[stop-imf] Africa should not pay its debts - Jeffrey Sachs

2004-07-14 Thread Charles Brown
I happened upon this in the LBO-archive. Carl Remick asked a similar
question about Jeffrey Sachs in 1998.

CB

^^

Has Jeffrey Sachs changed his tune...

Charles Brown CharlesB at CNCL.ci.detroit.mi.us
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Sounds like post-neo-neo-classical neo-keynesian
globalism.

Charles Brown

 Carl Remick cremick at rlmnet.com
http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk  09/15 9:31 AM 
...or am I just tone deaf?  Just read a piece of his in the current
Economist (9/12) Making It Work, where he emerges as a nemesis of the
whole West-o-centric, top-down, model of global economic development.
He says that a G16 (including eight LDC members) should be substituted
for the G8, that there should be massive cancellation of external debt
in the poorest nations and that developmental aid should shift from
short-term loans to outright grants.  He says it should be recognized
that the IMF/World Bank have no political legitimacy in the developing
world, e.g.: A G16 summit should take up fundamental reform of the
international assistance process itself.  The aim should be to restore
legitimacy to local politics, and abandon the misguided belief that the
IMF and World Bank can micro-manage the process of economic reform.

To be sure, he also says: Developing countries are not trying to
overturn Washington's vision of global capitalism, but rather to become
productive players in it -- and that's what he want to help.
Nonetheless, Sachs seems to be more fundamentally critical of central
institutions of global capitalism than I had been aware.  I'm confused.
When The Wall Came Down, Sachs struck me as the embodiment of Western
arrogance in his meddlesome, market-oriented prescriptions for Russian
reform.  When did he become such a bleeding heart?

Carl Remick




by Perelman, Michael


I mentioned a couple days ago how much Jeffrey Sachs has moved to the
left.  Chris's message is further confirmation.  As I said before, he
has also been very strong on Haiti.  Perhaps Paul A. has something to
add about the relationship between Sachs and the United Nations.


Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898

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Re: Fw: [stop-imf] Africa should not pay its debts - Jeffrey Sachs

2004-07-11 Thread Daniel Davies
One of the interesting things about the whole imbroglio is that very, very
few African states have material debts to privately owned capital.  It's
almost all government-to-government debt or IMF debt apart from SA, Botswana
and a bit of trade finance (which IMO shouldn't really be analysed as debt
as it is self-liquidating working capital).

dd


Comment

Correct again . . . to suggest that my debt be suspended because I have
proven that I
cannot and will not pay it is hardly radical . . . which was my real point.
Africa really
does not have a debt problem . . .  the financial institutions - capital,
have a debt problem.


Re: Fw: [stop-imf] Africa should not pay its debts - Jeffrey Sachs

2004-07-10 Thread Daniel Davies
Sachs has always been basically a man of the left, and has been saying
sensible things about sovereign default fo longer than anyone else I can
remember (including me and Richard Portes).  Perhaps the whole Harvard
Institute thing should be viewed by revisionist historians as a brief
aberration in the career of a basically good bloke.

dd

-Original Message-
From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Perelman,
Michael
Sent: 09 July 2004 17:30
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fw: [stop-imf] Africa should not pay its debts - Jeffrey
Sachs


I mentioned a couple days ago how much Jeffrey Sachs has moved to the
left.  Chris's message is further confirmation.  As I said before, he
has also been very strong on Haiti.  Perhaps Paul A. has something to
add about the relationship between Sachs and the United Nations.


Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901


Re: Fw: [stop-imf] Africa should not pay its debts - Jeffrey Sachs

2004-07-10 Thread Waistline2



In a message dated 7/10/2004 12:27:28 PM Central Standard 
Time, 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sachs has 
always been basically a man of the left, and has been saying sensible things 
about sovereign default fo longer than anyone else I can remember (including me 
and Richard Portes). Perhaps the whole Harvard Institute thing should be 
viewed by revisionist historians as a brief aberration in the career of a 
basically good bloke. 

dd 



Comment 

There is some basic economic common sense involved in exchange 
and debt. As long as I owe the banks and financial institutions $50,000 and a 
house mortgage I have a problem . . . a debt problem. 

When the banks allow me to run my debt up to $1,000,000 - and 
I am making ever humanly possible effort to attain this goal ... they have the 
problem. $50K . . . my problem . . . $1m . . . the banks problem. And I 
have forbidden the wife from us ever discussing insurance to cover our debt. 


Africa cannot pay its debt and the Russians are stopping 
payments here and there. Putin is burning the midnight oil . . . and the shift 
is going to hit the fan. What is taking place is the first wave of political 
assertions of the real social revolution. Sorry if it does not conform to the 
text in ones head. 

Melvin P.



Re: Fw: [stop-imf] Africa should not pay its debts - Jeffrey Sachs

2004-07-10 Thread Carl Remick
From: Daniel Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sachs has always been basically a man of the left, and has been saying
sensible things about sovereign default fo longer than anyone else I can
remember (including me and Richard Portes).  Perhaps the whole Harvard
Institute thing should be viewed by revisionist historians as a brief
aberration in the career of a basically good bloke.
dd
Like Paul Krugman's honorarium from Enron?
Carl
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Re: Fw: [stop-imf] Africa should not pay its debts - Jeffrey Sachs

2004-07-10 Thread sartesian
Really?  That's quite an aberration-- participating in the dismantling of
the Russian Revolution, transforming  the remnants of socialized property
into private fortunes.   And now Sachs got religion?  Yeah right, him and
O'Neil.  Save us from the basically good blokes and we can handle the rest.



- Original Message -
From: Daniel Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Fw: [stop-imf] Africa should not pay its debts -
Jeffrey Sachs


 Sachs has always been basically a man of the left, and has been saying
 sensible things about sovereign default fo longer than anyone else I can
 remember (including me and Richard Portes).  Perhaps the whole Harvard
 Institute thing should be viewed by revisionist historians as a brief
 aberration in the career of a basically good bloke.

 dd


Re: Fw: [stop-imf] Africa should not pay its debts - Jeffrey Sachs

2004-07-10 Thread Carl Remick
From: sartesian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Really?  That's quite an aberration-- participating in the dismantling of
the Russian Revolution, transforming  the remnants of socialized property
into private fortunes.
Bingo.  As with, Apart from that, how did you enjoy the play, Mrs.
Lincoln?
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Re: Fw: [stop-imf] Africa should not pay its debts - Jeffrey Sachs

2004-07-10 Thread Waistline2




In a message dated 7/10/2004 1:11:33 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Really? That's quite an aberration-- participating in the 
  dismantling ofthe Russian Revolution, transforming the remnants of 
  socialized propertyinto private fortunes. And now Sachs got 
  religion? Yeah right, him andO'Neil. Save us from the 
  basically good blokes and we can handle the rest.


Comment

Correct again . . . to suggest that my debt be suspended 
because I have proven that I cannot and will not pay it is hardly radical . . . 
which was my real point. Africa really does not have a debt problem . . . 
the financial institutions - capital,have a debt problem. 

This "thing" about the absolute general law of capitalist 
accumulation is . . . interesting. We are facing perhaps the greatest 
polarization between wealth and poverty in human history as the absolute 
_expression_ of the absoluteness of capital accumulation . . . in America . . . 
not overseas or somewhere else and apparently this is not understood. 


The industrial reserve army of unemployed belongs to another 
period of history - when the industrial system is in ascendency and the 
population is being converted into modern proletarians. The population of 
America is not being converted into modern proletarians but facing an absolute 
reduction in real wages that has been taking place for a solid thirty years. 
They were already proletarians. 

Perhaps it will take another ten years or so to understand 
that we are dealing with a different set of factors generated as the absolute 
_expression_ of the absoluteness of capital accumulation in America . . . not 
overseas or somewhere else. Seems to me that two sets of factors obscure what 
should be obvious. Monetary policy as US dominated exchange and debt structure . 
. . the printing of worthless money and the low wage structure in areas like 
China that allows that labor embodied in their commodities to fall faster than 
the real wages of the American consumer. This is not to say . . . it is 
China's fault . . . but rather the absolute _expression_ of the absoluteness of 
capital accumulation. 

And of course the low wages of the workers in China do not 
appear in the pay envelop of the American workers. What the American workers get 
is Wal Mart while their wages drift to the bottom or towards zero and not away 
from zero. And yes . . . China is currently hitting the wall as the absolute 
_expression_ of the absoluteness of capital accumulation . . . not the scrabble 
for "natural resources" and population matters. 

Securing oil reserves will save no one . . . which is 
why Putin is burning the midnight oil. Nothing short of 
proletarian revolution in Russiapromises even a glimmer of hope no matter 
how many "gangster capitalists "Putin steps on. I simply enjoy seeing 
capitalists jailed under any pretext. Why we always 
have to be the only ones in jail . . . although I enjoy your jail house rap. 


Billionaires in Russia . . . China . . . America is of course 
the absolute _expression_ of the absoluteness of capital accumulation . . . while 
the soup kitchens grow in America, and theseare working families . . . not 
the industrial army of reserve of one hundred . . . no . . . fifty . 
. . years ago. 

Social revolution does not require our working class to be 
reduced to the level of the India peasant of the past. 

"What is taking place is the first wave of political 
assertions of the real social revolution," means the bourgeoisie response to 
debt. Liquidating debt means you have a chance to accumulate it again . . . as 
the absolute . . . .

Melvin P 


Fw: [stop-imf] Africa should not pay its debts - Jeffrey Sachs

2004-07-09 Thread Chris Burford
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 5:10 AM
Subject: [stop-imf] Africa should not pay its debts - Jeffrey Sachs


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3869081.stm

BBC News July 6, 2004

Africa 'should not pay its debts'

A special adviser to the United Nations secretary general Kofi Annan
has
said African countries should refuse to repay their foreign debts.

Mr Annan's economic adviser Jeffrey Sachs first called on developed
countries to cancel Africa's debts.

But failing that, he said Africa should ignore its $201bn (£109bn)
debt
burden.

Economic analysis, he said, had shown that it was impossible for
Africa to
achieve its development goal of halving poverty if it had to repay the
loans.

The time has come to end this charade, he said.

The debts are unaffordable. If they won't cancel the debts I would
suggest
obstruction; you do it yourselves.

'A serious response'

Africa should say: 'thank you very much but we need this money to
meet the
needs of children who are dying right now so we will put the debt
servicing
payments into urgent social investment in health, education, drinking
water,
control of aids and other needs,' he told the BBC's World Business
Report.


Mr Sachs insisted that such a response was serious and responsible,
providing that the money was used transparently and channelled only
into
urgent social needs.

And he denied that it would bar African countries from accessing money
from
the capital markets in the future.

They won't be able to access those markets anyway until the debt is
forgiven, he explained, adding that there is no reason why they
shouldn't
be able to borrow again provided the forgiveness was negotiated in a
cooperative manner.

Mr Sachs is special adviser to Kofi Annan on global anti-poverty
targets.

Reluctance He made his comments at a conference on the eve of a summit
of
the heads of state of the African Union in Ethiopia.

He called on the developed world to double aid to Africa to $120bn a
year in
order to meet commitments made in 1970.

There is some sympathy in some of the rich donor countries for the
idea of
debt cancellation.

The British Chancellor of the Exchequer or finance minister Gordon
Brown,
did float the idea before the recent summit of the G8 major powers in
the
United States, although there has been no decision and some creditor
countries do have a history of reluctance on debt relief issues.

But none would be likely to welcome a unilateral decision by the poor
countries themselves simply to stop paying their debts, which are owed
mainly to international organisations such as the World Bank and to
rich
country governments.

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Re: Fw: [stop-imf] Africa should not pay its debts - Jeffrey Sachs

2004-07-09 Thread Perelman, Michael
I mentioned a couple days ago how much Jeffrey Sachs has moved to the
left.  Chris's message is further confirmation.  As I said before, he
has also been very strong on Haiti.  Perhaps Paul A. has something to
add about the relationship between Sachs and the United Nations.


Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901



FW: May 20th URGENT Action to Stop Latest anti-Cuba Travel policy

2004-05-18 Thread Funke Jayson J
Title: FW: May 20th URGENT Action to Stop Latest anti-Cuba Travel policy






Dear Freedom to Travel Activists:

We need you now more than ever.  On Thursday, May 20th  over 100,000 US citizens will come together to protest the latest attacks against our rights to travel and  the threats to Cubas sovereignty.

Please join us by calling the White House, the Congress and OFAC!  

Thank you,

Ana Perez
Cuba Program Director
Global Exchange

CUBA TRAVEL CALL TO ACTION


MARAZUL TOGETHER WITH GLOBAL EXCHANGE AND MORE THAN 20 ORGANIZATIONS NATIONWIDE AND REPRESENTING MORE THAN 100,000 PRO-CUBA TRAVEL VOTERS MOBILIZE TO OPPOSE THE PRESIDENTS DEVASTATING BLOW AGAINST CUBA

President Bush is implementing a devastating strategy against Cuba that threatens to halt travel from US citizens and Cuban Americans to the island, cutting into much needed revenue for social programs; increases the diversion of millions of US tax dollars from Homeland Security to harass people who travel to Cuba, allocates millions more to undermine the Cuban government; and seeks to negatively influence international opinion about Cuba.  We have picked May 20th for our actions because President Bush will make a speech in Miami to rally support for this new policy.

We must challenge these threats against our rights to travel and help put a stop to the Bush Administrations attacks against Cuba. PLEASE JOIN US IN A DAY OF ACTION TO HAVE OUR VOICES HEARD.

FLOOD THE WHITE HOUSE, CONGRESS, OFAC AND STATE DEPARTMENT WITH CALLS AND EMAILS.
1. Send an email to Kevin Whitaker, head of the Cuba Desk at the U.S. State Department [EMAIL PROTECTED].  You can also call him at 202-647-9273.

2. Send a message to the White House.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

3. Contact both the House:   http://www.house.gov/writerep/  and the Senate:  http://www.senate.gov/
Ask to be transferred to your Senator and Congress representative. If you know they are a member of the House or Senate Working Group on Cuba, ask them how you can help.  If they have not yet joined the Working Group, urge them to join

4. Call OFAC (Office of Foreign Assets Control) (201)622-2480 or Fax (202)622-0447.
5. You can also contact the Kerry Campaign and urge Senator Kerry to take a strong stand Against the Bush policy http://www.johnkerry.com/contact/contact.php

Key points to make:
Oppose the Cuba Committees recommendations and the Bush Administrations policy towards Cuba.
Ask for all travel restrictions to the island be lifted.
Demand the normalizations of relations with Cuba.
Ask for ending funding to enforce the travel ban and the embargo.
Demand that funding to undermine the Cuban government end.

Summary of the May 1, report by the Commission for Assistance to a Free Cuba:

Family Visits 

 Requiring that all Cuban American visiting their family apply for individual licenses from OFAC  (This means approximately 150,000 license applications a year.)
 Limiting family visits to one trip every three years under specific license, eliminating the General License category for family visits.
 Limiting the definition of family visits to those visiting grandparents, grandchildren, parents, siblings, spouses, and children only.
 Limiting the family visits to 14 days
 Limiting baggage to no more than 44 lbs; only exception for specifically licensed humanitarian donations.
 Reducing the amount from $167 to $50 per person per day for all family visits to Cuba


Academic  Other Licenses

 Academic educational licenses to be granted for one year only
 Limiting academic programs to semester long programs with shorter programs permitted only if such programs 'directly support US foreign policy goals
 Eliminating provision permitting $100 worth of Cuban goods to be wrought back (other than educational materials which are not affected)
 Eliminating the specific license provision for clinics and workshops

General License
 Eliminating the General License provision for amateur athletic teams, with all such travel requiring application for a specific license

Fully Hosted Travel
 Eliminating the 'concept' of fully-hosted travel and require that all Cuba travel-related transactions be licensed under general or specific license regardless of who pays for it

Efforts to Influence International Opinion
 Supports the promotion of Cuba as country harboring international terrorists, committing espionage against the U.S. and other nations, inflicting human rights abuses, and undermining democratically elected governments in Latin America as part of a broader effort to discourage tourist travel and reinforce negative attention to Cuba.
 Funds and promotes international or third-country national conferences to disseminate information abroad about U.S. policies on transition planning efforts related to Cuba.
 Deters foreign investment in Cubas confiscated properties.  This is the land which Cuban-American ex-patriots left behind but still claim as their own though it was confiscated by a Communist Cuban government.



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Commemorate Rachel Corrie: Stop Caterpillar, End the Occupation

2004-03-16 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Today is the one year anniversary of the death of Rachel Corrie.
Please join a vigil in your city or fax, call, and/or email your
Representative in Congress and ask him/her to cosponsor the Rachel
Corrie Resolution (House Concurrent Resolution 111) -- click on
http://www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=83 for more
information.
--- Friday, March 19, 2004 ---

Commemorate Rachel Corrie: Stop Caterpillar, End the Occupation

A Vigil to Commemorate Rachel Corrie
Stop Caterpillar - End the Occupation!
Date  Time:
Friday, March 19, 2004, 5:30 PM - 6:30 PM
Location:
15th Ave.  High St., Columbus, Ohio
Join us on Friday, March 19, 2004 at 15th Ave.  High St., Columbus,
Ohio to commemorate Rachel Corrie, stop Caterpillar, and end the
occupation!
March 16, 2004 is the one year anniversary of the death of Rachel
Corrie.  Rachel was a 23 year-old U.S. peace activist who was killed
by an Israel Defense Forces bulldozer while trying to prevent
nonviolently the demolition of a Palestinian house in the Gaza Strip
on March 16, 2003.  (For more information on Rachel, please see
http://www.rachelcorrie.org.)
The March 19th vigil in Columbus, OH to commemorate Rachel Corrie is
organized in solidarity with more than 30 vigils and educational
events to mark the one-year anniversary of her death in 30 cities in
19 states plus the District of Columbia.  (Details for all of the
events can be found at http://endtheoccupation.org/calendar.php.)
The US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation will deliver to each
Member of the House of Representatives a petition signed by more than
210 organizations in at least 33 states plus the District of
Columbia.  The petition asks Congress to pass the Rachel Corrie
Resolution (H.Con.Res.111) calling for an independent U.S.
investigation into her death.  Endorsing organizations include United
for Peace and Justice, the country's largest coalition of peace and
justice organizations, and the United States Green Party.  The list
of endorsing organization can be found at
http://endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=320.
The City of Santa Cruz, California (population 55,633) proclaimed
March 16 to be Rachel Corrie Day.  According to Mayor Scott
Kennedy, Rachel Corrie was a nonviolent activist protesting the
destruction of civilians' homes by a military power with machinery
built in the United States pursuing a policy subsidized by the United
States.  It is a very sad commentary on the state of political
affairs in the United States, that our national government has done
virtually nothing to find out what happened and to insist that those
responsible for her death be held accountable.  Our vigil in
Columbus, OH is one of many efforts to change the state of political
affairs that Mayor Kennedy deplores.
Contact: Wendy Ake, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sponsors: Committee for Justice in Palestine, Women in Black
(Columbus, OH), Columbus Campaign for Arms Control, Student
International Forum
--
Yoshie
* Bring Them Home Now! http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
* Calendars of Events in Columbus:
http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/calendar.html,
http://www.freepress.org/calendar.php,  http://www.cpanews.org/
* Student International Forum: http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/
* Committee for Justice in Palestine: http://www.osudivest.org/
* Al-Awda-Ohio: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Al-Awda-Ohio
* Solidarity: http://www.solidarity-us.org/


NEEDLESS DELAY: Stop foot-dragging on access to morning-after pills

2004-02-17 Thread Diane Monaco
Houston Chronicle

Feb. 16, 2004, 2:53PM

NEEDLESS DELAY
Stop foot-dragging on access to morning-after pills

It was a mistake for the Food and Drug Administration to put off
approval for over-the-counter sales of emergency contraceptives. Not to
be confused with the controversial abortion pill RU-486, morning-after
pills prevent rather than cause abortion.

Except for appeasing foes of abortion, who should welcome morning-after
pills, there is little reason to further delay convenient access to
this important medication for women.

The FDA is under intense political pressure to maintain prescription
status for brand-name emergency contraceptives Plan B and Preven. The
agency was set to decide whether to allow over-the-counter sales, but
that decision now has been pushed back to May, even though an advisory
panel in December overwhelmingly recommended making morning-after pills
more widely available as a safe way to reduce unwanted pregnancies and
hundreds of thousands of abortions.

Emergency contraceptives have been proved safe and effective at
preventing pregnancy over decades of use by women in the United States
and in countries where it is available in drugstores. The drug can
serve as backup birth control in the event another contraceptive fails
or be used after unprotected sex.

Store sales of morning-after pills would help rape victims who are
unwilling to seek immediate medical treatment skirt pregnancy and avoid
the risk of having to make a painful abortion decision.

This medication must be taken within 120 hours of intercourse and is
most effective when taken as quickly as possible after unprotected sex.
Finding a doctor to write a prescription in time can be difficult for
many women. Offering easier access to emergency contraception will help
make every child a wanted child.


Re: [ftaa] Send a free fax TODAY to Stop Miami Parade andDemo Ordinance

2003-11-12 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message -
From: Sara Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Stop Miami Parade and Demo Ordinance --Protect Free Speech During FTAA
 Ministerial!

 This Thursday, November 13, the Miami City Commission will vote on an
ordinance to change current regulations that govern parades,
demonstrations, rallies and assemblies with the purpose of stifling the
voices of the thousands of people - students, union members, activists,
farmers and many other individuals - from around the Americas and the
world who will be coming to South Florida to engage in peaceful,
permitted protests at the Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA)
ministerial to be held next week in  Miami.

 An earlier version of the ordinance was thwarted by strong public
opposition.  While some of the most outrageous provisions have been
eliminated since the original ordinance was first introduced, serious
restrictions on First Amendment rights remain.  The ordinance interferes
with people's constitutionally guaranteed rights of association and
expression by providing extremely broad, but vague definitions of
public assembly and parade and then subjecting such gatherings to an
array of new prohibitions. The end result: if the ordinance is passed,
police will have enormous discretion in their application of the law,
which will give them free reign to discriminate against those who are
visibly voicing their opposition to the FTAA.

 The undemocratic nature of this ordinance is in keeping with the
undemocratic nature of the FTAA itself. Under the rules that would be
imposed by the FTAA, decision-making power on economic, social and
cultural policies, as well as national development plans will be
transferred to transnational corporations and investors and away from
local communities.

 Given that the FTAA Ministerial is almost upon us, it's urgent that
concerned citizens all over the country immediately contact Miami city
officials to voice their opposition to this unconstitutional measure.

Click here to send a free fax to Miami Mayor Manuel A. Diaz and
Commission Chair Johnny L. Winton:

http://www.citizen.org/fax/background.cfm?ID=239source=25


Urgent Appeal from Berkeley Stop the War Coalition

2003-10-22 Thread Michael Hoover
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 03:08:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Adam Turl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fw: URGENT APPEAL FROM THE BERKELEY STOP THE WAR COALITION
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

* please forward widely *

Dear friends:

The University of California has found three students
- Rachel Odes, Snehal Shingavi, and Michael Smith -
guilty of participating in an illegal assembly and
refusing to cooperate with university officials for
their involvement in the anti-war sit-in that took
place in Sproul Hall on March 20, 2003.  Not only does
this mark an attack on anti-war protesters and people
of conscience throughout the country, the entire
process from start to finish has been riddled with
unfairness and makes a mockery of anything resembling
justice.

The problems with the sham of a hearing are almost too
many to list: the university refused to have an open
trial (until we showed up with forty protesters); the
university refused to give students ample time to
prepare a defense; one of the three students wasn't
even served with a letter telling her to appear at the
hearing; the students were unable to gather witnesses
in time for the hearing (some of them are out of the
country and a few have graduated); the university did
not make all of their evidence available to our
advocate; the university has singled out three
protesters from over 400 who participated in the
sit-in and the 119 who were arrested that day for
selective prosecution; the university selected an all
male hearing panel to adjudicate the hearing; and the
students' request for a continuance was ignored.

Instead of being a party to this kangaroo court,
students walked out of the hearings in protest and
demanded that the university at least consider giving
them more time to prepare.  The university refused.

Other than the blatant disregard for procedure, there
are two things that make this decision by UC Berkeley
outrageous.

First, that UC Berkeley is the only university in the
nation (to our knowledge) that is prosecuting students
for protesting the war the day after the bombing
began, despite the fact that protests happened on
scores of campuses throughout the US..

Second, that student protesters were right about every
aspect of the war.  There are no weapons of mass
destruction.  There is no proven threat of attack from
Iraq.  Civilian and military casualties continue to
mount and the US continues to spend exorbitant sums to
maintain a military presence in Iraq - yet it fails to
turn on the water or electricity.  The attacks on
civil liberties continue to mount.  Fees for students
at UC Berkeley and dozens of campuses continue to
rise.

We will be sentenced in two weeks, on October 28th,
2003.  We intend to protest this decision on that date
and will send out information about this as soon as we
can.

In the meantime, please take a few moments and write
to the  Chancellor and the Student Judicial Affairs
Office (addresses and phone information below) and
tell them that you believe that this decision is
unwarranted and unjust. Especially at Berkeley, where
there are memorials to Free Speech movement of the
1960s all over campus (the Mario Savio steps and the
Free Speech Movement Café), these kinds of attacks on
free speech and civil disobedience are not only an
attempt to roll-back the activist gains won on this
campus, but also in defiance of the university's
mission to promote free speech and debate.

We have included some talking points below that you
may want to include in your conversation or
correspondence with the  administration at UC
Berkeley.  Please do email us at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with any correspondence
that you send so that we can keep a record of the
letters that the administration receives.

Also, please sign our online petition at
http://www.petitiononline.com/stopwars/petition.html 

We need your help.  Please lend your support to
anti-war student activists and activists who are
fighting for social justice by letting the
administration know that their actions are not
supported by members of the community, students,
alumni, faculty, and staff.

Sincerely,
Berkeley Stop the War Coalition
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Please contact:

Chancellor Robert Berdahl

EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
MAIL: 200 California Hall #1500
Berkeley, CA 94720-1500
TEL: (510) 642-7464
FAX: (510) 643-5499

Assistant Chancellor John Cummins
EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
MAIL: Office of the Chancellor
200 California Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720-1500
TEL: (510) 642-7516
FAX: (510) 643-5499

Student Judicial Affairs Officer Neal Rajmaira
EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
326 Sproul Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
TEL:(510) 643-9069
FAX:(510) 643-3133

TALKING POINTS
1) Students should not face charges or disciplinary
actions for participating in non-violent civil
disobedience.
2) Activists should be allowed, freely, to speak and
protest on campus without harassment from the
University or its officers.
3) Any attempt to charge protesters for peaceful
protest represents an attack on free speech.
4

Re: Urgent Appeal from Berkeley Stop the War Coalition

2003-10-22 Thread andie nachgeborenen
My letter:

22 October 2003

Dear Sirs,

I am writing as an attorney and a citizen in
connection with the matters of Rachel Odes, Snehal
Shingavi, and Michael Smith, whom the University of
California has convicted before a disciplinary
committee for action relating to their involvement in
nonviolence civil disobedience protesting the war on
Iraq. The defendants sat in at Sproul Hall at Berkeley
on March 20, 2003, and have been convicted of
participating in an illegal assembly and refusing to
cooperate with university officials.

It is bitterly ironic that Berkeley, home of the Free
Speech movement, should find itself once more in the
position of persecuting free speech and nonviolent
political protest. Peaceful civil disobedience is, or
ought to be, an honored tradition in this country,
since the days of Martin Luther King and indeed the
Berkeley Fre Speech movement. It is irrelevant that
the students were right to protest an illegal war,
irrelevant that they were right in retrospect that the
war was based on lies. Even looking forward, they were
acting as responsible citizens, indeed as persons
willing to take the consequences of their actions --
in this instance, an arrest and fine for trespass.

The university's additional prosecution is meant to
have a chilling effect on free speech and politicala
ctivity that is disturbing in light of current
tendencies by public officials to stifle speech -- for
example, the threat by Ohio State University officials
last year to expel students who legally turned their
back on President Buas as a commencement speaker. The
universities are sipposed to stand as a  bulwark
between the scholarly community, including the
students, and the Ashcrofts and Rumsfelds. This action
does not promote those ends or fulfill that purpose.

My information indicates, moreover, that there were
grave due process problems with the University
prosecution -- refusal to have an open
trial, refusal to to give students ample time to
prepare a defense, failure to serve one student with
notice of the complaint, refusal to share evidence
with the defense, and selective prosecution. The
University is a public institution, and counsel must
have advisedit that ordinary norms of procedural due
process apply.

I encourage the University to stand for free speech,
civil liberties, and due process; ideally, to vacate
the conviction and drop the prosecution, at the
minimum to offer a proper hearing to those charged.

Sincerely,

Justin Schwartz, Esq.
Jones Day* (Chicago)
77 W. Wacker Drive
Chicago, IL
JD '98 (Ohio State*)
PhD '89 (Michigan*)


* For identification purposes only

--- Michael Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 03:08:58 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Adam Turl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Fw: URGENT APPEAL FROM THE BERKELEY STOP
 THE WAR COALITION
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 * please forward widely *
 
 Dear friends:
 
 The University of California has found three
 students
 - Rachel Odes, Snehal Shingavi, and Michael Smith -
 guilty of participating in an illegal assembly and
 refusing to cooperate with university officials for
 their involvement in the anti-war sit-in that took
 place in Sproul Hall on March 20, 2003.  Not only
 does
 this mark an attack on anti-war protesters and
 people
 of conscience throughout the country, the entire
 process from start to finish has been riddled with
 unfairness and makes a mockery of anything
 resembling
 justice.
 
 The problems with the sham of a hearing are almost
 too
 many to list: the university refused to have an
 open
 trial (until we showed up with forty protesters);
 the
 university refused to give students ample time to
 prepare a defense; one of the three students wasn't
 even served with a letter telling her to appear at
 the
 hearing; the students were unable to gather
 witnesses
 in time for the hearing (some of them are out of
 the
 country and a few have graduated); the university
 did
 not make all of their evidence available to our
 advocate; the university has singled out three
 protesters from over 400 who participated in the
 sit-in and the 119 who were arrested that day for
 selective prosecution; the university selected an
 all
 male hearing panel to adjudicate the hearing; and
 the
 students' request for a continuance was ignored.
 
 Instead of being a party to this kangaroo court,
 students walked out of the hearings in protest and
 demanded that the university at least consider
 giving
 them more time to prepare.  The university refused.
 
 Other than the blatant disregard for procedure,
 there
 are two things that make this decision by UC
 Berkeley
 outrageous.
 
 First, that UC Berkeley is the only university in
 the
 nation (to our knowledge) that is prosecuting
 students
 for protesting the war the day after the bombing
 began, despite the fact that protests happened on
 scores of campuses throughout the US..
 
 Second, that student protesters were right about
 every
 aspect of the war

Re: Fiji -stop and go - (Reality check during my last trip there)

2003-06-30 Thread Grant Lee
Aldo,

The following paper on Fiji may be of interest to you:

Scott MacWilliam, 2002, Poverty, corruption  governance in Fiji
http://peb.anu.edu.au/pdf/PEB17-1macwilliam.pdf

regards,

Grant.


Fiji -stop and go - (Reality check during my last trip there)

2003-06-29 Thread Aldo Matteucci
Fiji: Stop Or Go?

As the plane comes in from the Pacific to land in Nadi, on the north-
western tip of the main Fiji island, the whitcap-spreckled blue of the
ocean yields to the sinuous white line of the breakers on the reef. The
shallows are green or slate coloured, with brownish pockmarks or darker
stripes tapering towards the shoreline. The sandy coconut-tree garnered
beach is soon replaced by sugar cane. Cane everywhere – in the plains and
on the maze of volcanic hillocks that make out the landscape. The farms
are scattered. In the distance, lave cliffs and jagged crests, losing
themselves in the clouds.

About 6000 years ago people left southern China for Taiwan, the
Philippines and, skirting Papua New Guinea, sailed headlong into the
Pacific to settle Polynesia’s islands - Fiji, Tahiti, Easter Island,
Hawi’i, and finally New Zealand. The navigational skills used for this
achievement were unrivalled until Western man entered the Pacific in the
16th century.

Once avoided as the Cannibal Islands, Fiji was first visited commercially
for its sandalwood and bêche-de-mer. Guns and germs decimated of the
population. Commerce and religion then took tentative hold. 1875 he was
forced into a Cession to the British Empire. Indentured labour first from
Melanesia and then from India was brought over to work on sugar cane
plantations. After WWI plantations were abandoned for smallholder cane
production on land leased from the indigenous population. Thus a large
Indo-Fijian minority emerged on the island.

Independence came in 1970.The first constitution divided parties along
racial lines. When the Labour Party (mainly Indian) achieved majority in
1987, it was toppled by a military coup. The 1997 constitution does away
with racial separation. Though it provides for a ‘government of national
unity’ this does not resolve the underlying tensions. A second coup took
place in 1999. The current PM has refused to form such a government,
citing irreconcilable differences. The Supreme Court is to find on the
legality of this exclusion.

Traditional political power structures have been maintained (the Council
of Chiefs). As the economy grows, the power conflicts within clans, among
clans in the same region, among the islands etc. increase. Decisions are
postponed and corruption is rampant, partially also because the smallness
of the island does not allow for competition to emerge.

850’000 people, on 18’000 km2 of mainly volcanic islands and US$ 7’8000
income per capita (at PPP). Primary education is general, and health is
considered good. Out-migration, particularly among the better educated,
is strong - even though the impact is somewhat lessened by remittances.
Indians and Chinese are still moving in.

The Fijian economy is roughly as follows:
•   Sugar cane, on which the livelihood of c.a 200’000 people depends
directly or indirectly. No longer competitive with mechanised sugar cane,
the industry relies on the EU, which buys sugar at three times the world
market price (Cotonou Agreement) - a practice which is not WTO-
compatible. Also, the sugar mills need replacing. Insecurity of land
tenure has created tensions, as well as lowering of the product quality.
Unless all of these issues are resolved, the industry will self-destruct
after 2007.
•   Smallholder and subsistence agriculture
•   Fisheries (mainly by third country vessels) earn 10% of value of
fees.
•   Subsurface gold mining;
•   Mahogany (40’000 ha).
•   Manufacturing (textile – 18’000 workers altogether; food
processing, copra).
•   Tourism – potentially a 600 million US$ industry (but c.a ½ would
go to the airlines), if 300 rooms @ year are added to the existing 5’000.
Three models are emerging: (a) ‘plantation’ style in the outer islands;
(b) enclaves along the coast; (c) scattered lower cost (back-packer)
tourism. Employment effects are low (compared to the investment): 1-2
staff per room, at wages of 10-12 US$ per day.
•   Movie production.

Fiji is a mix of decadence and development without transparence. Its
situation is economically and socially precarious. Political stability is
weak, corruption and poor governance prevalent. Three models of evolution
are conceivable:

(1) ‘French’ model of integration (French Polynesia). A federative
structure including Australia and New Zealand could provide the engine
for development and stability (and orderly out-migration) at the price of
abandoning political and economic independence.

(2) ‘Neo-colonial’ model, where the forms of independence are
maintained, but the regional powers (AUS, NZ) would have and enforce
their say – yet with limited responsibilities.

(3) Muddle through, with the ongoing risk of a political involution
taking hold (as in other island states in the region), eventually leading
to ‘failed states’.

Given the size of the society and economy, a ‘self-reliant’ development
seems to me unrealistic. Stop or go? Fiji faces the deadline of 2007. If
its

how to stop the USA

2003-06-09 Thread Ian Murray
http://www.outlookindia.com
Jun 09, 2003
Opinion
How To Stop America

We must become the Chartists and the Suffragettes of the 21st Century.
They understood that to change the world you must propose as well as
oppose.

GEORGE MONBIOT

Presidents Roosevelt and Truman were smart operators. They knew that the
hegemony of the United States could not be sustained without the active
compliance of other nations. So they set out, before and after the end of
the Second World War, to design a global political system which permitted
the other powers to believe that they were part of the governing project.

When Franklin Roosevelt negotiated the charter of the United Nations, he
demanded that the United States should have the power to block any
decisions the UN sought to make. But he also permitted the other victors
of the war and their foremost allies - the Soviet Union, the United
Kingdom, China and France - to wield the same veto.

After Harry Dexter White, Roosevelt's negotiator at the Bretton Woods
talks in 1944, had imposed on the world two bodies, the International
Monetary Fund and the World Bank, whose underlying purpose was to sustain
the financial power of US, he appeased the other powerful nations by
granting them a substantial share of the vote. Rather less publicly, he
ensured that both institutions required an 85% majority to pass major
resolutions, and that the US would cast 17% of the votes in the IMF, and
18% of the votes in the World Bank.

Harry Truman struggled to install a global trade regime which would permit
the continuing growth of the US economy without alienating the nations
upon whom that growth depended. He tried to persuade Congress to approve
an International Trade Organisation which allowed less developed countries
to protect their infant industries, transferred technology to poorer
nations and prevented corporations from forming global monopolies.
Congress blocked it. But, until the crisis in Seattle in 1999, , when the
poor nations were forced to reject the outrageous proposals inserted by
the US and the European Union, successive administrations seemed to
understand the need to allow the leaders of other countries at least to
pretend to their people that they were helping to set the global trade
rules.

The system designed in the 1940s, whose ultimate objective was to ensure
that the United States remained the pre-eminent global power, appeared,
until very recently, to be unchallengeable. There was no constitutional
means of restraining the US: it could veto any attempt to cancel its veto.
Yet this system was not sufficiently offensive to other powerful
governments to force them to confront it. They knew that there was less to
be lost by accepting their small share of power and supporting the status
quo than by upsetting it and bringing down the wrath of the superpower. It
seemed, until March 2003, that we were stuck with US hegemony.

But the men who govern the United States today are greedy. They cannot
understand why they should grant concessions to anyone. They want
unmediated global power, and they want it now. To obtain it, they are
prepared to destroy the institutions whose purpose was to sustain their
dominion. They have challenged the payments the United States must make to
the IMF and the World Bank. They have threatened the survival of the World
Trade Organisation, by imposing tariffs on steel and granting massive new
subsidies to corporate farmers. And, to prosecute a war whose overriding
purpose was to stamp their authority upon the world, they have crippled
the United Nations. Much has been written over the past few weeks about
how much smarter George Bush is than we permitted ourselves to believe.
But it is clear that his administration has none of the refined
understanding of the mechanics of power that the founders of the existing
world order possessed. In no respect has he made this more evident than in
his assault upon the United States' principal instrument of international
power: the Security Council.

By going to war without the council's authorisation, and against the
wishes of three of its permanent members and most of its temporary
members, Bush's administration appears to have ceased even to pretend to
play by the rules. As a result, the Security Council may have lost both
its residual authority and its power of restraint. This leaves the leaders
of other nations with just two options.

The first is to accept that the global security system has broken down and
that disputes between nations will in future be resolved by means of
bilateral diplomacy, backed by force of arms. This means, in other words,
direct global governance by the United States. The influence of its
allies - the collateral against which Tony Blair has mortgaged his
reputation - will be exposed as illusory. It will do precisely as it
pleases, however much this undermines foreign governments. These
governments will find this dispensation ever harder to sell to their own
people, especially

Kucinich: Stop

2003-04-02 Thread Dan Scanlan
Title: Kucinich: Stop


Kucinich Takes to The House
Floor To Call For An End to The War
 WASHINGTON - April 1 - Congressman Dennis
J. Kucinich (D-OH), who leads opposition to the War in Iraq within
the House, today, issued the following statement on the House
floor:

"Stop the war now. As Baghdad will be
encircled, this is the time to get the UN back in to inspect Baghdad
and the rest of Iraq for biological and chemical weapons. Our troops
should not have to be the ones who will find out, in combat, whether
Iraq has such weapons. Why put our troops at greater risk? We could
get the United Nations inspectors back in.

"Stop the war now. Before we send our troops
into house-to-house combat in Baghdad, a city of five million people.
Before we ask our troops to take up the burden of shooting innocent
civilians in the fog of war.

"Stop the war now. This war has been advanced
on lie upon lie. Iraq was not responsible for 9/11. Iraq was not
responsible for any role al-Qaeda may have had in 9/11. Iraq was not
responsible for the anthrax attacks on this country. Iraq did not
tried to acquire nuclear weapons technology from Niger. This war is
built on falsehood.

"Stop the war now. We are not defending
America in Iraq. Iraq did not attack this nation. Iraq has no ability
to attack this nation. Each innocent civilian casualty represents a
threat to America for years to come and will end up making our nation
less safe. The seventy-five billion dollar supplemental needs to be
challenged because each dime we spend on this war makes America less
safe. Only international cooperation will help us meet the challenge
of terrorism. After 9/11 all Americans remember we had the support
and the sympathy of the world. Every nation was ready to be of
assistance to the United States in meeting the challenge of
terrorism. And yet, with this war, we have squandered the sympathy of
the world. We have brought upon this nation the anger of the world.
We need the cooperation of the world, to find the terrorists before
they come to our shores.

"Stop this war now. Seventy-five billion
dollars more for war. Three-quarters of a trillion dollars for tax
cuts, but no money for veterans' benefits. Money for war. No money
for health care in America, but money for war. No money for social
security, but money for war. We have money to blow up bridges over
the Tigris and the Euphrates, but no money to build bridges in our
own cities. We have money to ruin the health of the Iraqi children,
but no money to repair the health of our own children and our
educational programs.

"Stop this war now. It is wrong. It is
illegal. It is unjust and it will come to no good for this
country.

"Stop this war now. Show our wisdom and our
humanity, to be able to stop it, to bring back the United Nations
into the process. Rescue this moment. Rescue this nation from a war
that is wrong, that is unjust, that is immoral.

"Stop this war now."

-- 
--
Drop Bush, Not Bombs!
--

During times of universal deceit, 
telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
act.

George Orwell

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Stop the Insanity

2003-03-17 Thread Moshe Pippik

Dick Chaney, George Bush's vice president says Iraq is so dangerous
because it not only seeks chemical, biological and nuclear weapons but
it could put those weapons of mass destruction into the hands of al-Qaeda.
He doesn't stop there with his MANUFACTURED REASONS FOR ATTACKING IRAQ.
The vice president claims that Iraq has been training al-Qaeda. Where is
the proof Mr. vice president Chaney?

Colin Powell's evidence to the Security Council wasn't proof, it was a
joke. All of his allegations (the allegations of this war administration)
have been disproved. They are lies. They have no basis in fact --- because
George Bush's evidence has been manufactured to justify attacking Iraq.
These lies are a pretence for war; they are a pretence, the result of
which will be a lot of murdered Iraqis. It is BLOOD FOR OIL, the blood of
Iraqis and the blood of Americans and Brits.

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Reverend Billy the Church of Stop Shopping

2002-12-27 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Reverend Billy  the Church of Stop Shopping: 
http://www.revbilly.com/  
http://stream.realimpact.org/rihurl.ram?file=webactive/demnow/dn20001122.rastart=51:20.1;.

*   Jill Lane, Reverend Billy: Preaching, Protest, and 
Postindustrial Flanerie, _TDR: The Drama Review_ 46.1 (Spring 2002): 
http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/the_drama_review/v046/46.1lane.pdf:

... How can artists address the devastating effects and casualties of 
the new global economy, when the representation of power is itself 
now nomadic, liquid, and on the move? CAE [Critical Art Ensemble] 
contends that rather than stage opposition, our only viable option is 
to create calculated disturbance in these networks of power. What 
role then can performance play as a site of such disturbance? Bill 
Talen's work as Reverend Billy offers one trenchant set of answers to 
those questions,revitalizing political street theatre as a 
sophisticated repertoire -- or arsenal -- of anticonsumerist theatre 
techniques. Indeed, Reverend Billy offers us a model of politicized 
theatre disturbance that follows, engages,and creatively speaks 
back to the multiplying sites of privatization that have colonized 
urban public culture. From his beginnings as a sidewalk preacher 
protesting the corporate redevelopment of Times Square in New York 
City, Reverend Billy has taken his theatrical activism to a range of 
sites, most of which are what he calls contested spaces: those 
urban sites that have been recently commodified, or newly condemned, 
to commercialization. In this vein, he has staged numerous shopping 
interventions in which he and fellow artists perform in commercial 
spaces themselves -- from the Disney Store to Starbucks -- in an 
effort to intervene in (disturb) the seamless corporate architecture 
and choreography of shopping, or to re-narrate them with memories 
of the lives they displace. Talen also regularly lends the Reverend 
to a range of staged political actions related to the destruction 
or gentrification of local urban spaces, and of the social memories 
which they house   *
--
Yoshie

* Calendar of Events in Columbus: 
http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/calendar.html
* Anti-War Activist Resources: http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/activist.html
* Student International Forum: http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/
* Committee for Justice in Palestine: http://www.osudivest.org/



The Campaign to Stop Funding Hate: Project Saffron Dollar

2002-11-30 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
THE CAMPAIGN TO STOP FUNDING HATE

Is US Corporate Philanthropy Funding Hate Groups In India?
The Campaign to Stop Funding Hate Announces Project Saffron Dollar

Are the charity dollars generously provided by American companies, 
including some of our leading corporate citizens of the high 
technology world, being used to fund violent, sectarian groups in 
India? The Campaign to Stop Funding Hate (SFH) announces the launch 
of Project Saffron Dollar to bring an end to the electronic 
collection and transfer of funds from the US to organizations that 
spread sectarian hatred in India.

The Campaign to Stop Funding Hate (SFH) is a coalition of people -- 
professionals, students, workers, artists and intellectuals -- who 
share a common concern that sectarian hatreds in India are being 
fueled by money flowing from the United States. SFH is committed to 
an India that is open, tolerant and democratic. As the first step, 
SFH is determined to turn off the money flow from the United States 
to Hindutva hate groups responsible for recurring anti-minority 
violence in India.

IDRF: THE SANGH'S FUNDING BRANCH IN THE USA

Project Saffron Dollar aims to put an end to the collection of 
hundreds of thousands of dollars by the most 'respectable' of the US 
based funding arms of the violent and sectarian Hindutva movement -- 
the India Development and Relief Fund (IDRF). In its communications 
and on its website, the IDRF claims to be a non-sectarian, 
non-political charity that funds development and relief work in 
India. However, a report -- A Foreign Exchange of Hate -- 
co-published today by the South Asia Citizens Web (SACW) based in 
France, and Sabrang Communications, Bombay, India, documents in rich 
detail the fundamental connections between the IDRF and the Sangh 
Parivar (or simply the Sangh, the name commonly used for the network 
of RSS-linked organizations that collectively define the Hindutva 
movement). Amongst other documents, the SACW/Sabrang report examines 
a tax document filed by IDRF (at its inception in 1989) with the 
Internal Revenue Service (IRS) of the US Federal Government. The 
report offers the following:

[F]orm 1023, duly filled by IDRF executives when it was created in 
1989, identifies nine organizations as a representative sample of the 
types of organizations IDRF has been set up to support in IndiaŠ All 
nine are clearly marked Sangh organizations.

The report concludes that the fact of money being sent to 
organizations linked to the RSS is not a 'mere' incidental to IDRF's 
larger operations, but rather that raising funds for the Sangh 
Parivar is, and continues to be, the primary reason for the existence 
of IDRF in the US.

It is critical to underscore that IDRF's claim to being non-sectarian 
is entirely misleading. The SACW/Sabrang report indicates that a 
whopping 82% of the funds disbursed at the discretion of IDRF go to 
Sangh organizations. Of the remaining, the bulk goes to sectarian 
Hindu charities that may or may not have a direct Sangh affiliation. 
Less than five percent of their funds go to agencies that do not have 
a distinct Hindu-religious identification. Examining the IDRF fund 
disbursement from a 'activity-funded' viewpoint, the SACW/Sabrang 
report documents that nearly 70% of the monies are used for 
hinduization/tribal/education work, largely with a view of 
spreading Hindutva ideology amongst Adivasi (tribal) communities. 
Less than 20% of the total sent by IDRF is used in what are commonly 
understood as 'development and relief' activities. However, the 
report also concludes that the 15% funds that the IDRF disbursed for 
relief must also be seen as sectarian funds because of the 
sectarian basis of how relief work is carried out by the 
organizations that IDRF funds.

DOLLARS OF DECEPTION: IDRF FUND RAISING TECHNIQUES

A substantial proportion of IDRF's fund-raising is done through 
electronic means:

* money transfer portals such as PayPal;
* company foundations and their electronic portals such as Cisco Foundation;
* other charity portals such as Givingstation.org; and
* credit card commissions through a NSC/MBNA Bank issued IDRF Master Card.

SFH research indicates that in excess of half a million dollars may 
be going every year into the hate-lined coffers of IDRF through such 
transfers. As of 10AM PST (USA), November 19 2002, petitions seeking 
an immediate cessation of the transfer of funds to IDRF have been 
dispatched along with comprehensive back-up documentation, including 
A Foreign Exchange of Hate report, to ten of the leading 
corporations, portals and money exchange facilities. The SFH petition 
urges these corporations to immediately disallow IDRF from using 
their facilities for direct or indirect fund-raising.

Many large US corporations such as CISCO, Sun, Oracle, HP and AOL 
Time Warner match employee contributions to US based non profits. 
Annual Giving programs normally happen once a year in late Fall -- 
timed to occur between

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Demonstration to Stop the WAR (Fri., Oct. 11)

2002-10-09 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

Please Distribute widely:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Columbus, Ohio 10/7/2002

DEMONSTRATION TO STOP WAR ON IRAQ

WHAT: On Friday October 11, 2002, Statewide coalition calls on all 
people of conscience to participate in a DEMONSTRATION to stop the 
war on Iraqi children.  American taxpayer dollars are being used to 
finance an unjust war.

WHEN: FRIDAY October 11, 2002 at 3:30 pm

WHERE: Federal Building
(located at the intersection of High and Spring) in downtown Columbus at:

200 N. High Street
Columbus, Ohio

CONTACT: Jad Humeidan, CAIR-Ohio, (614) 451-3232,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bring Your Families and Friends.

SPONSORS: Arab Americans of Central Ohio, Arab Student Association, 
Council on American-Islamic Relations -Ohio, Columbus Campaign for 
Arms Control, Islamic Law Student's Association, Islamic Society of 
Greater Columbus, Islamic Foundation of Central Ohio, Muslim Student 
Association, Progressive Peace Coalition, Student International 
Forum, United Muslim Association of Toledo

list is growing...

-- 
Yoshie

* Calendar of Events in Columbus: 
http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/calendar.html
* Anti-War Activist Resources: http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/activist.html
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Fwd: Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark Calls to UN to Stop US!

2002-09-23 Thread Sabri Oncu

This was sent to the PGA list by an old friend by the name of Bob
Everton.

Sabri

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The following letter by former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark
has been sent to all members of the UN Security Council, with
copies to the UN General Assembly.

Please circulate.

September 20, 2002
Secretary General Kofi Annan
United Nations New York, NY

Dear Secretary General Annan,

George Bush will invade Iraq unless restrained by the United
Nations. Other international organizations-- including the
European Union, the African Union, the OAS, the Arab League,
stalwart nations courageous enough to speak out against
superpower aggression, international peace movements, political
leadership, and public opinion within the United States--must do
their part for peace. If the United Nations, above all, fails to
oppose a U.S. invasion of Iraq, it will forfeit its honor,
integrity and raison d'être.

A military attack on Iraq is obviously criminal; completely
inconsistent with urgent needs of the Peoples of the United
Nations; unjustifiable on any legal or moral ground; irrational
in light of the known facts; out of proportion to other existing
threats of war and violence; and a dangerous adventure risking
continuing conflict throughout the region and far beyond for
years to come. The most careful analysis must be made as to why
the world is subjected to such threats of violence by its only
superpower, which could so safely and importantly lead us on the
road to peace, and how the UN can avoid the human tragedy of yet
another major assault on Iraq and the powerful stimulus for
retaliatory terrorism it would create.

1. President George Bush Came to Office Determined to Attack Iraq
and Change its Government.

George Bush is moving apace to make his war unstoppable and soon.
Having stated last Friday that he did not believe Iraq would
accept UN inspectors, he responded to Iraq's prompt,
unconditional acceptance by calling any reliance on it a false
hope and promising to attack Iraq alone if the UN does not act.
He is obsessed with the desire to wage war against Iraq and
install his surrogates to govern Iraq by force. Days after the
most bellicose address ever made before the United Nations--an
unprecedented assault on the Charter of the United Nations, the
rule of law and the quest for peace--the U.S. announced it was
changing its stated targets in Iraq over the past eleven years,
from retaliation for threats and attacks on U.S. aircraft which
were illegally invading Iraq's airspace on a daily basis. How
serious could those threats and attacks have been if no U.S.
aircraft was ever hit?

Yet hundreds of people were killed in Iraq by U.S. rockets and
bombs, and not just in the so called no fly zone, but in
Baghdad itself. Now the U.S. proclaims its intentions to destroy
major military facilities in Iraq in preparation for its
invasion, a clear promise of aggression now. Every day there are
threats and more propaganda is unleashed to overcome resistance
to George Bush's rush to war. The acceleration will continue
until the tanks roll, unless nonviolent persuasion prevails.

2. George Bush Is Leading the United States and Taking the UN and
All Nations Toward a Lawless World of Endless Wars.

George Bush in his War on Terrorism has asserted his right to
attack any country, organization, or people first, without
warning in his sole discretion. He and members of his
administration have proclaimed the old restraints that law sought
to impose on aggression by governments and repression of their
people, no longer consistent with national security. Terrorism is
such a danger,they say, that necessity compels the U.S. to strike
first to destroy the potential for terrorist acts from abroad and
to make arbitrary arrests, detentions, interrogations, controls
and treatment of people abroad and within the U.S. Law has become
the enemy of public safety. Necessity is the argument of
tyrants. Necessity never makes a good bargain.

Heinrich Himmler, who instructed the Nazi Gestapo Shoot first,
ask questions later, and I will protect you, is vindicated by
George Bush. Like the Germany described by Jorge Luis Borges in
Deutsches Requiem, George Bush has now proffered (the world)
violence and faith in the sword, as Nazi Germany did. And as
Borges wrote, it did not matter to faith in the sword that
Germany was defeated. What matters is that violence ... now
rules. Two generations of Germans have rejected that faith.
Their perseverance in the pursuit of peace will earn the respect
of succeeding generations everywhere.

The Peoples of the United Nations are threatened with the end of
international law and protection for human rights by George
Bush's war on terrorism and determination to invade Iraq.

Since George Bush proclaimed his war on terrorism, other
countries have claimed the right to strike first. India and
Pakistan brought the earth and their own people closer to nuclear
conflict than at any time since October 1962 as a direct

Stop Bush's 'Wag the Dog' Invasion of Iraq

2002-08-01 Thread Diane Monaco

[Please sign this petition at:
http://democrats.com/iraq
and forward]



Stop Bush's 'Wag the Dog' Invasion of Iraq

To: George W. Bush, Congress, and the Media

We, the undersigned, oppose the Bush Administration's plan to invade, conquer, and occupy Iraq.

Iraq will accept a resumption of UN weapons inspections if the US agrees not to invade. But George W. Bush refuses to accept new weapons inspections for reasons that are purely political:

1. Bush's poll ratings are falling quickly because of public outrage over corporate corruption scandals and the falling stock market, and so he needs another war to change the news headlines and boost his poll ratings. In other words, Bush is wagging the dog.

2. Bush's Republican Party is likely to lose control of Congress and key Governorships in the November elections, and Bush desperately needs to engineer a Republican victory. In other words, the war in Iraq is also Bush's October Surprise.

3. Bush's oil industry donors want to gain complete control of Iraq's large oil reserves - by stealing them. Their views were summed up by Senator Bob Smith (R-NH) on April 12, 2002, when he told a large group of Republicans: Why don't we just take [Iraq's] oil? Why buy it? Take it!

4. Bush's weapons industry donors want to profit from another war. This includes Bush's father, George H. W. Bush, and his father's closest aide, James Baker, who are investors in the Carlyle Group, one of the largest weapons manufacturers in the US. 

5. Bush wants to rewrite the history of his father's Presidency. During the Gulf War, President George H. W. Bush refused to invade Baghdad and overthrow Saddam Hussein because of the opposition of US allies and because the US was not prepared to occupy and rule Iraq.

6. Bush wants to demonstrate to the world that US power is supreme and unchallengeable. Bush views America as the modern-day Rome, which will rule the world through force. Bush does not believe in freedom and democracy, either around the world - or in the US.

The reasons for opposing a US invasion of Iraq are overwhelming:

1. 250,000 US troops could be deployed, risking tens of thousands of American deaths and widespread illness from toxic chemical releases. Tens of thousands of Gulf War veterans are still suffering from the unexplained Gulf War syndrome.

2. The Gulf War cost $61 billion ($80 billion in current dollars), of which $48 billion was paid by Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and Japan - but that still caused a US recession, even though the war ended in 3 days and we did not occupy Iraq. Since no other countries will pay for the US to conquer Iraq, US taxpayers will have to pay all of the costs, which will be much greater. That means all domestic programs will be even more deeply cut, the enormous Bush deficit will get much bigger, taxes will have to be raised to maintain reduced services, and the current recession will turn into a Depression.

3. US allies among Arab countries strongly oppose an invasion, and outrage among Arab citizens could result in the overthrow of several weak pro-US governments (especially Jordan and Egypt), which would be replaced by Taliban-style anti-American and anti-Israeli extremists.

4. The US imposed strict economic sanctions on Iraq after the Gulf War, which has resulted in the deaths of half a million innocent children. This is a massive violation of human rights, and it fosters the spread of
anti-American hatred among Arabs. 

5. Iraq has never attacked the U.S., and played no role in the September 11 attack. All propaganda efforts by right-wing officials like Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz to link Iraq to 9-11 have failed.

6. The US does not have the capability to occupy Iraq and run a democratic government. Even in Afghanistan, the US-imposed government has no control outside of Kabul, despite large numbers of US and other allied troops. This undemocratic government has been paralyzed by assassinations by rival warlords. Moreover, the heroin industry - which is so devastating to the US - has resumed production.

7. Scott Ritter, the former Marine who led extensive UN weapons inspections of Iraq, is nearly certain that Iraq does not possess chemical or biological weapons. Moreover, Iraq does not possess long-range missiles to deliver such weapons, and the US (or Israel) could easily destroy any such missiles through precision bombing - as Israel did when it destroyed a nuclear reactor under construction in Iraq.

When challenged about these issues, the Bush administration can only resort to the most absurd and outrageous justification for sending our children to their deaths - namely, Bush's credibility.

James R. Schlesinger, a member of Bush's Defense Policy Board, says: Given all we have said as a leading world power about the necessity of regime change in Iraq, means that our credibility would be badly damaged if that regime change did not take place.

Let's be clear: only Bush demanded a regime change in Iraq

Next stop, Vietnam?

2002-06-26 Thread Ulhas Joglekar

Business Standard

Tuesday, June 25, 2002

FOCUS

Next stop, Vietnam?

Rapid industrialisation, growing GDP, abundant natural resources - all these
make the country an attractive investment destination, says Jesudas Bell

Tree-lined streets, the peaceful Hoan Kiem lake around which old people
practiced their morning exercises, chatted or simply lazed, the smell of hot
soup cooking in roadside kitchens on a cold winter morning: that was the
Han-oi of 10 years ago. A city I loved as much for its feel of ancient
culture and art as for its hospitable people. Returning there after more
than a decade I had to look hard to find traces of the city I knew.
The street names were familiar but the crowds of bicycles have been replaced
by crowds of Honda mopeds and cheaper Chinese imports, the gently decaying
houses by soaring towers of concrete and glass and the roadside kitchens by
fancy restaurants offering everything from French and Italian cuisine to
Korean, Japanese and even vegetarian Indian food.
The quaint bazaars, where we, as foreigners, shopped for the odd delicacy
such as cheap caviar, have been replaced by private retailers selling more
flat screen TVs and electronic gadgets per square kilometre than in
Singapore or Hong Kong.
The scene is much the same down south in Ho Chi Minh City with traffic jams,
numerous container ships travelling up and down the Saigon river and
supermarkets, towering buildings and shopping malls everywhere. Mercedes
Benzes and BMWs vie with Japanese and Korean cars for room on the busy
roads.
Vietnam today is a country in a hurry striving to catch up with the good
life and is trying to eradicate poverty in all its forms in the next few
years. The country's leaders have set themselves the ambitious target of
making the country industrialised by 2020.
The IMF has given a good report card to the country. With $ 9 billion in
reserves, increasing private sector participation, average annual GDP growth
of 7 per cent in the last seven years and export growth of more than 20 per
cent annually, it is easy to see why the IMF is almost euphoric about
Vietnam's prospects.
With ample offshore reserves of natural gas and petroleum (ONGC is one of
the concession holders), hydroelectric potential, excellent anthracite as
well as other minerals such as bauxite, Vietnam is well-endowed with natural
resources. It is criss-crossed by several rivers, including the Mekong whose
delta region in the south has made Vietnam the world's second-largest rice
exporter. Its beautiful coastline offers both tourism potential.
After recovering from the war, Vietnam's population is now around 80 million
with a growth rate of 1.6 per cent annually. Adult literacy is around 94 per
cent and the country continues to make strides in increasing life
expectancy, reducing child mortality and fighting poverty. The country's
greatest potential - and challenge - lies in providing employment to the 1.4
million young people who join the labour force every year.
The biggest catalyst for change is its approach to private business: Vietnam
started the process of doi moi or renovation in 1986, moving away from
complete state control of the economy. The last few years have witnessed a
turnar-ound: between 1990 and 2000, the number of domestic private
enterprises grew from 110 to 35,000 and the number of foreign enterprises
from 108 to 2,228.
The share of the private sector in non-oil exports grew from 3 per cent to
52 per cent; the share of foreign direct investment (FDI) in industrial
output from 8.8 per cent to 34 per cent. To achieve this, the government
took several steps, including enacting the Enterprise Law in early 2000,
liberalising access to land and credit as well as a banking reform package.
While Vietnam continues to receive a high level of both multilateral and
bilateral assistance of around $ 1 billion a year in actual disbursements,
the country will need around $ 2 billion to 3 billion a year in FDI to keep
economic growth stable. This is in addition to the resources developed
locally for investment.
This April, Tran Xuan Gia, minister for planning and investment, announced
that the new foreign investment law, expected to be promulgated soon, will
have a series of additional relaxations in matters such as location, choice
of partners, form of investment and so on.
The recent conclusion of two major build-operate-transfer (BOT) projects for
the $ 154 million Thu Duc water supply (to be built by Lyonnaise des Eaux),
and the Phu My 3 combined cycle power plant (being built by a consortium
including BP, Siemens and Sembcorp) point the way to what may be an
increasingly attractive option: to turn over costly infrastructure projects
to private investors on a BOT basis.
Given its comfortable resource base and good fiscal management, Vietnam
would appear to be an exciting place for companies looking for investment
opportunities. It comes as no surprise that hot on the heels of other BOT
projects, Unocal has now declared

[SAAN] *NEW* Petition to Vajpayee and Musharraf to stop march toNuclear Holocaust

2002-06-05 Thread Diane Monaco

Please sign the petition and forward this link. The intention is to
send
this to the two, and also to the press demanding that they pay attention
to the
voices for peace and rapproachement. Also please forward this link on
all
lists.

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/ip2002/petition.html


To: Prime Minister AB Vajpayee and President Pervez
Musharraf

Despite extremely dire reports of potential nuclear war with casualties
in
the tens of millions, it appears that the entire subcontinent is being
led
towards a holocaust of immense proportions by the leadership of both
India
and Pakistan.

Even a limited nuclear exchange will result in the destruction of tens
of
millions of lives and most of northern India and Pakistan will
become
uninhabitable.

Neither the people of Pakistan nor the people of India gave the right
to
their leaders to destroy their lives, and their two nations. 5000 years
of
history for this? We say NO!

Both you leaders have been pandering to extremists, as has been
witnessed
in the BJP's role in Gujarat, and the ISI's role in Kashmir. Effectively,
we
the people of India and Pakistan are being force marched like sheep to
a
slaughter by the maniacal agendas of fanatical extremists.

We can no longer remain silent spectators to the actions and agendas
of
the proponents of this brutal anti-people mentality.

We the people of India and Pakistan, as well as peace loving citizens
of
the world, DEMAND that you immediately:


1) State unequivocally that this current march towards a holocaust
of
horrific proportions MUST be stopped IMMEDIATELY.

2) March to the negotiating table with full sincerity. The baggage
of
colonialism must not lead us into total destruction. The great
freedom
fighters of our common land, gave their lives for a dream yet
unfulfilled.
Must we do to ourselves something infinitely worse than what
colonization
did to us?

3) Recognize the common humanity of ALL people of the subcontinent,
regardless of religion, caste or gender, and their RIGHT TO LIVE, and
to
enjoy a life of peace and security.

4) Desist from bravado and war talk. The common people of India and
Pakistan can teach you, dear leaders, that greatness comes from
self-control
and not from self destructive rage; the great Bhakti and Sufi saints
taught
this as did the Buddha.

5) Acknowedge that your primary duty as leaders is to protect and
embrace
the welfare of ALL your citizens regardless of whatever religion
they
practice.


The People of India-Pakistan.

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stop US coup d'etat

2002-04-20 Thread Chris Burford
 organisations.
Their staff and directors will become vulnerable to removal
by a dissatisfied member state, as long as that member state
is sufficiently powerful, financially or otherwise. Bustani
has repeatedly refused to act on the instructions of the
United States in discrimination against other member states,
stating over and over that his employers are the integrity
of the Conference of States Parties. This has made him a
thorn in the side of the US State Department, which Bush and
his team are now determined to remove. The US has made
unsubstantiated allegations to justify its motion of
no-confidence, and has declined on every occasion to provide
the evidence, or even to conduct a formal inquiry. Nor has
it submitted any document to the Conference of States
Parties to support its request for a no-confidence motion.
Given the lack of substantive motives for Bustani's removal,
the United States has resorted to character assassination in
the press. And in order to ensure the success of its
campaign, the United States has threatened to withdraw its
funding of the organisation, which would leave the OPCW 22%
worse off, and effectively crippled.

The United Kingdom has, from the early days of the
Convention, been an exemplary member of the OPCW. As a
proven leader in Europe, it now has the power to rally the
rest of Europe and block the United States' vote of
no-confidence. By making its voice heard in Washington, the
United Kingdom and Europe would be keeping open a peaceful
and multilateral route to a resolution in Iraq. More
importantly, a defeat of the United States' motion would put
a stop to the further deterioration of the international
system of multilateral cooperation that has been built with
such care and commitment since the end of the Second World
War.

We urge you to take the lead at the Special Session of the
OPCW which opens on Sunday 21 April, and to ensure that
morality, good sense and international justice prevail.

Sincerely,

[Your Name]
[Your Address]
[Your Phone Number]



FROM THE GUARDIAN
Tuesday April 16, 2002
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4394862,00.html
-

Chemical coup d'etat
The US wants to depose the diplomat who could take away its
pretext for war with Iraq
George Monbiot


On Sunday, the US government will launch an international
coup. It has been planned for a month. It will be executed
quietly, and most of us won't know what is happening until
it's too late. It is seeking to overthrow 60 years of
multilateralism in favour of a global regime built on force.

The coup begins with its attempt, in five days' time, to
unseat the man in charge of ridding the world of chemical
weapons. If it succeeds, this will be the first time that
the head of a multilateral agency will have been deposed in
this manner. Every other international body will then become
vulnerable to attack. The coup will also shut down the
peaceful options for dealing with the chemical weapons Iraq
may possess, helping to ensure that war then becomes the
only means of destroying them.

The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons
(OPCW) enforces the chemical weapons convention. It inspects
labs and factories and arsenals and oversees the destruction
of the weapons they contain. Its director-general is a
workaholic Brazilian diplomat called Jose Bustani. He has,
arguably, done more in the past five years to promote world
peace than anyone else on earth. His inspectors have
overseen the destruction of 2 million chemical weapons and
two-thirds of the world's chemical weapon facilities. He has
so successfully cajoled reluctant nations that the number of
signatories to the convention has risen from 87 to 145 in
the past five years: the fastest growth rate of any
multilateral body in recent times.

In May 2000, as a tribute to his extraordinary record,
Bustani was re-elected unanimously by the member states for
a second five-year term, even though he had yet to complete
his first one. Last year Colin Powell wrote to him to thank
him for his very impressive work. But now everything has
changed. The man celebrated for his achievements has been
denounced as an enemy of the people.

In January, with no prior warning or explanation, the US
state department asked the Brazilian government to recall
him, on the grounds that it did not like his management
style. This request directly contravenes the chemical
weapons convention, which states the director-general ...
shall not seek or receive instructions from any government.
Brazil refused. In March the US government accused Bustani
of financial mismanagement, demoralisation of his staff,
bias and ill-considered initiatives. It warned that if
he wanted to avoid damage to his reputation, he must resign.

Again, the US was trampling the convention, which insists
that member states shall not seek to influence the staff.
He refused to go. On March 19 the US proposed a vote of no
confidence in Bustani. It lost. So it then did

Fw: [R-G] 03.04.2002 THE GRAND OIL PRICE TERRORISM CONSPIRACY - STOP!!! THE RUMORS!

2002-04-03 Thread michael pugliese


Message: 3 
From: IJA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: The people  anarchists and authorities world wide [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 16:24:54 +0200 
Organization: International Journal of Anarchism 
Subject: [R-G] 03.04.2002 THE GRAND OIL PRICE  TERRORISM CONSPIRACY
- STOP!!! THE RUMORS! 
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
From IJ@ 4(31) updated 03.04.2002 
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PRESS RELEASE AND NOTE FROM THE 
Anarchist International Embassy in Oslo 
http://www.anarchy.no/embassy.html=20 
 
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THE GRAND OIL PRICE  TERRORISM CONSPIRACY - STOP !!! THE RUMORS!!!

 
-=

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The rumors that some high ranking, mainly marxist Norwegians
and their = 
useful idiots, have given much aid-money to Arafat, so he could
= 
support the terrorists, to make trouble in the Mid East and thus
hike = 
the oil price (and tank-rates), must be seen as a 1st of April
joke and = 
nothing else. The Anarchy of Norway just doesn't play politics
so dirty, = 
although the oil-price of course have hiked now as usual when
there is = 
trouble in the Mid East, and the PLO-state of Arafat has gotten
= 
relatively much money in aid from Norway. These events should
not be = 
seen combined, and introducing a (false) conspiracy theory is
not = 
correct. There are also other reasons for a hike in the oil-price,
say, = 
the USA's talks vis-=E0-vis Saddam Hussein, and better economical
= 
conjunctures in general.=20 
 
02.04.2002. Although the Conference on terrorism and IJ@ yesterday
tried = 
to stop the rumors, they continue to grow. We must simply repeat
that = 
these growing rumors are not based on facts! The whole idea of
the so = 
called secret operation, code name Bongo from Congo where=20

 
1. the Yes to EU-bureaucrats in the Labor Party, some of them
having got = 
top jobs in Statoil without too much qualifications,=20 
 
2. the UN's peace envoy for the Middle East Terje Red Larsen
plus = 
Gro Harlem Brundtland and tops in the Royal Norwegian Foreign
Ministry, = 
UD;=20 
 
3. the leaders of the Red oil-workers unions, plus=20 
 
4. the coming bureaucrats of the Labor Party's Youth organization
AUF, = 
have a conspiracy with=20 
 
5. Y. Arafat and the PLO-State terrorists, to=20 
 
6. hike the oil-price, and share the profit through different
channels, = 
aid included, to make even more trouble in the Mid East and hike
the = 
oil-price even more, etc., in=20 
 
7. an oil-price  terrorism spiral, in a prolonged war with Israel,
also = 
including trade boycott etc. to make it real long, that's=20

 
8. just far out! Although=20 
 
9. the marxist influenced Norwegian media also write about a
long Mid = 
East war 02.04.2002, and thus contribute perhaps to even more
oil-price = 
hike, there are no reasons to believe that=20 
 
10. the Oil-price  Terrorism Conspiracy , code name Bongo
from = 
Congo, really exists.=20 
 
11.- 03.04.2002 the rumors are getting even wilder: A faction
of OPEC = 
with ramifications to rich muslims and bin-Laden's al-Qaeda,
some = 
factions in the UN and in CIA connected to some warprofit sharks
in USA, = 
are part of this Grand Conspiracy, and they also are behind the
= 
11.09.2001 events. 
 
12. IJ@ can not confirm that the rumors are rooted back to some
leftists = 
at Industrial Workers of the World, that earlier have made up
= 
smearstories and lies about the Anarchy of Norway and the International
= 
Workers of the World, or some rightist Americans , that think
UN is a = 
commie nest ruling the USA. Both groups have however traditionally
a = 
tendency to dream up large Conspiracies, and think economy is
the basis = 
- or the only thing that counts - to explain what is going on
in = 
society, and try to make up scapegoats. However to think Gro
Harlem = 
Brundtland, the other Labor Party bosses and the UD tops, etc.
are the = 
real spiders behind the Grand Conspiracy and the 11.09. 2001
attacks as = 
well as the Mid East trouble is far out. To make the Anarchy
of Norway = 
scapegoat for the 11.09 and Mid East trouble is not fair! 
 
NACO demands such nonsense rumors should be stopped at once!=20

 
However to stop further rumors, more restrictions on the aid-money
to = 
the PLO-State of Arafat should perhaps be introduced, NACO says:
It = 
must be certain not an =F8re of the Norwegian aid-money to
Palestine = 
goes to support the terrorists, directly or indirectly, to avoid
the = 
Anarchy of Norway gets a bad reputation internationally.=20 
 
Even 1st of April joke rumors may spread and be harmfull, if
there is = 
just a small fraction of possible truth in it. So all support
that = 
doesn't go directly to peaceful organizations of the Palestinian
people, = 
and 100% certain avoid their corrupt authorities plus terrorists,
and = 
other political measures that may make Norwegians be looked

STOP!!!

2002-03-24 Thread Michael Perelman

This sort of exchange has no business here.

On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 11:38:19AM -0800, michael pugliese wrote:
 
Hey, the Reds I like as friends and comrades are mostly Trotskyists.
 You like the friends of Uncle Joe. Stop calling me a race baitin',
 red-baitin' and I'll stop calling you a Stalinist.
   I hear, in person you are warm and friendly, to comrades you've
 known to decades, aND KNOW TO BE SOLID RADICALS, YET YOU CALL
 THEM ANTI-COMMUNISTS! 
 Michael, The Warm,  not the war-mongerer...;-)
 
 
 --- Original Message ---
 From: Charles Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 3/24/02 10:54:57 AM
 
 
 Steelworkers, California Nurses Launch New Union to Boost Organizing
 by michael pugliese
 22 March 2002 23:39 UTC  
 
 
 Charles: It's your compulsive recitation of people's red backgrounds
 that makes you look like a creep. Hey , maybe you aren't a creep
 and you just like to show off all this stuff you know. But it's
 a bit weird to go around announcing everybody's left pedigree
 so much, or at all, e.g. see what you say below.
 
 ^^^
 
 
I've known Giulana Milanese, an organizer for the CNA (met
 her after she left the CPUSA for the CofC/CCDS) for over a decade.
 Great organizer, wonderful person. Warm, smart, savvy. And she's
 never said I was a red-baiter. Hmm., wonder why? Plus, she works
 well with Michael Lighty, from DSA, another CNA staffer. As
 does
 Carl Bloice, from the CCDS, formerly in the CPUSA.
 Michael Pugliese
 
 
 
 

-- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Fwd: [stop-imf] Milwaukee Joins World Bank Bonds Boycott

2002-03-06 Thread Chris Burford


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WORLD BANK BONDS BOYCOTT CAMPAIGN / WISCONSIN FAIR TRADE CAMPAIGN

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE -- March 6, 2002

Contacts: Milwaukee -- Ald. Don Richards 414-286-2868, Frances Bartelt
414-559-9583; Washington -- Neil Watkins 202-393-6665


Milwaukee City Council Endorses Boycott of World Bank Bonds, Urges
Wisconsin Investment Board to Join

Council Votes 13-1 to Adopt Boycott; Joins San Francisco, Oakland in
Sending Message of Protest to World Bank


MILWAUKEE -- The Milwaukee city council voted 13-1 yesterday to endorse
the World Bank Bonds Boycott, and urged the State of Wisconsin
Investment Board, which currently holds $35 million in bonds issued by
the World Bank, to do the same.

With this resolution, we have begun to shed the light on what the World
Bank's policies of corporate globalization are doing not only around the
world but also in our community, said Milwaukee Alderman Don Richards,
the lead sponsor of the boycott resolution. Our resolution points out
that World Bank policies undermine international labor rights and
standards, under which business in the United States is conducted. We
are asking that the World Bank be scrutinized and fundamentally reformed
before any more Wisconsin State Investment funds be entrusted to it.

The Milwaukee vote comes in the context of the World Bank Bonds Boycott
campaign, a growing global initiative which is pressuring the World Bank
to make fundamental changes. The campaign is based on the fact that the
World Bank raises a majority of its operating funds by issuing bonds on
the private financial market. Since its launch by civil society groups
from more than 30 global South countries and the U.S. in April 2000, the
campaign has gotten more than four dozen institutional investors to
commit not to buy World Bank bonds, including San Francisco, Oakland, 10
investment firms with more than $16 billion in investments, and dozens
of religious institutions and labor unions.

Jim Carpenter, an economics instructor at Milwaukee Area Technical
College and member of the Wisconsin Fair Trade Campaign, which led the
9-month campaign to garner public support for the resolution, said, I
am not surprised that this resolution passed. Milwaukee is living proof
of failed policies of corporate globalization. Numerous students in my
economics class are displaced industrial workers who've seen their jobs
leave town because of policies promoted by the World Bank and so-called
free trade agreements.

We are taking the effort the expose the unjust policies of the World
Bank and IMF from the streets to the suites of institutional investors
with this campaign, said Neil Watkins, the campaign's coordinator at
Center for Economic Justice in Washington. We are thrilled that the
Milwaukee city council adopted the boycott but also note that this is
just the beginning, as we are expanding our work with local coalitions
in cities and among institutional investors across the country.

The World Bank Bonds Boycott calls on the World Bank Group to cancel
100% of debts owed to it by impoverished countries, stop destructive
'structural adjustment' and similar policies, and end all lending for
oil, gas, mining, and dam projects.
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RE: Re: Re: Help Stop Ohio's Anti-Choice Resolution

2002-02-25 Thread michael pugliese


   Anyone remember the Reproductive Rights National Network or
R2N2 as us vets from NAM called it then in the 80's? 
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Reproductive+Rights+National+Network%22btnG=Google+Searchhl=enie=utf-8oe=utf-8
Michael Pugliese

--- Original Message ---
From: Diane Monaco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2/24/02 5:22:27 PM


Rakesh wrote:

Diane, have you had a chance to read Rickie Lee Solinger's
criticism of 
framing the fight for abortion rights in terms of choice (there
was a 
favorable review in the NY TImes review of books a few weeks
ago).

Plus two excerpts from the amazon.com reviews:

 From Publishers Weekly; Feminists need a paradigm shift, argues
Solinger 
 (Wake Up Little Susie;, The Abortionist), away from the post-Roe
v. Wade 
 concept of choice and back to the '60s concept of rights,
based on 
 the approach of the civil rights movement, which argued that
all citizens 
 were entitled to vote, for instance, regardless of class status.


 From Booklist: Historian Solinger argues cogently that the
post-Roe v. 
 Wade decision to articulate the women's movement's goals in
terms of 
 choice, not rights, had fateful consequences for women
and for the 
 movement.

Rakesh, I apologize for not being able to get this post out
before you 
unsubbed...and I will certainly miss your posts.  But for what
it's worth, 
I have always felt uncomfortable with the movement away from
rights to 
choice during the 1980s.  But I'm sure it is no surprise that
this post 
Roe v. Wade shift during the 1980s occurred when the so-called

conservative feminists surfaced (or were created) to redefine
the 
issues. I just heard a Christina Hoff Sommers (author of Who
Stole 
Feminism?) lecture the other day where she said in virtually
the same 
breath that she is a feminist and women are no longer oppressed
in the 
US.  Hmmm?  As far as I know, the definition of feminism hasn't
changed: a 
movement that works toward achieving equal rights for women
and men.  But 
when I look at the demographic composition of upper agenda setting
elites, 
e.g., Congressional Committee chairs, I see a distinct absence
of women (or 
color).  Well, if relations are not oppressed along gender lines,
how would 
this oddity come about? What is the probability that this would
happen on 
its own?

Anyway, I think it was the anti-feminist sector that attempted
to steal 
feminism.  And I do agree with Solinger that it was a mistake
for 
feminists to move away from the rights argument.  But it's of
course not 
too late and NARAL stands ready to enter as the National
Abortion and 
Reproductive Rights Action League -- hey notice the rights
there!  Thanks 
for bringing this to our attention.

Best,
Diane







Re: Re: Help Stop Ohio's Anti-Choice Resolution

2002-02-24 Thread Diane Monaco

Rakesh wrote:

Diane, have you had a chance to read Rickie Lee Solinger's criticism of 
framing the fight for abortion rights in terms of choice (there was a 
favorable review in the NY TImes review of books a few weeks ago).

Plus two excerpts from the amazon.com reviews:

 From Publishers Weekly; Feminists need a paradigm shift, argues Solinger 
 (Wake Up Little Susie;, The Abortionist), away from the post-Roe v. Wade 
 concept of choice and back to the '60s concept of rights, based on 
 the approach of the civil rights movement, which argued that all citizens 
 were entitled to vote, for instance, regardless of class status.


 From Booklist: Historian Solinger argues cogently that the post-Roe v. 
 Wade decision to articulate the women's movement's goals in terms of 
 choice, not rights, had fateful consequences for women and for the 
 movement.

Rakesh, I apologize for not being able to get this post out before you 
unsubbed...and I will certainly miss your posts.  But for what it's worth, 
I have always felt uncomfortable with the movement away from rights to 
choice during the 1980s.  But I'm sure it is no surprise that this post 
Roe v. Wade shift during the 1980s occurred when the so-called 
conservative feminists surfaced (or were created) to redefine the 
issues. I just heard a Christina Hoff Sommers (author of Who Stole 
Feminism?) lecture the other day where she said in virtually the same 
breath that she is a feminist and women are no longer oppressed in the 
US.  Hmmm?  As far as I know, the definition of feminism hasn't changed: a 
movement that works toward achieving equal rights for women and men.  But 
when I look at the demographic composition of upper agenda setting elites, 
e.g., Congressional Committee chairs, I see a distinct absence of women (or 
color).  Well, if relations are not oppressed along gender lines, how would 
this oddity come about? What is the probability that this would happen on 
its own?

Anyway, I think it was the anti-feminist sector that attempted to steal 
feminism.  And I do agree with Solinger that it was a mistake for 
feminists to move away from the rights argument.  But it's of course not 
too late and NARAL stands ready to enter as the National Abortion and 
Reproductive Rights Action League -- hey notice the rights there!  Thanks 
for bringing this to our attention.

Best,
Diane





Help Stop Ohio's Anti-Choice Resolution

2002-02-23 Thread Diane Monaco

[Please forward to your pro-choice friends in Ohio]



Ironically, abortion opponents voice
safety arguments when their ultimate goal - outlawing abortion - is most
dangerous for women's health


Anti-choice organizations in Ohio have
introduced House Resolution
196 that would create a group to study the link between abortion 
and
breast cancer. This is part of a broader campaign to distort
medical
facts and frighten women into thinking that abortion causes breast
cancer. Breast cancer is a significant concern for all women.
More
research is urgently needed to provide information on how to 
prevent
and treat breast cancer. However, anti-abortion propaganda
asserting
that abortion causes breast cancer is unsupported by scientific
research and is dangerous for women's health. Click here to
email
the message below to your Ohio House Representative asking him or
her
to oppose this dangerous resolution
http://www.naralaction.org/index.asp?step=2item=1121.

The American Cancer Society, the National
Cancer Institute, the
National Breast Cancer Coalition, and the World Health Organization
have concluded that there is no proven link between abortion and
breast cancer.

Despite a lack of evidence associating
abortion with an increased
risk of breast cancer, anti-choice groups are distorting scientific
data and manipulating information to advance their political 
agenda.

NARAL Ohio believes that women must have
access to scientifically
accurate and unbiased information. By distorting information
and
instilling fear in women considerin abortion, such propaganda may
deter women from exercising their constitutionally protected right
to
choose a safe medical procedure. Ironically, abortion opponents
voice
safety arguments when their ultimate goal - outlawing abortion - is
most dangerous for women's health.

TAKE ACTION! Click here to email the
message below to your Ohio
House Representative asking them to oppose this dangerous 
resolution
http://www.naralaction.org/index.asp?step=2item=1121.
To get
involved and stop this legislation, contact NARAL Ohio at
614-221-2594 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

For more information on this issue, check
out NARAL's fact sheet:
http://www.naral.org/mediaresources/fact/misuse.html

Also check out an OPED publishe in the
Dayton Daily News on
February 3, 2002 entitled Aborting Women's Health,
http://www.activedayton.com/ddn/local/0203mary.html

***

Dear Representative,

I am writing to urge you to oppose House
Resolution 196, which would
create a group to study the link between abortion and breast 
cancer.
Breast cancer is an issue that I am greatly concerned about;
however,
this legislation has been introduced based on distorted facts and 
is
an attempt to instill fear in women.

The American Cancer Society, the National
Breast Cancer Coalition,
the National Cancer Institute, and the World Health Organization
have
all found that there is no proven link between abortion and breast
cancer. Our taxpayer money should not be wasted to fund a study 
that
has already been conducted by numerous reputable experts on the
issue
of breast cancer when there are other pressing needs in our state.

Unfortunately, anti-choice zealots are
using this sensitive issue as
part of a broader campaign to discourage women from exercising
their constitutionally protected right to choose. I believe that
any
research conducted under the guise of this agenda will be biased.
The women of Ohio deserve scientifically accurate information.
I
urge you to oppose this bill and focus on funding programs that are
not attached to a political agenda.

Thank you in advance for your time.

Sincerely,





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Re: Help Stop Ohio's Anti-Choice Resolution

2002-02-23 Thread Rakesh Bhandari

[Please forward to your pro-choice friends in Ohio]

Diane,
have you had a chance to read Rickie Lee Solinger's criticism of 
framing the fight for abortion rights in terms of choice (there was a 
favorable review in the NY TImes review of books a few weeks ago). I 
have only read Solinger's first book Wake Up Little Susie which is 
excellent and disturbing. Here are the amazon.com reviews of the last 
book.
Rakesh



Beggars and Choosers: How the Politics of Choice Shapes Adoption,
Abortion, and Welfare in the United States 
is a thorough feminist history of
public policy on abortion since Roe v. 
Wade, as well as a reconsideration of
recent political strategy. Rickie 
Solinger's third book on reproductive rights hinges on a crucial 
semantic shift in the
1970s from abortion rights to the 
softer, less direct choice and pro-choice, itself an attempt to 
shake off the
awkward pro-abortion tag. While rights 
are undeniable, Solinger asserts, choice is a market-driven concept.
Historical distinctions between women of 
color and white women, between poor and middle-class women, have been
reproduced and institutionalized in the 
era of choice, she continues, in part by defining some groups of 
women as
good choice makers, some as bad.

Solinger also advances a troubling 
economic thesis about adoption, defined roughly as the transfer of 
babies from
women of one social classification to 
women in a higher social classification or group. Bracing and 
well-researched,
Solinger's arguments should be considered 
by anyone working for women's and children's rights. --Regina Marler

From Publishers Weekly
Feminists need a paradigm shift, argues 
Solinger (Wake Up Little Susie;, The Abortionist), away from the 
post-Roe v.
Wade concept of choice and back to the 
'60s concept of rights, based on the approach of the civil rights 
movement,
which argued that all citizens were 
entitled to vote, for instance, regardless of class status. Choice 
evokes a marketplace
model of consumer freedom, she explains, 
while rights are privileges to which one is justly and irrevocably 
entitled as a
human being. The shift from the language 
of rights to that of choice was deliberate, aimed at reducing the 
federal welfare
tab and increasing the pool of adoptable 
children, which began to diminish after the early 1970s, Solinger 
argues. Once
the pill and legal abortion were 
available, poor women could be considered bad choice-makers if they 
kept having
babies they couldn't afford hardly the 
government's responsibility. (Never mind, Solinger observes, that 
many poor
women can't afford either option and might 
want children, just as middle-class women do.) Is this progress? No, 
Solinger
writes: women with inadequate 
resources... must... have the right to determine for themselves 
whether or not to be
mothers. With its crisp, jargon-free 
prose and copious footnotes, Solinger's reexamination of those twin 
bogeys the
Back Alley Butcher and the Welfare Queen 
is a provocative read for any modern feminist.

Copyright 2001 Cahners Business Information, Inc.

From Booklist
Historian Solinger argues cogently that 
the post-Roe v. Wade decision to articulate the women's movement's 
goals in
terms of choice, not rights, had 
fateful consequences for women and for the movement. Choice shifted 
abortion into
the marketplace, as one of many consumer 
choices, leaving women who were too poor to qualify as consumers at 
the
mercy of antiabortion politicians. Many 
activists, she observes, didn't think about the fact that pregnancy 
and childbearing
have historically and dramatically 
separated women by race and class in this country. Solinger traces 
that separation,
analyzing powerful stereotypes such as the 
back-alley butcher and the welfare queen and exploring the 
shifting
qualifications imposed on women as 
gestators, mothers, and decision makers. In particular, she considers 
the interaction
between advocates of choice and women 
who sought but did not always receive feminist support in their 

Stop This Brutality in Our Name

2002-01-24 Thread Charles Brown

   Stop This Brutality in Our Name

The Daily Mirror (London)
January 21, 2002

Editorial

Stop This Britality in Our Name
 
THIS is what is being done in the name of humanity, 
civilisation and the British people.

These prisoners are trapped in open cages, manacled hand and foot, 
brutalised, tortured and humiliated.
 
We are assured they are cruel, evil men, though not one has been 
charged, let alone convicted, of any offence.

Yet that does not justify the barbaric treatment they are receiving 
from US forces. Barbarism which is backed by our Government.
Tony Blair says he is standing shoulder to shoulder with President 
Bush. Not on our behalf, he isn't.

Mr Bush is close to achieving the impossible - losing the sympathy 
of the civilised world for what happened in New York and Washington 
on September 11.

Today he celebrates a year in office. He came to the presidency 
after a squalid vote-fix, yet in the aftermath of the 
destruction of the World Trade Center, he achieved 
enormous popularity among the American people.
 
The treatment of the prisoners in Cuba is no more than a sick 
attempt to appeal to the worst red-neck (sic) prejudices.
The pictures showing how these men are being abused were actually 
taken by an official US photographer.

The President and his head-banging associates are proud of them, 
proud of the cruelty inflicted in their name, proud of 
the vengeance they are taking.

What the American President does is his business. But what 
our Prime Minister does is ours.

Tony Blair has played a unique role in the war on terrorism. He 
persuaded Mr Bush to calm down in the days immediately after 
September 11.

He has done more to forge and hold together the great alliance of 
nations which is dedicated to ridding the world of terrorism.
Today he should be playing another leading role. He should be 
telling George W. Bush that the treatment of the prisoners in Cuba 
is not acceptable.

If Mr Blair thinks it is, he should have a word with his wife, 
Cherie. She is a leading human-rights lawyer.

His Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw, said last week that 
the prisoners should be treated humanely. They clearly are 
not. Once again, Mr Straw has failed to make the slightest 
impact.

Even if these men had been found guilty, they should not be treated 
like this. It is not doing anything to help the war on terrorism. 
These pictures will do the opposite - inflame the belief among some 
young Muslims that America is their enemy.

Anyway, who are these prisoners? It is said that some may 
not belong to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda at all, but were 
members of the Taliban.

That was a horrific regime and the Afghani people are delighted to 
be rid of it. But it achieved power with the help of the United 
States and the UK.

Since September 11, America has walked a fine line between fighting 
for humanity and lusting after revenge. The treatment of these 
prisoners shows how far the balance has tilted the wrong way.

If Mr Bush insists on following this path, the rest of the world 
should leave him in no doubt that he walks it alone. And Tony Blair 
should be leading the protest.

What is happening at Guantanamo is a disgrace. It must not be done 
in our name, Mr Blair.
   




Re: lefties stop your whining

2002-01-20 Thread Patrick Bond

- Original Message -
From: Ian Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 9:56 AM
 While the Genoa G8 summit last July was being besieged by violent elements
from Europe's middle
 class on the outside, the voice of Africa's poor was being heard for the
first time inside.
 Britain's Labour Prime Minister had insisted that leaders from South
Africa and Nigeria should be
 invited to put their case for debt relief, fair trade and investment - a
case first heard by
 purposeful campaigners at the Birmingham G8 Summit in 1998 - proof that
the left can succeed through
 targeted and effective protest.

A complicated divide-and-rule gambit here, but it's clear our old
anti-apartheid comrade wants a new line-up of Blair, Mbeki and
Bono/Pettifor. In London on 13 Feb and Washington/NY on 27-28 Feb, I'll be
doing this talk at various lefty locations, so let me know off-list if
you're around and want details...

***

 Thabo Mbeki and Nepad:
 Breaking or Shining the Chains of Global Apartheid?

 by Patrick Bond

1. Introduction

This essay considers Thabo Mbeki's analysis of globalisation, strategy and
demands for global-scale and continental socio-economic progress, and
preferred alliances. These topics arise because of his stated intention, in
the October 2001 New Partnership for Africa's Development (Nepad), to
establish a `new framework of interaction with the rest of the world,
including the industrialised countries and multilateral organisations'--one
that is sufficiently `radical' to lift African GDP growth to 7% per annum.
 It will be clear, both in excerpts from his speeches considered below and
from the New Partnership for African Development (Nepad), that Mbeki's
approach is consistent with the broader problem of compradorism. As Mbeki
himself warned, `Our own intelligentsia faces the challenge, perhaps to
overcome the class limitations which [Walter] Rodney speaks of, and ensure
that it does not become an obstacle to the further development of our own
revolution.'  I will instead arrive at the pessimistic conclusion that the
challenge has already been lost, judging by Nepad and related international
reform efforts. Mbeki and his main allies have already succumbed to the
class (not necessarily personalistic) limitations of post-Independence
African nationalism, namely acting in close collaboration with hostile
transnational corporate and multilateral forces whose interests stand
directly opposed to Mbeki's South African and African constituencies.
 In addition to Rodney, this premonition was recorded explicitly by Frantz
Fanon, in his chapter on `The Pitfalls of National Consciousness,' in The
Wretched of the Earth:

 The national middle class discovers its historic mission: that of
intermediary. Seen through its eyes, its mission has nothing to do with
transforming the nation; it consists, prosaically, of being the transmission
line between the nation and a capitalism, rampant though camouflaged, which
today puts on the mask of neocolonialism. The national bourgeoisie will be
quite content with the role of the Western bourgeoisie's business agent, and
it will play its part without any complexes in a most dignified manner. But
this same lucrative role, this cheap-Jack's function, this meanness of
outlook and this absence of all ambition symbolise the incapability of the
middle class to fulfill its historic role of bourgeoisie. Here, the dynamic,
pioneer aspect, the characteristics of the inventor and of the discoverer of
new worlds which are found in all national bourgeoisies are lamentably
absent. In the colonial countries, the spirit of indulgence is dominant at
the core of the bourgeoisie; and this is because the national bourgeoisie
identifies itself with the Western bourgeoisie, from whom it has learnt its
lessons...
  In its beginnings, the national bourgeoisie of the colonial country
identifies itself with the decadence of the bourgeoisie of the West. We need
not think that it is jumping ahead; it is in fact beginning at the end. It
is already senile before it has come to know the petulance, the
fearlessness, or the will to succeed of youth.

But Mbeki and his internationally-oriented cabinet colleagues--especially
finance minister Trevor Manuel, trade and industry minister Alec Erwin and
their staffs--would no doubt object. They locate not only their own
(national) ambition but also the continent's potential transformation not in
lucrative personal accomplishments or Western-style bourgeois decadence, but
rather in the further integration of Africa into a world economy, they would
also concede, that is itself in need of better regulation and fairer
economic rules. The project, therefore, is to reform interstate relations
and the embryonic world-state system. As Nepad explains,

 While globalisation has increased the cost of Africa's ability to compete,
we hold that the advantages of an effectively managed integration present
the best prospects for future economic prosperity and 

lefties stop your whining

2002-01-19 Thread Ian Murray

Why the Left should stop whining
New world politics throws up new challenges - to those who seek practical solutions 
and to
anti-globalisation nihilists
The globalisation debate - Observer special

Peter Hain
Sunday January 20, 2002
The Observer

Globalisation is a force that does not allow the luxury of saying, 'Stop, I want to 
get off'. It is
impossible to stop satellite television, the internet and telecommunications. It is 
impossible to
ban air travel or pop culture; impossible to ban the mobility of capital. The 
question, therefore,
is not whether it can be stopped or abolished. Globalisation is a fact of life and the 
real question
is: 'What sort of globalisation do we want and how can we get it?'

Between the balaclava rock-throwers with their nihilist ideology on the one hand and 
Greenpeace,
Friends of the Earth, Drop the Debt on the other is the same split there has always 
been. Two
centuries ago as industrialisation got underway, the former would have been Luddites, 
trashing
factory machines; the latter the embryonic labour movement. The divide is also between 
failure and
success. Like the Luddites, the balaclava boys are totally ineffectual and, in the 
long-term,
irrelevant.

While the Genoa G8 summit last July was being besieged by violent elements from 
Europe's middle
class on the outside, the voice of Africa's poor was being heard for the first time 
inside.
Britain's Labour Prime Minister had insisted that leaders from South Africa and 
Nigeria should be
invited to put their case for debt relief, fair trade and investment - a case first 
heard by
purposeful campaigners at the Birmingham G8 Summit in 1998 - proof that the left can 
succeed through
targeted and effective protest.

Our task is to master globilisation in the interests of the poor and not just the rich 
and in the
interests of the environment and not just the multi-nationals. By deploying the 
European Union's
huge resources, together with its potential as a catalyst for progressive change, we 
can push for an
international agenda of which the left can be proud. It should be an empowering agenda 
for fighting
poverty, redistributing wealth and eliminating weapons of mass destruction, an agenda 
that
recognises there is no security at home without freedom and good governance abroad, 
and that the
environment is not a free resource that we can continue to plunder at will.

This agenda needs to be promoted beyond Europe through the United Nations, the G8, the 
OECD, the
Commonwealth - and through Nato. Such international diplomacy is difficult and often 
frustrating. It
needs prodding and pushing by protest but ultimately it is the only mechanism for 
action. Too many
on the left are trapped in a Cold War time warp. Of course, we were right during that 
period to
protest as the US, purporting to act in the name of freedom, trampled over Vietnam, or 
propped up
brutal dictatorships in Latin America. We were right, too, to attack the Soviet 
suppression of
democratic uprisings in Hungary in 1956 and Czechoslovakia in 1968.

The Cold War also saw proxy wars fought throughout the developing world: for example, 
Angola torn
apart and virtually destroyed by Unita, a force of murder and terror backed by the CIA 
and South
Africa, just because the government called itself 'Marxist'. But we can no longer look 
at the
developing world through an East/West prism.

Russia and China both backed the US-led international action in Afghanistan. Russia is 
also seeking
a partnership with Nato and the EU. If the left is about anything surely it is about 
recognising
change and pressing for more of it, rather than being trapped in the past?

After Britain and our allies intervened to save the people of Kosovo from ethnic 
cleansing and
genocide in 1999, the UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan called for a progressive new 
doctrine of
'humanitarian intervention'. It should get our full support.

Take Sierra Leone. Who really objected to British troops intervening in 2000 in 
support of UN
peacekeepers to prevent a legitimate government being destroyed by rebels whose 
speciality was
chopping off the limbs of babies? Why, John Pilger, who wrote that this was a classic 
imperialist
mission to grab the country's diamonds - left-wing paranoia of the first order, since 
the diamond
fields were controlled by the rebels and are now gradually being returned to the 
government. The
truth is that our intervention there - as in Bosnia, Kosovo, East Timor, Macedonia and 
Afghanistan,
was necessary. And it was successful.

Rather than classic wars between states, or even progressive revolutions against 
corrupt old orders,
we have new phenomena: states that have failed, like Afghanistan, being dominated by a 
terrorist
clique. Or neighbouring peoples brutalised by tyrants like Saddam Hussein or Slobodan 
Milosevic. Or
wars like in Angola, the Congo or Sierra Leone, where rebels fight, not for noble 
causes but to grab
personal power.

On Afghanistan, I

A way to stop terrorism

2001-09-12 Thread Eugene Coyle

How can the USA appoint a terrorist as our Ambassador to the UN after
yesterday?  Call your Senator!

Gene Coyle



The Senate Foreign Relations Committee has scheduled hearings on the
nomination of John Negroponte as UN Ambassador tomorrow, Thursday,
Sep. 13, 11 a.m. EST.  We need to flood the lines of the Foreign
Relations Committee (see phone numbers below).  It is suggested that
each of us call a minimum of three times.  Thanks, SOAWatch West.

SOA Watch West - Sept. 11, 2001
Spread the word to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that you've read
the article below!
---
(A)  Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
Member of Senate Foreign Relations Committee
Phone 202-224-3553 (Ask for Shawn.)
No DC Fax Number available

(B)  Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE)
Chair, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
Phone 202-224-5042
Fax 202-224-0139

(C)  Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
not a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
Phone 202-224-3841
Fax 202-228-3954

The New York Review of Books (http://www.nybooks.com/articles/14485)
September 20, 2001
Our Man in Honduras by Stephen Kinzer
When a country finds itself at the center of world history, it begins
attracting spies, mercenaries, war profiteers, journalists, prostitutes, and
fortune-seekers. Often they gravitate to a particular hotel. In Honduras,
which was shaken from its long slumber in the 1980s and turned into a violent
staging ground for cross-border war, the Maya was that hotel. Perched atop a
high hill near the central plaza in the capital city, Tegucigalpa, its tinted
windows giving it an air of mystery, the Maya attracted a variety of sinister
characters. Counterrevolutionaries hatched bloody plots over breakfast beside
the pool. You could buy a machine gun at the bar. Busloads of crew-cut
Americans would arrive from the airport at times when I knew there were no
commercial flights landing, spend the night, and then ship out before dawn;
they said they didn't know where they were going, and I believed them.
Friends told me that death squad torturers stopped in for steak before
setting off on their night's work. But in those days, much of what anyone
said in Honduras was a lie. That was certainly true at the Maya, and equally
so at the American embassy a couple of miles away.
The diplomat who presided over that embassy from 1981 to 1985, John Dimitri
Negroponte, was a great fabulist. He saw, or professed to see, a Honduras
almost Scandinavian in its tranquillity, a place where there were no
murderous generals, no death squads, no political prisoners, no clandestine
jails or cemeteries. Now that President Bush has nominated Negroponte to be
United States ambassador to the United Nations, his record in Honduras is
coming under new scrutiny. The Senate Foreign Relations Committee will hold a
hearing on his nomination soon, probably in September. With the chairmanship
of the committee now passed from Jesse Helms to Joseph Biden, this hearing
promises to be anything but routine. It will recall the polarizing drama of
Central America in the 1980s, a historical chapter that seemed closed but
that the Bush administration has chosen to reopen. It may even throw some
light onto places that have for two decades been as dark and scary as the
Maya Hotel bar at midnight.
Over the last few weeks, investigators for the Foreign Relations Committee
have been reading classified government documents written by or about
Negroponte. They have also conducted an extensive private interview with him.
At the committee hearing on his nomination, senators are likely to ask him
about what they suspect were false reports that he filed on human rights
conditions in Honduras, and about questionable sworn testimony he later gave
the committee.
The material we reviewed pertains specifically to that time in Honduras and
to the question of the alleged and real human rights abuses that took place,
said Norman Kurtz, a spokesman for Senator Biden. The key question people
are asking is what John Negroponte knew at the time and to what extent did he
report back to the State Department. We are trying to have some of these
documents quickly reclassified so we can have them on the record at the time
of the hearing.

In Honduras Negroponte exercised US power in ways that still reverberate
throughout that small country. His most striking legacy, though, is the
Honduras of his imagination. Most people who lived or worked in Honduras
during the 1980s saw a nation spiraling into violence and infested by
paramilitary gangs that kidnapped and killed with impunity. Negroponte would
not acknowledge this. He realized that the Reagan policy in Central America
would lose support if truths about Honduras were known, so he refused to
accept them.
By nominating Negroponte as ambassador to the United Nations, the Bush
administration is sending at least two clear messages. The first is addressed
to the UN itself. During his years in Honduras, Negroponte acquired a
reputation, 

I said, Stop Gloating!

2001-08-23 Thread Michael Keaney

Tory civil war erupts 

* Major savages Thatcher * Tebbit savages Clarke * Clarke savages Duncan
Smith

Nicholas Watt, political correspondent
Thursday August 23, 2001
The Guardian

A ferocious round of internal Tory bloodletting was unleashed yesterday
when John Major intervened in the leadership contest in
an attempt to derail Iain Duncan Smith's campaign and to destroy
Margaret Thatcher's legacy. 

As the two leadership contenders held their only head-to-head television
debate of the campaign, senior Conservatives tore strips
off each other after Mr Major accused Lady Thatcher of inflicting damage
on his government, and came close to branding Mr
Duncan Smith a liar. 

Lord Tebbit rounded on Mr Major as a bitter man, saying that Mr
Clarke's supporters were in no position to offer lectures on
loyalty, alleging the former health secretary approached him in 1990 to
unseat Lady Thatcher months before her downfall. 

His outburst marked a new low in the contest after the Duncan Smith camp
reacted furiously to Mr Major's portrayal of their man
as a slippery operator whose supporters are electoral poison. In a BBC
interview, the former prime minister effectively accused
Mr Duncan Smith of lying when he rejected his claim that he was offered
a government post to buy him off during his rebellions
against the Maastricht treaty in the early 1990s. 

I can tell you categorically that at no stage did I offer Iain a job in
government, Mr Major said. His remarks were an
embarrassment to Mr Duncan Smith, who claimed in January that he turned
down government appointments. 

The Duncan Smith camp hit back, claiming he was offered the post of
ministerial aide to the disgraced former cabinet minister
Jonathan Aitken. It was offered, they said, by the former deputy chief
whip Greg Knight, who is supporting Mr Clarke in the
leadership contest. 

The spat over Mr Duncan Smith's record as a Tory rebel erupted after Mr
Major gave vent to 10 years of frustration when he
rounded on Lady Thatcher for encouraging Eurosceptic backbenchers to
vote against his government over the Maastricht treaty.
In an interview on the Today programme, in which he endorsed Mr Clarke,
the former prime minister said his predecessor had
inflicted unprecedented and immense damage to his government by
colluding with the likes of Mr Duncan Smith. 

His outburst provoked a ferocious assault from the right of the party.
Lord Tebbit - attacked by Mr Major in today's Spectator for
peddling crude innuendo about Michael Portillo - accused the former
prime minister of being silly and described Mr Clarke as a
devious figure who was Tony Blair's choice for Tory leader. 

Recalling Mr Clarke's alleged attempt to enlist his support in a plot to
unseat Lady Thatcher in 1990, the former cabinet minister
told the PM programme: Ken approached me and asked if I would be
willing to stand for the leadership of the party with him as
my deputy, because he said he was entirely comfortable with the policies
he thought I would pursue. 

A spokesman for Mr Clarke said that he had no recollection of such a
conversation, although he pointed out that discussions
about the leadership were rife at the time. 

The skirmishing among the Tory grandees set the scene for a bitter
contest between Mr Clarke and Mr Duncan Smith when they
appeared at the first leadership hustings at Westminster at lunchtime. 

The Duncan Smith camp distributed photographs of the former chancellor
next to Mr Blair at the launch of the cross-party Britain
in Europe pressure group. Underneath a caption read: Lest we forget ...
! 

During a 45 minute appearance, Mr Duncan Smith boasted of his role in
voting with Labour in the early 1990s against the
Maastricht treaty. To loud applause, he compared himself to Winston
Churchill and Harold Macmillan, who had defied Tory
governments. 

I voted against the government 11 times, he said. I abstained on a
large number of divisions which I felt would have damaged
us. I could not bring myself to vote for a treaty passing too many
powers over to Brussels. 

In a separate appearance, a relaxed Mr Clarke highlighted his disdain
for Mr Duncan Smith's brand of Conservatism when he said
that the electorate were right to reject the Tories in June. The public
were not wrong, he said. I agree with my fellow citizens. 

The former chancellor mocked Lady Thatcher, who provoked the latest
round of infighting when she warned that Mr Clarke would
be a disaster for the party. What did she do about my views on Europe
when I was a minister? he asked. She kept on
promoting me. 

But Mr Clarke was barracked by Duncan Smith supporters when he attempted
to reach out to Eurosceptics by saying that he did
not believe that Britain should abandon its tax-raising powers.
Rightwingers also reacted angrily when he criticised Tories who
opposed Chris Patten's report on policing in Northern Ireland, saying:
It's no good British Conservatives being more Orange than
the Unionists.

Full article at:

Fwd: [stop-imf] Ending Global Apartheid: Teach In for Action on the World Bank and IMF

2001-08-16 Thread Chris Burford

Quite right that following Genoa, there should be an intensified 
theoretical criticisms of global capitalism.

But although there is the argument for reparations to Africa, including for 
apartheid and the wars that apartheid South Africa caused over half the 
continent, but does anyone know how the organisers of this teach in, extend 
the concept of apartheid to talk of global apartheid?

Chris Burford

London


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ENDING GLOBAL APARTHEID:
TEACH IN FOR ACTION ON THE WORLD BANK AND IMF
Washington, DC, Sept. 27-29, 2001
http://www.essentialaction.org/wbimf/

During the Joint Annual Meetings of the World Bank and International
Monetary Fund (IMF) this September, tens of thousands of people will
converge in Washington, DC to be a part of the growing Global
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and practices of the IMF and World Bank that have caused  widespread
poverty, inequality, and suffering among the world's peoples and
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As part of this movement, Fifty Years is Enough, Jobs with Justice,
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global impact of the World Bank and IMF.

Thursday, Sept. 27, 7 pm, Opening Event, National Baptist Memorial
Church, 16th St and Columbia. Sept. 28 and 29, Plenaries all day, at
National Baptist and Casa del Pueblo Methodist Church, 1459 Columbia
Rd., NW, Washington, DC

Plenary sessions will address the true global impact of the World
Bank and IMF (on labor, environment, debt, the HIV/AIDS crisis, and
more). The Teach In will also discuss active national and
international campaigns against these institutions. Speakers will be
primarily from the Global South to discuss their experiences and
campaigns first hand in countries such as India, the Philippines,
South Africa, Senegal, Brazil, and many more.

Tickets: Thursday evening opening Event: $10; Friday and Saturday:
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Stop US Tax-funded Aid to Israel Now! (SUSTAIN)

2001-07-25 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

*   Stop US Tax-funded Aid to Israel Now! (SUSTAIN) is a 
non-hierarchical, grassroots organization committed to supporting and 
sustaining the Palestinian movement for justice, human rights and 
self-determination. The United States government supports Israeli 
violations of Palestinian national and human rights militarily, 
economically, and ideologically. The most tangible form of this 
support is the massive tax-funded aid that goes to Israel. We are 
committed to building a campaign against US military and economic aid 
to Israel so that US tax-dollars do not support the abuse of human 
rights

http://www.sustain-campaign.org/   *

Also visit Stop Aid to Israel at http://www.stopaidtoisrael.com/topics.php.

Yoshie




Fwd: How to Stop Bush Amnesty of 3 Million Illegal Aliens

2001-07-17 Thread Julio Huato

This was sent to me off list by Michael Pugliese:

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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 07:29:11 -0700

Julio Huato, I lurk on alot of Right-Wing lists. Give these nativists a 
piece of your mind. The reactionaries are going nuts!
Michael Howlin' Wolf Pugliese from pen-l

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million illegal criminal aliens.  A recent report by Mr. Bush's own 
officials at the State and Justice Departments has recommended that he 
circumvent U.S. laws and approve eventual citizenship to millions of mostly 
Mexican illegal immigrants.  Where is the compassionate conservatism for 
American citizens whose tax dollars line the pocket of these 
border-runners, lawbreakers and thieves?

After 8 years of Clintonism, Bush may seem right on many issues, but he is 
wrong on immigration!  Our President is about to squash our dignity and 
rights as American citizens in order to pander to the anti-American agenda 
of Mexican President Vicente Fox, and to the liberal Democrats in Congress. 
  Did the President and his strategists forget that Al Gore's and Bill 
Clinton's Citizenship USA program in 1996, which registered over 1.2 
million illegal aliens to vote, allowed the vast majority of their 
fraudulent ballots in 2000 to be cast for liberal Democrats?

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Fw: [ASDnet] Stop John Negroponte!!! From NicaNet, Quest for Peace, Witness for

2001-07-16 Thread Michael Pugliese


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 Stop Iran-Contra Criminal John Negroponte!
 Friday, July 6, 2001
 Act immediately to prevent Senate approval of Negroponte for Ambassador
to
 the UN!  Hearings may occur as early as mid-July!  Make sure your
Senator
 knows the truth about the candidate for this very important position!
 [This alert is called by the Nicaragua Network, Witness for Peace, and
Quest
 for Peace.  Please contact the Nicaragua Network for more information at
 202-544-9355 or [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 Alert includes:
 1) Introduction
 2) Background on John Negroponte, nominee for Ambassador to UN
 3) Suggested Actions (Mailing or Calling Your Senator)
 
 1) INTRODUCTION
 
 George W. Bush's presidency has begun with a return to the Reagan-era
 agenda.  Of concern to those of us in the Latin American solidarity
 community has been his unapologetic attempt to revive Cold War diplomacy
 through the nomination of former Iran Contra criminals to key diplomatic
 posts.  Reagan-era Assistant Secretary of State Elliott Abrams has been
 selected as the National Security Council's senior director for
democracy,
 human rights and international operations (a post which does not require
 Senate approval).  Some might remember that Abrams pled guilty to two
 misdemeanor counts of lying to Congress during the Iran Contra hearings
and
 was subsequently pardoned by George Bush, Sr.
 
 Though we cannot prevent Abrams' return to prominence, we can keep out
 former US Ambassador to Honduras John Negroponte who played a
significant
 role in the CIA-sponsored terrorism of Hondurans during the Nicaraguan
 Contra War.  The Bush Administration has officially nominated Negroponte
to
 be US Ambassador to the UN.  The Senate Foreign Relations Committee is
 preparing to hold nomination hearings before the close of July!
 
 This nomination is particularly egregious now that the international
 community has issued a vote of no confidence in US human rights
promotion by
 dropping our country from the UN Human Rights Commission.  John
Negroponte
 deliberately falsified State Department human rights reports throughout
his
 time in Honduras.  US missionaries and many people of faith and
conscience
 were MURDERED by the CIA-trained Honduran Batallion 3-16, which
Negroponte
 at best overlooked and at worst oversaw.  His nomination is an outrage,
but
 sadly, it will pass through with minimal resistance unless you as
 constituents do something about it!
 
 2) BACKGROUND ON JOHN NEGROPONTE
 
 The New York Times credits John Negroponte with carrying out the covert
 strategy of the Reagan administration to crush the Sandinista government
in
 Nicaragua during his tenure as US Ambassador to Honduras from 1981 and
 1985.  He oversaw the growth of military aid to Honduras from $4 million
to
 $77.4 million a year.  In early 1984, two American mercenaries, Thomas
Posey
 and Dana Parker, contacted Negroponte, stating they wanted to supply
arms to
 the Contra army after the US Congress had banned governmental add.
 Documents show that Negroponte connected the two with a contact in the
 Honduran military. The operation was exposed nine months later, at which
 point the Reagan administration denied any U.S. government involvement,
 despite Negroponte's contact earlier that year.  Other documents
uncovered a
 scheme of Negroponte and Vice President George Bush to funnel Contra aid
 money through the Honduran government.
 
 In addition to his work with the Nicaraguan Contra army, Negroponte
helped
 conceal from Congress the murder, kidnapping and torture abuses of a
 CIA-equipped and -trained Honduran military unit, Batallion 3-16.  No
 mention of these human rights violations ever appeared in State
Department
 Human Rights reports for Honduras.  The Baltimore Sun reports that
Efrain
 Diaz Arrivillaga, then a delegate in the Honduran Congress and a voice
of
 dissent, told the Sun that he complained to Negroponte on numerous
occasions
 about the Honduran military's human rights abuses.  Rick Chidester, a
junior
 Embassy Official under Negroponte, reported to the Sun that he was
forced to
 omit an exhaustive gathering of human rights violations from his 1982
State
 Department report.  Sister Laetitia Bordes went on a fact-finding
delegation
 to Honduras in May 1982 to investigate the whereabouts of 32 Salvadoran
nuns
 and women of faith who fled to Honduras in 1981 after Archbishop
Romero's
 assassination.  Negroponte claimed the Embassy knew nothing, but in
1996,
 Negroponte's predecessor Jack Binns reported that the women had been
 captured, tortured, and then crammed into helicopters from which they
were
 tossed to their deaths.
 
 According to the Los Angeles Times, the US government recently revoked
the
 visa of General Luis Alonso Discua Elvir, who was Honduras' deputy

Fwd: [stop-imf] Invitation to an online forum on the third world debt crisis

2001-07-03 Thread Chris Burford

Campaigns to cancel debt have been a very valuable step to a global 
movement against capitalism, but I think this campaign is in great danger 
of running into its own contradictions. IMO they can only be transcended by 
explicitly arguing

a) that capitalism itself produces unequal exchange, concentrates and 
centralises capital unevenly, independently of the will of any bloated 
individual

b) that it is esential to move towards social democratic structures of 
world government which will continuously pump out finance to the periphery 
without patronising the recipients as being morally irresponsible.

We need a shift of psychological and scientific perspective.

Really it should not be called debt any more? Deficit?

Chris Burford

London


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Please join us for an online forum on the third world debt crisis

As the leaders of the world's most powerful nations gather in Genoa,
Italy--and as thousands of protestors throng the streets--join us for a
global, electronic conversation on one of the most disturbing issues
within the debate over globalization, the third world debt crisis.

Do the world's poorest countries need immediate release from the
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What can be done to prevent another crisis? If those questions trouble
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WHAT: David Roodman, the author of a new Worldwatch Institute report--
Still Waiting for the Jubilee: Pragmatic Solutions for the Third World
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more about the report and the forum, visit
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July 20-22 as the heads of the world's eight leading industrial nations
(G-8) gather in Genoa, Italy. The host of the summit, the government of
Italy, has vowed to put the debt crisis at the top of the agenda. And
Drop the Debt, a London-based successor to Jubilee 2000 (the campaign
that forced rich-country politicians to respond to the debt crisis in
the late 1990s), has set its sites on a New Deal on Debt from the
Genoa summit (see http://www.dropthedebt.org/action/genoa.shtml).

Since World War II, the richest countries have lent the poorest ones
hundreds of billions of dollars, much of it in the name of democracy,
freedom, and development. Yet scores of the borrowing countries are now
mired in debt and poverty--some 47, according to World Bank benchmarks,
all but 10 of them African. Together, they owe $422 billion, or $380
per person, a substantial sum for them, but just 11 months of military
spending for western governments. Responding to pressure from
nongovernmental organizations, creditor governments have recently
offered to cancel up to 55 percent of the debt they are owed by 41 poor
debtors. In return, they are demanding that debtors implement market-
oriented structural adjustment economic policies and design poverty-
fighting plans in consultation with civil society groups.

Many rich-world politicians now want to put debt cancellation behind
them. But many non-governmental groups are calling for more. Both
sides, Roodman argues, may have unrealistic expectations about how much
good such programs are doing and can do. On the one hand, almost all of
the debt set for cancellation would never have been repaid anyway, so
canceling it will not make much financial difference. On the other
hand

STOP!

2001-06-29 Thread Michael Perelman

Look, I am going to have to start asking people to unsub for a
week if this nastiness continues.  Jumping in to defend those who
are wronged only makes things worse.  Please stop this ugly
behavior.

Look, nobody here is an expert on Mayan or Aztec civilization or
many of the others subjects with which people write as if they
were the world's leading authorities.  We can explore such
subjects.  We are in no position to denounce others for their
supposed ignorance.


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Fw: Act now to stop Bush's rewards for corporate outlaws!

2001-06-05 Thread Ian Murray


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 Get e-active now! The responsible contractor rule is under attack.
The
 rule is designed to make sure federal contracts--and taxpayer
dollars--go
 to responsible companies, not chronic lawbreakers.

 Now President George W. Bush wants to repeal the rule and open the
door to
 companies with outrageous records of breaking the law getting
taxpayer
 dollars--even if they routinely violate laws protecting workers'
rights
 and civil rights and illegally pollute our air and water.

 From now until July 6, we need to make our voices heard by
submitting
 comments about the responsible contractor rule to the Bush
administration
 agency responsible for issuing federal contractor rules.

 Click on the link below now to get more information and send an
e-mail to
 that agency. Tell the Bush administration to stop the attack on the
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Police repression can't stop Global Justice Movement

2001-05-17 Thread Louis Proyect

Police repression can't stop Global Justice Movement
by Ernie Tate

Ten thousand police were mobilised May 1 in London, against the 'threat'
posed by 5000 anti-capitalist demonstrators. This grotesque overkill was
accompanied by a weeks-long barrage of press hysteria, warning of 'anarchy'
and mayhem. Prime minister Tony Blair condemned the planned demonstrations
as representing 'spurious cause' and warned that demonstrators would be
dealt with. Former Labour left winger Ken Livingston, now mayor of London,
chimed in with strident support for the police. Huge numbers of police were
used in London's Oxford Street to entrap large crowds of demonstrators, and
keep them penned in for up to seven and a half hours - together with
bemused Japanese, Chinese and other tourists. Oxford Street had been chosen
by demonstrators because of the presence of GAP and other shops which use
cheap third world labour. The police operation cost £1.2m, including
£20,000 for breakfasts which for some reason the cops couldn't have at home. 

Before the demonstrations, there were heavy hints that plastic bullets and
tear gars would be used, and a warning from senior police officers that all
demonstrators could be arrested and their photos and details taken.

As it turned out, the clashes were small-scale, and mainly caused as some
demonstrators tried to break out of the police pen. The trouble was on a
much smaller scale than the rather tame riot which occurred on May Day
2000, which itself mainly revolved around the trashing of a small branch of
McDonald's. Both events were small beer compared with the 1990 poll tax
riots. So why the huge police mobilisation? Why the hysteria in the popular
press?

In fact, the political and police offensive against the anti-capitalist
movement on May 1 was not an isolated incident. In February, the umbrella
organisation Globalise Resistance found that two successive venues for its
huge weekend conference were cancelled at short notice. Clearly 'someone'
had talked to college authorities and warned them off - finally the
conference was held at the town hall of Labour-controlled Hammersmith.

The events in Britain follow an international pattern, vividly demonstrated
by the police riot against anti-capitalist globalisation demonstrators in
Quebec City in April. This in turn followed the pattern established in
Seattle, and followed in Washington, Prague, Sydney, Nice and many other
major cities. The leaders of the major capitalist powers have declared a
'get tough' policy against the global justice movement. They are attempting
to isolate, demoralise and criminalise the movement - and to divide it on
the issue of 'violence'. They are in effect issuing a warning that daring
to demonstrate against global capitalism will carry a heavy penalty in
terms of repression. In the short term this policy has had some limited
success in Britain.

Leading global justice campaigners George Monbiot (author of 'Captive
State') and Naomi Klein ('No Logo') have contributed misguided articles to
the London Guardian, the former arguing that the movement has to deal with
its 'violent' element, and the latter calling for less attention to public
demonstrations and more involvement in the community from 'rootless'
rebels. Both arguments are way off the mark. Neo-anarchist streetfighters
are a tiny grouping in Britain, and nothing new - they were much more in
evidence during the poll tax riots ten years ago. The conditions for
confrontation are created by the heavy hand of thousands of riot police.

And counterposing working in communities to public demonstrations shows a
rather limited knowledge of what anti-capitalist campaigners in Britain are
actually doing, not least in the huge election campaign being prepared by
the Socialist Alliance and the Scottish Socialist Party (but also in a
plethora of local campaigns against privatisation, racism etc). Debate in
the movement over tactics is perfectly normal, and in every country
campaigners will have to discuss out what methods lead to the biggest and
most politically influential mobilisations. But so long as the capitalist
leaders have decided on repression, street confrontations are bound to occur.

Not even the whole of the capitalist press was taken in by the
police-government charade. Mirror political columnist Paul Routledge
attacked the police action as a threat to democracy. London's only evening
paper The Standard gave a page to its columnist Zoe Williams who was on the
demonstration to denounce the police methods. She said, This is not just
about whether the police are stupid, or even about globalisation, this is
about whether the police should have the right to trap 5000 people for up
to seven and a half hours, for no better reason than they might break
something. And further the police proved that in the event of revolution
they might possibly be able to quash it, provided only 5000 people turn up!

On Ken Livingston, Zoe Williams pointed out that he strongly

21 Members of Congress ask Treasury to Stop IMF-World Bank Destruction of Mozambique's Cashew Industry

2001-04-27 Thread Robert Naiman

Please forward. For more information contact
Jonathan Fremont in Representative Cynthia
McKinney's office, 202-225-1605.

Congress of the United States
Washington, DC, 20515

April 26, 2001

Mr. Paul H. O'Neill
Secretary
Department of the Treasury
1500 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20220

Dear Secretary O'Neill:

As you are no doubt aware, in the last several
years Members of Congress on both sides of the
aisle have become increasingly dissatisfied with
the policies promoted and imposed by the
International Monetary Fund and the World Bank in
developing countries, using U.S. tax dollars.

One particular case stands out: for the last
several years, the IMF and the World Bank have
undermined Mozambique's efforts to rehabilitate
its cashew nut processing industry. As a result,
thousands of workers have lost their jobs in an
industry that was once one of the largest private
sector employers. Production has shifted to India,
which uses child labor to shell the nuts.
Ironically, the United States is a major market
for processed cashew, so that as a result of the
IMF/World Bank intervention, U.S. consumers are
subsidizing child labor. For years the World Bank
persisted in pressuring Mozambique to remove
support for its cashew industry, despite
opposition to the World Bank policy by Mozambique'
s democratically elected parliament and despite
the fact that a study commissioned by the World
Bank indicated that the World Bank's policy was
unsound.

Last year, the new head of the IMF, Horst Köhler,
promised that IMF policies would change, that the
IMF would stop imposing policies on developing
countries that have nothing to do with the IMF's
core mission.

Unfortunately, like so much rhetoric in the past
concerning reform at the international financial
institutions, it is far from clear that the change
in rhetoric has been matched by a change in
reality. Recent reports indicate that the IMF is
still pressuring Mozambique to remove support for
its cashew industry.

We regard the IMF's continued obstruction of
Mozambique's democratically determined economic
development policies to be an abuse of the
authority and resources granted to the IMF by the
United States. We ask you to instruct the United
States Executive Directors at the IMF and the
World Bank to communicate that it is the policy of
the United States that the IMF and the World Bank
should cease obstructing Mozambique's efforts to
rehabilitate its cashew industry.

Please keep us apprised of your efforts in this
regard.

Sincerely,


Cynthia McKinney  Bernie Sanders
Member of Congress  Member of Congress

Peter DeFazio Lane Evans
Member of Congress  Member of Congress

Rob Andrews  Eleanor Holmes-Norton
Member of Congress  Member of Congress

Julia CarsonDennis Kucinich
Member of Congress  Member of Congress

Barbara Lee Danny K. Davis
Member of Congress  Member of Congress

Bob Filner   Albert Wynn
Member of Congress  Member of Congress

Maxine Waters   William Lacy Clay
Member of Congress  Member of Congress

David Bonior  Donald Payne
Member of Congress  Member of Congress

Earl Hillard Jan Schakowsky
Member of Congress  Member of Congress

Bennie Thompson  Tammy Baldwin
Member of Congress  Member of Congress

Neil Abercrombie
Member of Congress





Stop the Tuition Hike! -- Walkout on April 25 in Columbus, OH

2001-04-22 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

*   STOP THE TUITION HIKE!
Demand Increased Funding for Higher Education!

Students, Staff,  Faculty
WALKOUT
Wednesday, April 25th, 10:30 a.m.
Rally at 15th Ave.  High St., 10:45 a.m.
March to the State Capital, 11:00 a.m.

It's time to make the Ohio State University,  the other public 
Universities in Ohio, what they are supposed to be -- institutions of 
higher education for ALL the people of Ohio, not just the wealthy. 
The state is planning to decrease its funding for higher education. 
Guess where OSU's budget shortfall will be covered from.  That's 
right -- from your pocket  your parents' pocket, and from that fat 
loan hanging over your head after graduation.  Sick of mortgaging 
your future?

Are you sick of working 50 hours a week to pay for an education?
Tired of watching your loans pile up?

Then it's time to say

"Enough is Enough!"

Students!  Walk out of class at 10:30 a.m. on April 25th and join 
community members and students from across the state of Ohio in 
marching to the statehouse.

We are asking University employees to join us.  We invite High School 
students who want an affordable OSU education to join us.

We are asking concerned faculty members to join our march in cap  gown.

As an educational community, we need to show the Legislature and the 
administration that we do not support higher tuition!  We want this 
university to return to its core mission -- educating the people of 
Ohio.

We need an OSU for ALL the people of Ohio!

Sponsored by the Student Tuition Alliance: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   *

  Dear Ohio State community:

The current funding from the state of Ohio for higher education is
horrible! Currently, Ohio ranks 40th in the United States in funding
from the state government. This means higher tuition for you, annual
tuition increases, and more difficult access to education for all of Ohio's
citizens.

This issue needs to be dealt with and I ask you to join with us as we
make the Legislature of Ohio understand that education in Ohio needs
to be supported by the state. It is their responsibility, and it is our
responsibility as students to fight for this cause.

We will meet at the Gateway (15th Avenue and High Street) at 11 a.m.
on Wednesday, April 25, to march down to the Statehouse where will
meet with students from the other universities in Ohio. I urge you to
have your voice heard and to make this rally an event that the state of
Ohio cannot ignore.

Thank you,

Ryan Robinson
President
Undergraduate Student Government


WHAT: HIGHER EDUCATION RALLY

WHEN: WEDNESDAY, APRIL 25, 2001

TIME: NOON

WHERE: OHIO STATEHOUSE,
1 SOUTH HIGH STREET, COLUMBUS

WHO IS INVITED: ANYONE SOMEHOW RELATED TO THE
STATE UNIVERSITY SYSTEM OF OHIO

GOAL: TO PERSUADE MEMBERS OF THE OHIO STATE
SENATE TO VOTE AGAINST GOV. BOB TAFT'S PROPOSED
HIGHER EDUCATION BUDGET, AND TO TRY TO BLOCK
FURTHER HIGHER ED CUTS PROPOSED BY SPEAKER OF THE
HOUSE LARRY HOUSEHOLDER AND SENATE PRESIDENT
  RICHARD FINAN.




ACTION ALERT: ASK CONGRESS TO STOP IMF/WB OBSTRUCTION OF MOZAMBIQUE'SDEVELOPMENT

2001-03-28 Thread Robert Naiman


- Original Message -
From: Robert Weissman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 4:30 PM
Subject: [stop-imf] ACTION ALERT: ASK CONGRESS TO
STOP IMF/WB OBSTRUCTION OF MOZAMBIQUE'SDEVELOPMENT


ACTION ALERT
Tuesday, March 27

Recent reports indicate that the International
Monetary Fund and the World
Bank are *still* pressuring Mozambique not to
support its cashew nut
processing industry, contravening the will of
Mozambique's democratically
elected parliament and imposing a policy
discredited by World
Bank-sponsored research.

Please ask your Member of Congress to sign the
following letter being sent
to the U.S. Treasury department by Representative
Cynthia McKinney. The
Congressional switchboard is 202-225-3121.

To sign on, offices should contact Jonathan
Fremont in Rep. McKinney's
office at 225-1605 by Friday, April 6th.

---
Robert Weissman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Essential Information
P.O. Box 19405, Washington, DC 20036, USA
Tel: 1-202-387-8030
Fax: 1-202-234-5176
www.essential.org

---

Paul H. O'Neill
Secretary of the Treasury

Dear Secretary O'Neill:

As you are no doubt aware, in the last several
years Members of Congress
on both sides of the aisle have become increasing
dissatisfied with the
policies promoted and imposed by the International
Monetary Fund and the
World Bank in developing countries, using U.S. tax
dollars.

One particular case stands out: for the last
several years, the IMF and
the World Bank have undermined Mozambique's
efforts to rehabilitate its
cashew nut processing industry. As a result,
thousands of workers have
lost their jobs in an industry that was once one
of the largest private
sector employers. Production has shifted to India,
which uses child labor
to shell the nuts. Ironically, the United States
is a major market for
processed cashew, so that as a result of the
IMF/World Bank intervention,
U.S. consumers are subsidizing child labor. For
years the World Bank
persisted in pressuring Mozambique to remove
support for its cashew
industry, despite opposition to the World Bank
policy by Mozambique' s
democratically elected parliament and despite the
fact that a study
commissioned by the World Bank indicated that the
World Bank's policy was
unsound.

Last year, the new head of the IMF, Horst Khler,
promised that IMF
policies would change, that the IMF would stop
imposing policies on
developing countries that have nothing to do with
the IMF's core mission.

Unfortunately, like so much rhetoric in the past
concerning "reform" at
the international financial institutions, it is
far from clear that the
change in rhetoric has been matched by a change in
reality. Recent reports
indicate that the IMF is still pressuring
Mozambique to remove support for
its cashew industry.

We regard the IMF's continued obstruction of
Mozambique's democratically
determined economic development policies to be an
abuse of the authority
and resources granted to the IMF by the United
States. We ask you to
instruct the United States Executive Directors at
the IMF and the World
Bank to communicate that it is the policy of the
United States that the
IMF and the World Bank should cease obstructing
Mozambique's efforts to
rehabilitate its cashew industry.

Please keep us apprised of your efforts in this
regard.

Sincerely,


Cynthia McKinney
Member of Congress





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Stop it! [was Re: ergonomics, etc.]

2001-03-25 Thread Michael Perelman

We picked up our daughter yesterday.  I am just now of wading through a
ton of e-mail.

The tone of this thread is pretty bad.  Too much noise relative to the
signal.  It's too late to point fingers at its origins.

So for now let us just stop it.  No more recriminations.

Canada is bad.  Nader is bad.  The working-class is bad.

I don't think anybody on this list (with one exception) thinks that Bush
or the Republicans would do a better job than Gore and his crew in terms
of this sort of policies that have been enacted so far.  The rationale
for supporting Nader seemed to be an effort to stop the rightward drift.

--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901




Re: Stop it! [was Re: ergonomics, etc.]

2001-03-25 Thread Brad DeLong

We picked up our daughter yesterday.  I am just now of wading through a
ton of e-mail.

The tone of this thread is pretty bad.  Too much noise relative to the
signal.  It's too late to point fingers at its origins.

So for now let us just stop it.  No more recriminations.

Canada is bad.  Nader is bad.  The working-class is bad.

I don't think anybody on this list (with one exception) thinks that Bush
or the Republicans would do a better job than Gore and his crew in terms
of this sort of policies that have been enacted so far.  The rationale
for supporting Nader seemed to be an effort to stop the rightward drift.

No. There were four rationales for Nader:

--(1) that the Nader campaign would gain extraordinary support and 
provide a breakthrough into a new, more fluid politics of possibility 
by destroying two-party gridlock...

--(2) that the Nader campaign would demonstrate the strength of the 
left, and convince the DLC types that there were more votes to be 
gained by going hunting on the left than by making additional 
accomodations in the center...

--(3) that this could be accomplished without running any significant 
risk of throwing the election to Bush...

--(4) that worrying about throwing the election to Bush--"lesser 
evilism"--was contemptible, because there was not a dime's worth of 
difference between Bush and Gore.

I don't know about you, but I heard (and read) a lot of these four 
reasons for much of last fall. Now I don't hear much of (1), (2), and 
(3). As far as (1) and (2) are concerned, Nader's 3% of the vote was 
not impressive by the scale of other insurgent efforts like Perot, 
Anderson, and Wallace. Thus there has been no breakthrough via the 
destruction of two-party gridlock, and the DLC remains enormously 
unimpressed. It is only here that I read *anyone* making claim (3).

And so I think that is important to point out that (4) is not 
correct. That there are significant and important differences in 
workplace policy, labor policy, judicial appointments, environmental 
policy, tax policy, foreign policy, and so forth between Bush and 
Gore. I want the people who claimed that there was not a dime's worth 
of difference between Bush and Gore to count up their change, and not 
to go into total denial as far as the stakes we lost last fall are 
concerned.

If it were just a question of their going into denial, and by 
forgetting history being condemned to repeat it, I would not care so 
much. But I fear that they are going to try to make me repeat it with 
them.


Brad DeLong




Re: Re: Stop it! [was Re: ergonomics, etc.]

2001-03-25 Thread Michael Perelman


Brad, that 3 percent of the vote was enough to sink the Gore campaign is a
sad commentary on what the Democrats had to offer.  With regard to voting for
Nader at no cost to Gore, Nader voters in California certainly had no effect
and knew it before hand.

With regard to the dimes worth of difference, a lot of posts have already
mentioned the dreary instances in which Clinton and Gore governed like
Republicans.  I am appalled by what Bush is doing, but probably I would be
equally angered by the way the Democrats governed, because I would think that
I had the right to expect more from them.

Really, Brad, this thread is going nowhere.  Everybody knows what you think.
You are not convincing anyone and none of us are going to convince you.



I wrote:

  The rationale
 for supporting Nader seemed to be an effort to stop the rightward drift.

Brad responded

 No. There were four rationales for Nader:

 --(1) that the Nader campaign would gain extraordinary support and
 provide a breakthrough into a new, more fluid politics of possibility
 by destroying two-party gridlock...

 --(2) that the Nader campaign would demonstrate the strength of the
 left, and convince the DLC types that there were more votes to be
 gained by going hunting on the left than by making additional
 accomodations in the center...

 --(3) that this could be accomplished without running any significant
 risk of throwing the election to Bush...

 --(4) that worrying about throwing the election to Bush--"lesser
 evilism"--was contemptible, because there was not a dime's worth of
 difference between Bush and Gore.

 I don't know about you, but I heard (and read) a lot of these four
 reasons for much of last fall. Now I don't hear much of (1), (2), and
 (3). As far as (1) and (2) are concerned, Nader's 3% of the vote was
 not impressive by the scale of other insurgent efforts like Perot,
 Anderson, and Wallace. Thus there has been no breakthrough via the
 destruction of two-party gridlock, and the DLC remains enormously
 unimpressed. It is only here that I read *anyone* making claim (3).

 And so I think that is important to point out that (4) is not
 correct. That there are significant and important differences in
 workplace policy, labor policy, judicial appointments, environmental
 policy, tax policy, foreign policy, and so forth between Bush and
 Gore. I want the people who claimed that there was not a dime's worth
 of difference between Bush and Gore to count up their change, and not
 to go into total denial as far as the stakes we lost last fall are
 concerned.

 If it were just a question of their going into denial, and by
 forgetting history being condemned to repeat it, I would not care so
 much. But I fear that they are going to try to make me repeat it with
 them.

 Brad DeLong

--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Re: Re: Stop it! [was Re: ergonomics, etc.]

2001-03-25 Thread jdevine

 Brad, that 3 percent of the vote was enough to sink the Gore campaign is a sad
commentary on what the Democrats had to offer.  With regard to voting for Nader at no 
cost
to Gore, Nader voters in California certainly had no effect and knew it before hand.

right! It's like those Democrats who diss Dubya for "talking down" the economy in 
order to
justify the tax breaks for his friends. If he has that kind of power, that says that 
the
US economy is basically unstable, ready for a severe recession anyway. So it's the 
economy
that's to blame, not his hated speech. If a straw breaks a camel's back, there's 
something
fundamentally wrong with the camel.

-- Jim Devine



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Re: Re: Re: Stop it! [was Re: ergonomics, etc.]

2001-03-25 Thread Colin Danby

Given that Brad has a cogent critique that he is willing to explain and
unpack in response to challenges, this is yet another abuse of
moderating authority.  I have no idea what this list is for any more,
save idle chat among the like-minded.  Every time a discussion gets into
any critical depth, especially if it challenges views Michael holds, he
tries to stop it.  It is particularly revealing that Michael's last
e-missive combined a substantive response to Brad with a request that he
shut up.

Best, Colin




Re: Stop it! [was Re: ergonomics, etc.]

2001-03-25 Thread Michael Perelman

I agree that Brad has a cogent critique.  The problem is that he has
repeated it any number of times.  I myself just made the mistake of
responding.  I was wrong.

I don't mind disagreement all.  I probably don't agree with one percent of
what David S. believes, except -- from what I infer from his behavior on the
list -- for communicating in a respectful and nonrepetitive way.

Colin Danby wrote:

 Given that Brad has a cogent critique that he is willing to explain and
 unpack in response to challenges, this is yet another abuse of
 moderating authority.  I have no idea what this list is for any more,
 save idle chat among the like-minded.  Every time a discussion gets into
 any critical depth, especially if it challenges views Michael holds, he
 tries to stop it.  It is particularly revealing that Michael's last
 e-missive combined a substantive response to Brad with a request that he
 shut up.

 Best, Colin

--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Stop the GATS call to action sign-on letter

2001-03-02 Thread Lisa Ian Murray

[From FoodFirst]

ATTENTION --- Civil Society Activists Around the World!

Although the Battle of Seattle was successful in preventing a new
comprehensive round of global trade talks from going ahead, this did not
mean there would not be trade negotiations at the WTO. On the contrary,
a whole new set of WTO talks on global trade in 'services' began in
February, 2000, with formal negotiations due to begin this spring after
a crucial stocktaking session is completed at the end of March. These so
called GATS negotiations [General Agreement on Trade in Services] could
have a dramatic and profound effect on a wide range of public services
and citizens' rights all over the world.

Below is a statement, Stop the GATS Attack Now!, which has been prepared
by an international network of civil society organizations working on
WTO issues. As with previous initiatives like No New Round! and Shrink
or Sink!, we hope this statement will help to launch and link together a
series of country-based campaigns on the GATS negotiations all over the
world.

We would greatly appreciate it if your organization would consider
signing-on to this statement as soon as possible. The procedures for
doing so are outlined below. It is our intention to collect sign-ons
from civil society organizations in as many countries as possible before
formally launching the statement in mid-March prior to the GATS
stocktaking meetings in Geneva later that month. So, please let us know
soon if your organization can sign-on!

Instructions on how your organization can sign the letter: (This is an
organizational sign-on letter only. We will not be adding individuals to
it)

1) Send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) In the subject line
type in "GATS Attack signatory" 3) In the body of the e-mail list the
organization  country (contact information such as address, phone  fax
is also appreciated) that you are signing on. Those who wish should
mention how many people the organization represents.



Stop the GATS Attack Now!

As civil society groups fighting for democracy through fair trade and
investment rules, we reject the outright dismissal by the World Trade
Organization [WTO], some of its member governments and allied
corporations of the vital concerns raised by civil society before,
during and after Seattle. The smoke and pepper spray had barely lifted
from the streets of Seattle when the WTO launched new negotiations to
expand global rules on cross border trade in services in a manner that
would create vast new rights and access for multinational service
providers and newly constrain government action taken in the public
interest world wide. These talks would radically restructure the role of
government regarding public access to essential social services world
wide to the detriment of the public interest and democracy itself.

Initiated in February 2000, these far-reaching negotiations are aimed at
expanding the WTO's General Agreement on Trade in Services [GATS] regime
so as to subordinate democratic governance in countries throughout the
world to global trade rules established and enforced by the WTO as the
supreme body of global economic governance. What's more, these GATS 2000
negotiations are taking place behind closed doors based on collusion
with global corporations and their extensive lobbying machinery.

The existing GATS regime of the WTO, initially established in 1994, is
already comprehensive and far reaching. The current rules seek to phase
out gradually all governmental "barriers" to international trade and
commercial competition in the services sector. The GATS covers every
service imaginable - including public services -in sectors that affect
the environment, culture, natural resources, drinking water, health
care, education, social security, transportation services, postal
delivery and a variety of municipal services. Its constraints apply to
virtually all government measures affecting trade-in-services, from
labor laws to consumer protection, including regulations, guidelines,
subsidies and grants, licensing standards and qualifications, and
limitations on access to markets, economic needs tests and local content
provisions.

Currently, the GATS rules apply to all modes of supplying or delivering
a service including foreign investment, cross-border provisions of a
service, electronic commerce and international travel. Moreover, the
GATS features a hybrid of both a "top-down" agreement [where all sectors
and measures are covered unless they are explicitly excluded] and a
"bottom-up" agreement [where only sectors and measures which governments
explicitly commit to are covered]. What this means is that presently
certain provisions apply to all sectors while others apply only to those
specific sectors agreed to.

The new GATS negotiations taking place now in the World Trade
Organization are designed to further facilitate the corporate takeover
of public services by:

1) Imposing new and severe c

Stop the light

2001-01-18 Thread Lisa Ian Murray

[it was this kind of activity that "The Matrix" was mythologizing to
space-time writ large...it's stuff like this that makes techno-libertarians
so giddy about "the new economy"]

full article at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/18/science/18LIGH.html
January 18, 2001  Single-Page Format
Scientists Bring Light to Full Stop, Hold It, Then Send It on Its Way
By JAMES GLANZ


Researchers say they have slowed light to a dead stop, stored it and then
released it as if it were an ordinary material particle.

The achievement is a landmark feat that, by reining in nature's swiftest and
most ethereal form of energy for the first time, could help realize what are
now theoretical concepts for vastly increasing the speed of computers and
the security of communications.

[snip]




Re: Stop the light

2001-01-18 Thread Tom Walker

Scientists Bring Light to Full Stop, Hold It, Then Send It on Its Way

But can they stop the time?

Tom Walker
Sandwichman and Deconsultant
Bowen Island, BC




ACTION: Tell Amazon.com Stop Unionbusting!

2000-11-28 Thread Nathan Newman


HELP STOP UNIONBUSTING AT AMAZON.COM!!!

Amazon.com has mounted a major antiunion campaign against workers seeking to
exercise their right to unionize, holding captive audience meetings,
pressuring individual employees and mounting libelous attacks on unions in
general.

Tell this anti-union company to stop their attacks on their workers right to
organize or you will boycott their company.

Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Let the company know that union-busting is unacceptable!!!

Following is a NY Times article about Amazon.com's antiunion campaign.
---

November 29, 2000
New York Times
Amazon Fights Union Activity
By STEVEN GREENHOUSE

Amazon.com has come out swinging in its fight to stop a new unionization
drive, telling employees that unions are a greedy, for-profit business and
advising managers on ways to detect when a group of workers is trying to
back a union.

A section on Amazon's internal Web site gives supervisors antiunion material
to pass on to employees, saying that unions mean strife and possible strikes
and that while unions are certain to charge expensive dues, they cannot
guarantee improved wages or benefits.

The Web site advises managers on warning signs that a union is trying to
organize. Among the signs that Amazon notes are "hushed conversations when
you approach which have not occurred before," and "small group huddles
breaking up in silence on the approach of the supervisor."

Other warning signs, according to the site, are an increase in complaints, a
decrease in quality of work, growing aggressiveness and dawdling in the
lunchroom and restrooms.

Amazon, one of the leaders in electronic retailing, has stepped up its
antiunion activities the last week after two unions and an independent
organizing group announced plans to speed efforts to unionize Amazon during
the holiday e-shopping rush. The organizing drive is the most ambitious one
ever undertaken in the high- technology sector, where the nation's labor
movement has yet to establish a foothold.

The Communications Workers of America has undertaken a campaign to unionize
400 customer-service representatives in Seattle, where Amazon is based. The
United Food and Commercial Workers Union and the Prewitt Organizing Fund, an
independent organizing group, are seeking to unionize some 5,000 workers at
Amazon's eight distribution centers across the country. The unionization
drive has gained momentum because many workers are upset about layoffs at
Amazon last January and about the sharp drop in the value of their stock
options.

One chapter on Amazon's internal Web site, which provides a rare internal
glimpse at how a company is fighting off a union, is headlined, "Reasons a
Union is Not Desirable."

"Unions actively foster distrust toward supervisors," the Web site says.
"They also create an uncooperative attitude among associates by leading them
to think they are `untouchable' with a union."

The Web site, which calls the company's workers associates, adds: "Unions
limit associate incentives. Merit increases are contrary to union
philosophy."

A union supporter who insisted on anonymity and acknowledged seeking to
embarrass the company over its antiunion campaign made a copy of the Web
site material available to The New York Times. Amazon officials confirmed
that the material came from the company's Web site.

Patty Smith, an Amazon spokeswoman, said the main purpose of the Web site
material was to tell supervisors what they can do to oppose a union and what
actions by managers violate laws barring retaliation against workers who
support unionization.

For instance, the Web site said supervisors could tell workers that the
company preferred to deal with them directly, rather than through an outside
organization.

It also said supervisors could tell workers about the benefits they enjoy.
As for the don'ts, the Web site warns supervisors not to threaten workers
with firings or reduce income or discontinue any privileges to any union
supporter.

Ms. Smith declined to name the lawyers the company had hired to work on the
material.

Union leaders said in interviews yesterday that their organizing drive was
going somewhat worse than they had expected largely because of the
unexpected aggressiveness of Amazon's antiunion efforts. Over the last two
weeks, managers have held a half-dozen "all hands" meetings for customer
service workers in Seattle, where managers have argued how unionizing would
be bad for Amazon.

Marcus Courtney, co-founder of the Washington Alliance of Technological
Workers, an affiliate of the communications workers' union, said, "This
shows how Amazon, despite its public statements that this is a decision we
let our employees make themselves and we trust them to make the right
decisions, all these meetings and the internal Web site and their manuals
show that Amazon management is trying to take this basic democrati

Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-13 Thread Michael Hoover

 It is interesting how narcissistic this list has become -- totally 
 focussed on the US and the selection of its imperial majesty.
 Now I realize how important American domestic politics is for the 
 rest of the world -- since domestic politics in the US can result in 
 thousands of deaths of innocents around the world.  But does this 
 mean we should lament the loss of Gore (adequately named?) 
 since the Democrats have been the leading force of American 
 Imperialism in this century?  Perhaps those of us outside the US 
 would rather see American capital beat up American workers rather 
 than combine to beat up workers in the rest of the world.
 Paul Phillips,

Be it resolved:
That since everyone (US and non-US) is told incessantly that US prez is 
"most powerful elected official in world"

and

That since above is unfortunately true *and* really fuckin' dangerous

Everyone, everywhere on earth has right to vote for chief 
representative and guardian of capitalism  Michael Hoover




Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-13 Thread Jim Devine

At 06:56 AM 11/13/00 -0500, you wrote:
Be it resolved:
That since everyone (US and non-US) is told incessantly that US prez is
"most powerful elected official in world"

and

That since above is unfortunately true *and* really fuckin' dangerous

Everyone, everywhere on earth has right to vote for chief
representative and guardian of capitalism  Michael Hoover

Of course, that would mean that US-style money-driven politics would become 
globalized. This in turn would mean that we might see the Sultan of Brunei 
involved in the politics of other nations!

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Justin Schwartz


Brad, hang it up. The thing is, we don't accept your iron cage. We don't 
accept defeat. We won't go away. Maybe we're mad, whether happy or not, but 
you won't make nice but unhappy liberals out of us. We don't register our 
suceess by our influence on the DLC. What matters is a popular movement. 
Whether that happens only after the election will show. Btw, if we are so 
deluded, why do you hang out with us, rather than with your sane liberal 
friends? And stop blaming Nader for your guy's inadequacies. If he loses, 
_he_ blew a near-sure thing. Don't look to us, we do not share his values 
and priorities, to pull your chestnuts out of the fire. --jks

From: Brad DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PEN-L:4158] Re: Stop the name calling
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:45:46 -0800

Brad,

There's no place here for calling people incompetent.  I voted for
Nader.  I would not have changed my vote even if it could've been
decisive for electing Gore.  I believe in the cold shower.  You don't.
That's no reason to be nasty toward other people.


The person whom I've called "incompetent" most often during the past
week has been Al Gore. I presume you have no objection to me calling
him "incompetent"? That it all depends on to whom the names are
applied?

As for Nader... You somehow think that the left in America is
stronger today because Nader won 3% of the vote. You are wrong.

Nader's 3% isn't the "cold shower" to make the core Democratic
politicians rethink their allegiance to the DLC. Instead, it is a
weak showing that confirms it. Look: 3% of the electorate is--by the
standards of past third-party efforts, whether Perot or Wallace or
even John Anderson--extremely unimpressive.

And in the process he has thrown the election to the right-wing
candidate, with important differences over the next four years for
the Supreme Court... the EPA... the EITC... the size of government...
the likelihood of Medicare expansion... Medicaid funding... and a
host of others.

This the left has sacrificed significantly as far as what policies
are going to be over the next four years by throwing the election to
Bush. And for what? To  convince everyone in America that the left is
weak. The DLC today is stronger than it was a week ago.

What would you suggest I call this refusal to recognize that, for the
American left, yesterday was a strong and significant defeat?


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Re: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Max Sawicky

 . . . What would you suggest I call this refusal to recognize that, for
the
 American left, yesterday was a strong and significant defeat?
 Brad DeLong


Since politics is about what people think, to
a great extent at least, the fact that the movement(s)
coalescing behind Nader have improved definition --
as a collectivity -- means the left is progressing. The
low Nader vote is not a great help in this vein, but it
does not detract from the general forward movement.
The definition includes a helpful sorting out.  For
instance, I used to think well of Todd Gitlin.  Now I
think he's a dork.  That's progress.

The Nader petition I signed is not a bad start for a
new political formation, even if it doesn't include the
greens.

In the beginning was the Word.

mbs




Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread phillp2

It is interesting how narcissistic this list has become -- totally 
focussed on the US and the selection of its imperial majesty.

Now I realize how important American domestic politics is for the 
rest of the world -- since domestic politics in the US can result in 
thousands of deaths of innocents around the world.  But does this 
mean we should lament the loss of Gore (adequately named?) 
since the Democrats have been the leading force of American 
Imperialism in this century?  Perhaps those of us outside the US 
would rather see American capital beat up American workers rather 
than combine to beat up workers in the rest of the world.

Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba




RE: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC

From: Michael Perelman:

How could a decent Democratic candidate not win with the economy going
relatively well and no big international problems against such an inept
rival?
---

i guess this is a rhetorical question, but i'll bite anyway.

Big Al showed the masses watching TV that he is conceited ("look ma, captain
of the debate team") and devious (stretching the truth, etc.).

the masses might not have a sophisticated education, but their intuition is
good enough to smell a skunk.


norm




Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Doug Henwood

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It is interesting how narcissistic this list has become -- totally
focussed on the US and the selection of its imperial majesty.

Now I realize how important American domestic politics is for the
rest of the world -- since domestic politics in the US can result in
thousands of deaths of innocents around the world.  But does this
mean we should lament the loss of Gore (adequately named?)
since the Democrats have been the leading force of American
Imperialism in this century?  Perhaps those of us outside the US
would rather see American capital beat up American workers rather
than combine to beat up workers in the rest of the world.

Canada has an election coming up, no? Maybe you could tell us 
something about that.

Doug




Re: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Brad DeLong

The person whom I've called "incompetent" most often during the 
past week has been Al Gore. I presume you have no objection to me 
calling him "incompetent"? That it all depends on to whom the names 
are applied?

As for Nader... You somehow think that the left in America is 
stronger today because Nader won 3% of the vote. You are wrong.

Nader's 3% isn't the "cold shower" to make the core Democratic 
politicians rethink their allegiance to the DLC. Instead, it is a 
weak showing that confirms it. Look: 3% of the electorate is--by 
the standards of past third-party efforts, whether Perot or Wallace 
or even John Anderson--extremely unimpressive.


actually, i've been meaning to ask about this 3%.

when was the 5% rule enacted?

I haven't look terribly hard, but how much bigger than normal was 
turnout?  if it was substantially bigger, then the 3% isn't bad and 
may actually  have been pretty respectable were this a "normal" 50% 
turnout of the eligible to vote population.

Good point...




Re: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Brad DeLong

Brad, hang it up. The thing is, we don't accept your iron cage. We 
don't accept defeat. We won't go away. Maybe we're mad, whether 
happy or not, but you won't make nice but unhappy liberals out of us.

So you agree that for you politics is a means of self-expression, 
rather than an attempt to make the world a better place?


Brad DeLong




Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Brad DeLong

BDLThe political naivete of people who think that the White House is
some kind of dictatorial center of power continues to astonish me.


BDLAnd in the process he has thrown the election to the right-wing
candidate, with important differences over the next four years for
the Supreme Court... the EPA... the EITC... the size of government...
the likelihood of Medicare expansion... Medicaid funding... and a
host of others.

BDLThe DLC today is stronger than it was a week ago.

**
Substitute more arrogant for stronger in the sentence directly above and I
think that about sums it up.

Learning aversion; the ultimate white male disease.

Ian

You think that Nader's 3% showing is impressive?




Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Brad DeLong

Since politics is about what people think, to
a great extent at least, the fact that the movement(s)
coalescing behind Nader have improved definition --
as a collectivity -- means the left is progressing. The
low Nader vote is not a great help in this vein, but it
does not detract from the general forward movement.
The definition includes a helpful sorting out.  For
instance, I used to think well of Todd Gitlin.  Now I
think he's a dork.

I've thought Todd Gitlin was a dork for a long time. But "all enemies 
on the right" does not a large movement make when you start with 3%...

Brad




Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread phillp2

Doug asks:

 Canada has an election coming up, no? Maybe you could tell us 
 something about that.
 
 Doug
 
Well, perhaps Ken and some of the others on the list should also 
put their takes on it, but here is mine.

The governing Liberals (equivalent to your Democrats) are likely to 
win a plurality (majority of seats, perhaps 45 + or - % of the vote), 
with the "Alliance" -- a right-wing coalition of former Conservatives 
and the right-populist-neo-liberal-racist Reform (sic) Party -- forming 
the opposition (25 + or - % of the vote).  The remaining vote will be 
split between the separatist Bloc Quebecois, the social democratic 
NDP and the traditional Tory Conservatives.  

The NDP which has embraced some of the objectionable "3rd way" 
nonsense of the British Labour Party, still is relatively the best 
choice for those on the left/reform side of the spectrum -- more or 
less along the Nader lines though perhaps less radical.  There is 
no alternative to the left of the NDP.  It may rally to get perhaps 10 
% of the popular vote, and enough seats to maintain official party 
status (somewhat equivalent to the 5% barrier in the US).  In 
Manitoba, the NDP should probably retain its present seats, for 
example.

The issues of the election are taxes (which the neo-liberal right are 
pushing) vs maintenance of current (inadequate) expenditures on 
medicare and other social programs (the stand-pat program of the 
Liberals).  The Alliance is essentially a carbon copy of the 
Republican Party in the US, except slightly to the right thereof.  
Rather scary -- pro-death penalty, anti-abortion, religion in the 
schools, etc.  The leader was formerly the principle of a religious 
fundamental school that taught creationism and labelled Jews as 
genetically evil etc.  Their appeal is primarily a reaction to the 
corruption and arrogence of the Liberals who though elected from a 
moderate liberal/social democratic platform, have consistently 
governed from a neo-liberal right position.  The difference in the 
party platforms between the Liberals and the Alliance is quite 
minimal.

Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba




Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.

MIchael,
  Who serving as Clinton's VP could have done
much better?  Bill Bradley?  Jesse Jackson?
A lot of people are dumping on Gore, and he 
certainly was stiff and made crucial misstatements
at crucial times.  But, he was not as bad a campaigner
as many think.  No VP was going to be given the 
credit for the economy the way Clinton was, and how
was one to escape the onus of Monica?
Barkley Rosser
-Original Message-
From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 5:31 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:4131] Stop the name calling


Brad,

There's no place here for calling people incompetent.  I voted for
Nader.  I would not have changed my vote even if it could've been
decisive for electing Gore.  I believe in the cold shower.  You don't.
That's no reason to be nasty toward other people.

And I'm not looking forward to four years of Bush.  Everybody accepts
that practically anybody -- or maybe not Charles Manson, bue he was
ineligible -- could have done a better job than Gore did.  Here in Chico
for Nader visit helped found three of four liberals to win on City
Council.

How could a decent Democratic candidate not win with the economy going
relatively well and no big international problems against such an inept
rival?

--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]






RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Max Sawicky

I don't translate Gitlin to 'enemy.'  It just means
I expect less high-level guidance from him.  He's
welcome in my movement, just not in a leadership
capacity.

mbs


I've thought Todd Gitlin was a dork for a long time. But "all enemies 
on the right" does not a large movement make when you start with 3%...

Brad




Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Michael Perelman

The VP doesn't do that much, although people say that he was decisive
welfare reform.  Gore was a good campaigner when he could set the 
stage himself with no interaction, otherwise, he was terrible.

His strategy stunk.  Few anti-clinton people would have supported him
even if he had attacked Clinton.


On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 01:15:40PM -0500, J. Barkley Rosser, Jr. wrote:
 MIchael,
   Who serving as Clinton's VP could have done
 much better?  Bill Bradley?  Jesse Jackson?
 A lot of people are dumping on Gore, and he 
 certainly was stiff and made crucial misstatements
 at crucial times.  But, he was not as bad a campaigner
 as many think.  No VP was going to be given the 
 credit for the economy the way Clinton was, and how
 was one to escape the onus of Monica?
 Barkley Rosser

-- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Doug Henwood

Michael Perelman wrote:

The VP doesn't do that much, although people say that he was decisive
welfare reform.

Every member of Clinton's cabinet, including Rubin, advised he veto 
the welfare bill. Only Gore  Dick Morris urged him to sign it.

Doug




Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Justin Schwartz

Au contraire. I think you have given up on making the world a better place. 
I have not. Speaking for myself, only, I don't think that you can do that to 
a great degree within the parameters you accept. If you had lived in slavery 
times, you would have written off the abolitionists as mad dreamers and 
extremists who would never affect anything because their radical politics 
excluded them from serious politics. You would have been wrong, too. My 
reading of our society is that there are social divisions that allow for, 
demand even, going beyond the limits that you think bind us, that the iron 
cage is a lot more fragile than you think.

Self expression is the least of it: if I thought I could improve the world 
by sinking into the democrats, embracing the butchers, I would. I am not too 
good for that. There is vileness I would not commit, but getting out the 
vote for Democrat isn't where I would draw the line in principle. The thing 
is, Brad, I tried it, I really did--I spent most of the 80s doing grassroots 
DP work in the Rainbow Coalition and in the Ann Arbor DP, and what it taught 
me is that if you have a mass movement or a community orgainizatiuon with 
you, you don't need the DP, because if you a re strong enough it will try to 
claim credit for things it refusedto support, and if you don;t, you might as 
well not bother, because all the DP will do for you is offer you chances to 
prostitutes your political ideals for the reward of being in the aprty.

Besides, Brad, you never addressed the point I made earlier, that people 
like me will never be admitted to the DP power circles anyway because of our 
past,unless we make a Great Renunciation and become real right wingers to 
show that we really have renounced the reasons that brought us into politics 
in the first place. From a purely selfish point of view, as well as from the 
point of view of effectiveness, there's nothing there for us, isn't that 
right?

--jks


From: Brad DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PEN-L:4190] Re: Re: Re: Stop the name calling
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 07:53:57 -0800

Brad, hang it up. The thing is, we don't accept your iron cage. We
don't accept defeat. We won't go away. Maybe we're mad, whether
happy or not, but you won't make nice but unhappy liberals out of us.

So you agree that for you politics is a means of self-expression,
rather than an attempt to make the world a better place?


Brad DeLong


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Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Brad DeLong

I don't translate Gitlin to 'enemy.'  It just means
I expect less high-level guidance from him.  He's
welcome in my movement, just not in a leadership
capacity.

mbs


I've thought Todd Gitlin was a dork for a long time. But "all enemies
on the right" does not a large movement make when you start with 3%...

Brad

Ah. A clarifying comment on the meaning of "dork"...

:-)




Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Brad DeLong

Michael Perelman wrote:

The VP doesn't do that much, although people say that he was decisive
welfare reform.

Every member of Clinton's cabinet, including Rubin, advised he veto 
the welfare bill. Only Gore  Dick Morris urged him to sign it.

Doug

I've heard this a bunch of times. But what's the ultimate source?


Brad DeLong




Re: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.

Michael,
   I agree.  But, who would have done better aside
from Clinton himself?
Barkley Rosser
-Original Message-
From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, November 09, 2000 2:08 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:4195] Re: Re: Stop the name calling


The VP doesn't do that much, although people say that he was decisive
welfare reform.  Gore was a good campaigner when he could set the 
stage himself with no interaction, otherwise, he was terrible.

His strategy stunk.  Few anti-clinton people would have supported him
even if he had attacked Clinton.


On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 01:15:40PM -0500, J. Barkley Rosser, Jr. wrote:
 MIchael,
   Who serving as Clinton's VP could have done
 much better?  Bill Bradley?  Jesse Jackson?
 A lot of people are dumping on Gore, and he 
 certainly was stiff and made crucial misstatements
 at crucial times.  But, he was not as bad a campaigner
 as many think.  No VP was going to be given the 
 credit for the economy the way Clinton was, and how
 was one to escape the onus of Monica?
 Barkley Rosser

-- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]






RE: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Lisa Ian Murray

BDLYou think that Nader's 3% showing is impressive?
**

I don't know; do you think Rosa Parks was impressive or was that too, a
one-shot prisoners dilemma type game? We won't go into, why, if N was so
ultimately empty a threat, your religious group and that other church worked
tirelessly to keep him out of the debates.

"Any attempt to develop a critique of the basic structures and principles of
a society involves of necessity transgressing and trespassing against the
Happy Consciousness. There are not only glass ceilings but glass walls that
define the accepted corridors of thought. Young aggressive professors in
economics and other social sciences are usually equipped with uncanny radar
so they can roar down the corridor of orthodox thought without ever getting
close to breaking through the walls--all the while seeing themselves as
brash free thinkers exploring the vast unknown." [David Ellerman]

Feudalism will never end,

Ian





Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Louis Proyect

Every member of Clinton's cabinet, including Rubin, advised he veto 
the welfare bill. Only Gore  Dick Morris urged him to sign it.

Doug

I've heard this a bunch of times. But what's the ultimate source?


Brad DeLong

The New York Times, August 1, 1996, Thursday, Late Edition - Final 

THE WELFARE BILL: THE WHITE HOUSE;  
Clinton Recalls His Promise, Weighs History, and Decides 

By TODD S. PURDUM  

WASHINGTON, July 31 

When President Clinton and a dozen of his top advisers sat down in the
Cabinet Room to discuss the welfare bill this morning, everyone knew he
faced the biggest domestic decision of his Presidency. Though they were
prepared to close ranks behind him, the President's advisers knew this was
their last chance to be heard on an issue on which there was no middle
ground left. 

By turns they spoke and their leader listened. But as he often does, Mr.
Clinton ended the two-and-a-half-hour meeting without tipping his hand.
Instead, he repaired to the Oval Office with Vice President AL GORE, who
aides said ENCOURAGED THE PRESIDENT TO SIGN THE BILL, and his chief of
staff, Leon E. Panetta, who URGED A VETO. 

Hillary Rodham Clinton, a former board chairman of the Children's Defense
Fund, which has bitterly opposed the bill, was at the Olympics in Atlanta,
and her chief of staff, Maggie Williams, who usually represents her at such
gatherings, did not even attend the final meeting. 

The debate arrayed advisers like Mr. Panetta, George Stephanopoulos and
Harold M. Ickes, who favored branding the bill extreme, against Dick
Morris, the President's political adviser, Mr. Reed and Rahm Emmanuel, a
political aide who led the charge to sign it as a way of delivering on Mr.
Clinton's 1992 promise to "end welfare as we know it." 

In the meeting, MR. GORE AND MR. PANETTA, AS DE FACTO LEADERS OF THE
OPPOSING GROUPS, each refrained from comment, while others sitting around
the big oblong table in the Cabinet Room spoke in turn. The group included
Treasury Secretary Robert E. Rubin, Housing Secretary Henry G. Cisneros,
Commerce Secretary Mickey Kantor, Labor Secretary Robert B. Reich and the
head of the National Economic Council, Laura D'Andrea Tyson. 



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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Doug Henwood

Brad DeLong wrote:

I've heard this a bunch of times. But what's the ultimate source?

The person I first heard it from got it from Dick Morris' book, I 
think, but someone told me last night that Peter Edelman has been 
saying the same thing.

Doug




Re: RE: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Michael Perelman

who is he.  Where did this appear?
Lisa  Ian Murray wrote:

 BDLYou think that Nader's 3% showing is impressive?
 **

 I don't know; do you think Rosa Parks was impressive or was that too, a
 one-shot prisoners dilemma type game? We won't go into, why, if N was so
 ultimately empty a threat, your religious group and that other church worked
 tirelessly to keep him out of the debates.

 "Any attempt to develop a critique of the basic structures and principles of
 a society involves of necessity transgressing and trespassing against the
 Happy Consciousness. There are not only glass ceilings but glass walls that
 define the accepted corridors of thought. Young aggressive professors in
 economics and other social sciences are usually equipped with uncanny radar
 so they can roar down the corridor of orthodox thought without ever getting
 close to breaking through the walls--all the while seeing themselves as
 brash free thinkers exploring the vast unknown." [David Ellerman]

 Feudalism will never end,

 Ian

--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Michael Perelman

Wellstone?

"J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." wrote:

 Michael,
I agree.  But, who would have done better aside
 from Clinton himself?

--

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Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Jim Devine

At 07:53 AM 11/9/00 -0800, you wrote:
You think that Nader's 3% showing is impressive?

Maybe it was impressive once you think of the fact that Nader voters were 
showered by a sh*t-storm of abuse and fear-mongering. The more that Nader 
seemed to be getting, the more the fear level was ratcheted upward. The 
closeness of the election -- and the domination of the winner-take-all 
system -- also encouraged fear-mongering. If it had been an LBJ vs. 
Goldwater type election, 3% would have definitely been unimpressive (since 
the former had such a big margin). But it wasn't.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




Re: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Ken Hanly

I agree with most of what Paul says. I think that the Alliance leader,
Stockwell Day, will jettison some of his goofier fundamentalist ideas for
pragmatic reasons. Apparently in his more rambunctious days when he was
assistant pastor of a fundamentalist church he led his flock to the local
pub where they prayed that the walls should come tumbling down. God
apparently suffered the sinners within to remain safe if not sober. Day does
favor a national referendum on abortion.
I am not sure why the Liberals and others seem so concerned about this. They
truly do want to sweep the issue under the table and avoid even talking
about it. In good populist fashion Day has been making much of Liberal
spending in Liberal constituencies and money spent with no good accounting.
The Communist Party is to the left of the NDP. However, it is not about
to elect anyone.
I notice a similarity between the Liberals and the Democrats. The
Liberals woo leftists by pointing out how right wing and reactionary Day is.
Yet, Liberals have been faithfully following the neo-liberal agenda and are
arguably just as right-wing as the Conservative government they replaced a
government decisively rejected by voters.The Liberals have done more to
sabotage medicare than any other party and yet they try to frighten voters
away from the Alliance by claiming, rightly, that the Alliance favors a
two-tier system. But by eroding the existing system the Liberals are
gradually making the system two-tier anyway. As Paul says there is not a
huge difference between the Liberal platform and the Alliance platform, just
as there is not a huge difference between the Democrats and Republicans. The
NDP is closer now to the two main parties than it has ever been. It is at 7
per  cent in the popular vote along with the Conservative party that not
long ago formed the Federal government.
I have not been following events closely enough to add anything to
Paul's predictions. However, I think that the NDP is probably almost finish
federally in BC, but may hold some seats in Manitoba and the Maritimes. The
unpopularity of the provincial NDP governments in BC and Saskatchewan may
very well doom there federal members. Although Stockwell Day speaks a
functional French I doubt that the Alliance Party will take any seats in
Quebec. The separatist Bloc Quebecois will probably take most of the seats
and Liberals the rest.
  Our choices are if anything even more depressing on the whole than in
the US.
  Cheers, Ken Hanly
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 Doug asks:

  Canada has an election coming up, no? Maybe you could tell us
  something about that.
 
  Doug
 
 Well, perhaps Ken and some of the others on the list should also
 put their takes on it, but here is mine.

 The governing Liberals (equivalent to your Democrats) are likely to
 win a plurality (majority of seats, perhaps 45 + or - % of the vote),
 with the "Alliance" -- a right-wing coalition of former Conservatives
 and the right-populist-neo-liberal-racist Reform (sic) Party -- forming
 the opposition (25 + or - % of the vote).  The remaining vote will be
 split between the separatist Bloc Quebecois, the social democratic
 NDP and the traditional Tory Conservatives.

 The NDP which has embraced some of the objectionable "3rd way"
 nonsense of the British Labour Party, still is relatively the best
 choice for those on the left/reform side of the spectrum -- more or
 less along the Nader lines though perhaps less radical.  There is
 no alternative to the left of the NDP.  It may rally to get perhaps 10
 % of the popular vote, and enough seats to maintain official party
 status (somewhat equivalent to the 5% barrier in the US).  In
 Manitoba, the NDP should probably retain its present seats, for
 example.

 The issues of the election are taxes (which the neo-liberal right are
 pushing) vs maintenance of current (inadequate) expenditures on
 medicare and other social programs (the stand-pat program of the
 Liberals).  The Alliance is essentially a carbon copy of the
 Republican Party in the US, except slightly to the right thereof.
 Rather scary -- pro-death penalty, anti-abortion, religion in the
 schools, etc.  The leader was formerly the principle of a religious
 fundamental school that taught creationism and labelled Jews as
 genetically evil etc.  Their appeal is primarily a reaction to the
 corruption and arrogence of the Liberals who though elected from a
 moderate liberal/social democratic platform, have consistently
 governed from a neo-liberal right position.  The difference in the
 party platforms between the Liberals and the Alliance is quite
 minimal.

 Paul Phillips,
 Economics,
 University of Manitoba





Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.

Michael,
   Would be better than a lot.  So might
Russ Feingold.
Barkley Rosser
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Wellstone?

"J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." wrote:

 Michael,
I agree.  But, who would have done better aside
 from Clinton himself?

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RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Lisa Ian Murray

MP
 who is he.  Where did this appear?
 Lisa  Ian Murray wrote:



David Ellerman is tucked away working on firm governance issues in Eastern
Europe for the WB. He also worked closely with Stiglitz when he was there.

The quote comes from "Intellectual Trespassing as a Way of Life" [p.
27--still in print and a great read BTW]. He's also the author of a few
other books, the most interesting of which is "Property and Contract in
Economics"

Ian








Re: RE: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Brad DeLong

BDLYou think that Nader's 3% showing is impressive?
**

I don't know;

So in other words, you don't.




Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Brad DeLong

  Every member of Clinton's cabinet, including Rubin, advised he veto
the welfare bill. Only Gore  Dick Morris urged him to sign it.

Doug

I've heard this a bunch of times. But what's the ultimate source?


  Brad DeLong

Thanks...

Brad DeLong




RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-09 Thread Lisa Ian Murray





 BDLYou think that Nader's 3% showing is impressive?
 **
 
 I don't know;

 So in other words, you don't.
**
Thank you God for collapsing the unpredictability of the future with your
unsurpassable foreknowledge of 21st century political-economic history. I
realize your programming me for undecidability/ignorance/free will was
needed to alleviate your insecurity that anyone may have notions that they
could experience the world in any way incommensurable with your divine
epistemology.

Ian




Stop the name calling

2000-11-08 Thread Michael Perelman

Brad,

There's no place here for calling people incompetent.  I voted for
Nader.  I would not have changed my vote even if it could've been
decisive for electing Gore.  I believe in the cold shower.  You don't.
That's no reason to be nasty toward other people.

And I'm not looking forward to four years of Bush.  Everybody accepts
that practically anybody -- or maybe not Charles Manson, bue he was
ineligible -- could have done a better job than Gore did.  Here in Chico
for Nader visit helped found three of four liberals to win on City
Council.

How could a decent Democratic candidate not win with the economy going
relatively well and no big international problems against such an inept
rival?

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Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

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Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-08 Thread Carrol Cox



Michael Perelman wrote:

 How could a decent Democratic candidate not win with the economy going
 relatively well and no big international problems against such an inept
 rival?

The left simply has to wean itself from *any* attraction to the Democratic
Party. I wouldn't vote for myself on a Democratic Party list. Or Wellstone.
I didn't vote for McGovern in '72. I didn't vote for Humphrey in '68. I
didn't know any better from 1952 through 1964 so those votes for Stevenson,
Kennedy, and Johnson (all war criminals) don't count. We need some
consistency in the left on accepting nothing less than a mass social
movement. Anything less is just playpen politics that affects nothing.

Carrol




Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-08 Thread Justin Schwartz


Manson is a convicted felon, so he can't vote. But the constitutional 
qualifications for the Presidency are quite clear: you have to be 35 and 
born in this country. I am pretty sure Manson meets these qualifications. 
His ineligibility for the ballot does not mean he couldn't be a candidate. 
And he _is_ supposed to be charismatic . . .

--jks

From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Brad,

There's no place here for calling people incompetent.  I voted for
Nader.  I would not have changed my vote even if it could've been
decisive for electing Gore.  I believe in the cold shower.  You don't.
That's no reason to be nasty toward other people.

And I'm not looking forward to four years of Bush.  Everybody accepts
that practically anybody -- or maybe not Charles Manson, bue he was
ineligible -- could have done a better job than Gore did.  Here in Chico
for Nader visit helped found three of four liberals to win on City
Council.

How could a decent Democratic candidate not win with the economy going
relatively well and no big international problems against such an inept
rival?

--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: Re: Stop the name calling

2000-11-08 Thread Michael Perelman

Gene Debs ran as a felon.

Justin Schwartz wrote:

 Manson is a convicted felon, so he can't vote. But the constitutional
 qualifications for the Presidency are quite clear: you have to be 35 and
 born in this country. I am pretty sure Manson meets these qualifications.
 His ineligibility for the ballot does not mean he couldn't be a candidate.
 And he _is_ supposed to be charismatic . . .

 --jks

 From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: [PEN-L:4131] Stop the name calling
 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 08:45:57 -0800
 
 Brad,
 
 There's no place here for calling people incompetent.  I voted for
 Nader.  I would not have changed my vote even if it could've been
 decisive for electing Gore.  I believe in the cold shower.  You don't.
 That's no reason to be nasty toward other people.
 
 And I'm not looking forward to four years of Bush.  Everybody accepts
 that practically anybody -- or maybe not Charles Manson, bue he was
 ineligible -- could have done a better job than Gore did.  Here in Chico
 for Nader visit helped found three of four liberals to win on City
 Council.
 
 How could a decent Democratic candidate not win with the economy going
 relatively well and no big international problems against such an inept
 rival?
 
 --
 
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 Economics Department
 California State University
 Chico, CA 95929
 
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