Re: [pgadmin-hackers] wx status
Yes, I'd like to get that one sorted. Anyone wanna post me an iBook to play with? :-) Dear Dave, No need to buy an iBook. You can use the http://pearpc.sourceforge.net PowerPC emulator under GNU/Linux. Or wait for QEMU PowerPC support end of this month. By the way, for other testings under x86, you can visit http://www.freeoszoo.org and download a QEMU installer. Enjoy! Kind regards, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] [pgadmin-support] pgAdmin3 doesn't work after
Le jeudi 10 Juin 2004 19:12, Adam H. Pendleton a écrit : Did you use a binary package of wxWidgets or did you re-build that package on FC2 before you build pgAdmin3? Dear Adam, Did you try building wx RPMs using the wx custom script? Last time I used the script (nearly one year ago, a decade in computing!), the script was of good quality. This is quite a pitty that they do not release RPMs more often. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[pgadmin-hackers] RPM packages news and questions
Other people reported that packages for mandrake 8.2 were running well on Suse 9.0. Please, try them before trying a (long) rebuild. BTW you can find SRPMS for wxwindows^H^H^HWidgets here: http://pgadmin.postgresql.org/snapshots/wxwindows/SRPMS/ Dear friends, Some news about building RPMs for pgAdmin III: I am now using Qemu, the free-sofware equivalent of VMware (in fact Qemu is much more as it will soon emulate a PPC suitable for MacOsX). Qemu is becoming usable very quickly and offers 25% speed of a native system, which is fairly enough to build RPMs. From my point of view, the following platforms (possibly with the help of other packagers, any help welcome) should be targeted: - Fefora Core 2 - Fefora Core 1 - RedHat 9 - Mandrake 10 final edition - Mandrake 9.2 - Mandrake 9.1 - SuSE 9.1 - SuSE 9.0 - SuSE 8.2 Do you need other platforms? Will we need to release a set of wxWhatever RPMs? Are we still building staticly (I would prefer to avoid conflicts with possible wxAnything packages provided with recent distros, if any)? ( Looking back, it may have been a better choice to choose a plain Gtk2 + gtkmm framework. At least, pgAdmin III would now run under Win32, GNU/Linux and MacOsX without problem. Just my 0.02 euros). Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Smoother PostgreSQL icons
Le dimanche 25 Avril 2004 19:30, Andreas Pflug a écrit : These images look better on a white background, unfortunately on a colored background (e.g. win32 desktop) the smoothing algorithm causes an ugly white edge. This problem was the reason why I made them full-color. With smoothing, a gradual transparency would be needed, I believe icons can't do that. Any idea? Dear Andreas, Nice and good looking icons. Maybe you can apply a gray smoothing in the background. To achieve this, you can duplicate the layer, apply gaussian blur, make it 20% transparent and move the resulting layer to the background. As I do not run MS Windows, I cannot garantee results under Win32, just a thought... Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Translation Tables for Current and Website
Le dimanche 11 Avril 2004 22:39, Serguei Mokhov a écrit : It would be cool to have two more translation status tables at [1]. One for the current dev. version of pgAgmin, and the other one for the website. Agreed. I just wanted to move on with the website translation, but [1] only has a link to the pgadmin3_website.pot ... thus, to continue existing translation I need to pull the CVS, which I can't do all the time depending where I am. The existing po files for the website can be downloaded from: http://developer.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/locale From there, you can download the pot and po files, updated from CVS. The idea is similar to what Peter E. did in [2]. As a quick fix, one could simply provide nearly direct links to the web interface to CVS. Peter website is very nice and well designed. Cheers, Jean-Michel Pouré ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
[pgadmin-hackers] On-line demonstration
Dear all, What about adding this very small banner on the web site: !-- Online demo FFII -- a href=http://demo.ffii.org/; img src=http://demo.ffii.org/banner.php?i=1; border=0 alt=NO to software patents - come to brussels on 14 april height=60 width=468 / /a Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Protest against software patents
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yes, I do mind. What proff do you have of these 'covert' actions? Dear Dave, No, I am not a secret agent of the FFII :) The protest is organized by the FFII: http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/Demo14and15april I intended to protest in Brussels myself, but as my wife is pregnant I have to stay home with her. The baby is nearly coming. My personal opinion is that if we do not fight for our liberties, even if our action is insignificant, we will one day stop to be free. Liberty is not here forever. Just my ¤ 0.02. So, about this homepage question, do we set up a potest homepage or not? If you do not like the idea because pgAdmin is hosted by your company, I can understand that. Not problem. By the way, the Queen is visiting France this week. She speaks French nearly fluently. The media seem to like her very much. Cheers, Jean-Michel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAc8dOextoHHj2YFMRAg22AKCWZoqFu5UoDjoSB61d8eLp6KMfeACgzImE SZ23s3CKomfBE91T8fZbKeU= =9QYz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Protest against software patents
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le mercredi 7 Avril 2004 15:35, Dave Page a écrit : OK, but let's not use the wording on the example site you gave - try something a little less inflammatory than accusations of 'covert' actions etc. Please post your proposal for us to review before it goes live... OK, I understand now. Don't have time right now, will post the text tonight. Cheers, Jean-Michel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAdARgextoHHj2YFMRAo33AJ49GyxYPbs4BcwKW1OfTJeEYCjA1QCfZjW9 3mO7J9xu3AVMBAApdG4SVts= =pggN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] developer.pgadmin.org down
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le mardi 6 Avril 2004 09:23, Dave Page a écrit : Looks OK from here: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# uptime 07:21:56 up 4 days, 17:48, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 OK, I connected with SSH: ps -A | grep httpd Apache is not running. Cheers, Jean-Michel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAcmPAextoHHj2YFMRAh2UAJ9++9Bf+MhmUFrNOT7ZTyeVjiHWhQCfe3v1 8XtDxoLgM4RIzdk7LoepzFw= =4tkf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
[pgadmin-hackers] Protest against software patents
Dear friends, Do you mind if we add this homepage on pgAdmin website: http://gambas.sourceforge.net (I mean a similar page). By the way, Gambas is an incredible Basic environment for GNU/Linux. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
[pgadmin-hackers] Feedback about registration of pgAdmin of Freeware/Shareware sites
Dear friends, Some feedback about the registration of pgAdmin III on freeware/shareware sites: 1) Visibility pgAdmin was registered manualy on 60 sites. Thanks to the PAD file (http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/cnt/pgadmin3.xml), pgAdmin is slowly being published on shareware sites automatically. Examples: http://www.fileheaven.com/pgAdmin-III-for-PostgreSQL/download/12418.htm http://downloads.verzamelgids.nl/ etc... As a result, if you connect to Google and enter 'pgadmin', you can notice 49 pages of answers. 2) Impact The impact of shareware sites is not clear. Very few of them publish downloading statistics. Only the most interesting sites publish information. Example: http://telecharger.01net.com/windows/Programmation/base_de_donne/fiches/28430.html 50 downloads / week 3) Strategy These figures are relatively low compared to the impact of the inclusion of pgAdmin III in Debian or in the main GNU/Linux distributions. We should be looking very hard in these directions... (they have millions of users). Still, if you visit a freeware / shareware site with good downloading statistics, do not hesitate to register pgAdmin III. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
[pgadmin-hackers] Compilation farm status
Dear all, Some news about pgAdmin RPM packages... Thanks to Qemu (http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu), I am now able to run virtual PCs installed with various GNU/Linux systems (starting with SuSE 8.2, Mandrake 9.1 and RedHat 9.0). Qemu is able to compile pgAdmin III in two hours. The first SuSE 8.2 packages are being uploaded to pgAdmin web site. Other packages will follow. If you are interested in Qemu, I published a gallery of images there: http://www.morphix.org/modules/xoopsgallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album31page=1 Also, I try to test and install various OSs, with a summary on this wiki: http://am.xs4all.nl/phpwiki/index.php/Qemu Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] wxWidgets?
There was harsh discussion about the openness of that project, and I wasn't the quitest about that. I suggested to rename to wxJulian, but he decided to use wxWidgets(Yes this doesn't read as 'the community elected that name') wxWidget is part of the secret code which allows the Queen to buy a hot pizza and get it delivered by 007 in person. The first w means small, the second W means hot pizza. wxJulian is already the code which triggers the lauch of nuclear missiles. By not choosing it, Julian saved the world and we should be greateful to him. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Feedback from users
Le Mercredi 11 Février 2004 16:53, Ângelo Marcos Rigo a écrit : I am just passing some features request from some users here in Brasil. Dear Ângelo, pgDesigner is a very promissing application to design PostgreSQL tables: http://www.hardgeus.com/projects/pgdesigner/ Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html
[pgadmin-hackers] PAD file
Dear all, Just a reminder for pgAdmin III next release : according to http://www.padspec.org/padfaq.php, the PAD file should be included in the software zip file. Also, I am currenty submitting pgAdmin PAD file to http://www.asp-shareware.org/pad/addpad.asp Currently, MSSQL Server returns an error code: one of the field is too long and may be truncated. I have to check the lengh of each description. After submission, the PAD will be updated automatically every two weeks or so. Will drop an email when done. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin III description in PAD file
Le Mardi 10 Février 2004 16:55, Dave Page a écrit : 'centre' please. I speak the Queen's English, not American :-) I did not realiZe it, but let's go for pounds and inches. :) ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin III description in PAD file
Le Mardi 10 Février 2004 16:55, Dave Page a écrit : - Not sure about: PostgreSQL free administration interface. What about PostgreSQL administration and development centre? Dear Dave, Andreas and all, I commited the proposed changes to CVS. Can we validate the following text: Char_Desc_45 Administration Centre for PostgreSQL /Char_Desc_45 Char_Desc_80 Administration Centre for the PostgreSQL database, free for any use /Char_Desc_80 Char_Desc_250 Administration Centre for the PostgreSQL database, free for any use. Includes a graphical administration interface, an SQL query tool, a procedural code editor and much more. Designed to answer the needs of all users. /Char_Desc_250 Char_Desc_450 Administration Centre for the PostgreSQL database, free for any use. Includes a graphical administration interface, an SQL query tool, a procedural code editor and much more. br/pgAdmin III is designed to answer the needs of all users, from writing simple SQL queries to developing complex databases. Available in more than 30 languages and for several operating systems. /Char_Desc_450 Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] website translation..
Le Vendredi 6 Février 2004 09:46, andrej misovic a écrit : I want to translate web into my lang, but I can't find .po file with the original strings.., should me send a link? have a nice day! Thanks for your help. The link is: http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/locale/pgadmin3_website.pot Cheers, JM ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Automatic registration on Downloading sites
Le Vendredi 6 Février 2004 11:52, Andreas Pflug a écrit : Probably no problem, I can't recall any W2K+ specific calls. And what about Unicode? Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[pgadmin-hackers] Automatic registration on Downloading sites using a PAD file
Dear friends, Just a quick note to say that a common XML standard, called PAD format, enables automatic registration/updates on downloading sites. The specifications of PAD can be found here: http://www.asp-shareware.org/pad If you enter pgadmin on http://www.asp-shareware.org/pad/padlib.asp and click Search, you will find EMS PostgreSQL Manager. Smart, hum? Now, enter mysql and postgresql... Thanks to PAD, it should be easy to spead pgAdmin III on downloading sites. A preview of pgAdmin III PAD file can be found here: http://pgadmin.postgresql.org/pgadmin3/cnt/pgadmin3.xml There are a very few obligations: one of them is that it is required to point directly to installer files (.zip), which means in our case choose the most five largest mirrors in the PostgreSQL list. By the way, the PAD file includes language information. So, if all of you could update the web site translation from the translation page, this would be a big plus. The links: http://developer.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/locale/af_ZA/LC_MESSAGES/pgadmin3_website.po http://developer.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/locale/de_DE/LC_MESSAGES/pgadmin3_website.po http://developer.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/locale/es_ES/LC_MESSAGES/pgadmin3_website.po http://developer.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/locale/fa_IR/LC_MESSAGES/pgadmin3_website.po http://developer.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/locale/id_ID/LC_MESSAGES/pgadmin3_website.po http://developer.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/locale/ja_JP/LC_MESSAGES/pgadmin3_website.po http://developer.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/locale/ru_RU/LC_MESSAGES/pgadmin3_website.po http://developer.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/locale/tr_TR/LC_MESSAGES/pgadmin3_website.po http://developer.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/pgadmin3_website.po http://developer.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/pgadmin3_website.po Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Automatic registration on Downloading sites using a PAD file
Le Jeudi 5 Février 2004 22:50, Andreas Pflug a écrit : Two things I noticed: - It's powerfuL, not ..fuLL (is there more Dave?) - missing keyword: pgadmin pgadmin3, maybe also pg-admin Thanks. I also updated the .pot file. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
[pgadmin-hackers] Licence disclaimer
Dear all, I added a disclaimer in the licence: http://developer.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/cnt/licence.txt Can we agree on these modifications? Cheers, Jean-Michel ** An updated licence agreement can be downloaded from http://pgadmin.postgresql.org/pgadmin3/cnt/licence.txt Last update: Friday 6 February 2004 BY INSTALLING OR DISTRIBUTING PGADMIN SOFTWARE, YOU AGREE WITH THE FOLLOWING DISCLAIMER: BECAUSE PGADMIN IS FREE SOFTWARE MOSTLY DEVELOPED AS A HOBBY DURING SPARE TIME, IT WAS NOT FULLY TESTED AND THUS MAY CONTAIN BUGS OR OTHER DAMAGING PROGRAMS. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. TO THE EXTENT OF APPLICABLE LAW, PGADMIN TEAM MEMBERS, PROGRAMMERS AND WEB SITES DISTRIBUTING PGADMIN CANNOT BE HELD LIABLE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES FOR DAMAGE TO HARDWARE OR SOFTWARE, LOST DATA, OR OTHER DIRECT OR INDIRECT DAMAGE RESULTING FROM THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE - IN COUNTRIES WHERE THIS CLAUSE CANNOT APPLY, PGADMIN MEMBERS, PROGRAMMERS AND WEB SITES DISTRIBUTING PGADMIN CANNOT BE HELD LIABLE FOR MORE THAN ONE EURO FOR THE TOTAL DOMAGE. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THESE CONDITIONS, YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO USE OR FURTHER DISTRIBUTE THIS SOFTWARE. Then the Artistic text... ** ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
[pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin installer name under Windows
Dear Dave, Given the large number of sites where pgAdmin will be registered, it would be better to provide the latest pgadmin installer for Windows under the same name (=no versioning). Some sites recommend this. Example: pgadmin3.zip (or whatever). This shall not stop us from also providing the normal installer pgadmin3-1_0_2.zip What do you think? Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin installer name under Windows
Le Mercredi 4 Février 2004 11:03, Dave Page a écrit : No problem, just add a symlink to the current version. Interesting. After replication, do FTP servers support simlinks? We should try to see what happens. Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
[pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin web site issues
Dear friends, Just a quick note about the latest modifications on the web site: 1) On the download page, packages are now presented by distribution (Debian, Slackware, etc...) with direct access from the menu. Some sites require this feature to simplify dowloads. 2) Short description of pgAdmin on the homepage. This description is also available in the Advocacy page. Any comments are welcome. Do not update the translation yet. The impact of changes is very minimal (30 strings). We need to validate the changes first... Next week, I would like to propose an updated design: - unique navigation bar on the left (like Raphaël proposed), - more simple layout without indent (this will ease reading and RTL). Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin3 in BSD ports...
Le Mardi 3 Février 2004 12:37, Dave Page a écrit : Did anyone know pgAdmin 3 was in the BSD ports collection? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/databases/pgadmin3/ What wxGTK2 version are they using? Andreas patched version? Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
[pgadmin-hackers] Web site in Afrikaans and Spanish
Dear Friends, Just a quick note to thank the new pgAdmin web translators: Petri Jooste (Afrikaans) and Miguel González Castaños (Spanish). The Afrikaans translation will be available after sync. Best regards, Jean-Michel Pouré ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
[pgadmin-hackers] Avaibility dates of Windows and MacOsX versions
Dear friends, For information, do some of you have any idea of a planned avaibility of the PostgreSQL server Windows port (a simple guess would suffice, I know there are no central planning except Bruce tracking page and the hacker list). Also, do you know if the next stable release of wxGTK-2.5.1 will be able to compile in Unicode mode under MacOsX 10.3? is there a chance to see pgAdmin III running under MacOsX 10.3 soon? Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[pgadmin-hackers] Downloading mirrors
Dear Dave and all, Are downloading mirrors down? http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/download.php Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
[pgadmin-hackers] PostgreSQL installation CD based on Morphix
Dear friends, In the past, there were several discussions in order to find suitable answers for MS Windows users willing to install and run PostgreSQL. Some of you suggested that users should install GNU/Linux over Windows. Not so easy for the basic MySQL or Ms Windows user, who need technical assistance ... and fear to destroy their machine. Therefore, I would like to draw some attention on the Morphix CD project from http://sourceforge.net/projects/morphix. Morphix is an auto-bootable Debian GNU/Linux distribution based on Knoppix. What makes Morphix different is that the project has several graphical installers and wizards in preparation (written in plain C, using GTK-2 libraries and Glade-2) ... which could possibly be used to install GNU/Linux and PostgreSQL tools over MS Windows. You can download a preview CD of Morphix from this address: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/morphix/MorphixCombined-Gnome-0.4-1.iso?download Except for the installer itself, the wizards are not yet available in the main Morphix CD. To have a look at them, you will need to checkout from CVS (http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/morphix) and open the files in Glade-2. I also made some screenshots here: - morphixinstaller: once Morphix has booted in demo mode, you can use this wizard to install Morphix on the disk. Screenshots: http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step1.png http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step2.png http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step3.png http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step4.png http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step5.png http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step6.png http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/morphix_installer_step7.png - isomorphgui: graphical distribution maker (select the requested packages for your distribution and burn the ISO). Screenshots: http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/iso_morph_gui_1.png http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/iso_morph_gui_2.png - partitionmorpher: resize partitions on the fly (GTK-2 interface to libparted). Screenshots: http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/partition_morpher_1.png http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/morphix/partition_morpher_2.png IMHO opinion, there is a need to study the Morphix project in more details. Morphix could be a possible solution to the MS Windows migration problems. It probably involves 50 times less work than migrating PostgreSQL to MS Windows (and is a complete different project except for the fact that it could well bring as much new users to PostgreSQL than a native Win port and is less risky). The possible steps for such a project could be (just a guess): 1) Validate Morphixinstaller, isomorphgui and partitionmorpher wizards. These wizards are still in early stages of development. They are developed by one person, who would probably like to receive some help. 2) Create a wizard for PostgreSQL post-installation steps using GTK-2 and Glade-2: configuration of hosts and authentication, tuning and optimization of various parameters (Mainly a graphical interface to pg_hba.conf and postgresql.conf). 3) Gather all known PostgreSQL related Debian packages, including pgAdmin III, PhpPgAdmin, as well as PHP, Apache and report tools (and much more) and burn Morphix-PostgreSQL CDs. There could be a light PostgreSQL CD as well as a complete PostgreSQL CD. 4) Create a single website in 30 languages (http://installer.postgresql.org?) dedicated to releasing the installation CD. Based on the pgAdmin experience, there could well be more than 50.000 downloads every month, out of which 70% would be migrating from MS Windows to GNU/Linux. Comments and ideas are welcome. I would like to help anyone interested in becoming the lead of such a project. Best regards, Jean-Michel Pouré ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Connecting to cvs.pgadmin.org
Le Mardi 20 Janvier 2004 09:20, Dave Page a écrit : Dodgy CVSROOT in one directory - fixed now. Is it supposed to be in a different font btw? Thanks, I am checking the font... Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
[pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin web site reaching one million hits in December
Dear friends, Just a quick note to indicate that pgAdmin III website reached one million hits in December 2003. More statistics can be viewed on: http://www.pgadmin.org/stats/webalizer To my surprise, 25 percents of hits came from the Russian Federation. Are there specific PostgreSQL events in the Russian Federation explaining this figure? Do you have any idea Sergei? This may help us understand how to promote PostgreSQL and pgAdmin. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
[pgadmin-hackers] Connecting to cvs.pgadmin.org
Dear Dave and all, pgAdmin.org has a DNS problem... The secondary DNS record of pgadmin.org is pointing to ZoneEdit.com. But it does not work as exprected. I re-connected to ZoneEdit to ask that pgadmin.org account be a secondary DNS. Now that pgAdmin master DNS is down tonight, the secondary DNS is pointing to a casino. I hope everything will be back to normal tomorrow. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin3 tl_PH translation (Partial)
Le Mardi 09 Décembre 2003 08:14, Howard Bagcat a écrit : Attached are the .mo and .po tl_PH translation files. The said translation is on its partial stage. Dear Howard, Thank you very much for your partial delivery. It was published to CVS. For information, does Tagalog happen to be close to English? I noticed some translations like Save as... remained in English. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Lithuanian translation files
Le Mardi 09 Décembre 2003 08:32, linas jankauskas a écrit : Please find attached two files for a lithuanian translation. I hope to finish this until the end of week, but you must notice, that not all SQL terms can be translated to lithuanian without losing of its meaning. F.E. all of my colleagues knows, what View means, but nobody recognizes this term, if it's translated. This is the same problem, which I have observed in Latvian translation progress. Thank you very much for this partial delivery. It was published to CVS today. Translating SQL software is always a very special case. Because users need to be able to write the SQL queries themselves, it is recommanded to preserve words like View, Triggers, etc... unless the word in your language is quite close or widely accepted. For example, in French, I kept Vue for View. On the converse, I kept the English word for Trigger. About shortcuts: the recommanded way is to keep the same shortcut letters, otherwise drop them (unless you test them in the application, but you will never be sure not to break something somewhere). Regards... Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
[pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin3 connection problem
Le Samedi 06 Décembre 2003 17:53, Ossama Khayat a écrit : pg_hba.conf Dear Ossama, Sorry for the delay. 1) Make sure that the two files pg_hba.conf and postgresql.conf were saved under postgres user names, not root. Also, after modifying each setting, run /etc/init.d/postgresql restart. 2) For debugging connection, the original setting in pg_hba.conf is better: local all all trust hostall all 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255 trust Then, try to connect under postgresql user using a trusted connection. It should work, otherwise we have a big problem. 3) Ultimately, turn PostgreSQL server logging on to see what happens. In postgresql.conf, under user postgres, turn: syslog = 2 silent_mode = false log_connections = true This will write connection information to /var/log/messages On my system: Dec 7 10:27:15 station postgres[3746]: [2-1] LOG: connection received: host=127.0.0.1 port=32830 Dec 7 10:27:15 station postgres[3746]: [3-1] LOG: connection authorized: user=postgres database=template1 Dec 7 10:27:16 station postgres[3748]: [2-1] LOG: connection received: host=127.0.0.1 port=32831 Dec 7 10:27:16 station postgres[3748]: [3-1] LOG: connection authorized: user=postgres database= This will give us the required information. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] help with translation..
so if you can, you should write me short explanation of trigger, and cast.. Dear Andrej, Translating words which belong to the SQL syntax is always hard. The words Trigger and Cast are part of the SQL syntax CREATE CAST and CREATE TRIGGER. Unless there is a clear and usual translation for these words in your language (it is not the case in French), it is recommanded to keep the English words Trigger and Cast, so that users can remember the SQL syntax. cast = type conversion from one type to another See http://developer.postgresql.org/docs/postgres/sql-createcast.html trigger = action running upon modification/deletion/creation of a row See http://developer.postgresql.org/docs/postgres/sql-createtrigger.html Do not hesitate to send me the detailed list of your questions and I will try to answer them. Dear Linas: are you still working on the Lithuanian translation, shall we keep your name on the registered list? Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Website RTL support
Le Mardi 02 Décembre 2003 18:40, Ossama Khayat a écrit : I tried that before, and now again. It gives: Connection refused. Still, if i use: psql test it logs me in. Dear Ossama, Can you send me your /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_hba.conf and /var/lib/pgsql/data/ postgresql.conf. Then, we can discuss using instant messaging... Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Website RTL support
Le Lundi 01 Décembre 2003 23:53, Ossama Khayat a écrit : You should remove all occurences of 'unicode-bidi: bidi-override', because it makes _all_ text appear from RTL which is wrong. As you see, even English text (LTR) is displayed as RTL and it's totally wrong. Using the 'direction: rtl' is enough. Dear Ossama and Abbas, I brooded this over during the night and came to the same conclusion... The lang tag should be defined to 'en' for English text and 'fa' for Persian. Direction:rtl makes it for RTL languages, not English. Andreas and Dave: Ossama nearly completed the Arabic translation. That's a very good news for pgAdmin!!! Now, Ossama needs support as he cannot connect to the server locally with pgAdmin3, only with pgsql which works well. We modified the postgresql.conf and pg_hba.conf entries, nothing happens. sknaht ! Bye, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
[pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin3 orphaned translations
Dear pgAdmin translators, We would be very happy to receive news the following on-going translations: ca_ES Catalan de_CH German (Switzerland) gu_IN Gujarati hi_IN Hindi is_IS Icelandic lt_LT Lithuanian sd_IN Sindhi te_IN Telugu tl_PH Filipino/Tagalog uk_UA Ukrainian ur_PK Urdu vi_VN Vietnamese In the next days, we will update the list of translations in progress. http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/translation.php If you wish to keep your name registered on this page, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a planned delivery date and a partial delivery. Otherwise, we will remove your name within the next two days to allow other translators to register. Do not hesitate to contact us for any question regarding terminology, pgAdmin strings or poEdit. We will do our best to support you during the translation process. Best regards, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
[pgadmin-hackers] Website RTL support
Dear Abbas, After our last discussion, I implemented RTL support on the Web site. This will allow you to read the Persian translation in the right direction! It may also be used for Arabic display too... There is now a seperate CSS style sheet for RTL languages, which was modified in consequence. I did not find any easier way to arrive to a result. There are still problems when mixing English and Persian text together. For example, the Translation page is broken (in Persian only). But there may be here and there other problems. When you have time, could you have a quick look at the site on http://www.pgadmin.org and report problems? Also, do you know any experienced developer with good knowledge in RTL support. This would help, I am a little bit lost with dual-text display (translated and non-translated). A copy of this email is being sent to Ossama Khayat [EMAIL PROTECTED] in case he can give some advice. Thanks for your help, Best regards, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin web site translated into 11 languages
Dear all, Sorry, I was busy with work and web site RTL and could not answer before. - A good short description is missing, just two sentences before Latest news starts. Feel free to submit anything. The interest of a short description is that it can be registered on search engines. - Change Log references CVS HEAD, while we should show the trunk's CHANGELOG.txt Does it mean we need two changelogs: one for stable, one for snapshots? - We should fix up pgAdmin3 naming. pgAdmin3 is just for internal use; for all public purposes we should stick to pgAdmin III rigorously. Unfortunately, this fix will break all translations. OK, but what happens when pgAdmin 3.1 comes along? Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin translation
Le Lundi 1 Décembre 2003 03:46, Ossama Khayat a écrit : The initial translation of the .po file downloaded from http://www.pgadmin.org/cvsroot/pgadmin3/src/ui/ar_SA/pgadmin3.po is ready. I'll mail it privately and review the file for completeness today Insha'Allah. Dear Ossama. Thank you very much for pgAdmin III translation update into Arabic. Your name was added to the translator list for Arabic. This email is CCed to the previous translator Motaz Abuthiab (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Dear Motaz, do you agree to hand over the translation to Ossama? Maybe you can work together on further updates. I am writing you a seperate e-mail about technical questions asked. Best regards, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] pgadmin3 1.0.1 RPMS for FC1
Le Jeudi 27 Novembre 2003 18:25, Devrim GUNDUZ a écrit : Hi, I realized that we don't have RPMS built for FC1 on ftp repository. I've built them and uploaded to snake under /snapshots/linux/FC1/ Could someone please move them to FTP repository? Regards, Done. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html
[pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin web site translated into 11 languages
Dear friends, Just a short message to thank Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] for translating pgAdmin web site into Russian. His work can be previewed here: http://snake.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/index.php?locale=ru_RU For translating pgAdmin website into your national language, you only need to download and translate the following file: http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/locale/pgadmin3_website.pot If you have time, we would appreciate that you register pgAdmin web site in your country on search engines. Please use the address pointing at your language: English : http://www.pgadmin.org German: http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/index.php?locale=de_DE Farsi: http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/index.php?locale=fa_IR French: http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/index.php?locale=fr_FR Indonesian: http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/index.php?locale=id_ID German: http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/index.php?locale=de_DE Japanese : http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/index.php?locale=ja_JP Russian : http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/index.php?locale=ru_RU Turkish : http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/index.php?locale=tr_TR Simplified Chinese : http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/index.php?locale=zh_CN Traditional Chinese : http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/index.php?locale=zh_TW Having more users can help us attract more talented developers and will make sure that pgAdmin and PostgreSQL can live long a develop freely. Do not hesitate to help us! Best regards, Jean-Michel Pouré ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] [GENERAL] Open source data modeling tools for PostgreSQL
Le Jeudi 27 Novembre 2003 14:53, Horák Daniel a écrit : I am developing DataDesigner, which tries to be an open source, DB independent, modelling tool. You can look at http://www.danny.cz/datadesigner.en.html, SourceForge project is at http://sf.net/projects/dbdesign I think it could be useful to share at least ideas or code of pgdesigner (the schema screenshot looks very good) and my DataDesigner ;-) Dear Daniel, All this seems very interesting. Doors are wide open at pgAdmin for John and you to implement a powerfull data designer and distribute it in bundle with pgAdmin. Andreas and Dave have plans to release a pgAdmin suite including several applications (administration, designer, etc...). Each application would stay independant if needed. This way, we could reach a large number of potential users under GNU/Linux, Win32, FreeBSD and soon MacOSX, SunOS. If you are interested, please visit http://www.pgadmin.org. I cross-post pgAdmin mailing list in order to keep the address of your project in mind. Best regards, Jean-Michel Pouré ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Segfault on latest snapshot
Le Lundi 24 Novembre 2003 16:07, Devrim GUNDUZ a écrit : After rebuilding latest snapshot on FC1, I installed and run pgadmin3. I get a segfault while trying to add a user by right-clicking Users/New Object/New User. I have the same problem under Debian. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
[pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin3 packages for RedHat Fedora RC1
Dear friends, Just a quick note to say that Devrim is now building daily snapshots for Fedora RC1, the collaborative project from RedHat. After sync, the packages will be available in the Snashot section: http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/download.php#snapshots Thanks Devrim! Best regards, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Build errors on Fedora, latest snapshot
Le Dimanche 23 Novembre 2003 21:10, Adam H.Pendleton a écrit : Did you make any modifications to the source files before rebuilding? This happens when the configure script detects a change in the automake/autoconf files (or the source files I suppose) files, and tries to re-build them. Since configure is not distributed with the SRPM, this is the error you get. What should we do then, run bootstrap before configure? Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Problems compiling from CVS
Le Jeudi 20 Novembre 2003 20:28, John McCawley a écrit : At the time I was (and still am) working on a datamodeler for postgres (http://www.hardgeus.com/projects/pgdesigner/). At the time it was in FLTK but I became frustrated with the library, so I switched to wx. Dear John, Congratulations. wxDesigner seems to be marvelous. Do not hesitate to contact me for the translation of your application. If you wish, we could probably use the pgAdmin translation network: http://www.pgadmin.org/translation.php. Cheers, Jean-Michel Pouré ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
[pgadmin-hackers] ICQ Message from pgAdmin translator Devrim in Istambul
Dear Friends, Devrim contacted me several minutes ago on ICQ. Here is a copy of the chat message: * 10:58 (10:41:06) Devrim Gündüz: Five Explosions Rock Downtown Istanbul 1 minute ago. A new September 11... (10:59:51) Devrim Gündüz: It's impossible to tell what's going on here... Many dead bodies, 'body parts' around here * Devrim is OK. He was not hit. Jean-Michel Pouré ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] wxGTK2ud BuildRequires dependencies
Le Lundi 17 Novembre 2003 21:55, Raphaël Enrici a écrit : I think Adam is right regarding dependencies, it's not usefull (and can get you to mistake if packages change) to specify all these dependencies. FYI Debian's dependencies I use are these (I cut debian specific things) Build-Depends: libgtk2.0-dev, gcc, g++, libjpeg62-dev, libpng-dev ( 1.2.0) | libpng12-dev ( 1.2.0) | libpng2-dev , libtiff3g-dev Dear Adam, Raphaël, Andreas With your explanations, it seems that: - Build Time dependencies are quite limited, - We are going to stick to wxGTK2ud. So, I agree with you all. This is the power of the Internet, we can discuss and arrive to a solution pretty quickly. Thank! Adam: I am not very familiar with conditional statements in RPM specs. Could you give me an example of a conditional statement in an RPM spec? I will work out the dependencies for other systems. About Andreas patches: I hope that they will be integrated quite fast. I don't understand the logic behind all this. It seems unreal to keep a broken wxWindows for a long time. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] wxGTK2ud BuildRequires dependencies
Le Mardi 18 Novembre 2003 14:29, Adam H. Pendleton a écrit : This sounds quite ominous considering that we do exactly that: distribute a private port of wxWindows. Also, depending on the license they choose to distribute wxWindows under, could it cause problems with our product (i.e. GPL vs LGPL)? Dear Adam, I don't know. Probably not very important because the assignements are illegal in most European countries. The most important point to me is that assignments are being put on hold, not canceled. Which means that the members of the board are well-aware that the assignments are not valid in European law, but still refuse to cancel them. Why can't they simply cancel the assignments and propose new/modified ones in one week or more? Everyone would probably sign back. I am tired of all this. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] wxGTK2ud BuildRequires dependencies
Le Lundi 17 Novembre 2003 19:44, vous avez écrit : I realize it's a pain, but is it not possible to work the different sets of BuildRequires into the spec file, using distribution-dependent conditional statements? Yes, it is perfectly possible. But, there are so many-many build-time depencies in wxWindows. Listing them all is quite difficult. On the other hand, the upcoming stable version of wxWindows 2.5.1 will provide a new set of RPMs. These new RPMs are very well designed. They include both buildtime and binary dependencies. Personaly, I think it is a waste of time to invest in the wxGTK2ud direction when a new set of RPMs is coming along. If you think the converse, do not hesitate to submit a patch and I will apply it immediately. This is free software... You are free to do what you want... Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] wxGTK2ud BuildRequires dependencies
Dear Adam, Really? Am I missing something, or would this line suffice (granted, this is the RH line, but...): BuildRequires: gtk2-devel, libjpeg-devel, libpng-devel, libtiff-devel A lot more. A least, expat-devel, pango-devel, zlib-devel, X11-foo-devel, iconv-devel, etc... See the list below. Under SuSE and Mandrake, many of these libraries have different naming schemes. Since RPMs have automatic binary dependencies, looking at the SRPM rebuild log is enough for me ... All libraries should display yes or sys. So are we going to be using the official wxWindows RPMs from now on? Are we going to run into any problems since we currently use a build of wxWindows that differs from the official build? wxGTK-2.5.1 stable official release is not out yet. No idea when it will be released. The next official wx release has very designed RPM build scripts. I modified the scripts very slightly here: http://snake.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/makerpm.new Cheers, Jean-Michel *** saving argument cache configarg.cache checking for toolkit... gtk checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... no checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for egrep... grep -E checking whether gcc needs -traditional... no checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++... no checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-c++... no checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gpp... no checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-aCC... no checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-CC... no checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-cxx... no checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-cc++... no checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-cl... no checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-FCC... no checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-KCC... no checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-RCC... no checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-xlC_r... no checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-xlC... no checking for g++... g++ checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-ranlib... no checking for ranlib... ranlib checking for ar... ar checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking for strip... strip checking if make is GNU make... yes checking whether ln -s works... yes checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for sys/types.h... yes checking for sys/stat.h... yes checking for stdlib.h... yes checking for string.h... yes checking for memory.h... yes checking for strings.h... yes checking for inttypes.h... yes checking for stdint.h... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking for strings.h... (cached) yes checking for stdlib.h... (cached) yes checking malloc.h usability... yes checking malloc.h presence... yes checking for malloc.h... yes checking for unistd.h... (cached) yes checking wchar.h usability... yes checking wchar.h presence... yes checking for wchar.h... yes checking fnmatch.h usability... yes checking fnmatch.h presence... yes checking for fnmatch.h... yes checking for fnmatch... yes checking langinfo.h usability... yes checking langinfo.h presence... yes checking for langinfo.h... yes checking X11/Xlib.h usability... yes checking X11/Xlib.h presence... yes checking for X11/Xlib.h... yes checking for X11/XKBlib.h... yes checking for an ANSI C-conforming const... yes checking for inline... inline checking for char... yes checking size of char... 1 checking for short... yes checking size of short... 2 checking for void *... yes checking size of void *... 4 checking for int... yes checking size of int... 4 checking for long... yes checking size of long... 4 checking for long long... yes checking size of long long... 8 checking size of wchar_t... 4 checking for _FILE_OFFSET_BITS value needed for large files... 64 checking if large file support is available... yes checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E checking iostream usability... yes checking iostream presence... yes checking for iostream... yes checking if C++ compiler supports bool... yes checking if C++ compiler supports the explicit keyword... yes checking whether the compiler supports const_cast... yes checking for glibc 2.1 or later... yes checking regex.h usability... yes checking regex.h presence... yes checking for regex.h... yes checking for regcomp... yes checking for zlib.h = 1.1.4... yes checking for zlib.h... (cached) yes checking for deflate in -lz... yes checking for png.h 0.90... yes checking for png.h... (cached) yes checking for png_check_sig in -lpng... yes checking for jpeglib.h... yes checking for jpeg_read_header in -ljpeg... yes checking tiffio.h usability... yes checking tiffio.h presence... yes checking for tiffio.h... yes
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] wxGTK2ud BuildRequires dependencies
Hi Adam, Thanks for your explainations. The gtk-devel seems convincing. But there are other libraries. Feel free to submit a patch and I will integrate it immediately. What do you mean by automatic binary dependencies? I thought that RPM dependencies were enforced by the Requires: line in the spec file. If you do not write any Requires: line, RPM does it for you automatically. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html
[pgadmin-hackers] wxGTK2ud BuildRequires dependencies
Dear Devrim, Finally, I commented out the BuildRequires dependencies for wxGTK2ud in CVS. It appears that library names needed at build time are not the same under RedHat, Mandrake and SuSE. So, my 'stupid' recommended way is: rpmbuild --rebuild wxGTK2ud-2.5-.src.rpm 21 | tee wxGTK2ud-2.5-.log and read the log to make sure all needed libraries display 'sys'. Do not hesitate to send me by email the wxGTK2ud (with 'sys' libraries) and pgAdmin3 (S)RPMs and I will publish them in a new Fedora section. Do not hesitate to sign your email with OpenPGP. By the way, would you be interested in releasing daily snapshots for Fedora? We always need help... Cheers, Jean-Michel -- Tel : +33(0)1 39 64 87 61 Mobile : +33 (0)6 76 88 60 29 Fax : +33(0)1 39 64 96 72 H323 phone : callto://translationforge.com ICQ 314352474 Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 38 bld de la République 95160 MONTMORENCY France GNUPG Key fingerprint = AD25 3E5A 0AED B4BE 730F 6BE7 7B1B 681C 78F6 6053 GNUPG Key = http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x78F66053 public_key.asc Description: application/pgp-keys ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] wxGTK2ud BuildRequires dependencies
Le Dimanche 16 Novembre 2003 12:52, Devrim GUNDUZ a écrit : So: I'll begin building tomorrow and send the URLs to you. I'm glad that I found another chance to contribute the project, after translation. Thanks. For sure, it is easier than sending an email. Cheers, J-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin 1.1.0
Le Vendredi 14 Novembre 2003 16:28, Lafriks a écrit : When it will be released? :) I just want to know how much time I have left to do Latvian translation :) Dear Lafriks, I have no idea when pgAdmin3 1.1 will be released. Nearly everyday, we try to publish binary snapshots from CVS. Whenever you deliver, your translations are publised in Snapshots immediately. The snapshots are available from: http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/download.php#snapshots Do not hesitate to deliver a first 'raw' Latvian translation. It will give you some time to correct the text and make an update later on. Best regards, Jean-Michel Pouré ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] I need your help - Vietnamese Translation
Le Jeudi 13 Novembre 2003 08:15, Ngoc Vu a écrit : I have the translated file produced by poEdit on Windows XP Professional, how can I test the translated file on Windows XP using PgAdmin III? I also have a Red Hat Linux machine. Dear Victor, Thanks! You can find information on the Translation page on pgAdmin web site. To view your translations, you can proceed as follows: 1) Download and install a pgAdmin3 snapshot which should be able to show Vietnamese in the language menu if the files are present. 2) Change directory to /usr/share/pgadmin3/ui (GNU/Linux) or C:\Progam Files \pgadmin3\ui (Windows). Create an empty vi_VN inside this directory. 3) Copy the pgadmin3.mo binary file to pgadmin3/ui/vi_VN. Keep your main translation project somewhere else. 4) Run pgAdmin3 and select Vietnamese from the language list. Otherwise, send me both pgadmin3.po and pgadmin3.mo files. Upon reception of the files, I will publish them in Snapshots and you can install the whole thing tomorrow. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] building pgadmin3 on rh7.3
Le Jeudi 6 Novembre 2003 09:41, Dave Page a écrit : Any ideas? Dear Andrew and Dave, The RPMs from pgAdmin web site were build under RedHat9 and include the latest binary depencies. You need a recent environment to install pgAdmin3 binaries. When building pgAdmin3 from SRPM source code, you also need a very recent environment. This issue must be cleared in the interest of everyone here, because you ar not the first person to ask for RedHat 9 packages :) In the following days, probably this week-end, I will try to add the needed build-time depencies in the SRPM. But then, it may well prove impossible to build under RedHat 9. Why? Because pgAdmin3 is based on the latest patched-version of wxWindows, which you can only get from CVS and that we package from time to time. Otherwise, pgAdmin3 would not be available at all. Hence, you will also need to install our latest wxWindows RPMs with pgAdmin patches. Therefore, you may well end up upgrading: - tens of dynamic libraries loaded at run-time by wxWindows. - build-time libraries for pgAdmin. I would be glad to see pgAdmin3 running under RedHat8. If you are interested (which I would call you are prepared to help us because this will be a lot of time for you), we can work together on this issue. This will probably result in RH8 packages being published on our site. Your choice. Best regards, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html
[pgadmin-hackers] Jean-Michel legal information on the Wiki
Dear all, I thought today about the possible legal consequences of me announcing by error that wxWindows was started in France when I meant wxWindows received contributions in France. Sorry for that. Therefore, I wrote more information on the wiki: http://wiki.wxwindows.org/wiki.pl?The_WxWindows_Foundation Most legal information is now there, always with my name 'Jean-Michel' in front of each question. Keep in mind that the information comes from me, not any lawyer. Therefore I always tried to answer with PROS and CONS. I now cross-post to pgAdmin web site in case of technical problem as I unregistered the main wx-dev discussion list and may not reach the wx team. Also, I would like to make public that I will never wage any legal dispute against any individual in the wx team. It seems pretty clear to me, I am doing my best to help and inform you. My only recommendations are: - create a foundation, - keep away from any assignment sent to the US. My role is now ending. Kindest regards, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Current CVS: Cursor disappears
Le Lundi 27 Octobre 2003 22:16, Troels Arvin a crit : Initially, a cursor is seen, but if focus is taken away from the window (e.g. by using the mouse or ALT-TAB) and then returned, the cursor is gone. I can still write charaters in the query window, but I have to guess where the characters will be put. If focus is once again taken away from and then returned to the query window, then the cursor re-appears. Dear Troels, I can confirm this STC problem as I have exactly the same problem under Debian and RedHat. Sometimes also, in the editor, after selecting text, the cursor becomes the following sign|_ (vertical and horizontal bar) and the display freezes. I have to open a seperate display and manually kill pgAdmin3. Nothing is written in the log. Did anyone notice this bug too? Best regards, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
[pgadmin-hackers] Cannot Add user
Dear friends, I am using the latest pgAdmin3 snapshot with PostgreSQL 7.4 beta 5 under Debian. Maybe this is not a recommanded configuration as pgAdmin3 was compiled against an old libpq and on my station libpq3 is installed. I cannot create a new user. The application crashes (reproducable). There is no special log. Can anyone reproduce the problem? Best regards, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Bug#217067: Impossible to display non-European languages
Dear Ron, If pgadmin does not work with an unpatched 2.6 then you are going to be in a world of pain wrt to distributing it in Debian (and probably the other distros too, though I can't speak for them). Of course. Please note that we never intended to get our patched version into Debian. My best recommendation would be that you get an idea (from wx-dev) of when people would like to see 2.6 frozen (the borland thing will surely be pushing this in ways the code alone might not mandate) and then work very hard to see that all your important patches are incorporated in one way or another before then. Borland is a company. PostgreSQL is a community. I hope you prefer PostgreSQL to Borland. Therefore, 2.6 cannot be frozen before it incorporates Andreas Pflug patches, which will probably be the case sooner or later. The bottom line basically is that either you guys will need to fork wx entirely and support your own version, or work to merge your branch with the mainstream before the stable release is made. We do not intend to fork wx and never will. Sorry, but as much as I'd love to help you guys get your app into the next Debian stable release, I just can't make the .debs a leverage point for patches that haven't been accepted into cvs yet. If you want them in the 2.6 debs, you're going to have to get them past the gauntlet of wx-dev first. Let's wait for wxWindows to manage Unicode and aother issues. All patches are available for inclusion into wx main branch: http://snake.pgadmin.org/snapshots/wxwindows/patches/ The goal of Debian is to be a world distribution. We all have the same goals: proper Unicode management, working Cut/Paste, etc... For example, work is being done by the wx team on RTL better support. Everyone is working in the same direction, there is no idea of a fork and we never intended so. But, only one thing : please, publish wx26, poEdit and pgAdmin3 in Debian at the same time. Everyone will benefit from it. Best regards, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
[pgadmin-hackers] Crash of the Option dialog
Dear friends, When opening the Option dialog, a warning message is displayed once every two openings (reproducable): /usr/include/wx/checkbox.h(70): assert !Is3State() failed: Calling IsChecked() doesn't make sense for a three state checkbox, Use Get3StateValue() instead Please find the log attached. Also, I don't understand why 2003-10-24 15:50:49 DEBUG : Mailcap file /etc/ mailcap, line 199: unknown field 'xmms '%s'' for the MIME type 'audio/mpeg' ignored. is in the log. Is this crash linked to a syslogd problem? Best regards, Jean-Michel 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : ## 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : # pgAdmin III Version 1.1.0 Devel Startup 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : ## 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Compiled with OpenSSL 0.9.7c 30 Sep 2003 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Creating a splash screen 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgIndexConstraint.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgAggregate.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgCast.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgCheck.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgColumn.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgConversion.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgDatabase.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgDomain.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgForeignKey.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgFunction.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgGroup.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgIndex.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/frmAddTableView.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgLanguage.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgOperator.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgRule.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgSchema.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgSequence.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgTable.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgTrigger.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgType.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgUser.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgView.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/frmMaintenance.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/frmConnect.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/frmExport.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgEditGridOptions.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/frmOptions.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/frmPassword.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/frmQBJoin.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgJob.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/frmStatus.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgSchedule.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/dlgStep.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Loading /usr/share/pgadmin3//ui/common/frmIndexcheck.xrc 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Using fontmetrics 9/18, 14 Point 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Native Description 'Bitstream Vera Sans 14' 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Draw size of 'M': w=13, h=18, descent 0, external lead 0. 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Draw size of 'g': w=9, h=18, descent 0, external lead 0. 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Draw size of 'Mg': w=22, h=18, descent 0, external lead 0. 2003-10-24 15:50:43 INFO : Creating a ctlSQLBox 2003-10-24 15:50:44 INFO : Creating a pgCollection object 2003-10-24 15:50:44 INFO : Reloading servers... 2003-10-24 15:50:44 INFO : Creating a pgServer object 2003-10-24 15:50:44 INFO : Creating a pgServer object 2003-10-24 15:50:44 INFO : Destroying a splash screen 2003-10-24 15:50:47 INFO : Creating an options dialogue 2003-10-24 15:50:49 DEBUG : Mailcap file /etc/mailcap, line 199: unknown field 'xmms '%s'' for the MIME type 'audio/mpeg' ignored. 2003-10-24 15:50:49 DEBUG : Mailcap file /etc/mailcap, line 200: unknown field 'xmms '%s'' for the MIME type 'audio/mpegurl' ignored. 2003-10-24 15:50:49 DEBUG : Mailcap file /etc/mailcap, line 201: unknown field 'xmms '%s'' for the
[pgadmin-hackers] Font display bug under wxGTK-2.5.1
Dear friends, Just to notice the wxGTK-2.5.1 font bug present in pgAdmin3 is also present in poEdit. You can see screenshots of today's latest installations: http://snake.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/screenshots/poedit-crop.png http://snake.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/screenshots/pgadmin-crop.png Do recent versions of wxWindows correct this problem? Best regards, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
[pgadmin-hackers] Migration from other database systems to PostgreSQL
Dear friends, Because PostgreSQL is a mature database, most new PostgreSQL users are certainly migrating from other systems (mainly Oracle, DB2, MySQL, MS SQL, etc...). So, if we offer solutions for migration, we can probably boost pgAdmin3. This is no news... At first, this could be only a migration of database schemas (tables, constraints, views, etc...). Not server-side languages like PL. In this context, I asked a question recently on hackers about the possibility to create custom data types in PostgreSQL mapping Oracle data types. For example, I asked if it was possible to mapp Oracle nvarchar2(lenght) to PostgreSQL varchar(lenght). The aswer is that it is not possible, because types like varchar(lenght) are hard coded into PostgreSQL parser. So, to date, the only solution to read an Oracle ASCII dump into PostgreSQL is to convert the data types manually. Search nvarchar2(lenght), Replace by varchar(lenght). No news ... now we come to the point. What if I added a Migration section on pgAdmin3 web site. At first, this section would only list type mappings for MySQL/Oracle/DB2/MS SQL with PostgreSQL types, as well as any information related to the migration of constraints, views and default values. In a (close?) future, this would allow pgAdmin3 to include a series of Regexp that would replace foreing data types with native PostgreSQL data types. What do you think? Best regards, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Migration from other database systems to PostgreSQL
Le Vendredi 24 Octobre 2003 17:04, Dave Page a écrit : I would like to allow some sort of source and target plugins with a mapping/scriptable transformation service in between, perhaps using embedded Python or Perl. I would call it Advanced advance :) How do you plan to connect to any database? Using which drivers? Is this why you mention ODBC? But ODBC has its own virtual types. Is it reliable? And not all Oracle database have ODBC (you must pay for it). Just for information, can you describe in more details? A good start might be to be able to read the dumps from Oracle, MySQL, DB2 and MsSQL. This would be a small revolution for PostgreSQL and would suit 90% needs of users. When this is achieved, and only then, you would go for more complex things. I feel (but I am only an average programmer as you know) that a series of regexp would suffice. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
[pgadmin-hackers] poEdit linked against latest wxGTK2.5 snapshots available for Debian
Dear friends, Raphaël successfully compiled poEdit against the latest wxGTK2.5 snapshot with Andreas PFLUG patches. Here are some (working) screenshots: - http://snake.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/screenshots/chinese.png - http://snake.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/screenshots/japanese.png - http://snake.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/screenshots/persian.png - http://snake.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/screenshots/russian.png To get it from pgAdmin repository (after sync tommorow): deb http://www.pgadmin.org/snapshots/linux/debian unstable pgadmin Enter: apt-get update; apt-get install pgadmin3-poedit I will try to update RedHat, Mandrake and SuSE packages too... hoping we can submit the packages back to Vaclav Slavik [EMAIL PROTECTED]. IMHO, poEdit has the best translation interface of all i18n softwares. It only lacks good Unicode support. Best regards, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
[pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin translation in progress (14 languages)
Dear friends and translators, pgAdmin3 is currently being translated into 14 new languages. If possible, we would like to receive news from your translation. As a reminder: - pgAdmin3 translation page: http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/translation.php - pgAdmin3 snapshots where your translations are publised immediately http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/download.php#snapshots We are highly motivated to help you on the project. Do not hesitate to get back to us for help. We need your contribution. So keep on the good work and continue translating... Best regards, Jean-Michel Pouré ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Cannot build latest CVS
Le Mercredi 22 Octobre 2003 14:27, Troels Arvin a crit : I'm using wxGTK2ud-2.5-20031010.3 from http://snake.pgadmin.org/snapshots/wxwindows/ I am currently compiling wxGTK2ud-2.5-20031010.4. Wait a few hours before everything is publised. Are you working days and nights on pgAdmin3? As you know RH packaging well, I would like to know how to disable stripping, which is RH default behavior. This will enable me to produce full debug RPMs. Any idea? Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Cannot build latest CVS
Le Mercredi 22 Octobre 2003 15:35, Troels Arvin a crit : %define __strip /bin/true Thanks, added to spec. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Debuging RPMs
Le Mardi 21 Octobre 2003 15:34, Adam H. Pendleton a écrit : When trying to debug the pgadmin3 exectuable that gets installed with the RPM (this is on RedHat), gdb reports that there are now debug symbols in the executable. Dear Adam, RH9 stips off debugging symbols by default. For consistency, I stripped Mandrake and Suse builds too using: strip --strip-debug %{buildroot}/%{_bindir}/%{name} Maybe I can unset the default stripping in RH and then remove this line. But will you be able to debug enough knowing that wxWindows is stripped too? This is a real problem. Tell me what I should do... Best regards, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
[pgadmin-hackers] wxWindows source tarball with patches
Hi Dave, If you plan to pack a patched tarball of wxWindows20031010, I would prefer the wxWindows-pgAdmin3-20031010.2.tar.bz2 numbering (20031010.2 like second release for 2001010) to unpack in wxWindows-pgAdmin3-20031010.2 folder. I integrated the previous patches in wxGTK2ud-2.5-20031010.1 RPMs. A new tarball would allow me to produce wxGTK2ud-2.5-20031010.2 RPMs. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
[pgadmin-hackers] RPM build problem
Dear friends, I got a RPM build problem in snapshots: checking for wxWindows... yes configure: error: you need to install the stc package from wxWindows/contrib/ src/stc error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.76395 (%build) RPM build errors: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.76395 (%build) Will send you the full configure log later. I am in a hurry. Of course, wx stc is installed. I am using wxWindows in monolithic mode. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] SSL detection bug is back under debian...
Le Jeudi 16 Octobre 2003 12:33, Raphal Enrici a crit : I can also provide one for you (I built it this morning). This was fast! I don't need SSL, it was just a bug report. Will update pgAdmin3 snapshot using apt-get later. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] XRC Editting
Le Mercredi 15 Octobre 2003 16:04, Dave Page a crit : We definately need something as there are at least 2 systems on which it doesn't work well. Three systems. See my screenshot under Debian here: http://snake.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/shot.png I contacted Raphal who does not have the same problem. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Maintenance release
Le Mardi 14 Octobre 2003 16:30, Dave Page a crit : OK, tarballs for Slackware, Windows and Source are on Snake. Kool. Could you create http://snake.pgadmin.org/ftp/release/SRPMS please to avoid duplicates. Thanks, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Maintenance release
Le Mardi 14 Octobre 2003 17:02, Dave Page a crit : Kool. Could you create http://snake.pgadmin.org/ftp/release/SRPMS please to avoid duplicates. Thanks, Jean-Michel Done. I don't have enough rights to upload the SRPM package there. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
[pgadmin-hackers] wxWindows 20031010 (S)RPMs available
Dear Zvone, The RPM packages for wxWindows 20031010 are available. You will be able to find the binaries on FTP as soon as it replicates, probably tuesday morning. Adam, maybe you would like to rebuild them under RedHat 9? Zvone, thanks for your offer to rebuild wxGTK under Suse 8.1. You can download the source package from http://snake.pgadmin.org/ftp/wxwindows/SRPMS/wxGTK2ud-2.5-20031010.src.rpm. To rebuild under Suse 8.1 download the file and enter: rpm --rebuild wxGTK2ud-2.5-20031010.src.rpm 21 | tee wxGTK2ud-2.5-20031010.log Read the log file and make sure the needed libraries are included in your system (if they are not, install them using the stock RPMs for your distro). For example, under RedHat 9, the log includes: ** Configured wxWindows 2.5.1 for `i686-pc-linux-gnu' Which GUI toolkit should wxWindows use? GTK Should wxWindows be compiled into single library? yes Should wxWindows be compiled in debug mode? yes Should wxWindows be linked as a shared library? no Should wxWindows be compiled in Unicode mode? yes What level of wxWindows compatibility should be enabled? wxWindows 2.2 no wxWindows 2.4 yes Which libraries should wxWindows use? jpeg sys pngsys regex sys tiff sys zlib sys odbc no expat sys libmspack no ** The absence of ODBC and limmspack is normal as ODBC is not supported in a Unicode build by default and limspack is brand new. Other libraries (jpeg, png, etc...) should have the 'sys' flag on. After rebuilding, the RPMs will be saved in /usr/src/packages/RPMS/i386 Then, drop me a mail and we will find a way to upload the RPMs to Snake in a SuSE81 directory. Best regards and many thanks for your help, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
[pgadmin-hackers] wxWindows directories merge on Snake
Dear friends, To avoid confusion, I did the following changes on Snake: 1) I moved my stuff into a http://snake.pgadmin.org/jean-michel directory. Do not use the RPMs in this directory, they are mostly ***not compatible*** with pgAdmin3. Actually, these RPMs do not even compile! 2) http://snake.pgadmin.org/wxwindows now lists all wxWindows-pgAdmin3-* tarballs and patches with comments. 3) As a result, I removed the empty http://snake.pgadmin.org/snapshots/wxWindows If there is a better solution, do not hesitate to apply it. Best regards, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
[pgadmin-hackers] pgAdmin3 snapshot
Dear all, Did anyone succeed in compiling pgAdmin3 today from CVS head, using http://snake.pgadmin.org/wxwindows/wxWindows-pgAdmin3-20031010.tar.bz2 (with minolitic option)? Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] wxWindows directories merge on Snake
Hi Dave, /snapshots/wxwindows should contain the version and previous versions of wxWindows that the development team are working with (and building the snapshots against). Fixed. /ftp/wxwindows should contain *only* the version of wxWindows that we release versions of pgAdmin against. The ftp directory is mirrored and definitely *should not* have arbitrary versions of wx under it. Please remove all except 20030831. I deleted the new RPMs. 1) I moved my stuff into a http://snake.pgadmin.org/jean-michel directory. Do not use the RPMs in this directory, they are mostly ***not compatible*** with pgAdmin3. Actually, these RPMs do not even compile! So why are they on Snake? If they're not for use with pgAdmin or don't compile, please delete them. There's 160Mb of space wasted there. If you are using that area as a working directory, please use your home directory. Because I need some place to upload the packages. If the name jean-michel is confusing, I will set up a web server somewhere else. But this would be sad. I upload the build logs to show the wx guys their RPMs don't work. Otherwize, they wron't admit it. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] wxWindows directories merge on Snake
Le Lundi 13 Octobre 2003 16:30, Dave Page a crit : I don't mind you using it for that, but 160Mb of logs seems excessive to convince people that there's a problem. What else is in there? Are you only uploading logs when things actually go wrong? I deleted previous builds and will upload only daily builds from now in http://snake.pgadmin.org/jean-michel. Warning: do not use the RPMs from this directory. wxWindows packaging scheme is extremely complicated. There are several ports (base, gtk, gtk2, x11, etc...) and two sets of RPMs for each port (unicode, non-unicode): wx-base, wx-base-unicode wx-gtk wx-gtk2, wx-gtk2-unicode wx-x11, wx-x11-unicode Each set has 3 to 6 RPMs. There are 3 distros (RH, MKK, SUSE). This makes a lot of RPMs... Jean-Michel. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] New wx patches
Le Dimanche 12 Octobre 2003 11:09, Dave Page a crit : The snapshot package has now been updated. Jean-Michel, can you update the RPMs to match this distro please. I am working on it. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] New wx patches
Le Dimanche 12 Octobre 2003 19:53, Raphal Enrici a crit : IMHO we should not have two separate directories to keep trace of wxwindows-pgadmin3 sources snaphots. (I mean http://snake/wxwindows and http://snake/snapshots/wxWindows) Any good reason that we do not merge the two directories ? I think it is a source of confusion. Sorry for the confusion. http://snake.pgadmin.org/wxwindows is an experimental place for building wxWindows RPMs using official scripts. Unfortunately, I was not able to make a complete build. wxWindows always fails to compile somewhere. Tomorrow, I will rename the directory wx_experimental. Maybe we should move Dave binaries and Andreas patches in http://snake.pgadmin.org/snapshots/wxwindows. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
[pgadmin-hackers] Impossible to compile pgAdmin3 snapshots
Dear all, I installed wxWindows 20031010 patched version. pgAdmin3 snapshots does not compile with an include error: if g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DDATA_DIR=\/usr/share/pgadmin3/\ -Wall -g -I../src/include -I../src/agent/include -I -DSSL -I/usr/include -I/usr/local/lib/wx/include/gtk2ud-2.5 -D__WXDEBUG__ -D__WXGTK__ -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGE_FILES -I/usr/local/include -DDATA_DIR=\/usr/share/pgadmin3/\ -Wall -g -I../src/include -I../src/agent/include -I -Wall -g -O0 -MT utffile.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/utffile.Tpo \ -c -o utffile.o `test -f 'utils/utffile.cpp' || echo './'`utils/utffile.cpp; \ then mv -f .deps/utffile.Tpo .deps/utffile.Po; \ else rm -f .deps/utffile.Tpo; exit 1; \ fi Dans le fichier inclus à partir de utils/utffile.cpp:11: ../src/include/utffile.h:21: spécificateur de type omis pour le paramètre « wxFontEncoding » Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] CVS compile error
Le Mercredi 8 Octobre 2003 09:06, Dave Page a crit : Could that be something to do with the lack of Unicode support on Mac? MacOsX has built-in support for Unicode. wxMac does not. It remains to be added to wxMac according to Stefan. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
[pgadmin-hackers] wxGTK rpms
Dear Friends, I modified wxWindows makerpm script and uploaded a slightly revisited version to http://snake.pgadmin.org/wxwindows. The rest and other platforms will follow tonight. wxWindows stock RPMs are built without debug and provide **both** static and dynamic libraries by default. Do you think pgAdmin3 can be build staticly without debug? This is quite easy to patch wxWindows SPEC files to add debug as an option. Shall I do it? Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] [pgadmin-support] Bug in pgadmin III displa ying/exporting dat
Le Vendredi 3 Octobre 2003 18:55, Godshall Michael a crit : So if SSL is not defined, the ssl libs may not be linked to it either. I can remember using an old snapshot with the SSL combo. The libraries should be installed on the build host. What is the name of the libraries needed? Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] wxWindows Upgrade
Le Jeudi 2 Octobre 2003 12:02, Dave Page a crit : Both code branches of pgAdmin III have now been updated to compile against the 20031001 wxWindows CVS snapshot. Currently we are using an unpatched snapshot which you can get from the wxWindows site. wx library names have changed: # ls /usr/lib libwx_baseud-2.5.a libwx_baseud_xml-2.5.a libwx_gtk2ud_core-2.5.a libwx_gtk2ud_stc-2.5.a wx libwx_baseud_net-2.5.a libwx_gtk2ud_adv-2.5.a libwx_gtk2ud_html-2.5.a libwx_gtk2ud_xrc-2.5.a Could you tell me more about this new naming scheme? Is pgAdmin3 able to take them into account at compilation time? Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Mac Port
Le Mercredi 1 Octobre 2003 00:43, Adam H.Pendleton a crit : http://www.fmonkey.net/pgastartup.jpg I don't remember now how I fixed this before, so I'll have to do some research. Stefan, maybe you have a quick answer (if there is such a thing)? :-) Dear Adam H. Pendleton, Nice Macintosh. Is this a new platform? How wide is your screen? Sorry for the late reply because of the jet lag :) The language list is displayed in UTF-8 because our translations are stored in Unicode. wxMac does not support Unicode and hence fails to display some languages. If you compile pgAdmin3 without Unicode, you should be able to view pgAdmin3 English interface. Most European languages should display (with accent problems). Because Unicode is based on ASCII characters, it should not break pgAdmin logic. Could Andreas confirm? Dear Stefan, is there a way to use the iconv library as a wrapper to recode strings on the fly from Unicode to Apple format. Do you think iconv is a working solution to display Unicode strings in MacOs10.2 until MacOsX 10.3 is out? By the way, Adam, I did not apply the patches. Could you contact me on my ICQ to explain more deeply what needs to be done. I would like to set up a MacOsX section on the development page and display the recommanded configuration settings. Below is a list of known encodings supported by inconv. Cheers, Jean-Michel # iconv --list La liste suivante contient tous les jeux des codes de caractres connus. Ceci ne signifie pas ncessairement que toutes les combinaisons de ces noms peuvent tre utilises dans les paramtres FROM et TO des commandes. Un jeu de codes de caractres peut tre affich avec diffrents noms (aliases). 437, 500, 500V1, 850, 851, 852, 855, 856, 857, 860, 861, 862, 863, 864, 865, 866, 866NAV, 869, 874, 904, 1026, 1046, 1047, 8859_1, 8859_2, 8859_3, 8859_4, 8859_5, 8859_6, 8859_7, 8859_8, 8859_9, 10646-1:1993, 10646-1:1993/UCS4, ANSI_X3.4-1968, ANSI_X3.4-1986, ANSI_X3.4, ANSI_X3.110-1983, ANSI_X3.110, ARABIC, ARABIC7, ARMSCII-8, ASCII, ASMO-708, ASMO_449, BALTIC, BIG-5, BIG-FIVE, BIG5-HKSCS, BIG5, BIG5HKSCS, BIGFIVE, BS_4730, CA, CN-BIG5, CN-GB, CN, CP-AR, CP-GR, CP-HU, CP037, CP038, CP273, CP274, CP275, CP278, CP280, CP281, CP282, CP284, CP285, CP290, CP297, CP367, CP420, CP423, CP424, CP437, CP500, CP737, CP775, CP813, CP819, CP850, CP851, CP852, CP855, CP856, CP857, CP860, CP861, CP862, CP863, CP864, CP865, CP866, CP866NAV, CP868, CP869, CP870, CP871, CP874, CP875, CP880, CP891, CP903, CP904, CP905, CP912, CP915, CP916, CP918, CP920, CP922, CP930, CP932, CP933, CP935, CP936, CP937, CP939, CP949, CP950, CP1004, CP1026, CP1046, CP1047, CP1070, CP1079, CP1081, CP1084, CP1089, CP1124, CP1125, CP1129, CP1132, CP1133, CP1160, CP1161, CP1162, CP1163, CP1164, CP1250, CP1251, CP1252, CP1253, CP1254, CP1255, CP1256, CP1257, CP1258, CP1361, CP10007, CPIBM861, CSA7-1, CSA7-2, CSASCII, CSA_T500-1983, CSA_T500, CSA_Z243.4-1985-1, CSA_Z243.4-1985-2, CSA_Z243.419851, CSA_Z243.419852, CSDECMCS, CSEBCDICATDE, CSEBCDICATDEA, CSEBCDICCAFR, CSEBCDICDKNO, CSEBCDICDKNOA, CSEBCDICES, CSEBCDICESA, CSEBCDICESS, CSEBCDICFISE, CSEBCDICFISEA, CSEBCDICFR, CSEBCDICIT, CSEBCDICPT, CSEBCDICUK, CSEBCDICUS, CSEUCKR, CSEUCPKDFMTJAPANESE, CSGB2312, CSHPROMAN8, CSIBM037, CSIBM038, CSIBM273, CSIBM274, CSIBM275, CSIBM277, CSIBM278, CSIBM280, CSIBM281, CSIBM284, CSIBM285, CSIBM290, CSIBM297, CSIBM420, CSIBM423, CSIBM424, CSIBM500, CSIBM851, CSIBM855, CSIBM856, CSIBM857, CSIBM860, CSIBM863, CSIBM864, CSIBM865, CSIBM866, CSIBM868, CSIBM869, CSIBM870, CSIBM871, CSIBM880, CSIBM891, CSIBM903, CSIBM904, CSIBM905, CSIBM918, CSIBM922, CSIBM930, CSIBM932, CSIBM933, CSIBM935, CSIBM937, CSIBM939, CSIBM943, CSIBM1026, CSIBM1124, CSIBM1129, CSIBM1132, CSIBM1133, CSIBM1160, CSIBM1161, CSIBM1163, CSIBM1164, CSIBM11621162, CSISO4UNITEDKINGDOM, CSISO10SWEDISH, CSISO11SWEDISHFORNAMES, CSISO14JISC6220RO, CSISO15ITALIAN, CSISO16PORTUGESE, CSISO17SPANISH, CSISO18GREEK7OLD, CSISO19LATINGREEK, CSISO21GERMAN, CSISO25FRENCH, CSISO27LATINGREEK1, CSISO49INIS, CSISO50INIS8, CSISO51INISCYRILLIC, CSISO58GB1988, CSISO60DANISHNORWEGIAN, CSISO60NORWEGIAN1, CSISO61NORWEGIAN2, CSISO69FRENCH, CSISO84PORTUGUESE2, CSISO85SPANISH2, CSISO86HUNGARIAN, CSISO88GREEK7, CSISO89ASMO449, CSISO90, CSISO92JISC62991984B, CSISO99NAPLPS, CSISO103T618BIT, CSISO111ECMACYRILLIC, CSISO121CANADIAN1, CSISO122CANADIAN2, CSISO139CSN369103, CSISO141JUSIB1002, CSISO143IECP271, CSISO150, CSISO150GREEKCCITT, CSISO151CUBA, CSISO153GOST1976874, CSISO646DANISH, CSISO2022CN, CSISO2022JP, CSISO2022JP2, CSISO2022KR, CSISO2033, CSISO5427CYRILLIC, CSISO5427CYRILLIC1981, CSISO5428GREEK, CSISO10367BOX, CSISOLATIN1, CSISOLATIN2, CSISOLATIN3, CSISOLATIN4, CSISOLATIN5, CSISOLATIN6, CSISOLATINARABIC, CSISOLATINCYRILLIC, CSISOLATINGREEK, CSISOLATINHEBREW, CSKOI8R, CSKSC5636,
[pgadmin-hackers] make install icons and desktop files
Dear Adam H., In the RPM spec, after make install, we install the icon and desktop file manually using: cp ./src/include/images/elephant48.xpm %{buildroot}/%{_datadir}/%{name}/%{name}.xpm cp ./pkg/%{name}.desktop %{buildroot}/%{_datadir}/%{name}/%{name}.desktop Could it be part of make install itself? Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Czech translation of pgAdmin III
Le Lundi 29 Septembre 2003 15:04, Jean-Michel POURE a crit : I am sending you Czech translation (cs_CZ) of pgAdmin III. All strings are translated, but need some work on terminology and hot keys. While waiting for Jan answer, the maintenance of the Czech translation was handed to Daniel. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
[pgadmin-hackers] Build error under SuSE 8.2
if g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DDATA_DIR=\/usr/share/pgadmin3/\ -Wall -g -I../src/include -I../src/agent/include -I -DSSL -I/usr/include/pgsql -I/usr/lib/wx/include/gtk2ud-2.5 -D__WXDEBUG__ -D__WXGTK__ -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGE_FILES -I/usr/include -DDATA_DIR=\/usr/share/pgadmin3/\ -Wall -g -I../src/include -I../src/agent/include -I -Wall -g -O0 -MT pgaStep.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/pgaStep.Tpo \ -c -o pgaStep.o `test -f 'agent/pgaStep.cpp' || echo './'`agent/pgaStep.cpp; \ then mv .deps/pgaStep.Tpo .deps/pgaStep.Po; \ else rm -f .deps/pgaStep.Tpo; exit 1; \ fi agent/pgaStep.cpp: In static member function `static pgObject* pgaStep::ReadObjects(pgaJob*, wxTreeCtrl*, const wxString)': agent/pgaStep.cpp:100: error: ISO C++ says that `wxChar wxString::operator[](int) const' and `wxChar wxString::operator[](unsigned int)' are ambiguous even though the worst conversion for the former is better than the worst conversion for the latter agent/pgaStep.cpp:110: error: ISO C++ says that `wxChar wxString::operator[](int) const' and `wxChar wxString::operator[](unsigned int)' are ambiguous even though the worst conversion for the former is better than the worst conversion for the latter make[2]: *** [pgaStep.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/packages/BUILD/pgadmin3-1.0.1/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/packages/BUILD/pgadmin3-1.0.1' make: *** [all] Error 2 Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
[pgadmin-hackers] Translation updates
Dear all, Where should we commit translation updates? REL-1_0_0_PATCHES or the main branch? To simplify, I would prefer the main branch only. Same as for translation status. What do you prefer? Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
[pgadmin-hackers] MacOSX compilation steps
Dear Friends, I added information about wxWindows compilation under MacOsX on http://www.pgadmin.org/pgadmin3/download.php#source. It will take some time to replicate from snake development server. Dear Adam H.: could you describe the needed steps for pgAdmin3 compilation? Is it the same as under GNU/Linux? Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [pgadmin-hackers]
Le Mercredi 1 Octobre 2003 20:21, Andreas Pflug a crit : It's no problem storing non-UTF characters in an UNICODE database either, you will never notice until you try to convert. Misusing the database is not a good idea on the long run. Agreed, trash my last e-mail. Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[pgadmin-hackers] Website update against CVS
Hi Dave, I noticed that the website was no longer getting updated against the CVS. Loging in Snake and trying to update the pgadmin3 directory running cvs update -C -P -d, here is the answer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/apache/htdocs/pgadmin3$ cvs update -C -P -d cvs update: cannot rewrite CVS/Entries.Backup: Permission denied (Locally modified cache_pending.txt moved to .#cache_pending.txt.1.43) (Locally modified cache_translated.txt moved to .#cache_translated.txt.1.57) cvs update: cannot rewrite CVS/Entries.Backup: Permission denied cvs update: cannot rewrite CVS/Entries.Backup: Permission denied cvs update: cannot rewrite CVS/Entries.Backup: Permission denied cvs update: cannot rewrite CVS/Entries.Backup: Permission denied cvs update: cannot rewrite CVS/Entries.Backup: Permission denied cvs update: cannot rewrite CVS/Entries.Backup: Permission denied cvs server: Updating . cvs update: cannot rewrite CVS/Entries.Backup: Permission denied cvs server: Updating cache U cache/cache_pending.txt cvs update: cannot open CVS/Entries.Log: Permission denied U cache/cache_translated.txt cvs update: cannot open CVS/Entries.Log: Permission denied cvs server: Updating class cvs server: Updating cnt P cnt/cnt_download.php Then, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/apache/htdocs/pgadmin3/cnt$ ls -l total 80 drwxr-xr-x2 dpageusers4096 Sep 28 17:26 CVS/ -rw-r--r--1 dpageusers7297 Sep 11 22:25 cnt_development.php -rw-r--r--1 root root10874 Sep 26 17:04 cnt_download.php -rw-r--r--1 root root 6902 Sep 26 17:04 cnt_index.php -rw-r--r--1 root root 2779 Sep 28 17:26 cnt_mirrors.php -rw-r--r--1 dpageusers 10429 Aug 5 18:05 cnt_screenshots.php -rw-r--r--1 dpageusers1473 Aug 13 13:29 cnt_support.php -rw-r--r--1 dpageusers 12084 Sep 12 12:00 cnt_translation.php -rw-r--r--1 dpageusers7357 Sep 23 20:35 cnt_translation_status.php -rw-r--r--1 dpageusers5025 Aug 19 11:02 licence.txt Seems like something wrote directly under root account without using CVS. Is this a cron job running under root account? Cheers, Jean-Michel ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]