Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New "DarkMetalTheme" for Pharo

[Norbert Hartl]

You should call it Insomnia!

Norbert

> Am 06.10.2016 um 10:36 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano :
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> I took some time to extract the ==MUDDarkTheme== I made for my 
> *MUDClient>https://github.com/estebanlm/MUDClient* 
> , 
> repackage it, rebrand it and make it available for everybody. 
> 
> So behold, the new DarkMetalTheme  ! 
> 
> https://github.com/estebanlm/themes  
> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New "DarkMetalTheme" for Pharo

[Esteban Lorenzano]

> On 6 Oct 2016, at 12:01, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 06 Oct 2016, at 10:39, Norbert Hartl  wrote:
>> 
>> You should call it Insomnia!
> 
> +1
> 
> For which Pharo versions will this work, is it supported ? 4 ? 5 ? 6 ?

it should work on 5 and 6 out of the box… and I guess pharo 4 too, never tried. 

> Is the plan to replace the previous Dark Theme or are both going to be 
> maintained in parallel ?

not at all (unless community decides so, but if that’s the case I think it 
needs some work… as Phil said, there are some colors that are not working so 
well)
I made it for another project (and to prove that applying a palette was easy… 
which turned to be not true because of the spotter themers). 

I do not think all themes needs to be in image. In my “design-in-the-mind” we 
should have just two: one white and one dark, and we should made the others 
easily accessible/installable. 

This theme, so far, is just intended for my use and all who want to use and 
enhance it, so I’m maintaining it but I accept contributions :)

Esteban


> 
>> Norbert
>> 
>>> Am 06.10.2016 um 10:36 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano :
>>> 
>>> Hi, 
>>> 
>>> I took some time to extract the ==MUDDarkTheme== I made for my 
>>> *MUDClient>https://github.com/estebanlm/MUDClient*, 
>>> repackage it, rebrand it and make it available for everybody. 
>>> 
>>> So behold, the new DarkMetalTheme  ! 
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/estebanlm/themes 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New "DarkMetalTheme" for Pharo

[Dimitris Chloupis]

sure it is an opportunity to see how metadaless gitfiletree works, are
there any instruction or documentation about it ?


On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:04 PM Esteban Lorenzano 
wrote:

> yeah.
> btw… feel free to do “metadataless” that repo.
>
> Esteban
>
> On 6 Oct 2016, at 14:54, Dimitris Chloupis  wrote:
>
> fork and pull request ?
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:43 PM Esteban Lorenzano 
> wrote:
>
> On 6 Oct 2016, at 14:38, Dimitris Chloupis  wrote:
>
> Dark theme is a diffirent theme so this one cannot replace it
>
> I really like this one too but I feel the contrasts could be better , I
> find it hard to make out some buttons.
>
>
> I know.
> Feel free to contribute ;)
>
> Esteban
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:59 PM Esteban Lorenzano 
> wrote:
>
>
> > On 6 Oct 2016, at 12:01, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On 06 Oct 2016, at 10:39, Norbert Hartl  wrote:
> >>
> >> You should call it Insomnia!
> >
> > +1
> >
> > For which Pharo versions will this work, is it supported ? 4 ? 5 ? 6 ?
>
> it should work on 5 and 6 out of the box… and I guess pharo 4 too, never
> tried.
>
> > Is the plan to replace the previous Dark Theme or are both going to be
> maintained in parallel ?
>
> not at all (unless community decides so, but if that’s the case I think it
> needs some work… as Phil said, there are some colors that are not working
> so well)
> I made it for another project (and to prove that applying a palette was
> easy… which turned to be not true because of the spotter themers).
>
> I do not think all themes needs to be in image. In my “design-in-the-mind”
> we should have just two: one white and one dark, and we should made the
> others easily accessible/installable.
>
> This theme, so far, is just intended for my use and all who want to use
> and enhance it, so I’m maintaining it but I accept contributions :)
>
> Esteban
>
>
> >
> >> Norbert
> >>
> >>> Am 06.10.2016 um 10:36 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano  >:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I took some time to extract the ==MUDDarkTheme== I made for my
> *MUDClient>https://github.com/estebanlm/MUDClient*,
> >>> repackage it, rebrand it and make it available for everybody.
> >>>
> >>> So behold, the new DarkMetalTheme  !
> >>>
> >>> https://github.com/estebanlm/themes
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New "DarkMetalTheme" for Pharo

[Esteban Lorenzano]

yeah. 
btw… feel free to do “metadataless” that repo. 

Esteban

> On 6 Oct 2016, at 14:54, Dimitris Chloupis  wrote:
> 
> fork and pull request ?
> 
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:43 PM Esteban Lorenzano  > wrote:
>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 14:38, Dimitris Chloupis > > wrote:
>> 
>> Dark theme is a diffirent theme so this one cannot replace it
>> 
>> I really like this one too but I feel the contrasts could be better , I find 
>> it hard to make out some buttons. 
> 
> I know. 
> Feel free to contribute ;)
> 
> Esteban
> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:59 PM Esteban Lorenzano > > wrote:
>> 
>> > On 6 Oct 2016, at 12:01, Sven Van Caekenberghe > > > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 06 Oct 2016, at 10:39, Norbert Hartl > >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> You should call it Insomnia!
>> >
>> > +1
>> >
>> > For which Pharo versions will this work, is it supported ? 4 ? 5 ? 6 ?
>> 
>> it should work on 5 and 6 out of the box… and I guess pharo 4 too, never 
>> tried.
>> 
>> > Is the plan to replace the previous Dark Theme or are both going to be 
>> > maintained in parallel ?
>> 
>> not at all (unless community decides so, but if that’s the case I think it 
>> needs some work… as Phil said, there are some colors that are not working so 
>> well)
>> I made it for another project (and to prove that applying a palette was 
>> easy… which turned to be not true because of the spotter themers).
>> 
>> I do not think all themes needs to be in image. In my “design-in-the-mind” 
>> we should have just two: one white and one dark, and we should made the 
>> others easily accessible/installable.
>> 
>> This theme, so far, is just intended for my use and all who want to use and 
>> enhance it, so I’m maintaining it but I accept contributions :)
>> 
>> Esteban
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> >> Norbert
>> >>
>> >>> Am 06.10.2016 um 10:36 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano > >>> >:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> I took some time to extract the ==MUDDarkTheme== I made for my 
>> >>> *MUDClient>https://github.com/estebanlm/MUDClient* 
>> >>> ,
>> >>> repackage it, rebrand it and make it available for everybody.
>> >>>
>> >>> So behold, the new DarkMetalTheme  !
>> >>>
>> >>> https://github.com/estebanlm/themes 
>> >>>
>> >>> 
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> 
>> 

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New "DarkMetalTheme" for Pharo

[Dimitris Chloupis]

Dark theme is a diffirent theme so this one cannot replace it

I really like this one too but I feel the contrasts could be better , I
find it hard to make out some buttons.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:59 PM Esteban Lorenzano 
wrote:

>
> > On 6 Oct 2016, at 12:01, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On 06 Oct 2016, at 10:39, Norbert Hartl  wrote:
> >>
> >> You should call it Insomnia!
> >
> > +1
> >
> > For which Pharo versions will this work, is it supported ? 4 ? 5 ? 6 ?
>
> it should work on 5 and 6 out of the box… and I guess pharo 4 too, never
> tried.
>
> > Is the plan to replace the previous Dark Theme or are both going to be
> maintained in parallel ?
>
> not at all (unless community decides so, but if that’s the case I think it
> needs some work… as Phil said, there are some colors that are not working
> so well)
> I made it for another project (and to prove that applying a palette was
> easy… which turned to be not true because of the spotter themers).
>
> I do not think all themes needs to be in image. In my “design-in-the-mind”
> we should have just two: one white and one dark, and we should made the
> others easily accessible/installable.
>
> This theme, so far, is just intended for my use and all who want to use
> and enhance it, so I’m maintaining it but I accept contributions :)
>
> Esteban
>
>
> >
> >> Norbert
> >>
> >>> Am 06.10.2016 um 10:36 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano  >:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I took some time to extract the ==MUDDarkTheme== I made for my
> *MUDClient>https://github.com/estebanlm/MUDClient*,
> >>> repackage it, rebrand it and make it available for everybody.
> >>>
> >>> So behold, the new DarkMetalTheme  !
> >>>
> >>> https://github.com/estebanlm/themes
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo5 download for linux - interpreter cannot read image file

[Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras]

this
http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/latest.zip

works pretty well in Debian GNU/Linux 8 Jessie


On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Clément Bera  wrote:

> Thanks for reporting the problem.
>
> The error means the VM is incompatible with the image. There was a change
> of image format in Pharo 5, so the package has likely an old VM while the
> image has the new format, or the new VM while the image has the old format.
>
> Someone will look into that problem in the incoming weeks. Most Pharo
> maintainers are on Mac, we noticed recently that other OS were not
> maintained carefully enough (We're sorry about that) and we're trying to
> solve that problem.
>
> Meantime
>
> Can you try the latest VM from here (latest.zip):
> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/
>
> Or if still failing, the latest VM from here (latest.zip):
> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/linux/
>
> One of these two VMs should work. Please tell me which one worked if you
> try.
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> Clement
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <
> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> i already submitted a similar issue
>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18221/This-interpreter-ver
>> s-6505-cannot-read-image-file-vers-6521
>>
>> check it and see if it is the same
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Andreas Sunardi 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm on CentOS 6.5 and I downloaded Pharo 5 for GNU/Linux w. libc < 2.15
>>> and for CentOS. Both won't start (I have no problem with Windows version):
>>>
>>> $ pharo
>>> This interpreter (vers. 6505) cannot read image file (vers. 6521).
>>> Press CR to quit...
>>>
>>> I'm unable to find report or information about this issue on the web. I
>>> think it was like this ~2 months ago as well. Is this a known issue?
>>>
>>> First time posting question in this mailing list, so I beg your pardon
>>> if I break any mailing list rule.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andreas S
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bernardo E.C.
>>
>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.
>>
>
>


-- 
Bernardo E.C.

Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

Re: [Pharo-users] Small "code" editor example for improving a GUI

[Peter Uhnak]

On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 10:41:10AM -0500, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to create some GUI that would be essentially a text
> area field plus some buttons. The idea is to support
> 
> - Font size increasing/decreasing.
> 
> - Syntaxt highlighting for markup languages.

The hardest part is the syntax highlighting itself, because you need (ideally 
non-strict) parser and highlighter for each language. There are several 
languages that use PetitParser for both.
Then you basically build up the text with `Text`, (`Text` class supports things 
like specifying color, emphasis, etc.).

And then you can just show the text in a RubTextArea.

You can even use Spec' TextModel; I used TextModel and PetitParser based 
highlightning for coloring my DSL, but I never got around to finishing it.

I believe Johan's Live State Machine editor does something similar.

Also look at Pillar support (I saw mails floating around that it was updated or 
something).

Peter


> 
> I gave a glimpse to the RubTextAreaExamples yesterday, but if anyone
> knows a more complete example to start with, that would be really
> helpful.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Offray
> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] Small "code" editor example for improving a GUI

[Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas]

Thanks Peter,

I will start with the font increase, decrease part then. Is important. 
My eyes are not so young now. Will try building some small widget with a 
Tex class using text area and two buttons. It shouldn't be so hard.


Cheers,

Offray


On 06/10/16 12:45, Peter Uhnak wrote:

On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 10:41:10AM -0500, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:

Hi,

I would like to create some GUI that would be essentially a text
area field plus some buttons. The idea is to support

- Font size increasing/decreasing.

- Syntaxt highlighting for markup languages.

The hardest part is the syntax highlighting itself, because you need (ideally 
non-strict) parser and highlighter for each language. There are several 
languages that use PetitParser for both.
Then you basically build up the text with `Text`, (`Text` class supports things 
like specifying color, emphasis, etc.).

And then you can just show the text in a RubTextArea.

You can even use Spec' TextModel; I used TextModel and PetitParser based 
highlightning for coloring my DSL, but I never got around to finishing it.

I believe Johan's Live State Machine editor does something similar.

Also look at Pillar support (I saw mails floating around that it was updated or 
something).

Peter



I gave a glimpse to the RubTextAreaExamples yesterday, but if anyone
knows a more complete example to start with, that would be really
helpful.

Cheers,

Offray

Re: [Pharo-users] Small "code" editor example for improving a GUI

[Dimitris Chloupis]

I am a masochist and still use Morphic
I love Morphic
Yes I know I have talked to my psychiatrist about it, he adjusted my drugs
On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 at 20:52, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote:

> Thanks Peter,
>
> I will start with the font increase, decrease part then. Is important.
> My eyes are not so young now. Will try building some small widget with a
> Tex class using text area and two buttons. It shouldn't be so hard.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Offray
>
>
> On 06/10/16 12:45, Peter Uhnak wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 10:41:10AM -0500, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I would like to create some GUI that would be essentially a text
> >> area field plus some buttons. The idea is to support
> >>
> >> - Font size increasing/decreasing.
> >>
> >> - Syntaxt highlighting for markup languages.
> > The hardest part is the syntax highlighting itself, because you need
> (ideally non-strict) parser and highlighter for each language. There are
> several languages that use PetitParser for both.
> > Then you basically build up the text with `Text`, (`Text` class supports
> things like specifying color, emphasis, etc.).
> >
> > And then you can just show the text in a RubTextArea.
> >
> > You can even use Spec' TextModel; I used TextModel and PetitParser based
> highlightning for coloring my DSL, but I never got around to finishing it.
> >
> > I believe Johan's Live State Machine editor does something similar.
> >
> > Also look at Pillar support (I saw mails floating around that it was
> updated or something).
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >> I gave a glimpse to the RubTextAreaExamples yesterday, but if anyone
> >> knows a more complete example to start with, that would be really
> >> helpful.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Offray
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo5 download for linux - interpreter cannot read image file

[Clément Bera]

Thanks for reporting the problem.

The error means the VM is incompatible with the image. There was a change
of image format in Pharo 5, so the package has likely an old VM while the
image has the new format, or the new VM while the image has the old format.

Someone will look into that problem in the incoming weeks. Most Pharo
maintainers are on Mac, we noticed recently that other OS were not
maintained carefully enough (We're sorry about that) and we're trying to
solve that problem.

Meantime

Can you try the latest VM from here (latest.zip):
http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/

Or if still failing, the latest VM from here (latest.zip):
http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/linux/

One of these two VMs should work. Please tell me which one worked if you
try.

Thanks & Regards

Clement

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <
vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> i already submitted a similar issue
> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18221/This-interpreter-
> vers-6505-cannot-read-image-file-vers-6521
>
> check it and see if it is the same
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Andreas Sunardi 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm on CentOS 6.5 and I downloaded Pharo 5 for GNU/Linux w. libc < 2.15
>> and for CentOS. Both won't start (I have no problem with Windows version):
>>
>> $ pharo
>> This interpreter (vers. 6505) cannot read image file (vers. 6521).
>> Press CR to quit...
>>
>> I'm unable to find report or information about this issue on the web. I
>> think it was like this ~2 months ago as well. Is this a known issue?
>>
>> First time posting question in this mailing list, so I beg your pardon if
>> I break any mailing list rule.
>>
>> --
>> Andreas S
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Bernardo E.C.
>
> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.
>

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] New "DarkMetalTheme" for Pharo

[Sven Van Caekenberghe]

Just what do you think you're doing, Dave?

> On 06 Oct 2016, at 17:23, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Good timing. Yesterday I was playing with my Pharo env appearance:
> 
> 
> 
> Details on "day 3" of this blog post here (in Spanish): 
> http://mutabit.com/offray/blog/es/entry/semana-del-codigo-2016
> 
> Having more themes for Pharo is really appealing (I liked also the good 
> amount of themes Squeak showed in the last ESUG).
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Offray
> 
> On 06/10/16 03:36, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> I took some time to extract the ==MUDDarkTheme== I made for my 
>> *MUDClient>https://github.com/estebanlm/MUDClient*, 
>> repackage it, rebrand it and make it available for everybody. 
>> 
>> So behold, the new DarkMetalTheme  ! 
>> 
>> https://github.com/estebanlm/themes 
>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] Small "code" editor example for improving a GUI

[Stephan Eggermont]

On 06/10/16 17:41, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:

I gave a glimpse to the RubTextAreaExamples yesterday, but if anyone
knows a more complete example to start with, that would be really helpful.


Did you take a look at my CodePanel experiment code?

Stephan

[Pharo-users] Pharo5 download for linux - interpreter cannot read image file

[Andreas Sunardi]

I'm on CentOS 6.5 and I downloaded Pharo 5 for GNU/Linux w. libc < 2.15 and
for CentOS. Both won't start (I have no problem with Windows version):

$ pharo
This interpreter (vers. 6505) cannot read image file (vers. 6521).
Press CR to quit...

I'm unable to find report or information about this issue on the web. I
think it was like this ~2 months ago as well. Is this a known issue?

First time posting question in this mailing list, so I beg your pardon if I
break any mailing list rule.

--
Andreas S

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo5 download for linux - interpreter cannot read image file

[Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras]

i already submitted a similar issue
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18221/This-interpreter-vers-6505-cannot-read-image-file-vers-6521

check it and see if it is the same

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Andreas Sunardi  wrote:

> I'm on CentOS 6.5 and I downloaded Pharo 5 for GNU/Linux w. libc < 2.15
> and for CentOS. Both won't start (I have no problem with Windows version):
>
> $ pharo
> This interpreter (vers. 6505) cannot read image file (vers. 6521).
> Press CR to quit...
>
> I'm unable to find report or information about this issue on the web. I
> think it was like this ~2 months ago as well. Is this a known issue?
>
> First time posting question in this mailing list, so I beg your pardon if
> I break any mailing list rule.
>
> --
> Andreas S
>



-- 
Bernardo E.C.

Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo5 download for linux - interpreter cannot read image file

[Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras]

Hold on,

  There's also this issue
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17353/build-spur-vm-for-debian-old-libc

where in one comment jan.vrany recommended his build

https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/job/pharo-vm-spur-swing/

https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/view/All/job/pharo-vm-spur-swing/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/pharo-vm-spur-swing.zip

that i have used in debian wheezy with the old libc for quite a while. i
don't use it anymore because im in jessie.



On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Andreas Sunardi  wrote:

> Thank you for the impressive quick response. Unfortunately, I have older
> glibc. So now I'm struggling with compiling glibc 2.15 for 32 bit on my 64
> bit CentOS 6.5 machine. Not an easy thing to do.
>
> I'll try those VMs once I succeed in building this glibc
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <
> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> this
>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/latest.zip
>>
>> works pretty well in Debian GNU/Linux 8 Jessie
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Clément Bera 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for reporting the problem.
>>>
>>> The error means the VM is incompatible with the image. There was a
>>> change of image format in Pharo 5, so the package has likely an old VM
>>> while the image has the new format, or the new VM while the image has the
>>> old format.
>>>
>>> Someone will look into that problem in the incoming weeks. Most Pharo
>>> maintainers are on Mac, we noticed recently that other OS were not
>>> maintained carefully enough (We're sorry about that) and we're trying to
>>> solve that problem.
>>>
>>> Meantime
>>>
>>> Can you try the latest VM from here (latest.zip):
>>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/
>>>
>>> Or if still failing, the latest VM from here (latest.zip):
>>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/linux/
>>>
>>> One of these two VMs should work. Please tell me which one worked if you
>>> try.
>>>
>>> Thanks & Regards
>>>
>>> Clement
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <
>>> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 i already submitted a similar issue
 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18221/This-interpreter-ver
 s-6505-cannot-read-image-file-vers-6521

 check it and see if it is the same

 On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Andreas Sunardi 
 wrote:

> I'm on CentOS 6.5 and I downloaded Pharo 5 for GNU/Linux w. libc <
> 2.15 and for CentOS. Both won't start (I have no problem with Windows
> version):
>
> $ pharo
> This interpreter (vers. 6505) cannot read image file (vers. 6521).
> Press CR to quit...
>
> I'm unable to find report or information about this issue on the web.
> I think it was like this ~2 months ago as well. Is this a known issue?
>
> First time posting question in this mailing list, so I beg your pardon
> if I break any mailing list rule.
>
> --
> Andreas S
>



 --
 Bernardo E.C.

 Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bernardo E.C.
>>
>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.
>>
>
>


-- 
Bernardo E.C.

Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo5 download for linux - interpreter cannot read image file

[Andreas Sunardi]

Thank you for the impressive quick response. Unfortunately, I have older
glibc. So now I'm struggling with compiling glibc 2.15 for 32 bit on my 64
bit CentOS 6.5 machine. Not an easy thing to do.

I'll try those VMs once I succeed in building this glibc

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <
vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> this
> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/latest.zip
>
> works pretty well in Debian GNU/Linux 8 Jessie
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Clément Bera 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for reporting the problem.
>>
>> The error means the VM is incompatible with the image. There was a change
>> of image format in Pharo 5, so the package has likely an old VM while the
>> image has the new format, or the new VM while the image has the old format.
>>
>> Someone will look into that problem in the incoming weeks. Most Pharo
>> maintainers are on Mac, we noticed recently that other OS were not
>> maintained carefully enough (We're sorry about that) and we're trying to
>> solve that problem.
>>
>> Meantime
>>
>> Can you try the latest VM from here (latest.zip):
>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/
>>
>> Or if still failing, the latest VM from here (latest.zip):
>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/linux/
>>
>> One of these two VMs should work. Please tell me which one worked if you
>> try.
>>
>> Thanks & Regards
>>
>> Clement
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <
>> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> i already submitted a similar issue
>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18221/This-interpreter-ver
>>> s-6505-cannot-read-image-file-vers-6521
>>>
>>> check it and see if it is the same
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Andreas Sunardi 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm on CentOS 6.5 and I downloaded Pharo 5 for GNU/Linux w. libc < 2.15
 and for CentOS. Both won't start (I have no problem with Windows version):

 $ pharo
 This interpreter (vers. 6505) cannot read image file (vers. 6521).
 Press CR to quit...

 I'm unable to find report or information about this issue on the web. I
 think it was like this ~2 months ago as well. Is this a known issue?

 First time posting question in this mailing list, so I beg your pardon
 if I break any mailing list rule.

 --
 Andreas S

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bernardo E.C.
>>>
>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Bernardo E.C.
>
> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.
>

[Pharo-users] Pharo & macOS Sierra

[Jupiter Jones]

Hi All,

I see that the latest PharoVM for 5 and 6 are again working on macOS Sierra, 
but not 4 or 3.

The versions I’m using are from the ZeroConf site…

curl get.pharo.org/vm30  | bash

Is it likely there will be a fix for this?

Thanks for your help,

J

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo5 download for linux - interpreter cannot read image file

[Sven Van Caekenberghe]

> On 07 Oct 2016, at 06:20, Andreas Sunardi  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Bernardo. That fogbugz case is exactly the problem I'm having.
> 
> This VM (pharo-vm-spur-swing.zip) is able to open Pharo 5.0 image from Pharo 
> download page. This is a good sign.
> 
> Upon opening the image, I am, however, presented immediately with 
> 'MessageNotUnderstood: receiver of "/" is nil'. It's coming from 
> SystemSettingsPersistence class >> defaultPreferenceFileReference
> 
> It boils down to
> OSEnvironment#getEnv: 'HOME'
> 
> a failure in building an FFI call. The FFI call function signature is
> #( String getenv (String string) )
> 
> The context object built from OSEnvironment#getEnv: gives answer 'arg1', 
> instead of 'string', to a call to #method#argumentNames. Down the road, an 
> IRMethod instance is trying to find the index for 'string' and can't find 
> any, because what is stored is 'arg1'.

I think you are missing the correct sources files in the correct place (next to 
the VM binary).

> I'm out of my depth at this point, and this is a separate issue than not 
> being able to start the image. I have to think where I want to go from here.
> 
> So, thank you for all of you, for the exceedingly quick and friendly help.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras 
>  wrote:
> Hold on,
> 
>   There's also this issue
> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17353/build-spur-vm-for-debian-old-libc
> 
> where in one comment jan.vrany recommended his build
> 
> https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/job/pharo-vm-spur-swing/
> 
> https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/view/All/job/pharo-vm-spur-swing/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/pharo-vm-spur-swing.zip
> 
> that i have used in debian wheezy with the old libc for quite a while. i 
> don't use it anymore because im in jessie.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Andreas Sunardi  wrote:
> Thank you for the impressive quick response. Unfortunately, I have older 
> glibc. So now I'm struggling with compiling glibc 2.15 for 32 bit on my 64 
> bit CentOS 6.5 machine. Not an easy thing to do.
> 
> I'll try those VMs once I succeed in building this glibc
> 
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras 
>  wrote:
> this
> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/latest.zip
> 
> works pretty well in Debian GNU/Linux 8 Jessie
>  
> 
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Clément Bera  wrote:
> Thanks for reporting the problem. 
> 
> The error means the VM is incompatible with the image. There was a change of 
> image format in Pharo 5, so the package has likely an old VM while the image 
> has the new format, or the new VM while the image has the old format. 
> 
> Someone will look into that problem in the incoming weeks. Most Pharo 
> maintainers are on Mac, we noticed recently that other OS were not maintained 
> carefully enough (We're sorry about that) and we're trying to solve that 
> problem.
> 
> Meantime
> 
> Can you try the latest VM from here (latest.zip):
> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/
> 
> Or if still failing, the latest VM from here (latest.zip):
> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/linux/
> 
> One of these two VMs should work. Please tell me which one worked if you try.
> 
> Thanks & Regards
> 
> Clement
> 
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras 
>  wrote:
> i already submitted a similar issue
> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18221/This-interpreter-vers-6505-cannot-read-image-file-vers-6521
> 
> check it and see if it is the same
> 
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Andreas Sunardi  wrote:
> I'm on CentOS 6.5 and I downloaded Pharo 5 for GNU/Linux w. libc < 2.15 and 
> for CentOS. Both won't start (I have no problem with Windows version):
> 
> $ pharo
> This interpreter (vers. 6505) cannot read image file (vers. 6521).
> Press CR to quit...
> 
> I'm unable to find report or information about this issue on the web. I think 
> it was like this ~2 months ago as well. Is this a known issue?
> 
> First time posting question in this mailing list, so I beg your pardon if I 
> break any mailing list rule.
> 
> --
> Andreas S
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bernardo E.C.
> 
> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bernardo E.C.
> 
> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bernardo E.C.
> 
> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo5 download for linux - interpreter cannot read image file

[Clément Bera]

Hello

What you describe (arg1 instead of string) means the source file is not
present. Sources are required for some FFI calls. Take the PharoV50.sources
file (you can find it here http://files.pharo.org/sources/) and put it in
the same folder as your VM. It should solve the problem.

Best,

Clement

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:20 AM, Andreas Sunardi  wrote:

> Thanks, Bernardo. That fogbugz case is exactly the problem I'm having.
>
> This VM (pharo-vm-spur-swing.zip) is able to open Pharo 5.0 image from
> Pharo download page. This is a good sign.
>
> Upon opening the image, I am, however, presented immediately with
> 'MessageNotUnderstood: receiver of "/" is nil'. It's coming from
> SystemSettingsPersistence class >> defaultPreferenceFileReference
>
> It boils down to
> OSEnvironment#getEnv: 'HOME'
>
> a failure in building an FFI call. The FFI call function signature is
> #( String getenv (String string) )
>
> The context object built from OSEnvironment#getEnv: gives answer 'arg1',
> instead of 'string', to a call to #method#argumentNames. Down the road, an
> IRMethod instance is trying to find the index for 'string' and can't find
> any, because what is stored is 'arg1'.
>
> I'm out of my depth at this point, and this is a separate issue than not
> being able to start the image. I have to think where I want to go from here.
>
> So, thank you for all of you, for the exceedingly quick and friendly help.
>
> Cheers!
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <
> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hold on,
>>
>>   There's also this issue
>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17353/build-spur-vm-for-debian-old-libc
>>
>> where in one comment jan.vrany recommended his build
>>
>> https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/job/pharo-vm-spur-swing/
>>
>> https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/view/All/job/pharo-vm-spur
>> -swing/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/pharo-vm-spur-swing.zip
>>
>> that i have used in debian wheezy with the old libc for quite a while. i
>> don't use it anymore because im in jessie.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Andreas Sunardi 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for the impressive quick response. Unfortunately, I have older
>>> glibc. So now I'm struggling with compiling glibc 2.15 for 32 bit on my 64
>>> bit CentOS 6.5 machine. Not an easy thing to do.
>>>
>>> I'll try those VMs once I succeed in building this glibc
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <
>>> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 this
 http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/latest.zip

 works pretty well in Debian GNU/Linux 8 Jessie


 On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Clément Bera 
 wrote:

> Thanks for reporting the problem.
>
> The error means the VM is incompatible with the image. There was a
> change of image format in Pharo 5, so the package has likely an old VM
> while the image has the new format, or the new VM while the image has the
> old format.
>
> Someone will look into that problem in the incoming weeks. Most Pharo
> maintainers are on Mac, we noticed recently that other OS were not
> maintained carefully enough (We're sorry about that) and we're trying to
> solve that problem.
>
> Meantime
>
> Can you try the latest VM from here (latest.zip):
> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/
>
> Or if still failing, the latest VM from here (latest.zip):
> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/linux/
>
> One of these two VMs should work. Please tell me which one worked if
> you try.
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> Clement
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <
> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> i already submitted a similar issue
>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18221/This-interpreter-ver
>> s-6505-cannot-read-image-file-vers-6521
>>
>> check it and see if it is the same
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Andreas Sunardi 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm on CentOS 6.5 and I downloaded Pharo 5 for GNU/Linux w. libc <
>>> 2.15 and for CentOS. Both won't start (I have no problem with Windows
>>> version):
>>>
>>> $ pharo
>>> This interpreter (vers. 6505) cannot read image file (vers. 6521).
>>> Press CR to quit...
>>>
>>> I'm unable to find report or information about this issue on the
>>> web. I think it was like this ~2 months ago as well. Is this a known 
>>> issue?
>>>
>>> First time posting question in this mailing list, so I beg your
>>> pardon if I break any mailing list rule.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andreas S
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bernardo E.C.
>>
>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.
>>
>
>


 --
 Bernardo E.C.

 Sent from a cheap 

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo5 download for linux - interpreter cannot read image file

[Andreas Sunardi]

Thanks, Bernardo. That fogbugz case is exactly the problem I'm having.

This VM (pharo-vm-spur-swing.zip) is able to open Pharo 5.0 image from
Pharo download page. This is a good sign.

Upon opening the image, I am, however, presented immediately with
'MessageNotUnderstood: receiver of "/" is nil'. It's coming from
SystemSettingsPersistence class >> defaultPreferenceFileReference

It boils down to
OSEnvironment#getEnv: 'HOME'

a failure in building an FFI call. The FFI call function signature is
#( String getenv (String string) )

The context object built from OSEnvironment#getEnv: gives answer 'arg1',
instead of 'string', to a call to #method#argumentNames. Down the road, an
IRMethod instance is trying to find the index for 'string' and can't find
any, because what is stored is 'arg1'.

I'm out of my depth at this point, and this is a separate issue than not
being able to start the image. I have to think where I want to go from here.

So, thank you for all of you, for the exceedingly quick and friendly help.

Cheers!

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <
vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hold on,
>
>   There's also this issue
> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17353/build-spur-vm-for-debian-old-libc
>
> where in one comment jan.vrany recommended his build
>
> https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/job/pharo-vm-spur-swing/
>
> https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/view/All/job/pharo-vm-spur-swing/
> lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/pharo-vm-spur-swing.zip
>
> that i have used in debian wheezy with the old libc for quite a while. i
> don't use it anymore because im in jessie.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Andreas Sunardi 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for the impressive quick response. Unfortunately, I have older
>> glibc. So now I'm struggling with compiling glibc 2.15 for 32 bit on my 64
>> bit CentOS 6.5 machine. Not an easy thing to do.
>>
>> I'll try those VMs once I succeed in building this glibc
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <
>> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> this
>>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/latest.zip
>>>
>>> works pretty well in Debian GNU/Linux 8 Jessie
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Clément Bera 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for reporting the problem.

 The error means the VM is incompatible with the image. There was a
 change of image format in Pharo 5, so the package has likely an old VM
 while the image has the new format, or the new VM while the image has the
 old format.

 Someone will look into that problem in the incoming weeks. Most Pharo
 maintainers are on Mac, we noticed recently that other OS were not
 maintained carefully enough (We're sorry about that) and we're trying to
 solve that problem.

 Meantime

 Can you try the latest VM from here (latest.zip):
 http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/

 Or if still failing, the latest VM from here (latest.zip):
 http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/linux/

 One of these two VMs should work. Please tell me which one worked if
 you try.

 Thanks & Regards

 Clement

 On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <
 vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> i already submitted a similar issue
> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18221/This-interpreter-ver
> s-6505-cannot-read-image-file-vers-6521
>
> check it and see if it is the same
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Andreas Sunardi 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm on CentOS 6.5 and I downloaded Pharo 5 for GNU/Linux w. libc <
>> 2.15 and for CentOS. Both won't start (I have no problem with Windows
>> version):
>>
>> $ pharo
>> This interpreter (vers. 6505) cannot read image file (vers. 6521).
>> Press CR to quit...
>>
>> I'm unable to find report or information about this issue on the web.
>> I think it was like this ~2 months ago as well. Is this a known issue?
>>
>> First time posting question in this mailing list, so I beg your
>> pardon if I break any mailing list rule.
>>
>> --
>> Andreas S
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Bernardo E.C.
>
> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.
>


>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bernardo E.C.
>>>
>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Bernardo E.C.
>
> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.
>

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New "DarkMetalTheme" for Pharo

[Esteban Lorenzano]

> On 6 Oct 2016, at 14:38, Dimitris Chloupis  wrote:
> 
> Dark theme is a diffirent theme so this one cannot replace it
> 
> I really like this one too but I feel the contrasts could be better , I find 
> it hard to make out some buttons. 

I know. 
Feel free to contribute ;)

Esteban

> 
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:59 PM Esteban Lorenzano  > wrote:
> 
> > On 6 Oct 2016, at 12:01, Sven Van Caekenberghe  > > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On 06 Oct 2016, at 10:39, Norbert Hartl  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> You should call it Insomnia!
> >
> > +1
> >
> > For which Pharo versions will this work, is it supported ? 4 ? 5 ? 6 ?
> 
> it should work on 5 and 6 out of the box… and I guess pharo 4 too, never 
> tried.
> 
> > Is the plan to replace the previous Dark Theme or are both going to be 
> > maintained in parallel ?
> 
> not at all (unless community decides so, but if that’s the case I think it 
> needs some work… as Phil said, there are some colors that are not working so 
> well)
> I made it for another project (and to prove that applying a palette was easy… 
> which turned to be not true because of the spotter themers).
> 
> I do not think all themes needs to be in image. In my “design-in-the-mind” we 
> should have just two: one white and one dark, and we should made the others 
> easily accessible/installable.
> 
> This theme, so far, is just intended for my use and all who want to use and 
> enhance it, so I’m maintaining it but I accept contributions :)
> 
> Esteban
> 
> 
> >
> >> Norbert
> >>
> >>> Am 06.10.2016 um 10:36 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano  >>> >:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I took some time to extract the ==MUDDarkTheme== I made for my 
> >>> *MUDClient>https://github.com/estebanlm/MUDClient* 
> >>> ,
> >>> repackage it, rebrand it and make it available for everybody.
> >>>
> >>> So behold, the new DarkMetalTheme  !
> >>>
> >>> https://github.com/estebanlm/themes 
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New "DarkMetalTheme" for Pharo

[Dimitris Chloupis]

fork and pull request ?

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:43 PM Esteban Lorenzano 
wrote:

> On 6 Oct 2016, at 14:38, Dimitris Chloupis  wrote:
>
> Dark theme is a diffirent theme so this one cannot replace it
>
> I really like this one too but I feel the contrasts could be better , I
> find it hard to make out some buttons.
>
>
> I know.
> Feel free to contribute ;)
>
> Esteban
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:59 PM Esteban Lorenzano 
> wrote:
>
>
> > On 6 Oct 2016, at 12:01, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On 06 Oct 2016, at 10:39, Norbert Hartl  wrote:
> >>
> >> You should call it Insomnia!
> >
> > +1
> >
> > For which Pharo versions will this work, is it supported ? 4 ? 5 ? 6 ?
>
> it should work on 5 and 6 out of the box… and I guess pharo 4 too, never
> tried.
>
> > Is the plan to replace the previous Dark Theme or are both going to be
> maintained in parallel ?
>
> not at all (unless community decides so, but if that’s the case I think it
> needs some work… as Phil said, there are some colors that are not working
> so well)
> I made it for another project (and to prove that applying a palette was
> easy… which turned to be not true because of the spotter themers).
>
> I do not think all themes needs to be in image. In my “design-in-the-mind”
> we should have just two: one white and one dark, and we should made the
> others easily accessible/installable.
>
> This theme, so far, is just intended for my use and all who want to use
> and enhance it, so I’m maintaining it but I accept contributions :)
>
> Esteban
>
>
> >
> >> Norbert
> >>
> >>> Am 06.10.2016 um 10:36 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano  >:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I took some time to extract the ==MUDDarkTheme== I made for my
> *MUDClient>https://github.com/estebanlm/MUDClient*,
> >>> repackage it, rebrand it and make it available for everybody.
> >>>
> >>> So behold, the new DarkMetalTheme  !
> >>>
> >>> https://github.com/estebanlm/themes
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

[Pharo-users] Small "code" editor example for improving a GUI

[Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas]

Hi,

I would like to create some GUI that would be essentially a text area 
field plus some buttons. The idea is to support


- Font size increasing/decreasing.

- Syntaxt highlighting for markup languages.

I gave a glimpse to the RubTextAreaExamples yesterday, but if anyone 
knows a more complete example to start with, that would be really helpful.


Cheers,

Offray