Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
Yes, Martin is still in the needle business. But he is apparently VERY busy, as well. Not the easiest man to get a hold of. He has moved since his old Amerola Graphic days. But m...@together.net is his current e-mail. Cheers, TF -Original Message- From: jim...@earthlink.net jim...@earthlink.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2010 12:48 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? I spoke to Mr. Bryan (New Amberola Phonograph Company) on the telephone three or four years ago about placing a large (close to $ 1000.00) order for needles, both in bulk in packages of 100, sent him cheques for same but the cheques were never cashed, nor were he needles received he never responded to several letters I wrote inquiring about my order. Finally this year, I quit keeping funds to cover the cheques in my bank account thought he had disappeared from the face of the earth so my cheques would not be cashed. Is he still in the needle business? I had previously bought needles from him several times would like to again since he offered several thicknesses suitable for different records. Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances, Inc. Austin, Texas jim...@earthlink.net [Original Message] From: phonop...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 15-Apr-2010 5:35:00 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? I highly recommend Martin Bryan for steel needles at m...@together.net Best, Tim F. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
Yes, how strange, 3 or 4 years ago he sent a bulk mailing around saying that he was starting up the Amberola Graphic again, asked me to send in my subscription fee and promised he would start getting them out on a more timely basis, then as you say, the elusive fellow disappeared from site, never cashed the check, and never followed up on his promise to start up the Amberola Graphic again. Now you say he is still in the Needle business. I realized that the guy is a one man show, but you have to fulfill your promises, and if you don't, why in the world would you buy needles from him? I don't hold a grudge against the guy mind you, he was a trailblazer in our hobby as far as offering a very informative and interesting collectors quarterly that you looked forward to receiving, its just that something obviously went very very wrong towards the end, and has never been the same since. There was no follow up, no apologies, for failures to keep your word, it just did not sit very w ell with many many collectors, even until this day. - Original Message - From: phonop...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 8:20:04 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Yes, Martin is still in the needle business. But he is apparently VERY busy, as well. Not the easiest man to get a hold of. He has moved since his old Amerola Graphic days. But m...@together.net is his current e-mail. Cheers, TF -Original Message- From: jim...@earthlink.net jim...@earthlink.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2010 12:48 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? I spoke to Mr. Bryan (New Amberola Phonograph Company) on the telephone three or four years ago about placing a large (close to $ 1000.00) order for needles, both in bulk in packages of 100, sent him cheques for same but the cheques were never cashed, nor were he needles received he never responded to several letters I wrote inquiring about my order. Finally this year, I quit keeping funds to cover the cheques in my bank account thought he had disappeared from the face of the earth so my cheques would not be cashed. Is he still in the needle business? I had previously bought needles from him several times would like to again since he offered several thicknesses suitable for different records. Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances, Inc. Austin, Texas jim...@earthlink.net [Original Message] From: phonop...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 15-Apr-2010 5:35:00 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? I highly recommend Martin Bryan for steel needles at m...@together.net Best, Tim F. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
I don't know about Texas, but in California checks are only good for 6 months. If not cashed by then they are void at the bank. This Bryan guy sounds like he's not the greatest businessman. That's no way to keep a customer! John Robles Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: jim...@earthlink.net jim...@earthlink.net Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:48:43 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? I spoke to Mr. Bryan (New Amberola Phonograph Company) on the telephone three or four years ago about placing a large (close to $ 1000.00) order for needles, both in bulk in packages of 100, sent him cheques for same but the cheques were never cashed, nor were he needles received he never responded to several letters I wrote inquiring about my order. Finally this year, I quit keeping funds to cover the cheques in my bank account thought he had disappeared from the face of the earth so my cheques would not be cashed. Is he still in the needle business? I had previously bought needles from him several times would like to again since he offered several thicknesses suitable for different records. Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances, Inc. Austin, Texas jim...@earthlink.net [Original Message] From: phonop...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 15-Apr-2010 5:35:00 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? I highly recommend Martin Bryan for steel needles at m...@together.net Best, Tim F. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
I wonder if he is aware of his reputation among collectors? Jim On Apr 16, 2010, at 8:20 AM, phonop...@aol.com wrote: Yes, Martin is still in the needle business. But he is apparently VERY busy, as well. Not the easiest man to get a hold of. He has moved since his old Amerola Graphic days. But m...@together.net is his current e-mail. Cheers, TF -Original Message- From: jim...@earthlink.net jim...@earthlink.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2010 12:48 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? I spoke to Mr. Bryan (New Amberola Phonograph Company) on the telephone three or four years ago about placing a large (close to $ 1000.00) order for needles, both in bulk in packages of 100, sent him cheques for same but the cheques were never cashed, nor were he needles received he never responded to several letters I wrote inquiring about my order. Finally this year, I quit keeping funds to cover the cheques in my bank account thought he had disappeared from the face of the earth so my cheques would not be cashed. Is he still in the needle business? I had previously bought needles from him several times would like to again since he offered several thicknesses suitable for different records. Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances, Inc. Austin, Texas jim...@earthlink.net [Original Message] From: phonop...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 15-Apr-2010 5:35:00 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? I highly recommend Martin Bryan for steel needles at m...@together.net Best, Tim F. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
I called him on the phone after the mailing to ask him where he got his needles and how he was doing. He said all his investments went bad so he could no longer do the Graphic or the needles, and his best friend died and some other bad things had happened to him. His vintage car he had had since he was young that was his daily driver got totaled. He said it had taken him a year to get over all these things and he was now going to catch up on the needle orders and continue with the Graphic. I waited a year and my check for the needles was not cashed so I figured he had changed his mind. After that nothing else was heard from him until he started to sell needles on eBay. Steve Yes, how strange, 3 or 4 years ago he sent a bulk mailing around saying that he was starting up the Amberola Graphic again, asked me to send in my subscription fee and promised he would start getting them out on a more timely basis, then as you say, the elusive fellow disappeared from site, never cashed the check, and never followed up on his promise to start up the Amberola Graphic again. Now you say he is still in the Needle business. I realized that the guy is a one man show, but you have to fulfill your promises, and if you don't, why in the world would you buy needles from him? I don't hold a grudge against the guy mind you, he was a trailblazer in our hobby as far as offering a very informative and interesting collectors quarterly that you looked forward to receiving, its just that something obviously went very very wrong towards the end, and has never been the same since. There was no follow up, no apologies, for failures to keep your word, it just did not sit very w ell with many many collectors, even until this day. - Original Message - From: phonop...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 8:20:04 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Yes, Martin is still in the needle business. But he is apparently VERY busy, as well. Not the easiest man to get a hold of. He has moved since his old Amerola Graphic days. But m...@together.net is his current e-mail. Cheers, TF -Original Message- From: jim...@earthlink.net jim...@earthlink.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2010 12:48 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? I spoke to Mr. Bryan (New Amberola Phonograph Company) on the telephone three or four years ago about placing a large (close to $ 1000.00) order for needles, both in bulk in packages of 100, sent him cheques for same but the cheques were never cashed, nor were he needles received he never responded to several letters I wrote inquiring about my order. Finally this year, I quit keeping funds to cover the cheques in my bank account thought he had disappeared from the face of the earth so my cheques would not be cashed. Is he still in the needle business? I had previously bought needles from him several times would like to again since he offered several thicknesses suitable for different records. Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances, Inc. Austin, Texas jim...@earthlink.net [Original Message] From: phonop...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 15-Apr-2010 5:35:00 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? I highly recommend Martin Bryan for steel needles at m...@together.net Best, Tim F. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
Yes, it's Bagshaw. They've been making them since the early 1900s. But here's the catch --- you've got to buy A LOT, I mean A LOT -- and they won't be in little bags. So, it's a big expense and a lot of work. For most people it's too big a project, but go to www.whbagshaw.com Regards to all, Tim Fabrizio www.phonophan.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
They would be Bagshaw in Nashua NH or Dean in CT. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 12:50 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Hello all I seem to remember hearing about a needle manufacturer in the US that still makes them and has for decades..anyone remember who it is? I am seeking to buy needles wholesale. Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
Hi I didn't see them on the site, but the president wrote back to tell me they do make them and asking the quantity I would want.. Where can I get 1 of 2 or 3 sizes at a reasonable price? Thanks John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: phonop...@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:17:28 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Yes, it's Bagshaw. They've been making them since the early 1900s. But here's the catch --- you've got to buy A LOT, I mean A LOT -- and they won't be in little bags. So, it's a big expense and a lot of work. For most people it's too big a project, but go to www.whbagshaw.com Regards to all, Tim Fabrizio www.phonophan.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
Thank you Ron! --Original Message-- From: Ron L'Herault Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: 'Antique Phonograph List' ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Sent: Apr 15, 2010 5:40 AM They would be Bagshaw in Nashua NH or Dean in CT. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 12:50 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Hello all I seem to remember hearing about a needle manufacturer in the US that still makes them and has for decades..anyone remember who it is? I am seeking to buy needles wholesale. Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
Antique Phonograph supply would be the best bet. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john9...@pacbell.net Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:28 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Hi I didn't see them on the site, but the president wrote back to tell me they do make them and asking the quantity I would want.. Where can I get 1 of 2 or 3 sizes at a reasonable price? Thanks John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: phonop...@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:17:28 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Yes, it's Bagshaw. They've been making them since the early 1900s. But here's the catch --- you've got to buy A LOT, I mean A LOT -- and they won't be in little bags. So, it's a big expense and a lot of work. For most people it's too big a project, but go to www.whbagshaw.com Regards to all, Tim Fabrizio www.phonophan.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
Dwayne Wyatt has a good price on quantities of 1000+ From: lhera...@bu.edu To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 12:00:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Antique Phonograph supply would be the best bet. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john9...@pacbell.net Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:28 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Hi I didn't see them on the site, but the president wrote back to tell me they do make them and asking the quantity I would want.. Where can I get 1 of 2 or 3 sizes at a reasonable price? Thanks John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: phonop...@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:17:28 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Yes, it's Bagshaw. They've been making them since the early 1900s. But here's the catch --- you've got to buy A LOT, I mean A LOT -- and they won't be in little bags. So, it's a big expense and a lot of work. For most people it's too big a project, but go to www.whbagshaw.com Regards to all, Tim Fabrizio www.phonophan.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
Some years ago I bought steel needles from Pfanstiehl but then began buying from the New Amberola Phonograph Company which following a telephone call to place an order after which I sent payment three years ago failed to send the needles cash the cheques I'd sent, despite several follow up letters I've writtenI'd like to know of a good current source of needles also since I'm about sold out continue to have the occassional request from customers. Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances, Inc. jim...@earthlink.net [Original Message] From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 14-Apr-2010 11:49:34 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Hello all I seem to remember hearing about a needle manufacturer in the US that still makes them and has for decades..anyone remember who it is? I am seeking to buy needles wholesale. Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
I bought needles from APSCO in the past but I didn't like them. Under a magnifier the surfaces were very rough and I didn't like the sound. They may have changed suppliers since, however. It was convenient that they were prepackaged though. I'd give them another try. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Daniel Melvin d...@old-phonographs.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:08:39 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? I have bought tickets from APSCO and they have been very reliable. http://www.antiquephono.com/ Dan On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:38 AM, jim...@earthlink.net jim...@earthlink.netwrote: Some years ago I bought steel needles from Pfanstiehl but then began buying from the New Amberola Phonograph Company which following a telephone call to place an order after which I sent payment three years ago failed to send the needles cash the cheques I'd sent, despite several follow up letters I've writtenI'd like to know of a good current source of needles also since I'm about sold out continue to have the occassional request from customers. Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances, Inc. jim...@earthlink.net [Original Message] From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 14-Apr-2010 11:49:34 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Hello all I seem to remember hearing about a needle manufacturer in the US that still makes them and has for decades..anyone remember who it is? I am seeking to buy needles wholesale. Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
The quote from Bagshaw for 20,000 was 1700.00, or 8.00 plus cost per hundred. Not competitive at all. I see you would have to buy tons to compete with these $5 per hundred sellers. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: phonop...@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:17:28 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Yes, it's Bagshaw. They've been making them since the early 1900s. But here's the catch --- you've got to buy A LOT, I mean A LOT -- and they won't be in little bags. So, it's a big expense and a lot of work. For most people it's too big a project, but go to www.whbagshaw.com Regards to all, Tim Fabrizio www.phonophan.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
I observe a difference in shape between antique/original phono needles, and newly manufactured ones. The antique needles I've found are slightly longer, and are tapered along the full length of the needle - a true needle shape. The newly manufactured ones are somewhat shorter, and are not tapered apart from the cone tip - they are more of a brad shape. I sure do like the look of the old long tapered needle when I use one from time to time. Anyone know if any of these manufacturers that have been mentioned still make the old-school style needles that are tapered along the full length? To my un-aided ear, I can't tell a difference in the sound of an old needle versus a new needle, but I am sure on some micro-level there is a difference. Just as the varying size of a soft tone versus a full tone needle makes a difference, the varying shapes of antique versus new needles, and also difference in the old-versus-new steel alloys, must affect the vibrational sensitivity of the needle, and thereby ultimately have an effect on the sound. So even if the difference in sound is not perceptible to me, I still find it more satisfying to use an antique needle. Lol - maybe I'm the only one for whom these pedantic details matter! -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Melvin Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:09 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? I have bought tickets from APSCO and they have been very reliable. http://www.antiquephono.com/ Dan On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:38 AM, jim...@earthlink.net jim...@earthlink.netwrote: Some years ago I bought steel needles from Pfanstiehl but then began buying from the New Amberola Phonograph Company which following a telephone call to place an order after which I sent payment three years ago failed to send the needles cash the cheques I'd sent, despite several follow up letters I've writtenI'd like to know of a good current source of needles also since I'm about sold out continue to have the occassional request from customers. Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances, Inc. jim...@earthlink.net [Original Message] From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 14-Apr-2010 11:49:34 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Hello all I seem to remember hearing about a needle manufacturer in the US that still makes them and has for decades..anyone remember who it is? I am seeking to buy needles wholesale. Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
Not the only one. Andy Baron On Apr 15, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Bryan, Ronald (DSHS/DDD) wrote: I observe a difference in shape between antique/original phono needles, and newly manufactured ones. The antique needles I've found are slightly longer, and are tapered along the full length of the needle - a true needle shape. The newly manufactured ones are somewhat shorter, and are not tapered apart from the cone tip - they are more of a brad shape. I sure do like the look of the old long tapered needle when I use one from time to time. Anyone know if any of these manufacturers that have been mentioned still make the old-school style needles that are tapered along the full length? To my un-aided ear, I can't tell a difference in the sound of an old needle versus a new needle, but I am sure on some micro-level there is a difference. Just as the varying size of a soft tone versus a full tone needle makes a difference, the varying shapes of antique versus new needles, and also difference in the old-versus-new steel alloys, must affect the vibrational sensitivity of the needle, and thereby ultimately have an effect on the sound. So even if the difference in sound is not perceptible to me, I still find it more satisfying to use an antique needle. Lol - maybe I'm the only one for whom these pedantic details matter! -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org ] On Behalf Of Daniel Melvin Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:09 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? I have bought tickets from APSCO and they have been very reliable. http://www.antiquephono.com/ Dan On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:38 AM, jim...@earthlink.net jim...@earthlink.netwrote: Some years ago I bought steel needles from Pfanstiehl but then began buying from the New Amberola Phonograph Company which following a telephone call to place an order after which I sent payment three years ago failed to send the needles cash the cheques I'd sent, despite several follow up letters I've writtenI'd like to know of a good current source of needles also since I'm about sold out continue to have the occassional request from customers. Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances, Inc. jim...@earthlink.net [Original Message] From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 14-Apr-2010 11:49:34 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Hello all I seem to remember hearing about a needle manufacturer in the US that still makes them and has for decades..anyone remember who it is? I am seeking to buy needles wholesale. Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
You have to go to 50K to get the better price break. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john9...@pacbell.net Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:19 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? The quote from Bagshaw for 20,000 was 1700.00, or 8.00 plus cost per hundred. Not competitive at all. I see you would have to buy tons to compete with these $5 per hundred sellers. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: phonop...@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:17:28 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Yes, it's Bagshaw. They've been making them since the early 1900s. But here's the catch --- you've got to buy A LOT, I mean A LOT -- and they won't be in little bags. So, it's a big expense and a lot of work. For most people it's too big a project, but go to www.whbagshaw.com Regards to all, Tim Fabrizio www.phonophan.com ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
I have used them for 10 years and have no complaints and have never encountered a bad needle. Dan On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: All the APSCO loud and soft tone needles I've ever examined have been smooth and shiny. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john9...@pacbell.net Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:17 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? I bought needles from APSCO in the past but I didn't like them. Under a magnifier the surfaces were very rough and I didn't like the sound. They may have changed suppliers since, however. It was convenient that they were prepackaged though. I'd give them another try. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Daniel Melvin d...@old-phonographs.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:08:39 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? I have bought tickets from APSCO and they have been very reliable. http://www.antiquephono.com/ Dan On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:38 AM, jim...@earthlink.net jim...@earthlink.netwrote: Some years ago I bought steel needles from Pfanstiehl but then began buying from the New Amberola Phonograph Company which following a telephone call to place an order after which I sent payment three years ago failed to send the needles cash the cheques I'd sent, despite several follow up letters I've writtenI'd like to know of a good current source of needles also since I'm about sold out continue to have the occassional request from customers. Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances, Inc. jim...@earthlink.net [Original Message] From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 14-Apr-2010 11:49:34 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Hello all I seem to remember hearing about a needle manufacturer in the US that still makes them and has for decades..anyone remember who it is? I am seeking to buy needles wholesale. Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
There were lots of suppliers 75-100 years ago and they made a variety of lengths, and thicknesses (determining volume) as well as material/coatings. We don't have as many choices now. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Bryan, Ronald (DSHS/DDD) Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:39 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? I observe a difference in shape between antique/original phono needles, and newly manufactured ones. The antique needles I've found are slightly longer, and are tapered along the full length of the needle - a true needle shape. The newly manufactured ones are somewhat shorter, and are not tapered apart from the cone tip - they are more of a brad shape. I sure do like the look of the old long tapered needle when I use one from time to time. Anyone know if any of these manufacturers that have been mentioned still make the old-school style needles that are tapered along the full length? To my un-aided ear, I can't tell a difference in the sound of an old needle versus a new needle, but I am sure on some micro-level there is a difference. Just as the varying size of a soft tone versus a full tone needle makes a difference, the varying shapes of antique versus new needles, and also difference in the old-versus-new steel alloys, must affect the vibrational sensitivity of the needle, and thereby ultimately have an effect on the sound. So even if the difference in sound is not perceptible to me, I still find it more satisfying to use an antique needle. Lol - maybe I'm the only one for whom these pedantic details matter! -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Melvin Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:09 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? I have bought tickets from APSCO and they have been very reliable. http://www.antiquephono.com/ Dan On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:38 AM, jim...@earthlink.net jim...@earthlink.netwrote: Some years ago I bought steel needles from Pfanstiehl but then began buying from the New Amberola Phonograph Company which following a telephone call to place an order after which I sent payment three years ago failed to send the needles cash the cheques I'd sent, despite several follow up letters I've writtenI'd like to know of a good current source of needles also since I'm about sold out continue to have the occassional request from customers. Jim Cartwright Immortal Performances, Inc. jim...@earthlink.net [Original Message] From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 14-Apr-2010 11:49:34 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer?? Hello all I seem to remember hearing about a needle manufacturer in the US that still makes them and has for decades..anyone remember who it is? I am seeking to buy needles wholesale. Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
I highly recommend Martin Bryan for steel needles at m...@together.net Best, Tim F. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
Hello all I seem to remember hearing about a needle manufacturer in the US that still makes them and has for decades..anyone remember who it is? I am seeking to buy needles wholesale. Thanks John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
