Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Rooster
Glad to hear the Rooster has Landed, Houston! And I'm glad my mysterious 'well-known record dealer' has identified himself :) I don't like to sell and tell, but thought my valuation of the selling side would be helpful to the conversation. I was pleased with Kurt's offer and am even more pleased to hear that it has been restored and is happily guarding a 10-50. Haven't seen you in a long while, Kurt. I hope all is well. The kids are all getting older and college expenses are through the roof!! But on a more important note, I just bought about half of a Zonophone B, and am setting my sights on learning more about it and perhaps completing another restoration project. Can anyone help with Zono B info?? Thanks- Brad -Original Message- From: Kurt Nauck na...@78rpm.com To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, Apr 18, 2011 1:55 am Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe Rooster That well-known dealer finally had his rooster restored by a onservator at Houston's Museum of Fine Arts at a cost of several undred dollars, and now it proudly sits on his 10-50. (The rooster had a broken base, broken beak and was painted white. orking from photos of an original provided by Tim Fabrizio, it now ooks terrific.) Thanks Brad! Kurt Nauck /o Nauck's Vintage Records 2004 Sherrod Ln. pring, TX 77389 Website: www.78rpm.com -Mail: na...@78rpm.com ww.newpledge.org ww.mdada.org Phone: (281) 288-7826 ax: (425) 930-6862 __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Picture Disc
Fantastic Find !! What year would that have produced ?? Did Pathe offer other Picture Discs during the same era ?? - Original Message - From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 12:20:09 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Picture Disc Links for pics of both sides of the Pathe Picture Disc http://www.preservemymoney.com/pictures/Pathe%20Side1.jpg http://www.preservemymoney.com/pictures/Pathe%20Side2.jpg From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:20:56 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe Picture Disc Over the weekend, I went to the CAMPS show and found an unusual Pathe Picture Record... It is a French can-can recording with some risque (for the time) pictures of Parisian can-can girls on both sides with skirts high in the air. With all of the knowledge on the list, I think that someone out there might know something about this recording. How rare is it? When was it made? Approximate price range? Was it recorded at Moulin Rouge or which night club in Paris? Thanks for any light you might shed on this. If you need more details or pics, I can post them. Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Picture Disc
Links for pics of both sides of the Pathe Picture Disc http://www.preservemymoney.com/pictures/Pathe%20Side1.jpg http://www.preservemymoney.com/pictures/Pathe%20Side2.jpg From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:20:56 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe Picture Disc Over the weekend, I went to the CAMPS show and found an unusual Pathe Picture Record... It is a French can-can recording with some risque (for the time) pictures of Parisian can-can girls on both sides with skirts high in the air. With all of the knowledge on the list, I think that someone out there might know something about this recording. How rare is it? When was it made? Approximate price range? Was it recorded at Moulin Rouge or which night club in Paris? Thanks for any light you might shed on this. If you need more details or pics, I can post them. Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Picture Disc
The only clue that I have is that Jean Alfaro was supposedly one of the best Tango specialists of his era in Paris. He was a conductor of a jazz/tango orchestra between 1920 and 1951. So, it would be interesting to know when this was produced. He apparently played at the MacMahon Palace in the 1920's in Paris. There is still a MacMahon Hotel in Paris, but I don't know if it is the same place. Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 16:22:15 + From: bruce78...@comcast.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Picture Disc Fantastic Find !! What year would that have produced ?? Did Pathe offer other Picture Discs during the same era ?? - Original Message - From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 12:20:09 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Picture Disc Links for pics of both sides of the Pathe Picture Disc http://www.preservemymoney.com/pictures/Pathe%20Side1.jpg http://www.preservemymoney.com/pictures/Pathe%20Side2.jpg From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:20:56 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe Picture Disc Over the weekend, I went to the CAMPS show and found an unusual Pathe Picture Record... It is a French can-can recording with some risque (for the time) pictures of Parisian can-can girls on both sides with skirts high in the air. With all of the knowledge on the list, I think that someone out there might know something about this recording. How rare is it? When was it made? Approximate price range? Was it recorded at Moulin Rouge or which night club in Paris? Thanks for any light you might shed on this. If you need more details or pics, I can post them. Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Picture Disc
Thought you said that they were risqué'. It is clearly marked PG. Nice find, whatever it is Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Vinyl Visions Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 12:20 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Picture Disc Links for pics of both sides of the Pathe Picture Disc http://www.preservemymoney.com/pictures/Pathe%20Side1.jpg http://www.preservemymoney.com/pictures/Pathe%20Side2.jpg From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:20:56 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe Picture Disc Over the weekend, I went to the CAMPS show and found an unusual Pathe Picture Record... It is a French can-can recording with some risque (for the time) pictures of Parisian can-can girls on both sides with skirts high in the air. With all of the knowledge on the list, I think that someone out there might know something about this recording. How rare is it? When was it made? Approximate price range? Was it recorded at Moulin Rouge or which night club in Paris? Thanks for any light you might shed on this. If you need more details or pics, I can post them. Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Picture Disc
Risque is a relative term - I'm sure it was risque for the time... :) Compared to now, nothing seems risque. From: lhera...@bu.edu To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:25:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Picture Disc Thought you said that they were risqué'. It is clearly marked PG. Nice find, whatever it is Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Vinyl Visions Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 12:20 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Picture Disc Links for pics of both sides of the Pathe Picture Disc http://www.preservemymoney.com/pictures/Pathe%20Side1.jpg http://www.preservemymoney.com/pictures/Pathe%20Side2.jpg From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:20:56 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe Picture Disc Over the weekend, I went to the CAMPS show and found an unusual Pathe Picture Record... It is a French can-can recording with some risque (for the time) pictures of Parisian can-can girls on both sides with skirts high in the air. With all of the knowledge on the list, I think that someone out there might know something about this recording. How rare is it? When was it made? Approximate price range? Was it recorded at Moulin Rouge or which night club in Paris? Thanks for any light you might shed on this. If you need more details or pics, I can post them. Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Pix
A handsome piece of furniture, but not the cabinet I was thinking about. I put your pics and one of the Gothic Actuelle in this folder: http://www.box.net/shared/5s02pe4pe0 - Original Message - From: Kurt Nauck na...@78rpm.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 12:39 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe Pix I'll send pictures to your personal email address, Dan - I don't know how to post them to the list. Kurt Nauck ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Pathe
Maybe it's a coin-op - you throw your money into the dish next to the turntable... :) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:54:38 -0700 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Looks like a wood horn to me. Interesting machine! Guido always has good stuff. John --- On Sun, 3/13/11, John Maeder appywan...@hotmail.com wrote: From: John Maeder appywan...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 12:14 PM Don't think that is a diffusor cone. Looks to be a spun metal horn that is being fed from the tone-arm. From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:18:39 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Here is a similar Radior phonograph which plays all 78's: http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-RADIOR-COMBINATON-PHONOGRAPH-PATHE-/270715897124?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f07ecc524 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 18:15:41 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe I had a chance to get this little Pathe inside horn machine, cabinet needed a little tightening, and it was only $65. But I got the feeling that the guy didn't want to ship it because he asked if I would pick it up. I said I would need it shipped, so he got the price for me, and I said ok. Then he said, well, someone else was going to pick it up, so I need to see if they want to do that. He asked, and they did. I was not happy.. J --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote: From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Saturday, March 12, 2011, 5:06 PM John, What you really need is the little Pathe tabletop machine - I am not sure what model - that has what looks like an external horn sticking out of the front just below the turntable. It kind of reminds you of an old fashioned wood box coffee grinder - taller than it is wide. That is a great looking machine and very unusual. I'm with you, I appreciate all phonographs, but am not a big fan of large floor models. That being said, there is one other external horn Pathe that I would love - it is a large floor model machine probably used in public venues - I think coin op - that has a very large horn on a long neck - it looks like it could be six feet tall. Again, I am not sure of the model, but it is probably a very expensive machine. I really like Pathe's - they seem to have a Rube Goldberg essence about them... Curt Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:02:46 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Hi Kurt To make room I'd have to sell something and there's nothing I want to sell right now! Besides which I am not much for upright machines. Thanks John --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Kurt Nauck na...@78rpm.com wrote: From: Kurt Nauck na...@78rpm.com Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Saturday, March 12, 2011, 1:20 PM Yes, diffuser - that's the word. A very interesting contraption - especially the way the whole assembly rotates in order to switch from vertical to lateral. And surprisingly good sounding as well. Of course, I could deliver it to you on my way to ARSC in May, John. That would give you plenty of time to clear out a spot for it! Kurt Nauck c/o Nauck's Vintage Records 22004 Sherrod Ln. Spring, TX 77389 Website: www.78rpm.com E-Mail: na...@78rpm.com www.newpledge.org www.mdada.org Phone: (281) 288-7826 Fax: (425) 930-6862 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Pathe
Looking at the photo on my phone. Can't really say what it is. Metal was just my first reaction. From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:38:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Maybe it's a coin-op - you throw your money into the dish next to the turntable... :) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:54:38 -0700 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Looks like a wood horn to me. Interesting machine! Guido always has good stuff. John --- On Sun, 3/13/11, John Maeder appywan...@hotmail.com wrote: From: John Maeder appywan...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 12:14 PM Don't think that is a diffusor cone. Looks to be a spun metal horn that is being fed from the tone-arm. From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:18:39 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Here is a similar Radior phonograph which plays all 78's: http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-RADIOR-COMBINATON-PHONOGRAPH-PATHE-/270715897124?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f07ecc524 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 18:15:41 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe I had a chance to get this little Pathe inside horn machine, cabinet needed a little tightening, and it was only $65. But I got the feeling that the guy didn't want to ship it because he asked if I would pick it up. I said I would need it shipped, so he got the price for me, and I said ok. Then he said, well, someone else was going to pick it up, so I need to see if they want to do that. He asked, and they did. I was not happy.. J --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote: From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Saturday, March 12, 2011, 5:06 PM John, What you really need is the little Pathe tabletop machine - I am not sure what model - that has what looks like an external horn sticking out of the front just below the turntable. It kind of reminds you of an old fashioned wood box coffee grinder - taller than it is wide. That is a great looking machine and very unusual. I'm with you, I appreciate all phonographs, but am not a big fan of large floor models. That being said, there is one other external horn Pathe that I would love - it is a large floor model machine probably used in public venues - I think coin op - that has a very large horn on a long neck - it looks like it could be six feet tall. Again, I am not sure of the model, but it is probably a very expensive machine. I really like Pathe's - they seem to have a Rube Goldberg essence about them... Curt Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:02:46 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Hi Kurt To make room I'd have to sell something and there's nothing I want to sell right now! Besides which I am not much for upright machines. Thanks John --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Kurt Nauck na...@78rpm.com wrote: From: Kurt Nauck na...@78rpm.com Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Saturday, March 12, 2011, 1:20 PM Yes, diffuser - that's the word. A very interesting contraption - especially the way the whole assembly rotates in order to switch from vertical to lateral. And surprisingly good sounding as well. Of course, I could deliver it to you on my way to ARSC in May, John. That would give you plenty of time to clear out a spot for it! Kurt Nauck c/o Nauck's Vintage Records 22004 Sherrod Ln. Spring, TX 77389 Website: www.78rpm.com E-Mail: na...@78rpm.com www.newpledge.org www.mdada.org Phone: (281) 288-7826 Fax: (425) 930-6862 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing
Re: [Phono-L] Pathe
Check Guido's other items - there is a Diffusor in a portable case. I have a very plain table model with an identical cone, but mine hardly makes any noise at all. I used to think somebody had coated the cone with shellac, making it too heavy to respond properly, but this cone looks exactly like mine. There must be something else wrong with mine. I forget where mine came from, but the person who shipped it was very clever - he bought a big Tupperware-type bowl packed the cone assembly in it! I still use it (the bowl, not the phono) for popcorn. - Original Message - From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Looks like a wood horn to me. Interesting machine! Guido always has good stuff. John --- On Sun, 3/13/11, John Maeder appywan...@hotmail.com wrote: From: John Maeder appywan...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 12:14 PM Don't think that is a diffusor cone. Looks to be a spun metal horn that is being fed from the tone-arm. From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:18:39 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Here is a similar Radior phonograph which plays all 78's: http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-RADIOR-COMBINATON-PHONOGRAPH-PATHE-/270715897124?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f07ecc524 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 18:15:41 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe I had a chance to get this little Pathe inside horn machine, cabinet needed a little tightening, and it was only $65. But I got the feeling that the guy didn't want to ship it because he asked if I would pick it up. I said I would need it shipped, so he got the price for me, and I said ok. Then he said, well, someone else was going to pick it up, so I need to see if they want to do that. He asked, and they did. I was not happy.. J --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote: From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Saturday, March 12, 2011, 5:06 PM John, What you really need is the little Pathe tabletop machine - I am not sure what model - that has what looks like an external horn sticking out of the front just below the turntable. It kind of reminds you of an old fashioned wood box coffee grinder - taller than it is wide. That is a great looking machine and very unusual. I'm with you, I appreciate all phonographs, but am not a big fan of large floor models. That being said, there is one other external horn Pathe that I would love - it is a large floor model machine probably used in public venues - I think coin op - that has a very large horn on a long neck - it looks like it could be six feet tall. Again, I am not sure of the model, but it is probably a very expensive machine. I really like Pathe's - they seem to have a Rube Goldberg essence about them... Curt Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:02:46 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Hi Kurt To make room I'd have to sell something and there's nothing I want to sell right now! Besides which I am not much for upright machines. Thanks John --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Kurt Nauck na...@78rpm.com wrote: From: Kurt Nauck na...@78rpm.com Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Saturday, March 12, 2011, 1:20 PM Yes, diffuser - that's the word. A very interesting contraption - especially the way the whole assembly rotates in order to switch from vertical to lateral. And surprisingly good sounding as well. Of course, I could deliver it to you on my way to ARSC in May, John. That would give you plenty of time to clear out a spot for it! Kurt Nauck c/o Nauck's Vintage Records 22004 Sherrod Ln. Spring, TX 77389 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Pathe
Might you have photos of this machine, to share with us ? I have a plain version of the Actuelle, but would like to see your Gothic version. I suspect that it's very similar or identical to the Edison Small Gothic and Columbia versions, and most likely out of the same furniture factory. I recently saw an Edison Large Gothic in an antique store, but it turned out to be an absolutely identical non-phonograph hutch, with shelves for plates silverware. They wanted the original price, too - $6000 ! ps - I'm due to make a trip to fetch an Actuelle, same model as mine, which was sold when Pathe dropped their machine line - it was made into an Operaphone, with papier-mache horn and generic (probably Heineman) tone arm. I'll need to find an appropriate arm reproducer, as they have been lost. - Original Message - From: Kurt Nauck na...@78rpm.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 4:20 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe Yes, diffuser - that's the word. A very interesting contraption - especially the way the whole assembly rotates in order to switch from vertical to lateral. And surprisingly good sounding as well. Of course, I could deliver it to you on my way to ARSC in May, John. That would give you plenty of time to clear out a spot for it! Kurt Nauck ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Pathe
John, What you really need is the little Pathe tabletop machine - I am not sure what model - that has what looks like an external horn sticking out of the front just below the turntable. It kind of reminds you of an old fashioned wood box coffee grinder - taller than it is wide. That is a great looking machine and very unusual. I'm with you, I appreciate all phonographs, but am not a big fan of large floor models. That being said, there is one other external horn Pathe that I would love - it is a large floor model machine probably used in public venues - I think coin op - that has a very large horn on a long neck - it looks like it could be six feet tall. Again, I am not sure of the model, but it is probably a very expensive machine. I really like Pathe's - they seem to have a Rube Goldberg essence about them... Curt Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:02:46 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Hi Kurt To make room I'd have to sell something and there's nothing I want to sell right now! Besides which I am not much for upright machines. Thanks John --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Kurt Nauck na...@78rpm.com wrote: From: Kurt Nauck na...@78rpm.com Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Saturday, March 12, 2011, 1:20 PM Yes, diffuser - that's the word. A very interesting contraption - especially the way the whole assembly rotates in order to switch from vertical to lateral. And surprisingly good sounding as well. Of course, I could deliver it to you on my way to ARSC in May, John. That would give you plenty of time to clear out a spot for it! Kurt Nauck c/o Nauck's Vintage Records 22004 Sherrod Ln. Spring, TX 77389 Website: www.78rpm.com E-Mail: na...@78rpm.com www.newpledge.org www.mdada.org Phone: (281) 288-7826 Fax: (425) 930-6862 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Pathe
I had a chance to get this little Pathe inside horn machine, cabinet needed a little tightening, and it was only $65. But I got the feeling that the guy didn't want to ship it because he asked if I would pick it up. I said I would need it shipped, so he got the price for me, and I said ok. Then he said, well, someone else was going to pick it up, so I need to see if they want to do that. He asked, and they did. I was not happy.. J --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote: From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Saturday, March 12, 2011, 5:06 PM John, What you really need is the little Pathe tabletop machine - I am not sure what model - that has what looks like an external horn sticking out of the front just below the turntable. It kind of reminds you of an old fashioned wood box coffee grinder - taller than it is wide. That is a great looking machine and very unusual. I'm with you, I appreciate all phonographs, but am not a big fan of large floor models. That being said, there is one other external horn Pathe that I would love - it is a large floor model machine probably used in public venues - I think coin op - that has a very large horn on a long neck - it looks like it could be six feet tall. Again, I am not sure of the model, but it is probably a very expensive machine. I really like Pathe's - they seem to have a Rube Goldberg essence about them... Curt Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:02:46 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Hi Kurt To make room I'd have to sell something and there's nothing I want to sell right now! Besides which I am not much for upright machines. Thanks John --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Kurt Nauck na...@78rpm.com wrote: From: Kurt Nauck na...@78rpm.com Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Saturday, March 12, 2011, 1:20 PM Yes, diffuser - that's the word. A very interesting contraption - especially the way the whole assembly rotates in order to switch from vertical to lateral. And surprisingly good sounding as well. Of course, I could deliver it to you on my way to ARSC in May, John. That would give you plenty of time to clear out a spot for it! Kurt Nauck c/o Nauck's Vintage Records 22004 Sherrod Ln. Spring, TX 77389 Website: www.78rpm.com E-Mail: na...@78rpm.com www.newpledge.org www.mdada.org Phone: (281) 288-7826 Fax: (425) 930-6862 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Cylinder Machine
The Coq was an earlier machine modeled after the Columbia Eagle, but it was later put into the reversible case and became known as the reversible Coq. After that it became the Pathe No. 1. John --- On Sat, 11/20/10, Barry Kasindorf ba...@barrykasindorf.com wrote: From: Barry Kasindorf ba...@barrykasindorf.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Cylinder Machine To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 8:44 PM Looks like my Pathe Coq phono. Very cool machine. -Barry On 11/20/2010 10:10 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote: I bought this machine two years ago and just wondered if anyone knows what model it is and timeframe of manufacture. It plays both standard size and salon size cylinders. It is in fabulous condition, the picture makes it look like it has a square spot on the front. That is the original decal and the finish is almost perfect. I bought it because of the unusual horn carriage and the fact that the works flip over and store inside the box, which then looks like a jewelry box with a brass handle on top. Here is the picture: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=170190476338923saved#!/photo.php?fbid=130673463639224set=a.130672523639318.12387.130658956974008 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Cylinder Machine
Thanks for the info, John. Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:54:09 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Cylinder Machine The Coq was an earlier machine modeled after the Columbia Eagle, but it was later put into the reversible case and became known as the reversible Coq. After that it became the Pathe No. 1. John --- On Sat, 11/20/10, Barry Kasindorf ba...@barrykasindorf.com wrote: From: Barry Kasindorf ba...@barrykasindorf.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Cylinder Machine To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 8:44 PM Looks like my Pathe Coq phono. Very cool machine. -Barry On 11/20/2010 10:10 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote: I bought this machine two years ago and just wondered if anyone knows what model it is and timeframe of manufacture. It plays both standard size and salon size cylinders. It is in fabulous condition, the picture makes it look like it has a square spot on the front. That is the original decal and the finish is almost perfect. I bought it because of the unusual horn carriage and the fact that the works flip over and store inside the box, which then looks like a jewelry box with a brass handle on top. Here is the picture: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=170190476338923saved#!/photo.php?fbid=130673463639224set=a.130672523639318.12387.130658956974008 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Cylinder Machine
Hi As I recall, this is the Pathe No.1, known in England as the New Perfecta. This was the first foreign machine I owned, purchased from Tim Fabrizio in the mid 1980s. I still have the letter from him describing it! He was and is a great resource. I love how it stores upside down in the cabinet. The other cool thing about it is that it, as many phonos from continental Europe are, is made of walnut. Pathe were obviously close copies of Columbia machines, and well done. They began marketing cylinder machines and records around 1894 or 1895. I am not sure about the machines, but their cylinders were phased out around 1909 or so, when they went heavy into the disc business. This folding horn suspension system is unique to Pathe machines, along with the other suspension system made of bent wire, basically, and called the Verite system. This one, consisting of a folding support bar between two folding arms, was called the Orpheus, if I recall. Tim? Very nice machine. John Robles --- On Sat, 11/20/10, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote: From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe Cylinder Machine To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 7:10 PM I bought this machine two years ago and just wondered if anyone knows what model it is and timeframe of manufacture. It plays both standard size and salon size cylinders. It is in fabulous condition, the picture makes it look like it has a square spot on the front. That is the original decal and the finish is almost perfect. I bought it because of the unusual horn carriage and the fact that the works flip over and store inside the box, which then looks like a jewelry box with a brass handle on top. Here is the picture: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=170190476338923saved#!/photo.php?fbid=130673463639224set=a.130672523639318.12387.130658956974008 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Cylinder Machine
Looks like my Pathe Coq phono. Very cool machine. -Barry On 11/20/2010 10:10 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote: I bought this machine two years ago and just wondered if anyone knows what model it is and timeframe of manufacture. It plays both standard size and salon size cylinders. It is in fabulous condition, the picture makes it look like it has a square spot on the front. That is the original decal and the finish is almost perfect. I bought it because of the unusual horn carriage and the fact that the works flip over and store inside the box, which then looks like a jewelry box with a brass handle on top. Here is the picture: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=170190476338923saved#!/photo.php?fbid=130673463639224set=a.130672523639318.12387.130658956974008 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Pathe 16 Giant Records
hi i had mine shipping and he put them between two pieces of hard board or masonite and they came from france shipping was expensive but they came with no damage zono -Original Message- From: Glenn Longwell majesticrec...@snet.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Fri, Sep 25, 2009 10:56 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe 16 Giant Records I've been contacted by someone who has two of these 16 Pathe records and two Music Service Co. Inc. records pressed by Pathe.? I'm thinking of making an offer on them but am concerned about having them shipped.? What are they made of?? Are they shellac and unlikely to make a journey through the post office?? I can guide them on shipping methods but people don't?always listen completely!? What do these go for?? Playing them will be a different dilemna but I'll deal with that later. Thanks, Glenn ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Pathe 16 Giant Records
These records were designed to play loud and at about 120rpms, and were made for Dance Halls. They were the last vertical groove saphire ball records made by Pathe in the early 1920s, and Pathe made a short lived special phonograph to play them. Today you will have to find a transcription phonograph to play them. As for price, assuming the records are in good condition figure 45 - 85 dollars depending on the selection. Jazz numbers will command the higher price, boring ballads etc. the lower price. They are heavy shellac records. They are acutally a little less then 16 so you can shp them in a heavy cardboard 16 Pizza box (don't laugh, it works) as long as you sandwich them between some sturdy cardboard and cover that for further protection with some bubble wrap. Be sure and stamp the box fragile, and insure them. Bruce - Original Message - From: Glenn Longwell majesticrec...@snet.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:56:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe 16 Giant Records I've been contacted by someone who has two of these 16 Pathe records and two Music Service Co. Inc. records pressed by Pathe. I'm thinking of making an offer on them but am concerned about having them shipped. What are they made of? Are they shellac and unlikely to make a journey through the post office? I can guide them on shipping methods but people don't always listen completely! What do these go for? Playing them will be a different dilemna but I'll deal with that later. Thanks, Glenn ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
