Re: [PHP] Array / form processing

2010-10-08 Thread Sebastian Detert

Ron Piggott schrieb:

I am writing a custom shopping cart that eventually the cart will be
uploaded to PayPal for payment.  I need to be able to include the option
that the purchase is a gift certificate.



At present my add to cart function goes like this:

===
# Gift Certificate: 1 is a gift; 2 is personal use

if ( $gift_certificate == yes ) {
$gift = 1;
} else {
$gift = 2;
}

$_SESSION['life_coaching_order'][$product][$gift]['quantity'] = 
$_SESSION['life_coaching_order'][$product][$gift]['quantity'] + 1;

===

Now I need to display the shopping cart contents.  I want to do this
through an array as the contents of the shopping cart are in a session
variable.  I start displaying the shopping cart contents by a FOREACH
loop:

===
foreach ($_SESSION['life_coaching_order'] AS $coaching_fee_theme_reference
= $value ) {
===

What I need help with is that I don't know how to test the value of $gift
in the above array if it is a 1 or 2 (which symbolizes this is a gift
certificate).

I have something like this in mind:
if ( $_SESSION['life_coaching_order'] == 2 ) {

But I don't know how to access all the components of the array while I am
going through the FOREACH loop.

By using a 1 or 2 I have made gift certificates their own product.  If
you a better method I could use please provide me with this feedback.

Ron

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First at all, I wouldn't use 1 or 2 for defining important informations. 
use something like

define('ORDER_GIFT', 1);
define('ORDER_PERSONAL',2);

If you want to check all values of your array you can use several 
foreach loops like


foreach ($_SESSION['life_coaching_order'] AS $coaching_product = $tmp_array)
{
 foreach ($tmp_array as $coaching_gift = $tmp_array2)
 {
   switch ($coaching_gift)
 case ORDER_GIFT: break;

 case ORDER_PERSONAL: break;
)
 } 
}



Personally I would prefer writing a class like

class Order
{
  private $product;
  private $gift;
  private $quantity;

  const ORDER_GIFT=1;
  const ORDER_PERSONAL=2;

 function getGift() {
   return $this - gift;
 }
}

using

$_SESSION['life_coaching_order'][] = new Order();

foreach ( $_SESSION['life_coaching_order'] as $order )
{
 switch ( $order - getGift() )

 case ORDER_GIFT: break;

 case ORDER_PERSONAL: break;
  
} 


I hope that will help you,

Sebastian
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[PHP] PHP and HBCI?

2010-10-08 Thread Stephan Ebelt

Hello,

is there a way to do HBCI banking with PHP?

stephan


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Re: [PHP] PHP and HBCI?

2010-10-08 Thread a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk
How do you mean? Did you want to process payments? Or wad it more of an actual 
banking thing you needed? I've not heard of hbci before, so can't offer much 
information back.

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk

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From: Stephan Ebelt s...@shared-files.de
Date: Fri, Oct 8, 2010 13:37
Subject: [PHP] PHP and HBCI?
To: PHP php-general@lists.php.net


Hello,

is there a way to do HBCI banking with PHP?

stephan


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RE: [PHP] PHP and HBCI?

2010-10-08 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
is there a way to do HBCI banking with PHP?
[/snip]

yes.

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RE: [PHP] Re: Friday's Post

2010-10-08 Thread Tommy Pham
 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Lind [mailto:peter.e.l...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 2:17 AM
 To: Per Jessen
 Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
 Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Friday's Post
 
 On 2 October 2010 11:05, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote:
  Peter Lind wrote:
 
  On 1 October 2010 20:21, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote:
  Peter Lind wrote:
 
  C# has by now exceeded Java by quite a bit -
 
  I've been away from the Java scene since 2002 (when I worked for
  BEA deploying J2EE on Linux/390), but assuming you're talking about
  deployed lines of code or some other real-life measurement, I find
  it hard to believe that C# should have exceeded Java.
 
  Language functionality. I'd much rather use C# than Java as I can do
  more in C# and easier than with Java. For instance, C# 4 has 
  support for late binding to dynamic types. Does Java have an
  equivalent? Is it planned?
 
  I don't know, but Java obviously supports late binding.
 
 
 I was looking more for dynamic types, much more of interest to the average
 PHP dev as that's one of the typical stumbling blocks when switching
 languages. And no, far as I can tell Java doesn't offer that.
 
 Regards
 Peter
 
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I haven't done a lot of coding in Java  ASP.NET/Winform (specifically C#) yet. 
 But from what I've seen and like so far is that ASP.NET supports unsigned 
primitive types (S/Byte, U/Int16, U/Int32, U/Int64) while Java doesn't - even 
though there are requests to have it implemented/supported back in late 1990s.  
Also, it's a shame that the same support doesn't carry to MS' SQL Server.  It's 
a +1 for MySQL here!  But then, if you intend to use MS' MVC in the future, 
it's only officially supported in v3.5+ (it's MS way of forcing people to 
upgrade).  That being the case, it's no longer 'deploy anywhere' since Mono 
only supports up to v2, IIRC.  PHP  Java has the major advantage of 'develop 
anywhere'  'deploy anywhere'.  Thus in the long run, you have lower TCO, IMO, 
due to the licensing for the OS and individual 'client access'...

Anywhere = any OS that will support the JDK and/or PHP binaries.

Regards,
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Re: [PHP] PHP and HBCI?

2010-10-08 Thread Stephan Ebelt
On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 01:50:12PM +0100, a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
 How do you mean? Did you want to process payments? Or wad it more of an
 actual banking thing you needed? I've not heard of hbci before, so can't
 offer much information back.

HBCI is the german Home Banking Computer Interface which is supported by most
banks over here. There are free implementations such as the one used in gnucash
and some other projects: http://www.aquamaniac.de/sites/aqbanking/index.php
(sorry, site is german but code is english). I could not find a way to use
something like that from PHP code, only C and Java so far.

My goal for now would be to access bank account statements in order to show the
balances. I am not too eager to issue transactions.

thanks,
stephan



 Thanks,
 Ash
 http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
 
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 From: Stephan Ebelt s...@shared-files.de
 Date: Fri, Oct 8, 2010 13:37
 Subject: [PHP] PHP and HBCI?
 To: PHP php-general@lists.php.net
 
 
 Hello,
 
 is there a way to do HBCI banking with PHP?
 
 stephan
 
 
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Re: [PHP] PHP and HBCI?

2010-10-08 Thread Stephan Ebelt

wikipedia has a good summary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HBCI#FinTS_4.0

I just learned that its called FinTS now. Looking for that didnt bring me
closer yet.

stephan

On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 01:50:12PM +0100, a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
 How do you mean? Did you want to process payments? Or wad it more of an
 actual banking thing you needed? I've not heard of hbci before, so can't
 offer much information back.
 
 Thanks,
 Ash
 http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
 
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 From: Stephan Ebelt s...@shared-files.de
 Date: Fri, Oct 8, 2010 13:37
 Subject: [PHP] PHP and HBCI?
 To: PHP php-general@lists.php.net
 
 
 Hello,
 
 is there a way to do HBCI banking with PHP?
 
 stephan
 
 
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Re: [PHP] PHP and HBCI?

2010-10-08 Thread Sebastian Detert
Do you have any specifications for HBCI interfaces? Socket connection, 
XML Exchange, DB Access ? If you have C code for such things, it should 
be possible to convert this to php code maybe


Stephan Ebelt schrieb:

On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 01:50:12PM +0100, a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
  

How do you mean? Did you want to process payments? Or wad it more of an
actual banking thing you needed? I've not heard of hbci before, so can't
offer much information back.



HBCI is the german Home Banking Computer Interface which is supported by most
banks over here. There are free implementations such as the one used in gnucash
and some other projects: http://www.aquamaniac.de/sites/aqbanking/index.php
(sorry, site is german but code is english). I could not find a way to use
something like that from PHP code, only C and Java so far.

My goal for now would be to access bank account statements in order to show the
balances. I am not too eager to issue transactions.

thanks,
stephan



  

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk

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From: Stephan Ebelt s...@shared-files.de
Date: Fri, Oct 8, 2010 13:37
Subject: [PHP] PHP and HBCI?
To: PHP php-general@lists.php.net


Hello,

is there a way to do HBCI banking with PHP?

stephan


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[PHP] poll of 'public framework or roll your own'

2010-10-08 Thread Tommy Pham
Hi,

Does anyone know/remember what's the results of that old poll back in mid(?)
January?
http://marc.info/?l=php-generalm=126455173203450w=2

I can't seem to access http://www.rapidpoll.net/8opnt1e.

Thanks,
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[PHP] php5 - website development - what next

2010-10-08 Thread Rakesh Mishra
Hi All,

I  am PHP 4  PHP 5 developer for last 6 yrs. Last year  also got Zend
certification.
Since now I have work on different CMS, Social Networking, telecome , horse
racing domains.

But now I am little bored with developing website. What other things I can
do with PHP ?

Even I believe my knowledge, interest,  market value  with PHP 5 is getting
saturated.
Do you guys suggest me what other thing I can learn or work which help me to
keep my lust for PHP alive
and also boost my career.

Regards
Rakesh


Re: [PHP] PHP and HBCI?

2010-10-08 Thread Stephan Ebelt

common is probably XML via HTTPS transport (at least my bank seems to do it
that way). I have no C code whatsoever.

Can PHP call arbitrary C functions? Then it might be possible to use
AqHBCI/AqBanking somehow?

On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 03:39:04PM +0200, Sebastian Detert wrote:
 Do you have any specifications for HBCI interfaces? Socket connection,  
 XML Exchange, DB Access ? If you have C code for such things, it should  
 be possible to convert this to php code maybe

 Stephan Ebelt schrieb:
 On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 01:50:12PM +0100, a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
   
 How do you mean? Did you want to process payments? Or wad it more of an
 actual banking thing you needed? I've not heard of hbci before, so can't
 offer much information back.
 

 HBCI is the german Home Banking Computer Interface which is supported by most
 banks over here. There are free implementations such as the one used in 
 gnucash
 and some other projects: http://www.aquamaniac.de/sites/aqbanking/index.php
 (sorry, site is german but code is english). I could not find a way to use
 something like that from PHP code, only C and Java so far.

 My goal for now would be to access bank account statements in order to show 
 the
 balances. I am not too eager to issue transactions.

 thanks,
 stephan



   
 Thanks,
 Ash
 http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk

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 From: Stephan Ebelt s...@shared-files.de
 Date: Fri, Oct 8, 2010 13:37
 Subject: [PHP] PHP and HBCI?
 To: PHP php-general@lists.php.net


 Hello,

 is there a way to do HBCI banking with PHP?

 stephan


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Re: [PHP] php5 - website development - what next

2010-10-08 Thread Daniel P. Brown
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 09:53, Rakesh Mishra rakesh.mis...@gmail.com wrote:

 Even I believe my knowledge, interest,  market value  with PHP 5 is getting
 saturated.
 Do you guys suggest me what other thing I can learn or work which help me to
 keep my lust for PHP alive
 and also boost my career.

Write desktop applications: http://gtk.php.net/ .

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Re: [PHP] php5 - website development - what next

2010-10-08 Thread 惠新宸


On 10/08/2010 22:06, 惠新宸 wrote:

test,
i can't send mail to lists?

thanks
On 10/08/2010 22:02, 惠新宸 wrote:

Hi:
   1. you can be a Software Architect
2. you can abstract common requirements, developed php extension.

thanks.


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Re: [PHP] php5 - website development - what next

2010-10-08 Thread Paul M Foster
On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 07:23:59PM +0530, Rakesh Mishra wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I  am PHP 4  PHP 5 developer for last 6 yrs. Last year  also got Zend
 certification.
 Since now I have work on different CMS, Social Networking, telecome , horse
 racing domains.
 
 But now I am little bored with developing website. What other things I can
 do with PHP ?
 
 Even I believe my knowledge, interest,  market value  with PHP 5 is getting
 saturated.
 Do you guys suggest me what other thing I can learn or work which help me to
 keep my lust for PHP alive
 and also boost my career.

There are a variety of major projects which use PHP as their primary
language. Like WordPress. See freshmeat.net and sourceforge.net for
projects written in PHP. You could contribute to these projects, and
increase your knowledge and prestige.

Paul

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Re: [PHP] PHP and HBCI?

2010-10-08 Thread Per Jessen
Stephan Ebelt wrote:

 
 common is probably XML via HTTPS transport (at least my bank seems to
 do it that way). I have no C code whatsoever.
 
 Can PHP call arbitrary C functions? Then it might be possible to use
 AqHBCI/AqBanking somehow?

You (or someone) would need to write a PHP wrapper for the C functions,
but otherwise yes.



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Re: [PHP] php5 - website development - what next

2010-10-08 Thread Richard Quadling
On 8 October 2010 14:53, Rakesh Mishra rakesh.mis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 I  am PHP 4  PHP 5 developer for last 6 yrs. Last year  also got Zend
 certification.
 Since now I have work on different CMS, Social Networking, telecome , horse
 racing domains.

 But now I am little bored with developing website. What other things I can
 do with PHP ?

 Even I believe my knowledge, interest,  market value  with PHP 5 is getting
 saturated.
 Do you guys suggest me what other thing I can learn or work which help me to
 keep my lust for PHP alive
 and also boost my career.

 Regards
 Rakesh


I'm building Windows Services (not Web Services) with PHP and an
enhanced pecl/win32service extension, in conjunction with
WScript.Shell to simulate threading and and WinCache for
inter-processing comms.

OK. It is a daft thing to do. But it is working and is replacing a
bunch of console apps written in .BAT with some .EXEs. The SysOps are
happier as it is just a normal windows services (so they can
stop/start/pause it). Shutdown/bootup server - all OK.


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[PHP] Re: php5 - website development - what next

2010-10-08 Thread Nathan Rixham

Rakesh Mishra wrote:

Hi All,

I  am PHP 4  PHP 5 developer for last 6 yrs. Last year  also got Zend
certification.
Since now I have work on different CMS, Social Networking, telecome , horse
racing domains.

But now I am little bored with developing website. What other things I can
do with PHP ?

Even I believe my knowledge, interest,  market value  with PHP 5 is getting
saturated.
Do you guys suggest me what other thing I can learn or work which help me to
keep my lust for PHP alive
and also boost my career.


I suggest you concentrate less on the language and more on:
 - interesting / challenging projects
 - using PHP with other new interesting technologies
 - applying design / programming paradigms from other languages in PHP
 - contributing to PHP internals

Status.net, GNU Social, DISO Project, lorea.cc and elgg all occupy a 
rather interesting project space with small but inspiring communities of 
people who like to push technical boundaries and merge technologies, 
particularly within the social space.


http://www.ushahidi.com/platform is a thriving project which combines 
technical excellence and forward thinking with real world large scale 
community needs, being critical in several major world events, even if 
you don't get involved, their code bases for ushahidi + related on 
http://github.com/ushahidi is brilliant, likewise the swiftriver project 
http://swift.ushahidi.com/ doesn't look much on the face of it but is 
really good - just check out the SwiftRiver Research at the right.


There are many interesting protocol based communities who often 
implement in PHP, and these can be rather interesting / challenging and 
active spaces - ActivityStreams, Salmon-Protocol, OneSocialWeb to name 
just a few.


On the technology side of things, you may want to consider going down 
the NoSQL route for a while, http://nosql-database.org/ gives a good 
summary of database - I'd recommend CouchDB, MongoDB and Redis for a 
nice well supported start that will introduce you to new design 
paradigms and bring many performance increases to your applications.


Alternatively you may find it refreshing to try some other languages, 
perhaps a functional language like Scala, OCaml or Haskell, or maybe in 
to a very active language such as ECMAScript (server side js) via 
something like http://node.js/ you may just find that you don't want to 
use PHP any more, or you may find that you want to apply the paradigms 
and lessons learned to PHP using the new features in 5.3


Hope that helps a little, I'll stop here because I could list projects 
till the end of time!


Many Regards

Nathan

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[PHP] Re: zip and mac safari

2010-10-08 Thread Nathan Rixham

M. Reuter wrote:

Hi,

does anyone know how to use a php script to zip a folder (with a
subfolder) so that safari can open it and not decompresses forever?


if it works in other browsers, and not in safari, then it's either a big 
in safari, in which case report it with an offending zip file - or it's 
a big in PHP / your zipping process which is handled gracefully by other 
browsers but not by safari, in which case report it too.


Best,

Nathan

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Re: [PHP] tedd's Friday Post ($ per line)

2010-10-08 Thread Nathan Rixham

tedd wrote:
Now, back to the question at hand -- what price would you sell a line of 
your code for?


Interesting case and question Tedd! Quite sure we all realise the answer 
is not black and white but various shades of grey, and I wouldn't fancy 
doing this for real - however, given the assumption that it was 
technically solid code average, and assuming it was a functional 
approach (as in there wasn't chunks of domain schema classes with 
nothing but getters and setters around / boiler plate junk), then:


  35-40 cents per line

The approach I've taken to working it out is to try and average out 
lines of code produced per 8 hour working day, allowing time for 
research, decision making, minor code reduction and refactoring, then 
adding a small offset for any time spend on documentation which would 
show further understanding and confidence in the code + make it more 
usable. Whitespace and a coding styles which produce more lines but the 
same amount of code not included. I've also made a small adjustment for 
the 'several years ago' all though I'm assuming this to be early 2000s 
and not the 1970s ;)


Anywhere near?

ps: tedd, please cc me in to the final answer as I won't have time to 
check the list for a while, and I'm quite interested in this one - kudos 
to you if you managed to do it and get both parties happy with the 
result though!


Best,

Nathan

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Re: [PHP] tedd's Friday Post ($ per line)

2010-10-08 Thread Nathan Rixham

Nathan Rixham wrote:

tedd wrote:
Now, back to the question at hand -- what price would you sell a line 
of your code for?


Just realised I responded to the wrong question - the answer was how I'd 
approach the original question What do you think he was paid?


For myself, I wouldn't place a price on a single line of code, you can 
have one for free :) if you want me to do 25,000 lines of code then 
it'll be circa £1 GBP per line, seeing as you aren't considering any of 
the other factors. Unless it's open source as I cc-zero all my open 
source / community stuff.


Interesting case and question Tedd! Quite sure we all realise the answer 
is not black and white but various shades of grey, and I wouldn't fancy 
doing this for real - however, given the assumption that it was 
technically solid code average, and assuming it was a functional 
approach (as in there wasn't chunks of domain schema classes with 
nothing but getters and setters around / boiler plate junk), then:


  35-40 cents per line

The approach I've taken to working it out is to try and average out 
lines of code produced per 8 hour working day, allowing time for 
research, decision making, minor code reduction and refactoring, then 
adding a small offset for any time spend on documentation which would 
show further understanding and confidence in the code + make it more 
usable. Whitespace and a coding styles which produce more lines but the 
same amount of code not included. I've also made a small adjustment for 
the 'several years ago' all though I'm assuming this to be early 2000s 
and not the 1970s ;)


Anywhere near?

ps: tedd, please cc me in to the final answer as I won't have time to 
check the list for a while, and I'm quite interested in this one - kudos 
to you if you managed to do it and get both parties happy with the 
result though!


Best,

Nathan



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Re: [PHP] which one is faster

2010-10-08 Thread Nathan Rixham

chris h wrote:

Saeed here's a quick (and dirty) test I ran:


$tests = 100;

$start = microtime(true);
for ($i=0; $i$tests; $i++) {

  $a = md5( rand() );
  $b = md5( rand() );

  $c = $a.$b;
}
var_dump( By concat op:\t. (microtime(true) - $start) );


that's not a fair test because you have rand() and md5() calls in there 
(something temporally varying)


Here's a quick test script which does 100 million iterations on both, 3 
times to get some half measurable results


$i = $its = 1;
$tests = 3;
$a = 'foo';
$b = 'bar';

while($tests--0) {
  $t = microtime(true);
  while($i--0) {
$c = $a$b;
  }
  echo 'time .: ' . (microtime(true)-$t) . PHP_EOL;
  $i = $its;
  $t = microtime(true);
  while($i--0) {
$c = $a.$b;
  }
  echo 'time : ' . (microtime(true)-$t) . PHP_EOL;
}

I also ran the tests in the opposite order just to ensure they were 
fair, results are that $a.$b (concatenation) averaged 22 seconds, and 
the $a$b approach was 28 seconds.


Thus, concatenation is faster - but you have to get up to circa 10 
million+ uses per second to use it.


Best,

Nathan

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Re: [PHP] Casting from parent class to child

2010-10-08 Thread Nathan Rixham

David Harkness wrote:

Casting does not change an object. You must copy the relevant value(s) from
the object returned into a new DateTimePlus. Since DateTime's constructor
takes only a string, and I assume it won't accept your format directly,


unless you implement __toString I believe (not tested)


you're better off converting the string into a Unix timestamp and creating a
new object from that. However, I leave that optimization to you. The
following code is sufficient:

$plus = new DateTimePlus();
$plus.setTimestamp(parent::createFromFormat(H.i d.m.Y,
$string).getTimestamp());
return $plus;

David




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[PHP] [IDEA] date_moonrise, date_moonset, and date_moon_info for calculating moonrise and moonset

2010-10-08 Thread ELY M.

I did a search thru all places on php.net for moonrise and moonset
functions or any comments about moonrise and moonset.
I can not find anything about moonrise and moonset.
I am not sure where to submit my ideas.
I would like to suggest to php developers to add in the moonrise and
moonset functions.
I think the moonrise and moonset functions should be added in php.
date_moonrise
date_moonset
date_moon_info
those functions would be great to have in future version of php.







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[PHP] What other languages do you use?

2010-10-08 Thread Nathan Rixham
As per the subject, not what other languages have you used, but what 
other languages do you currently use?


I guess it may also be interesting to know if:

(1) there's any particular reason for you using a different language 
(other than work/day-job/client requires it)


(2) about to jump in to another language

Best,

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Re: [PHP] [IDEA] date_moonrise, date_moonset, and date_moon_info for calculating moonrise and moonset

2010-10-08 Thread Daniel Brown
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 13:29, ELY M. s...@mboca.com wrote:
 I did a search thru all places on php.net for moonrise and moonset
 functions or any comments about moonrise and moonset.
 I can not find anything about moonrise and moonset.
 I am not sure where to submit my ideas.
 I would like to suggest to php developers to add in the moonrise and
 moonset functions.
 I think the moonrise and moonset functions should be added in php.
 date_moonrise
 date_moonset
 date_moon_info
 those functions would be great to have in future version of php.


Do it as a feature request at http://bugs.php.net/ and we'll look
into it.  In related matters, I just approved a user note with a code
snippet example for sunrise and sunset.

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Re: [PHP] What other languages do you use?

2010-10-08 Thread Daniel P. Brown
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 13:30, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote:
 As per the subject, not what other languages have you used, but what other
 languages do you currently use?

Spanish, Gaelic, and German, on occasion.

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Re: [PHP] Casting from parent class to child

2010-10-08 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote:
 David Harkness wrote:

 Casting does not change an object. You must copy the relevant value(s)
 from
 the object returned into a new DateTimePlus. Since DateTime's constructor
 takes only a string, and I assume it won't accept your format directly,

 unless you implement __toString I believe (not tested)


IMO, that would be a truly useful feature to add if you were extending
DateTime anyway.

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Re: [PHP] What other languages do you use?

2010-10-08 Thread Per Jessen
Nathan Rixham wrote:

 As per the subject, not what other languages have you used, but what
 other languages do you currently use?

French, German, English and Danish.  



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Re: [PHP] [IDEA] date_moonrise, date_moonset, and date_moon_info for calculating moonrise and moonset

2010-10-08 Thread Steve Staples

On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 13:33 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 13:29, ELY M. s...@mboca.com wrote:
  I did a search thru all places on php.net for moonrise and moonset
  functions or any comments about moonrise and moonset.
  I can not find anything about moonrise and moonset.
  I am not sure where to submit my ideas.
  I would like to suggest to php developers to add in the moonrise and
  moonset functions.
  I think the moonrise and moonset functions should be added in php.
  date_moonrise
  date_moonset
  date_moon_info
  those functions would be great to have in future version of php.
 
 
 Do it as a feature request at http://bugs.php.net/ and we'll look
 into it.  In related matters, I just approved a user note with a code
 snippet example for sunrise and sunset.
 
In his defense, he was talking abut moonrise, and moonset... in some
cases, the moon is up during the middle of the day... 

this originally started out a joke reply... but then after thinking
about what to say, I realized that the moonrise/set does not follow the
sun... crap, i hate my brain... LOL

on a side note, where would you even get this info?  is there a set
formula for sunrise/set?

Steve

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Re: [PHP] What other languages do you use?

2010-10-08 Thread Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote:

 Nathan Rixham wrote:
 
 As per the subject, not what other languages have you used, but what
 other languages do you currently use?
 
 French, German, English and Danish.
 

Wrt programming languages (and variations thereof), in order of usage, I
use C, PHP, C++, assembler, shell-script, XSLT with some occasional
HTML and Javascript thrown in for good measure :-).

 

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Re: [PHP] What other languages do you use?

2010-10-08 Thread Daniel P. Brown
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 13:43, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote:
 Nathan Rixham wrote:

 As per the subject, not what other languages have you used, but what
 other languages do you currently use?

 French, German, English and Danish.

Wenn große Geister gleich denken, Herr Jessen, wie geht es uns
beiden auf der gleichen Seite?  ;-P

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RE: [PHP] [IDEA] date_moonrise, date_moonset, and date_moon_info for calculating moonrise and moonset

2010-10-08 Thread Bob McConnell
From: Steve Staples

 On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 13:33 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 13:29, ELY M. s...@mboca.com wrote:
  I did a search thru all places on php.net for moonrise and moonset
  functions or any comments about moonrise and moonset.
  I can not find anything about moonrise and moonset.
  I am not sure where to submit my ideas.
  I would like to suggest to php developers to add in the moonrise
and
  moonset functions.
  I think the moonrise and moonset functions should be added in php.
  date_moonrise
  date_moonset
  date_moon_info
  those functions would be great to have in future version of php.
 
  Do it as a feature request at http://bugs.php.net/ and we'll
look
 into it.  In related matters, I just approved a user note with a code
 snippet example for sunrise and sunset.

 
 In his defense, he was talking abut moonrise, and moonset... in some
 cases, the moon is up during the middle of the day... 
 
 this originally started out a joke reply... but then after thinking
 about what to say, I realized that the moonrise/set does not follow
the
 sun... crap, i hate my brain... LOL
 
 on a side note, where would you even get this info?  is there a set
 formula for sunrise/set?

It would also require both latitude and longitude input parameters.
Rough guess in temperate zones is that for each 250 miles you move west,
it delays the event by 15 minutes. But when you get within 22 degrees of
a pole, the event may not occur for days, or weeks, or ...

Bob McConnell

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Re: [PHP] What other languages do you use?

2010-10-08 Thread David Harkness
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote:

 As per the subject, not what other languages have you used, but what other
 languages do you currently use?


At work: PHP and Java mostly with some Javascript and BASH scripting thrown
in for good measure. We use PHP for the website and Java for the
deployment/tools platform and any backend system that needs multithreading.

At play: Python and C++ for BUG Mod (Civ4 mod). Learning Lua for Civ5 but
have been too busy lately. :(

David


Re: [PHP] [IDEA] date_moonrise, date_moonset, and date_moon_info for calculating moonrise and moonset

2010-10-08 Thread Daniel P. Brown
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 13:55, Steve Staples sstap...@mnsi.net wrote:
 In his defense, he was talking abut moonrise, and moonset... in some
 cases, the moon is up during the middle of the day...

 this originally started out a joke reply... but then after thinking
 about what to say, I realized that the moonrise/set does not follow the
 sun... crap, i hate my brain... LOL

True, it wouldn't be enough to calculate it as an inverse of solar
traversal, but there are of course predetermined formulae for both
moon phases and its traversal based on longitudinal and latitudinal
coordinates, and adjustments for altitude and horizon variances.

 on a side note, where would you even get this info?  is there a set
 formula for sunrise/set?

Sure.  Look up sunrise and sunset times on Google and you'll see
they're readily available.  Then it's trivial to calculate axial tilt
and time elapse between periods of equinox to find the variances for
dates not already pre-calculated.

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Re: [PHP] [IDEA] date_moonrise, date_moonset, and date_moon_info for calculating moonrise and moonset

2010-10-08 Thread Daniel P. Brown
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 14:14, Bob McConnell r...@cbord.com wrote:

 It would also require both latitude and longitude input parameters.
 Rough guess in temperate zones is that for each 250 miles you move west,
 it delays the event by 15 minutes. But when you get within 22 degrees of
 a pole, the event may not occur for days, or weeks, or ...

Yeah, but unfortunately those places are sometimes rather
difficult to visit, which is rather unfortunate.  I have four decades
worth of things to shove where the sun don't shine, by order of
various folks.

By the way --- I realized moments after my previous reply that the
OP is actually the snippet submitter I mentioned in thread, and you
can see his work on the date_sun_info() function's manual page here:

http://php.net/date_sun_info

With a direct link to his submission here:

http://php.net/manual/en/function.date-sun-info.php#100332

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Re: [PHP] What other languages do you use?

2010-10-08 Thread Nathan Rixham

Per Jessen wrote:

Nathan Rixham wrote:


As per the subject, not what other languages have you used, but what
other languages do you currently use?


French, German, English and Danish.  



Forhåbentlig ikke alle zur en même temps


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Re: [PHP] What other languages do you use?

2010-10-08 Thread Nathan Rixham

Daniel P. Brown wrote:

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 13:30, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote:

As per the subject, not what other languages have you used, but what other
languages do you currently use?


Spanish, Gaelic, and German, on occasion.


Ahhh, but have you mastered Ambiguity yet?

ps: thanks for that Dan, you've set them off now ;)

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RE: [PHP] What other languages do you use?

2010-10-08 Thread Bob McConnell
From: Nathan Rixham

 As per the subject, not what other languages have you used, but what 
 other languages do you currently use?
 
 I guess it may also be interesting to know if:
 
 (1) there's any particular reason for you using a different language 
 (other than work/day-job/client requires it)
 
 (2) about to jump in to another language

C, Perl and Java.

Been programming embedded devices and credit card terminals in C (and
ASM) for about three decades. Still have to maintain that code. (We are
supporting some devices that went out of production in 1992.)

Have dabbled in Perl for about half of that time. Started out doing
Perl-CGI for a web site. It's useful for generating test data to emulate
random events, test drivers for communications protocols and to control
test systems.

I'm still learning both PHP and Java. I know just enough of each to be
very dangerous.

I'm most comfortable in C, so I lean towards that for casual projects at
home.

Bob McConnell

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Re: [PHP] What other languages do you use?

2010-10-08 Thread Per Jessen
Nathan Rixham wrote:

 Per Jessen wrote:
 Nathan Rixham wrote:
 
 As per the subject, not what other languages have you used, but what
 other languages do you currently use?
 
 French, German, English and Danish.
 
 
 Forhåbentlig ikke alle zur en même temps
 

Ork jo, das ist doch ikke ein Problem. 



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Re: [PHP] What other languages do you use?

2010-10-08 Thread Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote:

 Nathan Rixham wrote:
 
 Per Jessen wrote:
 Nathan Rixham wrote:
 
 As per the subject, not what other languages have you used, but
 what other languages do you currently use?
 
 French, German, English and Danish.
 
 
 Forhåbentlig ikke alle zur en même temps
 
 
 Ork jo, das ist doch ikke ein Problem.
 

Blimey, how did I manage to leave out two  obviously il-y-a une
probleme, after all. 



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Re: [PHP] What other languages do you use?

2010-10-08 Thread Tamara Temple


On Oct 8, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Nathan Rixham wrote:

As per the subject, not what other languages have you used, but what  
other languages do you currently use?




Perl, Ruby, Javascript, Sh, C. Planning on picking up Python.


I guess it may also be interesting to know if:

(1) there's any particular reason for you using a different language  
(other than work/day-job/client requires it)




Usually just choose the language that best fits the application at  
hand. No real magic to it.



(2) about to jump in to another language



I mentioned Python above, not as a replacement for any of the other  
languages, but just because I want to know it.



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Re: [PHP] What other languages do you use?

2010-10-08 Thread shiplu
At home I always speak in Bangla. But at work I have to speak in English.
I watch Hindi movies well. So I understand Hindi too.

I used,
C
Java
C++
C#
ActionScript
Javascript
Perl
PHP
Bash
LISP

Currently I am working in
LISP
C
C++

At home I play with Bash, Javascript, PHP, C

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Re: [PHP] Re: zip and mac safari

2010-10-08 Thread TR Shaw
I don't have any problem in this regard.

On Oct 8, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Nathan Rixham wrote:

 M. Reuter wrote:
 Hi,
 does anyone know how to use a php script to zip a folder (with a
 subfolder) so that safari can open it and not decompresses forever?
 
 if it works in other browsers, and not in safari, then it's either a big in 
 safari, in which case report it with an offending zip file - or it's a big in 
 PHP / your zipping process which is handled gracefully by other browsers but 
 not by safari, in which case report it too.
 
 Best,
 
 Nathan
 
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RE: [PHP] [IDEA] date_moonrise, date_moonset, and date_moon_info for calculating moonrise and moonset

2010-10-08 Thread Tommy Pham
 -Original Message-
 From: Bob McConnell [mailto:r...@cbord.com]
 Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 11:15 AM
 To: sstap...@mnsi.net; php-general@lists.php.net
 Subject: RE: [PHP] [IDEA] date_moonrise, date_moonset, and
 date_moon_info for calculating moonrise and moonset
 
 From: Steve Staples
 
  On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 13:33 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote:
  On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 13:29, ELY M. s...@mboca.com wrote:
   I did a search thru all places on php.net for moonrise and moonset
   functions or any comments about moonrise and moonset.
   I can not find anything about moonrise and moonset.
   I am not sure where to submit my ideas.
   I would like to suggest to php developers to add in the moonrise
 and
   moonset functions.
   I think the moonrise and moonset functions should be added in php.
   date_moonrise
   date_moonset
   date_moon_info
   those functions would be great to have in future version of php.
  
   Do it as a feature request at http://bugs.php.net/ and we'll
 look
  into it.  In related matters, I just approved a user note with a code
  snippet example for sunrise and sunset.
 
 
  In his defense, he was talking abut moonrise, and moonset... in some
  cases, the moon is up during the middle of the day...
 
  this originally started out a joke reply... but then after thinking
  about what to say, I realized that the moonrise/set does not follow
 the
  sun... crap, i hate my brain... LOL
 
  on a side note, where would you even get this info?  is there a set
  formula for sunrise/set?
 
 It would also require both latitude and longitude input parameters.
 Rough guess in temperate zones is that for each 250 miles you move west,
it
 delays the event by 15 minutes. But when you get within 22 degrees of a
 pole, the event may not occur for days, or weeks, or ...
 
 Bob McConnell
 

The latitude and longitude would only give relative perspective view.  For
accurate measurement, doesn't it requires time of year also since it depends
on rotations of earth around the sun and how far/close the earth to sun,
which will affect the moon's rotation too?  Just remembering my high school
AP Physics on gravitational forces.

Regards,
Tommy


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Re: [PHP] Re: php5 - website development - what next

2010-10-08 Thread Sharl.Jimh.Tsin
how about woking on open source projects?

Best regards,
Sharl.Jimh.Tsin (From China)



2010/10/8 Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com:
 Rakesh Mishra wrote:

 Hi All,

 I  am PHP 4  PHP 5 developer for last 6 yrs. Last year  also got Zend
 certification.
 Since now I have work on different CMS, Social Networking, telecome ,
 horse
 racing domains.

 But now I am little bored with developing website. What other things I can
 do with PHP ?

 Even I believe my knowledge, interest,  market value  with PHP 5 is
 getting
 saturated.
 Do you guys suggest me what other thing I can learn or work which help me
 to
 keep my lust for PHP alive
 and also boost my career.

 I suggest you concentrate less on the language and more on:
  - interesting / challenging projects
  - using PHP with other new interesting technologies
  - applying design / programming paradigms from other languages in PHP
  - contributing to PHP internals

 Status.net, GNU Social, DISO Project, lorea.cc and elgg all occupy a rather
 interesting project space with small but inspiring communities of people who
 like to push technical boundaries and merge technologies, particularly
 within the social space.

 http://www.ushahidi.com/platform is a thriving project which combines
 technical excellence and forward thinking with real world large scale
 community needs, being critical in several major world events, even if you
 don't get involved, their code bases for ushahidi + related on
 http://github.com/ushahidi is brilliant, likewise the swiftriver project
 http://swift.ushahidi.com/ doesn't look much on the face of it but is really
 good - just check out the SwiftRiver Research at the right.

 There are many interesting protocol based communities who often implement in
 PHP, and these can be rather interesting / challenging and active spaces -
 ActivityStreams, Salmon-Protocol, OneSocialWeb to name just a few.

 On the technology side of things, you may want to consider going down the
 NoSQL route for a while, http://nosql-database.org/ gives a good summary of
 database - I'd recommend CouchDB, MongoDB and Redis for a nice well
 supported start that will introduce you to new design paradigms and bring
 many performance increases to your applications.

 Alternatively you may find it refreshing to try some other languages,
 perhaps a functional language like Scala, OCaml or Haskell, or maybe in to a
 very active language such as ECMAScript (server side js) via something like
 http://node.js/ you may just find that you don't want to use PHP any more,
 or you may find that you want to apply the paradigms and lessons learned to
 PHP using the new features in 5.3

 Hope that helps a little, I'll stop here because I could list projects till
 the end of time!

 Many Regards

 Nathan

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Re: [PHP] Re: php5 - website development - what next

2010-10-08 Thread Laruence

 Hi:
   good idea.
   I need assistance.
  lol,  http://code.google.com/p/yafphp/


On 10/09/2010 09:22, Sharl.Jimh.Tsin wrote:

how about woking on open source projects?

Best regards,
Sharl.Jimh.Tsin (From China)



2010/10/8 Nathan Rixhamnrix...@gmail.com:

Rakesh Mishra wrote:

Hi All,

I  am PHP 4  PHP 5 developer for last 6 yrs. Last year  also got Zend
certification.
Since now I have work on different CMS, Social Networking, telecome ,
horse
racing domains.

But now I am little bored with developing website. What other things I can
do with PHP ?

Even I believe my knowledge, interest,  market value  with PHP 5 is
getting
saturated.
Do you guys suggest me what other thing I can learn or work which help me
to
keep my lust for PHP alive
and also boost my career.

I suggest you concentrate less on the language and more on:
  - interesting / challenging projects
  - using PHP with other new interesting technologies
  - applying design / programming paradigms from other languages in PHP
  - contributing to PHP internals

Status.net, GNU Social, DISO Project, lorea.cc and elgg all occupy a rather
interesting project space with small but inspiring communities of people who
like to push technical boundaries and merge technologies, particularly
within the social space.

http://www.ushahidi.com/platform is a thriving project which combines
technical excellence and forward thinking with real world large scale
community needs, being critical in several major world events, even if you
don't get involved, their code bases for ushahidi + related on
http://github.com/ushahidi is brilliant, likewise the swiftriver project
http://swift.ushahidi.com/ doesn't look much on the face of it but is really
good - just check out the SwiftRiver Research at the right.

There are many interesting protocol based communities who often implement in
PHP, and these can be rather interesting / challenging and active spaces -
ActivityStreams, Salmon-Protocol, OneSocialWeb to name just a few.

On the technology side of things, you may want to consider going down the
NoSQL route for a while, http://nosql-database.org/ gives a good summary of
database - I'd recommend CouchDB, MongoDB and Redis for a nice well
supported start that will introduce you to new design paradigms and bring
many performance increases to your applications.

Alternatively you may find it refreshing to try some other languages,
perhaps a functional language like Scala, OCaml or Haskell, or maybe in to a
very active language such as ECMAScript (server side js) via something like
http://node.js/ you may just find that you don't want to use PHP any more,
or you may find that you want to apply the paradigms and lessons learned to
PHP using the new features in 5.3

Hope that helps a little, I'll stop here because I could list projects till
the end of time!

Many Regards

Nathan

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