php-general Digest 6 Feb 2011 05:19:30 -0000 Issue 7168
php-general Digest 6 Feb 2011 05:19:30 - Issue 7168 Topics (messages 311157 through 311165): Design question 311157 by: lists.pruimphotography.com 311158 by: Ashley Sheridan 311164 by: Paul M Foster 311165 by: lists.pruimphotography.com Bilingual strtotime() 311159 by: Alexis 311160 by: Per Jessen 311161 by: Alexis 311162 by: David Hutto 311163 by: David Hutto Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: php-general-digest-subscr...@lists.php.net To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: php-general-digest-unsubscr...@lists.php.net To post to the list, e-mail: php-gene...@lists.php.net -- ---BeginMessage--- Morning everyone! I have a design question... No it's not about the interior of my house... although I could use some help with that as well... I am working on a framework for my own use (And maybe one day will beat out the popular frameworks! Hey I can dream right? :)) and to increase my knowledge. Here's my current index page: DJ_doctype(HTML4S); DJ_head(Double J FrameWork, $cfgCss, $cfgMeta); DJ_modules(navigation, option); DJ_page(main_content.html, mainContent); DJ_dbconnect($cfgDatabase); DJ_footer(copywrite, Double J Web Design); It all works perfectly but I'm starting to question having a bunch of function calls like that or should I simply have a big master DJ_displayPage() call? or should I have my framework create the html files? Has anyone gone down this road before? any pitfalls I should watch out for that aren't in google yet? :) Thanks everyone! Jason Pruim ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 11:11 -0500, li...@pruimphotography.com wrote: Morning everyone! I have a design question... No it's not about the interior of my house... although I could use some help with that as well... I am working on a framework for my own use (And maybe one day will beat out the popular frameworks! Hey I can dream right? :)) and to increase my knowledge. Here's my current index page: DJ_doctype(HTML4S); DJ_head(Double J FrameWork, $cfgCss, $cfgMeta); DJ_modules(navigation, option); DJ_page(main_content.html, mainContent); DJ_dbconnect($cfgDatabase); DJ_footer(copywrite, Double J Web Design); It all works perfectly but I'm starting to question having a bunch of function calls like that or should I simply have a big master DJ_displayPage() call? or should I have my framework create the html files? Has anyone gone down this road before? any pitfalls I should watch out for that aren't in google yet? :) Thanks everyone! Jason Pruim I guess it all depends on what you need. A little while back there was a discussion on the list about whether or not to leave all content dynamic or have the PHP CMS create the various .html pages required. There are pros and cons to each method. As for the various calls vs a single call to display the page, that depends on how you will be using it. Personally, I'd prefer using one call to something like your call to DJ_displayPage() which itself can accept various parameters or an array of parameters that then makes the more individual calls to the other functions. Anything to reduce typing while still being maintainable is never a bad thing in my book, unless it becomes a crazy long list of chained calls! Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 11:11:57AM -0500, li...@pruimphotography.com wrote: Morning everyone! I have a design question... No it's not about the interior of my house... although I could use some help with that as well... I am working on a framework for my own use (And maybe one day will beat out the popular frameworks! Hey I can dream right? :)) and to increase my knowledge. Here's my current index page: DJ_doctype(HTML4S); DJ_head(Double J FrameWork, $cfgCss, $cfgMeta); DJ_modules(navigation, option); DJ_page(main_content.html, mainContent); DJ_dbconnect($cfgDatabase); DJ_footer(copywrite, Double J Web Design); Copywrite should be copyright in this context. It all works perfectly but I'm starting to question having a bunch of function calls like that or should I simply have a big master DJ_displayPage() call? Is this index page a front controller, or are there separate page controllers? If the calls are all *identical*, then you can stuff them into a single function call. The biggest problem with this is variable visibility. You'll have to monitor that and decide if it's worth it. In my case, I use page controllers where all the important variables are declared. If I put a render() function at the bottom, I'd have to pass in all those variables (on the stack) rather than simply have them visible to the template page that I include() at the bottom of the page controller. or
Re: [PHP] Re: bread and buytter php
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 21:57, David Robley da...@robley.net.au wrote: Well, I fear I could not be more specific as your request fitted in the category of IDFMA That's too general, because I didn't fsck your aunt either. And yes, it was still 10:00p Friday night on the east coast of the US when you wrote. -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager Documentation, Webmaster Teams http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Design question
Morning everyone! I have a design question... No it's not about the interior of my house... although I could use some help with that as well... I am working on a framework for my own use (And maybe one day will beat out the popular frameworks! Hey I can dream right? :)) and to increase my knowledge. Here's my current index page: DJ_doctype(HTML4S); DJ_head(Double J FrameWork, $cfgCss, $cfgMeta); DJ_modules(navigation, option); DJ_page(main_content.html, mainContent); DJ_dbconnect($cfgDatabase); DJ_footer(copywrite, Double J Web Design); It all works perfectly but I'm starting to question having a bunch of function calls like that or should I simply have a big master DJ_displayPage() call? or should I have my framework create the html files? Has anyone gone down this road before? any pitfalls I should watch out for that aren't in google yet? :) Thanks everyone! Jason Pruim -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Design question
On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 11:11 -0500, li...@pruimphotography.com wrote: Morning everyone! I have a design question... No it's not about the interior of my house... although I could use some help with that as well... I am working on a framework for my own use (And maybe one day will beat out the popular frameworks! Hey I can dream right? :)) and to increase my knowledge. Here's my current index page: DJ_doctype(HTML4S); DJ_head(Double J FrameWork, $cfgCss, $cfgMeta); DJ_modules(navigation, option); DJ_page(main_content.html, mainContent); DJ_dbconnect($cfgDatabase); DJ_footer(copywrite, Double J Web Design); It all works perfectly but I'm starting to question having a bunch of function calls like that or should I simply have a big master DJ_displayPage() call? or should I have my framework create the html files? Has anyone gone down this road before? any pitfalls I should watch out for that aren't in google yet? :) Thanks everyone! Jason Pruim I guess it all depends on what you need. A little while back there was a discussion on the list about whether or not to leave all content dynamic or have the PHP CMS create the various .html pages required. There are pros and cons to each method. As for the various calls vs a single call to display the page, that depends on how you will be using it. Personally, I'd prefer using one call to something like your call to DJ_displayPage() which itself can accept various parameters or an array of parameters that then makes the more individual calls to the other functions. Anything to reduce typing while still being maintainable is never a bad thing in my book, unless it becomes a crazy long list of chained calls! Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
[PHP] Bilingual strtotime()
Hi, Living in Canada, and being a bilingual country, I have data I am processing which includes dates in both English and French. I was wondering if there was a way to use the strtotime() function when the months are in one or the other of the above two languages? Just to add to it, for French, they may or may not have the various accents. The data is in no specific order, so one could be in English, the next in French, then back to English. All I can think of, is to create an array to 'translate' the French months into English, but I was wondering if there is an easier way? If not, how in regular expressions, would I go about ignoring accents please? Cheers Alexis -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Bilingual strtotime()
Alexis wrote: Hi, Living in Canada, and being a bilingual country, I have data I am processing which includes dates in both English and French. I was wondering if there was a way to use the strtotime() function when the months are in one or the other of the above two languages? Sure, strftime() is locale-sensitive. Set the locale(). -- Per Jessen, Zürich (4.4°C) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Bilingual strtotime()
On 05/02/11 13:23, Per Jessen wrote: Alexis wrote: Hi, Living in Canada, and being a bilingual country, I have data I am processing which includes dates in both English and French. I was wondering if there was a way to use the strtotime() function when the months are in one or the other of the above two languages? Sure, strftime() is locale-sensitive. Set the locale(). Thanks But what if the locale is in two possible languages, all mixed together? I suppose I could set it to one, check if the output is valid, if not, set it to the other. Alexis -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Bilingual strtotime()
Either form should be day/month/year/time, or somewhere in that order. From what i know, it shouldn't change much no matter the language. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Bilingual strtotime()
Just check for the initial difference you see in the formats of either. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Design question
On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 11:11:57AM -0500, li...@pruimphotography.com wrote: Morning everyone! I have a design question... No it's not about the interior of my house... although I could use some help with that as well... I am working on a framework for my own use (And maybe one day will beat out the popular frameworks! Hey I can dream right? :)) and to increase my knowledge. Here's my current index page: DJ_doctype(HTML4S); DJ_head(Double J FrameWork, $cfgCss, $cfgMeta); DJ_modules(navigation, option); DJ_page(main_content.html, mainContent); DJ_dbconnect($cfgDatabase); DJ_footer(copywrite, Double J Web Design); Copywrite should be copyright in this context. It all works perfectly but I'm starting to question having a bunch of function calls like that or should I simply have a big master DJ_displayPage() call? Is this index page a front controller, or are there separate page controllers? If the calls are all *identical*, then you can stuff them into a single function call. The biggest problem with this is variable visibility. You'll have to monitor that and decide if it's worth it. In my case, I use page controllers where all the important variables are declared. If I put a render() function at the bottom, I'd have to pass in all those variables (on the stack) rather than simply have them visible to the template page that I include() at the bottom of the page controller. or should I have my framework create the html files? Has anyone gone down this road before? any pitfalls I should watch out for that aren't in google yet? :) Some of this depends on your overall application architecture, which is where the front contoller/page controller question above comes from. Paul -- Paul M. Foster http://noferblatz.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Design question
On Feb 5, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 11:11 -0500, li...@pruimphotography.com wrote: Morning everyone! I have a design question... No it's not about the interior of my house... although I could use some help with that as well... I am working on a framework for my own use (And maybe one day will beat out the popular frameworks! Hey I can dream right? :)) and to increase my knowledge. Here's my current index page: DJ_doctype(HTML4S); DJ_head(Double J FrameWork, $cfgCss, $cfgMeta); DJ_modules(navigation, option); DJ_page(main_content.html, mainContent); DJ_dbconnect($cfgDatabase); DJ_footer(copywrite, Double J Web Design); It all works perfectly but I'm starting to question having a bunch of function calls like that or should I simply have a big master DJ_displayPage() call? or should I have my framework create the html files? Has anyone gone down this road before? any pitfalls I should watch out for that aren't in google yet? :) Thanks everyone! Jason Pruim I guess it all depends on what you need. A little while back there was a discussion on the list about whether or not to leave all content dynamic or have the PHP CMS create the various .html pages required. There are pros and cons to each method. I'll definitely be looking that thread up! I got a little behind in my reading and must have missed it. As for the various calls vs a single call to display the page, that depends on how you will be using it. Personally, I'd prefer using one call to something like your call to DJ_displayPage() which itself can accept various parameters or an array of parameters that then makes the more individual calls to the other functions. Anything to reduce typing while still being maintainable is never a bad thing in my book, unless it becomes a crazy long list of chained calls! That last sentence is the kicker... That's where it gets hard hehe. When is too much too much? And I am guessing that is a decision that only I as the programmer can make... At least until someone uses my framework and complains about it! :) Thanks Ash! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Design question
On Feb 5, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Paul M Foster wrote: On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 11:11:57AM -0500, li...@pruimphotography.com wrote: Morning everyone! I have a design question... No it's not about the interior of my house... although I could use some help with that as well... I am working on a framework for my own use (And maybe one day will beat out the popular frameworks! Hey I can dream right? :)) and to increase my knowledge. Here's my current index page: DJ_doctype(HTML4S); DJ_head(Double J FrameWork, $cfgCss, $cfgMeta); DJ_modules(navigation, option); DJ_page(main_content.html, mainContent); DJ_dbconnect($cfgDatabase); DJ_footer(copywrite, Double J Web Design); Copywrite should be copyright in this context. It all works perfectly but I'm starting to question having a bunch of function calls like that or should I simply have a big master DJ_displayPage() call? Is this index page a front controller, or are there separate page controllers? If the calls are all *identical*, then you can stuff them into a single function call. The biggest problem with this is variable visibility. You'll have to monitor that and decide if it's worth it. In my case, I use page controllers where all the important variables are declared. If I put a render() function at the bottom, I'd have to pass in all those variables (on the stack) rather than simply have them visible to the template page that I include() at the bottom of the page controller. Right now in my simple test pages the variables are very standard but I will keep an eye on it to see if I need to change to a different system. I'm leaning more towards doing a page controller. I've always liked the way that I can simplify the display of pages especially with regards to updates in the layout by just having a index page that controls the entire site. or should I have my framework create the html files? Has anyone gone down this road before? any pitfalls I should watch out for that aren't in google yet? :) Some of this depends on your overall application architecture, which is where the front contoller/page controller question above comes from. Thanks for the insight! I'll be keeping these points in mind in my work! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
