Re: [PHP] book quest
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote: On 9/28/2011 3:26 PM, Bastien Koert wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Kirk Bailey kbai...@howlermonkey.net wrote: The best book for a beginner? No, don't tell me php.net, I hear that one already, and while it is indeed good, I want something in a dead tree edition I can canny around and smoke as needed. -- end Very Truly yours, - Kirk Bailey, Largo Florida kniht +-+ | BOX | +-+ think -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php I had great success with Wrox PHP Programming and PHP Essentials by Julie C. Meloni The latter is dated, but was clearly written. PHP Essentials (first edition) by Julie C. Meloni was the first book about PHP that I ever bought. I did not find it very useful. The second book was Core PHP First Edition by Leon Atkinson. It was more like an encyclopedia/dictionary with some decent examples. Around 2001 I started participating the general mailing list. I haven't bought another book on PHP since. PHP.net manual, the php-general mailing list and the wonderful members of this list, and Google have provided answers for all the questions I have ever needed to ask since. Jim Lucas Is there something wrong with the PHP.net manual? Or you just want something physical to be able read any where and stay unplugged? If the latter and there's nothing wrong with the official manual, try downloading the chm or single html file and print as you go. No need to lug around thick that manual/reference ;) Regards, Tommy
Re: [PHP] book quest
I'm a newbie in PHP technology and what I started with PHP was googling for PHP + ~tutorial ~getting started which results as this page http://www.google.com.vn/search?aq=fgcx=wsourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=PHP+%2B+~tutorial+~%22getting+started%22 From that list, I can have almost all kind of beginner stuff for a newbie ^_^ Regards, Nam On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:20 AM, Kirk Bailey kbai...@howlermonkey.netwrote: The best book for a beginner? No, don't tell me php.net, I hear that one already, and while it is indeed good, I want something in a dead tree edition I can canny around and smoke as needed. -- end Very Truly yours, - Kirk Bailey, Largo Florida kniht +-+ | BOX | +-+ think -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Nam
Re: [PHP] book quest
Is there something wrong with the PHP.net manual? Or you just want something physical to be able read any where and stay unplugged? If the latter and there's nothing wrong with the official manual, try downloading the chm or single html file and print as you go. No need to lug around thick that manual/reference ;) Regards, Tommy I'm not the original poster, but I have a response to this: I didn't find that there was anything wrong with the PHP.net manual, except that it wasn't a book about learning to program. It's a fantastic reference guide; if I can't remember what order the inputs to that one function go in, it's my first resort. But I prefer to read paper for learning theory, and I find it more useful to flip through pages trying to find something I half remember than to click through links. Put simply, I like to learn the basics from books rather than web pages. -Andy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] book quest
On 2011-09-29, at 8:53 AM, Andy McKenzie wrote: Is there something wrong with the PHP.net manual? Or you just want something physical to be able read any where and stay unplugged? If the latter and there's nothing wrong with the official manual, try downloading the chm or single html file and print as you go. No need to lug around thick that manual/reference ;) Regards, Tommy I didn't find that there was anything wrong with the PHP.net manual, except that it wasn't a book about learning to program. It's a fantastic reference guide; if I can't remember what order the inputs to that one function go in, it's my first resort. But I prefer to read paper for learning theory, and I find it more useful to flip through pages trying to find something I half remember than to click through links. Put simply, I like to learn the basics from books rather than web pages. -- And as the OP said, something that they can carry around - websites don't always cut it on the morning commute! (Although I hope the OP wouldn't smoke anything!) I too prefer books, as they are usually organized as a training course, starting you with the basics and walking you through a logical progression of learning, as well as giving real-world lessons and experience. Not saying that php.net is or isn't, but more often than not, the manuals that come with software are organized by sections or features, and do not give you the basics from which to start. It's no good to start with This is the drawing tool, if you don't know how to create a canvas to draw on. Reference books/sites are good once you know the basics on proper techniques, best practices and sensible workflows, and you can now expand into the full features that the software can offer. Plus, they can target your skills and desired learning - am currently researching Drupal, and have found some books that teach the basics on using it within its limits, and then others that teach how to build your own modules and plugins. Depending on what you are looking for, you can quickly target the skills you need to learn. And, is easier to make your notes in the margins on a piece of paper! Having said that, one of the main books I used for PHP was Apress' Beginning PHP and MySQL, which is now in a 4th edition: http://www.apress.com/9781430231141 It provided a logical approach to both technologies and how to integrate them, all in one book. Then get one that focuses on security. O'Reilly has one (or more), but the one I picked up was Securing PHP Web Applications: http://www.amazon.ca/Securing-PHP-Applications-Tricia-Ballad/dp/0321534344 and was a good read. I just wish book publishers offered an upgrade path if you bought an earlier edition, the way software publishers do! Perhaps that will be the greatest advantage an iPad or Kobo will have over paper. George Langley Multimedia Developer
Re: [PHP] book quest
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:12 AM, George Langley george.lang...@shaw.cawrote: On 2011-09-29, at 8:53 AM, Andy McKenzie wrote: Is there something wrong with the PHP.net manual? Or you just want something physical to be able read any where and stay unplugged? If the latter and there's nothing wrong with the official manual, try downloading the chm or single html file and print as you go. No need to lug around thick that manual/reference ;) Regards, Tommy I didn't find that there was anything wrong with the PHP.net manual, except that it wasn't a book about learning to program. It's a fantastic reference guide; if I can't remember what order the inputs to that one function go in, it's my first resort. But I prefer to read paper for learning theory, and I find it more useful to flip through pages trying to find something I half remember than to click through links. Put simply, I like to learn the basics from books rather than web pages. -- And as the OP said, something that they can carry around - websites don't always cut it on the morning commute! (Although I hope the OP wouldn't smoke anything!) I too prefer books, as they are usually organized as a training course, starting you with the basics and walking you through a logical progression of learning, as well as giving real-world lessons and experience. Not saying that php.net is or isn't, but more often than not, the manuals that come with software are organized by sections or features, and do not give you the basics from which to start. It's no good to start with This is the drawing tool, if you don't know how to create a canvas to draw on. Reference books/sites are good once you know the basics on proper techniques, best practices and sensible workflows, and you can now expand into the full features that the software can offer. Plus, they can target your skills and desired learning - am currently researching Drupal, and have found some books that teach the basics on using it within its limits, and then others that teach how to build your own modules and plugins. Depending on what you are looking for, you can quickly target the skills you need to learn. And, is easier to make your notes in the margins on a piece of paper! Having said that, one of the main books I used for PHP was Apress' Beginning PHP and MySQL, which is now in a 4th edition: http://www.apress.com/9781430231141 It provided a logical approach to both technologies and how to integrate them, all in one book. Then get one that focuses on security. O'Reilly has one (or more), but the one I picked up was Securing PHP Web Applications: http://www.amazon.ca/Securing-PHP-Applications-Tricia-Ballad/dp/0321534344 and was a good read. I just wish book publishers offered an upgrade path if you bought an earlier edition, the way software publishers do! Perhaps that will be the greatest advantage an iPad or Kobo will have over paper. George Langley Multimedia Developer @Andy and George From the layout of the official manual, whilst it doesn't have the traditional method of explaining as textbooks, to me, it does however progress as you mentioned: Installation and Configuration - same as any PHP book I've seen though the other books may not explain all different methods and/or different platforms as the official. +1 Language Reference - Basic Syntax - Types - Variables - Constants - Expressions - Operators - Control Structures - Functions - etc... @George, As for morning commute, if you're driving, you shouldn't be reading anything. :) That's why I mentioned 'print'. Printing as you read/progress means carrying less than entire book. Any decent book will range in about 400+ pages. Another good side to printing as you go is that a thick book wouldn't seem overwhelming for beginners as to how much information they have to digest and absorb, especially someone who is new to IT and not used to reading thick books/manuals. As for the book giving real world experiences, that's only to give you small idea of what you _may_ encounter. Personally, I find that too broad and in depth to encompass in a book unless it's a(n) auto/biography. A good example to that is accessing database. How do you explain to someone new which he/she should use and why: straight access via client library, ODBC, PDO, abstraction/wrappers, ORM, and/or any combination there of. Although this requires some understanding of PHP, I don't recall any book hinting or briefly explaining all the possible methods of DB access. A long time ago, I wrote an abstraction wrapper that would allow me to access any DB that PHP supports and allow simultaneous connections to same and/or different DBs because my need was there. That same wrapper would allow DB specific operations too. IIRC, this was long before various PDO drivers, namely MS SQLServer, were available and became popular
[PHP] book quest
The best book for a beginner? No, don't tell me php.net, I hear that one already, and while it is indeed good, I want something in a dead tree edition I can canny around and smoke as needed. -- end Very Truly yours, - Kirk Bailey, Largo Florida kniht +-+ | BOX | +-+ think -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] book quest
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Kirk Bailey kbai...@howlermonkey.net wrote: The best book for a beginner? No, don't tell me php.net, I hear that one already, and while it is indeed good, I want something in a dead tree edition I can canny around and smoke as needed. -- end Very Truly yours, - Kirk Bailey, Largo Florida kniht +-+ | BOX | +-+ think -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php I had great success with Wrox PHP Programming and PHP Essentials by Julie C. Meloni The latter is dated, but was clearly written. -- Bastien Cat, the other other white meat -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] book quest
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Kirk Bailey kbai...@howlermonkey.net wrote: The best book for a beginner? No, don't tell me php.net, I hear that one already, and while it is indeed good, I want something in a dead tree edition I can canny around and smoke as needed. -- end Very Truly yours, - Kirk Bailey, Largo Florida kniht +-+ | BOX | +-+ think -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php I agree with Bastien -- I've had great luck with the PHP books. Beginning PHP4 has a permanent place on my shelf, even though PHP4 is outdated. Beginning PHP5.3 hasn't quite supplanted it as a concept book, but is my go-to for here's a way to solve this particular problem using a new version of PHP book. -Andy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] book quest
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 19:13, Andy McKenzie amckenz...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Bastien -- I've had great luck with the PHP books. Beginning PHP4 has a permanent place on my shelf, even though PHP4 is outdated. Beginning PHP5.3 hasn't quite supplanted it as a concept book, but is my go-to for here's a way to solve this particular problem using a new version of PHP book. I'm still waiting for the day when folks on this list get together and say, let's put all of our notes together, as beginners and intermediates, and put together a book for the newcomers, from the newcomers, by the newcomers, who can relate to them without the taint of overexperience. If properly presented, it would not only be easy to shop to publishers, but it could also be one of the first truly collaborative publications to exist on biological remnants. -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] book quest
I agree with Daniel. I would be willing to contribute to that type of collaborative initiative. Best, Christopher Lee -Original Message- From: paras...@gmail.com [mailto:paras...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Brown Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 7:24 PM To: Andy McKenzie Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] book quest On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 19:13, Andy McKenzie amckenz...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Bastien -- I've had great luck with the PHP books. Beginning PHP4 has a permanent place on my shelf, even though PHP4 is outdated. Beginning PHP5.3 hasn't quite supplanted it as a concept book, but is my go-to for here's a way to solve this particular problem using a new version of PHP book. I'm still waiting for the day when folks on this list get together and say, let's put all of our notes together, as beginners and intermediates, and put together a book for the newcomers, from the newcomers, by the newcomers, who can relate to them without the taint of overexperience. If properly presented, it would not only be easy to shop to publishers, but it could also be one of the first truly collaborative publications to exist on biological remnants. -- /Daniel P. Brown Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] book quest
On 09/28/2011 06:23 PM, Daniel Brown wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 19:13, Andy McKenzie amckenz...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Bastien -- I've had great luck with the PHP books. Beginning PHP4 has a permanent place on my shelf, even though PHP4 is outdated. Beginning PHP5.3 hasn't quite supplanted it as a concept book, but is my go-to for here's a way to solve this particular problem using a new version of PHP book. I'm still waiting for the day when folks on this list get together and say, let's put all of our notes together, as beginners and intermediates, and put together a book for the newcomers, from the newcomers, by the newcomers, who can relate to them without the taint of overexperience. If properly presented, it would not only be easy to shop to publishers, but it could also be one of the first truly collaborative publications to exist on biological remnants. Why are you waiting for the day Dan? Just do it! -- Thanks! -Shawn http://www.spidean.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] book quest
On 9/28/2011 3:26 PM, Bastien Koert wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Kirk Bailey kbai...@howlermonkey.net wrote: The best book for a beginner? No, don't tell me php.net, I hear that one already, and while it is indeed good, I want something in a dead tree edition I can canny around and smoke as needed. -- end Very Truly yours, - Kirk Bailey, Largo Florida kniht +-+ | BOX | +-+ think -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php I had great success with Wrox PHP Programming and PHP Essentials by Julie C. Meloni The latter is dated, but was clearly written. PHP Essentials (first edition) by Julie C. Meloni was the first book about PHP that I ever bought. I did not find it very useful. The second book was Core PHP First Edition by Leon Atkinson. It was more like an encyclopedia/dictionary with some decent examples. Around 2001 I started participating the general mailing list. I haven't bought another book on PHP since. PHP.net manual, the php-general mailing list and the wonderful members of this list, and Google have provided answers for all the questions I have ever needed to ask since. Jim Lucas -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Book site question
bruce-60 wrote: Hi List... A little while ago... (in a land far away!!).. Someone posted some questions about a site he/she was creating having to do with textbooks... I'm trying to find that person to talk to them about what they were doing... I've searched my past emails but can't find it.. So, maybe I imagined it!! I've got a situation where I'm going to be dealing with books, and it might be useful to talk with whoever was working on the app.. If this email finds you, and you were the person working on the app... Please get back to me!! Thanks -bruce Hi Bruce Did you try searching the archives? http://www.Elemental.co.za http://www.Elemental.co.za http://www.wapit.co.za http://www.wapit.co.za -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Book-site-question-tp23844151p23857413.html Sent from the PHP - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Book site question
Hi List... A little while ago... (in a land far away!!).. Someone posted some questions about a site he/she was creating having to do with textbooks... I'm trying to find that person to talk to them about what they were doing... I've searched my past emails but can't find it.. So, maybe I imagined it!! I've got a situation where I'm going to be dealing with books, and it might be useful to talk with whoever was working on the app.. If this email finds you, and you were the person working on the app... Please get back to me!! Thanks -bruce -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
Robert Cummings a écrit : On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 10:47 +, Richard Heyes wrote: Floppies hold 1.4 megs now? Mine don't and they're even dual-sided. :( What are Floppies? Is it a reference to a particular male problem? If so, then I want to know what dual sided means? Cheers, Rob. and me High Density !!! :) Truely, Zeuf -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
Daniel Brown a écrit : You'd be surprised. The For Dummies series is one of the best-selling franchises in mainstream publishing history. Best-selling are not a proof of quality. -- Mickaël Wolff aka Lupus Michaelis http://lupusmic.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 10:47 +, Richard Heyes wrote: Floppies hold 1.4 megs now? Mine don't and they're even dual-sided. :( What are Floppies? Is it a reference to a particular male problem? If so, then I want to know what dual sided means? Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 17:11, Jay Moore jaymo...@accu-com.com wrote: Ok. Let me back them up to these reel-to-reel tapes quick, just in case. Just be careful that you don't get the Michaelangelo or Friday The 13th viruses especially if you're converting over on a C-64 1541 drive. What? They were cross platform? I recall copping Michaelangelo on Win 3.n from some commercial software floppy. Not nice - it cleaned out the FAT or something equally nasty. A reinstall was called for :-) Cheers -- David Robley I already showed you how to do that, Tom said tautly. Today is Sweetmorn, the 59th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
Lupus Michaelis wrote: Daniel Brown a écrit : You'd be surprised. The For Dummies series is one of the best-selling franchises in mainstream publishing history. Best-selling are not a proof of quality. Viz: Windows Version xx.x Cheers -- David Robley Windows: XT emulator for an AT. Today is Sweetmorn, the 59th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
Floppies hold 1.4 megs now? Mine don't and they're even dual-sided. :( What are Floppies? Is it a reference to a particular male problem? -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for FF, Chrome, Opera and Safari: http://www.rgraph.org (Updated December 5th) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
Sounds like you need Self Esteem for Dummies. Lol. It's not a question of self-esteem, more based on the number of non-starter businesses I've attempted to start. -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for FF, Chrome, Opera and Safari: http://www.rgraph.org (Updated December 5th) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 13:13 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 10:47 +, Richard Heyes wrote: Floppies hold 1.4 megs now? Mine don't and they're even dual-sided. :( What are Floppies? Is it a reference to a particular male problem? If so, then I want to know what dual sided means? Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP Maybe it means the state affects you independent of sexual preference? ;) Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 13:13 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 10:47 +, Richard Heyes wrote: Floppies hold 1.4 megs now? Mine don't and they're even dual-sided. :( What are Floppies? Is it a reference to a particular male problem? If so, then I want to know what dual sided means? Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP Maybe it means the state affects you independent of sexual preference? ;) Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk and if you tape over the little whole in you're floppy you can use it again :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
When you really want to learn a language, I find it useful to have a book that teaches you the language, and then a book for reference. Head First PHP is a GREAT starter book, especially if you're the type whose eyes glaze over when you're presented with walls of text. Its easy to read and very visually appealing. Plus it does a great job of teaching. http://www.amazon.com/Head-First-MySQL-Lynn-Beighley/dp/0596006306 As for reference, php.net is the best book out there. Beyond that, the Zend Certification guide and the o'reilly books you really can't lose. On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 5:33 PM, jeffery harris jhar...@harris4interactive.com wrote: Hi guys/gals. I'm a first time user. Does anyone know of a good php book? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
Ashley Sheridan a écrit : On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 16:33 -0600, jeffery harris wrote: Hi guys/gals. I'm a first time user. Does anyone know of a good php book? I tend to trust O'Reilly books a lot for all things programming, although I learnt largely with 'PHP, Apache, MySQL Web Development' from WROX. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk Yes, I am agree with Ashley. This book must be read. But first, you should read the whole php documentations as Tim said (available on HTML offline). There is everything in it. Good luck ! Zeuf I learned from PHP For Dummies. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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I learned from PHP For Dummies. The title of that book isn't doing itself any favours... :-) -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for FF, Chrome, Opera and Safari: http://www.rgraph.org (Updated December 5th) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:25, Richard Heyes rich...@php.net wrote: I learned from PHP For Dummies. The title of that book isn't doing itself any favours... :-) You'd be surprised. The For Dummies series is one of the best-selling franchises in mainstream publishing history. -- /Daniel P. Brown http://www.parasane.net/ daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net 50% Off Hosting! http://www.pilotpig.net/specials.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Forwarded back to the list, Mario. Please hit Reply-All to keep it on the list. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:44, Kastner Mario off...@unite-it.at wrote: I also read the for dummies book when i started with php. It gives me a simple intro which power is behind php. My first application was a ftp client explained by the book. An essential is to read the online documentation on php.net. -- /Daniel P. Brown http://www.parasane.net/ daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net 50% Off Hosting! http://www.pilotpig.net/specials.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
I learned from PHP For Dummies. The title of that book isn't doing itself any favours... :-) You'd be surprised. The For Dummies series is one of the best-selling franchises in mainstream publishing history. Still, calling your audience dumb is generally regarded as being a bad thing. But then, I am pap at business... :-) -- HTML5 Graphing for FF, Chrome, Opera and Safari: http://www.rgraph.org (Updated December 5th) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
Richard Heyes wrote: I learned from PHP For Dummies. The title of that book isn't doing itself any favours... :-) You'd be surprised. The For Dummies series is one of the best-selling franchises in mainstream publishing history. Still, calling your audience dumb is generally regarded as being a bad thing. But then, I am pap at business... :-) Sounds like you need Self Esteem for Dummies. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 13:41 -0600, Jay Moore wrote: Richard Heyes wrote: I learned from PHP For Dummies. The title of that book isn't doing itself any favours... :-) You'd be surprised. The For Dummies series is one of the best-selling franchises in mainstream publishing history. Still, calling your audience dumb is generally regarded as being a bad thing. But then, I am pap at business... :-) Sounds like you need Self Esteem for Dummies. I would never buy a for Dummies book. It's tantamount to admitting you're a dummy. Instead i buy the Idiot's guide series. Cheers, Rob. Ps. That was a lame attempt at humour... I extract and distill knowledge from the Internet and save myself from having to buy books. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Ps. That was a lame attempt at humour... I extract and distill knowledge from the Internet and save myself from having to buy books. I hear they have that on computers now. I should check it out one of these days. Maybe I'll buy a book. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
Web Database Applications with PHP MySQL, PHP in action, and php.net --Brendon On Dec 14, 2008, at 5:33 PM, jeffery harris wrote: Hi guys/gals. I'm a first time user. Does anyone know of a good php book? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 13:50 -0600, Jay Moore wrote: Ps. That was a lame attempt at humour... I extract and distill knowledge from the Internet and save myself from having to buy books. I hear they have that on computers now. I should check it out one of these days. Maybe I'll buy a book. Yeah, I got a good deal on the Internet compressed to 1.4 megs so I could carry it on a floppy disk. Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
Robert Cummings wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 13:50 -0600, Jay Moore wrote: Ps. That was a lame attempt at humour... I extract and distill knowledge from the Internet and save myself from having to buy books. I hear they have that on computers now. I should check it out one of these days. Maybe I'll buy a book. Yeah, I got a good deal on the Internet compressed to 1.4 megs so I could carry it on a floppy disk. Cheers, Rob. Floppies hold 1.4 megs now? Mine don't and they're even dual-sided. :( -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 17:04, Jay Moore jaymo...@accu-com.com wrote: Floppies hold 1.4 megs now? Mine don't and they're even dual-sided. :( Jay, Throw out your 62K and 5.25 floppies and get with the 1980's, brother. It's all about the 3.5 hard disks now. They're radical! -- /Daniel P. Brown http://www.parasane.net/ daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net 50% Off Hosting! http://www.pilotpig.net/specials.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 17:04, Jay Moore jaymo...@accu-com.com wrote: Floppies hold 1.4 megs now? Mine don't and they're even dual-sided. :( Jay, Throw out your 62K and 5.25 floppies and get with the 1980's, brother. It's all about the 3.5 hard disks now. They're radical! Ok. Let me back them up to these reel-to-reel tapes quick, just in case. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 17:11, Jay Moore jaymo...@accu-com.com wrote: Ok. Let me back them up to these reel-to-reel tapes quick, just in case. Just be careful that you don't get the Michaelangelo or Friday The 13th viruses especially if you're converting over on a C-64 1541 drive. -- /Daniel P. Brown http://www.parasane.net/ daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net 50% Off Hosting! http://www.pilotpig.net/specials.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 16:11 -0600, Jay Moore wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 17:04, Jay Moore jaymo...@accu-com.com wrote: Floppies hold 1.4 megs now? Mine don't and they're even dual-sided. :( Jay, Throw out your 62K and 5.25 floppies and get with the 1980's, brother. It's all about the 3.5 hard disks now. They're radical! Ok. Let me back them up to these reel-to-reel tapes quick, just in case. Hmm, what about punch cards as well, just in case those magnetic tapes get ruined by an EMP... Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 17:07 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 17:04, Jay Moore jaymo...@accu-com.com wrote: Floppies hold 1.4 megs now? Mine don't and they're even dual-sided. :( Jay, Throw out your 62K and 5.25 floppies and get with the 1980's, brother. It's all about the 3.5 hard disks now. They're radical! He's right... standard was actually 1.44 megs... though I swear, every time I loaded one of those buggers I lost 10 to 50k to lost sectors. I think I still have a few 3.5 disks buried someplace cold with my save files for Rogue, Hero's Quest, and a slew of Dragonlance games. My wife calls me a packrat :) They're probably half consumed by mold or something. Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 22:21 +, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 16:11 -0600, Jay Moore wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 17:04, Jay Moore jaymo...@accu-com.com wrote: Floppies hold 1.4 megs now? Mine don't and they're even dual-sided. :( Jay, Throw out your 62K and 5.25 floppies and get with the 1980's, brother. It's all about the 3.5 hard disks now. They're radical! Ok. Let me back them up to these reel-to-reel tapes quick, just in case. Hmm, what about punch cards as well, just in case those magnetic tapes get ruined by an EMP... Cue Tedd and his stones in 3... 2... 1... Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 17:22, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: Cue Tedd and his stones in 3... 2... 1... Rocks[TM]. -- /Daniel P. Brown http://www.parasane.net/ daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net 50% Off Hosting! http://www.pilotpig.net/specials.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 17:22 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 22:21 +, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 16:11 -0600, Jay Moore wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 17:04, Jay Moore jaymo...@accu-com.com wrote: Floppies hold 1.4 megs now? Mine don't and they're even dual-sided. :( Jay, Throw out your 62K and 5.25 floppies and get with the 1980's, brother. It's all about the 3.5 hard disks now. They're radical! Ok. Let me back them up to these reel-to-reel tapes quick, just in case. Hmm, what about punch cards as well, just in case those magnetic tapes get ruined by an EMP... Cue Tedd and his stones in 3... 2... 1... Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP These stones? http://xkcd.com/505/ Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 22:30 +, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 17:22 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 22:21 +, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 16:11 -0600, Jay Moore wrote: Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 17:04, Jay Moore jaymo...@accu-com.com wrote: Floppies hold 1.4 megs now? Mine don't and they're even dual-sided. :( Jay, Throw out your 62K and 5.25 floppies and get with the 1980's, brother. It's all about the 3.5 hard disks now. They're radical! Ok. Let me back them up to these reel-to-reel tapes quick, just in case. Hmm, what about punch cards as well, just in case those magnetic tapes get ruined by an EMP... Cue Tedd and his stones in 3... 2... 1... These stones? http://xkcd.com/505/ Pretty much... but with far more misplacements. Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 17:30, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: These stones? http://xkcd.com/505/ That's fantastic, Ash. I haven't seen that one. I'm CC'ing Tedd directly on that. -- /Daniel P. Brown http://www.parasane.net/ daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net 50% Off Hosting! http://www.pilotpig.net/specials.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 17:44 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 17:30, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: These stones? http://xkcd.com/505/ That's fantastic, Ash. I haven't seen that one. I'm CC'ing Tedd directly on that. -- /Daniel P. Brown http://www.parasane.net/ daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net 50% Off Hosting! http://www.pilotpig.net/specials.php Hehe, it's the only xkcd one I can remember with rocks in! Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
O'reillys Learning PHP 5: http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596005603/index.html Thank you, Micah Gersten onShore Networks Internal Developer http://www.onshore.com jeffery harris wrote: Hi guys/gals. I'm a first time user. Does anyone know of a good php book? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Good PHP book?
[snip] Hi guys/gals. I'm a first time user. Does anyone know of a good php book? [/snip] http://www.amazon.com/PHP-Advanced-Visual-QuickPro-Guide/dp/0321376013 if you are already a programmer but want to get up to speed on PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Good PHP book?
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Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 16:33 -0600, jeffery harris wrote: Hi guys/gals. I'm a first time user. Does anyone know of a good php book? I tend to trust O'Reilly books a lot for all things programming, although I learnt largely with 'PHP, Apache, MySQL Web Development' from WROX. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
The best book is php.net, if you already know a programming language ;-). Otherwise Ashley is probably right. I haven't read any books on php, got all the info off the web, but it's still my main language atm. Tim-Hinnerk Heuer http://www.ihostnz.com On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:33 AM, jeffery harris jhar...@harris4interactive.com wrote: Hi guys/gals. I'm a first time user. Does anyone know of a good php book? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
The best book is php.net, if you already know a programming language ;-). Otherwise Ashley is probably right. I haven't read any books on php, got all the info off the web, but it's still my main language atm. Tim-Hinnerk Heuer http://www.ihostnz.com On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.ukwrote: On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 16:33 -0600, jeffery harris wrote: Hi guys/gals. I'm a first time user. Does anyone know of a good php book? I tend to trust O'Reilly books a lot for all things programming, although I learnt largely with 'PHP, Apache, MySQL Web Development' from WROX. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
Hey, php.net is the best book, but if you want a good book that goes over all the elements of php then pickup the Zend PHP 5 Certification Study Guide: http://www.amazon.com/architects-Zend-Certification-Study-Guide/dp/0973862149/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1229296547sr=8-1 Olafur Waage On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:52 PM, German Geek geek...@gmail.com wrote: The best book is php.net, if you already know a programming language ;-). Otherwise Ashley is probably right. I haven't read any books on php, got all the info off the web, but it's still my main language atm. Tim-Hinnerk Heuer http://www.ihostnz.com On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.ukwrote: On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 16:33 -0600, jeffery harris wrote: Hi guys/gals. I'm a first time user. Does anyone know of a good php book? I tend to trust O'Reilly books a lot for all things programming, although I learnt largely with 'PHP, Apache, MySQL Web Development' from WROX. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP book?
Ashley Sheridan a écrit : On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 16:33 -0600, jeffery harris wrote: Hi guys/gals. I'm a first time user. Does anyone know of a good php book? I tend to trust O'Reilly books a lot for all things programming, although I learnt largely with 'PHP, Apache, MySQL Web Development' from WROX. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk Yes, I am agree with Ashley. This book must be read. But first, you should read the whole php documentations as Tim said (available on HTML offline). There is everything in it. Good luck ! Zeuf -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP Book
What's the good PHP book to learn PHP? -- http://alexus.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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alexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the good PHP book to learn PHP? -- http://alexus.org/ STFA - this was gone over last week -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: alexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the good PHP book to learn PHP? -- http://alexus.org/ STFA - this was gone over last week STFU would be better. ;-P He was the same one who posted the same question on 20 March. -- /Daniel P. Brown Forensic Services, Senior Unix Engineer 1+ (570-) 362-0283 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php book
opinions of good book is almost the same as opinion of good car. I can suggest you to go to barnes and noble or borders or any other bookstore, buy cup of coffee or tea, grab all php books from shelf and read some chapters. you are no going to learn anything, rather to compare styles. some authors use a lot of code, some to much code, some explain to details some throw just links where to find more info, some explain functions with examples, some just in general... you know what I mean. spend 2-3 hours going through the books and then pick one you like (the style) the most. my 2 cents. -ll - Original Message From: alexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:50:23 AM Subject: [PHP] php book what book would you guys suggest for someone who's new and wants to learn php? -- http://alexus.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [PHP] php book
Lamp Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: opinions of good book is almost the same as opinion of good car. !-- Snip -- I myself prefer books along the lines of the Sam's teach yourself * in * hours/minutes series. I picked up the PHP/MySQL/Apache book when I first started learning PHP and still keep it around. I have looked at the Bibles around for PHP and other languages but prefer books that give you the entire chunk of code they are talking about instead of piece-mealing it together, It's the Context that is important to me. But I generally keep a browser pointed to php.net and search the functions on the site while trying to get a particularly irritating bit of code to mesh with the rest. YMMV, Wolf -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] php book
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Re: [PHP] php book
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:50 AM, alexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what book would you guys suggest for someone who's new and wants to learn php? This is just my opinion, of course, but I wouldn't recommend starting with a book. I'd recommend the online manual at http://php.net/manual/ and jumping right in, head-first with writing scripts and figuring out how to fix things when they break. Others may recommend good printed material though. -- /Daniel P. Brown Forensic Services, Senior Unix Engineer 1+ (570-) 362-0283 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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At 11:04 AM -0400 3/19/08, Daniel Brown wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:50 AM, alexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what book would you guys suggest for someone who's new and wants to learn php? This is just my opinion, of course, but I wouldn't recommend starting with a book. I'd recommend the online manual at http://php.net/manual/ and jumping right in, head-first with writing scripts and figuring out how to fix things when they break. Others may recommend good printed material though. I'm sure we have a page somewhere that shows what tutorial links are recommended. But here's a few I've used: http://www.unf.edu/~rita0001/eresources/php_tutorials/index.htm http://www.w3schools.com/php/default.asp http://www.brainbell.com/tutors/php/php_mysql/index.html http://www.tizag.com/phpT/ http://hudzilla.org/phpwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] php book
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:50 AM, alexus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what book would you guys suggest for someone who's new and wants to learn php? This is just my opinion, of course, but I wouldn't recommend starting with a book. I'd recommend the online manual at http://php.net/manual/ and jumping right in, head-first with writing scripts and figuring out how to fix things when they break. Others may recommend good printed material though. -- /Daniel P. Brown I must agree with Dan's approach. I've messed with Frontier, ASP, Java and PHP using this approach and it works for me. I always find that books just miss out on that vital topic I need to work on. Set up a small project (I'd recommend something database related) and look for sample scripts in the manual and elsewhere. Cheers George -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:51 AM, George Pitcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must agree with Dan's approach. I've messed with Frontier, ASP, Java and PHP using this approach and it works for me. I always find that books just miss out on that vital topic I need to work on. I find that you're also going to be restricted to using the author's methodology and preference if you follow a book, rather than developing your own. It would be like telling a fine artist that his painting technique is all wrong, and that there's only one real way of doing the job. All of the paintings in the Louvre would look like they were done by Disney. -- /Daniel P. Brown Forensic Services, Senior Unix Engineer 1+ (570-) 362-0283 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Book Suggestion for ZCE
hey dudes, i want to know that which books are good to read before ZCE exam. I have read php 5 and php 4 study guides and php 4 practice tests. I have also read php|architect's guide to php security and bought a 10 slot sample exam. What else do you suggest? cheers, Danial
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/06/2007 01:25 PM tedd said the following: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers... I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English... No doubt -- I have enough problems with English. My point was, or at least my failed attempt was: 1) humor; 2) pointing out a proof reading error in a request for roof reading skills. I found that ironically humorous. No disrespect was intended, it was just a jab between posters. My apologies if any offense was taken. Cheers, tedd PS: He is a native speaker, it's just not English. :-) No offense was taken on my part. I am aware that the PHPClasses site is not perfect for everybody. So, when I mention something in public related to the site, I am used to get reactions that really do not favour the site. I do not take that personally though that site is basically run by MMI (Me, Myself and I). -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Hello, on 02/06/2007 01:29 PM tedd said the following: Anyway, since you brought that up, I would like to clarify that this is often misunderstood issue. Nobody likes ads, including myself. Ads are obviously necessary to keep the site viable. Otherwise it would have been closed a long time ago. Why are ads necessary? I don't follow. Pay the bills. It may not be evident, but this is my full time day job. This is not an hobby site. Not only the site needs to generate revenue to pay for its operation costs, but also to keep me working full time on it. It is a privilege for me to be able to work in my own project at full time. But obviously I have to keep it as a viable business too. That is why the site would have been closed if it were not the ads. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/07/2007 01:53 AM Richard Lynch said the following: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers... I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English... Thanks for helping to clarify the native speakers. Just a minor correction. My Spanish is not better than my English. I am a native Portuguese speaker. ;-) cultural_momentPortuguese is also a latin based language like Spanish, French, Italian and Romanian, but it is a distinct idiom./cultural_moment Dang I'm felling stoopid. I even have all the facts in my brain to have not made that mistake, had I matched up column M with row P... Sorry. No problem. No apologies are necessary. Nobody knows everything. Even if you knew it, it is ok to get confused once in a while. My memory used to be better when I was younger, or at least when I did not have to work overnight. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
At 8:39 PM -0600 2/5/07, Richard Lynch wrote: On Mon, February 5, 2007 10:09 am, tedd wrote: At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers... I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English... No doubt -- I have enough problems with English. My point was, or at least my failed attempt was: 1) humor; 2) pointing out a proof reading error in a request for roof reading skills. I found that ironically humorous. No disrespect was intended, it was just a jab between posters. My apologies if any offense was taken. Cheers, tedd PS: He is a native speaker, it's just not English. :-) -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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At 4:04 AM -0200 2/6/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Anyway, since you brought that up, I would like to clarify that this is often misunderstood issue. Nobody likes ads, including myself. Ads are obviously necessary to keep the site viable. Otherwise it would have been closed a long time ago. Why are ads necessary? I don't follow. tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
tedd wrote: My point was, or at least my failed attempt was: 1) humor; 2) pointing out a proof reading error in a request for roof reading skills. I found that ironically humorous. HumoUrous roof reading skills you've got there. No disrespect was intended, it was just a jab between posters. Indeed. -Stut -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
On Tue, February 6, 2007 12:04 am, Manuel Lemos wrote: Hello, on 02/06/2007 12:39 AM Richard Lynch said the following: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers... I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English... Thanks for helping to clarify the native speakers. Just a minor correction. My Spanish is not better than my English. I am a native Portuguese speaker. ;-) cultural_momentPortuguese is also a latin based language like Spanish, French, Italian and Romanian, but it is a distinct idiom./cultural_moment Dang I'm felling stoopid. I even have all the facts in my brain to have not made that mistake, had I matched up column M with row P... Sorry. -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 11:09 -0500, tedd wrote: At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? No money you get! Tingly feeling of goodwill spread throughout you it will. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
-Message d'origine- De : tedd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : lundi 5 février 2007 17:10 À : Manuel Lemos; php-general@lists.php.net Objet : Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Quote: good English writing skills :P Me get any money for this? tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
How many book reviews do you suppose Manuel has written in his life time? - Craige On 2/5/07, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Message d'origine- De: tedd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé: lundi 5 février 2007 17:10 À: Manuel Lemos; php-general@lists.php.net Objet: Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Quote: good English writing skills :P Me get any money for this? tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
At 11:14 AM -0500 2/5/07, Robert Cummings wrote: On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 11:09 -0500, tedd wrote: At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? No money you get! Tingly feeling of goodwill spread throughout you it will. Will what? Tingly feeling? Tingly feeling? I don't need no stinking tingly feeling! Paraphrased from Treasure of Sierra Madre -- but somehow, it doesn't sound right. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/05/2007 02:09 PM tedd said the following: At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Good catch! ;-) Those that never commited a typo, throw the first stone! Oh, you just did! ;-) -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/05/2007 02:14 PM Robert Cummings said the following: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? No money you get! Tingly feeling of goodwill spread throughout you it will. Unfortunately, publishing book reviews is not the kind of thing that is worth the time it took me to develop the review system. That was true in the year 2000 and it is still true until today. Anyway, since the system is already done, hopefully it will help all book writers that are brave enough to invest plenty of time writing good PHP books. Often writing books is also not worth the effort. Many authors that try it, only write one book and then give up because the books do not sell enough and they realize they can make more doing something else like consulting. At least maybe the reviews can benefit the authors either helping the books sell more or getting them better known in the community and the consulting business. When that happens, I will be satisfied and feel compensated for all the time I invested in developing the review system. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
On Mon, February 5, 2007 10:09 am, tedd wrote: At 1:05 AM -0200 2/5/07, Manuel Lemos wrote: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers... I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English... [This is aside from the ads jabs some are taking, which is easy to solve -- don't use his site.] -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
On Mon, February 5, 2007 10:56 am, Manuel Lemos wrote: Often writing books is also not worth the effort. Many authors that try it, only write one book and then give up because the books do not sell enough and they realize they can make more doing something else like consulting. If writing the book isn't going to get you paying gigs because you're the expert having written the book, then you're almost for sure going to be getting paid less than minimum wage if you account the hours correctly, as I understand it. I can state for certain that being a Tech Reviewer is even worse pay and little odds of it making you any money, really. Though it is a nifty bullet point and gives you something to talk about in a job interview, where it can maybe pay off. -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/06/2007 12:43 AM Richard Lynch said the following: Often writing books is also not worth the effort. Many authors that try it, only write one book and then give up because the books do not sell enough and they realize they can make more doing something else like consulting. If writing the book isn't going to get you paying gigs because you're the expert having written the book, then you're almost for sure going to be getting paid less than minimum wage if you account the hours correctly, as I understand it. Right. Most author write books because they love what they write about. I know very few people that wrote more than one PHP book. Dedicating time writing books is a big sacrifice. It is not the most efficient way to make a living. Anyway, keep in mind that a US minimum wage is a reasonable amount of money for people in other countries. Writing books is not such a bad money if they get published by an US or European publisher. The whole PHP community that buy their books should be thankful because some writers work very hard to make a living. Some authors of books that I reviewed in the PHPClasses site have written me asking if I could review their new books. If that encourages them to keep writing good books, I am pleased to help them. Unfortunately I do not have the time to review all books that I am asked to review. That is why I am encouraging other people with more time than me to work on it. I can state for certain that being a Tech Reviewer is even worse pay and little odds of it making you any money, really. Though it is a nifty bullet point and gives you something to talk about in a job interview, where it can maybe pay off. Right. Anyway, I am not talking about being Tech Reviewer of books that were not yet published. I am talking about published books, so there is not even a money compensation for people that publish reviews in the PHPClasses site. The only compensation is that reviewers will keep the review copies for themselves. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, on 02/06/2007 12:39 AM Richard Lynch said the following: Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. gets me preference ??? Me get any money for this? Hey, go easy on the non-native speakers... I'm betting your Spanish is worse than his English... Thanks for helping to clarify the native speakers. Just a minor correction. My Spanish is not better than my English. I am a native Portuguese speaker. ;-) cultural_momentPortuguese is also a latin based language like Spanish, French, Italian and Romanian, but it is a distinct idiom./cultural_moment [This is aside from the ads jabs some are taking, which is easy to solve -- don't use his site.] Right. After all everybody is free to go anywhere you want or not, with or without ads. Anyway, since you brought that up, I would like to clarify that this is often misunderstood issue. Nobody likes ads, including myself. Ads are obviously necessary to keep the site viable. Otherwise it would have been closed a long time ago. Anyway, for those very intolerant to ads, at least there is an option in the user options page that the can check to disable pop under and interstitial ads. This was never a secret, but I am not encouraging anybody to use that option either. The site needs the ad revenue generated by all the advertisiment. That option does not disable all ads, but at least disables probably the most annoying. For those that would like to see no ads at all and benefit from full site loading speed, after almost 5 years of promises, in the next months I will finally launch the package of premium services that among several other interesting benefits, it will provide an ad free site navigation, for a small monthly fee. I know that only those that real care about the site will adhere. But at least there will finally be an option for all those that avoid visiting the site because of the ads. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP book reviewers wanted
Hello, Short version: the PHPClasses site is looking for reviewers of books of interest of the PHP users. Authors and publishers want to send me the books but nowadays I do not have the time to review most of them, if any. The candidates that are picked to review the available books will get free review copies. Just send a private message to info at phpclasses.org if you are interested. Demonstrating good English writing skills and having published good book reviews in the past gets me preference. If you have read interesting books, you can submit a review already here (you need to be a site subscriber of course): http://www.phpclasses.org/contribute.html If you have questions or comments, please read the longer version first: http://www.phpclasses.org/blog/post/60-User-submitted-book-reviews-and-package-required-PHP-versions.html -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] book on PHP security
HI, can anyone recommend a really good book on security with PHP? Thanks in advance -- Angelo Zanetti Systems developer *Telephone:* +27 (021) 469 1052 *Mobile:* +27 (0) 72 441 3355 *Fax:*+27 (0) 86 681 5885 * Web:* http://www.zlogic.co.za *E-Mail:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] book on PHP security
essential PHP Security, by Chris Shiflett. Pro PHP Security by Chris Snyder. On Oct 18, 2006, at 9:04 AM, Angelo Zanetti wrote: HI, can anyone recommend a really good book on security with PHP? Thanks in advance -- -- -- Angelo Zanetti Systems developer -- -- *Telephone:* +27 (021) 469 1052 *Mobile:* +27 (0) 72 441 3355 *Fax:*+27 (0) 86 681 5885 * Web:* http://www.zlogic.co.za *E-Mail:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] book on PHP security
Essencial PHP Security, Published by O'Reilly, and written by Chris Shiflett I've never read it, but Book, PHP Security, and Chris Shiflett in the same sentence means you're in for a treat. Any serious discussion on this list security related generally involves a request for input from Chris Shiflett. On 10/18/06, Angelo Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, can anyone recommend a really good book on security with PHP? Thanks in advance
Re: [PHP] book on PHP security
On Wed, October 18, 2006 11:04 am, Angelo Zanetti wrote: can anyone recommend a really good book on security with PHP? http://phpsec.org is also a must-read. -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] [JOB] PHP Book Tech Reviewer
At 3:53 PM -0400 10/10/06, Larry E. Ullman wrote: I'm currently writing the second edition of my PHP Advanced book and need a technical reviewer. It is a paid job and some people think it's interesting/looks good on a resume/etc. Obviously you'll need to be an expert in PHP and pay close attention to detail. My definition of advanced for this book means: - OOP - Doing what you already do but better and faster - Tangential topics (GD, PDFlib, CLI, PEAR, XML, Ajax, MySQL, E-Commerce, other buzzwords). Experience in these areas required. You must be able to work quickly (the entire book must be reviewed over the course of a month, I think). If you are interested or have any questions, please email me off-list. Thanks, Larry Larry: Looking forward to the book. Your other books have been exceptional. Many thanks for your efforts. tedd PS: I wish I was qualified enough to help. -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] [JOB] PHP Book Tech Reviewer
I'm currently writing the second edition of my PHP Advanced book and need a technical reviewer. It is a paid job and some people think it's interesting/looks good on a resume/etc. Obviously you'll need to be an expert in PHP and pay close attention to detail. My definition of advanced for this book means: - OOP - Doing what you already do but better and faster - Tangential topics (GD, PDFlib, CLI, PEAR, XML, Ajax, MySQL, E- Commerce, other buzzwords). Experience in these areas required. You must be able to work quickly (the entire book must be reviewed over the course of a month, I think). If you are interested or have any questions, please email me off-list. Thanks, Larry -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Book/Site for internernal PHP5 Core Developing
hi list! Does someone know a good Book/website for Develop own C-Extensions for PHP5? http://us2.php.net/manual/en/zend.php This site are just basic things, but i wanna do more things. Someone may help me? thx -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Book/Site for internernal PHP5 Core Developing
On 4/26/06, Thomas Munz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi list! Does someone know a good Book/website for Develop own C-Extensions for PHP5? http://us2.php.net/manual/en/zend.php This site are just basic things, but i wanna do more things. Someone may help me? This might help you out: http://pecl.php.net/support.php#resources If not, the internals list would be able to help you a lot better since they are the ones writing the C code in the first place.. http://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php -- Postgresql php tutorials http://www.designmagick.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Book/Site for internernal PHP5 Core Developing
On Wed, April 26, 2006 4:54 am, Thomas Munz wrote: Does someone know a good Book/website for Develop own C-Extensions for PHP5? http://us2.php.net/manual/en/zend.php This site are just basic things, but i wanna do more things. Someone may help me? There's a nice article Zend.com by Sara[h]? Coleman (|Goldman?|Coreman?) Also a BUNCH of them on http://talks.php.net and http://conf.php.net Those all seem pretty basic and similar, however... I think you're at the bleeding edge commonly known as Use the source, Luke :-^ I guess maybe start reading the source code to the smallest/simplest extension you most understand. -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendation
it depends on your programming level and taste of reading I really like Advanced PHP programming but some people he's a lousy teacher, SitePoint books are the most reader friendly books but maybe they aren't the most valuable books in the market. In the last two months the market got load of new PHP books but this time it wasn't General-PHP books but php-specific-topic books, namely design patterns, security, php5 objects etc.. so the best now is to look for php book talking about specific php related topic for me the best are Topic book General Advanced PHP Programming Security: Ilia's security book Guide to php security OOP patterns: PHP design patterns PHP5/general php:php5 power programming Tools/extensions/internals: essential php tools Finally the best is to read some chapters of the book to see if you like how it's written and to check reviewers comments on Amazon. On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 21:50 -0700, Jim Lucas wrote: Paul Goepfert wrote: Hi all, Can anyone tell me a good php book to buy. I already have Web Database Applications with PHP MySQL by O'Reilly. Thanks, Paul Professional PHP5 by WROX -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP Book Recommendation
Hi all, Can anyone tell me a good php book to buy. I already have Web Database Applications with PHP MySQL by O'Reilly. Thanks, Paul -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendation
[snip] Can anyone tell me a good php book to buy. I already have Web Database Applications with PHP MySQL by O'Reilly. [/snip] Core PHP. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendation
Paul Goepfert wrote: Hi all, Can anyone tell me a good php book to buy. I already have Web Database Applications with PHP MySQL by O'Reilly. Thanks, Paul Professional PHP5 by WROX -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Book Recommendation
Man, Anothers good books: - PHP|Architect's Guide to PHP Design Patterns, ISBN: 0973589825 - PHP 5 Objects, Patterns, and Practice, ISBN: 0973589825 On 4/8/06, Jim Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Goepfert wrote: Hi all, Can anyone tell me a good php book to buy. I already have Web Database Applications with PHP MySQL by O'Reilly. Thanks, Paul Professional PHP5 by WROX -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Book Sample Code Help
Hi all. I am trying to run some PHP code I got from the O'Reilly book
Spidering Hacks and it doesn't seem to be working. Please note, the
functions were not inculded in the code, I had to copy it from the book so I
might have made mistake. I thought perhaps an experienced PHP programmer
might be able to pick the error. Does the code work for anyone else?
Thank you. Poppy
The error, and code are listed below:
phpserver$ php -q book-1.php
Parse error: parse error in book-1.php on line 90
phpserver$
#!/usr/bin/php -q
?php
/* include the scraping functions script:
include( scrape_func.php );
I commented this out and included in this file for clarity
*/
function getURL( $pURL ) {
$_data = null;
if( $_http = fopen( $pURL, r ) ) {
while( !feof( $_http ) ) {
$_data .= fgets( $_http, 1024 );
}
fclose( $_http );
}
return( $_data );
}
function cleanString( $pString ) {
$_data = str_replace( array( chr(10), chr(13), chr(9) ), chr(32), $pString
);
while( strpos( $_data, str_repeat( chr(32), 2 ), 0 ) != false )
{
$_data = str_replace( str_repeat( chr(32), 2 ),
chr(32), $_data );
}
return( trim( $_data ) );
}
function getBlock( $pStart, $pStop, $pSource, $pPrefix = true ) {
$_data = null;
$_start = strpos( strtolower( $pSource ), strtolower( $pStart ), 0 );
$_start = ( $pPrefix == false ) ? $_start + strlen( $pStart ) : $_start;
$_stop = strpos( strtolower( $pSource ), strtolower( $pStop ), $_start
);
if( $_start strlen( $pElement ) $_stop $_start ) {
$_data = trim( substr( $pSource, $_start, $_stop - $_start ) );
}
return( $_data );
function getElement( $pElement, $pSource ) {
$_data = null;
$pElement = strtolower( $pElement );
$_start = strpos( strtolower( $pSource ), chr(60) . $pElement, 0 );
$_start = strpos( $pSource, chr(62), $_start ) + 1;
$_stop = strpos( strtolower( $pSource ), / . $pElement . chr(62),
$_start );
if( $_start strlen( $pElement ) $_stop $_start ) {
$_data = trim( substr( $pSource, $_start, $_stop - $_start ) );
}
return( $_data );
}
/* Next, we'll get the raw source code of
the page using our getURL( ) function: */
$_rawData = getURL( http://www.techdeals.net/; );
/* And clean up the raw source for easier parsing: */
$_rawData = cleanString( $_rawData );
/* The next step is a little more complex. Because we've already
looked at the HTML source, we know that the items start and
end with two particular strings. We'll use these strings to
get the main data portion of the page:*/
$_rawData = getBlock( div class=\NewsHeader\,
/div div id=\MenuContainer\, $_rawData );
/* We now have the particular data that we want to parse into
an itemized list. We do that by breaking the code into an
array so we can loop through each item: */
$_rawData = explode( div class=\NewsHeader\, $_rawData );
/* While iterating through each value, we
parse out the individual item portions: */
foreach( $_rawData as $_rawBlock ) {
$_item = array( );
$_rawBlock = trim( $_rawBlock );
if( strlen( $_rawBlock ) 0 ) {
/* The title of the item can be found in h2 ... /h2 tags */
$_item[ title ] = strip_tags( getElement( h2, $_rawBlock ) );
/* The link URL can is found between
http://www.techdeals.net/rd/go.php?id= and*/
$_item[ link ] = getBlock( http://www.techdeals.net/rd/go.php?id=;,
chr(34), $_rawBlock );
/* Posting info is in span ... /span tags */
$_item[ post ] = strip_tags( getElement( span, $_rawBlock ) );
/* The description is found between an /div and a img tag */
$_item[ desc ] = cleanString( strip_tags( getBlock( /div,
img, $_rawBlock ) ) );
/* Some descriptions are slightly different,
so we need to clean them up a bit */
if( strpos( $_item[ desc ], Click here for the techdeal, 0 ) 0 )
{
$_marker = strpos( $_item[ desc ], Click here for the techdeal,
0 );
$_item[ desc ] = trim( substr( $_item[ desc ], 0, $_marker ) );
}
/* Print out the scraped data */
print( implode( chr(10), $_item ) . chr(10) . chr(10) );
/* Save the data as a string (used in the mail example below) */
$_text .= implode( chr(10), $_item ) . chr(10) . chr(10);
}
}
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Re: [PHP] Book Sample Code Help
Poppy, Poppy Alexandra wrote: Parse error: parse error in book-1.php on line 90 Please provide lines 89-91 of book-1.php only please. David -- David Grant http://www.grant.org.uk/ http://pear.php.net/package/File_Ogg0.2.1 http://pear.php.net/package/File_XSPF 0.1.0 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
