Re: [PHP] Books for PHP and MySQL Class
On 15 Nov 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Big Roach) spake thusly: >I think a better strategy would be to introduce them to the basics of >databases in general as opposed to trying to "teach" MySQL to them. A >good primer on DB's would be "Databases for mere mortals" by ... ? some >guy! But the cover is orange/brown and not very thick. Can't find it >here... where did I put it. I get what you are saying here. Since I am leaning towards the single MySQL/PHP book, I might add the Mere Mortals book as well. I want them to have a reference that will serve them later for PHP and MySQL though I am developing a lot of the Database and SQL basics myself, just as I am developing a lot of the intro programming material-- but I do want them to have something to hold in their hands and take with them as well... Thanks! chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Books for PHP and MySQL Class
That would be by Michael Hernandez -Original Message- From: The Big Roach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 4:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Books for PHP and MySQL Class I think a better strategy would be to introduce them to the basics of databases in general as opposed to trying to "teach" MySQL to them. A good primer on DB's would be "Databases for mere mortals" by ... ? some guy! But the cover is orange/brown and not very thick. Can't find it here... where did I put it. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Books for PHP and MySQL Class
I think a better strategy would be to introduce them to the basics of databases in general as opposed to trying to "teach" MySQL to them. A good primer on DB's would be "Databases for mere mortals" by ... ? some guy! But the cover is orange/brown and not very thick. Can't find it here... where did I put it. MySQL only books are a bit technical, and basically cover installation with few good examples. The technical and syntax bits can also get a bit heavy-going in my opinion. Check out O'Reilly's MySQL and MSQL - pink cover. (for panzy MySQL developers! ... oops! I've got a copy.) But as far as PHP goes, check out PHP: Fast & Easy Web Development (blue cover) by Julie Meloni - Prima Tech. It covers MySQL in as far as creating tables and stuff go. It has plenty of good examples in PHP too. Otherwise, the WROX books really are the best. "Clint Tredway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I also have the PHP & MySQL Web Development book and I used it to learn PHP and MySQL. I think it is one of the better books. > > my opinion.. > > Clint > > -- Original Message -- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lott) > Date: 15 Nov 2001 19:41:18 - > > I'll be teaching a web development class in the Spring in which I plan to > focus on PHP and MySQL as primary tools. These will be students who have > experience with HTML And web design, but most will have no experience with > programming at all. > > I need recommendations for book(s) that will serve as decent primers... I > expect that the PHP book will have enough of the fundamentals of programming > to set them on the right path... > > Any suggestions for a MySQL book would be great. If both were in one book, > even better! > > -- > Chris Lott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Books for PHP and MySQL Class
I also have the PHP & MySQL Web Development book and I used it to learn PHP and MySQL. I think it is one of the better books. my opinion.. Clint -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lott) Date: 15 Nov 2001 19:41:18 - I'll be teaching a web development class in the Spring in which I plan to focus on PHP and MySQL as primary tools. These will be students who have experience with HTML And web design, but most will have no experience with programming at all. I need recommendations for book(s) that will serve as decent primers... I expect that the PHP book will have enough of the fundamentals of programming to set them on the right path... Any suggestions for a MySQL book would be great. If both were in one book, even better! -- Chris Lott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Books for PHP and MySQL Class
So far the best books that I have found for PHP and MySQL are: PHP: Developer's Cookbook by Sterlings Hughes (SAMS) MySQL/PHP Database Applications by Jay Greenspan & Brad Bulger (M&T books) I believe another person on our mailing list is putting out a book soon... hopefully maybe he'll rear his head, this would be a good time to promote it :) *nudge nudge* Enjoy! Rick > I'll be teaching a web development class in the Spring in which I plan to > focus on PHP and MySQL as primary tools. These will be students who have > experience with HTML And web design, but most will have no experience with > programming at all. > > I need recommendations for book(s) that will serve as decent primers... I > expect that the PHP book will have enough of the fundamentals of programming > to set them on the right path... > > Any suggestions for a MySQL book would be great. If both were in one book, > even better! > > -- > Chris Lott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Books for PHP and MySQL Class
"PHP and MySQL Web Development" by Welling and Thomson, from SAMS. ISBN 0-672-31784-2. An easy read, but covers everything you'd need. I'm a little biased as a reviewer for your particular needs, since I've been coding for many years, and thus skipped a bunch of the intro PHP language chapters, but I've occasionally check those chapters for a thing or two. Check it out, this book seems to be highly recommended. -Original Message- From: Chris Lott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Books for PHP and MySQL Class I'll be teaching a web development class in the Spring in which I plan to focus on PHP and MySQL as primary tools. These will be students who have experience with HTML And web design, but most will have no experience with programming at all. I need recommendations for book(s) that will serve as decent primers... I expect that the PHP book will have enough of the fundamentals of programming to set them on the right path... Any suggestions for a MySQL book would be great. If both were in one book, even better! -- Chris Lott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] Books for PHP and MySQL Class
I'll be teaching a web development class in the Spring in which I plan to focus on PHP and MySQL as primary tools. These will be students who have experience with HTML And web design, but most will have no experience with programming at all. I need recommendations for book(s) that will serve as decent primers... I expect that the PHP book will have enough of the fundamentals of programming to set them on the right path... Any suggestions for a MySQL book would be great. If both were in one book, even better! -- Chris Lott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]