Re: [PHP] Spam on the list?
2009/3/10 9el le...@phpxperts.net 2009/3/11 דניאל דנון danondan...@gmail.com From time to time, I usually get a message of earn money from home or things like that, and in the bottom, it says, This email has been written and proved to be in compliance with the recently established can-spam act law in US. We are not provoking or forcing any person in any way to participate in our programs. To participate is your own decision and you carry the responsibility of taking further part in this promotion. Anyway, if you don't want to receive more good offers from us, you can simply Unsubscribe by sending us a notification email to out_of_the_l...@yahoo.com with a mail-subject and text Unsubscribe me, and we will get your email out of our list within 10 days. Mailiing list / group does it immediately, but here it takes 10 human days to do so. out_of_the_list name is not identical to the format yahoo has for their groups. So, its a fooling way to get users mail in there and it will add the mailer's address to their permanent spam DB :P This message is STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL and is solely for the individual or organisation to whom it is addressed. It may contain PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its contents is strictly prohibited. If you are not interested in the offered promotions, please just don't answer. If you think you have received this message and its contents in error, please delete it from your computer, or follow the unsubscribing procedure shown above. Can anyone explain, first, Why doesn't the usual PHP-MailingList-Footer appears? H, either they hack through the code to hide it or... what? When you send an email to this list your address becomes public. I'm sure there are many address collectors subscribed to every mailing list on the planet with the sole purpose of building huge lists they can then sell. When they then send you an email directly it won't include the PHP footer because it never goes near the PHP list server. -Stuart -- http://stut.net/
[PHP] Spam on the list?
From time to time, I usually get a message of earn money from home or things like that, and in the bottom, it says, This email has been written and proved to be in compliance with the recently established can-spam act law in US. We are not provoking or forcing any person in any way to participate in our programs. To participate is your own decision and you carry the responsibility of taking further part in this promotion. Anyway, if you don't want to receive more good offers from us, you can simply Unsubscribe by sending us a notification email to out_of_the_l...@yahoo.com with a mail-subject and text Unsubscribe me, and we will get your email out of our list within 10 days. This message is STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL and is solely for the individual or organisation to whom it is addressed. It may contain PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its contents is strictly prohibited. If you are not interested in the offered promotions, please just don't answer. If you think you have received this message and its contents in error, please delete it from your computer, or follow the unsubscribing procedure shown above. Can anyone explain, first, Why doesn't the usual PHP-MailingList-Footer appears? Second, What is the out_of_the_list email thing all about? Will sending unsubscribe request there will really stop this spam? Thanks, Daniel
Re: [PHP] Spam on the list?
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 19:37, דניאל דנון danondan...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone explain, first, Why doesn't the usual PHP-MailingList-Footer appears? It's SPAM. Not much we can do about it in an open forum, unfortunately. Just ignore it. Second, What is the out_of_the_list email thing all about? Will sending unsubscribe request there will really stop this spam? No! Sending an email there will make it worse for you. -- /Daniel P. Brown daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net http://www.parasane.net/ || http://www.pilotpig.net/ 50% Off All Shared Hosting Plans at PilotPig: Use Coupon DOW1 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spam on the list?
--- Use FreeOpenSourceSoftwares, Stop piracy, Let the developers live. Get a Free CD of Ubuntu mailed to your door without any cost. Visit : www.ubuntu.com -- 2009/3/11 דניאל דנון danondan...@gmail.com From time to time, I usually get a message of earn money from home or things like that, and in the bottom, it says, This email has been written and proved to be in compliance with the recently established can-spam act law in US. We are not provoking or forcing any person in any way to participate in our programs. To participate is your own decision and you carry the responsibility of taking further part in this promotion. Anyway, if you don't want to receive more good offers from us, you can simply Unsubscribe by sending us a notification email to out_of_the_l...@yahoo.com with a mail-subject and text Unsubscribe me, and we will get your email out of our list within 10 days. Mailiing list / group does it immediately, but here it takes 10 human days to do so. out_of_the_list name is not identical to the format yahoo has for their groups. So, its a fooling way to get users mail in there and it will add the mailer's address to their permanent spam DB :P This message is STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL and is solely for the individual or organisation to whom it is addressed. It may contain PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its contents is strictly prohibited. If you are not interested in the offered promotions, please just don't answer. If you think you have received this message and its contents in error, please delete it from your computer, or follow the unsubscribing procedure shown above. Can anyone explain, first, Why doesn't the usual PHP-MailingList-Footer appears? H, either they hack through the code to hide it or... what? Second, What is the out_of_the_list email thing all about? Will sending unsubscribe request there will really stop this spam? Thanks, Daniel
Re: [PHP] Spam and this list
AdamT wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:11:47 -0500, bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, this time it took just 11 days to get my first bit of spam from this mailing list. Do you mean the spam was from php-general@lists.php.net ? Or do you mean that you know for sure that your address was harvested from this list? I've not noticed getting any extra spam since joining, personally. Don't forget that: a) Emails you send to this list may be forwarded elsewhere, with your address included b) The email address you use for this list may have been 'brute-forced' c) Some malicious oik may have posted your address somewhere else world-readable d) You might have accidentally posted it someplace else (eg register for access to our forums, we promise not to use it for blah blah blah, please tick a box, etc, etc). the complete posts to this list (and many others) can be found on websites all over the place - no doubt harvesters visit there regularly - then again you may just be seeing a general upturn in the number of spam being: a, sent to you b, getting thru to your inbox (spamfilters need adjusting?) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spam and this list
Jochem Maas wrote: AdamT wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:11:47 -0500, bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, this time it took just 11 days to get my first bit of spam from this mailing list. Folks, I think the OP set up a custom email before posting, and it took only 11 days for it to get harvested and spam to pour in. Frankly, I'm surprised it took that long. Or maybe that's only the spam that got past existing filtering. Perhaps a concerted effort to contact responsible administrators of archive to get them to obfuscate email addresses is a Good Idea. Dunno who's going to actually *DO* it, mind you... -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spam and this list
Richard Lynch wrote: Jochem Maas wrote: AdamT wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:11:47 -0500, bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, this time it took just 11 days to get my first bit of spam from this mailing list. Folks, I think the OP set up a custom email before posting, and it took only 11 days for it to get harvested and spam to pour in. Frankly, I'm surprised it took that long. Or maybe that's only the spam that got past existing filtering. Perhaps a concerted effort to contact responsible administrators of archive to get them to obfuscate email addresses is a Good Idea. Dunno who's going to actually *DO* it, mind you... That would be a lonnng list of admins. This list (as well as most OS lists) seems to archived everywhere these days. -- John C. Nichel ÜberGeek KegWorks.com 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spam and this list
John Nichel wrote: Richard Lynch wrote: Jochem Maas wrote: AdamT wrote: On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:11:47 -0500, bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, this time it took just 11 days to get my first bit of spam from this mailing list. Folks, I think the OP set up a custom email before posting, and it took only 11 days for it to get harvested and spam to pour in. Frankly, I'm surprised it took that long. Or maybe that's only the spam that got past existing filtering. Perhaps a concerted effort to contact responsible administrators of archive to get them to obfuscate email addresses is a Good Idea. Dunno who's going to actually *DO* it, mind you... That would be a lonnng list of admins. This list (as well as most OS lists) seems to archived everywhere these days. I'm willing to bet that half the servers that archive mailing lists are doing ao for nefarious SEO reasons (it doesn't matter what the content is - as long as they can wrap it in paid advertising) - the upshot being they really don't give a about spam harvesters. ...so you get half the admins being cool and obsfucating email addrs on pages containing list archives and the email harvesters using the other halfs archives :-( -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spam and this list
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:11:47 -0500, bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, this time it took just 11 days to get my first bit of spam from this mailing list. Do you mean the spam was from php-general@lists.php.net ? Or do you mean that you know for sure that your address was harvested from this list? I've not noticed getting any extra spam since joining, personally. Don't forget that: a) Emails you send to this list may be forwarded elsewhere, with your address included b) The email address you use for this list may have been 'brute-forced' c) Some malicious oik may have posted your address somewhere else world-readable d) You might have accidentally posted it someplace else (eg register for access to our forums, we promise not to use it for blah blah blah, please tick a box, etc, etc). -- AdamT Justify my text? I'm sorry, but it has no excuse. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Spam and this list
Well, this time it took just 11 days to get my first bit of spam from this mailing list. I am most surprised that a list like this would be so open to Spiders and other creepie crawlies. Other PHP mailing lists are fine, why can't the original and best one be one of them ? Alexis -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spam and this list
Hello bob, Tuesday, March 1, 2005, 4:11:47 PM, you wrote: b I am most surprised that a list like this would be so open to b Spiders and other creepie crawlies. Other PHP mailing lists are b fine, why can't the original and best one be one of them ? I can't see how any list at all that displays the authors email address as the From: address could ever protect you from spam of any kind. Sure you can munge the email addresses on the archives, but you can't stop a bot from subscribing or monitoring the usenet gateway. Best regards, Richard Davey -- http://www.launchcode.co.uk - PHP Development Services I am not young enough to know everything. - Oscar Wilde -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
