Re: [PHP] Re: Debugger
Hello: If there was at least some links on the PHP.net site, that would help people to know they're available. http://www.php.net/manual/en/debugger.php Regards. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Debugger
Jose Leon wrote: It would be nice that php itself incoporates a system to debug php programs, like in PHP 3, in that way a development tool for php would be enabled to debug modifying the php.ini with debug.enabled=true and listening to a port. The system will work on any php distribution because will be part of php itself. Why the debugger was removed from PHP 3? I think it's pretty obvious it was removed during the PHP4 development so that Zend would have a 'value add' to sell later. That's the cynical part of me answering, obviously, and I've never heard an answer one way or another why it was removed, but the timing seems pretty remarkable. Michael Kimsal http://www.logicreate.com 734-480-9961 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Debugger
That's just not the case. The debugger in PHP 3 would not work at all in PHP 4 and would need a complete rewrite. So, being cynical you might say that someone should have written a debugger for PHP 4 and the fact that nobody did was the conspiracy, but it makes no sense to say it was removed for conspiracy reasons. I mean if the PHP 3 debugging code worked with PHP 4, then you could just take the code from PHP 3 and use it. It's not like it is deleted from CVS. -Rasmus On Sun, 12 May 2002, Michael Kimsal wrote: Jose Leon wrote: It would be nice that php itself incoporates a system to debug php programs, like in PHP 3, in that way a development tool for php would be enabled to debug modifying the php.ini with debug.enabled=true and listening to a port. The system will work on any php distribution because will be part of php itself. Why the debugger was removed from PHP 3? I think it's pretty obvious it was removed during the PHP4 development so that Zend would have a 'value add' to sell later. That's the cynical part of me answering, obviously, and I've never heard an answer one way or another why it was removed, but the timing seems pretty remarkable. Michael Kimsal http://www.logicreate.com 734-480-9961 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Debugger
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: That's just not the case. The debugger in PHP 3 would not work at all in PHP 4 and would need a complete rewrite. So, being cynical you might say that someone should have written a debugger for PHP 4 and the fact that nobody did was the conspiracy, but it makes no sense to say it was removed for conspiracy reasons. I mean if the PHP 3 debugging code worked with PHP 4, then you could just take the code from PHP 3 and use it. It's not like it is deleted from CVS. I'll stand corrected on that. I'd not looked at the code closely enough to know if there were major compatibility problems. Are there any movements to get things like the stack trace module and the Russian dbg debugger module into the standard PHP distribution? If there was at least some links on the PHP.net site, that would help people to know they're available. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Debugger
Hello: He said php -l will let you know where your syntax errors are. And what this has to do with my question? I was asking for a debugger, not for an error report. I want a mechanism to debug php programs step by step, watch variables and so on. Regards. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Debugger
Hello: I think the OP has already looked at it, and wanted something better :) Yes, that's right, but I'm not saying dbg isn't good, I just said is too much complicated (AFAIK): -Must have a listener running -Use COM to interface with it -User installation too hard: Change php.ini to load the extension Keep track of the php version and the extension version I really like the Komodo solution, just copy a dll and it changes the php.ini for you. But I still must keep track of the PHP version. It would be nice that php itself incoporates a system to debug php programs, like in PHP 3, in that way a development tool for php would be enabled to debug modifying the php.ini with debug.enabled=true and listening to a port. The system will work on any php distribution because will be part of php itself. Why the debugger was removed from PHP 3? Regards. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Debugger
php -l will let you know where your syntax errors are. What? He said php -l will let you know where your syntax errors are. Helping out where I can, ---John Holmes... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Debugger
On Saturday 11 May 2002 04:07, Austin Marshall wrote: Jose Leon wrote: php -l will let you know where your syntax errors are. What? Regards If you invoke the interpreter from the command line (CGI). You can use the -l flag to enable lint mode... that will check your script for parse errors. So in a way, PHP does have a debug mode. He wants a /real/ debugger. One in which you can step through instructions, set break points, examine state of variables etc. -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.com.hk Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * /* Integrity has no need for rules. */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Debugger
See DBG (http://dd.cron.ru/dbg/) On Sat, 11 May 2002, Jason Wong wrote: On Saturday 11 May 2002 04:07, Austin Marshall wrote: Jose Leon wrote: php -l will let you know where your syntax errors are. What? Regards If you invoke the interpreter from the command line (CGI). You can use the -l flag to enable lint mode... that will check your script for parse errors. So in a way, PHP does have a debug mode. He wants a /real/ debugger. One in which you can step through instructions, set break points, examine state of variables etc. -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.com.hk Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * /* Integrity has no need for rules. */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Debugger
On Saturday 11 May 2002 12:17, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: See DBG (http://dd.cron.ru/dbg/) I think the OP has already looked at it, and wanted something better :) -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.com.hk Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design Hosting * Internet Intranet Applications Development * /* Never commit yourself! Let someone else commit you. */ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
