[phpsoa] Re: about JMS Binding

2007-07-05 Thread cem

On Jul 5, 6:41 pm, "Simon Laws" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you have we could transfer it via the files section of the group but I
> notice that it's set at the moment so that only managers can upload files.
>
> We could do that via email and have one of the maintainers patch the code
> into the branch for all to see. But what does everyone think about how we
> should handle contributions like this. Should we have a separate place where
> people can put contributions (like the file section of the google group)?

We should use the bug tracker, with type=Feature.Change Request. I
can't remember if the tracker will let you attach a patch file, or if
you have to make the patch available somewhere else and point to it
from the bug report. If the latter, we can always open up the files
area, (and hope we don't let any spammers in).


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[phpsoa] Re: about JMS Binding

2007-07-05 Thread Simon Laws
On 7/5/07, Jack Zai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am developing a JMS binding and would like to discuss some of the
> work i've done. basically, a message service listens to a queue at
> some JMS message provider e.g. ActiveMQ or IBM Websphere MQ. And a
> client or a reference can invoke the service's method by sending
> message to its destination queue, and receive the response from a call
> back queue, which can be provided at runtime by the client.
>
> I found there is an existing specification for SCA JMS Binding [1]
> from OSOA. This spec describes stuff like when receiving a request
> which method should be invoked, and how the data/parameters are packed
> into a JMS Message. I've already implemented section 1.5 and section
> 1.7.2 of that spec, and have some thoughts about the conversations
> (section 1.7.3), but not yet implemented.
>
> In addition, my solution requires another pecl extension SAM [2] for
> connecting to the message providers. The reason of choosing SAM is
> because that SAM provides one API for different messaging
> infrastructures, and also provides a generic extension mechanism which
> makes it easy to add new support. Currently SAM only supports XMS[3]
> for IBM products and MQTT, but I've also developed a new Stomp support
> for Active MQ, which will be included to the next release of SAM very
> shortly.
>
> If anyone is interested in the JMS binding or have any questions,
> please join the discussion here.
>
> Jack Zai
>
> [1] SCA JMS Binding V1.00 (PDF)
>
> http://www.osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_AssemblyModel_V100.pdf?version=1
> [2] SAM - Simple Asynchronous Messaging for PHP (http://pecl.php.net/
> package/sam)
> [3] XMS -
> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/library/techarticles/0509_phillips/0509_phillips.html
>
>
> >
> Hey Jack, that sounds really cool. A couple of questions.

- How does a service listen to message queues. I.e. is there really a
listener or do you rely on user events before going and reading input
queues?

- Does the service take notice of the "reply to" information that can appear
in messages?

- How does a reference generate "reply to" information

- What does it mean to have a reference defined with a ms binding. Does it
mean calls through that reference will be synchronous, asynchronous or do I
get to choose.

- Is there a way I can programmatically receive messages from within a
service implementation.

It would be really good to get a look at the code. I'm not sure what the
process is for getting it from you. Have you signed a project Contributor
License Agreement (CLA) to indicate that you are free to give us the code
and are happy for us to use it?

If you have we could transfer it via the files section of the group but I
notice that it's set at the moment so that only managers can upload files.

We could do that via email and have one of the maintainers patch the code
into the branch for all to see. But what does everyone think about how we
should handle contributions like this. Should we have a separate place where
people can put contributions (like the file section of the google group)?

Regards

Simon

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[phpsoa] about JMS Binding

2007-07-05 Thread Jack Zai

Hi,

I am developing a JMS binding and would like to discuss some of the
work i've done. basically, a message service listens to a queue at
some JMS message provider e.g. ActiveMQ or IBM Websphere MQ. And a
client or a reference can invoke the service's method by sending
message to its destination queue, and receive the response from a call
back queue, which can be provided at runtime by the client.

I found there is an existing specification for SCA JMS Binding [1]
from OSOA. This spec describes stuff like when receiving a request
which method should be invoked, and how the data/parameters are packed
into a JMS Message. I've already implemented section 1.5 and section
1.7.2 of that spec, and have some thoughts about the conversations
(section 1.7.3), but not yet implemented.

In addition, my solution requires another pecl extension SAM [2] for
connecting to the message providers. The reason of choosing SAM is
because that SAM provides one API for different messaging
infrastructures, and also provides a generic extension mechanism which
makes it easy to add new support. Currently SAM only supports XMS[3]
for IBM products and MQTT, but I've also developed a new Stomp support
for Active MQ, which will be included to the next release of SAM very
shortly.

If anyone is interested in the JMS binding or have any questions,
please join the discussion here.

Jack Zai

[1] SCA JMS Binding V1.00 (PDF)
http://www.osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_AssemblyModel_V100.pdf?version=1
[2] SAM - Simple Asynchronous Messaging for PHP (http://pecl.php.net/
package/sam)
[3] XMS - 
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/library/techarticles/0509_phillips/0509_phillips.html


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[phpsoa] Re: New article about SCA and SDO

2007-07-05 Thread simonslaws



On 5 Jul, 15:26, Caroline Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > Good spot Caroline, have added it to the "places that talk about us"
> > list.
>
> .. however I had already added it to the "Papers" list! I chose that
> because it was more like a tutorial and less like a discussion. YMMV.

So you did. Didn't spot that.

S


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[phpsoa] Re: New article about SCA and SDO

2007-07-05 Thread Caroline Maynard

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Good spot Caroline, have added it to the "places that talk about us"
> list.

.. however I had already added it to the "Papers" list! I chose that 
because it was more like a tutorial and less like a discussion. YMMV.


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[phpsoa] Re: Upgrading EIDER to latest Tusany code

2007-07-05 Thread Caroline Maynard

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> On 5 Jul, 14:25, Matthew Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What happened to Simon's userid?
>>
>>> simonslaws-gM/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Not sure! It's decided I don't need an alias anymore.

I think it happens because you don't have a nickname. This is a bit 
confusing, because there are (at least) two distinct places where you 
can set your name - one is the Groups profile 
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?myprofile where you have 
name=Simon location=Laws (?), the other is per-group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/phpsoa/subscribe. It's the latter that 
you don't have set, I think.


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[phpsoa] Re: Upgrading EIDER to latest Tusany code

2007-07-05 Thread simonslaws



On 5 Jul, 14:23, Matthew Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> For info, I took a look at Tuscany JIRA 1112 again last week on Friday
> and am convinced that the recent namespace changes are not right; and
> a backward step on what was in there before which was not right
> either. I have updated the JIRA - I'll wait another day and then
> enquire what the outlook for a fix is. In the meantime, Simon, I'll be
> glad if you don't check in the recent changes :-)
>
> Matthew
>
> On Jun 28, 10:46 am, Matthew Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > I will look at the JIRA and answer it for sure in the next two days,
> > and also reply back here with what I find.

No problem


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[phpsoa] Re: Upgrading EIDER to latest Tusany code

2007-07-05 Thread simonslaws



On 5 Jul, 14:25, Matthew Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> What happened to Simon's userid?
>
> > simonslaws-gM/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Not sure! It's decided I don't need an alias anymore.


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[phpsoa] Re: New article about SCA and SDO

2007-07-05 Thread simonslaws



On 5 Jul, 14:15, Matthew Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Thanks for spotting that. What a nice article it is! I am very
> impressed - it seems no matter how neglectful any of us have been
> about the documentation (for example I only just got round to changing
> @binding.ws for @binding.soap in the docs), Tyler Anderson has
> deciphered what we have been up to and made it all look slick and
> smooth.
>
> Matthew

Good spot Caroline, have added it to the "places that talk about us"
list.

Simon


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[phpsoa] Re: Upgrading EIDER to latest Tusany code

2007-07-05 Thread Matthew Peters

What happened to Simon's userid?

> simonslaws-gM/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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[phpsoa] Re: Upgrading EIDER to latest Tusany code

2007-07-05 Thread Matthew Peters

For info, I took a look at Tuscany JIRA 1112 again last week on Friday
and am convinced that the recent namespace changes are not right; and
a backward step on what was in there before which was not right
either. I have updated the JIRA - I'll wait another day and then
enquire what the outlook for a fix is. In the meantime, Simon, I'll be
glad if you don't check in the recent changes :-)

Matthew

On Jun 28, 10:46 am, Matthew Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I will look at the JIRA and answer it for sure in the next two days,
> and also reply back here with what I find.


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[phpsoa] Re: New article about SCA and SDO

2007-07-05 Thread Matthew Peters

Thanks for spotting that. What a nice article it is! I am very
impressed - it seems no matter how neglectful any of us have been
about the documentation (for example I only just got round to changing
@binding.ws for @binding.soap in the docs), Tyler Anderson has
deciphered what we have been up to and made it all look slick and
smooth.

Matthew


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[phpsoa] New article about SCA and SDO

2007-07-05 Thread Caroline Maynard

Perhaps it was just me looking the wrong way (my mind was on other 
things that week) - did everyone else notice the appearance on 
developerWorks of a new article about SCA and SDO for PHP? Not sure if 
the author is a subscriber to this list, but he's created a useful short 
introduction to using SCA to create and consume a SOAP service, with a 
downloadable weather service example. Take a look: 
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/web/library/ws-soa-scasdo/


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