Re: Strange PicoLisp site

2014-10-27 Thread Jakob Eriksson


On October 27, 2014 at 10:20 AM Alexander Burger  wrote:
> Hi Jakob,
>
> our mails just crossed ;-)
>
> > "someone" registered that domain for PicoLisp, then did not renew the fee.
>
> Yes, javuchi messed it up somehow, but it may not be only his fault. It
> seems to be possible that domains are stolen during transfers even if
> all fees were properly handled.
>
> We had this once with with "software-lab.org", which we hosted at Strato
> (strato.de), and which was stolen during a transfer many years ago.

I did not mean to put blame on anyone, except perhaps myself. I had forgot
how it played out in detail.

Anyway, there are ways to transfer the domain ownership without risking
losing it. One of the best is to use the same DNS registrar for both
the old and new owners.

https://support.loopia.com/wiki/How_do_I_change_the_owner_of_my_domain_names%3F


--jakob
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Re: Strange PicoLisp site

2014-10-27 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Alexander Burger  writes:

Hi Alex,

> I think the above site is evil.

so the message to take home is that evilness might come along with a
pretty attractive appearance ...

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Re: Strange PicoLisp site

2014-10-27 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Jakob,

our mails just crossed ;-)

> "someone" registered that domain for PicoLisp, then did not renew the fee.

Yes, javuchi messed it up somehow, but it may not be only his fault. It
seems to be possible that domains are stolen during transfers even if
all fees were properly handled.

We had this once with with "software-lab.org", which we hosted at Strato
(strato.de), and which was stolen during a transfer many years ago.

:( Alex
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Re: Strange PicoLisp site

2014-10-27 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Jakob Eriksson  writes:

> "someone" registered that domain for PicoLisp, then did not renew the fee.
>
> When it was expired, the domain was snatched (like most expired
> domains are)
> by one of these companies which do nothing else but buy expired domains and
> resell them.
>
> The boilerplate text is just random junk to keep the page in google's
> index,
> to keep the value of the domain up a tiny little bit.

I see ... but I must say that the 'random junk' looks pretty good, with
a different title like 'PoetsClub' or so it would make a nice webpage.

> On October 27, 2014 at 9:49 AM Thorsten Jolitz
>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi List,
>>
>> have you seen this website:
>>
>> ,
>> | http://www.picolisp.org/
>> `
>>
>> Its a nice looking website, but I cannot see no connection to PicoLisp
>> whatsover. Or does 'picolisp' have other no technical meanings to native
>> English speakers?
>>
>> Even the camel case they use is the same as in PicoLisp, maybe Alex
>> should sue them for copyrights violations ... ;-)
>>
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>> cheers,
>> Thorsten
>>
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Re: Strange PicoLisp site

2014-10-27 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Thorsten,

> have you seen this website:
> 
> ,
> | http://www.picolisp.org/
> ` 
> 
> Its a nice looking website, but I cannot see no connection to PicoLisp

Yes, I was wondering too. I've seen that quite some time ago.

A few years back, the domain picolisp.org was stolen at the very moment
Javier (javuchi) tried to transfer it to me (before that, it was owned
by Jakob Eriksson).


> whatsover. Or does 'picolisp' have other no technical meanings to native
> English speakers?

I think the above site is evil. They probably use tons of such stolen
domains, and automatically generated Titles like "PicoLisp", to drag
attention to them. As I see it, they offer dubious (or illegal?) writing
services.


> Even the camel case they use is the same as in PicoLisp, maybe Alex
> should sue them for copyrights violations ... ;-)

I don't see a chance ;-)
♪♫ Alex
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Re: Strange PicoLisp site

2014-10-27 Thread Jakob Eriksson
"someone" registered that domain for PicoLisp, then did not renew the fee.

When it was expired, the domain was snatched (like most expired domains are)
by one of these companies which do nothing else but buy expired domains and
resell them.

The boilerplate text is just random junk to keep the page in google's index,
to keep the value of the domain up a tiny little bit.

--jakob


On October 27, 2014 at 9:49 AM Thorsten Jolitz  wrote:
>
> Hi List,
>
> have you seen this website:
>
> ,
> | http://www.picolisp.org/
> `
>
> Its a nice looking website, but I cannot see no connection to PicoLisp
> whatsover. Or does 'picolisp' have other no technical meanings to native
> English speakers?
>
> Even the camel case they use is the same as in PicoLisp, maybe Alex
> should sue them for copyrights violations ... ;-)
>
> --
> cheers,
> Thorsten
>
>
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Strange PicoLisp site

2014-10-27 Thread Thorsten Jolitz

Hi List, 

have you seen this website:

,
| http://www.picolisp.org/
` 

Its a nice looking website, but I cannot see no connection to PicoLisp
whatsover. Or does 'picolisp' have other no technical meanings to native
English speakers?

Even the camel case they use is the same as in PicoLisp, maybe Alex
should sue them for copyrights violations ... ;-)

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Thorsten


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