Re: kdeconnect naming
I've just brought back kdeconnect-kde into Kubuntu with only the files for kioslave and file action in the .deb, this adds back file browsing in dolphin which is still kde4. Jonathan On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 10:53:09AM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: On Thursday 05 March 2015 22:05:59 Albert Vaca wrote: Maybe in Debian kdeconnect could be a virtual package, and then have kdeconnect-plasma and kdeconnect-kde that would provide it? I would love to find a nice way to have coexisting packages for KDE4 and Plasma5, not only for KDE Connect but for every other KDE application in the same situation. It might be worth *if* we keep KDE4 stuff for Strech. But we are trying the opposite, so I would say let's just wait 6 to 8 months after the freeze ends and see if we really need it. -- The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance. http://www.devtopics.com/best-programming-jokes/ Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: kdeconnect naming
On Thursday 05 March 2015 22:05:59 Albert Vaca wrote: Maybe in Debian kdeconnect could be a virtual package, and then have kdeconnect-plasma and kdeconnect-kde that would provide it? I would love to find a nice way to have coexisting packages for KDE4 and Plasma5, not only for KDE Connect but for every other KDE application in the same situation. It might be worth *if* we keep KDE4 stuff for Strech. But we are trying the opposite, so I would say let's just wait 6 to 8 months after the freeze ends and see if we really need it. -- The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance. http://www.devtopics.com/best-programming-jokes/ Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: kdeconnect naming
Hi, On Tuesday 03 March Aleix Pol wrote: I know Albert is, better send an e-mail to the official mailing list [1] for fresher information. Maybe you missunderstood me... but thanks, already suscribed some time ago. 2015-03-04 1:47 GMT+01:00 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez perezme...@gmail.com: On Tuesday 03 March 2015 15:35:40 David Suarez wrote: I was thinking on the final user, when he will search for kdeconnect on his package manager and gets listed: kdeconnect kdeconnect-plasma Could be confusing at first sight. Agreed, but if we manage to get plasma in shape in some months/a year we might consider dropping the KDE 4 version. Yep yep. Maybe this year I could help a bit more inside KDE team ;) Cheers ! David -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: kdeconnect naming
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:35 PM, David Suarez david.sephi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, El 03/03/2015 14:23, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez perezme...@gmail.com escribió: On Tuesday 03 March 2015 00:40:18 Aleix Pol wrote: [snip] I don't think kdeconnect-plasma is a bad idea. I don't think that kdeconnect-plasma is a bad name, it goes with the new kde release. I was thinking on the final user, when he will search for kdeconnect on his package manager and gets listed: kdeconnect kdeconnect-plasma Could be confusing at first sight. I agree with this. But Debian's real maintainer is David, so he is the one who has to ACK the name. For me it's not a problem naming it kdeconnect-plasma. Better this way, so upstream name is not changed. And, if like Aleix suggest, we will see more kdeconnect-* things, better to stay with it. I can see other kdeconnect-* happening some day. Are Albert and you planning something soon ? Cheers, David I know Albert is, better send an e-mail to the official mailing list [1] for fresher information. Aleix [1] kdeconn...@kde.org -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: kdeconnect naming
On Tuesday 03 March 2015 00:40:18 Aleix Pol wrote: [snip] I don't think kdeconnect-plasma is a bad idea. I can see other kdeconnect-* happening some day. I agree with this. But Debian's real maintainer is David, so he is the one who has to ACK the name. -- 3: Que ocurre en el escritorio de Windows cuando se abre una ventana * Se cierra una puerta Damian Nadales http://mx.grulic.org.ar/lurker/message/20080307.141449.a70fb2fc.es.html Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: kdeconnect naming
On Tuesday 03 March 2015 15:35:40 David Suarez wrote: Hi, El 03/03/2015 14:23, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez perezmeyer perezme...@gmail.com@ perezme...@gmail.comgmail.com perezme...@gmail.com escribió: On Tuesday 03 March 2015 00:40:18 Aleix Pol wrote: [snip] I don't think kdeconnect-plasma is a bad idea. I don't think that kdeconnect-plasma is a bad name, it goes with the new kde release. I was thinking on the final user, when he will search for kdeconnect on his package manager and gets listed: kdeconnect kdeconnect-plasma Could be confusing at first sight. Agreed, but if we manage to get plasma in shape in some months/a year we might consider dropping the KDE 4 version. -- $ make war make: *** No rule to make target `war'. Stop. Try `love' instead David Gravereaux Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: kdeconnect naming
Hi, El 03/03/2015 14:23, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez perezmeyer perezme...@gmail.com@ perezme...@gmail.comgmail.com perezme...@gmail.com escribió: On Tuesday 03 March 2015 00:40:18 Aleix Pol wrote: [snip] I don't think kdeconnect-plasma is a bad idea. I don't think that kdeconnect-plasma is a bad name, it goes with the new kde release. I was thinking on the final user, when he will search for kdeconnect on his package manager and gets listed: kdeconnect kdeconnect-plasma Could be confusing at first sight. I agree with this. But Debian's real maintainer is David, so he is the one who has to ACK the name. For me it's not a problem naming it kdeconnect-plasma. Better this way, so upstream name is not changed. And, if like Aleix suggest, we will see more kdeconnect-* things, better to stay with it. I can see other kdeconnect-* happening some day. Are Albert and you planning something soon ? Cheers, David -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: kdeconnect naming
I don't see a reason to diverge from Debian here. Scott K On Monday, March 02, 2015 08:24:26 PM Jonathan Riddell wrote: I'm packaging the Plasma 5 version of kdeconnect, I'd like to ask for a FFe and any testers very welcome https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect/+bug/1427349 ppa:jr/ppa install kdeconnect-plasma5 Upstream releases the kdelibs4 version as kdeconnect-kde and plans to release the plasma 5 version as kdeconnect-plasma5. The naming is inelegant and debian have changed the source and binary to just kdeconnect. What should I name the plasma 5 version? It does overlap and replace the kdelibs4 version in various ways but with be released with a different tar upstream. Jonathan -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: kdeconnect naming
What should I name the plasma 5 version? It does overlap and replace the kdelibs4 version in various ways but with be released with a different tar upstream. How about kdeconnect5, renaming the kde4 version to kdeconnect4 (adding a transitional package for kdeconnect) ? Ug it's already different from the upstream tar name, I wouldn't want to make another change compared to upstream when there's no reason to. Jonathan -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: kdeconnect naming
Debian haven't made a decision as it hasn't been packaged yet. The question for now is should we diverge from probable upstream naming. Jonathan On 2 March 2015 at 22:45, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: I don't see a reason to diverge from Debian here. Scott K On Monday, March 02, 2015 08:24:26 PM Jonathan Riddell wrote: I'm packaging the Plasma 5 version of kdeconnect, I'd like to ask for a FFe and any testers very welcome https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect/+bug/1427349 ppa:jr/ppa install kdeconnect-plasma5 Upstream releases the kdelibs4 version as kdeconnect-kde and plans to release the plasma 5 version as kdeconnect-plasma5. The naming is inelegant and debian have changed the source and binary to just kdeconnect. What should I name the plasma 5 version? It does overlap and replace the kdelibs4 version in various ways but with be released with a different tar upstream. Jonathan -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: kdeconnect naming
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Jonathan Riddell j...@jriddell.org wrote: I'm packaging the Plasma 5 version of kdeconnect, I'd like to ask for a FFe and any testers very welcome https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect/+bug/1427349 ppa:jr/ppa install kdeconnect-plasma5 Upstream releases the kdelibs4 version as kdeconnect-kde and plans to release the plasma 5 version as kdeconnect-plasma5. The naming is inelegant and debian have changed the source and binary to just kdeconnect. What should I name the plasma 5 version? It does overlap and replace the kdelibs4 version in various ways but with be released with a different tar upstream. Jonathan -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel I don't think kdeconnect-plasma is a bad idea. I can see other kdeconnect-* happening some day. Aleix -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: kdeconnect naming
OK. I misread the email then. I'd just call it what upstream is going to call it then if Debian is willing to do the same. I agree it's inelegant, but users will rarely see it since this will get installed primarily via metapackage (I assume). Scott K On Monday, March 02, 2015 11:32:00 PM Jonathan Riddell wrote: Debian haven't made a decision as it hasn't been packaged yet. The question for now is should we diverge from probable upstream naming. Jonathan On 2 March 2015 at 22:45, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: I don't see a reason to diverge from Debian here. Scott K On Monday, March 02, 2015 08:24:26 PM Jonathan Riddell wrote: I'm packaging the Plasma 5 version of kdeconnect, I'd like to ask for a FFe and any testers very welcome https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect/+bug/1427349 ppa:jr/ppa install kdeconnect-plasma5 Upstream releases the kdelibs4 version as kdeconnect-kde and plans to release the plasma 5 version as kdeconnect-plasma5. The naming is inelegant and debian have changed the source and binary to just kdeconnect. What should I name the plasma 5 version? It does overlap and replace the kdelibs4 version in various ways but with be released with a different tar upstream. Jonathan -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
Re: kdeconnect naming
Hi! El 02/03/2015 20:24, Jonathan Riddell j...@jriddell.org escribió: I'm packaging the Plasma 5 version of kdeconnect, I'd like to ask for a FFe and any testers very welcome https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect/+bug/1427349 ppa:jr/ppa install kdeconnect-plasma5 Upstream releases the kdelibs4 version as kdeconnect-kde and plans to release the plasma 5 version as kdeconnect-plasma5. The naming is inelegant and debian have changed the source and binary to just kdeconnect. I think that the naming, *-kde is for differentation beetween pc - android software. In Debian we just changed it, to only kdeconnect, to avoid redundance. What should I name the plasma 5 version? It does overlap and replace the kdelibs4 version in various ways but with be released with a different tar upstream. How about kdeconnect5, renaming the kde4 version to kdeconnect4 (adding a transitional package for kdeconnect) ? Cheers, David -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
