Re: pd-zexy: broken Build-Depends

2013-01-23 Thread IOhannes zmölnig

On 01/17/2013 10:28 AM, Thorsten Glaser wrote:

Hi,

pd-zexy has alternative Build-Depends, however, they don’t work:

[…]
  pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy : Depends: puredata-core which is a virtual 
package. or
   puredata (  0.43) but it is not 
going to be installed.


hmm, any idea why puredata-core is named a virtual package?
it is as real as a package can get.


The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

   Install the following packages:
[…]
8)  puredata [0.41.4-1 (unstable)]
[…]
checking pd/m_pd.h usability... no
checking pd/m_pd.h presence... no
checking for pd/m_pd.h... no
configure: error: m_pd.h is desperately needed!
 install pd and/or use
 --with-pd=/path/to/pd/
make: *** [debian/stamp-autotools] Error 1
dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules build-arch gave error exit status 2


ouch; you discovered an upstream bug.
i'll forward it, and could provide a patch that fixes the problem.


I think dropping the alternative on puredata is way to go.
I’ll just build its newer version, but due to the existence
of the alternative B-D, wanna-build considers pd-zexy to be
eligible for building.


ah btw, the B-D in question is really
 puredata-dev | puredata ( 0.43)
rather than
 puredata-core | puredata ( 0.43)
the latter is merely for runningthe test-suite.

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Re: pd-zexy: broken Build-Depends

2013-01-23 Thread IOhannes zmölnig

On 01/17/2013 07:33 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote:

Felipe Sateler dixit:


(CCing you because I don't know if you are suscribed)


I’m not, thanks.


Well, your puredata is from before stable... With the current build
depends pd-zexy can be built in stable.


as a matter of fact, i'm not entirely sure about this.


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Re: pd-zexy: broken Build-Depends

2013-01-23 Thread IOhannes zmölnig

On 01/17/2013 01:43 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote:

At some point (the changelog doesn't say) before squeeze the header
was moved from /u/include/m_pd.h to /u/i/pd/m_pd.h, which is where


for the record: the old header location is still available (symlinked)


modern packages expect it, which is why your build is failing.


configure is supposed to check both the new and the old header, but 
unfortunately stops checking after the check for the new header location 
failed (due to the upstream bug i mentioned).


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Re: updated packages: pd-iemnet pd-osc

2012-06-29 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 06/28/2012 11:28 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote:
 
 I am uploading.

thanks

 
 Commit 192da32 serves 2 purposes: convert to final dep-5 format and
 merge explicit entries into a single generic one. Next time, please
 split the commits accordingly.

i agree, sorry.


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RC Bug #679318 (was Re: Bug#679318: flumotion: twisted override bug - one more)

2012-06-29 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
tag 679318 +pending
thanks

On 06/27/2012 10:32 PM, John Bazik wrote:
 Package: flumotion
 Version: 0.10.0-2
 Severity: grave
 Tags: upstream patch
 Justification: renders package unusable
 
 This is the same problem I reported in #672404, but affecting a different
 part of the code (there are two places that need to be fixed).  To recap,
 flumotion overrides an internal method in twisted, which has changed.
 

thanks for the patch again.

i updated the flumotion package accordingly and pushed the changes to git.
i also updated debian/changelog accordingly (and set the target to
release) in order to speed things up. (hopefully jonas will forgive me
for this)

if anyone could upload this fix for an RC-bug, that would be great.

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Re: updated packages: pd-iemnet pd-osc

2012-06-28 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 06/25/2012 10:09 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
 On 2012-06-25 02:58, Felipe Sateler wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 2:25 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig
 zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
 pd-iemnet: - pushed standards - fixed build-depends and depends -
 updated debian/changelog to the final DEP-5 format - enabled
 hardening builds
 
 I don't quite like this patch. It looks like it should be just a 
 one-line patch but some editor preference managed to turn it into
 a 80-line thing. Can you please fix this?
 
 
 oops, sorry. it indeed should be a two-line patch.
 fixed and pushed.
 

ping. before it's too late.

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Re: please upload: pd-zexy 2.2.5

2011-11-11 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 11/11/2011 03:02 AM, Felipe Sateler wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 13:31, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 i hopefully fixed the remaining issues with pd-zexy (namely: depending
 on puredata-core rather than puredata; not shipping license files that
 are in debian anyhow)

 the new package fixes an RC bug, so i think it rather important to have
 it included asap.

 also, the last package was uploaded by felipe on 2010-11-09, so i
 thought it a nice coincidence to update it just after a year :-)
 
 Off-by-one... 

true, but i thought i'll take the chance :-)

 but I couldn't upload :(. THe build dependency should be
 puredata-dev | puredata ( 0.43), since puredata = 0.43 is not
 enough to build.

hmm, puredata _should_ be enough even with 0.43, as it depends on
puredata-dev.

there was a bug in the puredata (=0.43  0.43.0-4) package, where
puredata would not depend on puredata-dev.
this has been fixed with 0.43.0-4, which afaik is the only 0.43 package
to be found in debian (=wheezy) and ubuntu (=oneric).

am i missing something?

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gmerlin-avdecoder ready (2nd try)

2011-01-16 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
i think i fixed the remaining issues with gmerlin-avdecoder.

package appears to be lintian clean.

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Re: libgmerlin0 - libgmerlin1

2011-01-16 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 01/14/2011 07:16 PM, IOhannes zmölnig wrote:
 it seems like gmerlin-1.0.0 provides a libgmerlin that is binary
 incompatible with the gmerlin-0.4.3 release.
 
 namely, some symbols have been dropped.

hmm, after closer inspection ofthe output of dpkg-gensymbols, it seems
like this was a false alarm.

the libgmerlin0.symbols files contains a number of MISSING stanzas,
which seem to have been merely updated:

-#MISSING: 0.4.3# (optional)pixbuf_destroy_notify@Base 0.4.1
+#MISSING: 1.0.0~dfsg-1# (optional)pixbuf_destroy_notify@Base 0.4.1

it seems like all MISSING stanzas for 1.0.0 have also been there for 0.4.3

the rest of the changes are only additions.

so i guess we are still save.


but then: how come that there are MISSING stanzas at all?
does this indicate, that at some point in the past, the library API did
change, and it was ignored?



 
 as i understand it, this means that the SONAME has to change.
 unfortunately i don't have any real clue what this means in practice.
 
 i guess, a start would be to simply rename the binary package to libgmerlin1


ah, i found the libpkg-guide.
and that the soname should change in the build-process (automake)


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libgmerlin0 - libgmerlin1

2011-01-16 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
it seems like gmerlin-1.0.0 provides a libgmerlin that is binary
incompatible with the gmerlin-0.4.3 release.

namely, some symbols have been dropped.

as i understand it, this means that the SONAME has to change.
unfortunately i don't have any real clue what this means in practice.

i guess, a start would be to simply rename the binary package to libgmerlin1

anything else?

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Re: Bug#605827: pd-iemnet: FTBFS on non-Linux: undefined references

2010-12-08 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 12/08/2010 06:06 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 10:00 -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 14:23, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:

 On 2010-12-03 21:26, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Source: pd-iemnet
 Version: 0.1-1
 Severity: important

 Hi,

 your package FTBFS on non-Linux with undefined references:

 thanks for reporting.


 this hould be fixed in the next upload.

 @pkg-multimedia-maintainers: i have updated the git repository to
 include the makefile fixes for both hurd and kFreeBSD.

 Are these fixes only on the Makefile template? (Sorry I'm not on my pc
 right now). If so, this patch should be applied to all the pd-*
 packages we have.
 
 My most recent packages included an attempt to fix these build issues.
 Once those prove successful, I'll update the rest of my packages.
 

i tested the fix on kFreeBSD (though not on hurd), and it works.

i find it faster and more convenient to setup an emulation (VirtualBox,
qemu,...) running kFreeBSD/i386 and hurd/i386 and test changes there
than to wait for a DD to upload a package that has a potential fix for a
problem, then wait until the package is accepted into unstable (we are
talking about NEW packages here), esp. as long as squeeze is still
frozen, then wait till it gets build on the relevant architecture (i
remember Gem being stalled for about 2 months because of a dead armel
machine), then study the build logs and re-iterate till the problem gets
really fixed.

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pd-pkg-tools

2010-12-03 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
hi all,

based on previous suggestion i started to create a (debian native)
package pd-pkg-tools, which should make packaging of pd-libraries easier.

currently it only contains new snippets for cdbs, but on the long run
i'd like to have dh-shortform makefile snippets as well.

the package itself uses CDBS.

i haven't filed an ITP yet (is there any difference between a
debian/native package and a normal upstream package, regarding debian
policy?...probably i should just have a look at the dp :-))

also i don't know whether this is a welcome addition to pkg-multimedia.
therefore, for the time being, i have only pushed the package to my
repository at github:
https://github.com/umlaeute/pd-pkg-tools

so if somebody could have a look i would be grateful.
esp, my cdbs knowledge is probably not very sophisticated (yet), so i
might have done all the DONTs (e.g. i still have no real clue what is
supposed to go into class and what should go into rules)

so far i have packaged one very simple pd-library with it, and the
debian/rules file boils down to 3 lines (without the boiler-plate).

this package (pd-syslog) is currently also on github
https://github.com/umlaeute/pd-syslog
since i was unsure about it's hard dependency on pd-pkg-tools.

comments please

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Re: pd-pkg-tools

2010-12-03 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 12/03/2010 02:42 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote:
 2010/12/3 IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at:
 hi all,

 based on previous suggestion i started to create a (debian native)
 package pd-pkg-tools, which should make packaging of pd-libraries easier.
 
 Great!

cool
 
 I would welcome it.

cool

 might have done all the DONTs (e.g. i still have no real clue what is
 supposed to go into class and what should go into rules)
 
 I think this should go into rules, but Jonas can give a more informed answer.

i was hoping for jonas to say something on this :-)
 

 so far i have packaged one very simple pd-library with it, and the
 debian/rules file boils down to 3 lines (without the boiler-plate).

 this package (pd-syslog) is currently also on github
 https://github.com/umlaeute/pd-syslog
 since i was unsure about it's hard dependency on pd-pkg-tools.

 comments please
 
 The documentation is a bit wrong: The pd Depends is not handled yet.

is it not?...

 
 Maybe the Depends should be expanded to a new substvar?

that was my original idea.
then i discovered that cdbs can already do it, and so i just hooked to
that: cdbs:Depends should get updated to depend on pd (if you
included  .../pd.mk) or puredata (if you included .../puredata.mk)

at least this seems to work with the pd-syslog example.


however, i'm quite open to go back to pd:Depends as well...

 
 Wild wishlist... would it be possible to detect if the installed pd
 patches/objects use another library? So that the appropriate depends
 are added?

oh, you mean not binary dependencies (as are generated by
dpkg-shlibdeps), but simply if an object.pd references [pddp/link] it
would automatically depend on pd-pddp?

that would be a cool feature indeed, though not easily done.

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Re: pd-pkg-tools

2010-12-03 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 12/03/2010 03:23 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 
 It seems to contain *only* hooks for CDBS and (in the future)
 debhelper), no other PD-specific ressource.  I therefore suggest to try

well, this could change at any time :-)

 convince the maintainers of CDBS and debhelper, respectively, to adopt
 in in their packages, rather than maintaining this special-purpose package.


well, i thought it would probably be of minor interest to the entirety
of DDs using cdbs to have pd-specific parts in it (it's not that i
expect a use as wide as with perl or python).

so i picked one of the precedents (namely ruby-pkg-tools) and modelled
my package after that.

 
 With my CDBS maintainer hat on, I'd be happy to adopt the CDBS parts
 into CDBS itself!

this of course would make long term maintainance easier...


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Re: Thoughts on pd object packaging - use of cdbs might be preferable?

2010-11-12 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 11/11/2010 08:30 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
 I'd like to have my packages work on all Debian platforms, but I have
 never worked with hurd or kfreebsd, nor have had any feedback that there
 are problems.  As far as I can tell, my packages build on all Debian
 platforms.  

just call the build-logs for any of those packages. e.g.
https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=pd-motex

but this was just meant as an example for the added benefit of using a
common cdbs/dh/.. snippet.


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Re: Thoughts on pd object packaging - use of cdbs might be preferable?

2010-11-12 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 11/12/2010 06:10 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 Ah yes, still learning my way around all the Debian tools, they are
 pretty large.  A common snippet would be great, no argument here.

so now, we only have to do it :-)

 About the HURD/kFreeBSD issue, it seems to be a linking issue, do we
 have to handle the linking differently with those kernels?  I guess the
 Makefile is lacking uname detection for those kernels, since its looking
 for 'Linux'.  Hopefully just using the same settings for the other two
 kernels will work.

yes, i think the only problem is that the Makefile thinks that it is
compiling for an unknown target os (because uname returns something
unknown), thus no CFLAGS, LDFLAGS,... are defined which means the
defaults: the .c files are compiled as applications, which obviously
won't work at all.

and yes, you should be able to use the very same flags as on linux (and
see the other thread why it might be a good idea to keep pd_linux as the
filename extension for all debian)

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Re: pd-zexy compilation improvements

2010-08-27 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 08/24/2010 12:55 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 09:25:12AM +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

 Hmm. Do we then perhaps need to beware of this for helper tools like
 lintian and dh_shlibdeps?
 
 I actually do not think that dh_shlibdeps has any role here, just
 mentioning it as an example: For Debian packaging we have a bunch of
 helper tools used either directly during packaging or during various
 tests and inspections, which rely on e.g. shared libraries ending in .so
 and located below /usr/lib.  When then unusual things are done, we might
 want to add hints for such tools to not hide potential problems from them.
 
 Or expressed differently: Even if PureData works splendid with its
 unusual naming, we still might benefit in Debian (and derivatives) from
 using the classic .so extension if indeed it is technically the same.


i think there is no issue here at all.
we are talking about modules (binaries that can be dlopen()ed).

dlopen()ed modules are technically quite the same as shlibs (meaning,
the way they are built), but are used in a different way, that makes
issues such as installation path and/or rpath irrelevant (at least, as
far as i understand it)

so from this perspective, we don't have to care about the extension.
(i guess this came from my confusing use of shared library; sorry for
that; anyhow, debian-policy is quite clear that modules need not have
an .so extension)

the other point is of course, whether tools like dh_shlibdeps and
dh_strip work correctly.
i can only say from experience, that they do.
e.g. the binary Gem.pd_linux in the package gem is correctly stripped
and the package depends on all packages that provide libraries the
binary has been dynamically linked to.
debian/rules does not extra care of shlibs.
so it seems to just work

i think that changing the default extension of pd-plugins only in
Debian, will make things unnecessary complicated, as it would require to
patch the module-loader of puredata as well as practically every single
build system for externals, only to find ourselves deviant from and
incompatible with virtually any other puredata distribution.

to sum up, i don't think the gain would outweigh the cost.
(esp. since there is currently no real gain, as  adhere to the
debian-policy and all tools work as expected)

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pd-zexy_2.2.3-2 (please)

2010-08-27 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
i think the current git for pd-zexy includes 2 fixes that would justify
a new upload:

- fixes kFreeBSD / hurd issue (build-system guessing the wrong
module.extension)

- fixes policy-violation (sse-binaries on x86)

if you agree it would be great if you could review, tag and upload the
package (if you have the right permissions)

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Re: request for membership, ITA

2010-08-13 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 08/13/2010 02:37 AM, Felipe Sateler wrote:


 ping.

thanks for reviewing

 Also, the copyright file could use some updating (what are your
 contributions, etc). There are some files with copyrights other than
 yourself.

thanks. there are some contributions in some files, which i have plainly
forgotten.
i have updated the debian/copyright notice.

 
 debian/dirs seems to be redundant.

right; i have deleted it now.
it always feels like playing safe when adding directories to debian/dirs...

 
 Aand... short-form dh7 seems to not work correctly. since there is a
 build directory, debian/rules build says that 'build' is up to date. And
 phony targets do not seem to work with dh7.
 This means that the package ends up being built under root (in the
 binary stage), which is frowned upon by policy.
 

i'm not sure whether i fully understand this (i understand the part
about the policy; i don't understand the part about dh7): is this a bug
i can/should do something about or is it a bug in dh which has to be
fixed in the debhelper-package?


 Why do you install zexy into a non standard pd path?


i don't.
i install the zexy library (binaries and abstractions) into
/usr/lib/pd/extra/zexy/ which is quite the standard way to do it.
Pd will look for binaries as /usr/lib/pd/extra/name.pd_linux and as
/usr/lib/pd/extra/name/name.pd_linux, so it will be able to load
zexy without any further ado.

however, zexy bundles a number of abstractions (Pd interpreter files).
they used to be installed in Pd's default search path
(/usr/lib/pd/extra) and are now installed into /usr/lib/pd/extra/zexy
(both upstream and in my debian package)
reasoning:
- these files are mostly Pd implementations of functionality offered by
the binary library. so they are a bit redundant but can be used as
drop-in replacement, either for educational purposes or because the user
does not want to load the binary plugin
- the remaining files are just ordinary Pd files. the user will have to
add -path /usr/lib/pd/extra/zexy to their flags in order to use them
as they used to do with older version of zexy (e.g. the last debian
package). this is mainly to avoid namespace pollution.
figuring that in the near future a lot of new packages for Pd will make
it into Debian, we have to take care that these packages don't conflict
(providing the same files with different functionality).
hopefully this can be handled without excessive use of the Conflicts:
tag...

does this make sense?

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pd-zexy (was Re: request for membership, ITA)

2010-08-13 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 08/13/2010 10:13 AM, IOhannes zmölnig wrote:
 

 Aand... short-form dh7 seems to not work correctly. since there is a
 build directory, debian/rules build says that 'build' is up to date. And
 phony targets do not seem to work with dh7.
 This means that the package ends up being built under root (in the
 binary stage), which is frowned upon by policy.

 
 i'm not sure whether i fully understand this (i understand the part
 about the policy; i don't understand the part about dh7): is this a bug
 i can/should do something about or is it a bug in dh which has to be
 fixed in the debhelper-package?


so i have now switched from using dh directly to cdbs, assuming that
this fixes the issue and to get cdbs addicts back on board :-)

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Re: pd-zexy (was Re: request for membership, ITA)

2010-08-13 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 08/13/2010 12:05 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:

 so i have now switched from using dh directly to cdbs, assuming that
 this fixes the issue and to get cdbs addicts back on board :-)
 
 Awesome (for me).
 
 For fairness sake, I should probably mention that I am the only one in
 this team strongly pro CDBS, while it seems (though we have no hard
 numbers) that several others are opposed to it...

i see.
the first reaction on #debian-multimedia was:  *sigh* more cdbs...

 
 
 README.Debian is wrongly encoded: Your name contain a non-ASCII
 character not encoded as UTF-8 which is mandatory these days.

i'll try to fix that.
i never completely figured how to do the UTF-8 think correctly...
iconv should do the trickdone!

 
 Changelog says the package is quilt'ified.  That seems a superfluous
 comment to me, since there is nothing in the package (not even
 infrastructure files) for patching.

well yes:
i started from the original pd-zexy package, which had patches and
quiltified them.
when upgrading to the latest upstream release, these patches became
superfluous (since they were already included).
however, source/format now reads 3.0 (quilt), so i thought that was
quiltification enough.

feel free to remove the line in the changelog.

 
 It seems it could make sense to add a NEWS file mentioning the change of
 path, so that existing users get informed about the need to add to pd-path.

that's a good idea.
i'll do that.
are there any tools for handling the NEWS file?

 
 Now that you use CDBS, would you then mind me adding a couple of
 additional features of that - like auto-resolving build-dependencies,
 get-orig-source rule and copyright and licensing tracking?
 

sure, go ahead!

fgmadr
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