Re: [PLUG] Confirmation: PLUG meeting for November 2008 is scheduled on Saturday 9th November 2008, 4 pm @ SICSR
You can book CD/DVDs and collect them after the meeting. I would like Ubuntu 8.10 Desktop and Alternate CD -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Un Copying!! :-)
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:02 AM, ഓം [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every software if a copy, not the original. Originals are only created by the process.. Wise people truncate the last part of the process and call it a master disk or master software and then sell their copies!! Unless the same process of manufacturing is applied for all the pieces manufactured... it is a copy.. So what piece of software anybody sells is a copy not the original. **and companies like $ who have master disks** can be successfully ( tactically) be labeled **copyleft**, because they never leave their premises :-) whatever you name it cloning a disk.. or whatever it is still a exact replica, meaning a copy!! This could be called a **definition flaw.. or perceived flaw in definition** All arguments on this point are (un :-) welcome as long as they are in the context of Linux and copying and legality of copying Dude, I agree with some of the comments 1. What !!! Yes. What !!! 2. I personally find lot of your posts amusing, but this one went on top of my head. 3. Like someone said, what is the point if your audience can't comprehend what you are saying -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Asus EeePC
Is the price justified ? What model? What price? Asus EeePC 4G - Around Rs 18K (I thin exact price was 17890, not sure if taxes were extra) -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
[PLUG] Asus EeePC
Hello, I happened to look at one at croma store in Ishanya mall. I was impressed. Please share your experience if you own one. Is the price justified ? Other comments also welcome -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Flash Alternative
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 1:47 AM, Aman Kumar Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I was asking about some alternative to make flash files! Aman Kumar Jain wrote: Can any one help me with an alternative for FLASH ? please read http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise (Aditya, Thanks for this link.) -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
[PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C
I'm looking for suggestions for LiveCD that suits following setup. 1. Boot from the linux LiveCD. 2. connect your USB thumb drive to access your C assignments program. 3. Open Vi/Editor to write new code. Save code onto the thumb drive. 4. compile your programs using gcc 5. IDE is bonus but not mandatory. Ubuntu LiveCDs do not have gcc -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C
Without deviating too much, I also assume, Amit Karpe (from Pune?) had posted a Custom build of Ubuntu with all CS based developer tools within the LIVE CD. Amit, may be you can elaborate more on that option, apart from Knoppix and Fedora Spin. I'm assuming CS==Computer Science, in which I would be very interested to know about it. I will give knoppix a try, but would first prefer to know about this custom ubuntu LiveCD mentioned above. For now I'll skip fedora DVD. Thanks all for overwhelming response. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C
However, it is assumed, that the C programs are mostly console based. That should be OK. This is meant for beginner/intermediate level. So I don't expect the students to write fancy GUI programs. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Need LiveCD for Students to learn C
Digressing a bit - how about _not_ allowing an IDE at all ? IMHO, using a console based editor is an important and essential skill when operating *nix kind of OSes. Also, using IDEs right from the beginning will keep the student in dark about what goes into compiling and debugging a program. And I personally agree, and I'm doing my bit. But this student comes to me for consultation, and I do not control rest of his learning time (college lab/home) I've started with gEdit and gcc. Personally I would prefer to teach Vi/Vim, but then my focus would move from C to Vi. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Linux based phones.
Since long time back I am looking out for Linux-based cellphones/PDA devices but their high prising discouraged me all the time, what's the situation now? MotoMing is available around 10500 Also can we hack/customize the embedded OS inside it as per the need? You can put variety of non-official firmware. You can tweak it with something called RadioComm You can telnet into the phone (Isn't that cool ?) Some people have also 'dual booted' the phone, but not something that everyone will be able to do. Please refer to link I sent earlier. (motorola fans) You'll get pretty clear idea. Do let us know which one you end up buying, and your experience with hacking. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Linux based phones.
On Dec 26, 2007 10:55 AM, Pranav Peshwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Does anybody have any experience of using Linux based smartphones available in the (Indian) market ? Google gives a lot of results, but i would like to know real life experiences. Also, how do they compare with 'Windows Mobile' phones ? I have been using A1200 (motoming) for about 18 months now, without any issues. Some of the points mentioned by others apply : 1. Touchscreen only - Avg battery life of 2 days. 2. Has a flap, which hosts the earpiece Not sure whether I am able to explain correctly) It is NOT a passive protective cover. 3. No way to pickup a call without opening a flap (may be possible using bluetooth hands free, I have not tried) 4. Not easy to open the flap using one hand (Usually good thing, but due to #2 and #3 above, this posses problem at times.) 5. Very active community - http://www.motorolafans.com/forums/tags/index.php/a1200/ 6. Lots of applications available, may not be 1:1 mapping with applications for WinMobile. 7. Doesn't have EDGE/WiFi, if that is requirement -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Kingfisher - linux
Thirdly, did they reboot it mid-air or on ground? The topic is around in-flight entertainment. So it may be OK, even if rebooted mid-air. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Cheat Sheet / Quick Start Guide
You can find pdf, sxw rtf copies of the same at http://laulkar.com/files/ , although they might be a bit outdated. I checked V0.003 PDF file. Great Work !!! Some inputs : 1. Can we add Opera in browser list ? Although not open source. 2. Spell check Eclipse -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions. -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [OT] : Google Calendar SMS setup for IDEA customers
Per Google website, neither Airtel, nor BSNL is expected to work. http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?answer=37226hl=en#I But I too got verification code from Google on my Airtel. So best thing to try is enter your mobile number, and click Send verification Code, see if you get it. Best luck !! -DP On Dec 3, 2007 3:23 PM, ಓಂ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like everybody else except ?dea has ?dea of how to make it work on their network... -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: ( plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions. -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] WiFi card for Desktop
On Nov 2, 2007 10:47 PM, ಓಂ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like you are specifically looking for Wifi card, but have you considered a Wifi USB Dongle as a choice? Devendra had given demo/presentation using WiFi USB Dongle at one of the PLUG meetings. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Celeron vs Pentium + linux reco?
On Oct 30, 2007 7:25 PM, Makarand Mhaiskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks all for your inputs. finally, for about rs. 700 more (processor+mobo) over celeron, i got an athlon x2 dual core!! 'coolquiet' and pretty fast with 1gb ram. 64-bit processor, isn't it ? So in case you are going for slackware, get slamd64. OpenSuse has 64-bit variant I believe. Enjoy !! -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] KWGR614 or WRT54GL
Sorry for the delay in answering, but I am sure, one antenna is for the G band and the other is for the B band. I don't mean to distrust, but I really want to find data to backup this claim. I tried searching the web, but didn't find evidence to suggest that two antennas are for 'b' and 'g' variant each. (May be I didn't look hard enough) This wikipedia page also doesn't mention something about one antenna is for the G band and the other is for the B band. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G Here is an image of Wireless-B only linksys router with two antennas. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Linksys_Router.png Can someone provide more details ? Pointers to URLs would be nice. -DP P.S: I know people on PLUG mailing list are easily offended (some anyway), so let me repeat I do not mean to distrust. Let me apologize in advance if I have hurt anyone's feeling by asking more data. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] KWGR614 or WRT54GL
All, Thanks for all your suggestions/comments. I finally bought Linksys WRT54GL. It has been good so far (Got it only few days ago, really) Price : Sujata Computers near Nalstop. Rs. 3000 without haggling. This router has two antennas. You can point one horizontally, and one vertically, if required. I get good signal strength within my house. Never checked across floors. I plan to put DD-WRT firmware ( http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page) on this router sometime. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ On 10/23/07, Chetan Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friends Please contribute information on the price/vendor Linksys routers under discussion. Regards, Chetan -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] muktadnyan
On 10/23/07, Vaibhav Kulkarni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/22/07, Desi Penguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a nitpick, correct way to spell ज्ञान is jnan, not dnyan. So website should be muktajnan.org :) i'm not language guru, but i think jnyan is the hindi pronunciation while dnyan is the marathi one. anyone agree to that? Per my understanding, hindi should be more like gyan ज्ञान is sanskrit. I know Roman script can not accurately represent all the devnagari alphabets. But jn is more closer than dnyn. By the way, the original alphabet used in sankrit is moolashar, not jodakshar. -DP P.S: I'm OK to end this discussion here, I'm not trying to prove any point. I just find this discussion interesting, but I also understand that it does not belong to PLUG, unless marked [OT] -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
[PLUG] KWGR614 or WRT54GL
All, I'm considering to buy one of these routers for my home system. Whats special with these two ? Well Linksys WRT54GL runs linux and is known to be hackable with 3rd party firmwares like DD-WRT. I'm getting this for Rs 3500 It comes with 3 yrs warranty http://www-in.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2childpagename=IN%2FLayoutcid=1139845749947pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapperlid=4994785430B07 Other one is Netgear, it is supposed to run open source software. Not sure what it means. The cost is Rs 2200, comes with one year warranty. http://netgear.co.in/Products/RoutersandGateways/GWirelessRouters/KWGR614.aspx Any suggestions based on your personal experiences will be helpful. Thanks -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] muktadnyan
Just a nitpick, correct way to spell ज्ञान is jnan, not dnyan. So website should be muktajnan.org :) I'm sure ಓಂ will agree :) -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ On 10/20/07, ಓಂ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: मुक्तज्ञान याचा संधी असाही (not pentax) होतो... मूक तज्ञ आन... meaning Silent oath of an expert!! (Or Oath of a [p]Silent Expert :-) depending how you read it... [This is very similar to Hypocritic Oath of Doctors (medical professionals) take..] Thanks for spreading the word about the work being done in and for मराठी. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Sabayon 3.4 available
I could find any statement ti support this ... Should read as ... I could NOT find any statement to support this -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ On 8/1/07, Desi Penguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sabayon is a Debian based disto. Are you sure ? I thought it was based on Gentoo ? I could find any statement ti support this, but the footer on the main page mentions something about Gentoo. Can someone clarify ? -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Sabayon 3.4 available
Sabayon is a Debian based disto. Are you sure ? I thought it was based on Gentoo ? I could find any statement ti support this, but the footer on the main page mentions something about Gentoo. Can someone clarify ? -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [OT] a question!
pronunciation guides / wav files. I once had a French-English-French dictionary (brick mortar version) that had pronunciation guides and a Did you mean to say Dead Tree version ? :) -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Re: Distros for a 1.66 GHZ, 128 MB RAM machine (Aneesh Mulye)
OR Dreamlinux [http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/index.html] . Zenwalk is Slackware based, and Dreamlinux is Debian based. The good thing about both of them is that they run XFCE desktop, and support all media types. [Dreamlinux has Mac OSX like look and is very hard to configure it back to linux look] I have tried Dreamlinux and liked it a lot, due to mac-like interface. In my opinion, it was one of the distro that just worked (Like MacOSX ?) My hardware was : 1.4GHZ, 256MB -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] LAMP Help
what IDE's are good for doing php development under linux? Vim Eclipse -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [ot] make free - ruin the country.
TIP: don't buy services from people whose website doesn't even work, and whose channel partners abandon them for Sify ;-). Wish I had that luxury of choosing the broadband provider. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Booting Problem in Mepis: Distribution selection
Had I got ubuntu CD with me, I might have tried it with Laptop. But the ubuntu I saw last time did not install KMail which is my favourite of few years. You need Kubuntu for that. Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE. Incidentally, KMail is favourite with me as well. I have used it with Mandriva, SuSe and also with Mepis. If you need, I do have Kubuntu CD and can make a copy. If you wait just a day or two (April 19th to be precise, possibly South Africa time), Ubuntu will release their latest version 7.04 I guess kubuntu won't be far away, if not on same day. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: WARNING 2: Re: [PLUG] Tata Indicom Broadband on Linux
Ah, but Aditya, mutt *is* user friendly. It's just not the easiest thing in the world to learn. There's a difference between easy to learn and user friendly. :-) This reminds of the quote about UNIX. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy#Quotes) *Unix is user-friendly. It just isn't promiscuous about which users it's friendly with.* -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
[PLUG] QT Tutorial
I have seen lot of emails lately asking for help on QT application development. Following link might be useful. http://www.clivecooper.co.uk/tutorial/index.html I came across this when I was surfing ubuntu website to check when Feisty Fawn will be be released (April 19th, in case you are wondering) -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: WARNING 3: Re: [PLUG] Tata Indicom Broadband on Linux
3) I never knew discouraged was defined as not allowed. I wholeheartedly agree to this :) Additionally not allowed doesn't mean not allowed for everyone. It is lot more like top posting is not allowed if Webmaster caught you top-posting, if not you are OK Flame on -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] help I need with Knoppix
Gene, The first problem ahead seems to be establishing Internet connection. My provider T-Com does not appear on the list. Besides, I kept being asked things I have no idea of. The connection dialogue in SuSe was very simple. It is kind of surprising that you are seeking help form Indian LUG, when you, yourself are from Germany. Knoppix was written in and by German person, isn't that correct ? I think you might get better help locally, regarding service provider issues. Off course PLUG members will also help, but I thought I should suggest alternatives. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] socketcall hook
I am tring to hook socket system call and want to add some extra functionality But i am not able to link sys_bind() function in socketcall. It says unresolved symbol. What compiler/linker options have you used ? In order to get it work, i copied the sys_bind() call from the socket.c file to the .c file that i am using. Now the system is working fine. Is this approach is correct one ? or will it create some problems in future. While this is good hack, this should not be used in long term. At some point you'll have to resolve the liking error. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Re: GNU India on the Microsoft scourge in Government
On 3/23/07, श्रीधर नारायण दैठणकर [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 23 March 2007 10:40, Desi Penguin wrote: On 3/22/07, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/22/07, Kaustubh Gadkari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DNS works for me too. I can resolve www.gnu.org.in to 158.144.44.134 . I just can't get to the machine! :-) Have you tried OpenDNS ? Might Help. He can resolve the host so another DNS is not required, IMO. Shridhar Agreed and understood. I had not seen other emails on this topic yet. My bad. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Re: GNU India on the Microsoft scourge in Government
On 3/22/07, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/22/07, Kaustubh Gadkari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DNS works for me too. I can resolve www.gnu.org.in to 158.144.44.134. I just can't get to the machine! :-) Have you tried OpenDNS ? Might Help. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
[PLUG] Data Card Support under Linux
Recently lot of laptop vendors give Datacard (Reliance ot TataIndicom) free or at discounted rate with laptop. Earlier today I saw that one of the HP laptops provide free data card, but to keep costs down they ship with FreeDOS. Obviously options are to install Linux or Windows. Has anyone successfully used these datacards under linux ? (I'm interested in ubuntu, but any other distro is OK too) -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] devnagari keyboard layout
If something crashes, typically a restart fixes it. In this case a login/logout may be. I am surprised that you need a reinstall in such a case. I agree. *reinstall* is drastic step. I really hope you mean restart/reboot. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Anyone interested in Solaris/OpenSolaris ?
If anyone else is interesting in Solaris/OpenSolaris/Solaris user group activity in Pune, do write to me, and we'll get in touch with each other. Is there a mailing list (or are you planning to start one ?) I would subscribe for sure. I'm not sure how much time I'll get for offline activities. There may be more such people here on PLUG. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
[PLUG] GeeP - Geeks of Pune
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/geep_linux/ -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Re: [OT] broadband 2007
Thx. It seems it has not been working since Shridhar last mentioned it in December. I saw in Henry J. Cobb's server room that he did have Exatt's troubleshooting phone nos. Are you still on Exatt, Henry? Can you throw some light here? BTW, I am myself on exatt. But I get the service thru one of their franchise. I'm not too happy with them, but generally it is OK. Plus I have no other choice :( The service was working till yesterday night. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Re: [OT] broadband 2007
Can you share their contact numbers, please? I'd like to know when they start a service in my area. 65619909. This is call center number. But they'll be able to provide the correct number (Marketing Dept ?) Also try sending email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW, in case you are in and around Prabhat Rd/Karve nagar area, you can contact Videolinks @ 65216928. They are franchise and exatt had directed me to them for my connection. HTH -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Re: [OT] broadband 2007
On 1/3/07, श्रीधर नारायण दैठणकर [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 02 January 2007 23:13, Nishit Dave wrote: Speaking of ISPs, what's up with Exatt? Their website at http://www.xbroadband.in seems to have disappeared! try exatt.com. An entire front page in flash is too much(or too less.. flash doesn't run on 64bit linux so entire thing is empty) but it is there.. Shridhar But once you click Broadband services, it takes you to xbroadband.in, which gives dns_unresolved_host error. (Which is what Nishit was asking about) -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Broadband 2007 ! Continues....
able to give connections to all customers who sent request 2~3 months ago. Its a sad thing. I've been waiting since Aug 2005. Yes 2005. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Linux with Iqara / YOU
On 12/3/06, श्रीधर नारायण दैठणकर [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 03 December 2006 13:49, Anand Nene wrote: On 12/2/06, श्रीधर नारायण दैठणकर wrote: 10GB download quota 10GB enough for you? :) I waste it. Never surpass past 2-3GB at the most. And that takes couple of ISOs to get there.. Otherwise 600-800MB is what I reach.. Shridhar I'm on exatt myself (Not even completed one month). I completely agree with *all* things said by shridhar, including a longish post related to reliability. I also don't see myself using full 10GB, but it is good to know that I have much bigger download limit. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Need to Watch the other screen
I hope my question is clear all of you will understand it !!! Waiting for the sweet Reply ;-) VNC? I agree. Seems like VNC is what should help you. As far telnet sessions go, there is a utility called screen, which can help you. While VNC is for GUI shareing, screen works similarly for text only apps. HTH -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] The Java Is Open Contest
On 11/16/06, Aditya Godbole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/16/06, Harshad Oak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Plug Members, As you might know, Java Is Now Open Source. Java will be developed under Dual License. Sun will continue to Develop/support Java under commerical license (and possibly contribute the enhancements back to GPL version) This is similar to OpenOffice/StarOffice. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Can we file PIL (Public Interest Litigation)
policy to promote something which is better for country. Subsidy on LPG, Urea Diesel are just few to mention is this free country. Same also I'm no lawayer and don't claim to understand what is PIL, but how can we compare LPG/Diesel etc with Linux support ? I can understand PIL in terms of providing better roads in Pune. How many people in India have any kind of access to computers (Linux or otherwise ?) How many people constitute public (as in Public Interest Litigation) BTW, I'm totally there with you for demanding Linux support for HW, but PIL is far too legal and needs to be looked at very carefully. Like some others have pointed out that creating demand is better way to ensure you get what you want. I think IBM has the policy stated, because they thought that there is enough demand they can't afford to ignore, not because they are just good guys. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Microsoft Linux?
On 11/9/06, Vivek Kutal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/ --Vivek, Thanks for posting the link. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Exatt.net Broadband
On 11/1/06, Amod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have intermedia cable communications ( ICC) cable connectionis exatt.net available on ICC ? plz reply Please check http://www.xbroadband.in/html/locator.html to see exatt.net is available in your area. Also call Pune office. Info available at : http://www.xbroadband.in/html/contact.html HTH -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Exatt.net Broadband
On 11/1/06, श्रीधर नारायण दैठणकर [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 01 November 2006 10:12, Vaibhav Kulkarni wrote: Maybe you could try Reliance. I'm having Reliance broadband connection since about a month. No problems till now. Charges are pretty OK too (Rs. 450 for unlimited download). Damn if you do damn if you don't... Reliance is chasing corporate customers.. apparently nobody believes that one can run a software business from home.. Lot of people don't believe that and treat the customers like slaves.. I wish I could pay 1000/- p.m. to get two independent links.. I am willingto do that only if I could.. Not many areas has more than one broadband provider. My sentiments exactly. What more can I say ? -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Exatt.net Broadband
I do. Speed is what they promise so are the downloads. Their DNS is bad so run your own caching DNS against something like openDNS. Here are the nameservers I use --- nameserver 217.115.138.24 nameserver 202.89.131.4 nameserver 199.166.29.3 nameserver 199.5.157.128 --- I just renewed the connection and banging my head against wall for all day long. The reactivation took a good part of the day. But I guess that depends upon the cablewala in the area. I have another connection from the same in deccan area and that is very prompt service. And it is plain pppoe. So it works in linux in less than 5 minutes setup. HTH Shridhar Shridhar, Thanks for detailed info, heads up on DNS and all. Still waiting for feasibility report and connection etc. Will get back to you, when I get connected. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Exatt.net Broadband
Secondly, go with Tata they are better than the rest. Exatt no idea, but would any day prefer TATA. Interesting you should say that. While looking for YOU telecom post on dhoomketu, I saw a post regarding tata indicom (http://www.dhoomketu.net.in/node/14) I have come to believe that those who praise tata indicom are plain *lucky* Most of the other *not-so-lucky* people are cursing Tata Indicom. As far myself, I've applied for Tata anyway, and will go for it *if* they ever finish their feasibility study. so I haven't given up on Tata, but most likely Tata indicom has given up on customers I am sorry if I seem bit harsh. I had no idea that getting a decent broadband service would be so much head ache. :( -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Tata Indicom + (Slackware) Linux.
On 10/9/06, Atul Sowani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am planning to have Tata Indicom broadband connection for my PC. Unrelated to the technical part of the discussion, but I haven't heard good things about Tata indicom's broadband. Problems typically start even before you get the connection activated. Search google for tata indicom broadband review. Few of the people I have personally talked waited 4 months for the connection and gave up since they got broadband service from other provider during that time. I myself was considering Tata after my current broadband stopped working a month ago (You telecom, earlier called Iqara) but I decided against it after reading the horror stories. Having said that, you may not have much choice, if no other ISP provides service in your area. But please be sure that you jump into this with full knowledge of what to expect. Disclaimer: 1. I have nothing against Tata Indicom. I just wanted to warn a fellow pluggie. 2. There would be few people on this list who are happy with Tata Indicom. Good for them. 3. Since lot of people had exp with Tata doesn't necessarily mean you too will face similar problem. -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [OT] I need 100MHz / 133MHz SDRAM for an ancient box
Sounds a bit costly; how much for 512 MB chip? I was *told* that SDRAMs are costly because DDR memory is more widely used. if there aren't as many buyers for SDRAM, then it will be costly. Disclaimer: I do not have statistics of DDR users Vs SDRAM users, so above information may be inaccurate. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [OT] I need 100MHz / 133MHz SDRAM for an ancient box
now, I will have to get the mem chips. Do you have their phone numbers (Baba / Unique)? Some googling always helps: http://yellowpages.sulekha.com/pune/computers-telecommunication/accessories-parts/business.aspx?cid=481875 (Sadhu Vaswani Chowk) http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:i4Q8CN2tKgQJ:www.punediary.com/itcomp_1.html+Baba+Computers+Punehl=engl=usct=clnkcd=1 Baba Computers: (Tilka Rd) 24485561 / 24485268 / 24003398 Disclaimer: This is off the net, so may be incorrect/not updated. You may also be able to find their numbers in local newspapers. Classified Section which contains ads for computer repair shops. HTH -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [OT] Language, tone and approach in posts from {Re: [PLUG] DSL modem}
Finally **I** have a concern: 1. When the participants (you are possibly a veteran) of this forum start ignoring the basic etiquettes, what happens to the forum: http://www.plug.org.in/mailinglist.php Please read Point 18 under the sub-section Posting to the List in the section Mailing List Etiquette. Except when using abbreviations, you should not capitalize ... like you have with the words - lot, all and fact - none of which are abbreviations. You surely know, capitalization is the electronic way of shouting at people. As you've noticed, entire sentences aren't capitalized. If you try reading aloud my post and shouting when you encounter capitalized word, i think you'll find it is very difficult. Point I am making is that yes, I am aware that capitalizing is equivalent of shouting (if everything is in caps) I think when individual words are capitalized it has an effect of putting *stress* of certain words, which is certainly what I was going for. Thanks for reminding me of the rules. I link your style of using asterix around the word one needs to stress. I've already used in in this post :) -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] DSL modem
Which is the static configuration? Does Tata Indicom give you static IPs. As far as I know no ISP in India does that. Isn't this a bold statement to make ? (without checking facts) Check http://www.tataindicombroadband.in/access/postpaid/order/tariff-post.html It says on top of the page that they provide free static IP with every connection. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [OT] I need 100MHz / 133MHz SDRAM for an ancient box
On 9/12/06, Ranjit Bhonsle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So wondering if anyone is interested in selling 100 MHz / 133 MHz SDRAM chips. Because all that I am getting elsewhere is 266 MHz. :( Try Unique Computers in Rasta Peth. He had 133MHz SDRAM. Regards, Ranjit. P.S:-I bought 128mb for 600Rs couple month back. I am also in same situation. I had called Baba Computers a while ago. He certainly has 133MHz SDRAM. Not sure of the cost though. They have shops on MG Rd as well as Tilak Rd. BTW, I decided against upgrading since my 256 is sufficient for now, I would rather wait for a another 10-12 months and upgrade the MoBo, faster CPU and more DDR memory. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] DSL modem
On 9/13/06, Arindam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is the static configuration? Does Tata Indicom give you static IPs. As far as I know no ISP in India does that. Isn't this a bold statement to make ? (without checking facts) Check http://www.tataindicombroadband.in/access/postpaid/order/tariff-post.html It says on top of the page that they provide free static IP with every connection. Yes it's a very very bold statement to make. So what's your problem? Did I say I had problem ? I am glad you agree that making statement about all the ISPs in India w/o checking facts about even the ISP in discussion was bold. I got no problem with that :) My concern is that when someone makes such statement (with such a confiedence) on wildly popular mailing list like this one, LOT of people (LOT != ALL) take this as FACT (ignoring the AFAIK part of the statement) This is how misinformation spreads. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] LFY Articles
On 9/7/06, Ebrahim A. Senejani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there LFY(Linux for You) Articles available on net? I had purchased LFY issue which had SuSE 10.1 DVD along with it (I think July/Aug issue) I realized that most of the articles were borrowed from other linux magazines. It was mentioned at the end of the article where they list details reagrding the author etc. So my point is try looking for original articles :) -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] adding entries to /proc/mounts
On 8/31/06, Arvind Ayyangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi ppl, i am posting in this mailing list for the first time and I hope i'm doing it right (I hope i'm asking the rights question) Please don't be so apologetic !! -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [OT] GNU/Linux based gaming console media players
On 8/11/06, Onkar Shinde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 GP2X - Gaming console, media player, ebook reader with TV out, USB and loads of battery life (2AA batteries) http://gp2x.co.uk/aboutgp2x.html http://www.gp2x.com/ http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5301220134006800824q=gp2x Titan Omni - Media player (MP3, OGG, WMA, DivX, XviD) having 30 GB hard disk with Bluetooth and USB connectivity. Lithium ion battery offering 8 hours of video or 15 hours audio playback http://titanglobalmedia.com/home_omni.html Available in India ? Pune specifically ? Where ? cost ? -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Distro selection
On 8/3/06, Aditya Godbole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm a bit out of touch with the latest and greatest distributions out there. I would like suggestions for a distribution that meets the following criteria - 1. For desktop use, for folks who cant use the CLI. 2. Machine - Intel hyperthreading, 512 MB RAM, about 10G of disk space available for the system, no other fancy hardware. Net access via PPPoE. 3. GUI based tools for system configuration. 4. Importing existing users during installation would be a great. 5. Option to skip bootloader installation. 6. No broadband access, so all software thats required should be there on discs. I hope I'm not expecting too much :) Not sure I understand #4. Are you upgrading an existing linux system ? About rest of the requirements, most modern distro support all of these. Ubuntu, SuSE, Mandriva, Knoppix . -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu CD's
5) Apple Darwin x86 (1 CD). Have you been able to install/use it on x86 platform ? I am interested in knwoing your experience in running OS-X on PC ? -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
[PLUG] [Commercial] Job: Contractor position for 6 months Unix and C skills
My company needs a person (or two) for 6 months with C and UNIX skills do some patching and tools work. This might become a permanent position after 6 months, no guarantees though. Good opportunity for freshers to get 'real' work experience. College students with required skills looking to do project also welcome. Send me your resume off-list on this email address. Someone from my company will get in touch with you. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Share Ubuntu 5.10 Installation experience
On 12/30/05, Gurudatta Raut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So r U trina telll that theres a option to install Knopix on harddisk in the Live CD ? Yes. There is an option to install knoppix on HDD. Always (?) has been. http://www.google.com/search?q=install+knoppix+on+hdd -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Share Ubuntu 5.10 Installation experience
booting playing around in Linux rebooted in Windows found out that my windowsXP HAL..dll got corrupted. I tried to fix that but couldn't hence had to re-install the whole OS which obviously re-wrote the whole of boot-loader. I had similar problem when installing (Dual boot) Ubuntu 5.10 When I told the installer to use my exisitng PCQLinux 2K partition (which was already ext3) why does it go ahead and mess with boot loader, I don't know. My windows wouldn't even boot. ..and I had aborted/cancelled Ubuntu install when ubuntu installer started giving errors about C:\Docume~1\ files. Again, why does it mess with Windows Partition at all ? When I checked using knoppix 4.02, there were few found.000, found.001 ... directory in C:. Thanks to Knoppix I was able to backup important data to other partion before re-installing XP. Righ now I have only XP. Planning to put knoppix on my ext3 partition. That's why I want to get rconnect running on Debian based (knoppix) distro. -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [ot]. laptop queries.
can anyone tell me the dealer/shop where i can get a good bargain? my budget is 25K. Have you checked House of Laptops on Tilak Road. Very close to swargate. I haven't purchased anything from there yet. But they have a LOT of variety. http://www.houseoflaptops.com and requirements are that it should work with ubuntu linux and i should be able to connect to net using mobile. You can just take Ubuntu LiveCD with you and check it first hand if the specific model you like, works with Ubuntu. Not sure about mobile part though. .. and do reply back when you end up buying up specific model. It might be helpful for others to know about it. Best Luck. -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
[PLUG] Do LUGs still matter ?
Read and Discuss at : http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/12/25/0433243.shtml?tid=215tid=106 -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] succeded in connecting to reliance
On 12/21/05, Vinayak Kulkarni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am able to connect net via net if any one want help please reply me with details Which distro are you using ? I want to connect reliance using Debian based distro (Knoppix 4.02/Ubuntu 5.10) -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Reclaim my Suse
2. Is there any way I can use XP's bootloader and boot into Suse? What do I need for this? Most definitely. This involves installing Suse boot sector on root partition of Suse instead of MBR. e.g /dev/hdax, instead of /dev/hda(which is MBR) then copying the boot sector to C:\ and editing boot.ini Detailed instructions can found at: http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+boot+windows+bootloader -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] connection to reliance
On 12/13/05, Agtech Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Vinayak, Dont waste time. Reliance will not work in Suse. I had a similar issue. Use Fedora or Redhat. I want to get it working on Debina flavour. Ubuntu5.10 OR Knoppix4 It used to work on PCQLinux 2K5 (FC Based) Any help/link/URL will be great -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Re: Confirmation: PLUG meeting for December 2005
I am not able to see any messages from PLUG since a few days. Can you please help me understaning a possible cause for this. Also I'd I've also noticed similar problem with my gmail account. :( But usually I get them in bulk later. I usually check the messages posted on the archives website, when I don't get them in gmail. Sorry I don't have solution. I just wait , whenever this happens. -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Re: Good NIC
On 12/5/05, Shantanoo Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +++ Dr Ranjit C Bhonsle [PLUG] [25-11-05 08:29 +0530]: | Hello all, | Which is a good quality NIC for connection to Dataone. | My mobo has usb headers only...them too 1.1. | So either get a 2.0 usb pci card or NIC. | Linux might not understand usb card. | So the query...price no bar. | I am on p-3 866.256mb on i810e. | Ranjit. Here is an email I recieved earlier on this mailing list. It is SAD that I am STILL for BSNL to provide me with DataOne. :( -DP -- Forwarded message -- From: Rohan Dighe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Aug 9, 2005 2:35 PM Subject: [PLUG] [PLUG} Linux Compatible ethernet Card To: Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List plug-mail@plug.org.in Yeah, sure I will give u a suggestion ! I bought Digi-Link, Digi-5700TX (10/100 Mbps Fast Ethernet Adapter) for Rs. 280.00 2days ago for my friend. I am using it for connecting to Dataone since april without any problems on the same card. I have FC3 and also tried mandrake 10.1 no problem with configuring digi link comes with a floppy and it has linux drivers also with it !! and Cellone is for mobile and dataone is for broadband be specific please Ok, i usually buy stuff from POONAM Pimpri he is the main dealer here also he has branch in pune so i can give u his no. This guy knows me personally as i used to sell hardware and stuff ok datacare is also quite cheap and i would also recommend BABA COMPUTER SHOPPEE at sadhu vasvani chowk and also COMPUCITY is also good enquire everywhere and then only think of buying if you want contact nos i have of everyone u can call me on this no if u want any detailed info 9890230250 Datacare is quite reliable person but i would definately tell u to buy from a place which is cheap coz network cards don't really have anything one more thing INTEX card is also good it's for 200rs and there is also another version of dlink it's for 380 it's some special version bye rohan..LDOM PS:- any hardware related queries welcome !!! -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions. -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: Re: [PLUG] How to write a makefile or installable script
If not possible please give guideline how to make rpm for RedHat or Debian distro, so that we have two different copie for two distro. Did you search for these instructions on google ? Anway, check following URLs http://www.unixreview.com/documents/s=8472/ur0307f/ http://ffem.org/daveb/pkgwrite/ -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Installing/ Configuring Modem on linux
hi, can anyone please send me steps of installing/configuring modem on linux - This link should be helpful. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Modem-HOWTO.html -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] How to write a makefile or installable script
Basically i want to copy all files and folders in /usr/lib and /usr/share. If any one know please help me by sending some examples or by hyperlink. Which distro are you targetting for distributing your project ? Depending upon the asnwer to this, there amy be various instructions that you need to follow. e.g on RH/FC you need to create RPM, so search for instructions on how to create RPM on google. Similarly for Debian based distro, you need to create .deb package. If you don't care about package manager then easiest thing to do is to distribute your project as tar.gz file. This is simplest and can be achieved easily via makefile as well. -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] vi and java
well i should go through the documentation you'd think and also you'd think i am taking the shortcut by asking you people instead of taking any efforts but please can anybody tell me how to copy paste in VI editor ( single line and also multiple lines ) I hope you are somwhat familar with VI, so when one says Yank they mean copy, in Vi lingo. Search for VI Cheat Sheet on google, you'll get a lots of hits. Look at them, take a print out of the one that you like. keep this printout near your computer where you use VI. Now to answer your question : 1. Copy single line : Have your cursor on the line you want to copy and in command mode press yy This will copy the line into the buffer 2. Copy multiple lines : Same as above except prepend the count before yy e.g to copy 3 lines, you'll use 3yy 3. Paste: Go to the line where you want it pasted, and in command mode, press p This will paste it BELOW the line where you have your cursor If you are using Vim, them you can try :he this will give you help. HTH, -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] How reset the root password
hi, does anybody has idea about reseting the root password in linux when the system boots incase the user has forgot the password ? Boot from one of the LiveCDs, then access the /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow and all relevant files on the HDD, remove the encrypted entries, then reboot into installed linux. I think root password should now be empty. Disclaimer : These instructions should be used only as guideline and may not be complete. I take no responsibilty for any side effects. It is always advisable to have a backup of the files that you are modifying, so that you can at least get back to 'existing' setup. -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] help regarding squid
on my port ...when i change that port its not work ...?? anybody have idea ?? Couple of obvious things to check : 1. If port is already being used by any other application. 2. Check Squid logs and see if your configuration changes have taken effect. Logs also might provide more clue as to where to look next. -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] USB Linux distro?
Anybody knows any latest and best USB linux distro? I have a 256MB USB Pen Drive. Please tell if there is any? You can try DSL 1.4 (Damn Small Linux) They claim to work off USB. DSL website is at http://damnsmalllinux.org/index.html They also sell USB drives which has DSL installed. Here is a discussion which may be relevant http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Setting_Up_Damn_Small_Linux_On_USB_Pen_Drive_t33174.html Only practical problem I've seen with USB based distro is that not very many PCs can boot off USB (At least mine doesn't) Best luck -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
[PLUG] Toggle Flash On/Off using User CSS in Opera
While ago, someone was asking if there is a way to turn off flash contents from particular page. Here is a way to do it in Opera (which is cross paltform, and now Free as beer) http://nontroppo.org/wiki/OperaTips#T57 -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] English - Marathi direct conversion
Devnagri. Let us suppose we have to write climbing in Hindi. what we shall write CHADHANA, CHADHANNA, CHADHNA, CHADANA, CHEDHANA or like Referring to the fonts I mentioned in my previous reply, each of these will reflect into different devnagari word (which is reflected in MS Word as soon as type each keystroke.) Since one know how should word chadhana look into devanagari, one uses correct keystrokes. BTW using anjali font I need to use following keystroks to achieve devnagari word chadhana: caZnaa Z represents dha in chandhana, c represents half ch, and ca makes it complete cha It is very easy to use though. -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Sharing My Updates With Other People On Ubuntu/Debian?
Say, I have installed KDE, VLC player etc on my base Ubuntu (Ubuntu is gnamoe based). I'm assuming that you've installed these packages using apt-get. If this assumption is correct, only then rest of my email makes sense. apt-get has an option for download only. (Check http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html) It also has an option of using local file system as source for .deb files. (Check http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html#s-sources.list) Combination of these two, should be able to give you the desired result. So how do I share my wares with him? Sharing in Windows is quite easy. You can just burn the install/setup files and give it to the person. Is there any similar way? Person having the fast net connection does apt-get -d (download only) Then burn the .deb files on to CD and use it to install on local machine as well as share the CD with other people without fast conneciton. I hope this answers your question. -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] the perfect distribution
i don't want to keep on trying out all of them ( Thats the best way to find out. Try QEMU, and run them in simulated mode, without touching your primary/current distro. -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
[PLUG] Swap Pre-Fetching
Few days back there was some discussion about prefetching in kernel 2.6 Here is a discussion reagrding same context, hopefully helpful :) http://kerneltrap.org/node/5619 -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin Check my blog at http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/ -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] DevelopGo
On 8/29/05, A G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone tried this ? Feel free to post your comments on the blog or here on the mailing list. You can try the netinstall. I tried it, but in vain. But I think I know what the problem is. Currently I dont have the time to do rnd. But you definitly can try the netinstall. Have you downloaded the ISO image for DevelopGo ? This is supposed to be LiveCD, so why netinstall ? Downaloding the ISO requires $10 download account. Are you referring to OneBaseLinux free version ? -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [OT] Grab a free copy of Opera browser.
Grab a free copy of Opera browser they're celebrating 10th anniversary today by handing out registration keys today for one day only: I'm answering this email from 'Advt free' Opera :) Thanks. -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Five reasons not to use Linux
On 8/30/05, Anil Wadghule [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check the link http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS8124627492.html Pls comment on this! Funny article, I would say. -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [OT]Linux supports USB pen drive?
I want to know that wheather there is support in Linux for Pen drive. Most latest kernels support USB pen drive. I tried Ubuntu a while ago, and as soon as I connected the no-brand USB pen drive, there was a pop up (just like windows) showing the contents of the drive. Depending upon where you are buying it from, ask him if he'll take it back/replace it, if it doesn't work with Linux. (There are 90% chances that it will) BTW, my personal experience with X-tech pen drive (purchased more than 2 yrs ago) is that various Linux flavours have recognized and work with it. But at least two WinXP machines did not work with it (They recognized it as solid state disk device, but couldn't load appropriate drivers for it, hence no read-write from it) -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
[PLUG] DevelopGo
Hi, Last week I came across the review of this LiveCD. I've posted some of my views on my blog http://desipenguin.blogspot.com/2005/08/developgo-how-about-free-version.html Has anyone tried this ? Feel free to post your comments on the blog or here on the mailing list. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Need some help.
I have done a lot of installation for net based cyber cafe's before. As far as the cost is concerned you just need the pc's and the hub to be honest and also not to forget the cat5 cables that's it ! Have you considered setting up Linux Terminal server ? That could keep the costs of PCs down. You could avoid HDD altogether and go with diskless workstation. Read more at http://www.ltsp.org/documentation/index.php AFAIK, users in Cybercafe wouldn't save anything locally (May be floppy/USB Drives, but not to local HDD) You may be able to invest little more (better h/w) for server by saving costs on low end machines for workstations. As far as the distro is concerned you can pick anyone say FC4 which is good or mandrake or anything else. Also check http://pxes.sourceforge.net/ You could also let each machine boot with Knoppix or its variant. You can remaster it to your taste (Your cybercafe logo, your choice of programs etc) You just have to install the distro on each of the machines and just put the ip's and stuff nothin else is required to be done... What applications do you need to install ? OpenOffice (or MSWord Viewer) might be needed if users want to open MS Word document sent to them on their email. Same for xls/ppt files as attachments. How are you planning to upgrade the machines over the period of time ? LSTP or thinclient solution might be useful here. I would like to visit your cafe once it is inaugurated. Best of Luck !! -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Re: plug-mail Digest, Vol 22, Issue 16
Although I am not the moderator, I was present when the rules for moderation were setup. Only the mails which have: 1. Improper format (not plain txt) 2. Words like Win$ or MS$ are caught by filters. The rest of the mails are not even blocked for moderation. I was under impression that it is manually moderated. Mailing list that I used to administer locally, was moderated this way. I used to get notification for every incoming mail, and if I (as admin) allow it, it use to go to everyone who subscribed. Off course traffic was relatively low. (compared to PLUG) I guess with traffic like PLUG, manual administration is a huge overhead, if there is only single admin. May be multiple admins could share the load, if at all it is manually administered for moderation of mails. Lastly, it is not the job of the admin to reformat mails, so ... please understand. Got it. I didn't expect the admins to do that anyway. About my original statement, Now I understand the logic behind bottom-posting (and why top-posting should be avoided) -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Re: plug-mail Digest, Vol 22, Issue 16
On 8/11/05, Gurudatta Raut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: READ BETWEEN LINES THANKS , NOW I KNOW THE MEANING OF RTFM, I think PLUG WHERE THE HELL IS THE F**KING PLUG RTFM. THE RTFM that thoes SO called EXPERTs ask me to read. THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE TIME TO UPGRADE BUDDY. Please read following links, especially about using all capital letters. http://www.portnet.k12.ny.us/port2000/e_mail.htm http://www.learnthenet.com/english/html/65mailet.htm I wonder how come the posts like these (e.g F**KING) gets the approval while genuine message with valid point get rejected only for the sole reason of incorrect formatting. Where are moderators when you need them ? Too busy ensuring freedom of expression, perhaps :) -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG][OT] BSNL revised plans
No I meant all my data transfers up or down (ISOs, streaming, whatever), when I said downloads... won't there be a problem like My solution obviously is meant for downloads only, not streaming data. On hidesight, it might work with windows only (Not sure how sophisticated download managers on linux are) you need to log out and log back in (or turn off and on your modem) between 2am and 8am else BSNL wont consider it as you NU usage? I'm not sure I understand this. scheduler thing... but got to be careful that BSNL doesnt consider just the modem being powered-on to mean that you're connected then I would have to be awake to power it on/off 8-) Not sure I completely understand this, but from what I understand, you are billed *only* for 'extra' downloads. If your modem is *only* powered on, but no packets are being exchanged (coz you are sleeping, computer is waiting to start scheduled download) how will that be a problem , even if BSNL considers you as 'connected' ? Does the modem/computer keep sending packets just to keep the connection alive ? Even if it does, how much would that amount to ? (considering that you are going to get a *lot* of data 'free-of-charge' between 2-8AM ? -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin (http://www.unc.edu/depts/jomc/academics/dri/idog.html) -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] 2 suggestions PLUG
On 8/11/05, Swapnil Nagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that messages get rejected just because the reply starts at the top rather than *after* the original post (which in itself is ridiculous rule, but I respect it none-the-less) Why is it ridiculous ? because most standard mail clients, like outlook as well as gmail, start the editing on top of the original email. because people start writing and reading from top to bottom. One has to *remember* to scroll down and start the reply. I know people who decided it is *not* worth their time on mailing list which will *not* moderate name calling (as original poster had mentioned), but will reject mails based on (incorrect) formatting. I think we might be loosing (possiblly technically) good people's help due to 'ridiculous' rules. I also said that although I personally don't like the rule, I'm abiding by it. BTW, I didn't mean the rule is ridiculous, but the fact that message gets rejected, is ridiculous. Are you moderator , who made this rule ? Are you taking this personally ? Coz if you are, please don't. My suggestion was only in the best interest of the entire PLUG community. Instead of asking point blank why is it ridiculous it would have helped to give your points why it is NOT ridiculous I think this is what original poster was implying, lack of maturity/holier-than-thou approach of the (few, but very vocal) pluggies. I can guess why this rule might have been put in place, i guess that for people who read mail archives, it makes sense to read the context first and *then* the reply, but I'm guessing that that number would be fewer than regular members who have read the original query already. -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin (http://www.unc.edu/depts/jomc/academics/dri/idog.html) -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] 2 suggestions PLUG
If this LUG was helpful I would have been one of the 1st person to ask help for the demo. But the attitude of these so-called gurus is a big turn off. I got a similar feedback from my colleauges who have also subscribed to this mailing list. I'm sure *all* of members are not like thse, but whatever small number of people who think of themselves as 1337 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet) give rest of the pluggies a bad name. I have a suggestion, see if it makes sense: Since the mailing list is moderated, why don't we reject the mails which don't really contribute but just ridicule ? I know that messages get rejected just because the reply starts at the top rather than *after* the original post (which in itself is ridiculous rule, but I respect it none-the-less) I'm not sure how many admin(s) this mailing list have or whether it is single person. But my suggestion will work only if admin(s) agrees to this suggestion (and not reject this message itself ...hehe...) -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG][OT] BSNL revised plans
for the 384k and say 5GB for 256k (Rs700) plan, so I dont have to stay awake till 2am and wake up again before 8am? boohoo :-( When you say you can download 30GB odd, I'm assuming that you are planning to download files, music, movies, ISO etc and not streaming data, normal browsing ... If the assumption is true there are ways to download stuff without you being awake at odd hours. 1. Get UPS/Ensure power doesn't go out at night. 2. Get download managers like Free Download Manager (http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/ ) which allow scheduled download. 3. Before going to bed, schedule big downloads 4. Switch off only the monitor. 5. Go to bed 6. Wake up at whatever time you do and find that your downloads are complete *AND* you are NOT billed for that :) Enjoy !!! -DP -- On the internet, no one knows you are a penguin (http://www.unc.edu/depts/jomc/academics/dri/idog.html) -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] 2 suggestions PLUG members
When I was in US, I was member of local LUG (That was almost 5 yrs ago) There we conducted couple of installfests. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Installfest) It was nice to help people to install various distributions, and work closely with fellow LUG members. This could be good PR for PLUG, we can get corporate sponsors if need be. Has something like this been done/planned for PLUG ? Do you thing the idea has a merit ? -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Please tell us total cost of BSNL BroadBand
On 8/10/05, Gurudatta Raut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also tell speed and cable used for BSNL has announced revised tariff effective Aug 16 Check http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2005/08/10/stories/2005081002100400.htm Or Search google news for bsnl tariff cut BSNL Website still not updated. :( -DP -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
