Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
A user pointed out that playlists referencing Deezer tracks or on Deezer
itself were causing errors, The offending code was the part checking if
the playlist exists but is empty, which LMS does not seem to like for
external tracks: :confused:
Code:
{ "id": "1", "method": "slim.request", "params": [0, ["playlists", "tracks",
0, 1, "playlist_id:" + id]] }
That's now wrapped in a try/catch so won't cause errors any more. It has
been verified that Deezer playlists now work with the skill.
Thanks to Chris M. for uncovering this issue.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
Shozzer wrote: > Thanks for your reply. I have also had the you have no works by > message as well. So I shouldn't waste time in tweaking my Artist / Album > Artist tags then but focusing on the album names? > > What is the correct response to I need the name of the artist? > > Steve If you get that it means that the album name or title didn't match uniquely or not at all. If there are just a handful of matches you get to see them on the Echo screen and tap the one you want. Otherwise there were too many matches or none at all. Ask to play the album "greatest hits" and you will always be asked by what artist because you will have a zillion hits. Ask to play DSOTM and you will not be asked because you may have 3 variants of it but they will all be by Floyd. It can actually be helpful to practice-search by typing in the LMS skin and see what kind of matches you get for certain phrases. Any unique matches would tend to not have Alexa ask for the name of the artist. But that can be really tricky with classical where you have so much info in the title. In general with Alexa, pacing is important. Any humming and hawing and she assumes you've finished speaking and will take what she heard already. I tend to stop and formulate what I want clearly in my mind before starting to blurt something out that needs correcting. That really helps. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
Thanks for your reply. I have also had the you have no works by message as well. So I shouldn't waste time in tweaking my Artist / Album Artist tags then but focusing on the album names? What is the correct response to I need the name of the artist? Steve philchillbill wrote: > The issue with classical music is that there are no standardised tag > schemes for all the details so people usually invent their own. > MediaServer just works with AlbumArtist/Band, TrackArtist/Artist, Album, > Title, Genre and Year as tags. Amazon has a long list of 'known' artists > to match against when you say something to Alexa, but not for classical > artists. Alexa doesn't really 'hear' you without context. If you ask her > to tell you a lightbulb joke, she first hears joke and then matches > lightbulb against her joke categories. So there is context. Same with > music. When you ask her to play an album by XXX, from the context of > play combined with album she goes, aha, the XXX must be an artist so > let's check my known-artist list. That list is unfortunately very > unsuited to classical music. The "MediaServer can't help you with that" > is indicative of her not even recognising your artist as being in the > Amazon-curated artist category, otherwise you would have been told "you > have no works by XXX" which is a different message that I generate based > on matching against your library. > > So I'm not sure Alexa will ever bring joy to classical lovers, whether > via this skill or otherwise. I'd say your best bet is to tag your albums > so that the match can occur without needing the artist name. The skill > itself uses fuzzy matching, but it can only match against what LMS > returns and LMS unfortunately does not do fuzzy or metaphonic matching. Shozzer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58726 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
Shozzer wrote: > Hi > > Curtesy of Black Friday I took the plunge and purchased a couple of > Echos (Studio and Dot). I set up the system before the devices arrived > and carried out some testing via the Alex App. This helped to introduce > me to the process but there are some limitations. > > I have activated both devices and am practicing both playing and > streaming with pretty good results. I think there are definite > possibilities for Mrs Shozzer who hasn't really engaged with LMS > although she will need some coaching. I am considering purchasing an > Echo Show for Christmas. > > I have a fair amount of classical music which present its own > challenges. Often there are multiple artists. Sometimes the album can be > identified just by name but sometimes an artist name is required. A > frequent response is, I need the name of the artist and she pauses for > a response. When you tell her the name of the artist she says Media > Server can't help you with that - try a valid command or say exit. > > Sometimes she will tell me that I don't have an album by a specified > artist but I do with another artist and do I want to play that? That > then works but this is not consistent. > > Any suggestions for the above? I suspect that it will need to some tag > updating on my part to make things easier. > > The more fluent one gets the easier I suspect it becomes. > > Steve The issue with classical music is that there are no standardised tag schemes for all the details so people usually invent their own. MediaServer just works with AlbumArtist/Band, TrackArtist/Artist, Album, Title, Genre and Year as tags. Amazon has a long list of 'known' artists to match against when you say something to Alexa, but not for classical artists. Alexa doesn't really 'hear' you without context. If you ask her to tell you a lightbulb joke, she first hears joke and then matches lightbulb against her joke categories. So there is context. Same with music. When you ask her to play an album by XXX, from the context of play combined with album she goes, aha, the XXX must be an artist so let's check my known-artist list. That list is unfortunately very unsuited to classical music. The "MediaServer can't help you with that" is indicative of her not even recognising your artist as being in the Amazon-curated artist category, otherwise you would have been told "you have no works by XXX" which is a different message that I generate based on matching against your library. So I'm not sure Alexa will ever bring joy to classical lovers, whether via this skill or otherwise. I'd say your best bet is to tag your albums so that the match can occur without needing the artist name. The skill itself uses fuzzy matching, but it can only match against what LMS returns and LMS unfortunately does not do fuzzy or metaphonic matching. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
Hi Curtesy of Black Friday I took the plunge and purchased a couple of Echos (Studio and Dot). I set up the system before the devices arrived and carried out some testing via the Alex App. This helped to introduce me to the process but there are some limitations. I have activated both devices and am practicing both playing and streaming with pretty good results. I think there are definite possibilities for Mrs Shozzer who hasn't really engaged with LMS although she will need some coaching. I am considering purchasing an Echo Show for Christmas. I have a fair amount of classical music which present its own challenges. Often there are multiple artists. Sometimes the album can be identified just by name but sometimes an artist name is required. A frequent response is, I need the name of the artist and she pauses for a response. When you tell her the name of the artist she says Media Server can't help you with that - try a valid command or say exit. Sometimes she will tell me that I don't have an album by a specified artist but I do with another artist and do I want to play that? That then works but this is not consistent. Any suggestions for the above? I suspect that it will need to some tag updating on my part to make things easier. The more fluent one gets the easier I suspect it becomes. Steve Shozzer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58726 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
pprjack wrote: > This is all fine and good but, what I REALLY want is some way to see an > Echo Speaker Group (a pair of Echos and an Echo Sub) available as a > player from the idle LMS Server UI or mobile app and initiate a > listening session from there. > I still find the process of initiating a listening session verbally very > awkward and cumbersome. I would like to initiate the session from the > server interface or mobile app and play LMS content to that Echo speaker > group. > Alexa NEVER understands what I tell her to do and when it comes to > addressing a 'Speaker Group', fugetaboutit! > Is there a way to do this that I have over looked? Am I missing > something? Afraid Amazon simply does not allow this. A skill is different from a music service like Spotify or Amazon Music or TuneIn. They can do things that a skill simply cannot. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
This is all fine and good but, what I REALLY want is some way to see an Echo Speaker Group (a pair of Echos and an Echo Sub) available as a player from the idle LMS Server UI or mobile app and initiate a listening session from there. I still find the process of initiating a listening session verbally very awkward and cumbersome. I would like to initiate the session from the server interface or mobile app and play LMS content to that Echo speaker group. Alexa NEVER understands what I tell her to do and when it comes to addressing a 'Speaker Group', fugetaboutit! Is there a way to do this that I have over looked? Am I missing something? pprjack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65730 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
smarties wrote: > Hmmm.. I can't remember to be honest, but I don't -think- I did. > Obviously I would have changed the LMS IP in the ngrok config file at > the time but there wouldn't have been a reason for me to change the > password. Maybe I did a full reinstall & setup though, and got my > password manager to generate a new one. Not sure. > > For what it's worth I just remembered it was around the time of your 6.0 > release - note I'm also using the LMS-lite skill so that I can use > routines to turn on players & queue up favourites) - might be relevant ? The changes that broke things for you went live on Feb 16th so maybe it was just that and not a password change if your kids didnt let you know at the time. Anyway, its fixed now so thanks for uncovering this corner case bug. Real users always break software in ways the authors cannot imagine! philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
philchillbill wrote: > Good to hear. I'd hazard a guess that you changed your password and > started including the illegal character at the same time you switched > routers? Otherwise there's no logical explanation for why it used to > work but suddenly stopped. Hmmm.. I can't remember to be honest, but I don't -think- I did. Obviously I would have changed the LMS IP in the ngrok config file at the time but there wouldn't have been a reason for me to change the password. Maybe I did a full reinstall & setup though, and got my password manager to generate a new one. Not sure. For what it's worth I just remembered it was around the time of your 6.0 release - note I'm also using the LMS-lite skill so that I can use routines to turn on players & queue up favourites) - might be relevant ? smarties's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72742 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
smarties wrote: > Bingo ! It works again :D Fantastic - many thanks for your help. > > (and yes the password did have one of those characters in it) > > Great stuff - I have 2 very happy kids in the house again ! > > Thanks again! Good to hear. I'd hazard a guess that you changed your password and started including the illegal character at the same time you switched routers? Otherwise there's no logical explanation for why it used to work but suddenly stopped. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
philchillbill wrote: > EDIT: I've added url-encoding to the so streaming may work > for you now as-is. Bingo ! It works again :D Fantastic - many thanks for your help. (and yes the password did have one of those characters in it) Great stuff - I have 2 very happy kids in the house again ! Thanks again! smarties's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72742 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
smarties wrote: > Could be related, but playing directly from Amazon music or BBC radio > works fine on the echos so I'm not sure its exactly same problem. > > I've tried de-registering and re-registering the echo too, and that made > no difference. > > It's a bit weird how the echo player never appears as a player in the > front end, in my case it only appears on the Settings - Information > screen with the same IP as the LMS server itself (as a Web Client) - is > that expected ? > > When I access the stream.mp3 endpoint from a browser on my laptop - the > laptop appears as a player in LMS with the laptop IP - hence the > question > > Can you also advise what the UUID is used for in the set up process ? > I'm using the the one that appears on the echo spot screen when I ask it > to discover my players (the ngrok-updater.sh script succeeds fine with > that UUID but I'm still curious if it is relevant) Just thought of something: A while back I was asked by a user with an odd setup (he did not have credentials on his non-ngrok proxy but did have credentials on his LMS instead) if I could pass the credentials through in the stream-URL which seemed harmless at the time. These then end up in the path to the /stream.mp3 endpoint but are ignored if LMS has no credential enabled: http://username:password@192.168.1.2:9000/stream.mp3?player=Alexa-x However, if you have any of the characters : @ / = ? in your username or password, it would mess up streaming. If that's the case for you, remove the offending character and re-try. If that was the issue then I'll have a think how I could get around the issue by perhaps urlencoding (not sure if LMS would accept URL encoded credentials for him). Regarding the uuid, I don't want to store people's privacy-sensitive data so you don;t have an account/login with my back-end (smartskills.tech). Instead, I recognise users anonymously by assigning a uuid to them. You actually store the uuid, not me. It's kept in your browser's localStorage database which normally survives clearing your browser cache. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
philchillbill wrote: > See > https://www.amazonforum.com/s/question/0D54P6zSqxtSAC/echo-will-reply-to-command-but-wont-play-music > for proof youre not alone with this. I had it myself on one of my Echo > Dots but not on other Dots or on my Shows. Methinks its a firmware bug > that is triggered from time to time due to who knows what. > Could be related, but playing directly from Amazon music or BBC radio works fine on the echos so I'm not sure its exactly same problem. I've tried de-registering and re-registering the echo too, and that made no difference. It's a bit weird how the echo player never appears as a player in the front end, in my case it only appears on the Settings - Information screen with the same IP as the LMS server itself (as a Web Client) - is that expected ? When I access the stream.mp3 endpoint from a browser on my laptop - the laptop appears as a player in LMS with the laptop IP - hence the question Can you also advise what the UUID is used for in the set up process ? I'm using the the one that appears on the echo spot screen when I ask it to discover my players (the ngrok-updater.sh script succeeds fine with that UUID but I'm still curious if it is relevant) smarties's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72742 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
smarties wrote: > Yep that's the correct IP and Port > > And no luck with switching device language to US - everything works > except streaming. See https://www.amazonforum.com/s/question/0D54P6zSqxtSAC/echo-will-reply-to-command-but-wont-play-music for proof youre not alone with this. I had it myself on one of my Echo Dots but not on other Dots or on my Shows. Methinks its a firmware bug that is triggered from time to time due to who knows what. All the skill does for streaming is start up the /stream.mp3 stream in LMS and tell the Echo how to grab it within your LAN. Then the skill exits and its up to your Echo to actually play the stream. As you said, you hear music when you visit /stream.mp3 in a browser so you know thats working. Conclusion is that the Echo is rejecting the stream due to an Echo bug. Sorry I cannot fix anything on my end. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
philchillbill wrote: > > > People randomly get this (very sporadically) when an AWS server > allocated to their Alexa account has a different patch-level to the > norm. Try setting your device language for one of the Echos (in the > Alexa app) to something other than en-GB (for example, en-US) and see if > you can stream then. If so, switch back and see if it stays good. > > Just to check, the skill thinks your LMS is at 192.168.0.160:9000. Is > that correct for your LMS? Yep that's the correct IP and Port And no luck with switching device language to US - everything works except streaming. smarties's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72742 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
smarties wrote:
> Thanks for the quick response - no luck with that I'm afraid. Discovery
> only finds my regular players (squeezelite based), not any of my echos.
>
> I've tried disabling and re-enabling the skill and gone through set up
> again but no luck with that either.
>
> Anything else I could try ?
Discovery never mentions your AlexaPlayers as they are ephemeral
they're just network clients that get created and destroyed on the fly
when needed. In the skill's logs, I can see you are getting
Code:
"request": {
"type": "AudioPlayer.PlaybackFailed",
"requestId": "amzn1.echo-api.request.d68a6a76-d3b0-4a02-ad89-5735dce927f4",
"timestamp": "2022-04-16T17:23:50Z",
"locale": "en-GB",
"currentPlaybackState": {
"playerActivity": "STOPPED"
},
"error": {
"message": "Device playback error",
"type": "MEDIA_ERROR_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE"
},
"token": "1650129829508"
}
People randomly get this (very sporadically) when an AWS server
allocated to their Alexa account has a different patch-level to the
norm. Try setting your device language for one of the Echos (in the
Alexa app) to something other than en-GB (for example, en-US) and see if
you can stream then. If so, switch back and see if it stays good.
Just to check, the skill thinks your LMS is at 192.168.0.160:9000. Is
that correct for your LMS?
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
philchillbill wrote: > Just say "Alexa, tell MediaServer to discover my players" and that will > not only refresh your player list but retrieve the current internal IP > address of your LMS. Then streaming should work again. Thanks for the quick response - no luck with that I'm afraid. Discovery only finds my regular players (squeezelite based), not any of my echos. I've tried disabling and re-enabling the skill and gone through set up again but no luck with that either. Anything else I could try ? smarties's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72742 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
smarties wrote: > > > I did change my router fairly recently which meant I had to change the > IP ranges of all my devices so that could be related but again as > everything else is working fine so I'm doubtful. > > I'll bet it relates to that change of internal IPs. The reason the regular commands all work is because they are using the external ngrok address for your setup, but streaming requires knowing your local LAN IP. That's saved by the skill when you first run it (or use the discover command). Just say "Alexa, tell MediaServer to discover my players" and that will not only refresh your player list but retrieve the current internal IP address of your LMS. Then streaming should work again. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
Hi, Need help. I'm using this skill to voice control my players and to stream music to the kids echos (Dots 3rd Gen, plus a Spot). It was working brilliantly until some point in the past month or so but now streaming has stopped working (the kids neglected to tell me at the time so I'm a little unsure as to when it last worked!). On the face of it the skill still seems to work - it responds to my commands, finds my music and seems to queue it up onto the echos ok, but then nothing happens - no sound. On my echo dot, the cover art of the music supposedly being played is shown but alas no music. Voice control over my regular players all works fine as before, so there is no problem with the skill as such, just streaming. I'm at a loss as to why - there doesn't seem to be anything in the server logs to indicate any problem. The behaviour is the same whether the source music is mp3 or flac so I don't think its a transcoding related. The :9000/stream.mp3 endpoint still works fine too. The only thing that now seems odd is that when you try and stream to an echo, the echo no longer shows up as a player in the front end (but oddly does appear in the Server -> Settings -> Players list with an IP address of the LMS server itself ?) I did change my router fairly recently which meant I had to change the IP ranges of all my devices so that could be related but again as everything else is working fine so I'm doubtful. Can you help ? (Happy to post server logs if you can't advise what to specifically look for) Many thanks smarties's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72742 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
Fixed a bug in the on-screen player controls where the repeat icon displayed instead of the shuffle icon. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
konrat wrote: > Hello, > > Can the skill be controlled by the LMS/Material App on an Android Phone? > I tried that. However there seems to be a buffer of nearly a minute or > so. A Pause command is executed 1 min late or so. > > Is there any other way to app-control playback on an Echo without > display? > > Thanks. If you are streaming to an Echo and change the playlist outside the skill, saying Alexa, resume will clear that buffer for you for immediate playback. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
Hello, Can the skill be controlled by the LMS/Material App on an Android Phone? I tried that. However there seems to be a buffer of nearly a minute or so. A Pause command is executed 1 min late or so. Is there any other way to app-control playback on an Echo without display? Thanks. konrat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
philchillbill wrote: > Maybe unlink the skill and re-link it from the same browser where you > did it the first time so it grabs your uuid. Amazon might have grabbed > your oauth token erroneously. Rarely happens but Ive seen it a handful > of times. Thanks seem to have sorted... found the media server on the cloud but no players - turn on my Squeezebox Radio and am listening to music - will now try and get it working via echo's :-) Thanks again for your very quick response. :D bobefax's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72618 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
bobefax wrote: > Hi > > Have installed via the installer on the mediaserver.smartskills.tech > site - all simple enough to follow and using powershell on windows to > install with ngrog - worked fine. > > Have linked the skill via amazon and again straight forward to do. > > Using with Echo dot - 2nd / 3rd gen can connect to the media server - > but when I ask Alexa to tell media server x to do anything I get > > -you need need to take action ngrog reports a 401 authorization failure > it might be a temporary service glitch you can try again later if you > deliberately changed your credentials relink the skill- > > > Can bring up the ngrog status - all good and looks fine via > //localhost:4040/status > and the skill looks to be still enabled under Amazon. > > Apologies if this was covered somewhere - but I couldn't find it. > > Thanks > > Bob Maybe unlink the skill and re-link it from the same browser where you did it the first time so it grabs your uuid. Amazon might have grabbed your oauth token erroneously. Rarely happens but Ive seen it a handful of times. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
Hi Have installed via the installer on the mediaserver.smartskills.tech site - all simple enough to follow and using powershell on windows to install with ngrog - worked fine. Have linked the skill via amazon and again straight forward to do. Using with Echo dot - 2nd / 3rd gen can connect to the media server - but when I ask Alexa to tell media server x to do anything I get -you need need to take action ngrog reports a 401 authorization failure it might be a temporary service glitch you can try again later if you deliberately changed your credentials relink the skill- Can bring up the ngrog status - all good and looks fine via //localhost:4040/status and the skill looks to be still enabled under Amazon. Apologies if this was covered somewhere - but I couldn't find it. Thanks Bob bobefax's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72618 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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The APL player-controls received a facelift. @staresy pointed out that the badges for the repeat/shuffle buttons were being cropped on the Echo Show 5. There was a bug in the APL simulator that was hiding this for me and I could not verify on a real device, but the simulator has been updated and now I could see the problem. The badges are now positioned at the top where they won't crop, and the 'Player Controls' text has been removed to allow the whole frame to be less tall. It also now has a border. Let me know if any further tweaks are needed on real devices, but it looks better now on all my physical devices and in the simulator on the ones I don't physically have. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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It's probably my odd setup, Android app does the same - a 172.22.0.x address and nothing. Next time someone with an Apple device visits I'll have a play there too :) Peter Galbavy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Peter Galbavy wrote: > Another minor one, probably mentioned in the long thread somewhere, but > just for fun I tried the Alexa Windows app as a player and it doesn't > work - but this is probably because it uses some off-net proxy (the > private address space that I do not use is a good clue) of it's own, as > seen in the IPs below (the bottom player is one of the Echo Show 15s): > > I doubt this is fixable, and if not already probably worth mentioning in > the docs. 37243 I have not tried it in the Windows app but it -does- work in the Alexa app on the *iPhone* (see screenshot). Likely on Android too but I cannot verify. But that's all down to how Amazon proxies their stuff and is not on me. So no idea why Windows is different. By the look of the AirPlay logo, it would seem that you can even cast it from the phone to an AirPlay speaker but I have none at hand to test :cool: If you start a stream while on WiFi and then switch to 4G it continues ad infinitum. That surprises me TBH. However, if you try and start it while on 4G it says it is going to play but then there is silence. If you stop a stream and later ask Alexa "tell MediaServer to resume" it will continue if the iPhone on WiFi but not on 4G (I then see PlaybackFailed in the logs with as reason "MEDIA_ERROR_INTERNAL_SERVER_ERROR"). +---+ |Filename: WhatsApp Image 2022-02-17 at 12.54.35.jpeg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37243| +---+ philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
Another minor one, probably mentioned in the long thread somewhere, but just for fun I tried the Alexa Windows app as a player and it doesn't work - but this is probably because it uses some off-net proxy (the private address space that I do not use is a good clue) of it's own, as seen in the IPs below (the bottom player is one of the Echo Show 15s): 37241 I doubt this is fixable, and if not already probably worth mentioning in the docs. +---+ |Filename: Screenshot 2022-02-17 075828.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37241| +---+ Peter Galbavy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
philchillbill wrote: > Amazon has freshly certified *V6.0* of MediaServer. Many thanks for the new commands (early/recent/from/display), they are working well. The early/recent is very useful with a large collection by a particular artist and makes quick shuffled playback far easier than using a standard touch control interface (as does play by year). Good work! location 1: lms 8.3 on win 10 brix server, x3 sb radios, x1 touch, x1 controller : location 2: lms 8.3 on win 10 brix server, x2 sb radios, x1 duet receiver, x1 controller : alexa mediaserver smart skill, material android, squeezelitex control staresy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=807 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Peter Galbavy wrote: > It works! Thanks you. Take my money - literally. New subscriber now > happy :) > > One more feature request for "one day" - The Echo Show 15 can be mounted > in portrait mode and the normal display looked quite squashed in > landscape. I am sure there is also some value to looking at "widgets" > for the future too. Glad to oblige. Who knows, it may prove useful to others :) I can play around with the Echo Show 15 layout in the APL web-simulator but the documentation on widgets is totally useless so no idea how to implement them. Over the years, I've suggested dozens of improvements to the Amazon docs when I finally figure something out, but in the case of widgets the baseline is not good enough to get me even started. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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It works! Thanks you. Take my money - literally. New subscriber now happy :) One more feature request for "one day" - The Echo Show 15 can be mounted in portrait mode and the normal display looked quite squashed in landscape. I am sure there is also some value to looking at "widgets" for the future too. Peter Galbavy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
Peter Galbavy wrote: > Yeah, the Basic auth details for the proxy, when it doesn't need it, > just drops through in the headers to the native HTTP interface and hence > the UI works for me. > > In my case using a 3rd party proxy would still NOT work as I am not > removing LMS password protection. I have "real" players outside my home > and they cannot support HTTPS anyway, so the most basic clear text auth > is better than none. The username / password are not shared with any > other platform I use so it doesn't matter if they are intercepted - > someone can potentially screw up my LMS configs but that's about it, > although there will be holes in the server or plugins for the > determined. > > I am going to see if I can using nginx to proxy with hardwired auth to > /stream.mp3 or see if LMS can somehow unprotect just that endpoint as a > test hack - but the former would not work for your skill I assum as the > endpoint is derived from the LMS servers own knowledge of it's IP and > fixed port and so can't be redirected to a munging proxy solution :) > > One potential simplification, if you are willing to change your code, is > to pass the *same* auth details as for the proxy in the URL in the > playlist, like you show, which would have no effect on an unprotected > endpoint but could act as a workaround for those like me (sample size > obviously one for now) that want to support a Frankenstein like hybrid > environment. I didn't know that LMS would just ignore basic auth parameters if they were not enabled :D. That indeed makes it harmless to embed the credentials in the PLS file for streaming. I've just tested that and it worked no problem so I've pushed it live. Let me know if it now works for you. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
Yeah, the Basic auth details for the proxy, when it doesn't need it, just drops through in the headers to the native HTTP interface and hence the UI works for me. In my case using a 3rd party proxy would still NOT work as I am not removing LMS password protection. I have "real" players outside my home and they cannot support HTTPS anyway, so the most basic clear text auth is better than none. The username / password are not shared with any other platform I use so it doesn't matter if they are intercepted - someone can potentially screw up my LMS configs but that's about it, although there will be holes in the server or plugins for the determined. I am going to see if I can using nginx to proxy with hardwired auth to /stream.mp3 or see if LMS can somehow unprotect just that endpoint as a test hack - but the former would not work for your skill I assum as the endpoint is derived from the LMS servers own knowledge of it's IP and fixed port and so can't be redirected to a munging proxy solution :) One potential simplification, if you are willing to change your code, is to pass the *same* auth details as for the proxy in the URL in the playlist, like you show, which would have no effect on an unprotected endpoint but could act as a workaround for those like me (sample size obviously one for now) that want to support a Frankenstein like hybrid environment. Peter Galbavy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
Peter Galbavy wrote: > Because I enable password security on all my LMS instances by default? > This is in fact what I use to protect my test proxy for your skills in > testing - I don't have proxy passwords, instead using the user and > password in LMS in the config and it works for everything except > streaming. > > I do also access my LMS from outside my home, and it is password > protected without a proxy dance - even if it's not HTTPS protected out > of the box - players don't understand HTTPS. > > Another use of a protected stream endpoint would be if my LMS instance > were not on the local LAN of the Echo device, e.g. hosted in the fluffy > cloud on a VM, for example. If you use either ngrok or a reverse-proxy like apache or nginx, they all do the https-to-http translation for you it does not then matter that LMS cannot support https natively. That's the whole idea behind my approach to remote-access to LMS from the cloud. Remember, if you are not using https, your auth credentials are going as plain text and can be easily intercepted... The way account-linking the skill currently works, your auth parameters for the proxy are specified you cannot specify any native LMS credentials. The Echo 'thinks' it's playing a https stream but that https endpoint (in my back-end) actually just sends it a PLS file which contains the /stream.mp3 endpoint spec as the only item in the playlist (Paul Webster's wonderful invention). If local-LMS credentials were to be included in that PLS file, they'd have to be embedded using the h t t p://username:password@192.168.1.10:9000/stream.mp3?player=Alexa-X construct. I don't honestly know if that would even work. But, importantly, I'd have to extend the account-linking form with 2 extra fields to specify those basic-auth parameters and that's complicating it a lot for most people. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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philchillbill wrote: > The reason that the Stream commands are now free has to do with all the > APL stuff recently added to MediaServer for the visuals. Handling that > is way heavier on my back-end than streaming, so it no longer makes > sense to see streaming as 'premium'. I also genuinely believe that a > device like the Echo Show 8 gen 2 is an affordable 2022 alternative to > the Squeezebox Radio. It sounds -really- good for its size and has a > gorgeous full-HD 8" touchscreen to boot. Maybe now people will discover > this for themselves... Yup! It's what I've been trying :) I am suitably impressed with the Echo Show 8 /2 sound quality. Peter Galbavy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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philchillbill wrote: > No, the http stream has to be unprotected. It is, after all, inside your > LAN. Why would you want LMS to be password-protected for local use? Because I enable password security on all my LMS instances by default? This is in fact what I use to protect my test proxy for your skills in testing - I don't have proxy passwords, instead using the user and password in LMS in the config and it works for everything except streaming. I do also access my LMS from outside my home, and it is password protected without a proxy dance - even if it's not HTTPS protected out of the box - players don't understand HTTPS. Another use of a protected stream endpoint would be if my LMS instance were not on the local LAN of the Echo device, e.g. hosted in the fluffy cloud on a VM, for example. Peter Galbavy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Paul Webster wrote: > Just tried to stream to an Echo Dot (2nd Gen I think) and it worked. > But . after about 10 minutes of playing the Dot showed a brief yellow > ring and, I think, rebooted itself! > > Ill try a few more times later today to see if repeatable. Yellow ring means the Echo lost WiFi connection. Probably just a fluke that it then rebooted. Very unlikely that the stream caused it. There are still plenty of bugs in the Echo firmware driving me mad :rolleyes: APL distorts badly on my Echo Show 10" gen 2 but is just fine on my Echo Show 8" gen 2 and on both my Echo Spots. @raglencross cannot get certain Echos to take a stream while others do it willingly. Sigh. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Just tried to stream to an Echo Dot (2nd Gen I think) and it worked. But . after about 10 minutes of playing the Dot showed a brief yellow ring and, I think, rebooted itself! Ill try a few more times later today to see if repeatable. Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
Amazon has freshly certified *V6.0* of MediaServer. Because there were changes to the voice-model, the Alexa app will reflect it as updated this time round. As always, you don't need to do anything for access you invariably run the latest version whenever you invoke the skill. - All *Stream* commands are now *free* to use -without- subscription. Yaay! This is also true for the *Sleep* commands. The number of intents is now 129, with 94 available without subscription. - It's now available in *Canada* from Amazon.ca. Finally! :rolleyes: - There are 7 new intents: - Play/stream *early* Aretha Franklin. - Play/stream *recent* David Gilmour. - Play/stream songs *from* 1976. - When an APL list item (image or text) is displayed on screen: e.g. *Third* (to select the item by ordinal rather than by name or touch). - The *short* response mode has been removed as nobody ever used it and it needed active maintaining. The early/recent concept builds a mathematical *set* from all the declared years in an artist's oeuvre (based on the -year- tag). This is sorted and chopped down the middle, whereby -early- then refers to the first half and -recent- selects the second half. The skill performs its own Fisher-Yates shuffle on the resultant tracklist and sends it to LMS as an array of track_id's (limited to 500 entries). Meaning that the list should be different each time you call it for the same artist. Note that if your albums are populated with tags reflecting the year associated with e.g. recent remasterings or greatest-hits releases (rather than the year of original release), you may find that e.g. Waterloo by ABBA is showing up under recent rather than early. Remember, the year tag holds whatever -you- put in it. :p Thanks to @staresy for suggesting these commands. The play/stream-songs-from-year intent uses ['playlist', 'loadtracks', 'track.year=' + year] under the hood, meaning that any shuffling has to be done by LMS itself. If you are on a recent 8.3 then LMS will automatically shuffle this list regardless of the player's settings. If on an earlier LMS version then you will always get exactly the same list of songs in the same order, unless the player in question has shuffle enabled. The reason that the Stream commands are now free has to do with all the APL stuff recently added to MediaServer for the visuals. Handling that is way heavier on my back-end than streaming, so it no longer makes sense to see streaming as 'premium'. I also genuinely believe that a device like the Echo Show gen 2 is an affordable 2022 alternative to the Squeezebox Radio. It sounds -really- good for its size and has a gorgeous full-HD 8" touchscreen to boot. Maybe now people will discover this for themselves... philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
Peter Galbavy wrote: > . > > Can Media Server LAN access to /stream.mp3 work with security enabled on > the server? No, the http stream has to be unprotected. It is, after all, inside your LAN. Why would you want LMS to be password-protected for local use? philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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philchillbill wrote:
> That would indicate that the Echo didn't see a valid audio stream at the
> address that LMS resolves to in your LAN.
>
> The normal 'Play' commands just instruct LMS to talk to your players and
> feed them as LMS does. The 'Stream' commands are different by necessity
> because the Echo needs to be fed with a stream *from a URL*, much like
> internet radio. LMS is told to start up a /stream.mp3 network client and
> then the Echo is pointed at that stream locally within your LAN. That
> last part must be failing due to your proxy/docker setup. The
> /stream.mp3 endpoint has to be unprotected and reachable over http
> without basic auth in your LAN for it to work.
>
> Can you share any details of your proxy or docker config? Any reason you
> didn't go the ngrok route? Earlier, you got a bad-SSL cert error (EPROTO
> 140716538210176:error:1408F10B:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:wrong
> version number:../deps/openssl/openssl/ssl/record/ssl3_record.c:332) so
> it may also be that Amazon does not trust your proxy. You subsequently
> re-linked the skill without a port number in the https URL which
> silenced the error, but Amazon may still have issues with your proxy.
> Amazon has whitelisted ngrok which is why people who go that route never
> have issues like this.
I've returned to the UK and now have a couple of Echo Show 15s at home
and so have tried this again. I set up a new DNS cname and let my nginx
docker container get the Lets Encrypt cert for it. Player control now
works but streaming does not. I have also set up an nginx proxy for HTTP
to /stream.mp3 so it doesn't require SSL. My LMS is password protected
hpwever and /stream.mp3 expects a login as does the rest of the server.
Testing with curl (and not cached broswer sessions) proves this to me.
Can Media Server LAN access to /stream.mp3 work with security enabled on
the server?
For reference, the nginx config is below:
Code:
server {
listen 80;
server_name lms.example.com;
location /stream.mp3 {
proxy_pass http://ubuntu:9000/stream.mp3;
}
}
server {
listen 443 ssl;
# Domain names this server should respond to.
server_name lms.example.com;
# Load the certificate files.
ssl_certificate /etc/letsencrypt/live/lms.example.com/fullchain.pem;
ssl_certificate_key /etc/letsencrypt/live/lms.example.com/privkey.pem;
ssl_trusted_certificate /etc/letsencrypt/live/lms.example.com/chain.pem;
# Load the Diffie-Hellman parameter.
ssl_dhparam /etc/letsencrypt/dhparams/dhparam.pem;
location / {
proxy_pass http://ubuntu:9000/;
}
}
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Based on @MrC's feedback (thanks!), the online setup instructions have been updated to (hopefully) be clearer :cool: philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Nice replies, thanks. To be clear again, no criticism is/was meant in my post. Just my feedback about the issues we faced. philchillbill wrote: > > In reality, what other credentials might even be relevant? See > https://mediaserver.smartskills.tech/ac-link-lms.html. It already says " > Type the username and password you previously chose in the > configurator". How could that be clearer? > I thought for a moment it might be my ngrok account, since I'd just created it, or my Amazon account, since the script was trying to authorize a skill. It just wasn't clear to me, after having gone through all the steps. It became clearer, after I thought about it, but I'm not sure everyone has sufficient technical background to understand this. There are three sets of credentials that could be perceived as possible in this process: the ngrok account which I'd just created, my amazon credentials, or some new tunnel credentials. Others have also indicated some confusion here too. For all I knew at the moment, the process might have been trying to connect to my ngrok account. Since the configurator says "ngrok authtoken", perhaps the username and password should also be as specific. The tooltips were helpful, but I didn't see those. "ngrok tunnel authtoken" "new ngrok tunnel username" "new ngrok tunnel password" philchillbill wrote: > > With LMS-lite, a mere "Alexa, favorite three on Kitchen" will play > favorite number 3 on your Kitchen player. That's just 5 words. > Oh, if only that was all that was required, it would not be an issue. But those 5 words are not sufficient. 1. Needed a Routine to combine Skill:Elan and Skill:LMS-Lite to turn on the Elan amp, and select a zone. I opted for a simple test: Alexa, Gumby. And that turned on Favorite 1 on Squeeze 2. 2. Needed a Routine to switch to another radio stream. Alexa Pokey. KQED now is playing. 3. Needed a Routine to switch off the Elan amp + Touch, so have to remember this verbiage. 4. Needed several Routines to change the volume up/down/mute - these call the Elan skill. I would opt for a Routine because nobody is going to remember (and hence would require cheat sheets) the idiosyncrasies of the syntax's for all these different skills, for each operation, esp. when kitchen timers are going off, audio is too loud, and there are time pressures. We have Alexa, skills and routines for Lutron, Elan, several other devices; MediaServer and LMS-Lite (each with their differences, and restrictions) had to many restrictions to natural language and expectations. 5. Needed to remember which favorites are located in which positions. Which one is in slot 3 again? I can't recall, so I'll open Material - ok #1. Heh, that's the wrong station! Ugh, the material vs default skin ordering issue. 6. Wife needs to remember when she's in her closet, or the master bath, to use Alexa's native language to play BBC World News. But in the kitchen, its, uh, Alexa, favorite three on Kitchen. And all the variants for changing stations, volume, stop/start/pause/rewind. And there are dozens of variations of these stop, pause, resume, go back, kind of commands throughout all the devices. Again, this is not a criticism. Its just commentary on our experience where the benchmark for success is the utterly simple Alexa, Play KQED, and Alexa Stop. philchillbill wrote: > > We cannot reduce it to just "Play BBC World News" > That's exactly why I opted for testing with a Routine Alexa Gumby. Easy. No thinking. We could test the limits of the possible efficiency, are test against that aforementioned benchmark. And this is the way we control most of our devices for routine operations. Alexa, TV time. Alexa Time for coffee. Alexa, Shower time. We've focused on tasks and scenes, not on individual commands, as we've found those to be too idiosyncratic and error prone. philchillbill wrote: > > The way Alexa works is that she hears what you say, decides on a skill > that can handle it, and passes the parameters to the skill. If the > commands were stripped from MediaServer but nevertheless spoken by the > user, Alexa would merely redirect to a different skill (or music > service) to process. So Amazon Music or TuneIn (as fallbacks) would be > reacting instead of MediaServer, but it would still be a mess. Fact is, > voice assistants (as you point out) need the user to remember pretty > exact syntax or it's game-over. > Yeah, I get it. Two things here that i was assuming might be possible: One: allow disabling the command, accept it, and just bonk when it was issued. But never show it in the list of Help. The idea being to reduce the noise that comes back when I want help. This would for us eliminate all the commands re: alarms, synchronizing, grouping, volume controls, bookmarks, transfers, sleep, power on/off, shuffle, repeat, list my players (we know them), rename, enable/disable artwork. That's a huge number reduced to the simple audio choices we'd
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
@chaug, I can see in the logs that your ARN is targeting US-East-1 (in North Virginia) while your locale is set to en-GB. This means your latency is quite high. I've had British expats in the US complain that Alexa often misunderstood them with this combo. You might fare better by setting your Amazon digital content to .co.uk (the online instructions now have an address/phone for that too) as this would get you hitting eu-West-1 in Dublin. You might also fare better if you set your language for the Echo(s) in question to en-US. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
chaug wrote:
> This morning I had major issues with getting the skill to shuffle play
> my playlist. There were three songs that produced just silence, two of
> which I noted down and later tried to play using stream.mp3 as described
> above. Both of them played in the web browser.
>
> I also checked the alexa voice history to see if that would explain some
> of the other failures. Turns out that in one case, she understood "tell
> me the server" instead of tell media server. Which is obviously pretty
> poor AI performance, given that she has a skill called "media server".
> In fact, I would claim that there is no AI involved here. It's just
> stupid to immediately fall back on the default answer "Here's something
> I found on the web..." I don't get why you wouldn't check against
> similar sounding skill names before coming up with a nonsense guess of
> what the user might have meant by "tell me the server".
>
> In another situation alexa just heard the wake word but not the
> following wake word. The only difference to the second time I said it
> was that the pause between "Alexa" and "next" was a tiny fraction of a
> second shorter. She simply doesn't seem to listen long enough after the
> key word. Half or even a quarter of a second more would probably solve a
> lot of issues. I noticed earlier that "Alexa, skip" works most of the
> time while "Alexa, next" doesn't. My explanation for this is now that
> the "s" in skip makes enough of a hissing sound to keep Alexa awake
> while the "n" in next doesn't. That's how tiny the difference is.
>
> The only thing I can do as a user here is try and ignore the Alexa ring
> light and just talk. What I mean is that I noticed a tendency in my
> family to say "Alexa", then wait for here to indicate that she's
> listening, and then give the command. As I noticed this kinda natural
> behaviour in others, I realised that I was also doing it, though to a
> lesser extent. I don't really like to train myself, though, to not wait
> for the light to go on. Firstly, because it means that I will have to
> repeat commands when it turns out that Alexa didn't wake up, but also
> because Alexa is already teaching us habits that are not good for human
> interaction (like not saying thank you when someone did something for
> you or ordering her to stop talking) so that I think it would be good to
> maintain the attitude of waiting for a response before starting the
> conversation.
>
> Nut apart from those concerns, I won't quite understand why the slight
> pause between the wake word and the command works without problems
> outside of the media server skill. It's only when MediaServer is active
> that this problem occurs. Do you as skill developer have control over
> the waiting period or is Amazon defining shorter in-skill periods?
>
>
>
> I will try simon says asap but I don't think that is the issue. The Echo
> dot that I've tested this most on is brand new and the same problem has
> occurred on at least one other echo dot.
>
>
>
> If "shuffled" is added at the end, isn't there a risk that it gets
> interpreted as part of the playlist name? Then again, always removing
> the last "shuffled" from the playlist name would probably work. So even
> if you had a playlist ending with "shuffled" saying playlist something
> shuffled shuffled would work. So, yea, that would be great have!
>
> Alternatively: how about "shuffleplay" and "shufflestream" as commands?
> i.e. "Alexa, tell mediaserver to shufflestream favourite 8" instead of
> "Alexa, tell mediaserver to stream favourite 8 shuffled"
Wow, "tell me the server" would be a first ! Amazon calls Alexa an AI,
but just so you know: in the voice model you have to have separate
entries for "what's playing" and "what is playing" because the AI cannot
even join those dots. :confused: I kid you not.
When you install a skill, a random Amazon server gets assigned to you.
It would appear that different servers may have different patch levels
or even be running different versions of the Alexa engine. Your
assigned server might have a tweaked version of something (outside my
control) that behaves oddly. We will never know. It's certainly not in
the hands of a skill developer to pace anything. Alexa hears, thinks for
a bit, and decides what to pass on to skills. I've often seen 'old'
console.log() statements in the skill logs that dated from a version of
my code that was changed weeks ago and should not be still 'live'.
Meaning some users were not running my latest code even though I updated
all URNs. Hmmm.
I can always strip the word 'shuffled' from the {Playlist} slot value,
so that's not an issue. Adding shuffleplay and shufflestream commands
would blow up the voice model and I'm already close to the limit of what
a skill is allowed to have. Personally, I do find a tiny pause between
Alexa and the command fares better (you can hear that in my videos) but
YMMV.
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
This morning I had major issues with getting the skill to shuffle play my playlist. There were three songs that produced just silence, two of which I noted down and later tried to play using stream.mp3 as described above. Both of them played in the web browser. I also checked the alexa voice history to see if that would explain some of the other failures. Turns out that in one case, she understood "tell me the server" instead of tell media server. Which is obviously pretty poor AI performance, given that she has a skill called "media server". In fact, I would claim that there is no AI involved here. It's just stupid to immediately fall back on the default answer "Here's something I found on the web..." I don't get why you wouldn't check against similar sounding skill names before coming up with a nonsense guess of what the user might have meant by "tell me the server". In another situation alexa just heard the wake word but not the following wake word. The only difference to the second time I said it was that the pause between "Alexa" and "next" was a tiny fraction of a second shorter. She simply doesn't seem to listen long enough after the key word. Half or even a quarter of a second more would probably solve a lot of issues. I noticed earlier that "Alexa, skip" works most of the time while "Alexa, next" doesn't. My explanation for this is now that the "s" in skip makes enough of a hissing sound to keep Alexa awake while the "n" in next doesn't. That's how tiny the difference is. The only thing I can do as a user here is try and ignore the Alexa ring light and just talk. What I mean is that I noticed a tendency in my family to say "Alexa", then wait for here to indicate that she's listening, and then give the command. As I noticed this kinda natural behaviour in others, I realised that I was also doing it, though to a lesser extent. I don't really like to train myself, though, to not wait for the light to go on. Firstly, because it means that I will have to repeat commands when it turns out that Alexa didn't wake up, but also because Alexa is already teaching us habits that are not good for human interaction (like not saying thank you when someone did something for you or ordering her to stop talking) so that I think it would be good to maintain the attitude of waiting for a response before starting the conversation. Nut apart from those concerns, I won't quite understand why the slight pause between the wake word and the command works without problems outside of the media server skill. It's only when MediaServer is active that this problem occurs. Do you as skill developer have control over the waiting period or is Amazon defining shorter in-skill periods? philchillbill wrote: > Of the 14 Echos I've owned over time, two had microphones go bad so > Alexa misinterpreted a lot of my commands (they were both 2nd generation > Echo Dots). That might be your issue too because I agree there's not > much can go wrong with just saying 2 words. You can try 'Simon Says' > with a longish sentence (she reads back what you say). For example, > "Alexa, Simon Says this is a test of the microphone in my device". If > the audio stutters, you know you have a hardware problem. > I will try simon says asap but I don't think that is the issue. The Echo dot that I've tested this most on is brand new and the same problem has occurred on at least one other echo dot. philchillbill wrote: > I might be able to add a 'shuffled' qualifier to the StreamPlaylist > command. That would have to be an an exact syntax where you'd say > 'stream the playlist -whatever- *shuffled*'. Not a natural flow of words > but it would work. I'll do all that after the current certification > submission passes because I can't touch the live skill at the moment or > risk rejection. Amazon normally certifies in 1-2 days but it's been over > a week already so they are apparently slow due to Covid understaffing. If "shuffled" is added at the end, isn't there a risk that it gets interpreted as part of the playlist name? Then again, always removing the last "shuffled" from the playlist name would probably work. So even if you had a playlist ending with "shuffled" saying playlist something shuffled shuffled would work. So, yea, that would be great have! Alternatively: how about "shuffleplay" and "shufflestream" as commands? i.e. "Alexa, tell mediaserver to shufflestream favourite 8" instead of "Alexa, tell mediaserver to stream favourite 8 shuffled" *Server*: LMS 8.1.1 on an Ubuntu 18.04 virtual machine *Players*: Radio, Touch, Duet (Receiver & Controller), 2 Booms *Remote control apps*: Material Skin (Web UI), but also SqueezePad (iOS), Squeezecontroller (Android) *Important plugins*: Trackstat, Spicefly Sugarcube, Lazy Search Music, Custom Browse, Multi Library chaug's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47641 View this thread:
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
chaug wrote: > I don't see how the speed of my commands is a source of error. I speak > at the same pace as you do in your demonstration video (which is good, > btw. Very nice to get an idea of the app). Besides, there is not much > pacing involved in "Alexa shuffle" or "Alexa, next". Background noise > can be safely excluded too when I'm in the room by myself, with no noise > source anywhere and my standing about half a meter away from the Echo > dot. There is something else going on here. > > I will check the test-player next time when the echo dot doesn't want to > play something. > > I suppose it's not a big problem when the custom names for my echo dots > don't persist. The reason I was trying to do it was so that I don't have > to remember which is which player when I'm testing things. I didn't > think that the players announce their name to the server but rather that > the server remembers the association between Name and MAC address, so it > looked like something else might be wrong. > > That a playlist cannot be shuffled before starting playback is a bummer. > I'm trying to work around that by concatenating the stream command + > Alexa shuffle + Alexa next (in an Alexa routine) but it doesn't work > because whatever comes after "playlist" is interpreted as part of the > name of the playlist. And Alexa doesn't allow two actions with the same > skill in one routine. So it really looks like there is no way of getting > a playlist played in random order without manually issuing the commands > every time. Of the 14 Echos I've owned over time, two had microphones go bad so Alexa misinterpreted a lot of my commands (they were both 2nd generation Echo Dots). That might be your issue too because I agree there's not much can go wrong with just saying 2 words. You can try 'Simon Says' with a longish sentence (she reads back what you say). For example, "Alexa, Simon Says this is a test of the microphone in my device". If the audio stutters, you know you have a hardware problem. Network Clients don't have a MAC address. The playerId of a player is indeed usually its MAC address but in the case of a network client, the playerId is the text after the ?player=-whatever -in the /stream.mp3 endpoint. I might be able to add a 'shuffled' qualifier to the StreamPlaylist command. That would have to be an an exact syntax where you'd say 'stream the playlist -whatever- *shuffled*'. Not a natural flow of words but it would work. I'll do all that after the current certification submission passes because I can't touch the live skill at the moment or risk rejection. Amazon normally certifies in 1-2 days but it's been over a week already so they are apparently slow due to Covid understaffing. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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MrC wrote: > > First and foremost, I want to say how much I appreciated your nicely > designed software and web content, and your overall superb support for > everyone here. This is the first mondo-thread where I read every post > from 1 to n. Great work, and thank you. Good to hear :cool: MrC wrote: > > - For installation, the only issue I had was failure of the page > redirects to enable the authorization of the skill. I figured it out, > but it just didn't work via the Alexa app. The Alexa app (on iOS) would > pop open the internal browser, but credentials never moved past the > Authorizing screen - it just spun forever. So I managed this elsewhere. Good point. The docs used to say not to try it from the app but that got removed in a pare-down. I'll put it back in. MrC wrote: > > - The docs are still a bit confusing as to which credentials are > supposed to be entered. This should be made crystal clear and > unambiguous. In reality, what other credentials might even be relevant? See https://mediaserver.smartskills.tech/ac-link-lms.html. It already says " Type the username and password you previously chose in the configurator". How could that be clearer? MrC wrote: > > - The entire reason for us to use MediaServer + LMS Lite was so that my > wife could quickly start playback, and control, her choice of radio > streams (she doesn't do much playback of our audio rips, since she can't > recall at a moment what we have, nor does she think about or engage with > music in this way). But to do this as a one-shot required me to > configure Routines for each favorite station. Obviously this method > severely limits playback choices. With LMS-lite, a mere "Alexa, favorite three on Kitchen" will play favorite number 3 on your Kitchen player. That's just 5 words. MrC wrote: > > - Alexa had a very difficult time hearing words while audio volume was > sufficiently high. In fact, it's easy to say, she just couldn't hear, > or discern our commands while some talk show was playing. The whole > house speakers in, say the kitchen, have enough energy that Alexa was > essentially unable to hear, sans shouting. Indeed. MrC wrote: > > - The required command language for various controls felt too unnatural > for my wife, robotic, and required a lot of memorization of what would > work, what would not, and under which circumstances to use certain > directives, verbs, nouns, and prepositions. I would have had to post a > cheat sheet for her. And that would work for one room only, requiring > that she uses different commands in other rooms. Ultimately, she'd like > to say "Play BBC World News" to get playback in any room she was in, > just like she can with the Echo's. So, it was a dead end, requiring too > much customization, per room, and franking too much talking. So > convenience and ease of use prevailed over better audio. And finally on > this point, she has a better tool at her disposal to play anything - she > calls on me to make it happen. We cannot reduce it to just "Play BBC World News" because that could potentially mean too many things. Is that a -favorite -radio station? Is it an -album -by Blur? Is it a -song -by Rod Stewart? It seems obvious to a human that this is a radio station, but the AI in voice assistants needs to disambiguate. The closest I can get you (without disappointment by targeting the wrong thing) is "Alexa, tell MediaServer to play favorite BBC Radio Three". Think of it as "Darling, tell the Milk Man we need 2 extra milks today". MrC wrote: > > - MediaServer has many commands, and capabilities, most of which we > would never use. We'd never stream via LMS to our Echo devices, or > other targets. Every room has it's own set of speakers, controlled by > the whole house audio system. So it would have been nice to disable all > commands for things we would never use, and avoid the mistaken playback > on Echo devices. We found too many times that Alexa would play to, or > control, the local Echo and not do what we wanted. I would be great if > there was a configuration that could disable certain commands, so that > any requests for Help could return only the enabled / available > commands. This would have greatly help present a simple view which > might have worked better for my wife. I'm pretty sure this is outside > of your control with a skill. The way Alexa works is that she hears what you say, decides on a skill that can handle it, and passes the parameters to the skill. If the commands were stripped from MediaServer but nevertheless spoken by the user, Alexa would merely redirect to a different skill (or music service) to process. So Amazon Music or TuneIn (as fallbacks) would be reacting instead of MediaServer, but it would still be a mess. Fact is, voice assistants (as you point out) need the user to remember pretty exact syntax or it's game-over. MrC wrote: > > - We found MediaServer / Alexa would not remember the assumed player. >
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
philchillbill wrote: > > > - "Alexa, tell MediaServer to stream my -whatever- playlist". > Subsequently: "Alexa, shuffle". You cannot do it with a single > combined command. And it will not persist, because AlexaPlayers are > temporary/ephemeral. An LMS limitation. - It's not only pronunciation, it's pacing. If you speak too slowly > she assumes you broke off the command before you complete it. Too > fast and she will miss pieces. Background noise doesn't help. Any > skill has those problems. A workaround until you get used to keeping > her happy is to 'open' the skill so you're in a session rather than > doing a one-shot. And look at the Echo while speaking to it. That > way, the skill has her attention and she's (hopefully) not going to > send your command to some other skill. - Getting audio from LMS to an Echo is not the same as from LMS to > a squeezebox. It all goes via /stream.mp3 and has to be transcoded. > An Echo can handle anything you throw at it but LMS cannot stream > anything other than mp3 (LMS is the limiting factor here). It's very > likely a transcoding issue (I presume you have LAME installed?). > Visit e.g. the -h t t p://:9000/stream.mp3?player=Test- > endpoint from a browser and play some stuff in the newly-created > 'Test' player from the LMS GUI. I'll bet the sources/tracks that > fail with the Echo also produce silence in the browser. - AlexaPlayers are -network clients- to LMS, not regular players. > They appear and disappear. However, they always get the same name > when created (Alexa-x, where the 'x' is constant). To > protect your privacy, Amazon does not allow ANY skill to request the > name you gave to your Echo in the app imagine if you called it > "Bathroom Echo", skill developers would know you had a bathroom in > your house ! :rolleyes: What problem would it solve for you if the > names were remembered by LMS? Maybe you mean that the players should > be permanent so that their settings persisted? Well, that would > require @philippe to create a bridge for them... > > > I don't see how the speed of my commands is a source of error. I speak at the same pace as you do in your demonstration video (which is good, btw. Very nice to get an idea of the app). Besides, there is not much pacing involved in "Alexa shuffle" or "Alexa, next". Background noise can be safely excluded too when I'm in the room by myself, with no noise source anywhere and my standing about half a meter away from the Echo dot. There is something else going on here. I will check the test-player next time when the echo dot doesn't want to play something. I suppose it's not a big problem when the custom names for my echo dots don't persist. The reason I was trying to do it was so that I don't have to remember which is which player when I'm testing things. I didn't think that the players announce their name to the server but rather that the server remembers the association between Name and MAC address, so it looked like something else might be wrong. That a playlist cannot be shuffled before starting playback is a bummer. I'm trying to work around that by concatenating the stream command + Alexa shuffle + Alexa next (in an Alexa routine) but it doesn't work because whatever comes after "playlist" is interpreted as part of the name of the playlist. And Alexa doesn't allow two actions with the same skill in one routine. So it really looks like there is no way of getting a playlist played in random order without manually issuing the commands every time. *Server*: LMS 8.1.1 on an Ubuntu 18.04 virtual machine *Players*: Radio, Touch, Duet (Receiver & Controller), 2 Booms *Remote control apps*: Material Skin (Web UI), but also SqueezePad (iOS), Squeezecontroller (Android) *Important plugins*: Trackstat, Spicefly Sugarcube, Lazy Search Music, Custom Browse, Multi Library chaug's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47641 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Hey Phil, Wanted to give some feedback. We recently tested our MediaServer (and LMS Lite) to see how it might fit into our whole house audio system w/2 SB Touch devices. First and foremost, I want to say how much I appreciated your nicely designed software and web content, and your overall superb support for everyone here. This is the first mondo-thread where I read every post from 1 to n. Great work, and thank you. Ultimately, however, we found that voice control of our systems in this fashion would not work for us. Much of this has to do with things that are beyond your control. But here are the issues we encountered, just as FYIs: - For installation, the only issue I had was failure of the page redirects to enable the authorization of the skill. I figured it out, but it just didn't work via the Alexa app. The Alexa app (on iOS) would pop open the internal browser, but credentials never moved past the Authorizing screen - it just spun forever. So I managed this elsewhere. - The docs are still a bit confusing as to which credentials are supposed to be entered. This should be made crystal clear and unambiguous. - The entire reason for us to use MediaServer + LMS Lite was so that my wife could quickly start playback, and control, her choice of radio streams (she doesn't do much playback of our audio rips, since she can't recall at a moment what we have, nor does she think about or engage with music in this way). But to do this as a one-shot required me to configure Routines for each favorite station. Obviously this method severely limits playback choices. - Alexa had a very difficult time hearing words while audio volume was sufficiently high. In fact, it's easy to say, she just couldn't hear, or discern our commands while some talk show was playing. The whole house speakers in, say the kitchen, have enough energy that Alexa was essentially unable to hear, sans shouting. - The required command language for various controls felt too unnatural for my wife, robotic, and required a lot of memorization of what would work, what would not, and under which circumstances to use certain directives, verbs, nouns, and prepositions. I would have had to post a cheat sheet for her. And that would work for one room only, requiring that she uses different commands in other rooms. Ultimately, she'd like to say "Play BBC World News" to get playback in any room she was in, just like she can with the Echo's. So, it was a dead end, requiring too much customization, per room, and franking too much talking. So convenience and ease of use prevailed over better audio. And finally on this point, she has a better tool at her disposal to play anything - she calls on me to make it happen. - MediaServer has many commands, and capabilities, most of which we would never use. We'd never stream via LMS to our Echo devices, or other targets. Every room has it's own set of speakers, controlled by the whole house audio system. So it would have been nice to disable all commands for things we would never use, and avoid the mistaken playback on Echo devices. We found too many times that Alexa would play to, or control, the local Echo and not do what we wanted. I would be great if there was a configuration that could disable certain commands, so that any requests for Help could return only the enabled / available commands. This would have greatly help present a simple view which might have worked better for my wife. I'm pretty sure this is outside of your control with a skill. - We found MediaServer / Alexa would not remember the assumed player. Trying to figure out when it would, would not, was an exercise in futility for us. It would have been nice to be able to configure the system to know about one and only one device, a single Touch (we have 2 in our whole house audio rack, and I select which I want to use at any given time). In this model, there could never be mistakes as to which player was getting the command (albeit, Alexa does tend to want do insert herself into the audio playback). And if MediaServer could then assume that player entirely, that would have helped. - MediaServer - The skill name itself kept feeling like too many syllables (its also a "word" that requires much mouth/tongue gymnastics, and with quick or slurred speech, was often mistaken). At 5 syllables just for the skill name, and then all those for the commands, it felt like there was so much talky-talky, back and forth, the entire voice model was far more cumbersome and error-prone than just walking over to the kitchen's iPad and using Material Skin for command / playback selection (and there are no mistakes, repeated commands doing this), or just using the kitchen's Echo directly. - LMS Lite - This was used only to turn on / of the whole house audio amp, and for Stop, Pause. And this requires that our Elan system was programmed to support certain Alexa skills. It also required me to create the Routines I mentioned above
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
chaug wrote: > > > > - How can I start streaming an LMS-playlist in shuffle mode (so that > it starts with a different track every time) - What am I doing wrong with the no-invocation commands? I can > confidently say that my english pronounciation is in no way unusual > or difficult to understand. Alexa understands me fine all the time, > except when using the MediaServer app. In fact, the problem exists > not just with no-invocation commands. It also occurs when I try to > invoke a mediaserve one-shot command, Alexa never gets the entire > command. For example, when I say "Alexa, tell media server to play > favourite Amina 8", most of the time, she will either say nothing or > "Say a mediaserver command". - What might be the reason that skipping to the next song will > sometimes lead to silence despite the track actually being streamed > by LMS? My best guess is that it has to do with encoding. This is > happening on a youtube playlist and I believe youtube tracks > sometimes use different codecs. But since it is LMS streamingt to > Alexa, I would still blame LMS/the plugin for not transcoding into a > codec that Alexa understands. - Is there any way of making LMS remember the name of the Alexa > players? > > > - "Alexa, tell MediaServer to stream my -whatever- playlist". Subsequently: "Alexa, shuffle". You cannot do it with a single combined command. And it will not persist, because AlexaPlayers are temporary/ephemeral. An LMS limitation. - It's not only pronunciation, it's pacing. If you speak too slowly she assumes you broke off the command before you complete it. Too fast and she will miss pieces. Background noise doesn't help. Any skill has those problems. A workaround until you get used to keeping her happy is to 'open' the skill so you're in a session rather than doing a one-shot. And look at the Echo while speaking to it. That way, the skill has her attention and she's (hopefully) not going to send your command to some other skill. - Getting audio from LMS to an Echo is not the same as from LMS to a squeezebox. It all goes via /stream.mp3 and has to be transcoded. An Echo can handle anything you throw at it but LMS cannot stream anything other than mp3 (LMS is the limiting factor here). It's very likely a transcoding issue (I presume you have LAME installed?). Visit e.g. the -h t t p://:9000/stream.mp3?player=Test- endpoint from a browser and play some stuff in the newly-created 'Test' player from the LMS GUI. I'll bet the sources/tracks that fail with the Echo also produce silence in the browser. - AlexaPlayers are -network clients- to LMS, not regular players. They appear and disappear. However, they always get the same name when created (Alexa-x, where the 'x' is constant). To protect your privacy, Amazon does not allow ANY skill to request the name you gave to your Echo in the app imagine if you called it "Bathroom Echo", skill developers would know you had a bathroom in your house ! :rolleyes: What problem would it solve for you if the names were remembered by LMS? Maybe you mean that the players should be permanent so that their settings persisted? Well, that would require @philippe to create a bridge for them... philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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I'm desperately trying to get Alexa to stream a playlist (to Alexa player) in shuffle mode but I can't figure out how to do it. It does play the playlist but it always starts at the beginning. When I then say "Alexa, shuffle" she doesn't recognize the command a lot of the times and when she does, she says "Shuffle on", yay! If I then say "Alexa, next", she doesn't recognise the command. When I say "Alexa, skip" she says "Next" and does indeed play the track. Except, sometimes she doesn't. She just stops playing and the next track never starts. Except that it does show as playing on the LMS web-UI. I hoped that once I set the Alexa player on shuffle, it would stay there and next time I play that playlist, it will shuffle, but no. I noticed that when I change the name of the "ALEXA-*" player to something else, LMS (or Alexa?) will eventually forget that name and go back to "ALEXA-*", so I assume that this forgetfulness is also the reason why the shuffle state doesn't persist. So I have four questions (relating to each of the four issues just mentioned): - How can I start streaming an LMS-playlist in shuffle mode (so that it starts with a different track every time) - What am I doing wrong with the no-invocation commands? I can confidently say that my english pronounciation is in no way unusual or difficult to understand. Alexa understands me fine all the time, except when using the MediaServer app. In fact, the problem exists not just with no-invocation commands. It also occurs when I try to invoke a mediaserve one-shot command, Alexa never gets the entire command. For example, when I say "Alexa, tell media server to play favourite Amina 8", most of the time, she will either say nothing or "Say a mediaserver command". - What might be the reason that skipping to the next song will sometimes lead to silence despite the track actually being streamed by LMS? My best guess is that it has to do with encoding. This is happening on a youtube playlist and I believe youtube tracks sometimes use different codecs. But since it is LMS streamingt to Alexa, I would still blame LMS/the plugin for not transcoding into a codec that Alexa understands. - Is there any way of making LMS remember the name of the Alexa players? *Server*: LMS 8.1.1 on an Ubuntu 18.04 virtual machine *Players*: Radio, Touch, Duet (Receiver & Controller), 2 Booms *Remote control apps*: Material Skin (Web UI), but also SqueezePad (iOS), Squeezecontroller (Android) *Important plugins*: Trackstat, Spicefly Sugarcube, Lazy Search Music, Custom Browse, Multi Library chaug's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47641 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Thanks for the detailed diagnostics and suggestions. Timezones mean that I am too full of dinner and watching TV to check everything today, but will go through it all tomorrow morning (my time). Peter Galbavy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Peter Galbavy wrote:
> Thanks for the pointers, been there done those; Specifically:
>
> I tried "alexa, stream the album songs from the north" and she replies
> correctly and the album art appears. LAME is installed (docker container
> on a Synology) and - this is the fun bit - when I the open the
> /stream.mp3 URL in my browser (on the same reverse proxied URL) is both
> plays *and* a new player appears in LMS called Alexa-X - but this
> player is only there when I am manually streaming to my browser. When I
> stop and ask the Echo Show to once again stream, artwork appear but no
> autio and no player in LMS web interface.
>
> In terms of the "assume" command, I have followed the docs and tried
> variations - my reading implies that when you say "alexa, tell media
> server to assume the lounge player" is somehow enabling that specific
> Echo Show to stream as a new player in LMS called "Lounge" but perhaps I
> have missed a step? It just says "I can't find a player called lounge"
> or whatever other room is misheard.
>
> I am not (yet) a subscriber as I want to know if this works, so the
> Australia bit is more the location - I am normally in the UK and my root
> Amazon account is UK based.
You cannot assume an AlexaPlayer (Echo) no matter what its name (I'll
amend the docs to mention that thanks) and there's even no need to.
Skills do not have access to the friendlyName you assigned to your Echo
such as e.g. Lounge Echo all Amazon provides us is a huge deviceId
string which I chop 5 characters from to give you the Alexa-x name
seen in the LMS GUI when streaming. However, even without knowing a
name, Mediaserver's 'Stream' commands -always -target the Echo you are
talking to. It's actually the only way Amazon allows a skill to start
music playing on an Echo (a skill cannot ask one Echo to play music on
another one only the big music services are 'allowed' do that).
I'm guessing that the lack of audio is related to your docker or proxy
situation. After your attempted Stream command (where you were told
"Streaming 11 'Musical' tracks..." but heard silence), the logs show a
MEDIA_ERROR_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE playback error:
Code:
"request": {
"type": "AudioPlayer.PlaybackFailed",
"requestId": "amzn1.echo-api.request.d16f8e14-8539-4c51-9416-4dfc7f351d02",
"timestamp": "2022-01-26T22:18:24Z",
"locale": "en-US",
"currentPlaybackState": {
"offsetInMilliseconds": 0,
"token": "1643235490915",
"playerActivity": "STOPPED"
},
"error": {
"message": "Device playback error",
"type": "MEDIA_ERROR_SERVICE_UNAVAILABLE"
},
"token": "1643235490915"
}
That would indicate that the Echo didn't see a valid audio stream at the
address that LMS resolves to in your LAN.
The normal 'Play' command just instruct LMS to talk to your players and
feed them as LMS does. The 'Stream' commands are different by necessity
because the Echo needs to be fed with a stream *from a URL*, much like
internet radio. LMS is told to start up a /stream.mp3 network client and
then the Echo is pointed at that stream locally within your LAN. That
last part must be failing due to your proxy/docker setup. The
/stream.mp3 endpoint has to be unprotected and reachable over http
without basic auth in your LAN for it to work.
Can you share any details of your proxy or docker config? Any reason you
didn't go the ngrok route? Earlier, you got a bad-SSL cert error (EPROTO
140716538210176:error:1408F10B:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:wrong
version number:../deps/openssl/openssl/ssl/record/ssl3_record.c:332) so
it may also be that Amazon does not trust your proxy. You subsequently
re-linked the skill without a port number in the https URL which
silenced the error, but Amazon may still have issues with your proxy.
Amazon has whitelisted ngrok which is why people who go that route never
have issues like this.
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Thanks for the pointers, been there done those; Specifically: I tried "alexa, stream the album songs from the north" and she replies correctly and the album art appears. LAME is installed (docker container on a Synology) and - this is the fun bit - when I the open the /stream.mp3 URL in my browser (on the same reverse proxied URL) is both plays *and* a new player appears in LMS called Alexa-X - but this player is only there when I am manually streaming to my browser. When I stop and ask the Echo Show to once again stream, artwork appear but no autio and no player in LMS web interface. In terms of the "assume" command, I have followed the docs and tried variations - my reading implies that when you say "alexa, tell media server to assume the lounge player" is somehow enabling that specific Echo Show to stream as a new player in LMS called "Lounge" but perhaps I have missed a step? It just says "I can't find a player called lounge" or whatever other room is misheard. I am not (yet) a subscriber as I want to know if this works, so the Australia bit is more the location - I am normally in the UK and my root Amazon account is OK based. Peter Galbavy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Peter Galbavy wrote: > I've gone through a somewhat convoluted set-up process, using my own > proxy, and while the skill can control the player on my PC I cannot get > it to either stream audio or assume a player for my Echo Show 8. If I > tell media server to "assume the lounge player" is just says "cannot > find a player called lounge" - I have read back and forth and can't see > any other step required to "enable" the Echo Show as a player. Streaming > shows things in the screen, but silence. > > My Echo Show is in Australia and the skill complained about languages, > so I switched to both US and UK english to test. Can "Australian" be > added to the list of supported languages please? > > Would it not be cleaner to have an additional explicit command to enable > an Echo (Show) as a player rather than "assume" which also seems to pick > the default player for commands? If you ask it to list your players, is there one called Lounge among them? What exact command did you try in order to stream? Silence when streaming usually means the LAME encoder is missing from your LMS install. Thats in the docs. Also, you would never assume an Echo as that command is only for squeezeboxes. When you use any stream command then the audio sink is always the Echo youre talking to. Amazon does not allow skills with subscriptions in Australia. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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I've gone through a somewhat convoluted set-up process, using my own proxy, and while the skill can control the player on my PC I cannot get it to either stream audio or assume a player for my Echo Show 8. If I tell media server to "assume the lounge player" is just says "cannot find a player called lounge" - I have read back and forth and can't see any other step required to "enable" the Echo Show as a player. Streaming shows things in the screen, but silence. My Echo Show is in Australia and the skill complained about languages, so I switched to both US and UK english to test. Can "Australian" be added to the list of supported languages please? Would it not be cleaner to have an additional explicit command to enable an Echo (Show) as a player rather than "assume" which also seems to pick the default player for commands? Peter Galbavy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Sorry for the potential FAQ, but this is a very long thread and there is nothing in the first few pages; Just populating a holiday home with Echo Show 8s (2nd gen) and thought it would be nice to have LMS integration. I do not under any circumstances whatsoever however want to use "some random guy's" cloud proxy service - I am quite happy with my in-house network security and my own remote access controls. I am happy to pay for the "skill" but without the random guy of the street's proxy. Can I set this up with my own access methods? Please don't say it's too complicated - I've been building weird IP networks since the dawn of time. I have to trust Amazon - sadly - but that's the limit of my desire for this. Peter Galbavy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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philchillbill wrote: > The Stream commands use the /stream.mp3 endpoint in LMS so that means > that LMS needs to be able to transcode your flacs to mp3. The echo can > handle FLAC no problem (these days) but LMS cannot stream anything other > than mp3. > > LMS should do that on the fly so if its not then its usually just that > the LAME decoder is not installed on your system or your transcoding > rules are messed up. For the avoidance of doubt, thats all in respect > of LMS and not the Echo or the skill. > > See https://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/LAME_for_transcoding.html Many thanks for that. All now working thankyou. Grizzly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Thanks to @chaug on the LMS-lite thread, there's now a documented procedure for subscribing when Alexa tells you that subscriptions are not available in your country/region. See https://mediaserver.smartskills.tech/mediaserverhelp.html#section-7-1-2 for a how-to. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Grizzly wrote: > Excellent addition to my LMS setup thankyou. I was just catching up on > the forum about developments etc and noticed the Stream command so > thought I would check it out. Whilst everything appears to work. I do > not get any output from my Echo (Show 8). Cover art is displayed on the > Echo and lms shows the Alexa as a player however it doesn't start > playing and can't be started by playing from LMS. My entire music > collection is Flac. Does the Echo need to convert it on the fly to MP3? > Any guidance of what I may need to set / check would be very welcome - > Thanks again for a great product, continues to get better. The Stream commands use the /stream.mp3 endpoint in LMS so that means that LMS needs to be able to transcode your flacs to mp3. The echo can handle FLAC no problem (these days) but LMS cannot stream anything other than mp3. LMS should do that on the fly so if its not then its usually just that the LAME decoder is not installed on your system or your transcoding rules are messed up. For the avoidance of doubt, thats all in respect of LMS and not the Echo or the skill. See https://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/LAME_for_transcoding.html philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Excellent addition to my LMS setup thankyou. I was just catching up on the forum about developments etc and noticed the Stream command so thought I would check it out. Whilst everything appears to work. I do not get any output from my Echo (Show 8). Cover art is displayed on the Echo and lms shows the Alexa as a player however it doesn't start playing and can't be started by playing from LMS. My entire music collection is Flac. Does the Echo need to convert it on the fly to MP3? Any guidance of what I may need to set / check would be very welcome - Thanks again for a great product, continues to get better. Grizzly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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I have several new intents lined up for certification so now would be a good time to tweak any misfirings in the voice model. I find that Alexa often misunderstands me when I use the assume and ungroup commands. If you have any examples of commands that she often misunderstands for you, let me know here and I can tweak the model before it all gets certified and hence frozen. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Tweaks: * The ImageList APL template can now split the screen and start a new row of Tiles per-artist when multiple artists match a requested song. * When queueing multiple variations of a requested track, the queued vs non-queued variants of the track appear above and below a scrollable split. * The text of the tracknum/genre/year/type is a whiter shad of gray. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Tweaks: * Just added beep-when-touched functionality to the buttons on the ImageList, TextList and FavList APL screens and to the buttons on the PlayerControls popup. * Fixed an issue introduced yesterday when the prev/next buttons on the PlayerControls popup were used (the NowPlaying screen was inadvertently interrupted by a ShowTextual screen which should have been suppressed). philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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mechaMecha wrote: > I see. Thanks for the quick reply! The way I use Tidal and Qobuz most of > the time is to check out artists and albums that I don't have in my > local music library. I don't generally like to listen to the same songs > over and over again. Is there any hope that this skill may eventually > allow me to ask for a specific artist or album to play via Tidal or > Qobuz? That depends entirely on what the Online Music Services plugin exposes in respect of Tidal and Qobuz. All this skill does is talk to LMS through the jsonrpc.js interface. Anything exposed is fair game but otherwise I have no access to it. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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andrewhess wrote: > I have been referring to that list, so at least I have that going for > me. :) > > I have Spotty on the LMS home menu, but I've renamed it to Spotify (not > sure if that matters). > > I'll play around when I get home so I'll have more detailed info (or so > I can let you know that I figured it out). > > Loving it so far! Sorry I cannot help much because I'm not a Spotify user myself. The name on the home menu would not matter. I have toyed with playing Spotify playlists though when developing things. They show up as e.g. "Spotify: Bryan Adams" when I ask to List Playlists. If I just say "*Play *my Bryan Adams *playlist*", the skill will check all playlists (local, spotify, deezer, ...) for something called Bryan Adams and if more that one item matched, local LMS would 'win'. If you use the "*Fetch *Bryan Adams" syntax, it makes sure there's only a match in Spotify items and ignores LMS local stuff. That might help at least with playlists. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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philchillbill wrote: > There are no dedicated commands for Tidal and Qobuz, but any items > visible to LMS via the online music service integration are accessible > through all the regular skill commands for playing local LMS library > items. For example, if you have a playlist called Chill on an online > service, saying Play my Chill playlist will play it. I see. Thanks for the quick reply! The way I use Tidal and Qobuz most of the time is to check out artists and albums that I don't have in my local music library. I don't generally like to listen to the same songs over and over again. Is there any hope that this skill may eventually allow me to ask for a specific artist or album to play via Tidal or Qobuz? mechaMecha's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72451 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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I have been referring to that list, so at least I have that going for me. :) I have Spotty on the LMS home menu, but I've renamed it to Spotify (not sure if that matters). I'll play around when I get home so I'll have more detailed info (or so I can let you know that I figured it out). Loving it so far! andrewhess's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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andrewhess wrote: > I'm now realizing I may have been saying "Play in Spotify" but > perhaps it has to be "Spotty"? I want MediaServer to search Spotify for > the album or song and play it. Alexa is rather specific with syntax, so guessing what a command -might -be is usually not a good idea. See the A-Z reference at https://mediaserver.smartskills.tech/commandref/PlayAlbum.html#30. All the commands are there with all their allowed spoken variations. Are the Spotty items you want to play already exposed to LMS? If you don't see a Spotify item inside an LMS view of the world, the skill will never find it. It's not a Spotify skill. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
philchillbill wrote: > LMS-lite has no 'play xxx' commands at all so all it can do is transport > commands. MediaServer can access any music items -already -visible in > LMS. If you can see it in iPeng/Material/Default, you can just play it > the same as with any local music file. What commands are you trying? I'm now realizing I may have been saying "Play in Spotify" but perhaps it has to be "Spotty"? I want MediaServer to search Spotify for the album or song and play it. andrewhess's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
andrewhess wrote: > Any idea why I can't get Mediaserver or LMS-lite to play from Spotty? I > thought that it would go to Spotify if the item wasn't in my personal > library. I've also tried specifying Spotify, but that doesn't work > either. LMS-lite has no 'play xxx' commands at all so all it can do is transport commands. MediaServer can access any music items -already -visible in LMS. If you can see it in iPeng/Material/Default, you can just play it the same as with any local music file. What commands are you trying? philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
philchillbill wrote: > There are no dedicated commands for Tidal and Qobuz, but any items > visible to LMS via the online music service integration are accessible > through all the regular skill commands for playing local LMS library > items. For example, if you have a playlist called Chill on an online > service, saying Play my Chill playlist will play it. Any idea why I can't get Mediaserver or LMS-lite to play from Spotty? I thought that it would go to Spotify if the item wasn't in my personal library. I've also tried specifying Spotify, but that doesn't work either. andrewhess's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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mechaMecha wrote: > I've noticed that there are some brief mentions of this MediaServer > skill being able to control Tidal and Qobuz, but I haven't seen anything > specific about how to invoke commands to do so. I apologize if this > information can be found somewhere in this thread, but I've done a bit > of searching here and on the Smartskills site and came up empty. There are no dedicated commands for Tidal and Qobuz, but any items visible to LMS via the online music service integration are accessible through all the regular skill commands for playing local LMS library items. For example, if you have a playlist called Chill on an online service, saying Play my Chill playlist will play it. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
I've noticed that there are some brief mentions of this MediaServer skill being able to control Tidal and Qobuz, but I haven't seen anything specific about how to invoke commands to do so. I apologize if this information can be found somewhere in this thread, but I've done a bit of searching here and on the Smartskills site and came up empty. mechaMecha's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72451 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
Some more APL tweaks: * Progress bar is now the same color as the icons (wheat). * Track *duration *in H:M:S appears in small text at the rightmost extremity of the progress bar. Leading 0's are stripped. * *Back *button is only shown when there is something to go back to. * goBack behaviour is much improved and handles up to *4 screens*, with no more 'wasted ' saving of screen refreshes as valid entries. * Pressing any of the icon buttons produces a *chime sound* on your Echo as audible confirmation that the touch-event registered. It can take a while for the results if your Echo is busy with housekeeping under the hood so this is a signal to be patient and wait for the command to complete. * The little icons beside the *GENRE *and *YEAR *tags are now touch-enabled and will load touch-enabled lists with up to 400 entries of albums matching that genre or year. The 400 is empirical as I found that too long a list was causing a System.ExceptionEncountered error. Enjoy ! philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
andrewhess wrote: > That did it! It must have been the reboot -- I saw the ngrok address > change and - bang - I've got Mediaserver! Lot's to play with here. Thank > you so much! > > Two small questions (I'm still reading through the thread, so apologies > if it's already been covered): > > > > - Can I rename the skill so I'm saying "Alexa, tell the stereo to > play"? - Can I set it up so "Alexa, play..." automatically uses the > mediaserver skill? > > > > > > Thanks again for your help. I think this will be great! Good to hear. Unfortunately, a skill can only have one invocation name and it must be 2 or more words anyway so stereo would never work. Luckily, we think we are saying MediaServer but Alexa thinks its Media Server. You also cannot use a skill as if it were a music service so you have to invoke. That said, if you really like the skill, get an Echo with screen and you can leave out invocation after an initial command. Thats because having stuff displayed by a skill keeps it open. The online docs will help you much more than reading this long thread. Many, many things improved over the years so theres no need to read about past topics that are all no longer relevant. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
That did it! It must have been the reboot -- I saw the ngrok address change and - bang - I've got Mediaserver! Lot's to play with here. Thank you so much! Two small questions (I'm still reading through the thread, so apologies if it's already been covered): - Can I rename the skill so I'm saying "Alexa, tell the stereo to play"? - Can I set it up so "Alexa, play..." automatically uses the mediaserver skill? Thanks again for your help. I think this will be great! andrewhess's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
Some minor APL tweaks: * AlbumArtist is now shown in italics (if the tag is present) * The progress bar changes to red if playback is paused or stopped * The track-total is now shown in a smaller font than the curretn track-index * If the name of the genre is long enough to cause the display-line with track/genre/year/type to overflow, the type is hidden philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
andrewhess wrote: > Okay, that's weird. First, when I use my browser, I get: > 36692 > > When I click beyond it, my username and password are not accepted. I did > have a password with $'s, but took those out. Neither password worked. > > ??? > > Should I redo the configurator? > Oh, and no LMS passwords set. Do you have some overactive internet security like Norton running? Never seen that one. Ngrok is safe as houses. My script that links the skill for you just returns the response that it receives from ngrok so something is up somewhere. No real need to redo the configurator and get a new script if you have the capability to edit the .sh file and change the pwd there. Id say reboot, get a new assigned tunnel url and retry in a different browser. If a browser will not let you in then neither will the linking page. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
philchillbill wrote: > Does your LMS have its own password possibility enabled? > If so, that needs to be cancelled. Try your ngrok url in a browser with > the credentials you entered in the configurator and see what error the > browser gives you. It just leads to your :9000, after all. > > > Edit: Are you using any weird characters in your password? Okay, that's weird. First, when I use my browser, I get: 36692 When I click beyond it, my username and password are not accepted. I did have a password with $'s, but took those out. Neither password worked. ??? Should I redo the configurator? +---+ |Filename: Screenshot 2022-01-06 164436.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36692| +---+ andrewhess's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
andrewhess wrote: > Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I created the tunnel in ngrok and see it > in my dashboard. I ran 'sh setup.sh' in my picoreplayer and it ran > successfully. I am entering the username and password I created when I > created the tunnel. I even looked in setup.sh to make sure the username > and password were there. I'm even copying and pasting them, so I don't > inadvertently misspell. > > > 36681 Does your LMS have its own password possibility enabled? If so, that needs to be cancelled. Try your ngrok url in a browser with the credentials you entered in the configurator and see what error the browser gives you. It just leads to your :9000, after all. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I created the tunnel in ngrok and see it in my dashboard. I am using the username and password I created when I created the tunnel. I even looked in setup.sh and saw them there. I'm even copying and pasting them, so I don't inadvertently misspell. I think I've attached a screenshot. :confused: 36681 +---+ |Filename: Screenshot_20220106-114517_Chrome.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36681| +---+ andrewhess's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
36671 The skill's Now-Playing screen has a new button next to the progress-bar (encircled in red in the image above). When you press it, a set of Player Controls appears on the bottom of the screen for 15 seconds (or until you click the little [X] in the top-right corner for immediate closure). 36672 The buttons on the panel are for: * previous * play/pause (toggle) * next, * repeat mode (sequences through 0, 1, 2 for off/song/playlist) * shuffle (sequences through 0, 1, 2 for off/song/album) * volume slider. When the player is muted, the slider is red and otherwise it's blue. When you touch any of these controls, Alexa provides spoken feedback of the action taken. Enjoy ! +---+ |Filename: controls.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36672| +---+ philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
36607
When you ask to play a named track, e.g. "Alexa, play the song
Cloudburst Flight" (by Tangerine Dream), the skill first searches for
all matches across your entire library. All variants with the same
base-title 'disappear' into a single queued variant that represents them
all. This is not always a great solution because sometimes we have track
variants which are in reality quite different but which share the same
base-title so there's no way of knowing based just on the tags.
For example. I get told that I have 2 variants of it, namely "Cloudburst
Flight" and "Cloudburst Flight 2008" and both of these queue for
playback. The oldest track year-wise with the shortest name will always
queue to play first, so in this case the version from the album Force
Majeure. However, if you look at the above (new) screenshot from an Echo
Show, I actually have 8 songs all called Cloudburst Flight with no
further title qualifiers like (2003) or (Live) or (Extended) or
whatever. The version from the album Cruise to the Edge is actually a
live version and quite different, but the skill does not 'know' that.
There was always the option to specify a particular album name when
asking for the song (Alexa, play the song Cloudburst Flight from the
album Cruise to the Edge). New is that we have a second option namely,
the above screenshot will appear on Echo Show devices to *visualize all
variants of the track* and I have a few seconds to *tap one of the album
covers* if I want to play that variant instead of the 'calculated'
version. Saves having to specify fully at the outset.
36608
Also new is that the Help screen contains 3 new *buttons *which can be
used to open the Show's browser to the A-Z command reference page, to
the troubleshooting section of the setup documentation ('Solve'), or to
play a Vimeo video with many examples of using the skill ('Demo').
Incidentally, in the coming days, that video will get a refresh to
reflect all the recent changes around look-and-feel and the new touch
controls.
Enjoy !
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
philchillbill wrote: > Great. Sorry I didnt think of LAME earlier. Ill add it to the > Troubleshooting guide in the online help. Good idea to add the tip to the guide. Cheers. castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
castalla wrote: > and. SUCCESS! Fav 1 (bbc from Global player) now playing with > artwork and sound. Great. Sorry I didnt think of LAME earlier. Ill add it to the Troubleshooting guide in the online help. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
castalla wrote: > That could be the problem. I believe it's an extension - need to > investigate. > > Edit: lame now installed now. Will test later today (hospital visit > for most of day) and. SUCCESS! Fav 1 (bbc from Global player) now playing with artwork and sound. castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
philchillbill wrote: > Do you have Lame installed on your pi? Sounds like no transcoding > happening. That could be the problem. I believe it's an extension - need to investigate. castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
expectingtofly wrote: > I don't know anything about the how the Alexa skill works. But in terms > of Global player, the plugin is just providing direct links to the > remote stream (most of them are Mp4), the plugin is not doing anything > with them, so the plugin is not really involved there in terms of the > Alexa skill. > BBC sounds is more complex, but basically it is presenting an AAC stream > from the server. > > If the Alexa skill requires stream.mp3, is this a transcoding issue? To get audio to emanate from the Echo itself, it needs to be pointed at a URL to grab the audio stream from. The only way to do that from LMS is via /stream.mp3. An Echo can handle any audio encoding you throw at it, but LMS only streams mp3 so transcoding is indeed required on the LMS end for e.g. OGG radio streams. This reminds me of when @chill first used the skill with pCP, his install was missing LAME for some reason and he also had no sound until he remedied that omission. I'll bet that's the issue here too good suggestion. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
castalla wrote: > Tried the browser route - small player shows but no sound. Do you have Lame installed on your pi? Sounds like no transcoding happening. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
philchillbill wrote: > Well that would seem to indicate that your Show is not the issue. If you > really want an icon then you can paste a *https* icon url into the > favorites.opml file in your prefs folder. For LBC that would be > https://herald.musicradio.com/media/b2aee6ab-1883-4cb5-867d-8d7fcfa1c451.png > > I'm nearly sure that @staresy has at least some favorites working via > plugins (I forget which) so it might be specific to some and not > others. > > You can test playback yourself at home from a browser. Try streaming a > failed favorite and then quickly check > http://192.168.1.4:9000/stream.mp3?player=Alexa-35F4Y in a browser. If > you hear audio then it's down to your Echo and not LMS. If there's no > audio then the plugin is not playing nicely with /stream.mp3. Tried the browser route - small player shows but no sound. castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
castalla wrote: > Okay firmware is latest. > > It seems that the only streaming Favs which work are those from tuneib. > Favs from Global Player and BBC Sounds refuse to play. > Global shows metadata but SOUNDS just gives a blank black screen. I don't know anything about the how the Alexa skill works. But in terms of Global player, the plugin is just providingdirect links to the remote stream (most of them are Mp4), the plugin is not doing anything with them, so the plugin is not really involved there in terms of the Alexa skill. BBC sounds is more complex, but basically it is presenting an AAC stream from the server. If the Alexa skill requires stream.mp3, is this a transcoding issue? Stuart McLean EXPECTINGTOFLY PLUGINS : - *BBC Sounds* : https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_BBC_Sounds_Plugin - *Virgin Radio (UK)* : https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_Virgin_Radio_Plugin - *Times Radio* : https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_TIMES_RADIO_PLUGIN - *Global Player (UK)* : https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_GlobalPlayer_Plugin For BBC Sounds help see the 'BBC Sounds Wiki' (https://github.com/expectingtofly/LMS_BBC_Sounds_Plugin/wiki). expectingtofly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63263 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
castalla wrote: > I used this as a fav: > > http://media-ice.musicradio.com/LBCUKMP3Low > > This works with sound and the wave bar artwork. > > Pity that Plugins are an issue. > > Thanks for the help. Well that would seem to indicate that your Show is not the issue. If you really want an icon then you can paste a *https* icon url into the favorites.opml file in your prefs folder. For LBC that would be https://herald.musicradio.com/media/b2aee6ab-1883-4cb5-867d-8d7fcfa1c451.png I'm nearly sure that @staresy has at least some favorites working via plugins (I forget which) so it might be specific to some and not others. You can test playback yourself at home from a browser. Try streaming a failed favorite and then quickly check http://192.168.1.4:9000/stream.mp3?player=Alexa-35F4Y in a browser. If you hear audio then it's down to your Echo and not LMS. If there's no audio then the plugin is not playing nicely with /stream.mp3. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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castalla wrote: > I'll try to find a direct url to test. I used this as a fav: http://media-ice.musicradio.com/LBCUKMP3Low This works with sound and the wave bar artwork. Pity that Plugins are an issue. Thanks for the help. castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
philchillbill wrote: > Ok well then it must just be down to the combination of having to play > via an LMS plugin and routing audio over /stream.mp3 is something that > LMS does not support. There are often multiple urls possible for > internet radio station so if you find one that does not need the > plugin(s) it should work just fine. I'll try to find a direct url to test. castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
castalla wrote: > Okay firmware is latest. > > It seems that the only streaming Favs which work are those from tuneib. > Favs from Global Player and BBC Sounds refuse to play. > Global shows metadata but SOUNDS just gives a blank black screen. Ok well then it must just be down to the combination of having to play via an LMS plugin and routing audio over /stream.mp3 is something that LMS does not support. There are often multiple urls possible for internet radio station so if you find one that does not need the plugin(s) it should work just fine. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
philchillbill wrote: > The gray radio mast is being returned by LMS (the skill's own fallback > radio icon is a yellow wave-pattern) from your > http://lmsip:9000/imageproxy. No idea why it's a default icon instead of > the real deal. > > You can use Google to find how to check firmware version on your > particular Show (the sub-menus move around from version to version). But > pull down the Show's screen at the top and going for settings would > likely reveal it. Okay firmware is latest. It seems that the only streaming Favs which work are those from tuneib. Favs from Global Player and BBC Sounds refuse to play. Global shows metadata but SOUNDS just gives a blank black screen. castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] 'MediaServer' *certified* Alexa skill for LMS
castalla wrote: > Still getting the radio mast. > > The LBC favourite shows the full metadata with logo but totally silent. > > How do I check the Show is upto date? > > Edit:: added another favourite from Global Player. Same outcome > metadata but no sound. The gray radio mast is being returned by LMS (the skill's own fallback radio icon is a yellow wave-pattern) from your http://lmsip:9000/imageproxy. No idea why it's a default icon instead of the real deal. You can use Google to find how to check firmware version on your particular Show (the sub-menus move around from version to version). But pull down the Show's screen at the top and going for settings would likely reveal it. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
