Re: Croatian

[Matthias Schmidt]

Am 10.12.2012 um 18:15 schrieb Rene Merz:

> Matthias Schmidt wrote:
> 
>> what do I need to do to write Croatian in PM?
>> When I do it now, I get huge letters, like 72pts.
>> I tried several settings, but nothing worked.
> 
> In the Display preferences, select "For script: Central Europe Roman",
 then choose an appropriate font. The problem is that PowerMail does not
 use a unicode text engine, so you need to use a traditional font for
 eastern Europe, and I am not sure such fonts are still present by
 default on OS X. The default font that PowerMail used to use for eastern
 Europe is no longer present.
> 
 
 the text engine is the problem.
 
 I don't have any old font for this anymore to install on that box.
 
 PM is such a wonderful mail client, but it'll need to go really utf
 and iamp.
>>> 
>>> I guess that's not a problem of PM at all.
>> 
>> the problem is that MacOS is UTF and the text-engine of PM is not.
> 
> But you can change it to UTF, no?
> PM Settings > Schriftsystem

no ... the engine is non-utf and that won't change.

I just did a review on mail-clients on the mac and the result was pretty 
frustrating.
There's not a one mail client on the market which could compete with a modern 
version of PowerMail, meaning full UTF and complete imap support (many parallel 
accounts open) with the search power of PM and the clean interface it offers.

so I think a (partial) rewrite of PM would be actually the way to go.

so please Jérôme, think about it.

thanks
Matthias

Re: Croatian

[Rene Merz]

Matthias Schmidt wrote:

> what do I need to do to write Croatian in PM?
> When I do it now, I get huge letters, like 72pts.
> I tried several settings, but nothing worked.

 In the Display preferences, select "For script: Central Europe Roman",
>>> then choose an appropriate font. The problem is that PowerMail does not
>>> use a unicode text engine, so you need to use a traditional font for
>>> eastern Europe, and I am not sure such fonts are still present by
>>> default on OS X. The default font that PowerMail used to use for eastern
>>> Europe is no longer present.

>>>
>>> the text engine is the problem.
>>>
>>> I don't have any old font for this anymore to install on that box.
>>>
>>> PM is such a wonderful mail client, but it'll need to go really utf
>>> and iamp.
>>
>> I guess that's not a problem of PM at all.
>
>the problem is that MacOS is UTF and the text-engine of PM is not.

But you can change it to UTF, no?
PM Settings > Schriftsystem

Re: Croatian

[Matthias Schmidt]

Am 10.12.2012 um 00:43 schrieb Rene Merz:

> Matthias Schmidt wrote:
> 
 what do I need to do to write Croatian in PM?
 When I do it now, I get huge letters, like 72pts.
 I tried several settings, but nothing worked.
>>> 
>>> In the Display preferences, select "For script: Central Europe Roman",
>> then choose an appropriate font. The problem is that PowerMail does not
>> use a unicode text engine, so you need to use a traditional font for
>> eastern Europe, and I am not sure such fonts are still present by
>> default on OS X. The default font that PowerMail used to use for eastern
>> Europe is no longer present.
>>> 
>> 
>> the text engine is the problem.
>> 
>> I don't have any old font for this anymore to install on that box.
>> 
>> PM is such a wonderful mail client, but it'll need to go really utf and iamp.
> 
> I guess that's not a problem of PM at all.

the problem is that MacOS is UTF and the text-engine of PM is not.

Changing that would probably require a nearly complete rewrite of PM in Cocoa 
as the code basis of PM is probably still mostly Carbon. PM was originally 
written in CodeWarrior and CW was bought out of the market quite some time ago. 
A complete rewrite is a huge amount of work and the risk the market won't 
compensate for the effort is quite high, although PM might get a new big fan 
community this way, who knows 

> 
> Go to the System Preferences (Systemeinstellungen) > Sprache & Text > 
> Eingabequellen > Kroatisch
> With the Option "Eingabequellen in der Menüleiste anzeigen".
> 
> Whenever you have to write in Croatian language go there and choose 
> "Kroatisch".


this won't work with PM as long as OSX standard-fonts are used, because they 
are all UTF.
The old CE-Fonts are not available anymore on MacOS X.

> 
> If your fonts for Mac OS X are no more complete, informe you on this page to 
> download the right one:
> 

they suggest to use OS 7 fonts. These fonts can cause trouble with other 
applications under OS X.

I found some package (Os 8.1) on some croatian site, but they cant be 
downloaded :(

cheers
Matthias

Re: Croatian

[Rene Merz]

Matthias Schmidt wrote:

>>> what do I need to do to write Croatian in PM?
>>> When I do it now, I get huge letters, like 72pts.
>>> I tried several settings, but nothing worked.
>>
>> In the Display preferences, select "For script: Central Europe Roman",
>then choose an appropriate font. The problem is that PowerMail does not
>use a unicode text engine, so you need to use a traditional font for
>eastern Europe, and I am not sure such fonts are still present by
>default on OS X. The default font that PowerMail used to use for eastern
>Europe is no longer present.
>>
>
>the text engine is the problem.
>
>I don't have any old font for this anymore to install on that box.
>
>PM is such a wonderful mail client, but it'll need to go really utf and iamp.

I guess that's not a problem of PM at all.

Go to the System Preferences (Systemeinstellungen) > Sprache & Text 
> Eingabequellen > Kroatisch
With the Option "Eingabequellen in der Menüleiste anzeigen".

Whenever you have to write in Croatian language go there and choose "Kroatisch".

If your fonts for Mac OS X are no more complete, informe you on this page to 
download the right one:

Re: Croatian

[Matthias Schmidt]

Am 08.12.2012 um 17:57 schrieb PowerMail Engineering:

> Matthias Schmidt wrote:
> 
>> what do I need to do to write Croatian in PM?
>> When I do it now, I get huge letters, like 72pts.
>> I tried several settings, but nothing worked.
> 
> In the Display preferences, select "For script: Central Europe Roman", then 
> choose an appropriate font. The problem is that PowerMail does not use a 
> unicode text engine, so you need to use a traditional font for eastern 
> Europe, and I am not sure such fonts are still present by default on OS X. 
> The default font that PowerMail used to use for eastern Europe is no longer 
> present.
> 

the text engine is the problem.

I don't have any old font for this anymore to install on that box.

PM is such a wonderful mail client, but it'll need to go really utf and iamp.

cheers
Matthias

Re: Croatian

[PowerMail Engineering]

Matthias Schmidt wrote:

>what do I need to do to write Croatian in PM?
>When I do it now, I get huge letters, like 72pts.
>I tried several settings, but nothing worked.

In the Display preferences, select "For script: Central Europe Roman", then 
choose an appropriate font. The problem is that PowerMail does not use a 
unicode text engine, so you need to use a traditional font for eastern Europe, 
and I am not sure such fonts are still present by default on OS X. The default 
font that PowerMail used to use for eastern Europe is no longer present.


Jérôme - CTM Engineering


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Re: Croatian

[Matthias Schmidt]

Nothing? ... So do I have to change the client then?
Matthias

Am 05.12.2012 um 16:44 schrieb Matthias Schmidt:

> Hello,
> what do I need to do to write Croatian in PM?
> When I do it now, I get huge letters, like 72pts.
> I tried several settings, but nothing worked.
> thanks
> Matthias
>