RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread Dave Crozier
On the basis the M$ have just dropped support for IE 6 I'd drop that from
the list and also anything early on Firefox wise, say less than V3.2.

Dave C

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Has anyone seen a standard recommendation on how many browsers and how far
back a web site should allow for?

Is something like this normal?

IE 8
IE 7 (?)
IE 6 (?)

FireFox

Chrome

Safari

Opera

Do you feel that you're not professional if your web site doesn't support
Safari or Opera?

James E Harvey
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RE: Automated test harness for VFP apps

2010-04-06 Thread Dave Crozier
Mike,
If you remember back to Foxforward then Alan Stevens was heavily involved in
VFP testing frameworks and gave a session on VFP harnesses.. It may well be
useful to give him a call. 

http://netcave.org/

Dave C


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I don't think they exist, but our Q/C group is asking.  So I google and 
found this:

Visual FoxPro 8.0: Using the Automated Test Harness
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa977109%28VS.71%29.aspx

Anyone ever use this or some other automated test harness device for 
helping to test your VFP applications?

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Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread Alan Bourke
I'd say forget about IE6. No reason anyone should still be using it,
unless they have a particularly dumb corporate or institutional IT
department, or a load of applications that require it.
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RE: [OT] Sexual Liberation, for a price

2010-04-06 Thread Dave Crozier
Pete,
Seems to me that has absolutely nothing to do with sexual liberation, but
everything to do with a lack of moral standards on behalf of the accused
parties.

Sexual liberation doesn't mean that a disregard for what is right and what
is wrong can be forgotten. Personally I'd prosecute them to the full extent
of the law and then some.

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Hi Everybody,

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/01/AR2010040101
526.html

Chris Christie called the incident deplorable. OK, that's a start.
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Report Writer bug FIXED!!!

2010-04-06 Thread Dave Crozier
A while ago I posted a message about the fact that in VFP9 the report writer
seems to randomly set the Save Printer Environment  option in the report
whenever a new font is selected for a text field. I had been meaning to look
at a solution but Doug Hennig has beaten me to it and posted a fix.

http://doughennig.blogspot.com/2010/03/fixing-report-designer-bug.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/ykukhhe

Another one less job to do!.

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RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread Richard Kaye
IE6 still has ~15% of the browser market believe it or not. 

http://tinyurl.com/yaxfm25

Having said that, a lot of relatively large sites have said they no longer 
support it.

rk

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I'd say forget about IE6. No reason anyone should still be using it,
unless they have a particularly dumb corporate or institutional IT
department, or a load of applications that require it.
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[OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job

2010-04-06 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I'm going to post this here because a lot of you make your living via 
Foxpro jobs and I believe you will find interesting whatever is going on 
here.

I'm not sure why they will post the ad and then when I write about it, 
TekSystems will pull the ad.

Is it because they are ashamed?
Or doing something unethical?

Anyway, you can read it for yourself if you want to and maybe even apply 
for it if you can pin them down in one place although I must warn you 
that I have applied for it and never even received a single call even 
though I'm only about 90 miles from there, which is commuting distance 
out here in the boonies.

http://keepamericaatwork.com/?p=8159

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Re: [OT] Sexual Liberation, for a price

2010-04-06 Thread Pete Theisen
Dave Crozier wrote:
 Pete,
 Seems to me that has absolutely nothing to do with sexual liberation, but
 everything to do with a lack of moral standards on behalf of the accused
 parties.
 
 Sexual liberation doesn't mean that a disregard for what is right and what
 is wrong can be forgotten. Personally I'd prosecute them to the full extent
 of the law and then some.

Hi Dave,

I guess tongue in cheek doesn't make it in email subjects. Hard to 
believe that it even happened.

Of course, the older ones were no doubt drinking, doing drugs and all 
that. In that environment people who normally have little judgment have 
no judgment.

 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/01/AR2010040101
 526.html
 
 Chris Christie called the incident deplorable. OK, that's a start.
-- 
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Re: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job

2010-04-06 Thread Pete Theisen
Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
 I'm going to post this here because a lot of you make your living via 
 Foxpro jobs and I believe you will find interesting whatever is going on 
 here.
 
 I'm not sure why they will post the ad and then when I write about it, 
 TekSystems will pull the ad.
 
 Is it because they are ashamed?
 Or doing something unethical?
 
 Anyway, you can read it for yourself if you want to and maybe even apply 
 for it if you can pin them down in one place although I must warn you 
 that I have applied for it and never even received a single call even 
 though I'm only about 90 miles from there, which is commuting distance 
 out here in the boonies.
 
 http://keepamericaatwork.com/?p=8159
 

Hi Virgil,

At some level they should be ashamed, but the feeling of shame will pass 
in a minute or two as they contemplate their next score. I imagine that 
they are a headhunter or an advertiser and they operate mostly via media.

Their sigline included a physical address, but most business is over the 
phone, mail or the web?
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Pete
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RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread Jarvis, Matthew
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 On Behalf Of James E Harvey
 Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 11:51 AM
 To: profoxt...@leafe.com
 Subject: [NF] web site's browser compatibility
 
 Has anyone seen a standard recommendation on how many browsers and how
far
 back a web site should allow for?
 
 Is something like this normal?
 
 IE 8
 IE 7 (?)
 IE 6 (?)
 
 FireFox
 
 Chrome
 
 Safari
 
 Opera
 
 Do you feel that you're not professional if your web site doesn't
support
 Safari or Opera?

Does this site help you?

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp


No matter how many versions of browsers you try and account for, there's
*some* bozo out there still running Netscape 1.1 or something...

Thanks,
 
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IT Department
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Re: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job

2010-04-06 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
close, but no cigar..

headhunters work on relationships..

they build relationships with clients and they build relationships with 
developers that can fill those clients needs..

Now TekSystems is one of the biggest as I believe they gobbled up 
MaximGroup and others to become so.

Since you've never worked in the biz, you might not find it interesting, 
but I do, especially when you take a government contract here in texas..

I received quite a few emails from American recruiters and they stated 
that they were glad to see me writing articles about stuff like this, 
which makes me think its more widespread then I even knew.


On 4/6/2010 7:25 AM, Pete Theisen wrote:
 Virgil Bierschwale wrote:

 I'm going to post this here because a lot of you make your living via
 Foxpro jobs and I believe you will find interesting whatever is going on
 here.

 I'm not sure why they will post the ad and then when I write about it,
 TekSystems will pull the ad.

 Is it because they are ashamed?
 Or doing something unethical?

 Anyway, you can read it for yourself if you want to and maybe even apply
 for it if you can pin them down in one place although I must warn you
 that I have applied for it and never even received a single call even
 though I'm only about 90 miles from there, which is commuting distance
 out here in the boonies.

 http://keepamericaatwork.com/?p=8159

  
 Hi Virgil,

 At some level they should be ashamed, but the feeling of shame will pass
 in a minute or two as they contemplate their next score. I imagine that
 they are a headhunter or an advertiser and they operate mostly via media.

 Their sigline included a physical address, but most business is over the
 phone, mail or the web?




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Re: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job

2010-04-06 Thread Pete Theisen
Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
 close, but no cigar..
 
 headhunters work on relationships..

Hi Virgil,

You wish, or you believe their Kool-aid. Headhunters work on numbers.

A fair few of them strike a kickback deal with an insider to churn 
positions. They work the placed person 89 days and fire him/her. The fee 
is due yet the placed persons have no recourse, can draw no benefits 
etc., etc.

Oh, I forgot. You are still the idealistic kid :-)
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Re: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job

2010-04-06 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
maybe so...
but ideas are what makes us different..

On 4/6/2010 7:50 AM, Pete Theisen wrote:
 Virgil Bierschwale wrote:

 close, but no cigar..

 headhunters work on relationships..
  
 Hi Virgil,

 You wish, or you believe their Kool-aid. Headhunters work on numbers.

 A fair few of them strike a kickback deal with an insider to churn
 positions. They work the placed person 89 days and fire him/her. The fee
 is due yet the placed persons have no recourse, can draw no benefits
 etc., etc.

 Oh, I forgot. You are still the idealistic kid :-)




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Re: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job

2010-04-06 Thread Pete Theisen
Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
 maybe so...
 but ideas are what makes us different..

Hi Virgil,

It would be nice if they really did work on relationships. They *can*, 
but it is uncommon.

Imagine some 20 year old chick in Bangalore with two kids clutching her 
skirts and another one strapped to her waist shouldering a cell phone 
while she fixes a snack for the brood, talking to an employer - in Texas 
- and she finds *you* a job with that employer!

Would you refuse the job because a low-fee home-working Indian found it 
for you? Should she get her fee? Would your job be subject to import 
duty? Modern problem!

 close, but no cigar..

 headhunters work on relationships..

 You wish, or you believe their Kool-aid. Headhunters work on numbers.

 A fair few of them strike a kickback deal with an insider to churn
 positions. They work the placed person 89 days and fire him/her. The fee
 is due yet the placed persons have no recourse, can draw no benefits
 etc., etc.

 Oh, I forgot. You are still the idealistic kid :-)
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RE: Automated test harness for VFP apps

2010-04-06 Thread Tracy Pearson
MB Software Solutions,  LLC wrote on 2010-04-05: 
 I don't think they exist, but our Q/C group is asking.  So I google
 and found this:
 
 Visual FoxPro 8.0: Using the Automated Test Harness
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa977109%28VS.71%29.aspx
 
 Anyone ever use this or some other automated test harness device for
 helping to test your VFP applications?


I've not used that specifically, and only touched FoxUnit occasionally.
http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~UnitTesting


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Re: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job

2010-04-06 Thread Nicholas Geti
The article was well-written. It is interesting that the job ad was pulled 
so fast. Sounds like a fake but I cannot think of any thing that the 
recruiter can gain by posting fake ads.

I wonder how much reach KeepAmericaAtWork has.

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To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
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Subject: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job


 I'm going to post this here because a lot of you make your living via
 Foxpro jobs and I believe you will find interesting whatever is going on
 here.

 I'm not sure why they will post the ad and then when I write about it,
 TekSystems will pull the ad.

 Is it because they are ashamed?
 Or doing something unethical?

 Anyway, you can read it for yourself if you want to and maybe even apply
 for it if you can pin them down in one place although I must warn you
 that I have applied for it and never even received a single call even
 though I'm only about 90 miles from there, which is commuting distance
 out here in the boonies.

 http://keepamericaatwork.com/?p=8159

 -- 
 Virgil Bierschwale
 Vets Finding Vets http://www.VetsFindingVets.org
 Keep America At Work http://www.KeepAmericaAtWork.com




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Re: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job

2010-04-06 Thread Pete Theisen
Nicholas Geti wrote:
 The article was well-written. It is interesting that the job ad was pulled 
 so fast. Sounds like a fake but I cannot think of any thing that the 
 recruiter can gain by posting fake ads.

Hi Nicholas,

Sometimes the employer just wants to look at some resumes, or wants to 
put the fear of god into present employees.
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Re: Automated test harness for VFP apps

2010-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Dave Crozier wrote:
 Mike,
 If you remember back to Foxforward then Alan Stevens was heavily involved in
 VFP testing frameworks and gave a session on VFP harnesses.. It may well be
 useful to give him a call. 
 
 http://netcave.org/


Hi Dave,

I thought of that initially, but that was Alan's TDD (Test Driven 
Development) that required you to write your code in a certain fashion. 
  This app is over 15 years old and written in traditional monolithic 
foxpro fashion.  Or am I misunderstanding how Alan's TDD could be used here?

-- 
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MB Software Solutions, LLC
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Re: Automated test harness for VFP apps

2010-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Tracy Pearson wrote:
 MB Software Solutions,LLC wrote on 2010-04-05: 
 I don't think they exist, but our Q/C group is asking.  So I google
 and found this:

 Visual FoxPro 8.0: Using the Automated Test Harness
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa977109%28VS.71%29.aspx

 Anyone ever use this or some other automated test harness device for
 helping to test your VFP applications?

 
 I've not used that specifically, and only touched FoxUnit occasionally.
 http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~UnitTesting

from the link:

Alan uses a highly customized version of FoxUnit for his test-driven 
development that he will also be using for his session at the conference.

So integrating this into this old app might be a hefty challenge?

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Re: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job

2010-04-06 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Bout 5 page vierws fropm 183 countries
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:19:38 
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The article was well-written. It is interesting that the job ad was pulled 
so fast. Sounds like a fake but I cannot think of any thing that the 
recruiter can gain by posting fake ads.

I wonder how much reach KeepAmericaAtWork has.

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 I'm going to post this here because a lot of you make your living via
 Foxpro jobs and I believe you will find interesting whatever is going on
 here.

 I'm not sure why they will post the ad and then when I write about it,
 TekSystems will pull the ad.

 Is it because they are ashamed?
 Or doing something unethical?

 Anyway, you can read it for yourself if you want to and maybe even apply
 for it if you can pin them down in one place although I must warn you
 that I have applied for it and never even received a single call even
 though I'm only about 90 miles from there, which is commuting distance
 out here in the boonies.

 http://keepamericaatwork.com/?p=8159

 -- 
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 Vets Finding Vets http://www.VetsFindingVets.org
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Re: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job

2010-04-06 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Whern it destroys the econmy tha( kreps our country and ourt towns runnming 
there is no quesdtiopn in my mind
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Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
 maybe so...
 but ideas are what makes us different..

Hi Virgil,

It would be nice if they really did work on relationships. They *can*, 
but it is uncommon.

Imagine some 20 year old chick in Bangalore with two kids clutching her 
skirts and another one strapped to her waist shouldering a cell phone 
while she fixes a snack for the brood, talking to an employer - in Texas 
- and she finds *you* a job with that employer!

Would you refuse the job because a low-fee home-working Indian found it 
for you? Should she get her fee? Would your job be subject to import 
duty? Modern problem!

 close, but no cigar..

 headhunters work on relationships..

 You wish, or you believe their Kool-aid. Headhunters work on numbers.

 A fair few of them strike a kickback deal with an insider to churn
 positions. They work the placed person 89 days and fire him/her. The fee
 is due yet the placed persons have no recourse, can draw no benefits
 etc., etc.

 Oh, I forgot. You are still the idealistic kid :-)
-- 
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Re: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job

2010-04-06 Thread Pete Theisen
Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
 Whern it destroys the econmy tha( kreps our country and ourt towns runnming 
 there is no quesdtiopn in my mind

Hi Virgil,

What? Visiting in person with Leland?
-- 
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[OT] MICHELE OBAMA ADMITS THAT BARACK WAS BORN IN KENYA

2010-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
IMPEACH THE KENYAN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBJihJBePcsfeature=player_embedded

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RE: Caption Exe File others vfp

2010-04-06 Thread vcwalet
because, I am again working on filling the project document, where every file 
that I run it will be run in the form that I created, I found the site 
http://www.news2news.com/vfp/?example=27function=40, only displays all active 
on the desktop, which wants to display files that I run
Please help.

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Re: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job

2010-04-06 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Driving
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:45:03 
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Subject: Re: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job

Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
 Whern it destroys the econmy tha( kreps our country and ourt towns runnming 
 there is no quesdtiopn in my mind

Hi Virgil,

What? Visiting in person with Leland?
-- 
Regards,

Pete
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Re: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job

2010-04-06 Thread Pete Theisen
Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
 Driving
 Sent from my BlackBerry® Smartphone by WCW

Hi Virgil,

Wait until you stop, then. Your response could not be understood due to 
errors.

 What? Visiting in person with Leland?
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Re: [OT] MICHELE OBAMA ADMITS THAT BARACK WAS BORN IN KENYA

2010-04-06 Thread Pete Theisen
Michael Madigan wrote:
 IMPEACH THE KENYAN
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBJihJBePcsfeature=player_embedded

Hi Michael,

No. They are already explaining it away and the press is 1000% for him.
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RE: Report Writer bug FIXED!!!

2010-04-06 Thread jerryF
This has bitten me several times. Great job Doug. Does anyone know where I
should put the recompiled app?
Thanks jerry

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Subject: Report Writer bug FIXED!!!

A while ago I posted a message about the fact that in VFP9 the report writer
seems to randomly set the Save Printer Environment  option in the report
whenever a new font is selected for a text field. I had been meaning to look
at a solution but Doug Hennig has beaten me to it and posted a fix.

http://doughennig.blogspot.com/2010/03/fixing-report-designer-bug.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/ykukhhe

Another one less job to do!.

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RE: Report Writer bug FIXED!!!

2010-04-06 Thread Dave Crozier
Jerry,
Put it into the Main Program Files VFP Folder and rename the old version.

Dave C

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This has bitten me several times. Great job Doug. Does anyone know where I
should put the recompiled app?
Thanks jerry

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A while ago I posted a message about the fact that in VFP9 the report writer
seems to randomly set the Save Printer Environment  option in the report
whenever a new font is selected for a text field. I had been meaning to look
at a solution but Doug Hennig has beaten me to it and posted a fix.

http://doughennig.blogspot.com/2010/03/fixing-report-designer-bug.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/ykukhhe

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RE: Automated test harness for VFP apps

2010-04-06 Thread Tracy Pearson
MB Software Solutions,  LLC wrote on 2010-04-06: 
 Tracy Pearson wrote:
 MB Software Solutions,   LLC wrote on 2010-04-05:
 I don't think they exist, but our Q/C group is asking.  So I google
 and found this:
 
 Visual FoxPro 8.0: Using the Automated Test Harness
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa977109%28VS.71%29.aspx
 
 Anyone ever use this or some other automated test harness device
 for helping to test your VFP applications?
 
 
 I've not used that specifically, and only touched FoxUnit occasionally.
 http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~UnitTesting
 
 from the link:
 
 Alan uses a highly customized version of FoxUnit for his test-driven
 development that he will also be using for his session at the
 conference.
 
 So integrating this into this old app might be a hefty challenge?


I've always had a challenge with using it here because there is some work
involved to go back and write tests for existing code. If I really wanted to
use it I would make the time to build tests before changing any code. When
you starting new code, it is easy to justify writing tests before code.


Tracy Pearson
PowerChurch Software




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Re: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job

2010-04-06 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
On 04/06/2010 08:45 AM, Pete Theisen wrote:
 Virgil Bierschwale wrote:

 Whern it destroys the econmy tha( kreps our country and ourt towns runnming 
 there is no quesdtiopn in my mind
  
 Hi Virgil,

 What? Visiting in person with Leland?


HaHaaHaaaHa.  Good One.

Regards,

LelandJ


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RE: Caption Exe File others vfp

2010-04-06 Thread Tracy Pearson
vcwalet wrote on 2010-03-22: 
 because, I am again working on filling the project document, where
 every file that I run it will be run in the form that I created, I
 found the site http://www.news2news.com/vfp/?example=27function=40,
 only displays all active on the desktop, which wants to display files
 that I run Please help.
 

Vcwalet,

I'm not clear about what you are asking. Are you launching your own VFP
forms in a Top-Level form and you want the captions of them? Is this for the
Window menu on the top level form?

Have a look at creating the pad _MSM_WINDO.
Have a look at using the _VFP.Forms or _Sreen.Forms collections (they behave
differently).

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Re: [NF] Blog package for internal use

2010-04-06 Thread Ted Roche
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Jarvis, Matthew mat...@mckweb.com wrote:
 I've been tasked with looking into a blog package for our muckity-mucks
 to use to share info with each other... supposedly it is for internal
 use only.

If they're potentially discussing confidential business information
(and executives have a tendency to let that kind of thing slip),
you'll want to host it on an intranet box so access from the outside
world can be blocked. Otherwise, HIPAA, SOX and other violations could
raise their ugly heads. Of course, you should anticipate that in-house
users will cut and paste the most egregious postings to
http://www.stupidmemos.com/, so have a take-down plan in place.

This is a great opportunity to get a LAMP box inhouse and get some
experience on it, if that's your interest. WordPress is a good choice,
just make sure to download the multiuser version from
http://mu.wordpress.org/

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RE: Report Writer bug FIXED!!!

2010-04-06 Thread Tracy Pearson
jerryF wrote on 2010-04-06: 
 This has bitten me several times. Great job Doug. Does anyone know
 where I should put the recompiled app?
 Thanks jerry
 
 -Original Message-
 From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On
 Behalf Of Dave Crozier
 Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 6:01 AM
 To: 'ProFox Email List'
 Subject: Report Writer bug FIXED!!!
 
 A while ago I posted a message about the fact that in VFP9 the report
 writer seems to randomly set the Save Printer Environment  option in
 the report whenever a new font is selected for a text field. I had
 been meaning to look at a solution but Doug Hennig has beaten me to it
 and posted a fix.
 
 http://doughennig.blogspot.com/2010/03/fixing-report-designer-bug.html
 
 or
 
 http://tinyurl.com/ykukhhe
 
 Another one less job to do!.
 
 Dave Crozier
 
 Office: da...@flexipol.co.uk
 Anytime: da...@replacement-software.co.uk
 

JerryF,

Place it where your _REPORTBUILDER System Memory Variable points. If you
allow users to modify reports, you'll distribute the new one too.

Tracy Pearson
PowerChurch Software




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RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread Alan Bourke


On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:08 -0500, Jarvis, Matthew mat...@mckweb.com
wrote:

 No matter how many versions of browsers you try and account for, there's
 *some* bozo out there still running Netscape 1.1 or something...

Yep - and I say screw them, you have to draw the line somewhere and for
me it would now be IE7 (in the IE world)
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[NF] Prefab - redesign any UI in any app to your needs.

2010-04-06 Thread Alan Bourke
http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/200101.asp

Pretty cool - it workds by processing the screen image, recognising
controls and redrawing them elsewhere.
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RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread Jarvis, Matthew
 -Original Message-
 From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com
[mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]
 On Behalf Of Alan Bourke
 Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 1:06 AM
 To: profoxt...@leafe.com
 Subject: Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility
 
 I'd say forget about IE6. No reason anyone should still be using it,
 unless they have a particularly dumb corporate or institutional IT
 department, or a load of applications that require it.
 --

Um... I checked and yes, our default browser is IE6

I'm a bit surprised our corp overseers haven't noticed me using Firefox
all the time... plus they'd prolly freak if they knew how many times
I've been to DistroWatch  g

Thanks,
 
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Re: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job

2010-04-06 Thread Nicholas Geti
Neither reason is good for the company.

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 Nicholas Geti wrote:
 The article was well-written. It is interesting that the job ad was 
 pulled
 so fast. Sounds like a fake but I cannot think of any thing that the
 recruiter can gain by posting fake ads.

 Hi Nicholas,

 Sometimes the employer just wants to look at some resumes, or wants to
 put the fear of god into present employees.
 -- 
 Regards,

 Pete
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 http://elect-pete-theisen.com/

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Re: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job

2010-04-06 Thread Nicholas Geti
You will have to improve your finger dexterity.

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there is no quesdtiopn in my mind
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RE: [NF] Blog package for internal use

2010-04-06 Thread Jarvis, Matthew
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[mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]
 On Behalf Of Ted Roche
 Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 7:34 AM
 To: profoxt...@leafe.com
 Subject: Re: [NF] Blog package for internal use
 
 
 If they're potentially discussing confidential business information
 (and executives have a tendency to let that kind of thing slip),
 you'll want to host it on an intranet box so access from the outside
 world can be blocked. Otherwise, HIPAA, SOX and other violations could
 raise their ugly heads. 

snipped

Yes, the HIPAA thing occurred to me and I thought I should focus on
finding an internal app to run.

Set up WordPress on my own machine - really straighforward. Having some
problems w/ another user seeing the graphics and such from my test
postings, but I'm still working thru the docs. On my screen everything
is nice and pretty - on hers it looks like plain looking HTML kinda
stuff...

I was not aware of the MultiUser option for WordPress... I'll have to
remember that if I install this on a server in order to go live with it.

LAMP - I wish... Ironically that is where my server admin skills would
be their best I'll be lucky to find a Win2003 box to use for this...

Thanks,
 
Matthew Jarvis || Business Systems Analyst
IT Department
McKenzie-Willamette Medical Center
1460 G Street, Springfield, OR  97477 || Ph: 541-744-6092 || Fax:
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RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread Stan Gilbertson
 IE6 is the latest you can go on win2k.  Many desk system still win2k works 
fine,
upgrade when hardware not reparable.  


Stanley Gilbertson
405-831-2625
sgilberts...@sbcglobal.net 

Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right.

-- Henry Ford


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Richard Kaye
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 6:24 AM
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IE6 still has ~15% of the browser market believe it or not. 

http://tinyurl.com/yaxfm25

Having said that, a lot of relatively large sites have said they no longer
support it.

rk

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Subject: Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

I'd say forget about IE6. No reason anyone should still be using it,
unless they have a particularly dumb corporate or institutional IT
department, or a load of applications that require it.
-- 
  Alan Bourke


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Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread Ted Roche
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 2:50 PM, James E Harvey jhar...@hanoverpa.com wrote:
 Has anyone seen a standard recommendation on how many browsers and how far
 back a web site should allow for?

Sure!

Support the browsers that your customers (and potential customers) are using.

---

If you are offering a customizable, AJAX-driven, Twitter-entwined,
geolocated, cool app for customers to use on their iPhone, you can
probably drop IE4/5/6 and Netscape 4.7 support.

If you're trying to sell salvaged house hardware, you should probably
be supporting WebTV, dial-up (speed way more important that browser!),
HTML 4.01 and AOL., if that's what you find your customers are using.

If you are offering Windows-only software, perhaps you don't need to
target Safari and iPhones or Konqueror.

I build web apps for many customers, and I prefer (and primarily
target) the current and previous versions of the most popular
browsers, in order: FireFox, Internet Explorer, Safari. Acceptance
criteria varies for each of my customers: European companies might
want Opera testing, Far East firms want UTF-8 l18n, cutting edge firms
want XHTML 1.1 and CSS 2.1 or 3. That said, I target making 100% valid
code, then back off as needed for functionality. That makes the pages
viewable in the maximum variety of browser, imo.

That might take a bit of effort:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.hanoverpa.comcharset=(detect+automatically)doctype=Inlinegroup=0

And I hate to mention it last, but accessibility, testable and
verifiable, needs to be a priority for us as well.


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RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread James E Harvey
We don't support Safari, and the only feedback I've ever received was from
a web master in Canada.

It seems obvious that our business doesn't attract people using that
browser, so why should we worry, or are we losing customers?


James E Harvey
Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc.
M.I.S./Corresponding Officer
Off: 717-637-8931
fax: 717-637-6766
email: jhar...@hanoverpa.com

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On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:08 -0500, Jarvis, Matthew mat...@mckweb.com
wrote:

 No matter how many versions of browsers you try and account for, there's
 *some* bozo out there still running Netscape 1.1 or something...

Yep - and I say screw them, you have to draw the line somewhere and for
me it would now be IE7 (in the IE world)
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RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread John Weller
As I mentioned - the iPhone only supports Safari.  Do you want customers
that use the iPhone?  What about the iPad? Your call.

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631 

 
 We don't support Safari, and the only feedback I've ever received was
from
 a web master in Canada.
 
 It seems obvious that our business doesn't attract people using that
 browser, so why should we worry, or are we losing customers?
 


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Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:12 AM, John Weller j...@johnweller.co.uk wrote:
 As I mentioned - the iPhone only supports Safari.  Do you want customers
 that use the iPhone?  What about the iPad? Your call.
-

His pages work on my iPhone.  Looking at 2010 Foals by Sire.


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RE: Automated test harness for VFP apps

2010-04-06 Thread Rick Schummer
 Anyone ever use this or some other automated test harness device for 
helping to test your VFP applications?

I tested it extensively in the VFP betas and it rarely worked. At one point
an XP update broke it, and it was not easily fixed or never fixed (not
sure). As you might have guessed, I gave up on it. g

Fox Runner is the other tool I have heard of, but I have not tried it.

http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~VFPAutomatedTesting


Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

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RE: [NF] Blog package for internal use

2010-04-06 Thread Rick Schummer
 I've been tasked with looking into a blog package for our muckity-mucks
to use to share info with each other... supposedly it is for internal
use only.

It almost sounds like might want to check into setting up a wiki instead of
a blog. There are tons of wikis depending on your infrastructure and needs.
Most support a security system to create and edit a document vs. read-only
vs. cannot see at all. Maybe it makes sense to implement vs. a blog which is
really write once and is not designed so much for collaboration unless
comments are the approach used for collaboration.

Rick
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Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread Ted Roche
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:07 PM, James E Harvey jhar...@hanoverpa.com wrote:
 We don't support Safari, and the only feedback I've ever received was from
 a web master in Canada.

That sentence ought to sound as weird as our parking lot only
supports Fords. We don't support customers using Chevy in our lots.

What kind of Support do you expect you need? If you write legitimate
HTML, it should be viewable in all browsers.

And you can test browser support even if you don't have those browsers.

 It seems obvious that our business doesn't attract people using that
 browser, so why should we worry, or are we losing customers?

How is it obvious? Do you collect stats on your site? How do you know
what percent of your users are using which browser?

I had a client who insisted that his site didn't need to be tested in
Safari because none of his customers had Macs. I showed him how his
site was _unusuable_ in Safari, and explained that's why he didn't
have any Mac-using clients.

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RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread James E Harvey
I'm afraid to state that we're still using FrontPage 2003 as our editor. I
know it's truly embarrassing.

We are looking at Dreamweaver, but I think we need to move our web site
first, from Comcast to maybe Godaddy.  Comcast is our ISP and hosts our web
site, but the site is now actually on Hostway's servers although they won't
give us support.  It's all a big mess!

James E Harvey
Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc.
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Off: 717-637-8931
fax: 717-637-6766
email: jhar...@hanoverpa.com


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Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:07 PM, James E Harvey jhar...@hanoverpa.com
wrote:
 We don't support Safari, and the only feedback I've ever received was
from
 a web master in Canada.

That sentence ought to sound as weird as our parking lot only
supports Fords. We don't support customers using Chevy in our lots.

What kind of Support do you expect you need? If you write legitimate
HTML, it should be viewable in all browsers.

And you can test browser support even if you don't have those browsers.

 It seems obvious that our business doesn't attract people using that
 browser, so why should we worry, or are we losing customers?

How is it obvious? Do you collect stats on your site? How do you know
what percent of your users are using which browser?

I had a client who insisted that his site didn't need to be tested in
Safari because none of his customers had Macs. I showed him how his
site was _unusuable_ in Safari, and explained that's why he didn't
have any Mac-using clients.

-- 
Ted Roche
Ted Roche  Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com

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[OT] Safest states

2010-04-06 Thread Nicholas Geti
Interesting comment in this list of safest states to live. 
http://www.walletpop.com/insurance/safest-states
 Montana is the 6th safest. Some people say it is due to so many guns that keep 
criminals at bay.


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Re: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job

2010-04-06 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
naw, just quit reading profox when driving grin


On 4/6/2010 10:40 AM, Nicholas Geti wrote:
 You will have to improve your finger dexterity.

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RE: [OT] MICHELE OBAMA ADMITS THAT BARACK WAS BORN IN KENYA

2010-04-06 Thread Gary Jeurink
You are so very sad! 

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To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: [OT] MICHELE OBAMA ADMITS THAT BARACK WAS BORN IN KENYA

IMPEACH THE KENYAN

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Re: [OT] Safest states

2010-04-06 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Nicholas Geti ng...@optonline.net wrote:
 Interesting comment in this list of safest states to live. 
 http://www.walletpop.com/insurance/safest-states
  Montana is the 6th safest. Some people say it is due to so many guns that 
 keep criminals at bay.
-

Funny how all the good states have a winter season.  That means that
the weather is frigid for 2 - 3 - 4 months.  Evil people are not that
stupid.  If it is tooo damn cold outside they don't hang out,
outside.



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Re: Caption Exe File others vfp

2010-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Tracy Pearson wrote:
snipped
 Have a look at using the _VFP.Forms or _Sreen.Forms collections (they behave
 differently).


What's the difference?

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Re: [OT] Safest states

2010-04-06 Thread Nicholas Geti
Good point. Also I suspect population density has a lot to do with it. 
Montana is bitter in the winter.

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On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Nicholas Geti ng...@optonline.net wrote:
 Interesting comment in this list of safest states to live. 
 http://www.walletpop.com/insurance/safest-states
 Montana is the 6th safest. Some people say it is due to so many guns that 
 keep criminals at bay.
-

Funny how all the good states have a winter season.  That means that
the weather is frigid for 2 - 3 - 4 months.  Evil people are not that
stupid.  If it is tooo damn cold outside they don't hang out,
outside.



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Re: Report Writer bug FIXED!!!

2010-04-06 Thread Sytze de Boer
I've followed the instructions and now have an APP file which is 722 Kb
The original is 892
I'm too scared to replace the old one

S





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 jerryF wrote on 2010-04-06:
  This has bitten me several times. Great job Doug. Does anyone know
  where I should put the recompiled app?
  Thanks jerry
 
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  Subject: Report Writer bug FIXED!!!
 
  A while ago I posted a message about the fact that in VFP9 the report
  writer seems to randomly set the Save Printer Environment  option in
  the report whenever a new font is selected for a text field. I had
  been meaning to look at a solution but Doug Hennig has beaten me to it
  and posted a fix.
 
  http://doughennig.blogspot.com/2010/03/fixing-report-designer-bug.html
 
  or
 
  http://tinyurl.com/ykukhhe
 
  Another one less job to do!.
 
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[NF] do you work with people who want social media or are afraid of it?

2010-04-06 Thread Stephen Russell
http://features.bizmore.com/blog/workforce-trends/businesses-slow-to-embrace-social-media



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PEM editor

2010-04-06 Thread Sytze de Boer
I've read some great reviews about this product but I'm a little worried
about one aspect.
If I'm too grey for this product, is it easy to revert and un-install?

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SQL Select and $ operator

2010-04-06 Thread msavage
I need to look in a field for a string... you sort of locate for string $
field.

How do I do the same thing in an sql select statement.
Mike



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Re: PEM editor

2010-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Sytze de Boer wrote:
 I've read some great reviews about this product but I'm a little worried
 about one aspect.
 If I'm too grey for this product, is it easy to revert and un-install?
 


You will LOVE the new PEMEditor from VFPX.  It is absolutely awesome. 
I'm not sure how you can undo it, but I don't think you'll want to.

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Re: SQL Select and $ operator

2010-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
msav...@golden.net wrote:
 I need to look in a field for a string... you sort of locate for string $
 field.
 
 How do I do the same thing in an sql select statement.
 Mike


select iid, cname from mytable where cname like '%somethinginsidefield%'
select iid, cname from mytable where cname like 'startswiththis%'
select iid, cname from mytable where cname like '%endswiththis'

Use the % character as a mask.

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RE: Caption Exe File others vfp

2010-04-06 Thread Tracy Pearson
MB Software Solutions,  LLC wrote on 2010-04-06: 
 Tracy Pearson wrote:
 snipped
 Have a look at using the _VFP.Forms or _Sreen.Forms collections
 (they behave differently).
 
 
 What's the difference?


_VFP.Forms has a Count property, _Screen.Forms does not. That's a start. 
I believe you need to use either a ForEach (never got past that dangling
reference I got with that so I don't use it) or a For ii = 1 to
_Screen.FormCount. Where the _VFP.Forms.Count is where you go. Since that's
a major difference in the interface, I'm sure there's other layers of
complexity.

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ForEach and With..EndWith dangling references could cause C5's

2010-04-06 Thread Tracy Pearson
Mike,

Thanks for making me think about ForEach. I have been having a C5 in some
code, made me look at it. I recall testing the ForEach during the time I
wrote that code. What I've found is a WITH ... ENDWITH construct that jumps
out to a couple of different forms and comes back. Things become unstable
and unpredictable when one does not successfully return inside of the WITH
... ENDWIDTH. It's better to avoid jumping out to another method or object.

Tracy



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RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread Kurt Wendt
Interesting webpage! It sure seems to show that FireFox has been
seriously kicking butt in the past few years. Its been my Browser of
choice for YEARS now - with Mozilla prior to that. But, very
occasionally I will have a problem with a site - and will switch over to
IE to view it...

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On Behalf Of Jarvis, Matthew
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 2:09 PM

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 From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com
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 On Behalf Of James E Harvey
 Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 11:51 AM
 
 Has anyone seen a standard recommendation on how many browsers and how
far
 back a web site should allow for?
 
 Is something like this normal?
 
 IE 8
 IE 7 (?)
 IE 6 (?)
 
 FireFox
 Chrome
 Safari
 Opera
 Do you feel that you're not professional if your web site doesn't
support
 Safari or Opera?

Does this site help you?

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp


No matter how many versions of browsers you try and account for, there's
*some* bozo out there still running Netscape 1.1 or something...

Thanks,
 
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Re: [OT] Safest states

2010-04-06 Thread Ken Kixmoeller f/h
Stephen Russell wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Nicholas Geti ng...@optonline.net wrote:
 Interesting comment in this list of safest states to live. 
 http://www.walletpop.com/insurance/safest-states
  Montana is the 6th safest. Some people say it is due to so many guns that 
 keep criminals at bay.
 -
 
 Funny how all the good states have a winter season.  That means that
 the weather is frigid for 2 - 3 - 4 months.  Evil people are not that
 stupid.  If it is tooo damn cold outside they don't hang out,
 outside.

In MN you can feel that easily. I walk the family dog every night, and 
if it is cold or rainy, it is quiet and peaceful. As soon as it turns 
warm, suddenly there are engines roaring and sirens wailing all over my 
range of hearing.

Ken

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Why would this COPY TO fail if the file already exists?

2010-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
(VFPSP1)
* lcfile gets set in code above this...and is a valid filename.
copy to (lcFile) Delimited with Tab

This line works as long as there's no file already existing.  If the 
file exists, it throws Error 202 (Invalid path or filename).

Is there a way to force it to overwrite without me having to check for 
the existence of the file and delete if existing?


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Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread Ken Kixmoeller f/h
James E Harvey wrote:
 We don't support Safari, and the only feedback I've ever received was from
 a web master in Canada.
 
 It seems obvious that our business doesn't attract people using that
 browser, so why should we worry, or are we losing customers?

Yeah, screw those folks that don't use *my* browser! Who needs 'em 
anyway? Apple types are all fanatical idiots anyway, so we don't want 
*their* money.

Boy, that's my kind of company!

Ken

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RE: PEM editor

2010-04-06 Thread Rick Schummer
 If I'm too grey for this product, is it easy to revert and
un-install?

Yes, it comes with uninstall_pemeditor.prg

Rick
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Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread Paul Hill
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Ken Kixmoeller f/h
foxh...@information-architecture.com wrote:
 James E Harvey wrote:
 We don't support Safari, and the only feedback I've ever received was from
 a web master in Canada.

 It seems obvious that our business doesn't attract people using that
 browser, so why should we worry, or are we losing customers?

 Yeah, screw those folks that don't use *my* browser! Who needs 'em
 anyway? Apple types are all fanatical idiots anyway, so we don't want
 *their* money.

If you're selling Windows software that is probably true...

The problem is, if it doesn't work in Safari, there's a good chance it
won't work in Chrome as they use the same rendering engine, webkit.

Personally I don't like Chrome, but Google have been heavily
advertising their browser so I expect their market share to increase.
I've seen full page ads in the UK national papers.

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Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Ken Kixmoeller f/h wrote:
 James E Harvey wrote:
 We don't support Safari, and the only feedback I've ever received was from
 a web master in Canada.

 It seems obvious that our business doesn't attract people using that
 browser, so why should we worry, or are we losing customers?
 
 Yeah, screw those folks that don't use *my* browser! Who needs 'em 
 anyway? Apple types are all fanatical idiots anyway, so we don't want 
 *their* money.
 
 Boy, that's my kind of company!


LOL!

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Re: SQL Select and $ operator

2010-04-06 Thread msavage
Just to clarify if mytable contains a record with a value of '12345678' in
the cname field and i'm looking for '45'

the select statement would be
select iid, cname from mytable where cname like '45' it will return the
record described above?

i.e. any record with '45' in the cname field...  strings like '45678',
'9456'.

Thanks
Mike

 msav...@golden.net wrote:
 I need to look in a field for a string... you sort of locate for string
 $
 field.

 How do I do the same thing in an sql select statement.
 Mike


 select iid, cname from mytable where cname like '%somethinginsidefield%'
 select iid, cname from mytable where cname like 'startswiththis%'
 select iid, cname from mytable where cname like '%endswiththis'

 Use the % character as a mask.

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 President, Chief Software Architect
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RE: Why would this COPY TO fail if the file already exists?

2010-04-06 Thread Richard Kaye
set safety off?

rk


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Subject: Why would this COPY TO fail if the file already exists?

(VFPSP1)
* lcfile gets set in code above this...and is a valid filename.
copy to (lcFile) Delimited with Tab

This line works as long as there's no file already existing.  If the 
file exists, it throws Error 202 (Invalid path or filename).

Is there a way to force it to overwrite without me having to check for 
the existence of the file and delete if existing?


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Re: SQL Select and $ operator

2010-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
msav...@golden.net wrote:
 Just to clarify if mytable contains a record with a value of '12345678' in
 the cname field and i'm looking for '45'
 
 the select statement would be
 select iid, cname from mytable where cname like '45' it will return the
 record described above?
 
 i.e. any record with '45' in the cname field...  strings like '45678',
 '9456'.


No, not , but %.

select iid, cname from mytable where cname like '%45%' into cursor 
TheResultsYouWant


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RE: SQL Select and $ operator

2010-04-06 Thread Richard Kaye
You can use VFP SQL syntax - '45'$cname or you can use ANSI SQL syntax - cname 
like '%45%'. Note that you need the % wild card on both sides of the substring 
you're looking for.

rk


-Original Message-
From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On 
Behalf Of msav...@golden.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 5:52 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: SQL Select and $ operator

Just to clarify if mytable contains a record with a value of '12345678' in
the cname field and i'm looking for '45'

the select statement would be
select iid, cname from mytable where cname like '45' it will return the
record described above?

i.e. any record with '45' in the cname field...  strings like '45678',
'9456'.

Thanks
Mike


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Re: Report Writer bug FIXED!!!

2010-04-06 Thread Fred Taylor
I just did mine and it came out the same 892K in size.  Did you open the
project in the ReportBuilder folder under
...\xSource\VFPSource\ReportBuilder\reportbuilder.PJX and build the .APP?

Fred


On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Sytze de Boer sytze.k...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've followed the instructions and now have an APP file which is 722 Kb
 The original is 892
 I'm too scared to replace the old one

 S





 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Tracy Pearson tr...@powerchurch.com
 wrote:

  jerryF wrote on 2010-04-06:
   This has bitten me several times. Great job Doug. Does anyone know
   where I should put the recompiled app?
   Thanks jerry
  
   -Original Message-
   From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On
   Behalf Of Dave Crozier
   Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 6:01 AM
   To: 'ProFox Email List'
   Subject: Report Writer bug FIXED!!!
  
   A while ago I posted a message about the fact that in VFP9 the report
   writer seems to randomly set the Save Printer Environment  option in
   the report whenever a new font is selected for a text field. I had
   been meaning to look at a solution but Doug Hennig has beaten me to it
   and posted a fix.
  
   http://doughennig.blogspot.com/2010/03/fixing-report-designer-bug.html
  
   or
  
   http://tinyurl.com/ykukhhe
  
   Another one less job to do!.
  
   Dave Crozier
  
   Office: da...@flexipol.co.uk
   Anytime: da...@replacement-software.co.uk
  
 
  JerryF,
 
  Place it where your _REPORTBUILDER System Memory Variable points. If you
  allow users to modify reports, you'll distribute the new one too.
 
  Tracy Pearson
  PowerChurch Software
 
 
 
 
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RE: Why would this COPY TO fail if the file already exists?

2010-04-06 Thread Tracy Pearson
MB Software Solutions,  LLC wrote on 2010-04-06: 
 (VFPSP1)
 * lcfile gets set in code above this...and is a valid filename.
 copy to (lcFile) Delimited with Tab
 
 This line works as long as there's no file already existing.  If the
 file exists, it throws Error 202 (Invalid path or filename).
 
 Is there a way to force it to overwrite without me having to check for
 the existence of the file and delete if existing?
 


If the file open by say Excel, you'll get something like this.


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Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Ken Kixmoeller f/h
foxh...@information-architecture.com wrote:
 James E Harvey wrote:
 We don't support Safari, and the only feedback I've ever received was from
 a web master in Canada.

 It seems obvious that our business doesn't attract people using that
 browser, so why should we worry, or are we losing customers?

 Yeah, screw those folks that don't use *my* browser! Who needs 'em
 anyway? Apple types are all fanatical idiots anyway, so we don't want
 *their* money.

 Boy, that's my kind of company!
-

 IE9  IE9  IE9

You heard it here folks.  9 is coming your way and it is faster and
beter then 8 and or 7.


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RE: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread James E Harvey
Well, it's not that we want to run them off, or don't appreciate their
business, on the contrary, we just don't know how to go about creating a web
site that will work for all browsers.

James E Harvey
Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc.
M.I.S./Corresponding Officer
Off: 717-637-8931
fax: 717-637-6766
email: jhar...@hanoverpa.com


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To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

James E Harvey wrote:
 We don't support Safari, and the only feedback I've ever received was
from
 a web master in Canada.
 
 It seems obvious that our business doesn't attract people using that
 browser, so why should we worry, or are we losing customers?

Yeah, screw those folks that don't use *my* browser! Who needs 'em 
anyway? Apple types are all fanatical idiots anyway, so we don't want 
*their* money.

Boy, that's my kind of company!

Ken

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Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Stephen Russell wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Ken Kixmoeller f/h
 foxh...@information-architecture.com wrote:
 James E Harvey wrote:
 We don't support Safari, and the only feedback I've ever received was from
 a web master in Canada.

 It seems obvious that our business doesn't attract people using that
 browser, so why should we worry, or are we losing customers?
 Yeah, screw those folks that don't use *my* browser! Who needs 'em
 anyway? Apple types are all fanatical idiots anyway, so we don't want
 *their* money.

 Boy, that's my kind of company!
 -
 
  IE9  IE9  IE9
 
 You heard it here folks.  9 is coming your way and it is faster and
 beter then 8 and or 7.


LOL!  When would the latest version of anything be slower?  Oh 
wait...Vista.  gdr

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Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread Andrew Stirling
I hear it does not work in XP.

Andrew Stirling
01250 874580
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HMRC Accredited UK payroll program

On 07/04/2010 00:10, Stephen Russell wrote:

 -

   IE9  IE9  IE9

 You heard it here folks.  9 is coming your way and it is faster and
 beter then 8 and or 7.



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Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread Stephen Russell
XP isn't that two versions back now?

Hehehehehe.

Sent from my iPhone
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On Apr 6, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Andrew Stirling supp...@calcpay.co.uk  
wrote:

 I hear it does not work in XP.

 Andrew Stirling
 01250 874580
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 On 07/04/2010 00:10, Stephen Russell wrote:

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  IE9  IE9  IE9

 You heard it here folks.  9 is coming your way and it is faster and
 beter then 8 and or 7.



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Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

2010-04-06 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
seems like w3schools.com has info on that..

On 4/6/2010 7:52 PM, James E Harvey wrote:
 Well, it's not that we want to run them off, or don't appreciate their
 business, on the contrary, we just don't know how to go about creating a web
 site that will work for all browsers.

 James E Harvey
 Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc.
 M.I.S./Corresponding Officer
 Off: 717-637-8931
 fax: 717-637-6766
 email: jhar...@hanoverpa.com


 -Original Message-
 From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
 Of Ken Kixmoeller f/h
 Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 4:38 PM
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: Re: [NF] web site's browser compatibility

 James E Harvey wrote:

 We don't support Safari, and the only feedback I've ever received was
  
 from

 a web master in Canada.

 It seems obvious that our business doesn't attract people using that
 browser, so why should we worry, or are we losing customers?
  
 Yeah, screw those folks that don't use *my* browser! Who needs 'em
 anyway? Apple types are all fanatical idiots anyway, so we don't want
 *their* money.

 Boy, that's my kind of company!

 Ken

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Re: SQL Select and $ operator

2010-04-06 Thread Ted Roche
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:34 PM,  msav...@golden.net wrote:

 I need to look in a field for a string... you sort of locate for string $
 field.

 How do I do the same thing in an sql select statement.

SELECT fieldlist FROM tablename WHERE fieldname LIKE %string%

Use % as wildcard for zero or more, ? for one unknown character.


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RE: Why would this COPY TO fail if the file already exists?

2010-04-06 Thread Anthony J. Gundrum
I normally will do a SET SAFETY OFF before and then a SET SAFETY ON after
the COPY TO

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Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 17:37
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Why would this COPY TO fail if the file already exists?

(VFPSP1)
* lcfile gets set in code above this...and is a valid filename.
copy to (lcFile) Delimited with Tab

This line works as long as there's no file already existing.  If the 
file exists, it throws Error 202 (Invalid path or filename).

Is there a way to force it to overwrite without me having to check for 
the existence of the file and delete if existing?


-- 
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Re: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job

2010-04-06 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
based on the fact that the texas dept of info resources also looked at 
the ad, my assumption is that it wasn't supposed to even be posted 
because they have to go through a bid process.

I could be wrong, but with the people I've noticed looking at it via 
google analytics, something wasn't on the up and up.

On 4/6/2010 8:19 AM, Nicholas Geti wrote:
 The article was well-written. It is interesting that the job ad was pulled
 so fast. Sounds like a fake but I cannot think of any thing that the
 recruiter can gain by posting fake ads.

 I wonder how much reach KeepAmericaAtWork has.

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 To: ProFox Email Listprofox@leafe.com
 Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 8:07 AM
 Subject: [OT] The case of the disappearing and reappearing Foxpro job



 I'm going to post this here because a lot of you make your living via
 Foxpro jobs and I believe you will find interesting whatever is going on
 here.

 I'm not sure why they will post the ad and then when I write about it,
 TekSystems will pull the ad.

 Is it because they are ashamed?
 Or doing something unethical?

 Anyway, you can read it for yourself if you want to and maybe even apply
 for it if you can pin them down in one place although I must warn you
 that I have applied for it and never even received a single call even
 though I'm only about 90 miles from there, which is commuting distance
 out here in the boonies.

 http://keepamericaatwork.com/?p=8159

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Re: [OT] MICHELE OBAMA ADMITS THAT BARACK WAS BORN IN KENYA

2010-04-06 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I look at it very simply.
If there is a law against it, it is a problem.
if there is not a law against it, is is not a problem.

On 4/6/2010 8:55 AM, Pete Theisen wrote:
 Michael Madigan wrote:

 IMPEACH THE KENYAN

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBJihJBePcsfeature=player_embedded
  
 Hi Michael,

 No. They are already explaining it away and the press is 1000% for him.




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ShowMyPC.com (was Re: [NF] Sharing a LogMeIn Rescue license)

2010-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
 On 3/2/10 4:52 PM, Sytze de Boer wrote:
 Why do people use Logmein anyway.
 I use Showmypc and as far as I'm aware it does all that Logmein does.
 We use it because it seems to work so much better with pesky firewalls etc
 
 
 Wow...ShowMyPC's price for the Business option is a FRACTION of LMI 
 Rescue and appears to have similar features.  Thanks for the link.  It's 
 worth more investigation for sure.
 


Guys,

I tried ShowMyPC tonight as well as talked with their LiveChat and found 
it very encouraging.  It's not 100% like LogMeIn Rescue (because I think 
LMIR uses Citrix technology, whereas ShowMyPC uses TightVNC), but it's 
98% as good seemingly.  Gonna subscribe tomorrow, most likely.

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[NF] cisco/linksys routers

2010-04-06 Thread Carl Lindner
Previously I believed a Linksys router would last a year to a year and a
half.  The current Cisco incarnation is very attractive but has lasted six
or so months.

Asus makes routers.  Thoughts?

Carl Lindner



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Re: [NF] cisco/linksys routers

2010-04-06 Thread Tracy Pearson
Carl Lindner wrote:
 Previously I believed a Linksys router would last a year to a year and a
 half.  The current Cisco incarnation is very attractive but has lasted six
 or so months.

 Asus makes routers.  Thoughts?

 Carl Lindner
   
My first thought, do you put your router on a UPS? The EPROM can be 
sensitive to power spikes.
I had my LinkSys for a couple of years, changed to a NetGear because of 
feature differences and the sale near a year and a quarter ago.

--
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RE: [OT] MICHELE OBAMA ADMITS THAT BARACK WAS BORN IN KENYA

2010-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
You are a master debater.

--- On Tue, 4/6/10, Gary Jeurink g.jeur...@charter.net wrote:

 From: Gary Jeurink g.jeur...@charter.net
 Subject: RE: [OT] MICHELE OBAMA ADMITS THAT BARACK WAS BORN IN KENYA
 To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com
 Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 2:42 PM
 You are so very sad! 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Madigan [mailto:mmadi10...@yahoo.com]
 
 Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:50 PM
 To: undisclosed recipients:
 Subject: [OT] MICHELE OBAMA ADMITS THAT BARACK WAS BORN IN
 KENYA
 
 IMPEACH THE KENYAN
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBJihJBePcsfeature=player_embedded
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [OT] Safest states

2010-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
Hard to believe that the Whitest states in the country are the safest.



--- On Tue, 4/6/10, Nicholas Geti ng...@optonline.net wrote:

 From: Nicholas Geti ng...@optonline.net
 Subject: [OT] Safest states
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 2:02 PM
 Interesting comment in this list of
 safest states to live. http://www.walletpop.com/insurance/safest-states
  Montana is the 6th safest. Some people say it is due to so
 many guns that keep criminals at bay.
 
 
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Re: [NF] cisco/linksys routers

2010-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
The linksys routers have always been a little unreliable for some reason.  I've 
used netgear and dlink with good luck and no major problems.

I think the UPS suggestion is mandatory



--- On Tue, 4/6/10, Tracy Pearson tr...@powerchurch.com wrote:

 From: Tracy Pearson tr...@powerchurch.com
 Subject: Re: [NF] cisco/linksys routers
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 Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 10:10 PM
 Carl Lindner wrote:
  Previously I believed a Linksys router would last a
 year to a year and a
  half.  The current Cisco incarnation is very
 attractive but has lasted six
  or so months.
 
  Asus makes routers.  Thoughts?
 
  Carl Lindner
    
 My first thought, do you put your router on a UPS? The
 EPROM can be 
 sensitive to power spikes.
 I had my LinkSys for a couple of years, changed to a
 NetGear because of 
 feature differences and the sale near a year and a quarter
 ago.
 
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 Tracy
 
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