RE: [ADMIN] Want to help?
Ed, Donation done and a very worthwhile cause it is as well... Hope your legs don't hurt too much. I did a 200m ride two weeks ago for Cancer research and I was a little sore at the end of the day. I'm not exactly Bradley Wiggins but I got there! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: 09 November 2012 02:14 To: ProFox Mailing List Subject: [ADMIN] Want to help? Every now and then I get a request from a member of this list who wants to show their appreciation for my time keeping this list running by sending me some money. As much as I've appreciated such offers, I always turn them down. Today, though, I am asking for money, but not for me. It's for the fight against Cystic Fibrosis. Some of you who know me know that I am a cyclist. Recently I met some people at Rackspace who are participating in the CF Cycle For Life ride to raise money to help find a cure for CF. There is a fellow Racker who has CF and is also going to be doing the ride, so when they asked me to join them, I really couldn't refuse. I'm committing to do a 70 mile ride. Donations are not based on the ride length, though; it's not $x per mile or anything like that. Instead, they are asking for simple donations in my name that will go to help fund the search for a cure for CF. So if you've gotten value out of this list, and you are in a position to donate a few dollars, please go to http://www.cff.org/LWC/EdLeafe and click the Click to Donate button. $5 would be great; $10 even better, and $20 would be awesome! The ride is in a week, so I'm starting this fundraising pretty late, but I'm hoping that my ProFox friends will help me support this worthy cause. And I promise not to send any more of these appeals for money - at least not until next year's MS150 mile ride to raise money for research on Multiple Sclerosis! ;-) -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/bd031ecabf2b60499200aab3dbb4a999012b2a9...@ex-a-fpl.fpl.LOCAL ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [ADMIN] Want to help?
200 metres Dave. Careful you are not getting any younger. Al -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: 09 November 2012 11:49 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [ADMIN] Want to help? Ed, Donation done and a very worthwhile cause it is as well... Hope your legs don't hurt too much. I did a 200m ride two weeks ago for Cancer research and I was a little sore at the end of the day. I'm not exactly Bradley Wiggins but I got there! Dave ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/003c01cdbe6d$6cd67880$46836980$@com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
They were hanging back from counting in case florida went down to the wire and they could cheat... again. And think about it... doesnt that just have that delicious taste of truth about it? -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 6:23 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 01:37 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: On 11/09/2012 02:30 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results What would Texas have done, given that close a result? Perhaps the Florida officials responsible for running the elections should consult with an expert on the subject to find opportunities how the Florida voting system might be improved. I'm sure there are some fine experts, as the other 49 states, including NY and NJ, that were ravaged by hurricane Sandy, got it right. Ducked the question, as usual. You don't know about your own state, do you. What does the election being close have to do with how long it take to count the votes? LOL It should only delay calling the election by projection, until all votes are counted, which should have occurred election night. No recount was involved. Regards, LelandJ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/006b01cdbe73$3dbebfc0$b93c3f40$@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Looking for VFP Work...
Thanks Christina - since, this is one of the great things about this list - a whole community of online friends! -K- On 11/9/2012 2:32 AM, Christina Bull wrote: Glad to help. Fly you to down under land? If only there was this amazing network of computers where we all information is just there and we could all connect in a flash oh wait, hold on ;-) Must make sure I attempt humour too. Will keep you posted and good luck! -Original Message- From: Kurt @ VR-FX [mailto:v...@optonline.net] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 2:52 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: Looking for VFP Work... Thanks Christina for the info - yeah - that's the Vid I was looking for. And - if you could fly me down under to Aussie land - that would ROCK!!! (ah - just joking on that one - as I still must attempt to keep at least a little bit of humor - or else all is lost..) ;-) -K- On 11/8/2012 10:40 PM, Christina Bull wrote: http://visualfoxprohelpwanted.com/ This is the guy from the YouTube vid Kurt. Now and then I look for sub-contracters to assist on projects. I'll keep your details Christina www.datahouse.com.au -Original Message- From: Kurt @ VR-FX [mailto:v...@optonline.net] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 12:21 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Looking for VFP Work... Hello there folks, Things have been slow at my job lately. Some people I have communicated with already (even here on this list) know recently - that I literally didn't have anything to do at work lately. There hasn't been any New Projects for me in Weeks now. And, I hadn't even dealt with any client problems in a while. I should have read the writing on the walls. My boss tells me that HIS Boss told him that he MUST make cutbacks to save money. And, since the older Aims clients have been so slow lately and giving us no new projects - and I'm the main Aims Only support guy - then I was the one they decided to let go. So - if anyone knows of anything - I would really appreciate it. Of course, my main skill is really VFP - no serious experience in any other Tech areas (although I have dabbled in some Javascript, Perl HTML in the past). My other background, which is very different from VFP - is doing 3D CG (I work with 3DS Max) - and I've done training (a corp. training gig for several Landscape Arch's) and teaching (1.5 yrs at Pratt 8 yrs. at Fashion Inst. of Tech.). But, I suspect that probably nobody in this group has connections within the realm of 3D CG. A little while ago a link was posted here - about guy who was looking for FoxPro consultants - and he actually had a Video up on YouTube. I was just looking for that posting - but, so far could not find it. Was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance for any help! Kurt [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509cf7cf.2090...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
Doh! I was hoping the totals would have been updated overnight! Really hoping that ProFox would blow that fund-raising goal out of the water. I guess I'll have to check back later. On 11/08/2012 09:13 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: please go to http://www.cff.org/LWC/EdLeafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d024f.1070...@cullytechnologies.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
On 11/09/2012 01:37 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: On 11/09/2012 02:30 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results What would Texas have done, given that close a result? Perhaps the Florida officials responsible for running the elections should consult with an expert on the subject to find opportunities how the Florida voting system might be improved. I'm sure there are some fine experts, as the other 49 states, including NY and NJ, that were ravaged by hurricane Sandy, got it right. Ducked the question, as usual. You don't know about your own state, do you. Anyone 65, or older, in Texas can vote early by mail. I downloaded the request for a Texas early voting ballot around September 21, 2012. The request for an early voting ballot was in a .pdf format. As I remember, the ballot itself had nothing on it pointing back to me other than a bar code, or the bar cord was on the green return envelope. I filled out the ballot, which required the complete covering of square boxes using either a blue or black ball point pin; no pencils allowed. Once I completed my ballot selections, I placed the ballot in the green envelope and sealed it up. Then I had to place the green envelope inside a yellow envelope, which required my signature. I sealed up the yellow envelope, signed it, and mail it in complete with stamp and return address. http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/voter/reqabbm.shtml Regards, LelandJ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d0c36.2010...@mail.smvfp.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [ADMIN] Want to help?
Hi Ed, A cause that is close to the heart of my family as I had a cousin with CF who never made it past the age of 2. Maybe you should change that profile picture to the Devcon dress photo. You might get a bigger response from the ProFox community... g,dr -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 9:14 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: [ADMIN] Want to help? Every now and then I get a request from a member of this list who wants to show their appreciation for my time keeping this list running by sending me some money. As much as I've appreciated such offers, I always turn them down. Today, though, I am asking for money, but not for me. It's for the fight against Cystic Fibrosis. [Richard Kaye] snip ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/DF1EEF11E586A64FB54A97F22A8BD0442178305E48@ACKBWDDQH1.artfact.local ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
On 11/09/2012 06:10 AM, geoff wrote: They were hanging back from counting in case florida went down to the wire and they could cheat... again. And think about it... doesnt that just have that delicious taste of truth about it? The Florida voting process seemed to deliberately be trying to suppress the vote by making the process inefficient, resulting in long lines that could take up to seven or eight hours to reach the voting booth. LOL Regards, LelandJ -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 6:23 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 01:37 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: On 11/09/2012 02:30 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results What would Texas have done, given that close a result? Perhaps the Florida officials responsible for running the elections should consult with an expert on the subject to find opportunities how the Florida voting system might be improved. I'm sure there are some fine experts, as the other 49 states, including NY and NJ, that were ravaged by hurricane Sandy, got it right. Ducked the question, as usual. You don't know about your own state, do you. What does the election being close have to do with how long it take to count the votes? LOL It should only delay calling the election by projection, until all votes are counted, which should have occurred election night. No recount was involved. Regards, LelandJ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d0e2b.1000...@mail.smvfp.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Ed Leafe ed.le...@rackspace.com wrote: Every now and then I get a request from a member of this list who wants to show their appreciation for my time keeping this list running by sending me some money. As much as I've appreciated such offers, I always turn them down. Today, though, I am asking for money, but not for me. It's for the fight against Cystic Fibrosis. Some of you who know me know that I am a cyclist. Recently I met some people at Rackspace who are participating in the CF Cycle For Life ride to raise money to help find a cure for CF. There is a fellow Racker who has CF and is also going to be doing the ride, so when they asked me to join them, I really couldn't refuse. I'm committing to do a 70 mile ride. Donations are not based on the ride length, though; it's not $x per mile or anything like that. Instead, they are asking for simple donations in my name that will go to help fund the search for a cure for CF. So if you've gotten value out of this list, and you are in a position to donate a few dollars, please go to http://www.cff.org/LWC/EdLeafe and click the Click to Donate button. $5 would be great; $10 even better, and $20 would be awesome! The ride is in a week, so I'm starting this fundraising pretty late, but I'm hoping that my ProFox friends will help me support this worthy cause. And I promise not to send any more of these appeals for money – at least not until next year's MS150 mile ride to raise money for research on Multiple Sclerosis! ;-) --- Are you worried about being tested when it's done. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Analyst Ring Container Technology Oakland TN 901.246-0159 cell --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cajidmyj34fb2mxncolups+cs2fhzl4a7zokfs2cdjshk8tg...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
On Nov 9, 2012, at 7:53 AM, Richard Kaye rk...@artfact.com wrote: Maybe you should change that profile picture to the Devcon dress photo. You might get a bigger response from the ProFox community... g,dr Perhaps, but then the donations would all be singles. ;-) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/68787064-7399-42fa-9d46-6d9136679...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
On Nov 9, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com wrote: Are you worried about being tested when it's done. For a pulse, yes. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/59a6f290-8d17-4dd0-9f1f-d1bc3a7de...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
Dave, 200 meters ? Jesus Dave u r in bad shape. I hope only the legs are that bad... Ed, done. E. From: Dave Crozier da...@flexipol.co.uk To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 8:48 AM Subject: RE: [ADMIN] Want to help? Ed, Donation done and a very worthwhile cause it is as well... Hope your legs don't hurt too much. I did a 200m ride two weeks ago for Cancer research and I was a little sore at the end of the day. I'm not exactly Bradley Wiggins but I got there! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: 09 November 2012 02:14 To: ProFox Mailing List Subject: [ADMIN] Want to help? Every now and then I get a request from a member of this list who wants to show their appreciation for my time keeping this list running by sending me some money. As much as I've appreciated such offers, I always turn them down. Today, though, I am asking for money, but not for me. It's for the fight against Cystic Fibrosis. Some of you who know me know that I am a cyclist. Recently I met some people at Rackspace who are participating in the CF Cycle For Life ride to raise money to help find a cure for CF. There is a fellow Racker who has CF and is also going to be doing the ride, so when they asked me to join them, I really couldn't refuse. I'm committing to do a 70 mile ride. Donations are not based on the ride length, though; it's not $x per mile or anything like that. Instead, they are asking for simple donations in my name that will go to help fund the search for a cure for CF. So if you've gotten value out of this list, and you are in a position to donate a few dollars, please go to http://www.cff.org/LWC/EdLeafe and click the Click to Donate button. $5 would be great; $10 even better, and $20 would be awesome! The ride is in a week, so I'm starting this fundraising pretty late, but I'm hoping that my ProFox friends will help me support this worthy cause. And I promise not to send any more of these appeals for money - at least not until next year's MS150 mile ride to raise money for research on Multiple Sclerosis! ;-) -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1352473377.71605.yahoomail...@web140601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [ADMIN] Want to help?
Done (interesting that I could enter a UK Postcode in the ZIP field ...) -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: 09 November 2012 02:14 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: [ADMIN] Want to help? Every now and then I get a request from a member of this list who wants to show their appreciation for my time keeping this list running by sending me some money. As much as I've appreciated such offers, I always turn them down. Today, though, I am asking for money, but not for me. It's for the fight against Cystic Fibrosis. Some of you who know me know that I am a cyclist. Recently I met some people at Rackspace who are participating in the CF Cycle For Life ride to raise money to help find a cure for CF. There is a fellow Racker who has CF and is also going to be doing the ride, so when they asked me to join them, I really couldn't refuse. I'm committing to do a 70 mile ride. Donations are not based on the ride length, though; it's not $x per mile or anything like that. Instead, they are asking for simple donations in my name that will go to help fund the search for a cure for CF. So if you've gotten value out of this list, and you are in a position to donate a few dollars, please go to http://www.cff.org/LWC/EdLeafe and click the Click to Donate button. $5 would be great; $10 even better, and $20 would be awesome! The ride is in a week, so I'm starting this fundraising pretty late, but I'm hoping that my ProFox friends will help me support this worthy cause. And I promise not to send any more of these appeals for money - at least not until next year's MS150 mile ride to raise money for research on Multiple Sclerosis! ;-) -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/9a8106afb0ef9b44b69045c4448935a20a7...@ukfawexmbx1.infor.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [ADMIN] Want to help?
Eurico and the rest of you p*ss takers! I'm not that old and infirm I meant MICRONS not metres! ... no, it was 200 MILES and 13 hours of hard riding, the last hour done entirely on auto pilot I'm afraid. Mind you the beers went down really well afterwards ... and I didn't need so much either. Anyhow, I thought you were all my colleagues and friends. how shallow is that!.. lol! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Eurico Chagas Filho Sent: 09 November 2012 15:03 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Want to help? Dave, 200 meters ? Jesus Dave u r in bad shape. I hope only the legs are that bad... Ed, done. E. From: Dave Crozier da...@flexipol.co.uk To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 8:48 AM Subject: RE: [ADMIN] Want to help? Ed, Donation done and a very worthwhile cause it is as well... Hope your legs don't hurt too much. I did a 200m ride two weeks ago for Cancer research and I was a little sore at the end of the day. I'm not exactly Bradley Wiggins but I got there! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: 09 November 2012 02:14 To: ProFox Mailing List Subject: [ADMIN] Want to help? Every now and then I get a request from a member of this list who wants to show their appreciation for my time keeping this list running by sending me some money. As much as I've appreciated such offers, I always turn them down. Today, though, I am asking for money, but not for me. It's for the fight against Cystic Fibrosis. Some of you who know me know that I am a cyclist. Recently I met some people at Rackspace who are participating in the CF Cycle For Life ride to raise money to help find a cure for CF. There is a fellow Racker who has CF and is also going to be doing the ride, so when they asked me to join them, I really couldn't refuse. I'm committing to do a 70 mile ride. Donations are not based on the ride length, though; it's not $x per mile or anything like that. Instead, they are asking for simple donations in my name that will go to help fund the search for a cure for CF. So if you've gotten value out of this list, and you are in a position to donate a few dollars, please go to http://www.cff.org/LWC/EdLeafe and click the Click to Donate button. $5 would be great; $10 even better, and $20 would be awesome! The ride is in a week, so I'm starting this fundraising pretty late, but I'm hoping that my ProFox friends will help me support this worthy cause. And I promise not to send any more of these appeals for money - at least not until next year's MS150 mile ride to raise money for research on Multiple Sclerosis! ;-) -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/bd031ecabf2b60499200aab3dbb4a999012b2b1...@ex-a-fpl.fpl.LOCAL ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [ADMIN] Want to help?
Give 'em an inch and they'll take a micron I always say... -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:10 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [ADMIN] Want to help? I'm not that old and infirm I meant MICRONS not metres! Anyhow, I thought you were all my colleagues and friends. how shallow is that!.. lol! Dave ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/DF1EEF11E586A64FB54A97F22A8BD0442178305EA7@ACKBWDDQH1.artfact.local ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [ADMIN] Want to help?
Anyhow come on you guys, show some appreciation for Ed's efforts I expect to see all the regular's names up there by the end of the weekend. Remember no amount is too small and you can donate from any country!!! Look at it as a belated payment for all the help you have received off the Profox list! Don't think about it ... DO IT! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: 09 November 2012 02:14 To: ProFox Mailing List Subject: [ADMIN] Want to help? Every now and then I get a request from a member of this list who wants to show their appreciation for my time keeping this list running by sending me some money. As much as I've appreciated such offers, I always turn them down. Today, though, I am asking for money, but not for me. It's for the fight against Cystic Fibrosis. Some of you who know me know that I am a cyclist. Recently I met some people at Rackspace who are participating in the CF Cycle For Life ride to raise money to help find a cure for CF. There is a fellow Racker who has CF and is also going to be doing the ride, so when they asked me to join them, I really couldn't refuse. I'm committing to do a 70 mile ride. Donations are not based on the ride length, though; it's not $x per mile or anything like that. Instead, they are asking for simple donations in my name that will go to help fund the search for a cure for CF. So if you've gotten value out of this list, and you are in a position to donate a few dollars, please go to http://www.cff.org/LWC/EdLeafe and click the Click to Donate button. $5 would be great; $10 even better, and $20 would be awesome! The ride is in a week, so I'm starting this fundraising pretty late, but I'm hoping that my ProFox friends will help me support this worthy cause. And I promise not to send any more of these appeals for money - at least not until next year's MS150 mile ride to raise money for research on Multiple Sclerosis! ;-) -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/bd031ecabf2b60499200aab3dbb4a999012b2b1...@ex-a-fpl.fpl.LOCAL ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] what a relief and bad luck rednecks!
El 09/11/12 01:33, Michael Madigan escribió: America will now look like Detroit, Memphis, Camden, and Baltimore. Oh God! Other 4 years of whining and weeping like a sissy? Can't you at least try being a man? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d2537.9000...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The delete key is my friend.
If only they were savage enough to round you up and put you out of your misery. El 09/11/12 00:18, Michael Madigan escribió: Isn't it great that savages get to decide an election? - Original Message - From: Jerry Wolper jwol...@swanzoco.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [OT] The delete key is my friend. I am just afraid that the results will be to close for one reason or another and we will go all stupid again. Florida ballot mess comes to mind. Isn't it nice that this year's Florida mess doesn't matter? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d2605.7030...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
no can do from here - it just times out AndyD 8-)# in Goa snip ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d2607.6090...@hawthorncottage.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
On Nov 9, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Dave Crozier da...@flexipol.co.uk wrote: ... no, it was 200 MILES and 13 hours of hard riding, the last hour done entirely on auto pilot I'm afraid. Was that spread over a weekend? The MS150 ride does a century on Saturday, and the other 50-60 miles on Sunday. I don't think I could do 150 in a day, much less 200! Mind you the beers went down really well afterwards ... and I didn't need so much either. I did a 50 mile ride last weekend as a warmup, and yes, the thought of enjoying that beer afterwards was what kept me going. Well, that and the fact that I had to get back to my car to get home! -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/311dc973-5cfa-4454-9de3-5578151b2...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
On Nov 9, 2012, at 9:49 AM, AndyHC a...@hawthorncottage.com wrote: no can do from here - it just times out Hey, thanks for trying. The website seems pretty low tech; the donation data is updated daily, so if they can't create dynamic pages from live data, they're probably using some antiquated server running 1990s software. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/6861383d-57d2-4503-ad6e-cd767cb99...@rackspace.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Good explanation
Here is an excellent analysis of why Mitt lost the election. http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/why-romney-lost-obama/2012/11/07/id/463241?s=alpromo_code=109FA-1 Biggest reason is that Obama attack ads sank Mitt early on. People believe anything if it is repeated enough and Mitt never responded. Nick Geti ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1F7F64128E684D688488F1B8BA39D90D@dual ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [ADMIN] Want to help?
Ed, No, we set off at 6:00am in the morning and rode all day. I used to do a lot of biking back in my 20's and regularly did 200 miles plus so I knew what I was letting myself in for. The problem for me was not being able to keep to the times I used to do in my youth! Having said that I averaged just over 16mph for the whole route as opposed to my youth average of 24, but I was fit in those days with a little less weight. I used to be able to average 20mph for fun regardless of the terrain and as the course was fairly quite hilly I was actually quite pleased, especially as I hadn't done any training whatsoever. My only boo-boo was forgetting that after about 1-2 hours of cycling you tend to hit the wall and I didn't thrust a candy bar down my throat early enough and had to be reminded by the support group that I was steering somewhat erratically, but after that I kept the sugar levels up and just ploughed on regardless ... trying to recover my youth, but failing miserably! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: 09 November 2012 15:53 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Want to help? On Nov 9, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Dave Crozier da...@flexipol.co.uk wrote: ... no, it was 200 MILES and 13 hours of hard riding, the last hour done entirely on auto pilot I'm afraid. Was that spread over a weekend? The MS150 ride does a century on Saturday, and the other 50-60 miles on Sunday. I don't think I could do 150 in a day, much less 200! Mind you the beers went down really well afterwards ... and I didn't need so much either. I did a 50 mile ride last weekend as a warmup, and yes, the thought of enjoying that beer afterwards was what kept me going. Well, that and the fact that I had to get back to my car to get home! -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/bd031ecabf2b60499200aab3dbb4a999012b2b3...@ex-a-fpl.fpl.LOCAL ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [ADMIN] Want to help?
Done. John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/002901cdbe99$dd15ce80$97416b80$@johnweller.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [ADMIN] Want to help?
Done ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000401cdbe99$d9acd9f0$8d068dd0$@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
Ed's blown away his total and I'm sure that the team total will be surpassed by the end of the weekend. I'll add my contribution tonight as it's a good cause. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 5:17 AM, Kevin Cully kcu...@cullytechnologies.com wrote: Doh! I was hoping the totals would have been updated overnight! Really hoping that ProFox would blow that fund-raising goal out of the water. I guess I'll have to check back later. On 11/08/2012 09:13 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: please go to http://www.cff.org/LWC/EdLeafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/410f9b7b-fa42-44d7-83d3-d5d2652c9...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
It seems Paul got there okay from the UK, but I've failed twice now. First attempts about 12 hours ago, tried many times, no luck. Just now tried several times, same result. Anyone else logged in from Australia? GT On 10/11/12 02:05, Paul Newton wrote: Done (interesting that I could enter a UK Postcode in the ZIP field ...) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d3952.1080...@taig.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [ADMIN] Want to help?
Thanks Ed for all you do and provide! Donation made a few minutes ago. Best regards, Jack Skelley Jack Skelley Senior Director, Programming/Computer Operations New Jersey Devils (973)757-6164 jskel...@newjerseydevils.com From: ProfoxTech [profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] on behalf of M Jarvis [brewda...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 12:09 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Want to help? Worked fine for me - you go Ed go!! -- Matt Jarvis Eugene, Oregon USA On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote: Ed's blown away his total and I'm sure that the team total will be surpassed by the end of the weekend. I'll add my contribution tonight as it's a good cause. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/7d9e7f72b813014c8fd022cf04f820ed58520...@ex08.drdad.thenewarkarena.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
Done. _Ajit Abraham ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d3a44.5080...@ua-group.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Good explanation
El 09/11/12 12:35, Nicholas Geti escribió: Here is an excellent analysis of why Mitt lost the election. http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/why-romney-lost-obama/2012/11/07/id/463241?s=alpromo_code=109FA-1 Biggest reason is that Obama attack ads sank Mitt early on. People believe anything if it is repeated enough and Mitt never responded. So basically to you Reps people are a stupid pack of sheep that will only vote for the smartest operator. Maybe THAT'S why people turned their backs to you. On the one hand you fill your mouths with big words like democracy, freedom, etc. But on the other hand you seem to think people are a stupid pack to be led by social engineering. Which kind of sinks the other big words, makes them worthless. What you are saying really is the only smart people are me and a few others, the rest are there to be *managed* Not a real democrat you are now, are you? --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d3c04.4070...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Jack Skelley jskel...@newjerseydevils.com wrote: Thanks Ed for all you do and provide! Donation made a few minutes ago. Best regards, Jack Skelley A Man is truly rich when he has Friends -- Matt Jarvis Eugene, Oregon USA ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAPT54rbqyfN-Wc90rtWrnsK9Oh+vJua1GD21g3VEKxQ4=d=-r...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
Done. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d3e25.1000...@taconic.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
Done Excellent approach Ed! Thanks for the list and the cause. Joe Yoder On Thursday, November 08, 2012 9:13 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 02:13:37 + From: Ed Leafe To: profoxt...@leafe.com cc: Subject: [ADMIN] Want to help? Every now and then I get a request from a member of this list who wants to show their appreciation for my time keeping this list running by sending me some money. As much as I've appreciated such offers, I always turn them down. Today, though, I am asking for money, but not for me. It's for the fight against Cystic Fibrosis. Some of you who know me know that I am a cyclist. Recently I met some people at Rackspace who are participating in the CF Cycle For Life ride to raise money to help find a cure for CF. There is a fellow Racker who has CF and is also going to be doing the ride, so when they asked me to join them, I really couldn't refuse. I'm committing to do a 70 mile ride. Donations are not based on the ride length, though; it's not $x per mile or anything like that. Instead, they are asking for simple donations in my name that will go to help fund the search for a cure for CF. So if you've gotten value out of this list, and you are in a position to donate a few dollars, please go to http://www.cff.org/LWC/EdLeafe and click the Click to Donate button. $5 would be great; $10 even better, and $20 would be awesome! The ride is in a week, so I'm starting this fundraising pretty late, but I'm hoping that my ProFox friends will help me support this worthy cause. And I promise not to send any more of these appeals for money at least not until next year's MS150 mile ride to raise money for research on Multiple Sclerosis! ;-) -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d472a.a833320a.0cc3.5...@mx.google.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
On 11/09/2012 07:10 AM, geoff wrote: I visited the supervisor of elections office today. They told me that the absentee ballots and provisional ballots are not counted if they would make no difference. If the election is close, then they count them all. Since these have to be counted by hand, it takes days. They were hanging back from counting in case florida went down to the wire and they could cheat... again. And think about it... doesnt that just have that delicious taste of truth about it? -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 6:23 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 01:37 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: On 11/09/2012 02:30 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results What would Texas have done, given that close a result? Perhaps the Florida officials responsible for running the elections should consult with an expert on the subject to find opportunities how the Florida voting system might be improved. I'm sure there are some fine experts, as the other 49 states, including NY and NJ, that were ravaged by hurricane Sandy, got it right. Ducked the question, as usual. You don't know about your own state, do you. What does the election being close have to do with how long it take to count the votes? LOL It should only delay calling the election by projection, until all votes are counted, which should have occurred election night. No recount was involved. Regards, LelandJ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d47c5.1050...@verizon.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
On 11/09/2012 09:07 AM, lelandj wrote: The Florida voting process seemed to deliberately be trying to suppress the vote by making the process inefficient, resulting in long lines that could take up to seven or eight hours to reach the voting booth. LOL Hi Leland, That isn't it. They do it the way they do to make it cheap. And it is cheap, unless the election is close. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d4864.8020...@verizon.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
Why should criminals (felons specifically) be allowed to vote? Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:19 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: I have to say that as an observer of your voting system that it sucks almost beyond belief. You have queues where people stand half a day to vote when an obvious and rather simple solution is more machines and more staff. You have officials trying to rig the system, Florida denying the vote to those with a criminal record etc etc. Is there any wonder that other countries sent observers to ensure that your elections are free and fair? -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 5:28 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 12:32 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results Hi Leland, What would Texas have done, given that close a result? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/85b1de2b-f911-4aa0-b87b-02154e76e...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
El 09/11/12 15:24, Michael Oke, II escribió: Why should criminals (felons specifically) be allowed to vote? Why should African foreigners (you specifically) have a say? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d4f4d.8070...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
Well, since I'm not (an african foreigner that is) that allows me to have a say. Now back to your bottle. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Ricardo Aráoz ricar...@gmail.com wrote: El 09/11/12 15:24, Michael Oke, II escribió: Why should criminals (felons specifically) be allowed to vote? Why should African foreigners (you specifically) have a say? [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/6e863f45-edd8-491c-aa3d-5aa2df21b...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Undeleting Files...
Hey folks - looking for a little quick advice. My old computer at my old day job - I had some files on there - which I Deleted - and then Emptied the Trash bin. And, now they are about to re-alloc that PC to another user. I know that in the past I have used special SW to Undelete files - since they aren't truly gone until the OS actually overwrites that space. Do U agree? So - I need to find one of those programs - a free one - and get it to one of my old co-workers - so they can try to retrieve the files - before the PC wiped given to a new user. Was hoping someone here would have a suggestion! Thanks, Kurt ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d53bd.3030...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [ADMIN] Want to help?
Done. On 11/08/12 18:13, Ed Leafe wrote: Every now and then I get a request from a member of this list who wants to show their appreciation for my time keeping this list running by sending me some money. As much as I've appreciated such offers, I always turn them down. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d550a.6010...@san.rr.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
You are until you show us proof of your birth certificate. El 09/11/12 15:57, Michael Oke, II escribió: Well, since I'm not (an african foreigner that is) that allows me to have a say. Now back to your bottle. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Ricardo Aráoz ricar...@gmail.com wrote: El 09/11/12 15:24, Michael Oke, II escribió: Why should criminals (felons specifically) be allowed to vote? Why should African foreigners (you specifically) have a say? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d5722.5060...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
On 11/09/2012 12:13 PM, Pete Theisen wrote: On 11/09/2012 07:10 AM, geoff wrote: I visited the supervisor of elections office today. They told me that the absentee ballots and provisional ballots are not counted if they would make no difference. If the election is close, then they count them all. That's wierd. It seem like every vote should be valued to determine the overall popular vote, even if the state electoral vote is not in question. In Texas early voting by mail is cut off well in advance of election day, so the early vote can be tally for immediate input when regular voting starts. Some states allow registered voters to cast their ballot over the internet, if they will be out of the country on election day, etc. Regards, LelandJ Since these have to be counted by hand, it takes days. They were hanging back from counting in case florida went down to the wire and they could cheat... again. And think about it... doesnt that just have that delicious taste of truth about it? -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 6:23 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 01:37 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: On 11/09/2012 02:30 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results What would Texas have done, given that close a result? Perhaps the Florida officials responsible for running the elections should consult with an expert on the subject to find opportunities how the Florida voting system might be improved. I'm sure there are some fine experts, as the other 49 states, including NY and NJ, that were ravaged by hurricane Sandy, got it right. Ducked the question, as usual. You don't know about your own state, do you. What does the election being close have to do with how long it take to count the votes? LOL It should only delay calling the election by projection, until all votes are counted, which should have occurred election night. No recount was involved. Regards, LelandJ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d5988.9070...@mail.smvfp.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Undeleting Files...
http://www.piriform.com/recuva Kind regards Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 supp...@calcpay.co.uk http://www.calcpay.co.uk ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d599a.9030...@calcpay.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Undeleting Files...
Hey Andrew - thanks for your response. I was having problems getting to the site - but, got to a Cached version. Then, when trying to download it - it says free version has no support - but, it also doesn't say what it does - like the paid ones says it Undeletes files. I find it strange that the list the Free version that way. But - the Free one Does actually work -right? TIA, -K- On 11/9/2012 2:29 PM, Andrew Stirling wrote: http://www.piriform.com/recuva Kind regards Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 supp...@calcpay.co.uk http://www.calcpay.co.uk [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d5b83.20...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
Back to your bottle. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Ricardo Aráoz ricar...@gmail.com wrote: You are until you show us proof of your birth certificate. El 09/11/12 15:57, Michael Oke, II escribió: Well, since I'm not (an african foreigner that is) that allows me to have a say. Now back to your bottle. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Ricardo Aráoz ricar...@gmail.com wrote: El 09/11/12 15:24, Michael Oke, II escribió: Why should criminals (felons specifically) be allowed to vote? Why should African foreigners (you specifically) have a say? [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/3973ad55-d8f4-4058-848a-df95eae5c...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Undeleting Files...
Always has for me when I used it. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Hey Andrew - thanks for your response. I was having problems getting to the site - but, got to a Cached version. Then, when trying to download it - it says free version has no support - but, it also doesn't say what it does - like the paid ones says it Undeletes files. I find it strange that the list the Free version that way. But - the Free one Does actually work -right? TIA, -K- On 11/9/2012 2:29 PM, Andrew Stirling wrote: http://www.piriform.com/recuva Kind regards Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 supp...@calcpay.co.uk http://www.calcpay.co.uk [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/7d335fa9-794c-483e-bb59-b8efff4ed...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Undeleting Files...
OK - am trying it now! -K- On 11/9/2012 2:39 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: Always has for me when I used it. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Hey Andrew - thanks for your response. I was having problems getting to the site - but, got to a Cached version. Then, when trying to download it - it says free version has no support - but, it also doesn't say what it does - like the paid ones says it Undeletes files. I find it strange that the list the Free version that way. But - the Free one Does actually work -right? TIA, -K- On 11/9/2012 2:29 PM, Andrew Stirling wrote: http://www.piriform.com/recuva Kind regards Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 supp...@calcpay.co.uk http://www.calcpay.co.uk [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d5c44.4010...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Undeleting Files...
Darn - just finished trying it - I did a test - made a folder - put some JPGs in it - deleted them - then Emptied the Trash - and just now tried to have it recover those files and it did NOT work - it found nothing!Dang... -K- On 11/9/2012 2:39 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: Always has for me when I used it. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Hey Andrew - thanks for your response. I was having problems getting to the site - but, got to a Cached version. Then, when trying to download it - it says free version has no support - but, it also doesn't say what it does - like the paid ones says it Undeletes files. I find it strange that the list the Free version that way. But - the Free one Does actually work -right? TIA, -K- On 11/9/2012 2:29 PM, Andrew Stirling wrote: http://www.piriform.com/recuva Kind regards Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 supp...@calcpay.co.uk http://www.calcpay.co.uk [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d5cd1.7060...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Undeleting Files...
I even just tried the Deep Scan - and still it found nothing! :-( -K- On 11/9/2012 2:43 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: Darn - just finished trying it - I did a test - made a folder - put some JPGs in it - deleted them - then Emptied the Trash - and just now tried to have it recover those files and it did NOT work - it found nothing!Dang... -K- On 11/9/2012 2:39 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: Always has for me when I used it. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Hey Andrew - thanks for your response. I was having problems getting to the site - but, got to a Cached version. Then, when trying to download it - it says free version has no support - but, it also doesn't say what it does - like the paid ones says it Undeletes files. I find it strange that the list the Free version that way. But - the Free one Does actually work -right? TIA, -K- On 11/9/2012 2:29 PM, Andrew Stirling wrote: http://www.piriform.com/recuva Kind regards Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 supp...@calcpay.co.uk http://www.calcpay.co.uk [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d5d86.70...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Undeleting Files...
Not sure what to tell you Kurt, I've used it in the past with great success. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: I even just tried the Deep Scan - and still it found nothing! :-( -K- On 11/9/2012 2:43 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: Darn - just finished trying it - I did a test - made a folder - put some JPGs in it - deleted them - then Emptied the Trash - and just now tried to have it recover those files and it did NOT work - it found nothing! Dang... -K- On 11/9/2012 2:39 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: Always has for me when I used it. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Hey Andrew - thanks for your response. I was having problems getting to the site - but, got to a Cached version. Then, when trying to download it - it says free version has no support - but, it also doesn't say what it does - like the paid ones says it Undeletes files. I find it strange that the list the Free version that way. But - the Free one Does actually work -right? TIA, -K- On 11/9/2012 2:29 PM, Andrew Stirling wrote: http://www.piriform.com/recuva Kind regards Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 supp...@calcpay.co.uk http://www.calcpay.co.uk [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/df8d94da-3fcd-447a-81d8-b5d0903d3...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Undeleting Files...
Actually - after running the Scan - I looked into the folder where I had deleted the files. I did NOT even try looking into the Trash! But - I just did it NOW - and it found Nothing! -K- On 11/9/2012 2:48 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Did you try to recover files from the Trash folder or the original? On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Darn - just finished trying it - I did a test - made a folder - put some JPGs in it - deleted them - then Emptied the Trash - and just now tried to have it recover those files and it did NOT work - it found nothing! Dang... --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d61f4.8080...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Undeleting Files...
YEah - I don't know either. Well - I may just try and send this over to my Tech support buddy - and see if he has any luck! -K- On 11/9/2012 2:49 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: Not sure what to tell you Kurt, I've used it in the past with great success. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: I even just tried the Deep Scan - and still it found nothing! :-( -K- On 11/9/2012 2:43 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: Darn - just finished trying it - I did a test - made a folder - put some JPGs in it - deleted them - then Emptied the Trash - and just now tried to have it recover those files and it did NOT work - it found nothing!Dang... -K- On 11/9/2012 2:39 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote: Always has for me when I used it. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Kurt @ VR-FX v...@optonline.net wrote: Hey Andrew - thanks for your response. I was having problems getting to the site - but, got to a Cached version. Then, when trying to download it - it says free version has no support - but, it also doesn't say what it does - like the paid ones says it Undeletes files. I find it strange that the list the Free version that way. But - the Free one Does actually work -right? TIA, -K- On 11/9/2012 2:29 PM, Andrew Stirling wrote: http://www.piriform.com/recuva Kind regards Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 supp...@calcpay.co.uk http://www.calcpay.co.uk [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d6235.2030...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
Nothing like making your vote count... in proper voting democracies, every vote is counted rather than leave it for some unelected neanderthal to determine that 'they dont matter'. The more I see of the american voting system the more corruption I see. Maybe you DO need international observers! -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 4:43 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 07:10 AM, geoff wrote: I visited the supervisor of elections office today. They told me that the absentee ballots and provisional ballots are not counted if they would make no difference. If the election is close, then they count them all. Since these have to be counted by hand, it takes days. They were hanging back from counting in case florida went down to the wire and they could cheat... again. And think about it... doesnt that just have that delicious taste of truth about it? -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 6:23 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 01:37 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: On 11/09/2012 02:30 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results What would Texas have done, given that close a result? Perhaps the Florida officials responsible for running the elections should consult with an expert on the subject to find opportunities how the Florida voting system might be improved. I'm sure there are some fine experts, as the other 49 states, including NY and NJ, that were ravaged by hurricane Sandy, got it right. Ducked the question, as usual. You don't know about your own state, do you. What does the election being close have to do with how long it take to count the votes? LOL It should only delay calling the election by projection, until all votes are counted, which should have occurred election night. No recount was involved. Regards, LelandJ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000c01cdbeb8$3e2cdd80$ba869880$@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Observation about UPS
Anyone else use UPS's Worldship software? What a great example of main-frame mentality to address a problem. Bloated, overblown, and unwieldy comes to mind. I realize that they are doing a HUGE task tracking millions (if not billions) of packages around the world minute by minute, but the more I use it, the more of a behemoth it becomes. Just incredible. Sorry, had to vent to the only people I know who would (possibly) commiserate. (The UPS tech support folks didn't...wasn't in their script.) Mike Copeland ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d6709.1000...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
Why shouldnt they? Surely in any democracy the right to vote should only be denied under extreme situations and certianly not that 50 years ago you got into a drunken fight and hit someone. For a democracy, you americans seem quite keen on denying the vote to as many as you can either by legislation or by creating such queues that people give up. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 4:54 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks Why should criminals (felons specifically) be allowed to vote? Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:19 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: I have to say that as an observer of your voting system that it sucks almost beyond belief. You have queues where people stand half a day to vote when an obvious and rather simple solution is more machines and more staff. You have officials trying to rig the system, Florida denying the vote to those with a criminal record etc etc. Is there any wonder that other countries sent observers to ensure that your elections are free and fair? -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 5:28 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 12:32 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results Hi Leland, What would Texas have done, given that close a result? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000d01cdbeb8$98231bb0$c8695310$@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
I live in australia. We would be unlucky to queue 30 minutes to vote. We know how many people are going to vote so we staff the polling booths accordingly. I struggle to understand how such a simple supply and demand equation can so elude so many american voting authorities. Mind you we have ONE electoral authority while I am guessing you have somewhere between 50 and 200? A bit like you have 7000 police forces and we have 7. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 12:38 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 06:10 AM, geoff wrote: They were hanging back from counting in case florida went down to the wire and they could cheat... again. And think about it... doesnt that just have that delicious taste of truth about it? The Florida voting process seemed to deliberately be trying to suppress the vote by making the process inefficient, resulting in long lines that could take up to seven or eight hours to reach the voting booth. LOL Regards, LelandJ -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 6:23 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 01:37 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: On 11/09/2012 02:30 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results What would Texas have done, given that close a result? Perhaps the Florida officials responsible for running the elections should consult with an expert on the subject to find opportunities how the Florida voting system might be improved. I'm sure there are some fine experts, as the other 49 states, including NY and NJ, that were ravaged by hurricane Sandy, got it right. Ducked the question, as usual. You don't know about your own state, do you. What does the election being close have to do with how long it take to count the votes? LOL It should only delay calling the election by projection, until all votes are counted, which should have occurred election night. No recount was involved. Regards, LelandJ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000e01cdbeb9$237b6910$6a723b30$@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Undeleting Files...
On 11/9/2012 2:04 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: Hey folks - looking for a little quick advice. My old computer at my old day job - I had some files on there - which I Deleted - and then Emptied the Trash bin. And, now they are about to re-alloc that PC to another user. I know that in the past I have used special SW to Undelete files - since they aren't truly gone until the OS actually overwrites that space. Do U agree? So - I need to find one of those programs - a free one - and get it to one of my old co-workers - so they can try to retrieve the files - before the PC wiped given to a new user. Was hoping someone here would have a suggestion! Man, this reminds me of the old Norton Utilities! Wonder if that still exists? -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d691e.5090...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
If 50 years ago that drunken fight resulted in a felony conviction, then yes you have forfeited your right to vote. Keep in mind that that doesn't stop people from voting anyway. I don't understand the queues either but it might have a bit to do with the ridiculousness of some of the ballots. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 12:27 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: Why shouldnt they? Surely in any democracy the right to vote should only be denied under extreme situations and certianly not that 50 years ago you got into a drunken fight and hit someone. For a democracy, you americans seem quite keen on denying the vote to as many as you can either by legislation or by creating such queues that people give up. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 4:54 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks Why should criminals (felons specifically) be allowed to vote? Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:19 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: I have to say that as an observer of your voting system that it sucks almost beyond belief. You have queues where people stand half a day to vote when an obvious and rather simple solution is more machines and more staff. You have officials trying to rig the system, Florida denying the vote to those with a criminal record etc etc. Is there any wonder that other countries sent observers to ensure that your elections are free and fair? -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 5:28 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 12:32 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results Hi Leland, What would Texas have done, given that close a result? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/f9e6494e-5a86-4d2c-a4f8-56e517d57...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Undeleting Files...
http://www.piriform.com/recuva Carl Lindner -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions, LLC Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 3:36 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Undeleting Files... On 11/9/2012 2:04 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: Hey folks - looking for a little quick advice. My old computer at my old day job - I had some files on there - which I Deleted - and then Emptied the Trash bin. And, now they are about to re-alloc that PC to another user. I know that in the past I have used special SW to Undelete files - since they aren't truly gone until the OS actually overwrites that space. Do U agree? So - I need to find one of those programs - a free one - and get it to one of my old co-workers - so they can try to retrieve the files - before the PC wiped given to a new user. Was hoping someone here would have a suggestion! Man, this reminds me of the old Norton Utilities! Wonder if that still exists? -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/!!AAAYABb9FJb8qxRMvnUzapjTz2QCiQAAEC26gQDxQHhCi005DmoZqScBAA==@bdos.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Observation about UPS
On 11/9/2012 3:26 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: Anyone else use UPS's Worldship software? What a great example of main-frame mentality to address a problem. Bloated, overblown, and unwieldy comes to mind. I realize that they are doing a HUGE task tracking millions (if not billions) of packages around the world minute by minute, but the more I use it, the more of a behemoth it becomes. Just incredible. Sorry, had to vent to the only people I know who would (possibly) commiserate. (The UPS tech support folks didn't...wasn't in their script.) I wrote an app back in 2003 that UPS Worldship hooked into for Order/address information. I can relate. -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d6bb1.8070...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Undeleting Files...
Ah - Carl - Andrew beat you with that answer by about 1 Hr 10 min.! :-) And - its not really working for me - but, I sent that tool to my Tech support buddy anyway... -K- On 11/9/2012 3:40 PM, Carl Lindner wrote: http://www.piriform.com/recuva Carl Lindner -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions, LLC Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 3:36 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Undeleting Files... On 11/9/2012 2:04 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: Hey folks - looking for a little quick advice. My old computer at my old day job - I had some files on there - which I Deleted - and then Emptied the Trash bin. And, now they are about to re-alloc that PC to another user. I know that in the past I have used special SW to Undelete files - since they aren't truly gone until the OS actually overwrites that space. Do U agree? So - I need to find one of those programs - a free one - and get it to one of my old co-workers - so they can try to retrieve the files - before the PC wiped given to a new user. Was hoping someone here would have a suggestion! Man, this reminds me of the old Norton Utilities! Wonder if that still exists? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d6db0.6070...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Undeleting Files...
Carl Lindner c...@bdos.com wrote: http://www.piriform.com/recuva Carl Lindner Seems the server is on and off. -- Tracy ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/fc36e1cd-57db-40d1-b5c8-3919618f0...@email.android.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Undeleting Files...
Google Chrome claims it may be just bogged down - it showed me a Cached version of that webpage - and I was actually able to download the utility from there. Although - it didn't actually work for me to Undelete some files I did as a Test here at home... -K- On 11/9/2012 4:00 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote: Carl Lindner c...@bdos.com wrote: http://www.piriform.com/recuva Carl Lindner Seems the server is on and off. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d6ff1.7010...@optonline.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
But they are the free world. LOL With Guantanamo, the patriot's act, police brutality, etc. Just another police state. El 09/11/12 17:31, geoff escribió: I live in australia. We would be unlucky to queue 30 minutes to vote. We know how many people are going to vote so we staff the polling booths accordingly. I struggle to understand how such a simple supply and demand equation can so elude so many american voting authorities. Mind you we have ONE electoral authority while I am guessing you have somewhere between 50 and 200? A bit like you have 7000 police forces and we have 7. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 12:38 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 06:10 AM, geoff wrote: They were hanging back from counting in case florida went down to the wire and they could cheat... again. And think about it... doesnt that just have that delicious taste of truth about it? The Florida voting process seemed to deliberately be trying to suppress the vote by making the process inefficient, resulting in long lines that could take up to seven or eight hours to reach the voting booth. LOL Regards, LelandJ -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 6:23 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 01:37 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: On 11/09/2012 02:30 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results What would Texas have done, given that close a result? Perhaps the Florida officials responsible for running the elections should consult with an expert on the subject to find opportunities how the Florida voting system might be improved. I'm sure there are some fine experts, as the other 49 states, including NY and NJ, that were ravaged by hurricane Sandy, got it right. Ducked the question, as usual. You don't know about your own state, do you. What does the election being close have to do with how long it take to count the votes? LOL It should only delay calling the election by projection, until all votes are counted, which should have occurred election night. No recount was involved. Regards, LelandJ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d707f.1040...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
Here in London I have waited 2 minutes at most. Walk in, hand card to staff, confirm name address, walk to booth and tick a few boxes. Most schools here are used for voting (they are closed for the day) I've never needed to walk more than half a mile (but I'm a city dweller). On 9 November 2012 20:31, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: I live in australia. We would be unlucky to queue 30 minutes to vote. We know how many people are going to vote so we staff the polling booths accordingly. I struggle to understand how such a simple supply and demand equation can so elude so many american voting authorities. Mind you we have ONE electoral authority while I am guessing you have somewhere between 50 and 200? A bit like you have 7000 police forces and we have 7. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 12:38 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 06:10 AM, geoff wrote: They were hanging back from counting in case florida went down to the wire and they could cheat... again. And think about it... doesnt that just have that delicious taste of truth about it? The Florida voting process seemed to deliberately be trying to suppress the vote by making the process inefficient, resulting in long lines that could take up to seven or eight hours to reach the voting booth. LOL Regards, LelandJ -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 6:23 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 01:37 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: On 11/09/2012 02:30 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results What would Texas have done, given that close a result? Perhaps the Florida officials responsible for running the elections should consult with an expert on the subject to find opportunities how the Florida voting system might be improved. I'm sure there are some fine experts, as the other 49 states, including NY and NJ, that were ravaged by hurricane Sandy, got it right. Ducked the question, as usual. You don't know about your own state, do you. What does the election being close have to do with how long it take to count the votes? LOL It should only delay calling the election by projection, until all votes are counted, which should have occurred election night. No recount was involved. Regards, LelandJ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cadwx0++m932gcevn_p97a1n2nqfpwv2pfgzqigrcrnavrgp...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
Fortunately, most western democracies treat the vote as sacred - not something that can be taken away. Here in Australia everyone is entitled to vote unless they are actually in jail at the time serving a current sentence of 5 years or more. The only other people denied the vote are the declared mentally incompetent and the current head of state (the governor-general). and the 'ridiculousness' of the ballot is a poor excuse. it is a relatively simple matter of demand management. And so I question WHY there are always queues and why voting is encouraged on one hand and then actively denied by inadequate polling stations. And then you have the idiocy of florida even choosing not to count absentee and postal votes 'unless it is close'. who determines that? -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 7:08 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks If 50 years ago that drunken fight resulted in a felony conviction, then yes you have forfeited your right to vote. Keep in mind that that doesn't stop people from voting anyway. I don't understand the queues either but it might have a bit to do with the ridiculousness of some of the ballots. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 12:27 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: Why shouldnt they? Surely in any democracy the right to vote should only be denied under extreme situations and certianly not that 50 years ago you got into a drunken fight and hit someone. For a democracy, you americans seem quite keen on denying the vote to as many as you can either by legislation or by creating such queues that people give up. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 4:54 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks Why should criminals (felons specifically) be allowed to vote? Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:19 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: I have to say that as an observer of your voting system that it sucks almost beyond belief. You have queues where people stand half a day to vote when an obvious and rather simple solution is more machines and more staff. You have officials trying to rig the system, Florida denying the vote to those with a criminal record etc etc. Is there any wonder that other countries sent observers to ensure that your elections are free and fair? -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 5:28 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 12:32 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results Hi Leland, What would Texas have done, given that close a result? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/001501cdbec0$dcf2a460$96d7ed20$@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
Its a pretty bad sign I admit... Have you seen the new TV show 'last Resort'? 10 years ago such a show would be viewed as silly fiction. Now it is being made because of an intense distrust - among americans - of their democratic institutions. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 7:37 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks But they are the free world. LOL With Guantanamo, the patriot's act, police brutality, etc. Just another police state. El 09/11/12 17:31, geoff escribió: I live in australia. We would be unlucky to queue 30 minutes to vote. We know how many people are going to vote so we staff the polling booths accordingly. I struggle to understand how such a simple supply and demand equation can so elude so many american voting authorities. Mind you we have ONE electoral authority while I am guessing you have somewhere between 50 and 200? A bit like you have 7000 police forces and we have 7. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 12:38 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 06:10 AM, geoff wrote: They were hanging back from counting in case florida went down to the wire and they could cheat... again. And think about it... doesnt that just have that delicious taste of truth about it? The Florida voting process seemed to deliberately be trying to suppress the vote by making the process inefficient, resulting in long lines that could take up to seven or eight hours to reach the voting booth. LOL Regards, LelandJ -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 6:23 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 01:37 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: On 11/09/2012 02:30 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results What would Texas have done, given that close a result? Perhaps the Florida officials responsible for running the elections should consult with an expert on the subject to find opportunities how the Florida voting system might be improved. I'm sure there are some fine experts, as the other 49 states, including NY and NJ, that were ravaged by hurricane Sandy, got it right. Ducked the question, as usual. You don't know about your own state, do you. What does the election being close have to do with how long it take to count the votes? LOL It should only delay calling the election by projection, until all votes are counted, which should have occurred election night. No recount was involved. Regards, LelandJ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/001601cdbec1$aa6231e0$ff2695a0$@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
I don't disagree with the vote being sacred and, as such, people who fail to avail themselves of it do a great disservice and not just to themselves. I was not offering the ballot as an excuse, merely wondering if they might contribute to the long queues. I'm not even going to start on the lunacy that exists with counting ballots in Florida. Every vote is supposed to count but maybe not. I understand some of the difficulties with provisional ballots but that doesn't mean that one single vote should go uncounted. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 1:26 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: Fortunately, most western democracies treat the vote as sacred - not something that can be taken away. Here in Australia everyone is entitled to vote unless they are actually in jail at the time serving a current sentence of 5 years or more. The only other people denied the vote are the declared mentally incompetent and the current head of state (the governor-general). and the 'ridiculousness' of the ballot is a poor excuse. it is a relatively simple matter of demand management. And so I question WHY there are always queues and why voting is encouraged on one hand and then actively denied by inadequate polling stations. And then you have the idiocy of florida even choosing not to count absentee and postal votes 'unless it is close'. who determines that? -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 7:08 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks If 50 years ago that drunken fight resulted in a felony conviction, then yes you have forfeited your right to vote. Keep in mind that that doesn't stop people from voting anyway. I don't understand the queues either but it might have a bit to do with the ridiculousness of some of the ballots. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 12:27 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: Why shouldnt they? Surely in any democracy the right to vote should only be denied under extreme situations and certianly not that 50 years ago you got into a drunken fight and hit someone. For a democracy, you americans seem quite keen on denying the vote to as many as you can either by legislation or by creating such queues that people give up. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 4:54 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks Why should criminals (felons specifically) be allowed to vote? Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:19 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: I have to say that as an observer of your voting system that it sucks almost beyond belief. You have queues where people stand half a day to vote when an obvious and rather simple solution is more machines and more staff. You have officials trying to rig the system, Florida denying the vote to those with a criminal record etc etc. Is there any wonder that other countries sent observers to ensure that your elections are free and fair? -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 5:28 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 12:32 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results Hi Leland, What would Texas have done, given that close a result? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/d34ad889-4aaa-40d1-8431-414535b3e...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
Ive waited 30mins if I arrive at peak time. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hill Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 7:52 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks Here in London I have waited 2 minutes at most. Walk in, hand card to staff, confirm name address, walk to booth and tick a few boxes. Most schools here are used for voting (they are closed for the day) I've never needed to walk more than half a mile (but I'm a city dweller). On 9 November 2012 20:31, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: I live in australia. We would be unlucky to queue 30 minutes to vote. We know how many people are going to vote so we staff the polling booths accordingly. I struggle to understand how such a simple supply and demand equation can so elude so many american voting authorities. Mind you we have ONE electoral authority while I am guessing you have somewhere between 50 and 200? A bit like you have 7000 police forces and we have 7. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 12:38 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 06:10 AM, geoff wrote: They were hanging back from counting in case florida went down to the wire and they could cheat... again. And think about it... doesnt that just have that delicious taste of truth about it? The Florida voting process seemed to deliberately be trying to suppress the vote by making the process inefficient, resulting in long lines that could take up to seven or eight hours to reach the voting booth. LOL Regards, LelandJ -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 6:23 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 01:37 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: On 11/09/2012 02:30 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results What would Texas have done, given that close a result? Perhaps the Florida officials responsible for running the elections should consult with an expert on the subject to find opportunities how the Florida voting system might be improved. I'm sure there are some fine experts, as the other 49 states, including NY and NJ, that were ravaged by hurricane Sandy, got it right. Ducked the question, as usual. You don't know about your own state, do you. What does the election being close have to do with how long it take to count the votes? LOL It should only delay calling the election by projection, until all votes are counted, which should have occurred election night. No recount was involved. Regards, LelandJ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/002001cdbec4$8034e4f0$809eaed0$@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
it sounds like a monty python sketch... 'every vote is sacred... -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 8:12 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks I don't disagree with the vote being sacred and, as such, people who fail to avail themselves of it do a great disservice and not just to themselves. I was not offering the ballot as an excuse, merely wondering if they might contribute to the long queues. I'm not even going to start on the lunacy that exists with counting ballots in Florida. Every vote is supposed to count but maybe not. I understand some of the difficulties with provisional ballots but that doesn't mean that one single vote should go uncounted. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 1:26 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: Fortunately, most western democracies treat the vote as sacred - not something that can be taken away. Here in Australia everyone is entitled to vote unless they are actually in jail at the time serving a current sentence of 5 years or more. The only other people denied the vote are the declared mentally incompetent and the current head of state (the governor-general). and the 'ridiculousness' of the ballot is a poor excuse. it is a relatively simple matter of demand management. And so I question WHY there are always queues and why voting is encouraged on one hand and then actively denied by inadequate polling stations. And then you have the idiocy of florida even choosing not to count absentee and postal votes 'unless it is close'. who determines that? -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 7:08 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks If 50 years ago that drunken fight resulted in a felony conviction, then yes you have forfeited your right to vote. Keep in mind that that doesn't stop people from voting anyway. I don't understand the queues either but it might have a bit to do with the ridiculousness of some of the ballots. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 12:27 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: Why shouldnt they? Surely in any democracy the right to vote should only be denied under extreme situations and certianly not that 50 years ago you got into a drunken fight and hit someone. For a democracy, you americans seem quite keen on denying the vote to as many as you can either by legislation or by creating such queues that people give up. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 4:54 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks Why should criminals (felons specifically) be allowed to vote? Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:19 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: I have to say that as an observer of your voting system that it sucks almost beyond belief. You have queues where people stand half a day to vote when an obvious and rather simple solution is more machines and more staff. You have officials trying to rig the system, Florida denying the vote to those with a criminal record etc etc. Is there any wonder that other countries sent observers to ensure that your elections are free and fair? -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 5:28 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 12:32 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results Hi Leland, What would Texas have done, given that close a result? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/002101cdbec4$9f873c40$de95b4c0$@com.au ** All postings, unless
VFP9SP2 apps on Windows 7 boxes
I'm buying a new desktop (yes, desktop) to serve as a new dev machine/code repository in my home office. I'm still designing VFP9SP2 apps on the side. I'm configuring a Dell Vostro 260 mini tower. For the OS, the default is Windows Home Premium. Add $70 to go to Windows 7 Professional. For VFP apps, they should work with the Home version, right? No sense spending the extra $70 if I don't need to. Your thoughts? tia, --Mike -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d7b59.6030...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
It might be at that. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 1:53 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: it sounds like a monty python sketch... 'every vote is sacred... -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 8:12 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks I don't disagree with the vote being sacred and, as such, people who fail to avail themselves of it do a great disservice and not just to themselves. I was not offering the ballot as an excuse, merely wondering if they might contribute to the long queues. I'm not even going to start on the lunacy that exists with counting ballots in Florida. Every vote is supposed to count but maybe not. I understand some of the difficulties with provisional ballots but that doesn't mean that one single vote should go uncounted. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 1:26 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: Fortunately, most western democracies treat the vote as sacred - not something that can be taken away. Here in Australia everyone is entitled to vote unless they are actually in jail at the time serving a current sentence of 5 years or more. The only other people denied the vote are the declared mentally incompetent and the current head of state (the governor-general). and the 'ridiculousness' of the ballot is a poor excuse. it is a relatively simple matter of demand management. And so I question WHY there are always queues and why voting is encouraged on one hand and then actively denied by inadequate polling stations. And then you have the idiocy of florida even choosing not to count absentee and postal votes 'unless it is close'. who determines that? -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 7:08 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks If 50 years ago that drunken fight resulted in a felony conviction, then yes you have forfeited your right to vote. Keep in mind that that doesn't stop people from voting anyway. I don't understand the queues either but it might have a bit to do with the ridiculousness of some of the ballots. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 12:27 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: Why shouldnt they? Surely in any democracy the right to vote should only be denied under extreme situations and certianly not that 50 years ago you got into a drunken fight and hit someone. For a democracy, you americans seem quite keen on denying the vote to as many as you can either by legislation or by creating such queues that people give up. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 4:54 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks Why should criminals (felons specifically) be allowed to vote? Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:19 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: I have to say that as an observer of your voting system that it sucks almost beyond belief. You have queues where people stand half a day to vote when an obvious and rather simple solution is more machines and more staff. You have officials trying to rig the system, Florida denying the vote to those with a criminal record etc etc. Is there any wonder that other countries sent observers to ensure that your elections are free and fair? -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 5:28 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 12:32 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results Hi Leland, What would Texas have done, given that close a result? -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:
RE: VFP9SP2 apps on Windows 7 boxes
MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote on 2012-11-09: I'm buying a new desktop (yes, desktop) to serve as a new dev machine/code repository in my home office. I'm still designing VFP9SP2 apps on the side. I'm configuring a Dell Vostro 260 mini tower. For the OS, the default is Windows Home Premium. Add $70 to go to Windows 7 Professional. For VFP apps, they should work with the Home version, right? No sense spending the extra $70 if I don't need to. Your thoughts? tia, --Mike Mike, What stands out to me that is different between Home Premium and Professional is the ability to connect to a domain. VFP apps run in Home Starter. I've not installed VFP 9 itself into that OS. I wouldn't expect it wouldn't work. Premium has the Areo Glass, where the lower versions don't. Tracy Pearson PowerChurch Software ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000601cdbec5$b7631090$262931b0$@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP9SP2 apps on Windows 7 boxes
If you just get premium you can get the win8 pro upgrade instead. In fact you could get that from XP too. Al Sent from Windows Mail From: MB Software Solutions, LLC I'm buying a new desktop (yes, desktop) to serve as a new dev machine/code repository in my home office. I'm still designing VFP9SP2 apps on the side. I'm configuring a Dell Vostro 260 mini tower. For the OS, the default is Windows Home Premium. Add $70 to go to Windows 7 Professional. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/0lknvv-1swvxr14lr-00a...@mrelayeu.kundenserver.de ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9SP2 apps on Windows 7 boxes
On 11/9/2012 5:01 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote: Mike, What stands out to me that is different between Home Premium and Professional is the ability to connect to a domain. VFP apps run in Home Starter. I've not installed VFP 9 itself into that OS. I wouldn't expect it wouldn't work. Premium has the Areo Glass, where the lower versions don't. Does the Aero Glass come into play for any VFP apps? Slicker UI? -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d815b.2090...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9SP2 apps on Windows 7 boxes
3On 9 November 2012 22:19, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: On 11/9/2012 5:01 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote: Mike, What stands out to me that is different between Home Premium and Professional is the ability to connect to a domain. VFP apps run in Home Starter. I've not installed VFP 9 itself into that OS. I wouldn't expect it wouldn't work. Premium has the Areo Glass, where the lower versions don't. Does the Aero Glass come into play for any VFP apps? Slicker UI? I'm pretty sure Home Premium has Aero. Unless you need to join a domain go for this. Home (not Premium) only supports 32 bit, not 64bit. FYI my personal laptop has Home Premium. Runs VFP Visual Studio 2010 just fine. It's a cheap dual core, 64bit Celeron. -- Paul --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CADwx0+JGa=NN=xvkwMVYVMk=-tiwk8xkuaacslpx37vr8ar...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
Here the polling stations are open from early morning until 10pm (always on a Thursday). Normally I go in the evening after work maybe peak hours are be different. Pretty scary seeing the queues in the USA. I know they vote on everything (local dog catcher - or is that a myth?). As you pointed out they simply need more places to vote. On 9 November 2012 21:52, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: Ive waited 30mins if I arrive at peak time. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hill Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 7:52 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks Here in London I have waited 2 minutes at most. Walk in, hand card to staff, confirm name address, walk to booth and tick a few boxes. -- Paul --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CADwx0+JQUNhqVt6rMJMW11oM_dy-aWr=k861o01tjjl7yib...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9SP2 apps on Windows 7 boxes
On 11/9/2012 5:31 PM, Paul Hill wrote: I'm pretty sure Home Premium has Aero. Unless you need to join a domain go for this. Home (not Premium) only supports 32 bit, not 64bit. Well, seeing how VFP apps are 32-bit, and this is mostly for that (at this time), that's why I was thinking this would be fine. And it's my home office, so no domain needs. Just ODBC out to a MySQL database on the web. FYI my personal laptop has Home Premium. Runs VFP Visual Studio 2010 just fine. It's a cheap dual core, 64bit Celeron. Thanks for the info. -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d86b9.4030...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP9SP2 apps on Windows 7 boxes
Mike, With the latest costing, Win 8 could be cheaper.. and it's VFP friendly as well. Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions, LLC Sent: 09 November 2012 21:53 To: ProFox Email List Subject: VFP9SP2 apps on Windows 7 boxes I'm buying a new desktop (yes, desktop) to serve as a new dev machine/code repository in my home office. I'm still designing VFP9SP2 apps on the side. I'm configuring a Dell Vostro 260 mini tower. For the OS, the default is Windows Home Premium. Add $70 to go to Windows 7 Professional. For VFP apps, they should work with the Home version, right? No sense spending the extra $70 if I don't need to. Your thoughts? tia, --Mike -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/01cdbecc$71c64f00$5552ed00$@co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9SP2 apps on Windows 7 boxes
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 4:42 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: On 11/9/2012 5:31 PM, Paul Hill wrote: I'm pretty sure Home Premium has Aero. Unless you need to join a domain go for this. Home (not Premium) only supports 32 bit, not 64bit. Well, seeing how VFP apps are 32-bit, and this is mostly for that (at this time), that's why I was thinking this would be fine. And it's my home office, so no domain needs. Just ODBC out to a MySQL database on the web. FYI my personal laptop has Home Premium. Runs VFP Visual Studio 2010 just fine. It's a cheap dual core, 64bit Celeron. I would only go for 64 bit and also buy Win8 as the OS. That way you are ahead of the curve before your clients buy it and you have to make an installer for it. Just saying. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Analyst Ring Container Technology Oakland TN 901.246-0159 cell --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cajidmykkrw_ebf0odb4el+ktbd1ypcrxqbgxh2pxhjnubwt...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP9SP2 apps on Windows 7 boxes
I don't see how the version has any relevance as to whether your VFP stuff will run. I work all day on 1 64 bit W7 system with no problems; Aero or otherwise. The only question would be if you need to simulate a domain style environment for some reason. -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions, LLC Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 5:42 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: VFP9SP2 apps on Windows 7 boxes On 11/9/2012 5:31 PM, Paul Hill wrote: I'm pretty sure Home Premium has Aero. Unless you need to join a domain go for this. Home (not Premium) only supports 32 bit, not 64bit. Well, seeing how VFP apps are 32-bit, and this is mostly for that (at this time), that's why I was thinking this would be fine. And it's my home office, so no domain needs. Just ODBC out to a MySQL database on the web. FYI my personal laptop has Home Premium. Runs VFP Visual Studio 2010 just fine. It's a cheap dual core, 64bit Celeron. Thanks for the info. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/DF1EEF11E586A64FB54A97F22A8BD0442178306040@ACKBWDDQH1.artfact.local ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP9SP2 apps on Windows 7 boxes
MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote on 2012-11-09: On 11/9/2012 5:01 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote: Mike, What stands out to me that is different between Home Premium and Professional is the ability to connect to a domain. VFP apps run in Home Starter. I've not installed VFP 9 itself into that OS. I wouldn't expect it wouldn't work. Premium has the Areo Glass, where the lower versions don't. Does the Aero Glass come into play for any VFP apps? Slicker UI? Mike, Personal experience. No. There was a pain factor for a while. Tracy Pearson PowerChurch Software ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000701cdbece$2dfd2e40$89f78ac0$@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Editbox in a grid behavior
Is there a way to prevent the edit box from getting smaller when the row is clicked on? Grid.AllowCellSelection = .F. Grid.Column.EditBox.Margin = 0 Any ideas? Tracy ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000801cdbecf$fb0c7de0$f12579a0$@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
No, haven't seen it, but will see if any of the cable signals has got it. Nevertheless I've seen hundreds of series and movies where yanks extoll vigilantism, justify police power abuse and entrapment, and countless other practices that go against freedom and democracy under the excuse that the system does not work. And then they fill their mouths saying they fight for freedom, or democracy, as if they were the only democratic or free country. They are also dumb enough to equate both words, which is of course a major stupidity. El 09/11/12 18:32, geoff escribió: Its a pretty bad sign I admit... Have you seen the new TV show 'last Resort'? 10 years ago such a show would be viewed as silly fiction. Now it is being made because of an intense distrust - among americans - of their democratic institutions. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 7:37 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks But they are the free world. LOL With Guantanamo, the patriot's act, police brutality, etc. Just another police state. El 09/11/12 17:31, geoff escribió: I live in australia. We would be unlucky to queue 30 minutes to vote. We know how many people are going to vote so we staff the polling booths accordingly. I struggle to understand how such a simple supply and demand equation can so elude so many american voting authorities. Mind you we have ONE electoral authority while I am guessing you have somewhere between 50 and 200? A bit like you have 7000 police forces and we have 7. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 12:38 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 06:10 AM, geoff wrote: They were hanging back from counting in case florida went down to the wire and they could cheat... again. And think about it... doesnt that just have that delicious taste of truth about it? The Florida voting process seemed to deliberately be trying to suppress the vote by making the process inefficient, resulting in long lines that could take up to seven or eight hours to reach the voting booth. LOL Regards, LelandJ -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 6:23 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 01:37 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: On 11/09/2012 02:30 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results What would Texas have done, given that close a result? Perhaps the Florida officials responsible for running the elections should consult with an expert on the subject to find opportunities how the Florida voting system might be improved. I'm sure there are some fine experts, as the other 49 states, including NY and NJ, that were ravaged by hurricane Sandy, got it right. Ducked the question, as usual. You don't know about your own state, do you. What does the election being close have to do with how long it take to count the votes? LOL It should only delay calling the election by projection, until all votes are counted, which should have occurred election night. No recount was involved. Regards, LelandJ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d9156.5080...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9SP2 apps on Windows 7 boxes
On 11/09/12 13:53, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: For VFP apps, they should work with the Home version, right? No sense spending the extra $70 if I don't need to. I've done all my VFP work on Home Premium (64-bit) for a couple years now. No problems, except you need to remember to do _screen.Themes = .F. in your startup, which you probably have done already anyway. Dan Covill ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509d9c29.8080...@san.rr.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP9SP2 apps on Windows 7 boxes
Dan Covill wrote on 2012-11-09: On 11/09/12 13:53, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: For VFP apps, they should work with the Home version, right? No sense spending the extra $70 if I don't need to. I've done all my VFP work on Home Premium (64-bit) for a couple years now. No problems, except you need to remember to do _screen.Themes = .F. in your startup, which you probably have done already anyway. Dan Covill Dan, Why do you need to do that? Tracy Pearson PowerChurch Software ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000901cdbed8$bc830950$35891bf0$@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9SP2 apps on Windows 7 boxes
Hi, Tracy Some features of forms interact with the current Windows theme, resulting in weird colors and shapes depending on the theme selected. I think this started in VFP 8 or 9. You can set the .Themes property to .F. for a single form or for _screen. I always set it for _screen at the beginning and forget about. I think Tamar Granor is one of the authorities in that area. Dan On 11/09/12 16:17, Tracy Pearson wrote: Dan Covill wrote on 2012-11-09: On 11/09/12 13:53, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: For VFP apps, they should work with the Home version, right? No sense spending the extra $70 if I don't need to. I've done all my VFP work on Home Premium (64-bit) for a couple years now. No problems, except you need to remember to do _screen.Themes = .F. in your startup, which you probably have done already anyway. Dan Covill Dan, Why do you need to do that? Tracy Pearson PowerChurch Software ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509da022.4040...@san.rr.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9SP2 apps on Windows 7 boxes
Dan Covill dcov...@san.rr.com wrote: Hi, Tracy Some features of forms interact with the current Windows theme, resulting in weird colors and shapes depending on the theme selected. I think this started in VFP 8 or 9. You can set the .Themes property to .F. for a single form or for _screen. I always set it for _screen at the beginning and forget about. I think Tamar Granor is one of the authorities in that area. Dan So you do that for you're compiled exe. Not in the IDE? Just clarifying. -- Tracy ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/413c70b0-cebb-4465-ae80-35b9fe7b5...@email.android.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
On 11/09/2012 03:42 PM, Michael Oke wrote: I don't disagree with the vote being sacred and, as such, people who fail to avail themselves of it do a great disservice and not just to themselves. I was not offering the ballot as an excuse, merely wondering if they might contribute to the long queues. I'm not even going to start on the lunacy that exists with counting ballots in Florida. Every vote is supposed to count but maybe not. I understand some of the difficulties with provisional ballots but that doesn't mean that one single vote should go uncounted. OK. I understand how provisional ballots can delay the announcement of the outcome of a close election, and also how provisional ballots can be used to manipulate elections. LOL I wasn't aware that provisional ballots existed, so they are new to me. #-- Excerpt: Potential problems At their best, provisional ballots provide voters who would otherwise be turned away from the polls to have their votes counted, but at their worst, the offer of a provisional ballot can be a way to brush off troublesome voters by letting them think they have voted. It is possible for parties to force certain voters to cast provisional ballots so they can suppress the vote total of an opponent being counted on election night. In the 2004 US Presidential Election, controversy arose out of arguments regarding the interpretation of the criteria for determining the eligibility of voters using provisional ballots. Many allege that these discrepancies of interpretations, particularly in Ohio, may have been a deciding factor in the outcome of the election. In the 2004 election, at least 1.9 million provisional ballots were cast, and 676,000 were never counted due to various states' rules on counting provisional ballots. Studies of the use of provisional ballots in the 2006 general election in the United States show that around 21% of provisional ballots were rejected, where the majority of rejected ballots were cast by registered voters and the majority of rejections were for reasons that were preventable.[6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_ballot #- Regards, LelandJ Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 1:26 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: Fortunately, most western democracies treat the vote as sacred - not something that can be taken away. Here in Australia everyone is entitled to vote unless they are actually in jail at the time serving a current sentence of 5 years or more. The only other people denied the vote are the declared mentally incompetent and the current head of state (the governor-general). and the 'ridiculousness' of the ballot is a poor excuse. it is a relatively simple matter of demand management. And so I question WHY there are always queues and why voting is encouraged on one hand and then actively denied by inadequate polling stations. And then you have the idiocy of florida even choosing not to count absentee and postal votes 'unless it is close'. who determines that? -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 7:08 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks If 50 years ago that drunken fight resulted in a felony conviction, then yes you have forfeited your right to vote. Keep in mind that that doesn't stop people from voting anyway. I don't understand the queues either but it might have a bit to do with the ridiculousness of some of the ballots. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 12:27 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: Why shouldnt they? Surely in any democracy the right to vote should only be denied under extreme situations and certianly not that 50 years ago you got into a drunken fight and hit someone. For a democracy, you americans seem quite keen on denying the vote to as many as you can either by legislation or by creating such queues that people give up. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 4:54 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks Why should criminals (felons specifically) be allowed to vote? Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:19 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: I have to say that as an observer of your voting system that it sucks almost beyond belief. You have queues where people stand half a day to vote when an obvious and rather simple solution is more machines and more staff. You have officials trying to rig the system, Florida denying the
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
On 11/09/2012 09:01 PM, lelandj wrote: On 11/09/2012 03:42 PM, Michael Oke wrote: I don't disagree with the vote being sacred and, as such, people who fail to avail themselves of it do a great disservice and not just to themselves. I was not offering the ballot as an excuse, merely wondering if they might contribute to the long queues. I'm not even going to start on the lunacy that exists with counting ballots in Florida. Every vote is supposed to count but maybe not. I understand some of the difficulties with provisional ballots but that doesn't mean that one single vote should go uncounted. OK. I understand how provisional ballots can delay the announcement of the outcome of a close election, and also how provisional ballots can be used to manipulate elections. LOL I wasn't aware that provisional ballots existed, so they are new to me. #-- Excerpt: Potential problems At their best, provisional ballots provide voters who would otherwise be turned away from the polls to have their votes counted, but at their worst, the offer of a provisional ballot can be a way to brush off troublesome voters by letting them think they have voted. It is possible for parties to force certain voters to cast provisional ballots so they can suppress the vote total of an opponent being counted on election night. In the 2004 US Presidential Election, controversy arose out of arguments regarding the interpretation of the criteria for determining the eligibility of voters using provisional ballots. Many allege that these discrepancies of interpretations, particularly in Ohio, may have been a deciding factor in the outcome of the election. In the 2004 election, at least 1.9 million provisional ballots were cast, and 676,000 were never counted due to various states' rules on counting provisional ballots. Studies of the use of provisional ballots in the 2006 general election in the United States show that around 21% of provisional ballots were rejected, where the majority of rejected ballots were cast by registered voters and the majority of rejections were for reasons that were preventable.[6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_ballot #- Regards, LelandJ Here's more: http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20565-2004Nov3.html Regards, LelandJ Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 1:26 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: Fortunately, most western democracies treat the vote as sacred - not something that can be taken away. Here in Australia everyone is entitled to vote unless they are actually in jail at the time serving a current sentence of 5 years or more. The only other people denied the vote are the declared mentally incompetent and the current head of state (the governor-general). and the 'ridiculousness' of the ballot is a poor excuse. it is a relatively simple matter of demand management. And so I question WHY there are always queues and why voting is encouraged on one hand and then actively denied by inadequate polling stations. And then you have the idiocy of florida even choosing not to count absentee and postal votes 'unless it is close'. who determines that? -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 7:08 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks If 50 years ago that drunken fight resulted in a felony conviction, then yes you have forfeited your right to vote. Keep in mind that that doesn't stop people from voting anyway. I don't understand the queues either but it might have a bit to do with the ridiculousness of some of the ballots. Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 9, 2012, at 12:27 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: Why shouldnt they? Surely in any democracy the right to vote should only be denied under extreme situations and certianly not that 50 years ago you got into a drunken fight and hit someone. For a democracy, you americans seem quite keen on denying the vote to as many as you can either by legislation or by creating such queues that people give up. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 4:54 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks Why should criminals (felons specifically) be allowed to vote? Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 Contents of this and all messages are intended for their designated recipient. On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:19 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote: I have to say that as an observer of your voting system that it sucks almost beyond belief. You have queues where people
Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
On 11/09/2012 03:32 PM, geoff wrote: Its a pretty bad sign I admit... Have you seen the new TV show 'last Resort'? 10 years ago such a show would be viewed as silly fiction. Now it is being made because of an intense distrust - among americans - of their democratic institutions. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 7:37 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks But they are the free world. LOL With Guantanamo, the patriot's act, police brutality, etc. Just another police state. El 09/11/12 17:31, geoff escribió: I live in australia. We would be unlucky to queue 30 minutes to vote. We know how many people are going to vote so we staff the polling booths accordingly. I struggle to understand how such a simple supply and demand equation can so elude so many american voting authorities. Mind you we have ONE electoral authority while I am guessing you have somewhere between 50 and 200? A bit like you have 7000 police forces and we have 7. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 12:38 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 06:10 AM, geoff wrote: They were hanging back from counting in case florida went down to the wire and they could cheat... again. And think about it... doesnt that just have that delicious taste of truth about it? The Florida voting process seemed to deliberately be trying to suppress the vote by making the process inefficient, resulting in long lines that could take up to seven or eight hours to reach the voting booth. LOL Regards, LelandJ -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 6:23 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 01:37 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: On 11/09/2012 02:30 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results What would Texas have done, given that close a result? Perhaps the Florida officials responsible for running the elections should consult with an expert on the subject to find opportunities how the Florida voting system might be improved. I'm sure there are some fine experts, as the other 49 states, including NY and NJ, that were ravaged by hurricane Sandy, got it right. Ducked the question, as usual. You don't know about your own state, do you. What does the election being close have to do with how long it take to count the votes? LOL It should only delay calling the election by projection, until all votes are counted, which should have occurred election night. No recount was involved. Regards, LelandJ Last resort is one of my favorites. Regards, LelandJ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/509dc696.7000...@mail.smvfp.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
The more I read about the American voting system the worse it gets. It would barely register as a D- on a scale of democratic processes. A cynical view would be that the voting system is there to be manipulated and to brazenly cheat the voting public of their right to choose. It explains GWB so much. he didn't actually win the vote at all. He won the manipulation of the system. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 1:45 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 03:32 PM, geoff wrote: Its a pretty bad sign I admit... Have you seen the new TV show 'last Resort'? 10 years ago such a show would be viewed as silly fiction. Now it is being made because of an intense distrust - among americans - of their democratic institutions. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 7:37 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks But they are the free world. LOL With Guantanamo, the patriot's act, police brutality, etc. Just another police state. El 09/11/12 17:31, geoff escribió: I live in australia. We would be unlucky to queue 30 minutes to vote. We know how many people are going to vote so we staff the polling booths accordingly. I struggle to understand how such a simple supply and demand equation can so elude so many american voting authorities. Mind you we have ONE electoral authority while I am guessing you have somewhere between 50 and 200? A bit like you have 7000 police forces and we have 7. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 12:38 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 06:10 AM, geoff wrote: They were hanging back from counting in case florida went down to the wire and they could cheat... again. And think about it... doesnt that just have that delicious taste of truth about it? The Florida voting process seemed to deliberately be trying to suppress the vote by making the process inefficient, resulting in long lines that could take up to seven or eight hours to reach the voting booth. LOL Regards, LelandJ -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 6:23 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 01:37 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: On 11/09/2012 02:30 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results What would Texas have done, given that close a result? Perhaps the Florida officials responsible for running the elections should consult with an expert on the subject to find opportunities how the Florida voting system might be improved. I'm sure there are some fine experts, as the other 49 states, including NY and NJ, that were ravaged by hurricane Sandy, got it right. Ducked the question, as usual. You don't know about your own state, do you. What does the election being close have to do with how long it take to count the votes? LOL It should only delay calling the election by projection, until all votes are counted, which should have occurred election night. No recount was involved. Regards, LelandJ Last resort is one of my favorites. Regards, LelandJ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/002601cdbefc$63ba4440$2b2eccc0$@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks
It is an interesting show for me because it seems to indicate that a growing number of people no longer trust their govt to be truly democratic or to be servants of the people. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 9:57 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks No, haven't seen it, but will see if any of the cable signals has got it. Nevertheless I've seen hundreds of series and movies where yanks extoll vigilantism, justify police power abuse and entrapment, and countless other practices that go against freedom and democracy under the excuse that the system does not work. And then they fill their mouths saying they fight for freedom, or democracy, as if they were the only democratic or free country. They are also dumb enough to equate both words, which is of course a major stupidity. El 09/11/12 18:32, geoff escribió: Its a pretty bad sign I admit... Have you seen the new TV show 'last Resort'? 10 years ago such a show would be viewed as silly fiction. Now it is being made because of an intense distrust - among americans - of their democratic institutions. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 7:37 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks But they are the free world. LOL With Guantanamo, the patriot's act, police brutality, etc. Just another police state. El 09/11/12 17:31, geoff escribió: I live in australia. We would be unlucky to queue 30 minutes to vote. We know how many people are going to vote so we staff the polling booths accordingly. I struggle to understand how such a simple supply and demand equation can so elude so many american voting authorities. Mind you we have ONE electoral authority while I am guessing you have somewhere between 50 and 200? A bit like you have 7000 police forces and we have 7. -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2012 12:38 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 06:10 AM, geoff wrote: They were hanging back from counting in case florida went down to the wire and they could cheat... again. And think about it... doesnt that just have that delicious taste of truth about it? The Florida voting process seemed to deliberately be trying to suppress the vote by making the process inefficient, resulting in long lines that could take up to seven or eight hours to reach the voting booth. LOL Regards, LelandJ -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of lelandj Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 6:23 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Florida's voting system sucks On 11/09/2012 01:37 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: On 11/09/2012 02:30 AM, lelandj wrote: Pete, can't Florida get her voting system together? LOL I'm glad the election didn't come down to Florida's 29 electoral votes; because, I'm pretty sure the Republican controlled state would have followed along the lines of the 2000 election that put GWB in office. Finally; three hours ago: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results What would Texas have done, given that close a result? Perhaps the Florida officials responsible for running the elections should consult with an expert on the subject to find opportunities how the Florida voting system might be improved. I'm sure there are some fine experts, as the other 49 states, including NY and NJ, that were ravaged by hurricane Sandy, got it right. Ducked the question, as usual. You don't know about your own state, do you. What does the election being close have to do with how long it take to count the votes? LOL It should only delay calling the election by projection, until all votes are counted, which should have occurred election night. No recount was involved. Regards, LelandJ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/002701cdbefc$96f29a10$c4d7ce30$@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
