Re: Re: [OT] More wasted money on green energy.

2011-09-10 Thread petetheisen
Hi Michael,No. They tried to get MLK and even Elvis.Obama is not only a colored 
person, he also has mob support. He will come through like Michael Corleone in 
the Movie. 

 

Regards,Pete 





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Re: Re: [OT] More wasted money on green energy.

2011-09-09 Thread petetheisen
Hi Leland,

 

It is a Dell notebook with ubuntu something, belongs to my sister. I guess it 
could have a rootkit. Before I went to the trouble of checking that I would 
just try it with a mouse rather than that damn touchpad.

 

That and understand that you simply CAN'T bottom post on webmail.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

 

 





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Re: Re: [OT] More wasted money on green energy.

2011-09-08 Thread petetheisen
They will reelect him for two reasons. 1) it would be RACIST not to and 2) the 
Rs will nominate a weak candidate. 

 

 





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Re: Re: [OT] More wasted money on green energy.

2011-09-08 Thread petetheisen
I am using verizon webmail. Terrible, just terrible. 

 

 





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Re: Re: [OT] More wasted money on green energy.

2011-09-08 Thread petetheisen
Hi Leland,Can't bottom post on verizon webmail. I was just marveling about how 
open minded and objective all the Ds were when they disagreed with 
Bush.Regards,Pete 

 

 





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Re: Re: [OT] More wasted money on green energy.

2011-09-08 Thread petetheisen
Hi Michael,Not a chance. It would be RACIST to hold any colored person 
accountable, ever.Regards,Pete 


 

 





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Re: Re: [OT] Some scary events in Republican party

2011-09-02 Thread petetheisen
Hi Leland,



You forgot "Pro Choice"? Seems I recall that your God has to be "Pro Choice".



Regards,



Pete









On 09/01/11,
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On 09/01/2011 03:14 PM, > You believe in God, don't you Leland?


That depends to which God you are referring.

I believe in a loving,
Regards,

Leland
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Re: Re: [OT] Some scary events in Republican party

2011-09-02 Thread petetheisen
Hi Leland,

 

Michael's figures are for one century. You are an accountant, perhaps even a 
CPA "expert". All religiously motivated deaths are wrong, however . . . Whip up 
some "religious righter" or  "Christian Evangelical" figures for any 
century or even all of recorded history that remotely approach those Michael 
posted.

 


Regards,

 

Pete

 

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lavish living, etc.

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Regards,

LelandJ



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[OT] Discriminated against for all 450 of their 17 years

2011-09-02 Thread petetheisen
Hi Everybody,

 


http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/a_violent_racist_game_claims_more_victims.html


 

Regards,

 

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Re: Re: [OT] Some scary events in Republican party

2011-08-31 Thread petetheisen
 Hi Leland,

 

I know for a fact that all the boarders at your house are at least Ds if not 
commies.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

 

 



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> There used to be a communist party in this country, you don't hear anything
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Re: RE: [OT] Some scary events in Republican party

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Hi Jerry,

 

I am glad you said that. If I had even thought it the D Nazis would have been 
all over me.

 


Regards,

 

Pete

 

 
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Re: Re: [OT] need help figuring this out

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Hi Michael,

 

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Nurses are cute, anyway.

 

Regards,

 

Pete


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Re: Re: [OT] need help figuring this out

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Hi Leland, Bob,

 

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Re: [OT] need help figuring this out

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Hi Michael,

 

The "cool" factor.

 

On another topic, I am in rehab with extensive injuries due to a fall.


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Re: [NF] Song Identification cool

2006-08-19 Thread petetheisen

Dave Crozier wrote:

A website where you can identify the song name by tabbing out the rhythm on
the keyboard.

http://www.songtapper.com

Brilliant! I wonder which Database they use for that?

I know it really should have been [OT] but it's too cool to keep to myself.


Hi Dave!

Oh, like those of us who participate in [OT] are not people. Good to 
know your true sentiment :-)


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Daily meditation on forgiveness

2006-08-18 Thread petetheisen

Stephen Russell wrote:

I know that some here see forgiveness in a different light.  Can you act
as the master or will you flip flop?

http://www.rc.net/wcc/readings/aug17.htm


Hi Stephen!

Well, if he is your brother, you keep loaning him money, getting him out 
of jail etc., for 4900 times. Then he messes up for the 4901st time and 
you say, "Brother, I have to start using tough love on you".


Regards,

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Re: [OT] Progress in Cuba

2006-08-15 Thread petetheisen

Ed Leafe wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/ksqpw


Hi Ed!

Stunning:

I keep saying, Ed's all right no matter how left he is. :-)



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(and on and on like that for pages and pages)

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Pete


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Re: [OT] Moving question

2006-08-15 Thread petetheisen

Tommy Swift wrote:
1) Trade your car for an older truck.. Drive your stuff to PA.. sell it 
and buy another small car

2) Rent a Ryder Truck with a tow behind car hauler
3) ABF Trucking has an option where they drop a trailer off at your 
place, you fill it up, and they pick it up and deliver it for you.. I 
used this when I moved from Florida to Ohio and was very reasonable.. 
The downfall is ABF is union so they wont pick-up/drop off on 
weekends..  http://www.upack.com/default.asp
4) Cheapest, but most uncomfortably.. Put your stuff in a storage 
building, pack your small car with daily essentials, sleep on the floor 
until you can go back and get your things.. :)   Look into the Extended 
Stay hotels as an option if you 'have' to sleep in a bed.


Hi Tommy!

The multiple trips in the car aren't going to be cheap with $3 gas. 
Rather obvious, call three major moving companies (North American, 
Bekins, Paul Arpin, Mayflower, Allied) for estimates, making it clear to 
the estimator that you are going to take the low shot. You would be 
surprised how cheap it is for what you get. I know, I drove a moving van 
for years, starved on those low rates.


They will even move the car for you, if you like. That might be cheaper 
than driving it.


Regards,

Pete

At 08:26 AM 8/15/2006 -0400, you wrote:

I need to move quickly back to PA from Michigan.  I've got enough 
stuff for a decent sized pickup truck, but I've only got a small car 
without a trailer hitch.  My challenge:  how do I get all of my stuff 
(again, could fit in a pick probably) back to PA in the most 
affordable way?




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Re: [OT] -- "Swift Boat" Veterans Set Sights on Rep. Murtha

2006-08-15 Thread petetheisen

Ed Leafe wrote:

On Aug 15, 2006, at 8:43 AM, Stephen the Cook wrote:


AWOL is for when you are away for less than 30 days. Longer than
that, it's considered desertion. Bush wasn't AWOL; he deserted.



Details details details.



Yeah, well, the difference is that while going AWOL can get you  
court martialed, imprisoned or discharged, desertion in time of war  is 
a capital offense and can result in execution.


Like you said: details.


Hi Ed!

Yeah, if he really did that. As far as I can see, the story is still 
another D delusion. The electorate evidently didn't believe it, Bush 
clearly won over "hero" Kerry.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] -- "Swift Boat" Veterans Set Sights on Rep. Murtha

2006-08-15 Thread petetheisen

Stephen the Cook wrote:

petetheisen <> wrote:
 


Hi Stephen!

I got an early out and I wasn't connected. The connections helped get
Bush into politics, but anyone could get an early out. Nearly
everyone did, in fact, one way or another.  



You went AWOL also?  


Hi Stephen!

Also? No one went AWOL, we got early outs, Honorable Discharge 
certificate and the whole other thing. War winding down and all that.


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Re: [NF] MySpace.com / Google deal [OT]

2006-08-14 Thread petetheisen

MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:

Ed Leafe wrote:

Uh, Mike, those years have already arrived. 14? Do you have any 
idea  what kids at that age are like?




Fortunately, my daughter is a very late bloomer.  I monitor the 
sites...she's not doing anything except Neopets and Disney.com.


Hi Michael!

There are a lot of squeaky clean sites on MySpace, but can you tell the 
difference from your remote?


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Just because you can take your laptop into the bathroom...

2006-08-14 Thread petetheisen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, August 14, 2006 1:50 pm
To: ProFox Email List 

Did you see how that H1-B freak was using his laptop? 
Why wouldn't you use it on your lap instead of a

piss-covered tile floor?

I'd hate to eat at his house, he probably wipes his
ass with his hand too.



I thought it was a female.   


Hi Stephen!

Submitted by "fritchbitch", presumably female so most likely taken in 
the woman's room. Certainly a small person in the pic, with manicured 
nails, some sort of bracelet, wearing jean shorts, brief or bikini 
underwear and flip-flops with no socks. I would say that a man would not 
be so flexible as to bend over far enough to type on the floor for very 
long. Thus, most likely female. Or a very *pretty* boy.


Regards,

Pete





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Re: [OT] -- "Swift Boat" Veterans Set Sights on Rep. Murtha

2006-08-14 Thread petetheisen

Bill Arnold wrote:
 


I guess I've become so
used to smear tactics that I'd be surprised if they didn't do it.


	"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that 
good men do nothing"




I can't tell you how many times I've thought "give up


Hi Bill!

Yes, by all means, give it up. As it is, you are part of the problem and 
not helpful at all with all this pseudo-psychology and treason talk.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Is that Arnold groping someone at the bottom?

2006-08-14 Thread petetheisen

Stephen Russell wrote:




Hi Stephen!

Cartoon, no telling. If I touch a woman on her shoulder blade, is that 
groping? Or is it groping only if she is cute?


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] -- "Swift Boat" Veterans Set Sights on Rep. Murtha

2006-08-14 Thread petetheisen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




Yes you had no problem when they created a phony memo
to smear Bush's military service.



What smear?  Bush stepped out of his responsibility to his country
because his family was connected.  He was following in the foot steps
of a great flier, up until he chickened out and dashed ducking a crying
into a lifetime of politics.  


Hi Stephen!

I got an early out and I wasn't connected. The connections helped get 
Bush into politics, but anyone could get an early out. Nearly everyone 
did, in fact, one way or another.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] -- "Swift Boat" Veterans Set Sights on Rep. Murtha

2006-08-14 Thread petetheisen

Michael Madigan wrote:

Yes you had no problem when they created a phony memo
to smear Bush's military service.

What a hypocrite.


Hi Michael!

Hypocrite? Who Ed? Our Ed? What a shame to have to think that.

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] -- "Swift Boat" Veterans Set Sights on Rep. Murtha

2006-08-14 Thread petetheisen

Bill Arnold wrote:

!   Support Our Troops!
!   (At Least Until They Come Home - The Tear Them To Shreds!)

By the way, being a veteran does not mean you are free later 
in life to make absurd, outlandish and opportunistic 
political accusations with impunity. Rep. Murtha isn't merely 
"disagreeing with the war"; his comments and actions go well 
beyond that, 




That's right. He wants our troops out of harm's way, and so do a lot of
other people.

This position is honest, as opposed to the idiotic


Hi Bill!

There you go, calling the opposition idiots. The sort of name-calling 
that the post was about. Thank you for proving Bob's point.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] to start the healing process

2006-08-13 Thread petetheisen

Michael Madigan wrote:

They live in America and hate America.  Kill them all.


Hi Michael!

You could leave the ones who don't actually practice fundamentalist
Islam. You could just kill the ones who have taken the pledge to kill
us. Better yet, chain them up and work them continuously. If God favors
them they will live through the work.

Regards,

Pete


--- john harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



So how do you propose to get the Arabs to do this? When they are
sworn to kill the infidels (which means all non Muslims), how do
you get beyond that?



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Re: [OT] to start the healing process

2006-08-13 Thread petetheisen

Leland Jackson wrote:

Hi Leland!

Oh, for heaven's sake. Jesus might wring his hands and cry, like Jimmy 
Carter. Or he might hang out with Mary Magdalene, getting a foot rub and 
all that. BUT Jesus *could* stop the hijacked planes from hitting the 
towers if he chose to. I think Jesus wants us to handle this one ourselves.


C-man had his way of under-the-table diplomacy, Bush has his own style 
which is somewhat different. You object to Bush's way, and I, obviously, 
object to C-man's. But Bush is the president right now.


Regards,

Pete

Hey Michael, what would Jesus do.



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Re: [OT] to start the healing process

2006-08-13 Thread petetheisen

Bill Arnold wrote:

Hi Bill!

Yes, you *are* a liberal. We've noticed, for the thousandth time already.

Liberalism is an *incurable* mental disease.

Regards,

Pete

I think we should start the healing process with the Muslim world by
putting the neocons, starting  with the architect of the Iraq invasion,
Wolfowitz, on trail for war crimes



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Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible

2006-08-13 Thread petetheisen

Kristyne McDaniel wrote:

What if God made it His business to create a soul upon human
conception, or to put it another way, past the age of conception?
There is no way to know if He has or has not, but to assume that He
has not is meddling in God's business, is it not? This is what the
"pro-choice"/ abortion/ euthanasia crowd does, assume to meddle in
God's business.




Hi Kris!

Don't giggle too hard, I am quite serious. I contend that the argument
that abortion is a sin is just as valid as the argument that it is a
"right". As far as law is concerned, I have advocated a compromise.

The age of reason is about 7, actually. Does a 6 year old have a soul?

I think that the aborted babies, deliberately killed or naturally
aborted, go to heaven. It is the aborters who go to hell. Maybe hell on
earth, maybe hell for all eternity - but hell.

Regards,

Pete


I don't buy it because it doesn't pass the "giggle" test. Faith and
reason are not in conflict, and reason would indicate that the point
of conception is not a good time for the soul to enter the body.
Nature herself sheds fertilized eggs down the drain all the time.
Spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) occurs with great frequency in the
first trimester. It simply makes no sense that a God who is a whole
lot smarter than I am would put a soul in a fertilized egg.

I just don't buy it.

I believe there is an age of reason for a human being, and that it
does not occur even in infancy. But the Supreme Court was willing to
state that the first trimester was a logical cutoff, and most people
can live with that except in cases of extreme duress to the mother.



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Re: FREE Turbo Delphi and others back again

2006-08-13 Thread petetheisen

Ed Leafe wrote:

On Aug 13, 2006, at 9:35 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote:


Your kidding right?  People upgrade because they want something
new.


Oh, yeah, that's right; I've never upgraded because Microsoft refused
to patch security holes in the product I was using. It was always
because of my desire for something new.


If I'm wrong why does the automotive industry keep pumping out a
newer better version of everything year after year?


If they have safety problems in cars, even those that are a few years
old, they have to fix them. If I choose to stay with my current car
(I drive a '95 Honda), it still works as long as I maintain it.


Hi Ed!

"They" are trying to stop that. Cars are being developed that will hit a
repair plateau at x miles/years where it will be prohibitively expensive
to keep them running and you will have to trade in. Not saying its
right, in fact, I think it is very wrong.

Regards,

Pete


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Re: FREE Turbo Delphi and others back again

2006-08-13 Thread petetheisen

Ken Dibble wrote:
It isn't that so much. The reason behind it is "NVJ" features: New 
Version Justification. What possible reason is there to upgrade any

word processor or spreadsheet program when there hasn't been
anything truly new in them since, well, let me see, 10-15 years?
But companies have to "innovate" to create a reason to buy a new
version to keep a revenue stream. Nothing at all wrong with that.



What's wrong is periodically pulling the rug out from under customers
to force them to "upgrade". You know, in most states in the US, it's
a crime that results in prison time for an auto mechanic to tell a 
customer that s/he needs a "repair" that s/he doesn't really need, or

to deliberately break something in order to charge a fee to fix it.

But software vendors get away with this kind of crap all the
time--more or less in collusion with hardware vendors. IMO, it's a
moral crime, even if it isn't (yet) a statutory one.


Hi Ken!

How does this morally differ from time-bombing an application? That is,
if it differs, it might not.

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible

2006-08-11 Thread petetheisen

Leland Jackson wrote:


A Jewish Rabi was interviewed by ABC news during the conference, and
asked about the close alliance between the US and Israel, considering
that the Jewish people have never accepted Jesus Christ.  His reply
to the statement was disarming.  He said, when we meet with the
Messiah we will ask him, is he returning, or is he coming.

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20060712-114540-2037r.htm


Hi Leland!

The reply would be something not to be missed! I bet even Ed will take a
peek at the tube that day!

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Gravity vs. Evolution

2006-08-11 Thread petetheisen

Leland Jackson wrote:

About 15,000 years ago, the gray wolf was the only species of dog, so in 
an relatively short evolutionary period of only 15,000 years, man has 
been able to created all the different breeds of dogs, each having its 
origins in the gray wolf.  This gives some hint how evolution happens; 
how one specie can result in a variety of sub-species, for example.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4965516.stm


Hi Leland!

There were people outside the garden, when Adam and Eve were driven out. 
Who were they? People who had evolved from lower forms of life.


The existence of evolution does not cancel out God, God created the 
first things - chemicals and whatever, and then provided the process for 
the first cell to come to life as well.


If it had been any other way, we would now be creating life ourselves. 
If we ever do create "life" it will be because we will have discovered 
how God did it.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible

2006-08-11 Thread petetheisen

Leland Jackson wrote:

Hi Leland!

You proofread *after* you send? Curious.

Regards,

Pete
Whoops, sorry Pete. I guess I had better correct this.  It should 
read:


The promise of God found in the bible regarding eternal life is an 
unsolved mystery, but God is, or God is not.  I have faith, and believe, 
"God is".


Regards,

LelandJ

The promise of God found in the Bible regarding eternal life is an 
unsolved mystery, but Got either is, or Gos is not.  I have faith that 
God is.



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Re: [OT] Question abaout 9/11

2006-08-11 Thread petetheisen

Leland Jackson wrote:

3)  The Bush Administration was caught complete unprepared for an 
extremist attack, like the one that occurred on 9/11


Hi Leland!

I think the plan was well under way while Monica was doing what Monica 
does best. C-man knew something was up, but he dismissed it as too 
cloudy to act upon.


But Bush is vilified for lacking prescience in these things, perhaps 
because he *wasn't* fooling around.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible

2006-08-11 Thread petetheisen

Leland Jackson wrote:

The promise of God found in the Bible regarding eternal life is an 
unsolved mystery, but Got either is, or Gos is not.  I have faith that 
God is.


Hi Leland!

The $8 spell checker must have Dot, DOS and Dog versions. The Windows 
version most likely just the DOS one with a GUI front end.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible

2006-08-11 Thread petetheisen

Kristyne McDaniel wrote:


I don't actually know how many living things have a soul. I believe
that humans past some age do have a soul, but I suspect that there
are other living things as well that have souls or spirits. Again,
that falls into #3 -- God's business.


Hi Kris!

What if God made it His business to create a soul upon human conception,
or to put it another way, past the age of conception? There is no way to
know if He has or has not, but to assume that He has not is meddling in
God's business, is it not? This is what the "pro-choice"/ abortion/
euthanasia crowd does, assume to meddle in God's business.

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Question abaout 9/11

2006-08-11 Thread petetheisen

Leland Jackson wrote:

The American people are strong and have a history of raising to the 
occasion in defense of our way of life


Hi Leland!

Yes, we do. We interned the Japanese in World War II, we must intern the
terrorists, or those who so profile, in World War III.

No sense in leaving them idle, though. Get a little work out of them.

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Question abaout 9/11

2006-08-11 Thread petetheisen

Leland Jackson wrote:


Even though this recent plot was unsuccessful, I am watching closely
to see if the Bush Administration follows it trend, and trys to make
another grab for power thought legislation


Hi Leland!

I dunno, Leland, "power thought legislation", as you put it, may be a
good thing. Just think of it: combining thought with power and
legislation? It may never have been done before.

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] all we've seen so far is just a prelude

2006-08-10 Thread petetheisen

Bob Calco wrote:
! 
! Bob, you're really starting to sound like a "(little bit) more

! prolific Madigan"...are you obsessed with homosexuality like him?
! 


Well you didn't like the "egocentric self-proclaimed intellectual Bob"
so I decided to try a different approach, one that you seem to enjoy
better and to which your responses are measurably more, well, "gay"
(in the traditional sense of the term).

gay

adj 1: bright and pleasant; promoting a feeling of cheer;


Hi Bob!

Now you know why I prefer "faggot", less ambiguous.

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mfaggot.html

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Al Gore, Big Fat Phony.

2006-08-10 Thread petetheisen

Michael Madigan wrote:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-08-09-gore-green_x.htm

Get your Democrat Rats T-Shirt here. LOL


Hi Michael!

You can't make this stuff up!

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] all we've seen so far is just a prelude

2006-08-10 Thread petetheisen

Helio W. wrote:


Bob, you're really starting to sound like a "(little bit) more
prolific Madigan"...are you obsessed with homosexuality like him?


Hi Helio!

We have to identify the faggots so we can watch them, like knowing who 
the terrorists are by their profiles. If you don't watch out you might 
get it in the end.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] all we've seen so far is just a prelude

2006-08-10 Thread petetheisen

Helio W. wrote:


You call me "Toshi", I call you "egocentric and self-proclaimed
intellectual Bob". LOL


Hi Helio!

We usually reserve such praise for someone more liberal.

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [NF] Introducing Vista 2.0

2006-08-10 Thread petetheisen

Tristan Leask wrote:



They are like a pair of kinds in the playground


Hi Tristan!

We have all kinds at our playground.

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Lieberman concedes to Antiwar Challenger

2006-08-10 Thread petetheisen

Leland Jackson wrote:
I saw a reference to "Sermon on the Mound" when googling for the 
scripture, and was wondering about that.  Anyway, I don't know of 
anywhere in the Bible where unintended spelling errors are unforgivable 
sin, or even a sin for that matter.


Hi Leland!

I didn't say it was a sin, I said "Chirt" would get you, like you get to 
heaven and your name tag says "Layland" or something like that. Lighten 
up, eh?


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Lieberman concedes to Antiwar Challenger

2006-08-10 Thread petetheisen

Michael Madigan wrote:

Sermon on the mound, huh ?  LOL


Hi Michael!

Just wait, sooner or later he will spell it "mons". We know the sermon 
was on the mount. Too much baseball.


Regards,

Pete


From Christ's sermon on the mound:



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Re: [OT] Lieberman concedes to Antiwar Challenger

2006-08-10 Thread petetheisen

Leland Jackson wrote:
I think the great spirit, the creator of all life, and the creator of 
the universe


Hi Leland!

Aha!

Religion without the G-word, or the C-word? Explains the liberalism, 
sure enough.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [NF] MySpace.com / Google deal [OT]

2006-08-09 Thread petetheisen

MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:

petetheisen wrote:

I have heard that kind of stuff, but I am strictly "Sgt. Schultz" on  
the subject. Can Dad see what is going on if he monitors Precious'  
computer?


Hi Ken!

Not if she lives with mom or is at school.


You could get that software that takes screen captures in the background 
every 'n' seconds and occasionally check that.  There's a good ethics 
question:  how far do you go to protect your kids or keep them from 
getting into trouble, versus invading and not respecting their privacy?  
I already have the router sending a log to me nightly (but that just 
shows sites she's visited, not what's she doing on those sites).  At 
some point, you just have to trust them.  But at what point?  Advice 
from those who've parented longer than me?  My daughter is 14 now and so 
those "anxiety" years are just around the corner for me!


Hi Tom!

Could be worse, *way* worse:

http://leafe.com/archives/showFullThd/135386

from message 19 or so.

Regards,

Pete



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Re: [OT] Lieberman concedes to Antiwar Challenger

2006-08-09 Thread petetheisen

Leland Jackson wrote:

You're even out of step with your own folks on this one.  It was the
Radical Religious Right who were up in arms over this ridiculous
choice to the Supreme Court.  Harriet Miers was a very good
corporate, contract attorney, but had no qualifications or experience
what-so-ever in the area of Constitutional Law.  Her main
qualifications, that made her an appealing nomination to the Bush
Administration, was her "Born again Christian" credentials, coupled
with a close relationship with George W. Bush as his personal
counsel. LOL


Hi Leland!

Chirt is *still* going to get you, for misspelling His name!

*Christ* is one name you dare not misspell, $8 spell checker or otherwise.

Regards,

Pete



Leland Jackson wrote:

I remember Senator Lieberman best as one of the 7 Democratic 
centrist, who joined with 7 Republican centrist, to prevent

Senator Frist from abolishing the filibuster, which would have
allow president Bush to more easily pack the court with Judges
who were less than qualified for the Supreme Court, like his own
personal councel, Harriet Miers, for Chirt's sake.




Chirt is going to get you. I think Harriet Miers would be a
wonderful supreme court justice.



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Re: [OT] Lieberman concedes to Antiwar Challenger

2006-08-08 Thread petetheisen

Michael Madigan wrote:

Wow, they certainly stabbed this guy in the back.

No honor among Democrats or Thieves.  


Hi Michael!

They will split the aging hippie vote and the R will win.

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Lieberman concedes to Antiwar Challenger

2006-08-08 Thread petetheisen

Leland Jackson wrote:
I remember Senator Lieberman best as one of the 7 Democratic centrist, 
who joined with 7 Republican centrist, to prevent Senator Frist from 
abolishing the filibuster, which would have allow president Bush to more 
easily pack the court with Judges who were less than qualified for the 
Supreme Court, like his own personal councel, Harriet Miers, for Chirt's 
sake.  LOL.  I respect Senator Lieberman for his stand to protect the 
Senate filibuster, but now Senator Lieberman should throw his support 
behind Ned Lamont who won the Democratic primary.  Instead, Senator 
Lieberman is planning on running as an independent.  This could split 
the Democratic vote and allow a Neo-Conservative Bush Republican to win 
the Senate seat.


Hi Leland!

Chirt is going to get you. I think Harriet Miers would be a wonderful 
supreme court justice.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] I got this garbage in the mail today

2006-08-08 Thread petetheisen

Leland Jackson wrote:

I don't think any churches would try to qualify for exemption under IRC 
Section 527. LOL


Whoops, it looks like the Bush Administration has been very busy in this 
area of taxation and has amended the tax code to remove almost all of 
the reporting requirements of PAC


Hi Leland!

Do you know for a fact that the Bush administration did this? He may 
have just signed it once congress passed it.


I think to do everything the Ds accuse him of he would have to be 
superman. Not only that, the law applies equally to all pacs, not just 
the R pacs.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible

2006-08-08 Thread petetheisen

Kristyne McDaniel wrote:


there is some basis for thinking that in hell there will be burning
torment.


I disagree. Some hold that the references to fire refer to the kind
of fire like in a trash dump or a cremation, which leaves nothing but
ash. I take exception to the idea of an eternal, non-consuming fire
of eternal torture. Whoever dreamed that concept up was trying to
scare people into doing what s/he wanted, IMO.

I simply don't believe in a doctrine that would hold that Gandhi is
going to burn in eternal torture because he was not a Christian, or
that Mother Teresa is going to burn eternally because she didn't
belong to Jerry Fallwell's church or some such thing. It makes no
sense to me.


Hi Kris!

We really don't know about these things. There is no need for us to
know, our egos would be satisfied if we did, though. As it is, it is all 
speculation.


That said, it is better to follow your conscience than your passions. I 
think we do know the difference between these. Neither Gandhi nor Mother 
Theresa lived passionate lives that I know of.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [NF] MySpace.com / Google deal [OT]

2006-08-08 Thread petetheisen

Ken Kixmoeller (j/s) wrote:


On Aug 8, 2006, at 9:07 PM, petetheisen wrote:


eally! All sweetie pie has to do is *say* she is 18 when she signs up,
request a private profile, or use a phony name (pseudonym) and/or
someone else's picture and dad is off the trail.





I have heard that kind of stuff, but I am strictly "Sgt. Schultz" on  
the subject. Can Dad see what is going on if he monitors Precious'  
computer?


Hi Ken!

Not if she lives with mom or is at school.

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] I got this garbage in the mail today

2006-08-08 Thread petetheisen

Leland Jackson wrote:
Here is more on the requirements a 501c(3) organization, like a 
religious organization, must meet to maintain their tax exempt status.  
I appear that this section of the IRC may have been amended, during the 
Bush Administration's terms in office, to be more friendly towards 
religious organizations that want to get involved in limited lobbying 
activities:


http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=96099,00.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/22ch8


Hi Leland!

I think some of them are actually 527 orgs, unless you read the fine 
print you don't know.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] I got this garbage in the mail today

2006-08-08 Thread petetheisen

Bill Arnold wrote:


So long as our so-called representatives are beholden to monied
interests, they will act in the service of the hand that feeds them.
Remove money from the equation - and bust up the media stranglehold -
and we'll start to see people run for office who actually care about the
people they represent.

The counter-argument goes that we need "giants" and can't survive
without their "vision". For many years I believed this, but now, looking
at what they've done with the power, I'm disgusted and contemptuous. 


Hi Bill!

How can you *effectively* combat them without becoming them?

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Justice for Green, but don't stop there

2006-08-08 Thread petetheisen

Bill Arnold wrote:
Soldier Testifies of Stress in Iraq Unit 
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060808/D8JC90NO0.html>



this is an example of what happens to some people when their world is
reduced to (in fact or in perception) survival and they don't have a 
strong enough sense of ethics and morality to hold onto what we call 
sanity.


Hi Bill!

If they don't have a strong sense of ethics and morality they will get
into trouble right at home where survival is little or no perceived
issue, and the ones at home often do.


It's often said, and it's true, that you just don't know how people
will behave in life or death situations.


You didn't ever see any of your comrades in 'Nam act honorably and
bravely, did you?


Never before have we sent people to kill, die and suffer for
essentially no reason.


Of course we have. Vietnam was for as much reason as this. 'Nam was for
the row of dominoes (and trade, and the MIC) Afghanistan was against
terror and Iraq was about moving the WMDs to Syria. These are
approximately equivalent.

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Honesty and Integrity - NOT!

2006-08-08 Thread petetheisen

Ed Leafe wrote:

On Aug 8, 2006, at 12:58 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account  wrote:

Do you think that President Gore is going to be any better in terms  
of keeping the oil companies in check or forcing better conditions?



Let me answer by asking you this: can he possibly be any worse?


Hi Ed!

Yes, he could. He could put Tipper in charge of the music censors, to 
begin with.


http://www.freemuse.org/sw4213.asp

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [NF] MySpace.com / Google deal

2006-08-08 Thread petetheisen

Ken Kixmoeller (j/s) wrote:


On Aug 7, 2006, at 11:40 PM, MB Software Solutions wrote:


MySpace seems like a young (20-something) thingie to me.  Anyone
here the exception to that demographic on there?

Chris Erskine, a humor columnist, suggests (seriously) that parents,
 especially fathers, create MySpace sites. Two reasons:

- It will make it just un-cool enough that kids will think twice
about it. - Letting our kids know that they can't hide may make them
more judicious in using it. http://tinyurl.com/kq4du


Hi Ken!

Really! All sweetie pie has to do is *say* she is 18 when she signs up,
request a private profile, or use a phony name (pseudonym) and/or
someone else's picture and dad is off the trail.

Some of the stuff on there is just awful, but I weed it out on mine with
strict controls that don't effect the few serious users.

Regards,

Pete


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[OT] Right bait

2006-08-08 Thread petetheisen

Hi Everybody!

I am a social conservative, true enough, but more centrist on economic 
issues. Here is an article challenging the usual conservative view on 
minimum wage.




Regards,

Pete


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Re: [NF] MySpace.com / Google deal

2006-08-07 Thread petetheisen

MB Software Solutions wrote:

petetheisen wrote:


MB Software Solutions wrote:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060808/ap_on_hi_te/google_news_corp

MySpace seems like a young (20-something) thingie to me.  Anyone here 
the exception to that demographic on there?



Hi Michael!

I am 61, I have a MySpace. President Bush has something like 100 
MySpaces, but some of these might be fake.


<http://www.myspace.com/petetheisen>

wow pete...your female friends are HOTTIES!  ;-)


Hi Michael!

Don't judge them by their looks, they are also quite sweet. Shy, though.
Except Angie, she is more confident.

Regards,

Pete



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Re: [OT] Honesty and Integrity - NOT!

2006-08-07 Thread petetheisen

MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:

Ed Leafe wrote:





- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
A tiny little movie making fun of Al Gore


Do you think that President Gore is going to be any better in terms of 
keeping the oil companies in check or forcing better conditions?


Hi Michael!

He won't even get nominated. This is going to be the year Katherine 
Harris comes back. If she is a Senator she can run and not give up her 
Senate seat a la Kerry.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] I got this garbage in the mail today

2006-08-07 Thread petetheisen

Leland Jackson wrote:
Hey, its not really pulpit unless you have a bible thumping Religious 
Righter hypocrite standing behind it spouting the End of Day with an 
approaching battle of Armageddon, (eg WWIII) at the door.


Hi Leland!

"You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but the end is not yet".

WWIII is due. After WWIII there will be 50 to 60 years of relative peace 
and then another big one, WWIV. Armageddon? Nah.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] I got this garbage in the mail today

2006-08-07 Thread petetheisen

Leland Jackson wrote:
Today, I heard former speaker of the house, Newt Gingrich, say that 
America was in the early stages of WWIII.  I immediate thought of you; 
since this is what you have been saying for a long time, now.  I'm not 
ready for a WWIII.


You have been reading too many article like like the one at the end of 
the below link, but it is mostly propaganda based on fear/hate.


http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13230


Hi Leland!

Interesting article, how do you know it is not accurate?

Oh, you don't WANT it to be accurate . . . silly me!

Regards,

Pete



give me liberty or give me death.


Yeah, Achmed will be happy to kill you. He has big plans for your wife 
and any daughters you may still have with you.



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Re: [NF] MySpace.com / Google deal

2006-08-07 Thread petetheisen

MB Software Solutions wrote:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060808/ap_on_hi_te/google_news_corp

MySpace seems like a young (20-something) thingie to me.  Anyone here 
the exception to that demographic on there?



Hi Michael!

I am 61, I have a MySpace. President Bush has something like 100 
MySpaces, but some of these might be fake.


<http://www.myspace.com/petetheisen>

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] I got this garbage in the mail today

2006-08-07 Thread petetheisen

Leland Jackson wrote:


I think the US is in Iraq to protect its pulpit government


Hi Leland!

Here you go sneaking in more of the "religious righter" argument!
"Pulpit government", you know, that's almost funny.

I remember in the late 50s being told from the pulpit to NOT see Audrey
Hepburn's "The Nuns Story". When I eventually saw it in the last few
years I thought "I can't figure what the fuss was about". I don't think
the pulpit can govern.

http://www.audrey1.com/articles/articles14.html

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] I got this garbage in the mail today

2006-08-07 Thread petetheisen

Leland Jackson wrote:


give me liberty or give me death.


Hi Leland!

Yeah, Achmed will be happy to kill you. He has big plans for your wife 
and any daughters you may still have with you.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible

2006-08-06 Thread petetheisen

Kristyne McDaniel wrote:

Pete,



What about the thief who continued to mock Jesus?



Are you just trying to bait me?


Hi Kris!

Why, you know me better than that?  I would really like to know what 
you think happened to him. He clearly didn't say a prayer before he 
died, more on the order of uttering a curse, a curse upon God himself.


By the way, I am skipping Church today as I do most Sundays. Will be 
getting off of work at about 6 and by the time Church is on I expect to 
be very asleep.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible

2006-08-06 Thread petetheisen

Kristyne McDaniel wrote:

Pete,



Where in the first five books does the bible speak of
eternal fire, and escaping it by saying a prayer
before dying? Or do you mean the fundamentalists
are reading that in to something that says 
something else?



The eternal roasting stuff is something that was added by some Christian
groups after the fact. I never saw it in the Bible, and I've been through it
many times. Forgiveness at the last moment has a precedent in the story of
the thieves on the cross next to Jesus. But the roasting forever idea has no
biblical precedent. Every time I've heard someone come up with what they
believe to be a biblical basis for it, they've had to stitch together
several things from different parts of the old and new testaments and then
hope nobody's paying too much attention to it.


Hi Kris!

What about the thief who continued to mock Jesus?

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible

2006-08-05 Thread petetheisen

Stephen the Cook wrote:


Fornication falls under the Adultery banner.

Abortion comes under murder, dumbass


No, they do not. Murder is a special class of killing. Lots of types
of killing are not murder. Fornication is not adultery. Recall that
in the "Big 10", adultery is not called "adultery", it is called
coveting your neighbor's wife. That is a very specific case
pertaining to people that are married.


That's why there are two different names for each of these
activities, DOOFUS. They are to different activities. 



Having a mistress is cool.  If she is married then it's not.  Don't you all


Hi Stephen!

Nothing to say about it if *you* are married?

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible

2006-08-05 Thread petetheisen

Stephen the Cook wrote:

petetheisen <> wrote:



I don't understand the part about Angles the first SPAM. What do you
mean by that? 



Messengers.  


Hi Stevphen!

Ok, but angels not angles.

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible

2006-08-05 Thread petetheisen

Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
It's the same principle as those who see abstaining from sex as a 
virtue. God gave you genitals, but *good* people don't use them 
unless they have to. Same thing with the brain.


I know my viewpoints are unpopular among evangelicals. They all talk 
to each other exclusively to the point that they no longer can see 
how silly some of the "taken-for-granted-reality" ideas they think 
are set in stone really are.



 Micah 6:8 to our fundamentalist chiropractor a couple of weeks ago as
 something that Steve and I have adopted as our watch-words to TRY to
 live by... Do Justly, Love Mercy, Walk Humbly. He TRIED to give me a
 tract explaining how nobody could live right so don't try



I don't even recognize the evangelical "say magic words, do nothing"
theologies that are being bandied about these days.


Hi Kris!

Quite right, the fundamentalists can be conveniently defeatist.

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible

2006-08-05 Thread petetheisen

Ed Leafe wrote:

On Aug 5, 2006, at 1:26 PM, Kristyne McDaniel wrote:


Try reason. Got gave you a brain. Perhaps you were supposed to USE
it.



It's the same principle as those who see abstaining from sex as a 
virtue. God gave you genitals, but *good* people don't use them

unless they have to. Same thing with the brain.


Hi Ed!

You have it wrong this time. Good people do not use either brain nor
genitals in an inappropriate manner.

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible

2006-08-05 Thread petetheisen

Kristyne McDaniel wrote:


No, they are not in conflict at all. This is why I can hardly
believe that you don't believe the Word of God. Have you some
reason to not believe in the Word, "Got" notwithstanding?


I don't believe that the text we have today is the complete word that
God wanted us to hear. The first 5 books of the Hebrew Torah were
written by Moses and were never intended to be treated as a factual
history of the world. I believe they are an allegory, and since
that's what the Hebrews themselves think I certainly don't think I'm
off-base in that view. I understand that the young fundamentalist
churches do not choose to view it the same way, but that is not a
view held by religious groups older than, say, 200 years of age.

Fundamentalists tend to be zealots of young religious groups. They
tend to have studied less, and have teachers without a full grounding
in the history of the texts used for preaching. So no, I don't
subscribe to the views that fundamentalists preach. I never have. It
just made no sense to me, even when I was a child.

Why on earth would God punish a person in hell fire for eternity
because they didn't say a prayer just before getting hit by a bus?
That just doesn't make any sense to me. I wouldn't even do that to a
rattlesnake. God gave me a brain and I will use it, thank you very
much.


Hi Kris!

Thoughtful post, thanks for taking the trouble. Well, I know little
about fundamentalists, certainly know that I am not one.

I agree with you about the bus to an extent. The person's whole life has
to be considered, and we can trust God to be fair. If a person's whole
life has been righteous, the prayer before dying will not matter. If the
person's whole life has been blasphemous, the prayer before dying might
not help.

Where in the first five books does the bible speak of eternal fire, and
escaping it by saying a prayer before dying? Or do you mean the the
fundamentalists are reading that in to something that says something else?

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] The Fog of Liberalism: A Mental Disorder?

2006-08-05 Thread petetheisen

Michael Madigan wrote:


http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=22788


Hi Michael!

Did you subscribe? If you did, how much did it cost and what did you get?

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible

2006-08-05 Thread petetheisen

Kristyne McDaniel wrote:

Pete,



How do you know, did God tell you that He didn't say anything?



That is the kind of argument that goes around and around and never goes
anywhere. Faith and reason are not in conflict.


Hi Kris!

No, they are not in conflict at all. This is why I can hardly believe 
that you don't believe the Word of God. Have you some reason to not 
believe in the Word, "Got" notwithstanding?


Regards,

Pete

Try reason. Got gave you a
brain. Perhaps you were supposed to USE it.



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Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible

2006-08-05 Thread petetheisen

Stephen the Cook wrote:

Angles the first SPAM.  



Stephen Russell
DBA / Operations Developer

Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/



Hi Stephen!

I don't understand the part about Angles the first SPAM. What do you 
mean by that?


Regards,

Pete



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Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible

2006-08-04 Thread petetheisen

Kristyne McDaniel wrote:


There is no such thing as a "God said it, I believe it, that settles it"
truth or fact basis for life.


Hi Kris!

How do you know, did God tell you that He didn't say anything?

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible

2006-08-04 Thread petetheisen

Ed Leafe wrote:

On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:38 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:


The earliest periods diagrammed in the timeline represent a fusion
between the two positions. Most scholarly assessments categorize the
early books of the Hebrew Bible as legend. Fundamentalists consider  them
to be real history. The diagrams found here for that period are
something of a compromise: Include the personages, but scale back the
timespans, typically years lived or reigned, so that they better match
other historical records (e.g. those from Egypt). This is done for the
patriarchs and judges. You might call it "modified fundamentalist".



Oh, this changes how I live my life, and what I hold to be important!!

I can't wait until he comes out with the Angles On The Head Of A 
Pin  chart!!


Hi Lel . . . uh, Ed!

Angles would be problematical. Angels, on the other hand, all that there 
are can be on the head of any pin, none of them take up any space.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Why we should trust the police

2006-08-03 Thread petetheisen

Ed Leafe wrote:



( -or- http://tinyurl.com/l45a5 )

Remember all those simple-minded folks who pooh-pooh worries about  
over-reaching police-state tactics with "if you haven't done anything  
wrong, you have nothing to worry about"?


Hi Ed!

They *did* do something wrong, and they were booked and spent a little 
time out of circulation. If they had been my kids they would have been 
grounded for the weekend when they got home.


Had I been the law, they would have spent the next weekend picking up 
papers in that park.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Bill of Rights, RIP

2006-08-03 Thread petetheisen

Leland Jackson wrote:
It seem the neo-conservative Bush Administration is up to its old 
tricks.


Hi Leland!

Read it again, Leland. It is a leak, there has been no official word 
that the administration has, or will, propose this. Put your shirt back 
on and take your pills.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Bill of Rights, RIP

2006-08-03 Thread petetheisen

Ed Leafe wrote:
"The White House is seeking legislation that would allow people not  
affiliated with terrorism to be prosecuted in military commissions --  
with far fewer rights than afforded civilians."




( -or- http://tinyurl.com/jwx9h )


Hi Ed!

It is a leak. Wait for the official version, if there even is one, 
before you judge it.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] ME slaughterhouses exposed as barbaric

2006-08-03 Thread petetheisen

Hal Kaplan wrote:

Dominic, I fear you have over-imbibed the tainted Kool-Aid.

You have been brainwashed.

Let's look at things from another perspective.  If a lab rat's welfare
is just as important as a human's, then YOUR welfare is just as
important as a lab rat's.  Or a fly.  A mosquito!

Before we become so obsessed with animal welfare, why don't we tackle
man's inhumanity to man?  There are countless humans who are "dumped on"
every day and many of them feel helpless to do anything about their
plight.  They feel they were born to be at the bottom of humanity.
Frustrated and unable to cope with it, some of them take their inner
hostilities out on animals.  Perhaps if there was a PeTH, we would not
need a PeTA.

Not that it matters in the UK but in the USA, our Constitution
specifically prohibits "cruel and unusual" punishment for persons
convicted of committing crimes.  Yet many Americans favor the death
penalty.


Hi Hal!

If the criminal is killed he/she does not repeat the crime. If I were 
governor I would sign every death warrant with conditional clemency - 
that the condemned person was to be executed immediately if the 
condemned person ever appealed (except with dna evidence that he/she 
couldn't have done it), caused any trouble or tried to escape.


In other words, the jury and judge condemned them, but if they shut up, 
stay in prison and behave I would let them live.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] The Passion of the Drunk

2006-08-03 Thread petetheisen

Kristyne McDaniel wrote:

Madigan,



I wonder if he ever made his girlfriend have an
abortion?



I wonder how your mother was persuaded against it. Some days your persistent
one-track rant about an issue that has nothing to do with your own life is
extremely annoying.

Today you are 46 on the annoying meter out of 100. Trust me, you don't want
to get over 90.


Hi Kris!

Oh, come ON! You wouldn't do anything, even at 100. "Annoying" is not a 
crime or even a sin - especially if there is a seed of truth in it. 
Don't liberals believe in freedom of speech?


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] how true is this?

2006-08-03 Thread petetheisen

Stephen Russell wrote:




Hi Stephen!

It is just a cheap-shot parody. I'd be willing to bet that the person 
maintaining it is *not* a Republican and thus has no idea.


Regards,

Pet


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Re: [OT] Stage-managed masacre

2006-08-02 Thread petetheisen

Michael Madigan wrote:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=23655


Hi Michael!

Incredible that the west never questions the enemy PR.

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Heat wave

2006-08-02 Thread petetheisen

Stephen the Cook wrote:

Michael Madigan <> wrote:


BFD. You think we've never seen hot, humid weather in NY before.



Come on down to the new == summer.  That means that the temp is the same as
the humidity.  We start in June or was it May?  We take it out to Sept.
because it's so much fun!

99 and 99 is so much fun!


Hi Stephen!

The barbecue won't require as much fuel to cook the butts. Is PETA invited?

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Heat wave

2006-08-02 Thread petetheisen

Michael Madigan wrote:

BFD. You think we've never seen hot, humid weather in
NY before.

What nonsense.


Hi Michael!

NOW is the time for the idiot Gore to be out speaking on the street 
corners about his supposed Global Warming. Where is he, in some bar with 
Al Sharpton or Rudy Giuliani?


We will get back to that subject when the weather turns chilly, or worse.

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] regarding OT [disco version]

2006-08-02 Thread petetheisen

Michael Madigan wrote:

I think it has more to do with sunspots.


Hi Michael!

Barbecue and beer.

Regards,

Pete


--- Hal Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Notwithstanding the other comments previously
presented in this thread, I would personally like to
take credit for the recent decrease in OT postings



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Re: [OT] regarding OT [disco version]

2006-08-02 Thread petetheisen

Hal Kaplan wrote:

Notwithstanding the other comments previously presented in this
thread, I would personally like to take credit for the recent
decrease in OT postings since I started posting again about a month
ago.


Hi Hal!

If that is your perception, congratulations to you, then. Such chutzpah.

Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Iraq achieves a government like ours...

2006-08-02 Thread petetheisen

Bill Arnold wrote:


You hear about the Democratic party's latest folly? Now they say they
want "to begin withdrawing U.S. troops by the end of the year and to
"transition to a more limited mission" in the war-torn nation." 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/31/AR200607

3100743.html


Now the gang who can't shoot straight wants to point the gun right at
the last Americans to leave Iraq, as if they have no idea whatsoever
what a "transition to a more limited mission" will actually boil down
to.


Hi Bill!

This is the problem with a withdrawal timetable. Why Nixon resisted one 
for so long in Vietnam, but finally it had to be. Same thing happening 
now, because we cannot muster the will to win.


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] Iraq achieves a government like ours...

2006-08-02 Thread petetheisen

Helio W. wrote:

No. Their government is becoming like Brazil's.


Hi Helio!

Corruption in Brazil? The guy down the hall goes there all the time, he 
hasn't mentioned it. I think it may be identical to what we are very 
used to in the US. He has mentioned that he finds the women in Brazil 
open to his "friendship".


By the way, he is a neighbor, but he and I are not what you would call 
"close". There is a difference. Usually, the people I talk to at length 
are women. Most men bore me, usually too interested in sports and sex.


Regards,

Pete


On 8/2/06, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



...with Republicans running it!



( -or- http://tinyurl.com/njgro )



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Re: [OT] ME slaughterhouses exposed as barbaric

2006-08-02 Thread petetheisen

Ed Leafe wrote:

On Aug 2, 2006, at 9:07 AM, Ed Leafe wrote:

You're saying that these events, which happened (and still do)  
quite regularly, were not the work of PETA, but by large numbers of  
'rogue' members across the world who all happened to employ the  same 
tactic in the same manner? Has any official PETA statement  been made 
that disavowed these tactics, and called for those who  carried them 
out to be put in jail?



Or how about targeting children with graphic images or buckets of  
blood? Yes, the best public discourse is carried out by targeting  
children and scaring them.




Or how about PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk saying:  
"Even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we’d be against  it."




I don't know what PETA is like in your country, but over here they  
are no more civilized than most radical anti-abortion groups, who  feel 
that they have The Truth, and are therefore justified in doing  Whatever 
It Takes to make others see The Truth. As a vegetarian and  not a 
Vegetarian, I hate getting lumped with these groups. I'm for  the 
ethical treatment of animals, but I don't want anyone telling me  whose 
ethics I have to use. Especially not people who value the life  of a lab 
rat over the life of a human being.


-- Ed Leafe
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Hi Ed!

Well stated. Whose choice is it to eat meat or vegetables, the person 
contemplating the eating or someone illegally threatening him/her?


Regards,

Pete


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Re: [OT] ME slaughterhouses exposed as barbaric

2006-08-02 Thread petetheisen

Dominic Burford wrote:


the cranks who criticise you when you reference an internet site, will
do just the same when trying to prop up their own infantile claims).


Hi Dominic!

You damned hypocrite. You inferred to "many studies" then when called on 
it said it wasn't from the internet. OK, then, come forth with the "many 
studies", they must have titles and authors, if they even exist at all 
they will be cataloged on the internet, if not published.


The internet is news, but often the news is fake. The internet is rarely 
science, but can sometimes be news of science.


You never accept any references from the internet that *refute* you, but 
you have been known to cite web references you find entertaining of your 
own bias. Looks like wanting it both ways to me.


Regards,

Pete



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Re: [OT] ME slaughterhouses exposed as barbaric

2006-08-02 Thread petetheisen

Michael Madigan wrote:

Yes, I believe we just proved Dr. Savage's theory.  We
have the profox archive to back it up.  I think a
paper is just about to be published.


Hi Michael!

Yes, looking forward to your paper.

Regards,

Pete

Michael Madigan wrote:


This experiment can be duplicated over and over


again.

Hi Michael!

Yes, and I think we have. Repeatability is one of
the scientific proofs



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Re: [OT] ME slaughterhouses exposed as barbaric

2006-08-02 Thread petetheisen

Michael Madigan wrote:

This experiment can be duplicated over and over again.


Hi Michael!

Yes, and I think we have. Repeatability is one of the scientific proofs,
not that any liberal would admit it in this connection.

Regards,

Pete

Dominic Burford wrote:


 See my previous post. 


Hi Dominic!

You have been setting a pattern. You toss out some sort of
left-liberal crap, Michael and/or I respond with our usual 
rebuttals, you testily reply to the effect that we don't know what

we are talking about and demand an example, we supply the examples
and finally you "authoritatively" dismiss our examples as outdated,
an isolated exception or whatever.



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Re: [OT] ME slaughterhouses exposed as barbaric

2006-08-01 Thread petetheisen

Dominic Burford wrote:

 See my previous post. 


Hi Dominic!

You have been setting a pattern. You toss out some sort of left-liberal
crap, Michael and/or I respond with our usual rebuttals, you testily
reply to the effect that we don't know what we are talking about and 
demand an example, we supply the examples and finally you 
"authoritatively" dismiss our examples as outdated, an isolated 
exception or whatever.


Yes, liberalism is a mental disease. One that leads to intellectual
blindness.

Regards,

Pete

There are rogue elements in all organisations



Oh this one again.  Can't you google?


http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_detail.cfm/headline/2339



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Re: [OT] ME slaughterhouses exposed as barbaric

2006-08-01 Thread petetheisen

Dominic Burford wrote:

<< Don't you know that almost all internet

When did I say I was referring to an internet site?


Hi Dominic!

Oh, your "many studies" may as well be no studies then. You have never
read them, you may have read *of* them but that is not the same thing,
is it? If you had read them you would have said (Name of researcher) and
(Name of other researcher, etc.) but you didn't.

Vegetarianism is for anorexic girls, and faggots. Normal people need a
little meat. Not gobs and gobs of it, but a little. How do I know? I
have personally experimented for a period of several years incidental to
my preparation for med school.

Regards,

Pete


Many studies have found


Hi Dominic!

OMG, more "studies"! Don't you know that almost all internet
"science" is nowadays faked?



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