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Hi Michael,No. They tried to get MLK and even Elvis.Obama is not only a colored
person, he also has mob support. He will come through like Michael Corleone in
the Movie.
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Hi Leland, It is a Dell notebook with ubuntu something, belongs to my sister. I guess it could have a rootkit. Before I went to the trouble of checking that I would just try it with a mouse rather than that damn touchpad. That and understand that you simply CAN'T bottom post on webmail. Regards, Pete On 09/08/11, lelandjlela...@mail.smvfp.com wrote: I put your email in komothey all appeared as L Below is a link to an article that shows how an email can be athrough injectings of LF. http://w Regards, On 09/08/2011 07:49 PM, lelandj wrote: Here are the breaking up? #- Hea Received:: from marge.leafe.com (unknown [67.23.35.254]) gt for lela...@mail.smvfp.com; Received:: from leafe.com (lo by marge.leafe.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663 Thu, 8 Sep 2011 20:32:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-T profox@leafe.com Delive profox@leafe.com R [ by marge.leafe.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80F024C9 for profox@leafe.com Received:: from vms170029 by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(t 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id 0LR8003SMC60QHB0@vms173009.mailsrvcs for profox@leafe.com; 08 Sep 2011 19:32:24 -0500 (CDT) Received:: from 68.41 with HTTP; Date:: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:32 From:: petethei...@verizon.net To:: profox@leafe.com Message-id:1710451.3606924.131552 Subject:: Re: Re: [OT] More was X-Mailer: Verizon Webmail X-Orig X-Spambayes-Classification: unsure; 0.20 X-BeenThere: profox@leafe.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Repl profox@le List-Id: ProFox Email Listprofox.leafe.com List-Unsubscribe: http://leafe.com/mailman/options/profox, g mailto:profox-requ...@leafe.com?subject=unsubs List-Archive: http://leafe.com/pipermail/profox List-P mailto:profox@leafe.com List-Help: mailto:profox-requ...@leafe.com?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxg mailto:profox-requ...@leafe.com?subject=s Sender: profox-boun...@leafe.com Errors-To:: profox-boun...@leafe.com R profox-bou MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type:: text/pl Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 09/08/11, lelandj lela...@mail.smvfp.com wrote: I'm glad the FBI is going in on this. This will give t Republicans have the Obama Administration under the rightlooking for anything, no matter how small or innoce contorted into spin for use by the Republican attack m Leland,Tell me again how the Ds NEVER do this, how the Pete --- StripMime Re text/html (html body -- converted) --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/17420295.1594370.1315574769979.JavaMail.root@vms170015 ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Re: [OT] More wasted money on green energy.
Hi Michael,Not a chance. It would be RACIST to hold any colored person
accountable, ever.Regards,Pete
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Hi Leland,Can't bottom post on verizon webmail. I was just marveling about how
open minded and objective all the Ds were when they disagreed with
Bush.Regards,Pete
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I am using verizon webmail. Terrible, just terrible. On 09/08/11, lelandjlelandj@mail.smvfp.c wrote: Hi Pete,Your email is breaking. Regards,LelandJOn 09/08/2011 07:32 PM, petethei...@verizon.net wrote: On 09/08/11, lelandj lela...@mail.smvfp.com wrote: I'm glad the FBI is going in on this. This will give the O Republicans have the Obama Administration under the mi Regards, --- StripMime Report -- proces text/html (html body -- converted) -[excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/19876509.3608610.1315529218951.JavaMail.root@vms170029 ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Hi Leland, Michael's figures are for one century. You are an accountant, perhaps even a CPA expert. All religiously motivated deaths are wrong, however . . . Whip up some religious righter or nbsp;Christian Evangelical figures for any century or even all of recorded history that remotely approach those Michael posted. Regards, Pete nbs On 09/lelandjlela...@mail.smvfp.com wrote: How many dieinquisitions fromwould be particularlypopulation at the time of into the present day with Chr We should probably also include deatworshipped Gods of the material world like lavish living, etc. Also, Hitler was abrought to power, and Regards, LelandJ On 09/01/2011 03:10 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: Let's see Pol Pot was an Atheist who killed an estimated 2 million Joseph Stalin was an Atheist who killed an estimated 24 mi Mao Zedong was an atheist who killed an estim You're right, religion kills a lot o From: Nicholas Geti ng...@optonline.net To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Thursda Subject: Re: [OT] Some scary events in Nope. Just religious nuts and rednecks. R any other philosophy. From: Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com profox@leafe Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 12:51 PM Su g gt From: Nicholas Geti ng...@optonline.net To: P profox@leafe.com Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: Re I have come to wher creat only 6000 years old. There are scientists who spe sequencing the genes when genes spl happ From: Nicholas Geti ng...@optonline.net To:l profox@leafe.com Sent Subject: [OT] Some scary events Normally I can barely stoma in fact usually one http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/29 Two front runners, Rick Perry a turning against sci evolution is Alsg --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts - multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- k[excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/17791229.946650.1314970777639.JavaMail.root@vms170015 ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Hi Leland, You forgot Pro Choice? Seems I recall that your God has to be Pro Choice. Regards, Pete On 09/01/11, lelandjlela...@mail.smvfp.com wrote: On 09/01/2011 03:14 PM, You believe in God, don't you Leland? That depends to which God you are referring. I believe in a loving, Regards, Leland From: lelandj lela...@mail.smvfp.com To: ProFox Email List profo Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 4:02 PM g On 09/01/11 09:51, Mi Are all people who believe in God, foo Michael: A serious question deserves a serious No, belief in God does not make you a fool. in some cases, but you have to beco Rick Perry is not a fool bec believes in Creationism reasons that (I shouldn't say he _believes_ that he _professes_ to b Dan Covill g Yep, I agree. Below is a link about Rick Perry' Bernanke, Chairman of the Federal Reserve. B hilarious responses to the blogger's questio treated âÂÂpretty ugly d http://nmisscommentor.com/politics/blogger-ask Regards, [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/10581499.946986.1314970930153.JavaMail.root@vms170015 ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Hi Jerry, I am glad you said that. If I had even thought it the D Nazis would have been all over me. Regards, Pete nbsp On 08/3Jerry Footejer...@footegroup.com wrote: There usedabout aJerry -Original MessageFrom: profox-bounc [ mailto] On Behalf Of Nicholas Geti Sent: WedneTo: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] How can you possibly associattheft are always around nocapitalism have given ucan you say all co The fact goverpar - Original Message - From: Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.comTo: ProFox Email List prof Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 8:36 PM Subject: On Tue, Aug john.har...@shelbynet.com wrote: g What are your thoughts on Obama's proximi - I don Ob t tgt Piss Ants. Is the beltway j as pretty? Yo all think they but only lo get in th -- Unified Health Services 60 Germanto Suite 220 Cordova, TN 38018 Teleph 901.246-0159 cell [excessive q __Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/prof Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox Th http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/389135DBD87746F49 ** All postings, unless explicitly stat --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- text/html (html body -- converted) --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/9202694.763821.1314810809227.JavaMail.root@vms170015 ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Re: [OT] Some scary events in Republican party
Hi Leland, I know for a fact that all the boarders at your house are at least Ds if not commies. Regards, Pete On 08/31/11, lelandjlela...@mail.smvfp.com wrote: On 08/31/2011 08:28 AM, Jerry Foote wrote: There used to be a communist party in this country, you don't hear anything about it now, is that because the communist have simply joined the democrats and taken it over from the inside? Jerry No. Your remark is so absurd and transparently partisan its boarders --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- text/html (html body -- converted) --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/11941565.764039.1314810953418.JavaMail.root@vms170015 ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Re: [OT] need help figuring this out
Hi Leland, Bob, I fell off of my bike. Spent a while in intensive care and 4 days A driver lunged into the crosswalk on a collision course with me. I br I am guessing th Regards, Pete (verizon webmail over winders - not my favorite interface) Jul 8, 2010 01:54:22 PM, profox@leafe.com wrote: I'll happily calendar... :) - Publius On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Leland Jackson wrote: What happened Pete? Anything we can Regards, LelandJ g -- It ought never to be forgotten, that a firm union of under an efficient government, will probably be an increasof jealousy to more than one nation of Europe; and that entersubvert it will sometimes originate in the intrigues of foreigpowers, and will seldom fail to be patronized and abetted by some of them. Its preservation, therefore ought in no case that can be avoidedsituation wand vigilant p __Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com SubsOT-free vSearchThis message: http ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- text/html (html body -- converted) --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1312670233.409474.1278620523313.javamail.r...@vms170009.mailsrvcs.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Re: [OT] need help figuring this out
Hi Michael, A guy started to pull out in front of me. When I hit the brake the bik Nurses are cute, anyway. Regards, Pete Jul 7, 2010 09:10:24 PM, profox@leafe.com wrote: How did you f --- On Wed, 7/7/10, petethei...@vewrote: From: petethei...@ver Subject: Re: [OT] need help figu To: profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, July 7, Hi Michael, The cool factor. On another topic, I am in rehab with extensive injuries due g Jul 6, 201 I'm loo At that rate, the unit will pay for itself Am I missing something? Am I readi Why would ht __ Maintenance: http: OT-free version of this list: h Archive: http: This me ** All postings, gt text/html (html --- [excessive quoting removed by se ___ Post MessagSubscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailmOT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailmaSearchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/searThis message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/510844.99** All postings, unless explicitly st --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- text/html (html body -- converted) --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/967883670.411141.1278622027257.javamail.r...@vms170009.mailsrvcs.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] need help figuring this out
Hi Michael, The cool factor. On another topic, I am in rehab with extensive injuries due to a fall. Jul 6, 201 I'm looking a At that rate, the unit will pay for itself in 30 years. Am I missing something? Am I reading something incorrectly? Why would ht ___Post Messages to: pro...@leafe.subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtecSearchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This me ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- text/html (html body -- converted) --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/312917323.354895.1278542070948.javamail.r...@vms170009.mailsrvcs.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Song Identification cool
Dave Crozier wrote: A website where you can identify the song name by tabbing out the rhythm on the keyboard. http://www.songtapper.com Brilliant! I wonder which Database they use for that? I know it really should have been [OT] but it's too cool to keep to myself. Hi Dave! Oh, like those of us who participate in [OT] are not people. Good to know your true sentiment :-) Regards, Pete Dave Crozier ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Daily meditation on forgiveness
Stephen Russell wrote: I know that some here see forgiveness in a different light. Can you act as the master or will you flip flop? http://www.rc.net/wcc/readings/aug17.htm Hi Stephen! Well, if he is your brother, you keep loaning him money, getting him out of jail etc., for 4900 times. Then he messes up for the 4901st time and you say, Brother, I have to start using tough love on you. Regards, Pete Stephen Russell DBA / Developer ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] -- Swift Boat Veterans Set Sights on Rep. Murtha
Stephen the Cook wrote: petetheisen wrote: Hi Stephen! I got an early out and I wasn't connected. The connections helped get Bush into politics, but anyone could get an early out. Nearly everyone did, in fact, one way or another. You went AWOL also? Hi Stephen! Also? No one went AWOL, we got early outs, Honorable Discharge certificate and the whole other thing. War winding down and all that. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] -- Swift Boat Veterans Set Sights on Rep. Murtha
Ed Leafe wrote: On Aug 15, 2006, at 8:43 AM, Stephen the Cook wrote: AWOL is for when you are away for less than 30 days. Longer than that, it's considered desertion. Bush wasn't AWOL; he deserted. Details details details. Yeah, well, the difference is that while going AWOL can get you court martialed, imprisoned or discharged, desertion in time of war is a capital offense and can result in execution. Like you said: details. Hi Ed! Yeah, if he really did that. As far as I can see, the story is still another D delusion. The electorate evidently didn't believe it, Bush clearly won over hero Kerry. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Moving question
Tommy Swift wrote: 1) Trade your car for an older truck.. Drive your stuff to PA.. sell it and buy another small car 2) Rent a Ryder Truck with a tow behind car hauler 3) ABF Trucking has an option where they drop a trailer off at your place, you fill it up, and they pick it up and deliver it for you.. I used this when I moved from Florida to Ohio and was very reasonable.. The downfall is ABF is union so they wont pick-up/drop off on weekends.. http://www.upack.com/default.asp 4) Cheapest, but most uncomfortably.. Put your stuff in a storage building, pack your small car with daily essentials, sleep on the floor until you can go back and get your things.. :) Look into the Extended Stay hotels as an option if you 'have' to sleep in a bed. Hi Tommy! The multiple trips in the car aren't going to be cheap with $3 gas. Rather obvious, call three major moving companies (North American, Bekins, Paul Arpin, Mayflower, Allied) for estimates, making it clear to the estimator that you are going to take the low shot. You would be surprised how cheap it is for what you get. I know, I drove a moving van for years, starved on those low rates. They will even move the car for you, if you like. That might be cheaper than driving it. Regards, Pete At 08:26 AM 8/15/2006 -0400, you wrote: I need to move quickly back to PA from Michigan. I've got enough stuff for a decent sized pickup truck, but I've only got a small car without a trailer hitch. My challenge: how do I get all of my stuff (again, could fit in a pick probably) back to PA in the most affordable way? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] -- Swift Boat Veterans Set Sights on Rep. Murtha
Bill Arnold wrote: ! Support Our Troops! ! (At Least Until They Come Home - The Tear Them To Shreds!) By the way, being a veteran does not mean you are free later in life to make absurd, outlandish and opportunistic political accusations with impunity. Rep. Murtha isn't merely disagreeing with the war; his comments and actions go well beyond that, That's right. He wants our troops out of harm's way, and so do a lot of other people. This position is honest, as opposed to the idiotic Hi Bill! There you go, calling the opposition idiots. The sort of name-calling that the post was about. Thank you for proving Bob's point. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] -- Swift Boat Veterans Set Sights on Rep. Murtha
Michael Madigan wrote: Yes you had no problem when they created a phony memo to smear Bush's military service. What a hypocrite. Hi Michael! Hypocrite? Who Ed? Our Ed? What a shame to have to think that. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] -- Swift Boat Veterans Set Sights on Rep. Murtha
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes you had no problem when they created a phony memo to smear Bush's military service. What smear? Bush stepped out of his responsibility to his country because his family was connected. He was following in the foot steps of a great flier, up until he chickened out and dashed ducking a crying into a lifetime of politics. g Hi Stephen! I got an early out and I wasn't connected. The connections helped get Bush into politics, but anyone could get an early out. Nearly everyone did, in fact, one way or another. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Is that Arnold groping someone at the bottom?
Stephen Russell wrote: http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=21224 Hi Stephen! Cartoon, no telling. If I touch a woman on her shoulder blade, is that groping? Or is it groping only if she is cute? Regards, Pete Stephen Russell DBA / Developer ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] -- Swift Boat Veterans Set Sights on Rep. Murtha
Bill Arnold wrote: I guess I've become so used to smear tactics that I'd be surprised if they didn't do it. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing I can't tell you how many times I've thought give up Hi Bill! Yes, by all means, give it up. As it is, you are part of the problem and not helpful at all with all this pseudo-psychology and treason talk. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] MySpace.com / Google deal [OT]
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: Ed Leafe wrote: Uh, Mike, those years have already arrived. 14? Do you have any idea what kids at that age are like? Fortunately, my daughter is a very late bloomer. I monitor the sites...she's not doing anything except Neopets and Disney.com. Hi Michael! There are a lot of squeaky clean sites on MySpace, but can you tell the difference from your remote? Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FREE Turbo Delphi and others back again
Ken Dibble wrote: It isn't that so much. The reason behind it is NVJ features: New Version Justification. What possible reason is there to upgrade any word processor or spreadsheet program when there hasn't been anything truly new in them since, well, let me see, 10-15 years? But companies have to innovate to create a reason to buy a new version to keep a revenue stream. Nothing at all wrong with that. What's wrong is periodically pulling the rug out from under customers to force them to upgrade. You know, in most states in the US, it's a crime that results in prison time for an auto mechanic to tell a customer that s/he needs a repair that s/he doesn't really need, or to deliberately break something in order to charge a fee to fix it. But software vendors get away with this kind of crap all the time--more or less in collusion with hardware vendors. IMO, it's a moral crime, even if it isn't (yet) a statutory one. Hi Ken! How does this morally differ from time-bombing an application? That is, if it differs, it might not. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FREE Turbo Delphi and others back again
Ed Leafe wrote: On Aug 13, 2006, at 9:35 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: Your kidding right? People upgrade because they want something new. Oh, yeah, that's right; I've never upgraded because Microsoft refused to patch security holes in the product I was using. It was always because of my desire for something new. If I'm wrong why does the automotive industry keep pumping out a newer better version of everything year after year? If they have safety problems in cars, even those that are a few years old, they have to fix them. If I choose to stay with my current car (I drive a '95 Honda), it still works as long as I maintain it. Hi Ed! They are trying to stop that. Cars are being developed that will hit a repair plateau at x miles/years where it will be prohibitively expensive to keep them running and you will have to trade in. Not saying its right, in fact, I think it is very wrong. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: What if God made it His business to create a soul upon human conception, or to put it another way, past the age of conception? There is no way to know if He has or has not, but to assume that He has not is meddling in God's business, is it not? This is what the pro-choice/ abortion/ euthanasia crowd does, assume to meddle in God's business. Hi Kris! Don't giggle too hard, I am quite serious. I contend that the argument that abortion is a sin is just as valid as the argument that it is a right. As far as law is concerned, I have advocated a compromise. The age of reason is about 7, actually. Does a 6 year old have a soul? I think that the aborted babies, deliberately killed or naturally aborted, go to heaven. It is the aborters who go to hell. Maybe hell on earth, maybe hell for all eternity - but hell. Regards, Pete I don't buy it because it doesn't pass the giggle test. Faith and reason are not in conflict, and reason would indicate that the point of conception is not a good time for the soul to enter the body. Nature herself sheds fertilized eggs down the drain all the time. Spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) occurs with great frequency in the first trimester. It simply makes no sense that a God who is a whole lot smarter than I am would put a soul in a fertilized egg. I just don't buy it. I believe there is an age of reason for a human being, and that it does not occur even in infancy. But the Supreme Court was willing to state that the first trimester was a logical cutoff, and most people can live with that except in cases of extreme duress to the mother. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] to start the healing process
Bill Arnold wrote: Hi Bill! Yes, you *are* a liberal. We've noticed, for the thousandth time already. Liberalism is an *incurable* mental disease. Regards, Pete I think we should start the healing process with the Muslim world by putting the neocons, starting with the architect of the Iraq invasion, Wolfowitz, on trail for war crimes ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] to start the healing process
Leland Jackson wrote: Hi Leland! Oh, for heaven's sake. Jesus might wring his hands and cry, like Jimmy Carter. Or he might hang out with Mary Magdalene, getting a foot rub and all that. BUT Jesus *could* stop the hijacked planes from hitting the towers if he chose to. I think Jesus wants us to handle this one ourselves. C-man had his way of under-the-table diplomacy, Bush has his own style which is somewhat different. You object to Bush's way, and I, obviously, object to C-man's. But Bush is the president right now. Regards, Pete Hey Michael, what would Jesus do. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] to start the healing process
Michael Madigan wrote: They live in America and hate America. Kill them all. Hi Michael! You could leave the ones who don't actually practice fundamentalist Islam. You could just kill the ones who have taken the pledge to kill us. Better yet, chain them up and work them continuously. If God favors them they will live through the work. Regards, Pete --- john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how do you propose to get the Arabs to do this? When they are sworn to kill the infidels (which means all non Muslims), how do you get beyond that? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Question abaout 9/11
Leland Jackson wrote: snip Even though this recent plot was unsuccessful, I am watching closely to see if the Bush Administration follows it trend, and trys to make another grab for power thought legislation Hi Leland! I dunno, Leland, power thought legislation, as you put it, may be a good thing. Just think of it: combining thought with power and legislation? It may never have been done before. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: snip I don't actually know how many living things have a soul. I believe that humans past some age do have a soul, but I suspect that there are other living things as well that have souls or spirits. Again, that falls into #3 -- God's business. Hi Kris! What if God made it His business to create a soul upon human conception, or to put it another way, past the age of conception? There is no way to know if He has or has not, but to assume that He has not is meddling in God's business, is it not? This is what the pro-choice/ abortion/ euthanasia crowd does, assume to meddle in God's business. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible
Leland Jackson wrote: snip The promise of God found in the Bible regarding eternal life is an unsolved mystery, but Got either is, or Gos is not. I have faith that God is. Hi Leland! The $8 spell checker must have Dot, DOS and Dog versions. The Windows version most likely just the DOS one with a GUI front end. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible
Leland Jackson wrote: Hi Leland! You proofread *after* you send? Curious. Regards, Pete Whoops, sorry Pete. s I guess I had better correct this. It should read: The promise of God found in the bible regarding eternal life is an unsolved mystery, but God is, or God is not. I have faith, and believe, God is. Regards, LelandJ The promise of God found in the Bible regarding eternal life is an unsolved mystery, but Got either is, or Gos is not. I have faith that God is. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Gravity vs. Evolution
Leland Jackson wrote: snip About 15,000 years ago, the gray wolf was the only species of dog, so in an relatively short evolutionary period of only 15,000 years, man has been able to created all the different breeds of dogs, each having its origins in the gray wolf. This gives some hint how evolution happens; how one specie can result in a variety of sub-species, for example. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4965516.stm Hi Leland! There were people outside the garden, when Adam and Eve were driven out. Who were they? People who had evolved from lower forms of life. The existence of evolution does not cancel out God, God created the first things - chemicals and whatever, and then provided the process for the first cell to come to life as well. If it had been any other way, we would now be creating life ourselves. If we ever do create life it will be because we will have discovered how God did it. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible
Leland Jackson wrote: snip A Jewish Rabi was interviewed by ABC news during the conference, and asked about the close alliance between the US and Israel, considering that the Jewish people have never accepted Jesus Christ. His reply to the statement was disarming. He said, when we meet with the Messiah we will ask him, is he returning, or is he coming. http://washingtontimes.com/national/20060712-114540-2037r.htm Hi Leland! The reply would be something not to be missed! I bet even Ed will take a peek at the tube that day! Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Lieberman concedes to Antiwar Challenger
Leland Jackson wrote: I think the great spirit, the creator of all life, and the creator of the universe Hi Leland! Aha! Religion without the G-word, or the C-word? Explains the liberalism, sure enough. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Lieberman concedes to Antiwar Challenger
Michael Madigan wrote: Sermon on the mound, huh ? LOL Hi Michael! Just wait, sooner or later he will spell it mons. We know the sermon was on the mount. Too much baseball. Regards, Pete snip From Christ's sermon on the mound: ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Lieberman concedes to Antiwar Challenger
Leland Jackson wrote: I saw a reference to Sermon on the Mound when googling for the scripture, and was wondering about that. Anyway, I don't know of anywhere in the Bible where unintended spelling errors are unforgivable sin, or even a sin for that matter. Hi Leland! I didn't say it was a sin, I said Chirt would get you, like you get to heaven and your name tag says Layland or something like that. Lighten up, eh? Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] all we've seen so far is just a prelude
Bob Calco wrote: ! ! Bob, you're really starting to sound like a (little bit) more ! prolific Madigan...are you obsessed with homosexuality like him? ! Well you didn't like the egocentric self-proclaimed intellectual Bob so I decided to try a different approach, one that you seem to enjoy better and to which your responses are measurably more, well, gay (in the traditional sense of the term). gay adj 1: bright and pleasant; promoting a feeling of cheer; Hi Bob! Now you know why I prefer faggot, less ambiguous. http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mfaggot.html Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Lieberman concedes to Antiwar Challenger
Leland Jackson wrote: You're even out of step with your own folks on this one. It was the Radical Religious Right who were up in arms over this ridiculous choice to the Supreme Court. Harriet Miers was a very good corporate, contract attorney, but had no qualifications or experience what-so-ever in the area of Constitutional Law. Her main qualifications, that made her an appealing nomination to the Bush Administration, was her Born again Christian credentials, coupled with a close relationship with George W. Bush as his personal counsel. LOL Hi Leland! Chirt is *still* going to get you, for misspelling His name! *Christ* is one name you dare not misspell, $8 spell checker or otherwise. Regards, Pete Leland Jackson wrote: I remember Senator Lieberman best as one of the 7 Democratic centrist, who joined with 7 Republican centrist, to prevent Senator Frist from abolishing the filibuster, which would have allow president Bush to more easily pack the court with Judges who were less than qualified for the Supreme Court, like his own personal councel, Harriet Miers, for Chirt's sake. snip Chirt is going to get you. I think Harriet Miers would be a wonderful supreme court justice. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] MySpace.com / Google deal [OT]
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: petetheisen wrote: I have heard that kind of stuff, but I am strictly Sgt. Schultz on the subject. Can Dad see what is going on if he monitors Precious' computer? Hi Ken! Not if she lives with mom or is at school. You could get that software that takes screen captures in the background every 'n' seconds and occasionally check that. There's a good ethics question: how far do you go to protect your kids or keep them from getting into trouble, versus invading and not respecting their privacy? I already have the router sending a log to me nightly (but that just shows sites she's visited, not what's she doing on those sites). At some point, you just have to trust them. But at what point? Advice from those who've parented longer than me? My daughter is 14 now and so those anxiety years are just around the corner for me! Hi Tom! Could be worse, *way* worse: http://leafe.com/archives/showFullThd/135386 from message 19 or so. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I got this garbage in the mail today
Leland Jackson wrote: Today, I heard former speaker of the house, Newt Gingrich, say that America was in the early stages of WWIII. I immediate thought of you; since this is what you have been saying for a long time, now. I'm not ready for a WWIII. You have been reading too many article like like the one at the end of the below link, but it is mostly propaganda based on fear/hate. http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13230 Hi Leland! Interesting article, how do you know it is not accurate? Oh, you don't WANT it to be accurate . . . silly me! Regards, Pete snip give me liberty or give me death. Yeah, Achmed will be happy to kill you. He has big plans for your wife and any daughters you may still have with you. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I got this garbage in the mail today
Leland Jackson wrote: Hey, its not really pulpit unless you have a bible thumping Religious Righter hypocrite standing behind it spouting the End of Day with an approaching battle of Armageddon, (eg WWIII) at the door. Hi Leland! You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but the end is not yet. WWIII is due. After WWIII there will be 50 to 60 years of relative peace and then another big one, WWIV. Armageddon? Nah. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Honesty and Integrity - NOT!
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: Ed Leafe wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2273111page=1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - A tiny little movie making fun of Al Gore snip Do you think that President Gore is going to be any better in terms of keeping the oil companies in check or forcing better conditions? Hi Michael! He won't even get nominated. This is going to be the year Katherine Harris comes back. If she is a Senator she can run and not give up her Senate seat a la Kerry. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] MySpace.com / Google deal
MB Software Solutions wrote: petetheisen wrote: MB Software Solutions wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060808/ap_on_hi_te/google_news_corp MySpace seems like a young (20-something) thingie to me. Anyone here the exception to that demographic on there? Hi Michael! I am 61, I have a MySpace. President Bush has something like 100 MySpaces, but some of these might be fake. http://www.myspace.com/petetheisen wow pete...your female friends are HOTTIES! ;-) Hi Michael! Don't judge them by their looks, they are also quite sweet. Shy, though. Except Angie, she is more confident. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Right bait
Hi Everybody! I am a social conservative, true enough, but more centrist on economic issues. Here is an article challenging the usual conservative view on minimum wage. http://tbo.com/news/money/email/MGBF6CTLLQE.html Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] MySpace.com / Google deal
Ken Kixmoeller (j/s) wrote: On Aug 7, 2006, at 11:40 PM, MB Software Solutions wrote: MySpace seems like a young (20-something) thingie to me. Anyone here the exception to that demographic on there? Chris Erskine, a humor columnist, suggests (seriously) that parents, especially fathers, create MySpace sites. Two reasons: - It will make it just un-cool enough that kids will think twice about it. - Letting our kids know that they can't hide may make them more judicious in using it. http://tinyurl.com/kq4du Hi Ken! Really! All sweetie pie has to do is *say* she is 18 when she signs up, request a private profile, or use a phony name (pseudonym) and/or someone else's picture and dad is off the trail. Some of the stuff on there is just awful, but I weed it out on mine with strict controls that don't effect the few serious users. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Justice for Green, but don't stop there
Bill Arnold wrote: Soldier Testifies of Stress in Iraq Unit http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060808/D8JC90NO0.html snips this is an example of what happens to some people when their world is reduced to (in fact or in perception) survival and they don't have a strong enough sense of ethics and morality to hold onto what we call sanity. Hi Bill! If they don't have a strong sense of ethics and morality they will get into trouble right at home where survival is little or no perceived issue, and the ones at home often do. It's often said, and it's true, that you just don't know how people will behave in life or death situations. You didn't ever see any of your comrades in 'Nam act honorably and bravely, did you? Never before have we sent people to kill, die and suffer for essentially no reason. Of course we have. Vietnam was for as much reason as this. 'Nam was for the row of dominoes (and trade, and the MIC) Afghanistan was against terror and Iraq was about moving the WMDs to Syria. These are approximately equivalent. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I got this garbage in the mail today
Bill Arnold wrote: snip So long as our so-called representatives are beholden to monied interests, they will act in the service of the hand that feeds them. Remove money from the equation - and bust up the media stranglehold - and we'll start to see people run for office who actually care about the people they represent. The counter-argument goes that we need giants and can't survive without their vision. For many years I believed this, but now, looking at what they've done with the power, I'm disgusted and contemptuous. Hi Bill! How can you *effectively* combat them without becoming them? Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] MySpace.com / Google deal [OT]
Ken Kixmoeller (j/s) wrote: On Aug 8, 2006, at 9:07 PM, petetheisen wrote: eally! All sweetie pie has to do is *say* she is 18 when she signs up, request a private profile, or use a phony name (pseudonym) and/or someone else's picture and dad is off the trail. I have heard that kind of stuff, but I am strictly Sgt. Schultz on the subject. Can Dad see what is going on if he monitors Precious' computer? Hi Ken! Not if she lives with mom or is at school. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: snip there is some basis for thinking that in hell there will be burning torment. I disagree. Some hold that the references to fire refer to the kind of fire like in a trash dump or a cremation, which leaves nothing but ash. I take exception to the idea of an eternal, non-consuming fire of eternal torture. Whoever dreamed that concept up was trying to scare people into doing what s/he wanted, IMO. I simply don't believe in a doctrine that would hold that Gandhi is going to burn in eternal torture because he was not a Christian, or that Mother Teresa is going to burn eternally because she didn't belong to Jerry Fallwell's church or some such thing. It makes no sense to me. Hi Kris! We really don't know about these things. There is no need for us to know, our egos would be satisfied if we did, though. As it is, it is all speculation. That said, it is better to follow your conscience than your passions. I think we do know the difference between these. Neither Gandhi nor Mother Theresa lived passionate lives that I know of. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I got this garbage in the mail today
Leland Jackson wrote: snip I don't think any churches would try to qualify for exemption under IRC Section 527. LOL Whoops, it looks like the Bush Administration has been very busy in this area of taxation and has amended the tax code to remove almost all of the reporting requirements of PAC Hi Leland! Do you know for a fact that the Bush administration did this? He may have just signed it once congress passed it. I think to do everything the Ds accuse him of he would have to be superman. Not only that, the law applies equally to all pacs, not just the R pacs. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Lieberman concedes to Antiwar Challenger
Leland Jackson wrote: I remember Senator Lieberman best as one of the 7 Democratic centrist, who joined with 7 Republican centrist, to prevent Senator Frist from abolishing the filibuster, which would have allow president Bush to more easily pack the court with Judges who were less than qualified for the Supreme Court, like his own personal councel, Harriet Miers, for Chirt's sake. LOL. I respect Senator Lieberman for his stand to protect the Senate filibuster, but now Senator Lieberman should throw his support behind Ned Lamont who won the Democratic primary. Instead, Senator Lieberman is planning on running as an independent. This could split the Democratic vote and allow a Neo-Conservative Bush Republican to win the Senate seat. Hi Leland! Chirt is going to get you. I think Harriet Miers would be a wonderful supreme court justice. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Lieberman concedes to Antiwar Challenger
Michael Madigan wrote: Wow, they certainly stabbed this guy in the back. No honor among Democrats or Thieves. Hi Michael! They will split the aging hippie vote and the R will win. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I got this garbage in the mail today
Leland Jackson wrote: snip give me liberty or give me death. Hi Leland! Yeah, Achmed will be happy to kill you. He has big plans for your wife and any daughters you may still have with you. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] I got this garbage in the mail today
Leland Jackson wrote: snip I think the US is in Iraq to protect its pulpit government Hi Leland! Here you go sneaking in more of the religious righter argument! Pulpit government, you know, that's almost funny. I remember in the late 50s being told from the pulpit to NOT see Audrey Hepburn's The Nuns Story. When I eventually saw it in the last few years I thought I can't figure what the fuss was about. I don't think the pulpit can govern. http://www.audrey1.com/articles/articles14.html Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] MySpace.com / Google deal
MB Software Solutions wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060808/ap_on_hi_te/google_news_corp MySpace seems like a young (20-something) thingie to me. Anyone here the exception to that demographic on there? Hi Michael! I am 61, I have a MySpace. President Bush has something like 100 MySpaces, but some of these might be fake. http://www.myspace.com/petetheisen Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Pete, Where in the first five books does the bible speak of eternal fire, and escaping it by saying a prayer before dying? Or do you mean the fundamentalists are reading that in to something that says something else? The eternal roasting stuff is something that was added by some Christian groups after the fact. I never saw it in the Bible, and I've been through it many times. Forgiveness at the last moment has a precedent in the story of the thieves on the cross next to Jesus. But the roasting forever idea has no biblical precedent. Every time I've heard someone come up with what they believe to be a biblical basis for it, they've had to stitch together several things from different parts of the old and new testaments and then hope nobody's paying too much attention to it. Hi Kris! What about the thief who continued to mock Jesus? Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Pete, What about the thief who continued to mock Jesus? Are you just trying to bait me? Hi Kris! Why, you know me better than that? s I would really like to know what you think happened to him. He clearly didn't say a prayer before he died, more on the order of uttering a curse, a curse upon God himself. By the way, I am skipping Church today as I do most Sundays. Will be getting off of work at about 6 and by the time Church is on I expect to be very asleep. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible
Stephen the Cook wrote: snip Angles the first SPAM. Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ Hi Stephen! I don't understand the part about Angles the first SPAM. What do you mean by that? Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Pete, How do you know, did God tell you that He didn't say anything? That is the kind of argument that goes around and around and never goes anywhere. Faith and reason are not in conflict. Hi Kris! No, they are not in conflict at all. This is why I can hardly believe that you don't believe the Word of God. Have you some reason to not believe in the Word, Got notwithstanding? Regards, Pete Try reason. Got gave you a brain. Perhaps you were supposed to USE it. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The Fog of Liberalism: A Mental Disorder?
Michael Madigan wrote: http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=22788 Hi Michael! Did you subscribe? If you did, how much did it cost and what did you get? Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: snip No, they are not in conflict at all. This is why I can hardly believe that you don't believe the Word of God. Have you some reason to not believe in the Word, Got notwithstanding? I don't believe that the text we have today is the complete word that God wanted us to hear. The first 5 books of the Hebrew Torah were written by Moses and were never intended to be treated as a factual history of the world. I believe they are an allegory, and since that's what the Hebrews themselves think I certainly don't think I'm off-base in that view. I understand that the young fundamentalist churches do not choose to view it the same way, but that is not a view held by religious groups older than, say, 200 years of age. Fundamentalists tend to be zealots of young religious groups. They tend to have studied less, and have teachers without a full grounding in the history of the texts used for preaching. So no, I don't subscribe to the views that fundamentalists preach. I never have. It just made no sense to me, even when I was a child. Why on earth would God punish a person in hell fire for eternity because they didn't say a prayer just before getting hit by a bus? That just doesn't make any sense to me. I wouldn't even do that to a rattlesnake. God gave me a brain and I will use it, thank you very much. Hi Kris! Thoughtful post, thanks for taking the trouble. Well, I know little about fundamentalists, certainly know that I am not one. I agree with you about the bus to an extent. The person's whole life has to be considered, and we can trust God to be fair. If a person's whole life has been righteous, the prayer before dying will not matter. If the person's whole life has been blasphemous, the prayer before dying might not help. Where in the first five books does the bible speak of eternal fire, and escaping it by saying a prayer before dying? Or do you mean the the fundamentalists are reading that in to something that says something else? Regards, Pete - Kris www.shamrocktrails.com, www.mcstyles.com, www.emryldlife.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible
Ed Leafe wrote: On Aug 5, 2006, at 1:26 PM, Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Try reason. Got gave you a brain. Perhaps you were supposed to USE it. It's the same principle as those who see abstaining from sex as a virtue. God gave you genitals, but *good* people don't use them unless they have to. Same thing with the brain. Hi Ed! You have it wrong this time. Good people do not use either brain nor genitals in an inappropriate manner. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: snip) It's the same principle as those who see abstaining from sex as a virtue. God gave you genitals, but *good* people don't use them unless they have to. Same thing with the brain. I know my viewpoints are unpopular among evangelicals. They all talk to each other exclusively to the point that they no longer can see how silly some of the taken-for-granted-reality ideas they think are set in stone really are. snip Micah 6:8 to our fundamentalist chiropractor a couple of weeks ago as something that Steve and I have adopted as our watch-words to TRY to live by... Do Justly, Love Mercy, Walk Humbly. He TRIED to give me a tract explaining how nobody could live right so don't try snip I don't even recognize the evangelical say magic words, do nothing theologies that are being bandied about these days. Hi Kris! Quite right, the fundamentalists can be conveniently defeatist. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible
Stephen the Cook wrote: petetheisen wrote: I don't understand the part about Angles the first SPAM. What do you mean by that? Messengers. Hi Stevphen! Ok, but angels not angles. Regards, Pete Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible
Stephen the Cook wrote: snip Fornication falls under the Adultery banner. Abortion comes under murder, dumbass No, they do not. Murder is a special class of killing. Lots of types of killing are not murder. Fornication is not adultery. Recall that in the Big 10, adultery is not called adultery, it is called coveting your neighbor's wife. That is a very specific case pertaining to people that are married. That's why there are two different names for each of these activities, DOOFUS. They are to different activities. Having a mistress is cool. If she is married then it's not. Don't you all Hi Stephen! Nothing to say about it if *you* are married? Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible
Ed Leafe wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:38 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: The earliest periods diagrammed in the timeline represent a fusion between the two positions. Most scholarly assessments categorize the early books of the Hebrew Bible as legend. Fundamentalists consider them to be real history. The diagrams found here for that period are something of a compromise: Include the personages, but scale back the timespans, typically years lived or reigned, so that they better match other historical records (e.g. those from Egypt). This is done for the patriarchs and judges. You might call it modified fundamentalist. Oh, this changes how I live my life, and what I hold to be important!! I can't wait until he comes out with the Angles On The Head Of A Pin chart!! Hi Lel . . . uh, Ed! Angles would be problematical. Angels, on the other hand, all that there are can be on the head of any pin, none of them take up any space. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Get a bigger view on the Bible
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: snip There is no such thing as a God said it, I believe it, that settles it truth or fact basis for life. Hi Kris! How do you know, did God tell you that He didn't say anything? Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] how true is this?
Stephen Russell wrote: http://www.lyingsocialistweasels.com/republican%20rules.htm Hi Stephen! It is just a cheap-shot parody. I'd be willing to bet that the person maintaining it is *not* a Republican and thus has no idea. Regards, Pet ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The Passion of the Drunk
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Madigan, I wonder if he ever made his girlfriend have an abortion? I wonder how your mother was persuaded against it. Some days your persistent one-track rant about an issue that has nothing to do with your own life is extremely annoying. Today you are 46 on the annoying meter out of 100. Trust me, you don't want to get over 90. Hi Kris! Oh, come ON! You wouldn't do anything, even at 100. Annoying is not a crime or even a sin - especially if there is a seed of truth in it. Don't liberals believe in freedom of speech? Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] ME slaughterhouses exposed as barbaric
Hal Kaplan wrote: Dominic, I fear you have over-imbibed the tainted Kool-Aid. You have been brainwashed. Let's look at things from another perspective. If a lab rat's welfare is just as important as a human's, then YOUR welfare is just as important as a lab rat's. Or a fly. A mosquito! Before we become so obsessed with animal welfare, why don't we tackle man's inhumanity to man? There are countless humans who are dumped on every day and many of them feel helpless to do anything about their plight. They feel they were born to be at the bottom of humanity. Frustrated and unable to cope with it, some of them take their inner hostilities out on animals. Perhaps if there was a PeTH, we would not need a PeTA. Not that it matters in the UK but in the USA, our Constitution specifically prohibits cruel and unusual punishment for persons convicted of committing crimes. Yet many Americans favor the death penalty. Hi Hal! If the criminal is killed he/she does not repeat the crime. If I were governor I would sign every death warrant with conditional clemency - that the condemned person was to be executed immediately if the condemned person ever appealed (except with dna evidence that he/she couldn't have done it), caused any trouble or tried to escape. In other words, the jury and judge condemned them, but if they shut up, stay in prison and behave I would let them live. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Bill of Rights, RIP
Ed Leafe wrote: The White House is seeking legislation that would allow people not affiliated with terrorism to be prosecuted in military commissions -- with far fewer rights than afforded civilians. http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/world/15176692.htm ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/jwx9h ) Hi Ed! It is a leak. Wait for the official version, if there even is one, before you judge it. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Bill of Rights, RIP
Leland Jackson wrote: It seem the neo-conservative Bush Administration is up to its old tricks. Hi Leland! Read it again, Leland. It is a leak, there has been no official word that the administration has, or will, propose this. Put your shirt back on and take your pills. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Why we should trust the police
Ed Leafe wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html? in_article_id=397240in_page_id=1766in_page_id=1766expand=true ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/l45a5 ) Remember all those simple-minded folks who pooh-pooh worries about over-reaching police-state tactics with if you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about? Hi Ed! They *did* do something wrong, and they were booked and spent a little time out of circulation. If they had been my kids they would have been grounded for the weekend when they got home. Had I been the law, they would have spent the next weekend picking up papers in that park. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] ME slaughterhouses exposed as barbaric
Michael Madigan wrote: This experiment can be duplicated over and over again. Hi Michael! Yes, and I think we have. Repeatability is one of the scientific proofs, not that any liberal would admit it in this connection. Regards, Pete Dominic Burford wrote: yawn See my previous post. /yawn Hi Dominic! You have been setting a pattern. You toss out some sort of left-liberal crap, Michael and/or I respond with our usual rebuttals, you testily reply to the effect that we don't know what we are talking about and demand an example, we supply the examples and finally you authoritatively dismiss our examples as outdated, an isolated exception or whatever. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] ME slaughterhouses exposed as barbaric
Dominic Burford wrote: snip the cranks who criticise you when you reference an internet site, will do just the same when trying to prop up their own infantile claims). Hi Dominic! You damned hypocrite. You inferred to many studies then when called on it said it wasn't from the internet. OK, then, come forth with the many studies, they must have titles and authors, if they even exist at all they will be cataloged on the internet, if not published. The internet is news, but often the news is fake. The internet is rarely science, but can sometimes be news of science. You never accept any references from the internet that *refute* you, but you have been known to cite web references you find entertaining of your own bias. Looks like wanting it both ways to me. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] ME slaughterhouses exposed as barbaric
Ed Leafe wrote: On Aug 2, 2006, at 9:07 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: You're saying that these events, which happened (and still do) quite regularly, were not the work of PETA, but by large numbers of 'rogue' members across the world who all happened to employ the same tactic in the same manner? Has any official PETA statement been made that disavowed these tactics, and called for those who carried them out to be put in jail? Or how about targeting children with graphic images or buckets of blood? Yes, the best public discourse is carried out by targeting children and scaring them. http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_detail.cfm?headline=2537 Or how about PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk saying: Even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we’d be against it. http://www.consumerfreedom.com/pressrelease_detail.cfm?release=153 I don't know what PETA is like in your country, but over here they are no more civilized than most radical anti-abortion groups, who feel that they have The Truth, and are therefore justified in doing Whatever It Takes to make others see The Truth. As a vegetarian and not a Vegetarian, I hate getting lumped with these groups. I'm for the ethical treatment of animals, but I don't want anyone telling me whose ethics I have to use. Especially not people who value the life of a lab rat over the life of a human being. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com Hi Ed! Well stated. Whose choice is it to eat meat or vegetables, the person contemplating the eating or someone illegally threatening him/her? Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Iraq achieves a government like ours...
Helio W. wrote: No. Their government is becoming like Brazil's. Hi Helio! Corruption in Brazil? The guy down the hall goes there all the time, he hasn't mentioned it. I think it may be identical to what we are very used to in the US. He has mentioned that he finds the women in Brazil open to his friendship. By the way, he is a neighbor, but he and I are not what you would call close. There is a difference. Usually, the people I talk to at length are women. Most men bore me, usually too interested in sports and sex. Regards, Pete On 8/2/06, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...with Republicans running it! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060801/ap_on_go_ot/iraq_reconstruction_2 ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/njgro ) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Iraq achieves a government like ours...
Bill Arnold wrote: snip You hear about the Democratic party's latest folly? Now they say they want to begin withdrawing U.S. troops by the end of the year and to transition to a more limited mission in the war-torn nation. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/31/AR200607 3100743.html Now the gang who can't shoot straight wants to point the gun right at the last Americans to leave Iraq, as if they have no idea whatsoever what a transition to a more limited mission will actually boil down to. Hi Bill! This is the problem with a withdrawal timetable. Why Nixon resisted one for so long in Vietnam, but finally it had to be. Same thing happening now, because we cannot muster the will to win. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] regarding OT [disco version]
Michael Madigan wrote: I think it has more to do with sunspots. Hi Michael! Barbecue and beer. Regards, Pete --- Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Notwithstanding the other comments previously presented in this thread, I would personally like to take credit for the recent decrease in OT postings ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Heat wave
Michael Madigan wrote: BFD. You think we've never seen hot, humid weather in NY before. What nonsense. Hi Michael! NOW is the time for the idiot Gore to be out speaking on the street corners about his supposed Global Warming. Where is he, in some bar with Al Sharpton or Rudy Giuliani? We will get back to that subject when the weather turns chilly, or worse. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Dominic Burford wrote: And yet so many people here continue to feel the need to engage them. I do not always post with the explicit intention of replying to a specific individual, but for anyone who may be lurking and reading the thread. You are right that replying to certain individuals is a waste of time, and I know perfectly well who they are, but I am not really interested in them. In the battle for hearts and minds, most of these individuals have proven that they have neither. Hi Dominic! Conservatives suggest the seemingly harsh measures that they suggest in the sincere belief that these resolute approaches will actually save lives by bringing the hostilities to an abrupt end. The bleeding-heart hand-wringing liberal approach gives us the Korea, Vietnam and I dare say Iraq scenarios. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Castro goes into surgery, let's hope he croaks.
Michael Madigan wrote: Castro goes into surgery, let's hope he croaks. Hezbollah Human Shields http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/1688255 Right Wing Stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike Horse Racing Photos at http://www.HorseRacingPix.com Hi Michael! Got a link? Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] ME slaughterhouses exposed as barbaric
Dominic Burford wrote: Hi Dominic! PETA is a terrorist organization, and those who support PETA are supporting terrorism. Oh, why are we not surprised that you support PETA? LIAMD, as Michael says. That said, yes, western people eat too much meat, the meat is unhealthily produced and the meat industry needs to be cleaned up as far as unnecessary manhandling of the animals and so on. PETA, however, has no standing of any kind, on this or anything else. Regards, Pete I can only conclude that neither one of you actually watched the video clip. Watch the video, and see if you can still make these comments in light of what you will have seen. For what it is worth, vegetarians and vegans in general tend to be snip Donate to PETA to help stop these barbaric practices. snip And also accost kids with leaflets accusing their mothers of murder. Liberalism is a mental disease, as Michael has told us. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] ME slaughterhouses exposed as barbaric
Dominic Burford wrote: Name one, just one act or terrorism that PETA have been responsible for. Put up or shut up. Hi Dominic! How genteel. Throwing blood onto people who seem to be wearing fur - a number later complained that the fur was fake, the blood, however, was real. Blood, fake or real, is dangerous. Throwing *anything* on people is terrorism. And anyone approaching my child with a leaflet accusing me of murder, if you can't see these as terrorists there is no hope for you. PETA doesn't do anything in our town, it is not tolerated. Regards, Pete Regards Dominic Burford BSc Hons MBCS CITP ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] ME slaughterhouses exposed as barbaric
Dominic Burford wrote: Don't you know that almost all internet When did I say I was referring to an internet site? Hi Dominic! Oh, your many studies may as well be no studies then. You have never read them, you may have read *of* them but that is not the same thing, is it? If you had read them you would have said (Name of researcher) and (Name of other researcher, etc.) but you didn't. Vegetarianism is for anorexic girls, and faggots. Normal people need a little meat. Not gobs and gobs of it, but a little. How do I know? I have personally experimented for a period of several years incidental to my preparation for med school. Regards, Pete snip Many studies have found Hi Dominic! OMG, more studies! Don't you know that almost all internet science is nowadays faked? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Dominic Burford wrote: Hi Dominic! I don't know how much more real the issue can be than that of hugging terrorists, hating America and hating Israel can be. Real issues indeed. If treason is not an issue, then there are no issues. The argument of real issues other than these is the straw man. Regards, Pete Quotes from myself to Michael on another, related thread: The US will never openly condemn Israel. It is no coincidence that your news coverage always seems to paint Israel's enemies as the bad guys (Palestine, Lebanon, getting the picture yet?) Israel fire at who they like, and act with impunity, because they know that their bigger brother - the US - will always defend them. It seems many people have been brainwashed by their media and politicians. The simple minded folk on this list who defend Israel do so using the antiquated straw man analogy that we must all be extreme liberals who would love to hug a terrorist. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Stephen the Cook wrote: petetheisen wrote: Stephen the Cook wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: Lie down with terrorists, wake up dead. Live 2 blocks away and find your building was blown up because the Israelis goofed. To bad your wife and kids were there. Sucks for them. Hi Stephen! The Israelis told the civilians to clear out before they started shooting. The ones shot evidently chose to tempt fate. Would you really listen to the enemy? Come on Pete. You would have had your gun drawn and a few boxes of ammo handy. Hi Stephen! I would have sent my wife and for God's sake my children to safety should I have chosen to resist. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Dominic Burford wrote: hugging terrorists, hating America and hating Israel These are complex issues Hi Dominic! The issues in fact are *very* simple. It is the straw man argument to paint them as having nuances or whatever. The Ts are firing rockets into Israel. It just doesn't get much simpler than that. OK, 911 is simpler. In response, Israel, the US and any other right thinking nation eliminates the terrorists. If eliminating the terrorists means killing every male muslim who does not surrender with his hands up, then that is what has to happen. Complex indeed. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Yet another hypocrite
Ed Leafe wrote: This time, it's Condi: Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Monday she will seek international consensus for a cease-fire and a lasting settlement in the conflict between Lebanon and Israel through a U.N. Security Council resolution this week. Hi Ed! It is just a gesture. If she didn't do it she would be criticized for not doing it. No one seriously expects anything but double parking of limousines AND WORSE from the UN. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Ed Leafe wrote: On Jul 31, 2006, at 12:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is unfortunate that in our colonial past we acted the same way towards the British, in that we deviated from the standard rules of war, and frustrated a superior army and navy in manpower and assets. So it's OK that we did it and bad that others are doing similar? Kind of like business, where you have to reinvent yourself every so often. It has nothing to do with any of that. You must first accept the notion that US is divinely guided, and that anything we do is Good. Same with Israel. We are incapable of doing bad things, since a priori everything we do is Good. When we wipe out a population and take their land, it is Manifest Destiny, and if you were an Indian, well, sucks to be you, but God wanted us to do it. Same thing when we torture people; it's not brutal and inhuman, because it's Jesus' hand placing the electrodes on their testicles, not ours. Your thinking is being clouded by these wacky shades of grey concepts. Things make much more sense when you only think in these black-and-white notions. Hi Ed! I knew you really understood! Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Profox wrote: snipped I'll condemn Syria, Iran and Hezboullah. Israel has the right to do what they are doing. However, they won't succeed because you can't fight terrorists or terrorism with a standing army. Hi Jim! Interesting post. Of course, there would be no armed opposition to what you propose, thus no bloodshed. OK, maybe a little. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Ed, Your thinking is being clouded by these wacky shades of grey concepts. Things make much more sense when you only think in these black-and-white notions. That must be why Ann Coulter is always in a short black dress Hi Kris! The little black dress idea came from Audrey Hepburn. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Stephen the Cook wrote: petetheisen wrote: Dominic Burford wrote: hugging terrorists, hating America and hating Israel These are complex issues Hi Dominic! The issues in fact are *very* simple. It is the straw man argument to paint them as having nuances or whatever. Wow. Why not call Condi and tell her what is really going on. She will just have you relocate and fix the problem. It's really easy! Hi Stephen! Condi already knows. It doesn't matter what you do, the ones who want your job will criticize no matter what. I want to do something unrelated to politics, though, for my paid job. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Bill Arnold wrote: Here's my list of what I think should happen tomorrow: 1. Give every neocon in Washington a pink slip and a court date for the murder Hi Bill! For all your years of therapy you are still crazy. Track down all those shrinks and say you want your money back. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] a plea to reasonable people
Bill Arnold wrote: The neocons knew all along snip Hi Bill! Start your post off name-calling, as usual. If that isn't reasonable I don't know what is. The minute we can no longer access the Internet anonymously, it's power is drained. Does this have to be explained? Explain how anonymity can be at all, even a little bit, helpful. If you don't have the guts to say Bill Arnold wrote this I might think that someone else did. How often do YOU post anonymous messages on the web, anyway? To put it another way, some MALE convicted child molester puts up a website claiming he is Paris Hilton and she wants to audition children and young teens for a part in her new movie at a motel in the next town. Anonymity IS helpful in this, maybe this is what you really want to do? That or deal pot, you have a history of that do you not? Biometric signatures on internet communication, the sooner the better. I understand the fingerprint reader is already available, perhaps the iris reader as well. If you aren't doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about by properly identifying your messages. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] The savages are breaking into the UN offices in Beirut
Stephen the Cook wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: Lie down with terrorists, wake up dead. Live 2 blocks away and find your building was blown up because the Israelis goofed. To bad your wife and kids were there. Sucks for them. Hi Stephen! The Israelis told the civilians to clear out before they started shooting. The ones shot evidently chose to tempt fate. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
