RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems?
In my experience ( sys admin for a large auto dealer group in upstate NY )linux doesn't work for two reasons. First, their websites tend to search for IE and install ActiveX components. In theory, this could be overcome in Linux via Wine or Crossover. The other reason is they write ( or hire third parties to write ) technician tools that only run within windows. It's funny though, the Chrysler diagnostic tools run Linux but the software is windows only. ADP runs on Red Hat, but won't issue a Linux client. It's really amazing. They really need to come out of the closet. I have successfully run Ubuntu, Linspire and Debian distributions on PC's that are used primarily by salespeople and it has worked out nicely. Linux has come far enough along so networking, printing, internet and office apps are all pretty much bulletproof for simple environments. Outside of the FUD factor, there's no real reason why 80% of a normal dealership couldn't run Linux-based OS's and gain all the benefits of not using windows. David Smith Systems Administrator Doan Family of Dealerships (585) 352-6600 ext.1730 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.upstatedigitools.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul McNett Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems? Gil Hale wrote: Did y'all catch the article in this (next) month's PC World, where one writer says it may be a good time for folks (small businesses) to move to Linux? Very well done. Unfortunately it would not work with auto dealership operations. What is special about auto dealers that Linux wouldn't work for them? What ties them to Windows? Why not break that tie? Paul [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems?
Well put, my friend! Proff FUD is effective g... Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Smith Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 7:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet,or is the eMail service having problems? In my experience ( sys admin for a large auto dealer group in upstate NY )linux doesn't work for two reasons. First, their websites tend to search for IE and install ActiveX components. In theory, this could be overcome in Linux via Wine or Crossover. The other reason is they write ( or hire third parties to write ) technician tools that only run within windows. It's funny though, the Chrysler diagnostic tools run Linux but the software is windows only. ADP runs on Red Hat, but won't issue a Linux client. It's really amazing. They really need to come out of the closet. I have successfully run Ubuntu, Linspire and Debian distributions on PC's that are used primarily by salespeople and it has worked out nicely. Linux has come far enough along so networking, printing, internet and office apps are all pretty much bulletproof for simple environments. Outside of the FUD factor, there's no real reason why 80% of a normal dealership couldn't run Linux-based OS's and gain all the benefits of not using windows. David Smith Systems Administrator Doan Family of Dealerships (585) 352-6600 ext.1730 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.upstatedigitools.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul McNett Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems? Gil Hale wrote: Did y'all catch the article in this (next) month's PC World, where one writer says it may be a good time for folks (small businesses) to move to Linux? Very well done. Unfortunately it would not work with auto dealership operations. What is special about auto dealers that Linux wouldn't work for them? What ties them to Windows? Why not break that tie? Paul [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems?
I wonder if there a program like this that enables recording VOIP phone calls, rather than (or in addition to) analog. It looks like the Advanced Phone Recorder does the job for the analog type of voice transmission. PHRiveraSr * -Original Message- * From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:profoxtech- * [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Hale * Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:31 AM * To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Subject: RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service * havingproblems? * * For me the items that keep me from going Pure Linux on my primary * communication PC are: * * QuickBooks * Quicken * pcAnywhere * Advanced Phone Recorder (yes, I record phone calls using my PC now, * more * below) * VFP * Outlook * Blackberry data exchange with Blackberry * * PROCEDURE RantRegardingPhoneRecordings Many snipped lines!!! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems?
Skype has such an add on. Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pablo Rivera Sr. Sent: 18 September 2008 18:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet,or is the eMail service having problems? I wonder if there a program like this that enables recording VOIP phone calls, rather than (or in addition to) analog. It looks like the Advanced Phone Recorder does the job for the analog type of voice transmission. PHRiveraSr ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems?
The way phone tag works is that it redirects what ever messaging service you have. For example I have Verizon standard messaging service. After you subscribe to phone tag, you send a star code to your messaging service and it redirects your messages to phone tag. There phone tag records the message and emails you text of the message and a wave file. It also texts you who and when someone called and hung up - which is pretty cool. Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Phoenix Python User Group - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pablo Rivera Sr. wrote: I wonder if there a program like this that enables recording VOIP phone calls, rather than (or in addition to) analog. It looks like the Advanced Phone Recorder does the job for the analog type of voice transmission. PHRiveraSr * -Original Message- * From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:profoxtech- * [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Hale * Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:31 AM * To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Subject: RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service * havingproblems? * * For me the items that keep me from going Pure Linux on my primary * communication PC are: * * QuickBooks * Quicken * pcAnywhere * Advanced Phone Recorder (yes, I record phone calls using my PC now, * more * below) * VFP * Outlook * Blackberry data exchange with Blackberry * * PROCEDURE RantRegardingPhoneRecordings Many snipped lines!!! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems?
Thanks. I'll research these and others I may find to record VOIP telephone conversations. PHRiveraSr * -Original Message- * From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:profoxtech- * [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Johnson * Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:33 PM * To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Subject: Re: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service * having problems? * * The way phone tag works is that it redirects what ever messaging * service * you have. For example I have Verizon standard messaging service. * After * you subscribe to phone tag, you send a star code to your messaging * service and it redirects your messages to phone tag. There phone tag * records the message and emails you text of the message and a wave file. * It also texts you who and when someone called and hung up - which is * pretty cool. * * Jeff * * Jeff Johnson * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * SanDC, Inc. * 623-582-0323 * Fax 623-869-0675 * * Phoenix Python User Group - [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Pablo Rivera Sr. wrote: * I wonder if there a program like this that enables recording VOIP * phone * calls, rather than (or in addition to) analog. It looks like the * Advanced * Phone Recorder does the job for the analog type of voice * transmission. * * PHRiveraSr * * * -Original Message- * * From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:profoxtech- * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Hale * * Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:31 AM * * To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Subject: RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service * * havingproblems? * * * * For me the items that keep me from going Pure Linux on my primary * * communication PC are: * * * * QuickBooks * * Quicken * * pcAnywhere * * Advanced Phone Recorder (yes, I record phone calls using my PC now, * * more * * below) * * VFP * * Outlook * * Blackberry data exchange with Blackberry * * * * PROCEDURE RantRegardingPhoneRecordings * * * Many snipped lines!!! * * * [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems?
Thanks. I'll research these, and others I may find, to record VOIP telephone conversations. PHRiveraSr * -Original Message- * From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:profoxtech- * [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen * Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:22 PM * To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Subject: RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service * having problems? * * Skype has such an add on. * Al * * -Original Message- * From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:profoxtech- * [EMAIL PROTECTED] On * Behalf Of Pablo Rivera Sr. * Sent: 18 September 2008 18:16 * To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Subject: RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet,or is the eMail service * having * problems? * * I wonder if there a program like this that enables recording VOIP phone * calls, rather than (or in addition to) analog. It looks like the * Advanced * Phone Recorder does the job for the analog type of voice * transmission. * * PHRiveraSr * * * [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems?
I never looked into that. gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pablo Rivera Sr. Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet,or is the eMail service having problems? I wonder if there a program like this that enables recording VOIP phone calls, rather than (or in addition to) analog. It looks like the Advanced Phone Recorder does the job for the analog type of voice transmission. PHRiveraSr * -Original Message- * From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:profoxtech- * [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Hale * Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:31 AM * To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Subject: RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service * havingproblems? * * For me the items that keep me from going Pure Linux on my primary * communication PC are: * * QuickBooks * Quicken * pcAnywhere * Advanced Phone Recorder (yes, I record phone calls using my PC now, * more * below) * VFP * Outlook * Blackberry data exchange with Blackberry * * PROCEDURE RantRegardingPhoneRecordings Many snipped lines!!! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems?
Gil Hale wrote: Is MS still relevant? Unfortunately, yes. But on a brighter note, a little less so than before due to FireFox, Mac and Linux eating (nibbling) out of its trough. The other day I was chatting with an associate who has been a True Blue M$ fan for years. He makes a great living setting up, configuring, upgrading, etc., anything and everything M$. He made the mistake of asking me how I like MS Server 2008. I don't really know how I like it. I am not running it, and don't plan to., I replied. I was expecting him to get all over me, but instead he asked what I am doing for Servers. I told him I still have a few Server 2003 machines, but have cut to Linux, first Suse Server, then Ubuntu Server. He was intrigued as to why I made that move, so I told him it was not so much the money (MSDN ISV takes a major part of the sting out there), but more the lack of solution value when I look at Ubuntu Linux that prevents me from staying with M$ Server OS solutions. Surprisingly he told me the M$ license fees to himself and his clients are getting ridiculously high, and has actually been looking to look at Linux for File, Web, eMail Server purposes for himself and clients. He has been losing bids to other folks who are using Linux for Servers (mostly, not so much desktops yet). He is looking at doing the same thing just to get his pricing competitive by knocking out M$ Server OS expenses. In the past he could have avoided making this move, but now things are tight and it is coming down to business survival. I did an Info Dump on him (poor bastard), and for once I actually blazed a trail for him to follow me (Linux), instead of the other way around. He may only support about 80 small businesses, but if he is looking for alternative solutions to reduce pricing for client projects, then others are/will also. A lot of little nibbles can quickly lead to Death By 1,000 Cuts g... Not that I want to see M$ crash and burn (it does that by itself very nicely already g), but I think it is time for M$ to get set back a few notches with their Greed Grab (yeah, I am still bitter re: the Terminal Server CAL duplicate license fees). BTW, have I told y'all how much I like my Ubuntu Linux Sever lately? heh-heh... :-) BTW Gil, I used to have a Debian desktop machine a couple of years ago. Reading your Ubuntu ads :) I downloaded a copy of KUbuntu (sorry, I really like KDE better) and used it as a boot CD, problem is it didn't detect my Wi-Fi connection. Back to W$, google, but the answers all require downloading stuff and I have no internet access from Kubuntu. I know I could find out where to get the packages, download them from W$, put them where I can get to them from KUbuntu and then install them from disk. But it sounds too complicated and all I want is a taste of how it would work (yes, internet access is an important part of the taste, I want to see what I have available for easy installation etc.). S... do you know of any easier workarounds? TIA ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems?
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :-) BTW Gil, I used to have a Debian desktop machine a couple of years ago. Reading your Ubuntu ads :) I downloaded a copy of KUbuntu (sorry, I really like KDE better) and used it as a boot CD, problem is it didn't detect my Wi-Fi connection. Back to W$, google, but the answers all require downloading stuff and I have no internet access from Kubuntu. I know I could find out where to get the packages, download them from W$, put them where I can get to them from KUbuntu and then install them from disk. But it sounds too complicated and all I want is a taste of how it would work (yes, internet access is an important part of the taste, I want to see what I have available for easy installation etc.). S... do you know of any easier workarounds? Walk over to your wireless router and disconnect it. Plug the cable into your computer. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems?
Ted Roche wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :-) BTW Gil, I used to have a Debian desktop machine a couple of years ago. Reading your Ubuntu ads :) I downloaded a copy of KUbuntu (sorry, I really like KDE better) and used it as a boot CD, problem is it didn't detect my Wi-Fi connection. Back to W$, google, but the answers all require downloading stuff and I have no internet access from Kubuntu. I know I could find out where to get the packages, download them from W$, put them where I can get to them from KUbuntu and then install them from disk. But it sounds too complicated and all I want is a taste of how it would work (yes, internet access is an important part of the taste, I want to see what I have available for easy installation etc.). S... do you know of any easier workarounds? Walk over to your wireless router and disconnect it. Plug the cable into your computer. LOL Piece of cake! ... erhhh... Forgot that my computer is in the little room on the other side of the garden from the router... nope, cable is only 2 mts. long, I'd need 20 mts.. Any OTHER suggestion? ;c) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems?
Greetings all! I have not seen any ProFox eMail come across for a while. Just wondering if it is something to do with my end of the connection, me getting booted for abusing ProFox g, or if everyone else is getting nothing also.. So, rather than sending , If you do not get this eMail please let me know kind of logic goofism, how about anyone seeing this eMail replying to my [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. Thanks! Gil --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems?
We are all out growing tomatoes... g v/r //SIGNED// Stephen S. Wolfe, YA2, DAF 6th MDG Data Services Manager 6th MDG Information System Security Officer Comm (813) 827-9994 DSN 651-9994 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Hale Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Com Subject: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems? Greetings all! I have not seen any ProFox eMail come across for a while. Just wondering if it is something to do with my end of the connection, me getting booted for abusing ProFox g, or if everyone else is getting nothing also.. So, rather than sending , If you do not get this eMail please let me know kind of logic goofism, how about anyone seeing this eMail replying to my [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. Thanks! Gil --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems?
Or older as the case may be G J. Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote: We are all out growing tomatoes... g v/r //SIGNED// Stephen S. Wolfe, YA2, DAF 6th MDG Data Services Manager 6th MDG Information System Security Officer Comm (813) 827-9994 DSN 651-9994 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Hale Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Com Subject: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems? Greetings all! I have not seen any ProFox eMail come across for a while. Just wondering if it is something to do with my end of the connection, me getting booted for abusing ProFox g, or if everyone else is getting nothing also.. So, rather than sending , If you do not get this eMail please let me know kind of logic goofism, how about anyone seeing this eMail replying to my [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. Thanks! Gil --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems?
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 13:51, Gil Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not seen any ProFox eMail come across for a while. Just wondering if it is something to do with my end of the connection, me getting booted for abusing ProFox g, or if everyone else is getting nothing also.. So, rather than sending , If you do not get this eMail please let me know kind of logic goofism, how about anyone seeing this eMail replying to my [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. We're all busy celebrating Constitution Day, obviously. :-) http://www.law.uchicago.edu/constitution/index.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems?
Well, I done heard that lots of folks say they is growin tomatoes, but they iz really growin' that thar wacky tabbacky g... Thanks for the comm check! Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wolfe,Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet,or is the eMail service having problems? We are all out growing tomatoes... g v/r //SIGNED// Stephen S. Wolfe, YA2, DAF 6th MDG Data Services Manager 6th MDG Information System Security Officer Comm (813) 827-9994 DSN 651-9994 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Hale Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Com Subject: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems? Greetings all! I have not seen any ProFox eMail come across for a while. Just wondering if it is something to do with my end of the connection, me getting booted for abusing ProFox g, or if everyone else is getting nothing also.. So, rather than sending , If you do not get this eMail please let me know kind of logic goofism, how about anyone seeing this eMail replying to my [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. Thanks! Gil --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service having problems?
Whos got contipation ? Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Garrett Fitzgerald We're all busy celebrating Constitution Day, obviously. :-) http://www.law.uchicago.edu/constitution/index.html ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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But surely someone can find something to abuse MS ? On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:27 AM, Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whos got contipation ? Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Garrett Fitzgerald We're all busy celebrating Constitution Day, obviously. :-) http://www.law.uchicago.edu/constitution/index.html [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Sytze de Boer wrote: But surely someone can find something to abuse MS ? Is MS still relevant? Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Hmmm... Abuse M$? Why bother? They get enough from inside already. Could you imagine being a manager anywhere in the Vista Chain right now? Our numbers are up, why are folks complaining? The fools! Can't they see the Path Of Righteousness right in front of them? Yes, I can, in fact I see two paths. Mac and Linux g... Did y'all catch the article in this (next) month's PC World, where one writer says it may be a good time for folks (small businesses) to move to Linux? Very well done. Unfortunately it would not work with auto dealership operations. But I have at least been moving home users into Ubuntu Linux, mostly to stop the incoming calls for help cleaning up a trashed PC (call for help = I do it as another favor). It is amazing, I have not gotten many calls at all asking for any help with fouled PCs since I cut over about 14 home user PCs. I do ask once in a while if they are running okay, and thus far not one person has asked to go back to Windows. Linux is doing the job, and that is fine with them. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sytze de Boer Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Is it really this quiet,or is the eMail service having problems? But surely someone can find something to abuse MS ? On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:27 AM, Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whos got contipation ? Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Garrett Fitzgerald We're all busy celebrating Constitution Day, obviously. :-) http://www.law.uchicago.edu/constitution/index.html [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Is MS still relevant? Unfortunately, yes. But on a brighter note, a little less so than before due to FireFox, Mac and Linux eating (nibbling) out of its trough. The other day I was chatting with an associate who has been a True Blue M$ fan for years. He makes a great living setting up, configuring, upgrading, etc., anything and everything M$. He made the mistake of asking me how I like MS Server 2008. I don't really know how I like it. I am not running it, and don't plan to., I replied. I was expecting him to get all over me, but instead he asked what I am doing for Servers. I told him I still have a few Server 2003 machines, but have cut to Linux, first Suse Server, then Ubuntu Server. He was intrigued as to why I made that move, so I told him it was not so much the money (MSDN ISV takes a major part of the sting out there), but more the lack of solution value when I look at Ubuntu Linux that prevents me from staying with M$ Server OS solutions. Surprisingly he told me the M$ license fees to himself and his clients are getting ridiculously high, and has actually been looking to look at Linux for File, Web, eMail Server purposes for himself and clients. He has been losing bids to other folks who are using Linux for Servers (mostly, not so much desktops yet). He is looking at doing the same thing just to get his pricing competitive by knocking out M$ Server OS expenses. In the past he could have avoided making this move, but now things are tight and it is coming down to business survival. I did an Info Dump on him (poor bastard), and for once I actually blazed a trail for him to follow me (Linux), instead of the other way around. He may only support about 80 small businesses, but if he is looking for alternative solutions to reduce pricing for client projects, then others are/will also. A lot of little nibbles can quickly lead to Death By 1,000 Cuts g... Not that I want to see M$ crash and burn (it does that by itself very nicely already g), but I think it is time for M$ to get set back a few notches with their Greed Grab (yeah, I am still bitter re: the Terminal Server CAL duplicate license fees). BTW, have I told y'all how much I like my Ubuntu Linux Sever lately? heh-heh... Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul McNett Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Is it really this quiet, or is the eMail service havingproblems? Sytze de Boer wrote: But surely someone can find something to abuse MS ? Is MS still relevant? Paul [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Gil If you think you are being ignored you could have a look at: http://www.mail-archive.com/profox@leafe.com/ Maybe we should ask Ed to put this on the Signature! Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 http://www.calcpay.co.uk HMRC Accredited UK payroll program Gil Hale wrote: Greetings all! I have not seen any ProFox eMail come across for a while. Just wondering if it is something to do with my end of the connection, me getting booted for abusing ProFox g, or if everyone else is getting nothing also.. So, rather than sending , If you do not get this eMail please let me know kind of logic goofism, how about anyone seeing this eMail replying to my [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. Thanks! Gil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Gil Hale wrote: Did y'all catch the article in this (next) month's PC World, where one writer says it may be a good time for folks (small businesses) to move to Linux? Very well done. Unfortunately it would not work with auto dealership operations. What is special about auto dealers that Linux wouldn't work for them? What ties them to Windows? Why not break that tie? Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Funny you mentioned this. I have been trying to figure out how to completely make the move and was reading an article about Quickbooks. There are several applications that are preventing a 100% move for me: Quickbooks: http://www.linux.com/feature/41026 Delorme TOPO USA 7.0 Citrix access to corporate networks using Internet Explorer Visual FoxPro I have found an alternative to most everything else. Not bad, huh? Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Phoenix Python User Group - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul McNett wrote: Gil Hale wrote: Did y'all catch the article in this (next) month's PC World, where one writer says it may be a good time for folks (small businesses) to move to Linux? Very well done. Unfortunately it would not work with auto dealership operations. What is special about auto dealers that Linux wouldn't work for them? What ties them to Windows? Why not break that tie? Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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Gil, I hadn't posted much in a while because the threads were so unappealing to me. Too much trolling. I needed a break from it. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog http://www.mcstyles.com/ Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are right. -- Henry Ford ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
