Re: Fwd: 2017 News from Hentzenwerke Publishing!

[Thierry Nivelet]

ordered!

Thierry Nivelet
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Le 04/08/2017 à 11:55, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com a écrit :

On 2017-08-04 05:21, Michael J. Babcock wrote:

Got this from HWP (Whil) today. If you didn't get one, you can probably
still use that same link (not sure if that cryptic string is specific to
me or not?) to add yourself to his mailing list.

The only VFP10 I've heard is some modified Chinese version, which I'm
not sure I'd ever use. Still, VFP9SP2, as old as it is, still kicks ass!





Here's the Amazon link to the "VFP 10: Hard to Kill" book: 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1930919131/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8=hentzenwerkepubl=1789=9325=as2=1930919131=96d0a966d2a7d0493ee0482962e81830


or http://preview.tinyurl.com/vfp10-hard-to-kill

Written by Whil, and edited by our beloved Ted Roche I see!  :-)


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Re: Fwd: 2017 News from Hentzenwerke Publishing!

[Thierry Nivelet]

Hi Ted,

IMO, a balanced TOC for a VFP10 book would be (pseudo writing):

1. Keeping your VFP app up and performing for decades without rewrite
2. Expanding your VFP app far beyond 'traditional' desktop
3. Recruiting developers for your VFP app

Point 3 is in every manager's head; it has to be addressed and we 
collectively need to find a way to keep some young people interested in 
VFP; the only efficient way I know is to deliver an exciting message, 
not to tell them "you're entering into a carrier dead-end where you'll 
have to maintain boring legacy code, please enjoy"


I wish I could decently write in English, and doubt anyone would be 
interested in a book written in French, even you as an Editor! ;)


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Le 08/08/2017 à 21:21, Ted Roche a écrit :

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Thierry Nivelet  wrote:

Sounds kinda defensive, like "how you can survive with VFP while outdated
and clumsy"

I think you're looking through the wrong end of the telescope. Whil's
book is dealing with supporting existing clients, inheriting the apps
of the others, and pointers on maintaining applications into their
second and third decades. These are important skills, too.


I'd prefer a book mostly showing the exciting things one can do with VFP,
and expanding 'legacy' VFP applications.

Well, let me know how your book writing goes. If you are looking for
an editor, keep me in mind!


Third party software take a large part of these exciting opportunities.

Absolutely! My most successful applications use a lot of third party
software, from web serving to office automation to graphics and GIS! I
have always been a big supporter of the philosophy of integrating many
tools to make the most powerful application.






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Re: Fwd: 2017 News from Hentzenwerke Publishing!

[Ted Roche]

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Thierry Nivelet  wrote:
> Sounds kinda defensive, like "how you can survive with VFP while outdated
> and clumsy"

I think you're looking through the wrong end of the telescope. Whil's
book is dealing with supporting existing clients, inheriting the apps
of the others, and pointers on maintaining applications into their
second and third decades. These are important skills, too.

> I'd prefer a book mostly showing the exciting things one can do with VFP,
> and expanding 'legacy' VFP applications.

Well, let me know how your book writing goes. If you are looking for
an editor, keep me in mind!

> Third party software take a large part of these exciting opportunities.

Absolutely! My most successful applications use a lot of third party
software, from web serving to office automation to graphics and GIS! I
have always been a big supporter of the philosophy of integrating many
tools to make the most powerful application.


-- 
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RE: Fwd: 2017 News from Hentzenwerke Publishing!

[Kurt Wendt]

I love that book cover - with the Casket in the Car. It sure doesn't have a 
furry dead Fox in there yet!!!

Regards,
Kurt Wendt
Senior Systems Analyst 


Tel. +1-212-747-9100


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On 2017-08-04 05:21, Michael J. Babcock wrote:
> Got this from HWP (Whil) today. If you didn't get one, you can 
> probably still use that same link (not sure if that cryptic string is 
> specific to me or not?) to add yourself to his mailing list.
> 
> The only VFP10 I've heard is some modified Chinese version, which I'm 
> not sure I'd ever use. Still, VFP9SP2, as old as it is, still kicks 
> ass!




Here's the Amazon link to the "VFP 10: Hard to Kill" book:  
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1930919131/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8=hentzenwerkepubl=1789=9325=as2=1930919131=96d0a966d2a7d0493ee0482962e81830

or http://preview.tinyurl.com/vfp10-hard-to-kill

Written by Whil, and edited by our beloved Ted Roche I see!  :-)

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Re: Fwd: 2017 News from Hentzenwerke Publishing!

[Thierry Nivelet]

Sounds kinda defensive, like "how you can survive with VFP while 
outdated and clumsy"


I'd prefer a book mostly showing the exciting things one can do with 
VFP, and expanding 'legacy' VFP applications.


Third party software take a large part of these exciting opportunities.

Thierry Nivelet
FoxInCloud
Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud
http://foxincloud.com/

Le 08/08/2017 à 19:09, Ted Roche a écrit :

expanded version of his whitepapers on the business case for
FoxPro, on inheriting an application, and on business continuity and
disaster recovery.



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Re: Fwd: 2017 News from Hentzenwerke Publishing!

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On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 7:22 PM,
 wrote:

> Glad to see Ted Roche got a VFP Lifetime Achievement Award back in 2013.
> For some reason, I thought he hadn't yet received it (but definitely should
> have!!!).

Thanks, Mike.

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Re: Fwd: 2017 News from Hentzenwerke Publishing!

[Ted Roche]

Thierry:

I have no doubt FoxInCloud is a member of the Fox world, and a welcome one!

Whil's book, however , doesn't talk about 3rd party software at all. It's
an updated and expanded version of his whitepapers on the business case for
FoxPro, on inheriting an application, and on business continuity and
disaster recovery.

On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Thierry Nivelet 
wrote:

> Thanks Richard
>
> That's why I think FoxInCloud may be a legitimate candidate to membership
> in the 'Fox world'.


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Re: Fwd: 2017 News from Hentzenwerke Publishing!

[mbsoftwaresolutions]

My book arrived yesterday via Amazon!  Read the first few pages so far.  
Glad to see Ted Roche got a VFP Lifetime Achievement Award back in 2013. 
 For some reason, I thought he hadn't yet received it (but definitely 
should have!!!).




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Re: Fwd: 2017 News from Hentzenwerke Publishing!

[Thierry Nivelet]

Thanks Richard

Ted: coverage is pretty clear "despite the discontinuation of support 
from MSFT, there is a rich VFP ecosystem very much alive and well. This 
book provides the most comprehensive examination of the Fox world."


That's why I think FoxInCloud may be a legitimate candidate to 
membership in the 'Fox world'.


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Le 04/08/2017 à 18:04, Richard Kaye a écrit :

http://www.hentzenwerke.com/catalog/htk.htm



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On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Thierry Nivelet
<tnive...@foxincloud.com> wrote:

How many pages do you plan?

Thierry Nivelet
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http://foxincloud.com/


Thierry: Amazon lists it at 132 pages, but the publisher will have
more details than I. I just worked with electronic documents. The
ebook doesn't weigh much at all. Also, look forward to more details
from the author and/or publisher about what the book is about, and
what it is *NOT*. It's not a parody, but it is not a tragedy, either.


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Re: Fwd: 2017 News from Hentzenwerke Publishing!

[AndyHC]

+1
On 04-Aug-17 10:55 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:

Yes,
Nice one Ted!

Dave

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On 2017-08-04 05:21, Michael J. Babcock wrote:

Got this from HWP (Whil) today. If you didn't get one, you can
probably still use that same link (not sure if that cryptic string is
specific to me or not?) to add yourself to his mailing list.

The only VFP10 I've heard is some modified Chinese version, which I'm
not sure I'd ever use. Still, VFP9SP2, as old as it is, still kicks
ass!




Here's the Amazon link to the "VFP 10: Hard to Kill" book:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1930919131/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8=hentzenwerkepubl=1789=9325=as2=1930919131=96d0a966d2a7d0493ee0482962e81830

or http://preview.tinyurl.com/vfp10-hard-to-kill

Written by Whil, and edited by our beloved Ted Roche I see!  :-)


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RE: Fwd: 2017 News from Hentzenwerke Publishing!

[Richard Kaye]

http://www.hentzenwerke.com/catalog/htk.htm

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On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Thierry Nivelet
<tnive...@foxincloud.com> wrote:
> How many pages do you plan?
>
> Thierry Nivelet
> FoxInCloud
> Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud
> http://foxincloud.com/
>

Thierry: Amazon lists it at 132 pages, but the publisher will have
more details than I. I just worked with electronic documents. The
ebook doesn't weigh much at all. Also, look forward to more details
from the author and/or publisher about what the book is about, and
what it is *NOT*. It's not a parody, but it is not a tragedy, either.

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Re: Fwd: 2017 News from Hentzenwerke Publishing!

[Ted Roche]

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Thierry Nivelet
 wrote:
> How many pages do you plan?
>
> Thierry Nivelet
> FoxInCloud
> Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud
> http://foxincloud.com/
>

Thierry: Amazon lists it at 132 pages, but the publisher will have
more details than I. I just worked with electronic documents. The
ebook doesn't weigh much at all. Also, look forward to more details
from the author and/or publisher about what the book is about, and
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Re: Fwd: 2017 News from Hentzenwerke Publishing!

[Thierry Nivelet]

How many pages do you plan?

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Le 04/08/2017 à 13:01, Ted Roche a écrit :

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 5:55 AM, Dave Crozier  wrote:

Yes,
Nice one Ted!


Thanks.




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Re: Fwd: 2017 News from Hentzenwerke Publishing!

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On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 5:55 AM, Dave Crozier  wrote:
> Yes,
> Nice one Ted!
>

Thanks.

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RE: Fwd: 2017 News from Hentzenwerke Publishing!

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Yes,
Nice one Ted!

Dave

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On 2017-08-04 05:21, Michael J. Babcock wrote:
> Got this from HWP (Whil) today. If you didn't get one, you can 
> probably still use that same link (not sure if that cryptic string is 
> specific to me or not?) to add yourself to his mailing list.
> 
> The only VFP10 I've heard is some modified Chinese version, which I'm 
> not sure I'd ever use. Still, VFP9SP2, as old as it is, still kicks 
> ass!




Here's the Amazon link to the "VFP 10: Hard to Kill" book:  
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1930919131/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8=hentzenwerkepubl=1789=9325=as2=1930919131=96d0a966d2a7d0493ee0482962e81830

or http://preview.tinyurl.com/vfp10-hard-to-kill

Written by Whil, and edited by our beloved Ted Roche I see!  :-)

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Re: Fwd: 2017 News from Hentzenwerke Publishing!

[mbsoftwaresolutions]

On 2017-08-04 05:21, Michael J. Babcock wrote:

Got this from HWP (Whil) today. If you didn't get one, you can probably
still use that same link (not sure if that cryptic string is specific 
to

me or not?) to add yourself to his mailing list.

The only VFP10 I've heard is some modified Chinese version, which I'm
not sure I'd ever use. Still, VFP9SP2, as old as it is, still kicks 
ass!





Here's the Amazon link to the "VFP 10: Hard to Kill" book:  
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1930919131/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8=hentzenwerkepubl=1789=9325=as2=1930919131=96d0a966d2a7d0493ee0482962e81830


or http://preview.tinyurl.com/vfp10-hard-to-kill

Written by Whil, and edited by our beloved Ted Roche I see!  :-)

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