RE: So, about this VFPA thing...
I may not be remembering the actual version numbers for each SP. Go with what
your eyes show you.
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Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 3:46 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
It says SP2 right in the name?!?!?
I'll check VFP*.DLL across the machine to see what I find.
Thanks, Richard!
--Mike
On 1/27/2020 3:41 PM, Richard Kaye wrote:
> I think that's SP1?
>
> You probably have the VFP DLLs from multiple versions scattered about your
> system. In particular, check the common files location buried under program
> files.
>
> --
>
> rk
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech On Behalf Of MB
> Software Solutions, LLC
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 3:39 PM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
>
> This is strange. I downloaded this and ran it but VFP still says .2412. ???
> https://github.com/VFPX/VFPRuntimeInstallers/blob/master/VFP9SP2RT.exe
>
>
> On 1/27/2020 3:32 PM, Richard Kaye wrote:
>> Yes, you have to have the fully patched SP2 hotfix 3 version already
>> installed on your system.
>>
>> Check VFPX on Github for the hotfix installer. I'm pretty sure it got
>> migrated there. If you still have problems, contact me off-list and I can
>> send to you.
>>
>> --
>>
>> rk
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ProfoxTech On Behalf Of MB
>> Software Solutions, LLC
>> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 3:20 PM
>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>> Subject: Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
>>
>> So I got a new Win10 Pro laptop at the Corporate gig and installed
>> VFP9 on it. It was NOT patched...so the version is Visual FoxPro
>> 09.00..2412 for Windows.
>>
>> I downloaded the VFPA 32 bit from (a) below and when I go to run it,
>> it fails with this error: https://www.screencast.com/t/XVR3hDpLXOB
>>
>> I'm guessing that's because I've not patched the default installation to
>> 9.0.0.7423?
>>
>> Wanted to ask while I search for the VFP9SP2HotFix 3 installer. (I
>> had tried one from wOOdy I thought but got a resource error earlier
>> today...will try again now since I've uninstalled and reinstalled.)
>>
>> tia,
>> --Mike
>>
>>
>> On 11/23/2019 6:39 AM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:
>>> Just to be clear: There are TWO versions of VFPA ("A" like the Hex
>>> notation of "10")
>>>
>>> a) the patched version of your existing VFP9 installation. This
>>> implies that it's stil a 23Bit version.
>>> This is the version you most probably want to use immediately.
>>> Download the 32Bit on the bottom of:
>>> http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp
>>> It needs a current VFP9 installation with SP2, and then creates a
>>> new directory with a patched new VFP9.exe and also copies all of the
>>> other files of your VFP9 source directory. Thus, after installation
>>> you just rename the old VFP9 directory to something different, and
>>> rename the new directory to the original name, and all your
>>> Registrykeys and Links will work without interruption.
>>>
>>> b) a new VFP10 err... VFPA compiler for 64 bit executables.
>>> Stil with some compatibility problems, and I'm not sure if I would
>>> ever need it, but:
>>> http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_gotovfpa64.asp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>> Von: ProFox Im Auftrag von Vince Teachout
>>> Gesendet: Samstag, 23. November 2019 04:43
>>> An: ProFox Email List
>>> Betreff: So, about this VFPA thing...
>>>
>>> Apparently, I've been under a rock, and there's a magically enhanced
>>> VFP9 SP2 that fixes some bugs, can run concurrently with vfp9, and
>>> supports
>>> 64 bits.
>>>
>>> Before I download something, am I on the right site:
>>> http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp ?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
It says SP2 right in the name?!?!?
I'll check VFP*.DLL across the machine to see what I find.
Thanks, Richard!
--Mike
On 1/27/2020 3:41 PM, Richard Kaye wrote:
I think that's SP1?
You probably have the VFP DLLs from multiple versions scattered about your
system. In particular, check the common files location buried under program
files.
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From: ProfoxTech On Behalf Of MB Software
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Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 3:39 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
This is strange. I downloaded this and ran it but VFP still says .2412. ???
https://github.com/VFPX/VFPRuntimeInstallers/blob/master/VFP9SP2RT.exe
On 1/27/2020 3:32 PM, Richard Kaye wrote:
Yes, you have to have the fully patched SP2 hotfix 3 version already installed
on your system.
Check VFPX on Github for the hotfix installer. I'm pretty sure it got migrated
there. If you still have problems, contact me off-list and I can send to you.
--
rk
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From: ProfoxTech On Behalf Of MB Software
Solutions, LLC
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 3:20 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
So I got a new Win10 Pro laptop at the Corporate gig and installed VFP9 on it.
It was NOT patched...so the version is Visual FoxPro
09.00..2412 for Windows.
I downloaded the VFPA 32 bit from (a) below and when I go to run it, it fails
with this error: https://www.screencast.com/t/XVR3hDpLXOB
I'm guessing that's because I've not patched the default installation to
9.0.0.7423?
Wanted to ask while I search for the VFP9SP2HotFix 3 installer. (I had tried
one from wOOdy I thought but got a resource error earlier today...will try
again now since I've uninstalled and reinstalled.)
tia,
--Mike
On 11/23/2019 6:39 AM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:
Just to be clear: There are TWO versions of VFPA ("A" like the Hex
notation of "10")
a) the patched version of your existing VFP9 installation. This
implies that it's stil a 23Bit version.
This is the version you most probably want to use immediately.
Download the 32Bit on the bottom of:
http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp
It needs a current VFP9 installation with SP2, and then creates a new
directory with a patched new VFP9.exe and also copies all of the other
files of your VFP9 source directory. Thus, after installation you
just rename the old VFP9 directory to something different, and rename
the new directory to the original name, and all your Registrykeys and
Links will work without interruption.
b) a new VFP10 err... VFPA compiler for 64 bit executables.
Stil with some compatibility problems, and I'm not sure if I would
ever need it, but:
http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_gotovfpa64.asp
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: ProFox Im Auftrag von Vince Teachout
Gesendet: Samstag, 23. November 2019 04:43
An: ProFox Email List
Betreff: So, about this VFPA thing...
Apparently, I've been under a rock, and there's a magically enhanced
VFP9 SP2 that fixes some bugs, can run concurrently with vfp9, and
supports
64 bits.
Before I download something, am I on the right site:
http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp ?
Thanks!
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RE: So, about this VFPA thing...
I think that's SP1?
You probably have the VFP DLLs from multiple versions scattered about your
system. In particular, check the common files location buried under program
files.
--
rk
-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech On Behalf Of MB Software
Solutions, LLC
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 3:39 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
This is strange. I downloaded this and ran it but VFP still says .2412. ???
https://github.com/VFPX/VFPRuntimeInstallers/blob/master/VFP9SP2RT.exe
On 1/27/2020 3:32 PM, Richard Kaye wrote:
> Yes, you have to have the fully patched SP2 hotfix 3 version already
> installed on your system.
>
> Check VFPX on Github for the hotfix installer. I'm pretty sure it got
> migrated there. If you still have problems, contact me off-list and I can
> send to you.
>
> --
>
> rk
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech On Behalf Of MB Software
> Solutions, LLC
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 3:20 PM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
>
> So I got a new Win10 Pro laptop at the Corporate gig and installed VFP9 on
> it. It was NOT patched...so the version is Visual FoxPro
> 09.00..2412 for Windows.
>
> I downloaded the VFPA 32 bit from (a) below and when I go to run it, it fails
> with this error: https://www.screencast.com/t/XVR3hDpLXOB
>
> I'm guessing that's because I've not patched the default installation to
> 9.0.0.7423?
>
> Wanted to ask while I search for the VFP9SP2HotFix 3 installer. (I had tried
> one from wOOdy I thought but got a resource error earlier today...will try
> again now since I've uninstalled and reinstalled.)
>
> tia,
> --Mike
>
>
> On 11/23/2019 6:39 AM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:
>> Just to be clear: There are TWO versions of VFPA ("A" like the Hex
>> notation of "10")
>>
>> a) the patched version of your existing VFP9 installation. This
>> implies that it's stil a 23Bit version.
>> This is the version you most probably want to use immediately.
>> Download the 32Bit on the bottom of:
>> http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp
>> It needs a current VFP9 installation with SP2, and then creates a new
>> directory with a patched new VFP9.exe and also copies all of the other
>> files of your VFP9 source directory. Thus, after installation you
>> just rename the old VFP9 directory to something different, and rename
>> the new directory to the original name, and all your Registrykeys and
>> Links will work without interruption.
>>
>> b) a new VFP10 err... VFPA compiler for 64 bit executables.
>> Stil with some compatibility problems, and I'm not sure if I would
>> ever need it, but:
>> http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_gotovfpa64.asp
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: ProFox Im Auftrag von Vince Teachout
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 23. November 2019 04:43
>> An: ProFox Email List
>> Betreff: So, about this VFPA thing...
>>
>> Apparently, I've been under a rock, and there's a magically enhanced
>> VFP9 SP2 that fixes some bugs, can run concurrently with vfp9, and
>> supports
>> 64 bits.
>>
>> Before I download something, am I on the right site:
>> http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp ?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
This is strange. I downloaded this and ran it but VFP still says
.2412. ???
https://github.com/VFPX/VFPRuntimeInstallers/blob/master/VFP9SP2RT.exe
On 1/27/2020 3:32 PM, Richard Kaye wrote:
Yes, you have to have the fully patched SP2 hotfix 3 version already installed
on your system.
Check VFPX on Github for the hotfix installer. I'm pretty sure it got migrated
there. If you still have problems, contact me off-list and I can send to you.
--
rk
-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech On Behalf Of MB Software
Solutions, LLC
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 3:20 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
So I got a new Win10 Pro laptop at the Corporate gig and installed VFP9 on it.
It was NOT patched...so the version is Visual FoxPro
09.00..2412 for Windows.
I downloaded the VFPA 32 bit from (a) below and when I go to run it, it fails
with this error: https://www.screencast.com/t/XVR3hDpLXOB
I'm guessing that's because I've not patched the default installation to
9.0.0.7423?
Wanted to ask while I search for the VFP9SP2HotFix 3 installer. (I had tried
one from wOOdy I thought but got a resource error earlier today...will try
again now since I've uninstalled and reinstalled.)
tia,
--Mike
On 11/23/2019 6:39 AM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:
Just to be clear: There are TWO versions of VFPA ("A" like the Hex
notation of "10")
a) the patched version of your existing VFP9 installation. This
implies that it's stil a 23Bit version.
This is the version you most probably want to use immediately.
Download the 32Bit on the bottom of:
http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp
It needs a current VFP9 installation with SP2, and then creates a new
directory with a patched new VFP9.exe and also copies all of the other
files of your VFP9 source directory. Thus, after installation you
just rename the old VFP9 directory to something different, and rename
the new directory to the original name, and all your Registrykeys and
Links will work without interruption.
b) a new VFP10 err... VFPA compiler for 64 bit executables.
Stil with some compatibility problems, and I'm not sure if I would
ever need it, but:
http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_gotovfpa64.asp
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: ProFox Im Auftrag von Vince Teachout
Gesendet: Samstag, 23. November 2019 04:43
An: ProFox Email List
Betreff: So, about this VFPA thing...
Apparently, I've been under a rock, and there's a magically enhanced
VFP9 SP2 that fixes some bugs, can run concurrently with vfp9, and
supports
64 bits.
Before I download something, am I on the right site:
http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp ?
Thanks!
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RE: So, about this VFPA thing...
Yes, you have to have the fully patched SP2 hotfix 3 version already installed
on your system.
Check VFPX on Github for the hotfix installer. I'm pretty sure it got migrated
there. If you still have problems, contact me off-list and I can send to you.
--
rk
-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech On Behalf Of MB Software
Solutions, LLC
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 3:20 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
So I got a new Win10 Pro laptop at the Corporate gig and installed VFP9 on it.
It was NOT patched...so the version is Visual FoxPro
09.00..2412 for Windows.
I downloaded the VFPA 32 bit from (a) below and when I go to run it, it fails
with this error: https://www.screencast.com/t/XVR3hDpLXOB
I'm guessing that's because I've not patched the default installation to
9.0.0.7423?
Wanted to ask while I search for the VFP9SP2HotFix 3 installer. (I had tried
one from wOOdy I thought but got a resource error earlier today...will try
again now since I've uninstalled and reinstalled.)
tia,
--Mike
On 11/23/2019 6:39 AM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:
> Just to be clear: There are TWO versions of VFPA ("A" like the Hex
> notation of "10")
>
> a) the patched version of your existing VFP9 installation. This
> implies that it's stil a 23Bit version.
> This is the version you most probably want to use immediately.
> Download the 32Bit on the bottom of:
> http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp
> It needs a current VFP9 installation with SP2, and then creates a new
> directory with a patched new VFP9.exe and also copies all of the other
> files of your VFP9 source directory. Thus, after installation you
> just rename the old VFP9 directory to something different, and rename
> the new directory to the original name, and all your Registrykeys and
> Links will work without interruption.
>
> b) a new VFP10 err... VFPA compiler for 64 bit executables.
> Stil with some compatibility problems, and I'm not sure if I would
> ever need it, but:
> http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_gotovfpa64.asp
>
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: ProFox Im Auftrag von Vince Teachout
> Gesendet: Samstag, 23. November 2019 04:43
> An: ProFox Email List
> Betreff: So, about this VFPA thing...
>
> Apparently, I've been under a rock, and there's a magically enhanced
> VFP9 SP2 that fixes some bugs, can run concurrently with vfp9, and
> supports
> 64 bits.
>
> Before I download something, am I on the right site:
> http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp ?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
So I got a new Win10 Pro laptop at the Corporate gig and installed VFP9
on it. It was NOT patched...so the version is Visual FoxPro
09.00..2412 for Windows.
I downloaded the VFPA 32 bit from (a) below and when I go to run it, it
fails with this error: https://www.screencast.com/t/XVR3hDpLXOB
I'm guessing that's because I've not patched the default installation to
9.0.0.7423?
Wanted to ask while I search for the VFP9SP2HotFix 3 installer. (I had
tried one from wOOdy I thought but got a resource error earlier
today...will try again now since I've uninstalled and reinstalled.)
tia,
--Mike
On 11/23/2019 6:39 AM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:
Just to be clear: There are TWO versions of VFPA ("A" like the Hex notation
of "10")
a) the patched version of your existing VFP9 installation. This implies that
it's stil a 23Bit version.
This is the version you most probably want to use immediately.
Download the 32Bit on the bottom of:
http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp
It needs a current VFP9 installation with SP2, and then creates a new
directory with a patched new VFP9.exe and also copies all of the other files
of your VFP9 source directory. Thus, after installation you just rename the
old VFP9 directory to something different, and rename the new directory to
the original name, and all your Registrykeys and Links will work without
interruption.
b) a new VFP10 err... VFPA compiler for 64 bit executables.
Stil with some compatibility problems, and I'm not sure if I would ever need
it, but:
http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_gotovfpa64.asp
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: ProFox Im Auftrag von Vince Teachout
Gesendet: Samstag, 23. November 2019 04:43
An: ProFox Email List
Betreff: So, about this VFPA thing...
Apparently, I've been under a rock, and there's a magically enhanced
VFP9 SP2 that fixes some bugs, can run concurrently with vfp9, and supports
64 bits.
Before I download something, am I on the right site:
http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp ?
Thanks!
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On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 1:42 PM Gene Wirchenko wrote: > Newbie! I started with dBASE II version 2.02 which was > apparently the very first version. > Amateurs. I debugging WANG's Key File Access Method (branded ISAM) before Intel had invented the 8008. And that was my fourth computer system. We can play this game all day. I have coded with "ohs" https://dilbert.com/strip/1992-09-08 -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/cacw6n4syshmgle1zsqgfe_voxm5mt-t1e3u3-xjpr9baznx...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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At 08:07 2019-11-26, Koen Piller wrote: OK alright. My first impression on Alan's remark was a negative, meaning negative in the sense of the product, like this product is a hack, it is no good to use. Now meanwhile I have looked around and found on Wiki an explication of 'hack' :* Hacking is finding applications that are not intended by the creator of the resource, especially with regard to computers. Complexity does not play a role here, on the contrary, easy and fast alternative solutions are preferred. The use of a clothes peg to prevent a trouser leg from coming between a bicycle chain is basically a hack. "Normal" inventions and improvements are therefore not hacks, as long as they are used for what they are made for.* This makes me think Alan is not correct and I conclude VFPA is an improvement. Besides, the history of Alan's use: since 1991, I am proud to tell you I was there before 1990, started with dBaseII jumped from dBaseIV to FoxPro for DOS into now VFP9SP2. Newbie! I started with dBASE II version 2.02 which was apparently the very first version. If it is modification of a binary, it is a hack. It might be a very good hack because of improvements it makes, but it is still a hack. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/ ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
Agreed 1000% that using local data for reporting is fastest in VFP apps, for sure. I had written some code awhile (back but didn't yet finish) that would pull data locally if the checksum of the MariaDB table had changed, and then I'd using the max(timestamp) field on the local VFP table to grab all records updated since then on the MariaDB table (using its timestamp field too, which was automatically updated as data changed). One day I'll get back to it...when no other payable work to do. ;-) On 11/27/2019 12:12 PM, Charlie Coleman wrote: For me, I've done kind of the opposite. In other words, I'll connect to a SQL DB, Postgres, Oracle, whatever, download the whole database to VFP, read info from the information_schema stuff, recreate indexes, etc. Then work with the data in the local VFP DB for analysis and so forth. So it's not really the complete opposite because the real prod database is not 'moved' to VFP. It is just there for analysis, tests, and so on. I found the speed and flexibility the VFP DB gives me trumps what I get from the DB Servers. Of course that is a generalization and a major factor here is the 'locality' of access. Also, there are the cases where I am not the DBA of the prod database which makes working with VFP an even better option (I can index, restructure, freely based on what I'm trying to figure out). And I fully understand the reasons behind the individual "file size" limitations of DBFs, DBCs, etc. It really was not disk space or stuff like that, it was how many bytes to use for "addressing" - and back at the time of FoxBase, etc, I think the 32bit integer was about the largest available. I have wondered though if there are ways to use the 'extra bytes' in the DBF header to expand the address space. The idea being that older tools would only be able to access the "first" 2GB of data, but newer tools could be written to look at the other bytes and switch to 64bit numbers to go further. Anyway, no biggie. It is simple enough to split data into multiple tables based on some value in the data. And then stored procedures or other code easily "calculates" which table(s) to pull based on a query using that value. And as a quick side note about the 'temporary cursor' thing that I used instead of MS's approach to table/record buffering... Once I started using it, built a few code classes around it, I never wanted to use the standard buffering options again. And I never ran into the odd 'table-header-lock' stuff or whatever it was that folks sometimes hit with MS's buffering options. The thing I liked best was I got very fine-grained control of the logic of "buffering" and how to resolve conflicts. I had a truly separate "data set" that i could analyze 6 ways to Sunday against the original data, even compare who was locking what, "pause" updates with specific messages, and son on. Was that needed for every project - nope. But I did need it a couple times. Well, 'need' may be an overstatement - I'll just say what the client wanted was not feasible with the standard buffering approaches as far as I could figure out. -Charlie On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 9:17 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC < mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote: On 11/27/2019 3:47 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: On Tue, 26 Nov 2019, at 6:51 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote: Charlie, To respond to your wish for larger DBF capacities. There's also Advantage Database Server (now owned by SAP) which lets you work with DBF\CDX\FPT over 4GB. Ever since I switched to MySQL (and later MariaDB) back in 2004, I've never wanted to go back to DBFs for major app tables. Never. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/bc749fc0-5b6d-6497-a753-e6490f1b3...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
For me, I've done kind of the opposite. In other words, I'll connect to a SQL DB, Postgres, Oracle, whatever, download the whole database to VFP, read info from the information_schema stuff, recreate indexes, etc. Then work with the data in the local VFP DB for analysis and so forth. So it's not really the complete opposite because the real prod database is not 'moved' to VFP. It is just there for analysis, tests, and so on. I found the speed and flexibility the VFP DB gives me trumps what I get from the DB Servers. Of course that is a generalization and a major factor here is the 'locality' of access. Also, there are the cases where I am not the DBA of the prod database which makes working with VFP an even better option (I can index, restructure, freely based on what I'm trying to figure out). And I fully understand the reasons behind the individual "file size" limitations of DBFs, DBCs, etc. It really was not disk space or stuff like that, it was how many bytes to use for "addressing" - and back at the time of FoxBase, etc, I think the 32bit integer was about the largest available. I have wondered though if there are ways to use the 'extra bytes' in the DBF header to expand the address space. The idea being that older tools would only be able to access the "first" 2GB of data, but newer tools could be written to look at the other bytes and switch to 64bit numbers to go further. Anyway, no biggie. It is simple enough to split data into multiple tables based on some value in the data. And then stored procedures or other code easily "calculates" which table(s) to pull based on a query using that value. And as a quick side note about the 'temporary cursor' thing that I used instead of MS's approach to table/record buffering... Once I started using it, built a few code classes around it, I never wanted to use the standard buffering options again. And I never ran into the odd 'table-header-lock' stuff or whatever it was that folks sometimes hit with MS's buffering options. The thing I liked best was I got very fine-grained control of the logic of "buffering" and how to resolve conflicts. I had a truly separate "data set" that i could analyze 6 ways to Sunday against the original data, even compare who was locking what, "pause" updates with specific messages, and son on. Was that needed for every project - nope. But I did need it a couple times. Well, 'need' may be an overstatement - I'll just say what the client wanted was not feasible with the standard buffering approaches as far as I could figure out. -Charlie On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 9:17 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC < mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote: > On 11/27/2019 3:47 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Nov 2019, at 6:51 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote: > >> Charlie, > >> > >> To respond to your wish for larger DBF capacities. > > There's also Advantage Database Server (now owned by SAP) which lets you > work with DBF\CDX\FPT over 4GB. > > > Ever since I switched to MySQL (and later MariaDB) back in 2004, I've > never wanted to go back to DBFs for major app tables. Never. > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/cajgvlx0k2hxt1_t9+xp7kybgqk-genvxnp_tststpqgy0qa...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
> Ever since I switched to MySQL (and later MariaDB) back in 2004, I've > never wanted to go back to DBFs for major app tables. Never. > +1 -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/d4054e1d-c868-4157-8649-26d6c54a9...@www.fastmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
On 11/27/2019 3:47 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: On Tue, 26 Nov 2019, at 6:51 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote: Charlie, To respond to your wish for larger DBF capacities. There's also Advantage Database Server (now owned by SAP) which lets you work with DBF\CDX\FPT over 4GB. Ever since I switched to MySQL (and later MariaDB) back in 2004, I've never wanted to go back to DBFs for major app tables. Never. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/b5a08cf5-cd95-2c4f-1d9b-3a63ebadd...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
On Tue, 26 Nov 2019, at 6:51 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote: > Charlie, > > To respond to your wish for larger DBF capacities. There's also Advantage Database Server (now owned by SAP) which lets you work with DBF\CDX\FPT over 4GB. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/ba815369-3476-438d-983b-8e955da6b...@www.fastmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: So, about this VFPA thing...
Charlie, To respond to your wish for larger DBF capacities. Out at SWFox, the guys from X# explained the limitation isn't in VFP, it's in the header of the DBF. To change the header, means no VFP 9 tools will be able to use the table. (OLEDB and ODBC included) I like the idea, I haven't been given permission to work with VFPA at the office yet. Tracy -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Coleman Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 12:33 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: So, about this VFPA thing... Technically, what VPA is doing is actually not intended by its owner, MS. So I think the term hack does apply. If it were an open source tool, then I would say it would not be a hack. Like others have said, the work 'hack' draws out negative connotations (for us developers). But consider other terms we hear like "Life hacks" that offer creative ways of using products for unexpected things. But hack or not, all the points are valid. Someone modified binaries which we usually do not look at and which we probably would have a very hard time analyzing (since we do not have the source code of VFP itself). Also, folks have been using it without any reported incident of suspicious behavior. All it would take is one substantiated, repeatable report and that news would spread rapidly. And having worked for the gov, I have to add the usual paranoia regarding foreign entities creating something I would build on - especially if that something deals with "data". But again, here, this is not a foreign government providing something, it is an individual. Could his government storm his house, and take over his work? Sure, it's China - it's gov does that kind of thing - most communist nations do (our gov might do it in the future if we don't pay attention). But again, such things would probably get out quickly. Maybe he should work out a fail-safe, dead-man trigger or something so that we would know if such an event transpired. Anyway, it is definitely interesting enough that I plan on working with it. I would love larger DBF capacities too, but I will not quibble. The guy is doing some amazing stuff. I hope he reaps big rewards from it somehow. -Charlie On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 11:07 AM Koen Piller wrote: > OK alright. My first impression on Alan's remark was a negative, meaning > negative in the sense of the product, like this product is a hack, it is no > good to use. Now meanwhile I have looked around and found on Wiki an > explication of 'hack' :* Hacking is finding applications that are not > intended by the creator of the resource, especially with regard to > computers. Complexity does not play a role here, on the contrary, easy and > fast alternative solutions are preferred. The use of a clothes peg to > prevent a trouser leg from coming between a bicycle chain is basically a > hack. "Normal" inventions and improvements are therefore not hacks, as long > as they are used for what they are made for.* > This makes me think Alan is not correct and I conclude VFPA is an > improvement. > Besides, the history of Alan's use: since 1991, I am proud to tell you I > was there before 1990, started with dBaseII jumped from dBaseIV to FoxPro > for DOS into now VFP9SP2. > Regards, > Koen > > > > Op di 26 nov. 2019 om 16:32 schreef MB Software Solutions, LLC < > mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com>: > > > On 11/26/2019 4:26 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > > > On Mon, 25 Nov 2019, at 5:39 PM, Koen Piller wrote: > > >> *my motto of the day: *Those who insist that VFPA is a hacked version > > >> of VFP9 have no knowledge of Visual FoxPro. > > > I've been working with FoxPro since 1991, so spare me your motto. This > > thing alters the binaries, and is therefore a hack in the classic sense > of > > the term. Having said that I'm sure it's all fine and legit, if anyone > > wants to take a gamble on it. > > > > > > > Yeah, Koen...Alan's been here a long time and is well respected. Any > > alteration as he says is truly a "hack" but the mere words are not meant > > to convey anything nefarious or illegal (although I restate my surprise > > at M$ not objecting...but as we said, it's not the ballmer era anymore). > > > > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/000301d5a48a$77e89130$67b9b390$@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
On 11/26/2019 12:32 PM, Charlie Coleman wrote: Technically, what VPA is doing is actually not intended by its owner, MS. ...which is why I was surprised M$ did nothing to stop it. Anyway, it is definitely interesting enough that I plan on working with it. I would love larger DBF capacities too, but I will not quibble. The guy is doing some amazing stuff. I hope he reaps big rewards from it somehow. Wait...does it allow the 2GB ceiling per file (DBF, CDX, FPT, etc.) to be lifted? I missed that if so. ??? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/a12f7c05-d070-24e3-7f91-447c35982...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
Technically, what VPA is doing is actually not intended by its owner, MS. So I think the term hack does apply. If it were an open source tool, then I would say it would not be a hack. Like others have said, the work 'hack' draws out negative connotations (for us developers). But consider other terms we hear like "Life hacks" that offer creative ways of using products for unexpected things. But hack or not, all the points are valid. Someone modified binaries which we usually do not look at and which we probably would have a very hard time analyzing (since we do not have the source code of VFP itself). Also, folks have been using it without any reported incident of suspicious behavior. All it would take is one substantiated, repeatable report and that news would spread rapidly. And having worked for the gov, I have to add the usual paranoia regarding foreign entities creating something I would build on - especially if that something deals with "data". But again, here, this is not a foreign government providing something, it is an individual. Could his government storm his house, and take over his work? Sure, it's China - it's gov does that kind of thing - most communist nations do (our gov might do it in the future if we don't pay attention). But again, such things would probably get out quickly. Maybe he should work out a fail-safe, dead-man trigger or something so that we would know if such an event transpired. Anyway, it is definitely interesting enough that I plan on working with it. I would love larger DBF capacities too, but I will not quibble. The guy is doing some amazing stuff. I hope he reaps big rewards from it somehow. -Charlie On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 11:07 AM Koen Piller wrote: > OK alright. My first impression on Alan's remark was a negative, meaning > negative in the sense of the product, like this product is a hack, it is no > good to use. Now meanwhile I have looked around and found on Wiki an > explication of 'hack' :* Hacking is finding applications that are not > intended by the creator of the resource, especially with regard to > computers. Complexity does not play a role here, on the contrary, easy and > fast alternative solutions are preferred. The use of a clothes peg to > prevent a trouser leg from coming between a bicycle chain is basically a > hack. "Normal" inventions and improvements are therefore not hacks, as long > as they are used for what they are made for.* > This makes me think Alan is not correct and I conclude VFPA is an > improvement. > Besides, the history of Alan's use: since 1991, I am proud to tell you I > was there before 1990, started with dBaseII jumped from dBaseIV to FoxPro > for DOS into now VFP9SP2. > Regards, > Koen > > > > Op di 26 nov. 2019 om 16:32 schreef MB Software Solutions, LLC < > mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com>: > > > On 11/26/2019 4:26 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > > > On Mon, 25 Nov 2019, at 5:39 PM, Koen Piller wrote: > > >> *my motto of the day: *Those who insist that VFPA is a hacked version > > >> of VFP9 have no knowledge of Visual FoxPro. > > > I've been working with FoxPro since 1991, so spare me your motto. This > > thing alters the binaries, and is therefore a hack in the classic sense > of > > the term. Having said that I'm sure it's all fine and legit, if anyone > > wants to take a gamble on it. > > > > > > > Yeah, Koen...Alan's been here a long time and is well respected. Any > > alteration as he says is truly a "hack" but the mere words are not meant > > to convey anything nefarious or illegal (although I restate my surprise > > at M$ not objecting...but as we said, it's not the ballmer era anymore). > > > > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/CAJGvLx3XO4w6nL=k5qQSBwC4goYS4m5Ht=62nqzirktmd6c...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
Think i started with foxbase On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 5:07 PM Koen Piller wrote: > OK alright. My first impression on Alan's remark was a negative, meaning > negative in the sense of the product, like this product is a hack, it is no > good to use. Now meanwhile I have looked around and found on Wiki an > explication of 'hack' :* Hacking is finding applications that are not > intended by the creator of the resource, especially with regard to > computers. Complexity does not play a role here, on the contrary, easy and > fast alternative solutions are preferred. The use of a clothes peg to > prevent a trouser leg from coming between a bicycle chain is basically a > hack. "Normal" inventions and improvements are therefore not hacks, as long > as they are used for what they are made for.* > This makes me think Alan is not correct and I conclude VFPA is an > improvement. > Besides, the history of Alan's use: since 1991, I am proud to tell you I > was there before 1990, started with dBaseII jumped from dBaseIV to FoxPro > for DOS into now VFP9SP2. > Regards, > Koen > > > > Op di 26 nov. 2019 om 16:32 schreef MB Software Solutions, LLC < > mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com>: > > > On 11/26/2019 4:26 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > > > On Mon, 25 Nov 2019, at 5:39 PM, Koen Piller wrote: > > >> *my motto of the day: *Those who insist that VFPA is a hacked version > > >> of VFP9 have no knowledge of Visual FoxPro. > > > I've been working with FoxPro since 1991, so spare me your motto. This > > thing alters the binaries, and is therefore a hack in the classic sense > of > > the term. Having said that I'm sure it's all fine and legit, if anyone > > wants to take a gamble on it. > > > > > > > Yeah, Koen...Alan's been here a long time and is well respected. Any > > alteration as he says is truly a "hack" but the mere words are not meant > > to convey anything nefarious or illegal (although I restate my surprise > > at M$ not objecting...but as we said, it's not the ballmer era anymore). > > > > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/capqlobyztb1vukaqzs9odk04+r0kw8e6vfbfvzw4dqhvayk...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
OK alright. My first impression on Alan's remark was a negative, meaning negative in the sense of the product, like this product is a hack, it is no good to use. Now meanwhile I have looked around and found on Wiki an explication of 'hack' :* Hacking is finding applications that are not intended by the creator of the resource, especially with regard to computers. Complexity does not play a role here, on the contrary, easy and fast alternative solutions are preferred. The use of a clothes peg to prevent a trouser leg from coming between a bicycle chain is basically a hack. "Normal" inventions and improvements are therefore not hacks, as long as they are used for what they are made for.* This makes me think Alan is not correct and I conclude VFPA is an improvement. Besides, the history of Alan's use: since 1991, I am proud to tell you I was there before 1990, started with dBaseII jumped from dBaseIV to FoxPro for DOS into now VFP9SP2. Regards, Koen Op di 26 nov. 2019 om 16:32 schreef MB Software Solutions, LLC < mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com>: > On 11/26/2019 4:26 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Nov 2019, at 5:39 PM, Koen Piller wrote: > >> *my motto of the day: *Those who insist that VFPA is a hacked version > >> of VFP9 have no knowledge of Visual FoxPro. > > I've been working with FoxPro since 1991, so spare me your motto. This > thing alters the binaries, and is therefore a hack in the classic sense of > the term. Having said that I'm sure it's all fine and legit, if anyone > wants to take a gamble on it. > > > > Yeah, Koen...Alan's been here a long time and is well respected. Any > alteration as he says is truly a "hack" but the mere words are not meant > to convey anything nefarious or illegal (although I restate my surprise > at M$ not objecting...but as we said, it's not the ballmer era anymore). > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/CACUu1Svve_B3VidMWUvz4qF6g=ybw6jlewven5vve26kdk-...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
On 11/26/2019 4:26 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: On Mon, 25 Nov 2019, at 5:39 PM, Koen Piller wrote: *my motto of the day: *Those who insist that VFPA is a hacked version of VFP9 have no knowledge of Visual FoxPro. I've been working with FoxPro since 1991, so spare me your motto. This thing alters the binaries, and is therefore a hack in the classic sense of the term. Having said that I'm sure it's all fine and legit, if anyone wants to take a gamble on it. Yeah, Koen...Alan's been here a long time and is well respected. Any alteration as he says is truly a "hack" but the mere words are not meant to convey anything nefarious or illegal (although I restate my surprise at M$ not objecting...but as we said, it's not the ballmer era anymore). ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/2899ef7a-9420-1ca2-280d-e6eb4b1e1...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
On Mon, 25 Nov 2019, at 5:39 PM, Koen Piller wrote: > *my motto of the day: *Those who insist that VFPA is a hacked version > of VFP9 have no knowledge of Visual FoxPro. I've been working with FoxPro since 1991, so spare me your motto. This thing alters the binaries, and is therefore a hack in the classic sense of the term. Having said that I'm sure it's all fine and legit, if anyone wants to take a gamble on it. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/f7e18263-69a7-4130-82c5-810b67158...@www.fastmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: So, about this VFPA thing...
Interestingly enough, my AV product (VIPRE Business) takes out the URL for VFPA as a known bad URL... *Brant Layton* *Principal Consultant* *Digital Computing and Consulting, Inc.* 480.964.1316 On 11/25/2019 7:32 AM, profoxtech-requ...@leafe.com wrote: RE: So, about this VFPA thing... --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/eb1287d7-4ea4-9899-8072-ad9f37e5b...@futureone.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
*my motto of the day: *Those who insist that VFPA is a hacked version of VFP9 have no knowledge of Visual FoxPro. Koen Op ma 25 nov. 2019 om 18:36 schreef Jürgen Wondzinski : > As I already wrote it: No, you don't download a hacked version of VFP9. You > download a patcher, which copies your already installed VFP9 into a new > directory, and then patches the various bugs. All patches are documented, > and you could easily do a diff on the original and the patched version. > > Sometimes it would help to get off that Trump-level paranoia :) > > wOOdy > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: ProFox Im Auftrag von Alan Bourke > Gesendet: Montag, 25. November 2019 15:32 > An: profoxt...@leafe.com > Betreff: Re: So, about this VFPA thing... > > If you want to download a Chinese hacked version of Visual Foxpro, yep. > > -- > Alan Bourke > alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/cacuu1su1ofje4dcxgeyayhhzdaht_j-qbhujfvqeorbzzh6...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
I dont think one can call this a hacked version. I would call it an enhanced version. Given the fact of all the bugs mr Chen corrected in VFP9SP2 Koen Op ma 25 nov. 2019 om 15:32 schreef Alan Bourke > If you want to download a Chinese hacked version of Visual Foxpro, yep. > > -- > Alan Bourke > alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/CACUu1Svw05hPzAR=-g15skbjz-yt1jnhe4cgb+_wjsgn+eg...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
If you want to download a Chinese hacked version of Visual Foxpro, yep. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/5920ba40-bd16-4f80-925e-60e17595e...@www.fastmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
Yes that is one solution. You van also install VFPA in a separate directory, not in the same as VFP9. One can than decide to construct the pjx either in VFP9 or VFPA. Deployment of an exe built under VFPA: mr. Chen published a document How-to-Do Rgds Koen Op za 23 nov. 2019 om 12:32 schreef MB Software Solutions, LLC < mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> > So do we just keep developing as we were but put the VFPA runtime files > in place (and deploy them to client sites)? No real change for our > development? > > On 11/22/2019 11:08 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote: > > Yes, that is the right site. > > > > Happy Coding! > > Tracy > > > > On November 22, 2019 10:42:56 PM EST, Vince Teachout > wrote: > >> Apparently, I've been under a rock, and there's a magically enhanced > >> VFP9 SP2 that fixes some bugs, can run concurrently with vfp9, and > >> supports 64 bits. > >> > >> Before I download something, am I on the right site: > >> http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp ? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com > >> Subscription Maintenance: > >> https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox > >> OT-free version of this list: > >> https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech > >> Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives > >> This message: > >> > https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/ce5a8b3d-d308-5d78-eeb7-1c92e4e1d...@caracal.net > >> ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions > >> of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This > >> statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid > >> to see the obvious. > >> > >> Report [OT] Abuse: > >> > http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/ce5a8b3d-d308-5d78-eeb7-1c92e4e1d...@caracal.net > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > > multipart/alternative > >text/plain (text body -- kept) > >text/html > > --- > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/cacuu1su2+av8nc2pxp5sypces9232bmq67rfn10mkfqvzeq...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: So, about this VFPA thing...
Just to be clear: There are TWO versions of VFPA ("A" like the Hex notation
of "10")
a) the patched version of your existing VFP9 installation. This implies that
it's stil a 23Bit version.
This is the version you most probably want to use immediately.
Download the 32Bit on the bottom of:
http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp
It needs a current VFP9 installation with SP2, and then creates a new
directory with a patched new VFP9.exe and also copies all of the other files
of your VFP9 source directory. Thus, after installation you just rename the
old VFP9 directory to something different, and rename the new directory to
the original name, and all your Registrykeys and Links will work without
interruption.
b) a new VFP10 err... VFPA compiler for 64 bit executables.
Stil with some compatibility problems, and I'm not sure if I would ever need
it, but:
http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_gotovfpa64.asp
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
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Betreff: So, about this VFPA thing...
Apparently, I've been under a rock, and there's a magically enhanced
VFP9 SP2 that fixes some bugs, can run concurrently with vfp9, and supports
64 bits.
Before I download something, am I on the right site:
http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp ?
Thanks!
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Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
So do we just keep developing as we were but put the VFPA runtime files in place (and deploy them to client sites)? No real change for our development? On 11/22/2019 11:08 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote: Yes, that is the right site. Happy Coding! Tracy On November 22, 2019 10:42:56 PM EST, Vince Teachout wrote: Apparently, I've been under a rock, and there's a magically enhanced VFP9 SP2 that fixes some bugs, can run concurrently with vfp9, and supports 64 bits. Before I download something, am I on the right site: http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp ? Thanks! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/ce5a8b3d-d308-5d78-eeb7-1c92e4e1d...@caracal.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Report [OT] Abuse: http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/ce5a8b3d-d308-5d78-eeb7-1c92e4e1d...@caracal.net --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/ae9fc971-d862-462f-04dd-73c6867a2...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: So, about this VFPA thing...
Yes, that is the right site. Happy Coding! Tracy On November 22, 2019 10:42:56 PM EST, Vince Teachout wrote: >Apparently, I've been under a rock, and there's a magically enhanced >VFP9 SP2 that fixes some bugs, can run concurrently with vfp9, and >supports 64 bits. > >Before I download something, am I on the right site: >http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp ? > >Thanks! > > > > > >___ >Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com >Subscription Maintenance: >https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox >OT-free version of this list: >https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech >Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives >This message: >https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/ce5a8b3d-d308-5d78-eeb7-1c92e4e1d...@caracal.net >** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions >of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This >statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid >to see the obvious. > >Report [OT] Abuse: >http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/ce5a8b3d-d308-5d78-eeb7-1c92e4e1d...@caracal.net --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/2bd0e3fe-9b9b-4c4b-aea4-a564bee4e...@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
