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thanks, that's wassup... I tried the plus / minus by its self, and it does move the counter/play head, but how do I make sure nothing is selected? there always seams to be something selected... GF On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey GF. With a keyboard with the numeric keypad, use option shift plus or minus to expand and contract the left edge of the selection, and shift command plus or minus to expand/contract the right half of the selection. Use option command plus minus to increase or decrease the nudge value. You can get it down to 64 ticks. When no data is selected, simply use plus or minus to move the play head by the nudge amount. Once you have it where you want it, then you can use down and up arrows to make your selection. If you want to nudge your selected of audio, hit command E to make a new region out of the selected content. hit plus or minus on their own to nudge the whole region. Hope this helps a bit. Reeves
Re: paus?
cool... Question though, does 1 and 2 on the number pad count as scrubbing or just using the scrub wheel on the control surface? GF On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hey Clarence, Well, first thing you'll need to do is check the preference for Insertion Follows Scrub in the Preferences. Now, when you scrub the track, the insertion point will be exactly where you scrubbed and you can split regions with Command-e. Once you've split stuff, you can select the region and delete or whatever. The keyboard shortcut pdf has tons of commands for editing. This is definitely a subject that could benefit from an audio demonstration. I did one for the short-lived MIDIMag podcast that Kevin hosted a few years ago. The exact same principles apply as it relates to the keyboard commands and process, I should do a new one, though. It's just finding the time to sit down and do it. My schedule for the next 2 months is absolutely insane. Somehow, i'll have to make the time. Slau On Jul 17, 2010, at 11:40 PM, clarence griffin wrote: that all makes sense. Thanks. I use the default mode. That's how sonar behaves, and I didn't want to change it up. I think sound forge works that way as well. I am really getting the hang of this editing thing. I wish there was a way to really get close up editing though. I can kind of get close, but for looping and what not, how can I nudge the selection points? is that possible? What do you suggest for something like really fine editing? GF On Jul 17, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hey Clarence, Control-Space Bar actually puts the transport into a Pause with Pre-Prime for instant playback. This is what that means: If you have a large session, say, 24 tracks record enabled or even on an LE system, say, 16 tracks ready to record in QuickPunch mode, the system is going to allocate drive space, prepare voices, automation data (if there is any) and a few other things. If you simply start the recording or even playback, there will be a pause before the transport engages. This can vary from a second to several seconds if it's a particularly large session. In order to have a more immediate start to playback, it's possible to pre-prime the deck, as they say, for instant playback or recording. Pressing Control-Space Bar puts Pro Tools into this Pause mode. Simply pressing the Space Bar after that instantly starts playback. Further, Control-Command-Space Bar puts PT into Pre-Primed Record mode so pressing Space Bar after that instantly puts the Transport into record mode. Pausing the transport, the way most people think of pausing something, is a bit different. Pro Tools has two main behaviors: 1. Is for the transport to remember the start position and, if the transport is stopped, it will keep resuming playback from the same start position unless that start position is specifically changed, and 2. Insertion following Playback which means that wherever you press the space bar, the transport will keep the insertion point there and, upon pressing space bar again, will continue playing from that location. I would strongly suggest using the default method which is for the insertion point to not follow playback. Here's the reason. When you make a selection, pressing the space bar will play only the selected range. No matter how many times you press play, it'll only play the selected range. This is a good means to verify your selection range quickly without even having to look at the start, End and Length fields in the edit window. From there, one can cut, copy paste, etc. Now, if the insertion point follows playback, as soon as you play the selection, the selection is actually lost. It's very obvious to a sighted user but it can be confusing to a blind user. Here are two things one can do for alternatives: 1. If you really want to get into that other mode where it just pauses when you hit the space bar, pressing Control-n toggles this playback mode and the preference is also in the SetupsPreferences dialog and is called Insertion Follows Playback. 2. If the transport is engaged, and you find a spot you want to start playback from, simply pressing the down arrow will automatically populate the start field with the current transport value. In other words, if, while the transport is engaged, you press the down arrow at the 2 minute mark, the start field will now say 2:00:000 and if you press space bar, the transport will stop but, upon playback, will now start from the 2 minute mark. Hopefully, that makes sense. Let me know if there's something that isn't clear. Best, Slau On Jul 17, 2010, at 1:23 PM, clarence griffin wrote: I thought control + Space was to pause my project? Its not working. Is there something I have to turn on in setup or something? I looked all over, and didn't find anything. Thanks. GF
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1 and 2 are Rewind and Fast Forward so they're different. What you can use is Shuttle mode. On HD systems it's a little different so I might not recall exactly but I think it's Control and numpad 5. This will create an insertion point and shuttle through a track at normal speed. 6 is faster, 7 still faster, etc. and 4 is slower, 3 is slower still, etc. Pressing the minus button on the num pad will reverse the direction. I find the shuttle mode in LE somewhat useful but HD has a much better system. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:52 AM, clarence griffin wrote: cool... Question though, does 1 and 2 on the number pad count as scrubbing or just using the scrub wheel on the control surface? GF On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hey Clarence, Well, first thing you'll need to do is check the preference for Insertion Follows Scrub in the Preferences. Now, when you scrub the track, the insertion point will be exactly where you scrubbed and you can split regions with Command-e. Once you've split stuff, you can select the region and delete or whatever. The keyboard shortcut pdf has tons of commands for editing. This is definitely a subject that could benefit from an audio demonstration. I did one for the short-lived MIDIMag podcast that Kevin hosted a few years ago. The exact same principles apply as it relates to the keyboard commands and process, I should do a new one, though. It's just finding the time to sit down and do it. My schedule for the next 2 months is absolutely insane. Somehow, i'll have to make the time. Slau On Jul 17, 2010, at 11:40 PM, clarence griffin wrote: that all makes sense. Thanks. I use the default mode. That's how sonar behaves, and I didn't want to change it up. I think sound forge works that way as well. I am really getting the hang of this editing thing. I wish there was a way to really get close up editing though. I can kind of get close, but for looping and what not, how can I nudge the selection points? is that possible? What do you suggest for something like really fine editing? GF On Jul 17, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hey Clarence, Control-Space Bar actually puts the transport into a Pause with Pre-Prime for instant playback. This is what that means: If you have a large session, say, 24 tracks record enabled or even on an LE system, say, 16 tracks ready to record in QuickPunch mode, the system is going to allocate drive space, prepare voices, automation data (if there is any) and a few other things. If you simply start the recording or even playback, there will be a pause before the transport engages. This can vary from a second to several seconds if it's a particularly large session. In order to have a more immediate start to playback, it's possible to pre-prime the deck, as they say, for instant playback or recording. Pressing Control-Space Bar puts Pro Tools into this Pause mode. Simply pressing the Space Bar after that instantly starts playback. Further, Control-Command-Space Bar puts PT into Pre-Primed Record mode so pressing Space Bar after that instantly puts the Transport into record mode. Pausing the transport, the way most people think of pausing something, is a bit different. Pro Tools has two main behaviors: 1. Is for the transport to remember the start position and, if the transport is stopped, it will keep resuming playback from the same start position unless that start position is specifically changed, and 2. Insertion following Playback which means that wherever you press the space bar, the transport will keep the insertion point there and, upon pressing space bar again, will continue playing from that location. I would strongly suggest using the default method which is for the insertion point to not follow playback. Here's the reason. When you make a selection, pressing the space bar will play only the selected range. No matter how many times you press play, it'll only play the selected range. This is a good means to verify your selection range quickly without even having to look at the start, End and Length fields in the edit window. From there, one can cut, copy paste, etc. Now, if the insertion point follows playback, as soon as you play the selection, the selection is actually lost. It's very obvious to a sighted user but it can be confusing to a blind user. Here are two things one can do for alternatives: 1. If you really want to get into that other mode where it just pauses when you hit the space bar, pressing Control-n toggles this playback mode and the preference is also in the SetupsPreferences dialog and is called Insertion Follows Playback. 2. If the transport is engaged, and you find a spot you want to start playback from, simply pressing the down arrow will automatically populate the start field with the current transport value. In other words, if, while the
Re: paus?
I think you're confusing a selection in the timeline with a selection of tracks. The two are different. A track selection is used for stuff like making a track inactive, deleting, showing or hiding, etc. A selection within a track or multiple tracks has to do with a start and end time along with an insertion point. In previous versions of Pro Tools, the insertion cursor had nothing to do with which tracks were selected. One could perform an action like Hide selected tracks or Make selected tracks inactive while an insertion cursor was located in an unrelated track. Now, it's possible, within the preferences, to have the insertion cursor determine which track is currently selected but, again, that kind of selection has to do with the ability to do things like deleting the track itself, making it active or inactive to free up voices, performing global actions to that track along with other selected tracks while making a selection within a track differs in that it has to do with a start and end point. Hope that makes it a bit clearer. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:43 AM, clarence griffin wrote: thanks, that's wassup... I tried the plus / minus by its self, and it does move the counter/play head, but how do I make sure nothing is selected? there always seams to be something selected... GF On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey GF. With a keyboard with the numeric keypad, use option shift plus or minus to expand and contract the left edge of the selection, and shift command plus or minus to expand/contract the right half of the selection. Use option command plus minus to increase or decrease the nudge value. You can get it down to 64 ticks. When no data is selected, simply use plus or minus to move the play head by the nudge amount. Once you have it where you want it, then you can use down and up arrows to make your selection. If you want to nudge your selected of audio, hit command E to make a new region out of the selected content. hit plus or minus on their own to nudge the whole region. Hope this helps a bit. Reeves
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What methods are available for selecting a track from the keyboard? Right now, I use the arrows to change the selected track, and listen to see what I've selected, or else I press a track select button on my cntrol surface. Are their any other ways? Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 8:16 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: paus? I think you're confusing a selection in the timeline with a selection of tracks. The two are different. A track selection is used for stuff like making a track inactive, deleting, showing or hiding, etc. A selection within a track or multiple tracks has to do with a start and end time along with an insertion point. In previous versions of Pro Tools, the insertion cursor had nothing to do with which tracks were selected. One could perform an action like Hide selected tracks or Make selected tracks inactive while an insertion cursor was located in an unrelated track. Now, it's possible, within the preferences, to have the insertion cursor determine which track is currently selected but, again, that kind of selection has to do with the ability to do things like deleting the track itself, making it active or inactive to free up voices, performing global actions to that track along with other selected tracks while making a selection within a track differs in that it has to do with a start and end point. Hope that makes it a bit clearer. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:43 AM, clarence griffin wrote: thanks, that's wassup... I tried the plus / minus by its self, and it does move the counter/play head, but how do I make sure nothing is selected? there always seams to be something selected... GF On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey GF. With a keyboard with the numeric keypad, use option shift plus or minus to expand and contract the left edge of the selection, and shift command plus or minus to expand/contract the right half of the selection. Use option command plus minus to increase or decrease the nudge value. You can get it down to 64 ticks. When no data is selected, simply use plus or minus to move the play head by the nudge amount. Once you have it where you want it, then you can use down and up arrows to make your selection. If you want to nudge your selected of audio, hit command E to make a new region out of the selected content. hit plus or minus on their own to nudge the whole region. Hope this helps a bit. Reeves
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Apart from those two methods, one can click on the name of the track within the edit window or Mix window. With outSPOKEN, it was easy because the mouse pointer was essentially always the focal point. With VoiceOver, however, routing the mouse pointer seems to be inconsistent. That said, if you click with the mouse on a track name, it'll select or deselect the track. Shift-clicking will add to the selection and the Command and Option modifiers perform their global actions in this case. BTW, in the Tracks List table, there's actually a button to the left of the track icon which is a select button. We don't have direct access to the button much like we don't have direct access to it's Show/Hide status. Unlike the select status, however, the show and hide states are accessible through the contextual menu. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: What methods are available for selecting a track from the keyboard? Right now, I use the arrows to change the selected track, and listen to see what I've selected, or else I press a track select button on my cntrol surface. Are their any other ways? Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 8:16 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: paus? I think you're confusing a selection in the timeline with a selection of tracks. The two are different. A track selection is used for stuff like making a track inactive, deleting, showing or hiding, etc. A selection within a track or multiple tracks has to do with a start and end time along with an insertion point. In previous versions of Pro Tools, the insertion cursor had nothing to do with which tracks were selected. One could perform an action like Hide selected tracks or Make selected tracks inactive while an insertion cursor was located in an unrelated track. Now, it's possible, within the preferences, to have the insertion cursor determine which track is currently selected but, again, that kind of selection has to do with the ability to do things like deleting the track itself, making it active or inactive to free up voices, performing global actions to that track along with other selected tracks while making a selection within a track differs in that it has to do with a start and end point. Hope that makes it a bit clearer. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:43 AM, clarence griffin wrote: thanks, that's wassup... I tried the plus / minus by its self, and it does move the counter/play head, but how do I make sure nothing is selected? there always seams to be something selected... GF On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey GF. With a keyboard with the numeric keypad, use option shift plus or minus to expand and contract the left edge of the selection, and shift command plus or minus to expand/contract the right half of the selection. Use option command plus minus to increase or decrease the nudge value. You can get it down to 64 ticks. When no data is selected, simply use plus or minus to move the play head by the nudge amount. Once you have it where you want it, then you can use down and up arrows to make your selection. If you want to nudge your selected of audio, hit command E to make a new region out of the selected content. hit plus or minus on their own to nudge the whole region. Hope this helps a bit. Reeves
inputs on the project mix IO
Are we only able to access the first 2 inputs on the project mix. When selecting ins and outs, those seam to be the only 2 options. I guess my other jacks will not be getting any use? WTF is the deal with that? GF
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it does change the start selection though, I look at the counters allot when I am editing now. they are my crutch. Is that a good thing to do? GF On Jul 19, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: I think you're confusing a selection in the timeline with a selection of tracks. The two are different. A track selection is used for stuff like making a track inactive, deleting, showing or hiding, etc. A selection within a track or multiple tracks has to do with a start and end time along with an insertion point. In previous versions of Pro Tools, the insertion cursor had nothing to do with which tracks were selected. One could perform an action like Hide selected tracks or Make selected tracks inactive while an insertion cursor was located in an unrelated track. Now, it's possible, within the preferences, to have the insertion cursor determine which track is currently selected but, again, that kind of selection has to do with the ability to do things like deleting the track itself, making it active or inactive to free up voices, performing global actions to that track along with other selected tracks while making a selection within a track differs in that it has to do with a start and end point. Hope that makes it a bit clearer. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:43 AM, clarence griffin wrote: thanks, that's wassup... I tried the plus / minus by its self, and it does move the counter/play head, but how do I make sure nothing is selected? there always seams to be something selected... GF On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey GF. With a keyboard with the numeric keypad, use option shift plus or minus to expand and contract the left edge of the selection, and shift command plus or minus to expand/contract the right half of the selection. Use option command plus minus to increase or decrease the nudge value. You can get it down to 64 ticks. When no data is selected, simply use plus or minus to move the play head by the nudge amount. Once you have it where you want it, then you can use down and up arrows to make your selection. If you want to nudge your selected of audio, hit command E to make a new region out of the selected content. hit plus or minus on their own to nudge the whole region. Hope this helps a bit. Reeves
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ah, I see how that shuddle works. pretty nice, can't I use that to make my in and out marker settings as well, i.e the up and down arrows? Sorry for all these questions at once, this is very exciting to me though. I am working on a project, and because of you, I am almost done with it. I have it sounding pretty good. its a little short intro to a cd that some friends are giving away at their wedding. Thanks for all the help. GF On Jul 19, 2010, at 8:08 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: 1 and 2 are Rewind and Fast Forward so they're different. What you can use is Shuttle mode. On HD systems it's a little different so I might not recall exactly but I think it's Control and numpad 5. This will create an insertion point and shuttle through a track at normal speed. 6 is faster, 7 still faster, etc. and 4 is slower, 3 is slower still, etc. Pressing the minus button on the num pad will reverse the direction. I find the shuttle mode in LE somewhat useful but HD has a much better system. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:52 AM, clarence griffin wrote: cool... Question though, does 1 and 2 on the number pad count as scrubbing or just using the scrub wheel on the control surface? GF On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hey Clarence, Well, first thing you'll need to do is check the preference for Insertion Follows Scrub in the Preferences. Now, when you scrub the track, the insertion point will be exactly where you scrubbed and you can split regions with Command-e. Once you've split stuff, you can select the region and delete or whatever. The keyboard shortcut pdf has tons of commands for editing. This is definitely a subject that could benefit from an audio demonstration. I did one for the short-lived MIDIMag podcast that Kevin hosted a few years ago. The exact same principles apply as it relates to the keyboard commands and process, I should do a new one, though. It's just finding the time to sit down and do it. My schedule for the next 2 months is absolutely insane. Somehow, i'll have to make the time. Slau On Jul 17, 2010, at 11:40 PM, clarence griffin wrote: that all makes sense. Thanks. I use the default mode. That's how sonar behaves, and I didn't want to change it up. I think sound forge works that way as well. I am really getting the hang of this editing thing. I wish there was a way to really get close up editing though. I can kind of get close, but for looping and what not, how can I nudge the selection points? is that possible? What do you suggest for something like really fine editing? GF On Jul 17, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hey Clarence, Control-Space Bar actually puts the transport into a Pause with Pre-Prime for instant playback. This is what that means: If you have a large session, say, 24 tracks record enabled or even on an LE system, say, 16 tracks ready to record in QuickPunch mode, the system is going to allocate drive space, prepare voices, automation data (if there is any) and a few other things. If you simply start the recording or even playback, there will be a pause before the transport engages. This can vary from a second to several seconds if it's a particularly large session. In order to have a more immediate start to playback, it's possible to pre-prime the deck, as they say, for instant playback or recording. Pressing Control-Space Bar puts Pro Tools into this Pause mode. Simply pressing the Space Bar after that instantly starts playback. Further, Control-Command-Space Bar puts PT into Pre-Primed Record mode so pressing Space Bar after that instantly puts the Transport into record mode. Pausing the transport, the way most people think of pausing something, is a bit different. Pro Tools has two main behaviors: 1. Is for the transport to remember the start position and, if the transport is stopped, it will keep resuming playback from the same start position unless that start position is specifically changed, and 2. Insertion following Playback which means that wherever you press the space bar, the transport will keep the insertion point there and, upon pressing space bar again, will continue playing from that location. I would strongly suggest using the default method which is for the insertion point to not follow playback. Here's the reason. When you make a selection, pressing the space bar will play only the selected range. No matter how many times you press play, it'll only play the selected range. This is a good means to verify your selection range quickly without even having to look at the start, End and Length fields in the edit window. From there, one can cut, copy paste, etc. Now, if the insertion point follows playback, as soon as you play the selection, the selection is actually lost. It's very obvious to a sighted user but it can be confusing to a blind user. Here are two things one can do for
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You can solo a selected track by pressing s with a modifier, I can't remember, I think it's Shift but I'm not sure. I never use that command because I've got the control surface right in front of me. Short of that, just hit the solo button in a track. Be aware that there are two modes for solo which are latched and unlatched. In latch mode, the solo buttons stick, in other words, you can solo more than one track at a time. In unlatched mode, each solo button press on a different track cancels the previous solo. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:49 AM, clarence griffin wrote: how do you listen to what you select Bryan, is there a way to solo and mute from the key board too? when I press option left bracket, it plays selection, but it doesn't just play 1 track. How would I go about listening to what track I am on with out the project mix? All these damn short cuts! Jesus! GF On Jul 19, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: What methods are available for selecting a track from the keyboard? Right now, I use the arrows to change the selected track, and listen to see what I've selected, or else I press a track select button on my cntrol surface. Are their any other ways? Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 8:16 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: paus? I think you're confusing a selection in the timeline with a selection of tracks. The two are different. A track selection is used for stuff like making a track inactive, deleting, showing or hiding, etc. A selection within a track or multiple tracks has to do with a start and end time along with an insertion point. In previous versions of Pro Tools, the insertion cursor had nothing to do with which tracks were selected. One could perform an action like Hide selected tracks or Make selected tracks inactive while an insertion cursor was located in an unrelated track. Now, it's possible, within the preferences, to have the insertion cursor determine which track is currently selected but, again, that kind of selection has to do with the ability to do things like deleting the track itself, making it active or inactive to free up voices, performing global actions to that track along with other selected tracks while making a selection within a track differs in that it has to do with a start and end point. Hope that makes it a bit clearer. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:43 AM, clarence griffin wrote: thanks, that's wassup... I tried the plus / minus by its self, and it does move the counter/play head, but how do I make sure nothing is selected? there always seams to be something selected... GF On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey GF. With a keyboard with the numeric keypad, use option shift plus or minus to expand and contract the left edge of the selection, and shift command plus or minus to expand/contract the right half of the selection. Use option command plus minus to increase or decrease the nudge value. You can get it down to 64 ticks. When no data is selected, simply use plus or minus to move the play head by the nudge amount. Once you have it where you want it, then you can use down and up arrows to make your selection. If you want to nudge your selected of audio, hit command E to make a new region out of the selected content. hit plus or minus on their own to nudge the whole region. Hope this helps a bit. Reeves
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Yeah, it does change the playback counter. The plus and minus will move according to the nudge value. Unfortunately, the nudge value doesn't seem to be displayed. There is a nudge value button which, when pressed, is like pressing the asterisk key for setting the main counter or the slash key for setting the start field. If you press the nudge value button in the counter cluster, you can type the value you want to move by. The default values that Pro Tools likes to see are 1 millisecond, 10 milliseconds, 100 milliseconds, 500 milliseconds and one second. If you type in 0:01:000 and press Enter, your nudge value is 1 second and pressing the plus key on the numpad will move you forward by 1 second increments. To quickly change the nudge value to a smaller amount, press Command-Option-minus on the numpad. Now your nudge value is 500 milliseconds. Pressing Command-Option-minus again will take it down to 100 milliseconds. Does that make sense? You can type any nudge value you'd like but if it's anything other than those defaults, you can't change the value on the fly with the Command-Option-plus or minus keys. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:57 AM, clarence griffin wrote: I thought that when I use the plus and minus to move the play head, it would change when I press the space bar, it doesn't. that's what I thought that was all about. Maybe I am cornfuzed? lol. GF On Jul 19, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: I think you're confusing a selection in the timeline with a selection of tracks. The two are different. A track selection is used for stuff like making a track inactive, deleting, showing or hiding, etc. A selection within a track or multiple tracks has to do with a start and end time along with an insertion point. In previous versions of Pro Tools, the insertion cursor had nothing to do with which tracks were selected. One could perform an action like Hide selected tracks or Make selected tracks inactive while an insertion cursor was located in an unrelated track. Now, it's possible, within the preferences, to have the insertion cursor determine which track is currently selected but, again, that kind of selection has to do with the ability to do things like deleting the track itself, making it active or inactive to free up voices, performing global actions to that track along with other selected tracks while making a selection within a track differs in that it has to do with a start and end point. Hope that makes it a bit clearer. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:43 AM, clarence griffin wrote: thanks, that's wassup... I tried the plus / minus by its self, and it does move the counter/play head, but how do I make sure nothing is selected? there always seams to be something selected... GF On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey GF. With a keyboard with the numeric keypad, use option shift plus or minus to expand and contract the left edge of the selection, and shift command plus or minus to expand/contract the right half of the selection. Use option command plus minus to increase or decrease the nudge value. You can get it down to 64 ticks. When no data is selected, simply use plus or minus to move the play head by the nudge amount. Once you have it where you want it, then you can use down and up arrows to make your selection. If you want to nudge your selected of audio, hit command E to make a new region out of the selected content. hit plus or minus on their own to nudge the whole region. Hope this helps a bit. Reeves
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For now, you'll probably need to double check the counters just to make sure you're doing what you want to be doing. Once you get used to it, you won't have to refer to them much. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:58 AM, clarence griffin wrote: it does change the start selection though, I look at the counters allot when I am editing now. they are my crutch. Is that a good thing to do? GF On Jul 19, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: I think you're confusing a selection in the timeline with a selection of tracks. The two are different. A track selection is used for stuff like making a track inactive, deleting, showing or hiding, etc. A selection within a track or multiple tracks has to do with a start and end time along with an insertion point. In previous versions of Pro Tools, the insertion cursor had nothing to do with which tracks were selected. One could perform an action like Hide selected tracks or Make selected tracks inactive while an insertion cursor was located in an unrelated track. Now, it's possible, within the preferences, to have the insertion cursor determine which track is currently selected but, again, that kind of selection has to do with the ability to do things like deleting the track itself, making it active or inactive to free up voices, performing global actions to that track along with other selected tracks while making a selection within a track differs in that it has to do with a start and end point. Hope that makes it a bit clearer. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:43 AM, clarence griffin wrote: thanks, that's wassup... I tried the plus / minus by its self, and it does move the counter/play head, but how do I make sure nothing is selected? there always seams to be something selected... GF On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey GF. With a keyboard with the numeric keypad, use option shift plus or minus to expand and contract the left edge of the selection, and shift command plus or minus to expand/contract the right half of the selection. Use option command plus minus to increase or decrease the nudge value. You can get it down to 64 ticks. When no data is selected, simply use plus or minus to move the play head by the nudge amount. Once you have it where you want it, then you can use down and up arrows to make your selection. If you want to nudge your selected of audio, hit command E to make a new region out of the selected content. hit plus or minus on their own to nudge the whole region. Hope this helps a bit. Reeves
Re: paus?
I don't think the up and down arrows will work in shuttle mode. I believe the down arrow, for example, will stop the transport right at the spot where you press it. Pressing Shift during shuttling will, however make a selection. Get into shuttle mode, press Shift where you want the start and let go of shift where you want to end. Press the Space bar to stop the transport. Pressing Space Bar again will play only the selected range. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 11:09 AM, clarence griffin wrote: ah, I see how that shuddle works. pretty nice, can't I use that to make my in and out marker settings as well, i.e the up and down arrows? Sorry for all these questions at once, this is very exciting to me though. I am working on a project, and because of you, I am almost done with it. I have it sounding pretty good. its a little short intro to a cd that some friends are giving away at their wedding. Thanks for all the help. GF On Jul 19, 2010, at 8:08 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: 1 and 2 are Rewind and Fast Forward so they're different. What you can use is Shuttle mode. On HD systems it's a little different so I might not recall exactly but I think it's Control and numpad 5. This will create an insertion point and shuttle through a track at normal speed. 6 is faster, 7 still faster, etc. and 4 is slower, 3 is slower still, etc. Pressing the minus button on the num pad will reverse the direction. I find the shuttle mode in LE somewhat useful but HD has a much better system. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:52 AM, clarence griffin wrote: cool... Question though, does 1 and 2 on the number pad count as scrubbing or just using the scrub wheel on the control surface? GF On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hey Clarence, Well, first thing you'll need to do is check the preference for Insertion Follows Scrub in the Preferences. Now, when you scrub the track, the insertion point will be exactly where you scrubbed and you can split regions with Command-e. Once you've split stuff, you can select the region and delete or whatever. The keyboard shortcut pdf has tons of commands for editing. This is definitely a subject that could benefit from an audio demonstration. I did one for the short-lived MIDIMag podcast that Kevin hosted a few years ago. The exact same principles apply as it relates to the keyboard commands and process, I should do a new one, though. It's just finding the time to sit down and do it. My schedule for the next 2 months is absolutely insane. Somehow, i'll have to make the time. Slau On Jul 17, 2010, at 11:40 PM, clarence griffin wrote: that all makes sense. Thanks. I use the default mode. That's how sonar behaves, and I didn't want to change it up. I think sound forge works that way as well. I am really getting the hang of this editing thing. I wish there was a way to really get close up editing though. I can kind of get close, but for looping and what not, how can I nudge the selection points? is that possible? What do you suggest for something like really fine editing? GF On Jul 17, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hey Clarence, Control-Space Bar actually puts the transport into a Pause with Pre-Prime for instant playback. This is what that means: If you have a large session, say, 24 tracks record enabled or even on an LE system, say, 16 tracks ready to record in QuickPunch mode, the system is going to allocate drive space, prepare voices, automation data (if there is any) and a few other things. If you simply start the recording or even playback, there will be a pause before the transport engages. This can vary from a second to several seconds if it's a particularly large session. In order to have a more immediate start to playback, it's possible to pre-prime the deck, as they say, for instant playback or recording. Pressing Control-Space Bar puts Pro Tools into this Pause mode. Simply pressing the Space Bar after that instantly starts playback. Further, Control-Command-Space Bar puts PT into Pre-Primed Record mode so pressing Space Bar after that instantly puts the Transport into record mode. Pausing the transport, the way most people think of pausing something, is a bit different. Pro Tools has two main behaviors: 1. Is for the transport to remember the start position and, if the transport is stopped, it will keep resuming playback from the same start position unless that start position is specifically changed, and 2. Insertion following Playback which means that wherever you press the space bar, the transport will keep the insertion point there and, upon pressing space bar again, will continue playing from that location. I would strongly suggest using the default method which is for the insertion point to not follow playback. Here's the reason. When you make a selection, pressing the space bar will play only the selected
nudge values
BTW, when I was talking about nudge values earlier, I forgot to mention that the nudge value is expressed in the value of the counter display, that is, in either minutes:seconds or bar|beat. So the same rule applies just with different values. The smallest default nudge value in bar|beats is 60 ticks. Pressing Command-Option-plus on the num pad will cycle it up to 120 ticks, then 240, 480, 1 beat, 2 beats and then a bar. Again, you can enter a custom value but will lose the ability to cycle on the fly unless you go back to one of the default values like 1 bar or 120 ticks, etc. Slau
Re: paus?
When you're in Bar Beat mode, you can nudge by ticks. The lowest value using the plus minus key with command option is 64 ticks. However, if you type a value in, you can get down to 10 or so ticks. Hope this helps.
Re: paus?
I get it. cool. This helps. thanks. GF On Jul 19, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Yeah, it does change the playback counter. The plus and minus will move according to the nudge value. Unfortunately, the nudge value doesn't seem to be displayed. There is a nudge value button which, when pressed, is like pressing the asterisk key for setting the main counter or the slash key for setting the start field. If you press the nudge value button in the counter cluster, you can type the value you want to move by. The default values that Pro Tools likes to see are 1 millisecond, 10 milliseconds, 100 milliseconds, 500 milliseconds and one second. If you type in 0:01:000 and press Enter, your nudge value is 1 second and pressing the plus key on the numpad will move you forward by 1 second increments. To quickly change the nudge value to a smaller amount, press Command-Option-minus on the numpad. Now your nudge value is 500 milliseconds. Pressing Command-Option-minus again will take it down to 100 milliseconds. Does that make sense? You can type any nudge value you'd like but if it's anything other than those defaults, you can't change the value on the fly with the Command-Option-plus or minus keys. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:57 AM, clarence griffin wrote: I thought that when I use the plus and minus to move the play head, it would change when I press the space bar, it doesn't. that's what I thought that was all about. Maybe I am cornfuzed? lol. GF On Jul 19, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: I think you're confusing a selection in the timeline with a selection of tracks. The two are different. A track selection is used for stuff like making a track inactive, deleting, showing or hiding, etc. A selection within a track or multiple tracks has to do with a start and end time along with an insertion point. In previous versions of Pro Tools, the insertion cursor had nothing to do with which tracks were selected. One could perform an action like Hide selected tracks or Make selected tracks inactive while an insertion cursor was located in an unrelated track. Now, it's possible, within the preferences, to have the insertion cursor determine which track is currently selected but, again, that kind of selection has to do with the ability to do things like deleting the track itself, making it active or inactive to free up voices, performing global actions to that track along with other selected tracks while making a selection within a track differs in that it has to do with a start and end point. Hope that makes it a bit clearer. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:43 AM, clarence griffin wrote: thanks, that's wassup... I tried the plus / minus by its self, and it does move the counter/play head, but how do I make sure nothing is selected? there always seams to be something selected... GF On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey GF. With a keyboard with the numeric keypad, use option shift plus or minus to expand and contract the left edge of the selection, and shift command plus or minus to expand/contract the right half of the selection. Use option command plus minus to increase or decrease the nudge value. You can get it down to 64 ticks. When no data is selected, simply use plus or minus to move the play head by the nudge amount. Once you have it where you want it, then you can use down and up arrows to make your selection. If you want to nudge your selected of audio, hit command E to make a new region out of the selected content. hit plus or minus on their own to nudge the whole region. Hope this helps a bit. Reeves
Re: pause
Yep, the three commands that would apply to selected tracks would be Shift-r for record, Shift-s for solo and Shift-m for mute. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:48 PM, clarence griffin wrote: shift does the trick, but when I am with out my project mix, this will come in handy. And shift m mutes as well. GF On Jul 19, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: You can solo a selected track by pressing s with a modifier, I can't remember, I think it's Shift but I'm not sure. I never use that command because I've got the control surface right in front of me. Short of that, just hit the solo button in a track. Be aware that there are two modes for solo which are latched and unlatched. In latch mode, the solo buttons stick, in other words, you can solo more than one track at a time. In unlatched mode, each solo button press on a different track cancels the previous solo. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:49 AM, clarence griffin wrote: how do you listen to what you select Bryan, is there a way to solo and mute from the key board too? when I press option left bracket, it plays selection, but it doesn't just play 1 track. How would I go about listening to what track I am on with out the project mix? All these damn short cuts! Jesus! GF On Jul 19, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: What methods are available for selecting a track from the keyboard? Right now, I use the arrows to change the selected track, and listen to see what I've selected, or else I press a track select button on my cntrol surface. Are their any other ways? Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 8:16 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: paus? I think you're confusing a selection in the timeline with a selection of tracks. The two are different. A track selection is used for stuff like making a track inactive, deleting, showing or hiding, etc. A selection within a track or multiple tracks has to do with a start and end time along with an insertion point. In previous versions of Pro Tools, the insertion cursor had nothing to do with which tracks were selected. One could perform an action like Hide selected tracks or Make selected tracks inactive while an insertion cursor was located in an unrelated track. Now, it's possible, within the preferences, to have the insertion cursor determine which track is currently selected but, again, that kind of selection has to do with the ability to do things like deleting the track itself, making it active or inactive to free up voices, performing global actions to that track along with other selected tracks while making a selection within a track differs in that it has to do with a start and end point. Hope that makes it a bit clearer. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:43 AM, clarence griffin wrote: thanks, that's wassup... I tried the plus / minus by its self, and it does move the counter/play head, but how do I make sure nothing is selected? there always seams to be something selected... GF On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey GF. With a keyboard with the numeric keypad, use option shift plus or minus to expand and contract the left edge of the selection, and shift command plus or minus to expand/contract the right half of the selection. Use option command plus minus to increase or decrease the nudge value. You can get it down to 64 ticks. When no data is selected, simply use plus or minus to move the play head by the nudge amount. Once you have it where you want it, then you can use down and up arrows to make your selection. If you want to nudge your selected of audio, hit command E to make a new region out of the selected content. hit plus or minus on their own to nudge the whole region. Hope this helps a bit. Reeves
Re: pause
Thank you sir. I am making note of all this. lol. GF On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Yep, the three commands that would apply to selected tracks would be Shift-r for record, Shift-s for solo and Shift-m for mute. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:48 PM, clarence griffin wrote: shift does the trick, but when I am with out my project mix, this will come in handy. And shift m mutes as well. GF On Jul 19, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: You can solo a selected track by pressing s with a modifier, I can't remember, I think it's Shift but I'm not sure. I never use that command because I've got the control surface right in front of me. Short of that, just hit the solo button in a track. Be aware that there are two modes for solo which are latched and unlatched. In latch mode, the solo buttons stick, in other words, you can solo more than one track at a time. In unlatched mode, each solo button press on a different track cancels the previous solo. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:49 AM, clarence griffin wrote: how do you listen to what you select Bryan, is there a way to solo and mute from the key board too? when I press option left bracket, it plays selection, but it doesn't just play 1 track. How would I go about listening to what track I am on with out the project mix? All these damn short cuts! Jesus! GF On Jul 19, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: What methods are available for selecting a track from the keyboard? Right now, I use the arrows to change the selected track, and listen to see what I've selected, or else I press a track select button on my cntrol surface. Are their any other ways? Bryan -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 8:16 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: paus? I think you're confusing a selection in the timeline with a selection of tracks. The two are different. A track selection is used for stuff like making a track inactive, deleting, showing or hiding, etc. A selection within a track or multiple tracks has to do with a start and end time along with an insertion point. In previous versions of Pro Tools, the insertion cursor had nothing to do with which tracks were selected. One could perform an action like Hide selected tracks or Make selected tracks inactive while an insertion cursor was located in an unrelated track. Now, it's possible, within the preferences, to have the insertion cursor determine which track is currently selected but, again, that kind of selection has to do with the ability to do things like deleting the track itself, making it active or inactive to free up voices, performing global actions to that track along with other selected tracks while making a selection within a track differs in that it has to do with a start and end point. Hope that makes it a bit clearer. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:43 AM, clarence griffin wrote: thanks, that's wassup... I tried the plus / minus by its self, and it does move the counter/play head, but how do I make sure nothing is selected? there always seams to be something selected... GF On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey GF. With a keyboard with the numeric keypad, use option shift plus or minus to expand and contract the left edge of the selection, and shift command plus or minus to expand/contract the right half of the selection. Use option command plus minus to increase or decrease the nudge value. You can get it down to 64 ticks. When no data is selected, simply use plus or minus to move the play head by the nudge amount. Once you have it where you want it, then you can use down and up arrows to make your selection. If you want to nudge your selected of audio, hit command E to make a new region out of the selected content. hit plus or minus on their own to nudge the whole region. Hope this helps a bit. Reeves
Re: 2 things
I don't know of any plug-in that has a look-ahead feature like that. There probably is something out there like that but I'm not aware of it. The slowing down effect you're looking for can be done in Serato Pitch-n-time. I haven't used it in 8.0.4 yet so I'm not sure if it's accessible. Elastic Audio probably does the same thing but that interface is almost purely visual and I don't know how it's going to be made accessible. Sorry, not much help, I'm afraid. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 5:24 PM, clarence griffin wrote: Ok, here's 2 things I want to see if I can do with PT. 1. I want to duck down a bed so I can talk over it. I already know how to do the trick with a compressor and the side chaining deal. The only thing with that is I want the bed to duck down before I start talking, the compressor won't let me do a look ahead like that, well not the default one. 2. Is there a plugin or effect that will allow me to do the equivalent of a tape stop, or a record brake? I want to be able to do that for some cool production fx. Any ideas on this stuff? Thanks. GF
Re: 2 things ducking work around
Hi GF, Quick fix! for ducking your track. Just record your voc along side your bed in a separate track then automate the bed to duck it down when you want. If this is not a live thing this will work. I did this for my SPR web demo years ago and it sounds just like the ducky! Talk soon On Jul 19, 2010, at 6:14 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: I don't know of any plug-in that has a look-ahead feature like that. There probably is something out there like that but I'm not aware of it. The slowing down effect you're looking for can be done in Serato Pitch-n-time. I haven't used it in 8.0.4 yet so I'm not sure if it's accessible. Elastic Audio probably does the same thing but that interface is almost purely visual and I don't know how it's going to be made accessible. Sorry, not much help, I'm afraid. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 5:24 PM, clarence griffin wrote: Ok, here's 2 things I want to see if I can do with PT. 1. I want to duck down a bed so I can talk over it. I already know how to do the trick with a compressor and the side chaining deal. The only thing with that is I want the bed to duck down before I start talking, the compressor won't let me do a look ahead like that, well not the default one. 2. Is there a plugin or effect that will allow me to do the equivalent of a tape stop, or a record brake? I want to be able to do that for some cool production fx. Any ideas on this stuff? Thanks. GF Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
Re: 2 things ducking work around
I think what Chuck is talking about is duplicating the original track, taking the duplicated track and moving it ahead by, say, 1.5 seconds or so, making sure the output is routed to nothing. Take a compressor and use the sidechain from the time-shifted voice track to trigger while the original vocal is heard. Make sense? Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 6:21 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi GF, Quick fix! for ducking your track. Just record your voc along side your bed in a separate track then automate the bed to duck it down when you want. If this is not a live thing this will work. I did this for my SPR web demo years ago and it sounds just like the ducky! Talk soon On Jul 19, 2010, at 6:14 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: I don't know of any plug-in that has a look-ahead feature like that. There probably is something out there like that but I'm not aware of it. The slowing down effect you're looking for can be done in Serato Pitch-n-time. I haven't used it in 8.0.4 yet so I'm not sure if it's accessible. Elastic Audio probably does the same thing but that interface is almost purely visual and I don't know how it's going to be made accessible. Sorry, not much help, I'm afraid. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 5:24 PM, clarence griffin wrote: Ok, here's 2 things I want to see if I can do with PT. 1. I want to duck down a bed so I can talk over it. I already know how to do the trick with a compressor and the side chaining deal. The only thing with that is I want the bed to duck down before I start talking, the compressor won't let me do a look ahead like that, well not the default one. 2. Is there a plugin or effect that will allow me to do the equivalent of a tape stop, or a record brake? I want to be able to do that for some cool production fx. Any ideas on this stuff? Thanks. GF Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
Re: 2 things ducking work around
ah, I will try that and let you guys know how it works. GF On Jul 19, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: I think what Chuck is talking about is duplicating the original track, taking the duplicated track and moving it ahead by, say, 1.5 seconds or so, making sure the output is routed to nothing. Take a compressor and use the sidechain from the time-shifted voice track to trigger while the original vocal is heard. Make sense? Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 6:21 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi GF, Quick fix! for ducking your track. Just record your voc along side your bed in a separate track then automate the bed to duck it down when you want. If this is not a live thing this will work. I did this for my SPR web demo years ago and it sounds just like the ducky! Talk soon On Jul 19, 2010, at 6:14 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: I don't know of any plug-in that has a look-ahead feature like that. There probably is something out there like that but I'm not aware of it. The slowing down effect you're looking for can be done in Serato Pitch-n-time. I haven't used it in 8.0.4 yet so I'm not sure if it's accessible. Elastic Audio probably does the same thing but that interface is almost purely visual and I don't know how it's going to be made accessible. Sorry, not much help, I'm afraid. Slau On Jul 19, 2010, at 5:24 PM, clarence griffin wrote: Ok, here's 2 things I want to see if I can do with PT. 1. I want to duck down a bed so I can talk over it. I already know how to do the trick with a compressor and the side chaining deal. The only thing with that is I want the bed to duck down before I start talking, the compressor won't let me do a look ahead like that, well not the default one. 2. Is there a plugin or effect that will allow me to do the equivalent of a tape stop, or a record brake? I want to be able to do that for some cool production fx. Any ideas on this stuff? Thanks. GF Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
Re: 2 things
where can I find this Serato Pitch-n-time. thing? I will check it out. GF On Jul 19, 2010, at 6:14 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Serato Pitch-n-time.
