Re: protools 2018-12 and mohave

[Slau Halatyn]

Byron responded to your message. Here's his message again:
Great day Adrian, my name is Byron Harden and I am the owner and director of I 
See Music llc, which is a company that trains the blind in audio production as 
it pertains to adaptive technology and techniques. We have a virtual training 
specifically dealing with Pro Tools and Reaper for the blind. I will post a 
link to our web site for your convenience and if you have any questions, please 
don’t hesitate to reach out to me directly. Phone +1(312)(810)-1001 email info; 
iseemusic...@gmail.com 

www.iseemusic.org 

> On Dec 28, 2018, at 2:31 PM,  >  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I am new in music recording, and needs guidance in terms of software and work 
> with it as a blind person.
>  
> First, I would like to ask which version of ProTools to buy?
> I have a Mac book Air 2015 with I5 and 8GB ram. 
> It is running Mojabe but I can downgrade if is the case to High Sierra. 
> I am looking to start music and sound production from September at 
> Bournemouth University UK, and needs a bit of preparation for that. 
> I have an audio interface from Audient but an audio mixer Soundcraft 
> Signature 10 and a couple of good condenser studio mics
> Do you think it is OK for start?
> . 
> What about flowtools scripts?
>  
> Thanks for your answers. 
> I found some old videos on Youtube about Protools with Mac but the web site 
> Protools with speech where the videos are pointing you to is not online any 
> longer. 
> It is any blind user available to provide a training course one to one for 
> newbies?
> I know, I have no espectation to learn everything in terms of mixing and 
> other advanced staf but at list to understand the basics and probably to be 
> able to record a very simple song.
>  
> Thanks for your answers.
>  
> Adrian Tamasan
>  
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Steve Martin
> Sent: 22 December 2018 14:34
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: protools 2018-12 and mohave
>  
> Neither Logic nor Pro Tools uses VST. Pro Tools uses a format known as AAX 
> and Logic uses a Format known as AU or AudioUnit. Most plug in vendors that 
> make a VST will have an AAX or AU version of their plug in. Reaper is 
> accessible on both Mac and windows and will let you use VST’s. On Windows you 
> can use Samplitude as well.
>  
> 
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2018, at 1:59 AM, Phil Muir > > wrote:
>>  
>> Pro Tools is only accessible for us on the Mac using Mac OS. It doesn't work 
>> with VST instruments but instead uses it's own format. If you want to use 
>> VST instruments then you will need to either stay in Windows and use 
>> Samplitude or Reaper or use compatible VST instruments on the Mac using 
>> Logic. There are definitely more free VST instruments on the Windows side 
>> than there are on the Mac.
>> 
>> On 22 December 2018 07:41:05 GMT, dingram...@earthlink.net 
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
 From: John André Lium-Netland >>> >
 Sent: Dec 21, 2018 5:42 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: Re: protools 2018-12 and mohave
 
 Hi, 
 
 As far as I know, it’s not a problem to install an earlier version of the 
 OS when a new machine has arrived… At least not the most recent previous 
 system. It’s available in the App Store. Maybe it’s also possible to 
 simply restart the machine in recover mode and access the installer for a 
 previous system from there?
 
 Best,
 John André
  
 On 21 Dec 2018, at 19:51, Jesse Kragiel >>> > wrote:
 
 I don't do anything commercial with it, but if I did, and my system was 
 functioning amazingly and stable using an older OS, I wouldn't change it. 
 The issue is that the new Macs are all coming with Mojave preinstalled, so 
 people buying these systems will just have to be patient while Avid gets 
 things working correctly. Pro Tools is simply the easiest for Voiceover 
 users to get their heads around, so it'$ just gonna be a thing for us. 
 Fortunately, there's no real reason to update to Mojave. It adds no 
 accessibility functionality.
 
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RE: protools 2018-12 and mohave

[accessiblecomputer]

Hi,

I don’t know who is Byron, but if you have contact details you can pass them on 
privat to me, if is not too much.

Thanks in advance.

 

Adrian Tamasan

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Slau 
Halatyn
Sent: 29 December 2018 13:10
To: PTAccess List 
Subject: Re: protools 2018-12 and mohave

 

I'd encourage speaking with Byron about Pro Tools training and would also 
probably recommend waiting a bit before learning Flo Tools commands. Learn the 
way Pro Tools works out of the box and then supplementing it with Flo Tools 
will turbo charge your experience. Apart from that, the specs you mentioned are 
on the low side and I'm not sure how much performance you'll get out of it but 
it's at least a starting point.

HTH,

Slau

 

On Dec 28, 2018, at 3:31 PM, accessiblecompu...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

 

Hi,

I am new in music recording, and needs guidance in terms of software and work 
with it as a blind person.

 

First, I would like to ask which version of ProTools to buy?

I have a Mac book Air 2015 with I5 and 8GB ram. 

It is running Mojabe but I can downgrade if is the case to High Sierra. 

I am looking to start music and sound production from September at Bournemouth 
University UK, and needs a bit of preparation for that. 

I have an audio interface from Audient but an audio mixer Soundcraft Signature 
10 and a couple of good condenser studio mics

Do you think it is OK for start?

. 

What about flowtools scripts?

 

Thanks for your answers. 

I found some old videos on Youtube about Protools with Mac but the web site 
Protools with speech where the videos are pointing you to is not online any 
longer. 

It is any blind user available to provide a training course one to one for 
newbies?

I know, I have no espectation to learn everything in terms of mixing and other 
advanced staf but at list to understand the basics and probably to be able to 
record a very simple song.

 

Thanks for your answers.

 

Adrian Tamasan

 

From:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com < 
 ptaccess@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Steve Martin
Sent: 22 December 2018 14:34
To:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: protools 2018-12 and mohave

 

Neither Logic nor Pro Tools uses VST. Pro Tools uses a format known as AAX and 
Logic uses a Format known as AU or AudioUnit. Most plug in vendors that make a 
VST will have an AAX or AU version of their plug in. Reaper is accessible on 
both Mac and windows and will let you use VST’s. On Windows you can use 
Samplitude as well.

 






On Dec 22, 2018, at 1:59 AM, Phil Muir < 
 i...@accessibilitytraining.co.uk> 
wrote:

 

Pro Tools is only accessible for us on the Mac using Mac OS. It doesn't work 
with VST instruments but instead uses it's own format. If you want to use VST 
instruments then you will need to either stay in Windows and use Samplitude or 
Reaper or use compatible VST instruments on the Mac using Logic. There are 
definitely more free VST instruments on the Windows side than there are on the 
Mac.

On 22 December 2018 07:41:05 GMT,   
dingram...@earthlink.net wrote:




-Original Message-

From: John André Lium-Netland <  
eml...@a-pro-studio.no>
Sent: Dec 21, 2018 5:42 PM
To:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: protools 2018-12 and mohave

Hi, 

As far as I know, it’s not a problem to install an earlier version of the OS 
when a new machine has arrived… At least not the most recent previous system. 
It’s available in the App Store. Maybe it’s also possible to simply restart the 
machine in recover mode and access the installer for a previous system from 
there?

Best,
John André
 
On 21 Dec 2018, at 19:51, Jesse Kragiel <  
jessekrag...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't do anything commercial with it, but if I did, and my system was 
functioning amazingly and stable using an older OS, I wouldn't change it. The 
issue is that the new Macs are all coming with Mojave preinstalled, so people 
buying these systems will just have to be patient while Avid gets things 
working correctly. Pro Tools is simply the easiest for Voiceover users to get 
their heads around, so it'$ just gonna be a thing for us. Fortunately, there's 
no real reason to update to Mojave. It adds no accessibility functionality.

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Re: A feature request for Flotools

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Victor,
Not that I necessarily have to apologize for the ignorant comments of others 
but sorry you and others have to witness the small-minded comments of Chuck on 
the subject of Flo Tools. The fact of the matter is that all but a few blind 
Pro Tools users use Flo Tools for obvious reasons. What's more, Avid has 
whole-heartedly supported our efforts and we have had overwhelmingly positive 
feedback from the community. I personally am not witness to Chuck's clueless 
digs against Flo Tools because years ago I created a Mail rule to route his 
messages directly to the trash. It's only when others send me private messages 
off list to poke fun at him that I'm alerted to his attempts at knocking the 
work that we do that I get to roll my eyes along with everybody else. What 
Chuck doesn't take into account is that I can easily remove him from this list 
and could do so at any moment. If he continues to bash Flo Tools and the 
contribution that it has made to make Pro Tools more efficient for blind users, 
he'll soon find himself off the email list and whether that happens, despite 
being up to me, is also his choice.
Best,
slau

> On Dec 28, 2018, at 8:29 PM, Victor Tsaran  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> I hope it's OK to post feature requests for Flotools, if for no other reason 
> than to generate some discussion. :)
> I recently got a project with quite a few tracks, groupsand who knows what 
> else!
> This made me think that it would be really cool if Flotools had a "project 
> summary" feature where, with a press of a single keystroke one could find out:
> 1. How many tracks, groups, instruments, buses, are in this project?
> 2. What is their state?
> 3. What is the tempo and key of this project?
> 4. Anything else others would recommend?
> 
> Thoughts?
> Vic
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: A feature request for Flotools

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Victor,
do your self a favor and learn "Pro Tools"
Not fake tools that will break with every new release of Pro  tools!
Anybody remember "QuickKeys"? :(

YMMV
Chuck


On Dec 28, 2018, at 8:29 PM, Victor Tsaran wrote:

> Hi.
> I hope it's OK to post feature requests for Flotools, if for no other reason 
> than to generate some discussion. :)
> I recently got a project with quite a few tracks, groupsand who knows what 
> else!
> This made me think that it would be really cool if Flotools had a "project 
> summary" feature where, with a press of a single keystroke one could find out:
> 1. How many tracks, groups, instruments, buses, are in this project?
> 2. What is their state?
> 3. What is the tempo and key of this project?
> 4. Anything else others would recommend?
> 
> Thoughts?
> Vic
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: protools 2018-12 and mohave

[Slau Halatyn]

I'd encourage speaking with Byron about Pro Tools training and would also 
probably recommend waiting a bit before learning Flo Tools commands. Learn the 
way Pro Tools works out of the box and then supplementing it with Flo Tools 
will turbo charge your experience. Apart from that, the specs you mentioned are 
on the low side and I'm not sure how much performance you'll get out of it but 
it's at least a starting point.
HTH,
Slau

> On Dec 28, 2018, at 3:31 PM, accessiblecompu...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I am new in music recording, and needs guidance in terms of software and work 
> with it as a blind person.
>  
> First, I would like to ask which version of ProTools to buy?
> I have a Mac book Air 2015 with I5 and 8GB ram. 
> It is running Mojabe but I can downgrade if is the case to High Sierra. 
> I am looking to start music and sound production from September at 
> Bournemouth University UK, and needs a bit of preparation for that. 
> I have an audio interface from Audient but an audio mixer Soundcraft 
> Signature 10 and a couple of good condenser studio mics
> Do you think it is OK for start?
> . 
> What about flowtools scripts?
>  
> Thanks for your answers. 
> I found some old videos on Youtube about Protools with Mac but the web site 
> Protools with speech where the videos are pointing you to is not online any 
> longer. 
> It is any blind user available to provide a training course one to one for 
> newbies?
> I know, I have no espectation to learn everything in terms of mixing and 
> other advanced staf but at list to understand the basics and probably to be 
> able to record a very simple song.
>  
> Thanks for your answers.
>  
> Adrian Tamasan
>  
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Steve Martin
> Sent: 22 December 2018 14:34
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: protools 2018-12 and mohave
>  
> Neither Logic nor Pro Tools uses VST. Pro Tools uses a format known as AAX 
> and Logic uses a Format known as AU or AudioUnit. Most plug in vendors that 
> make a VST will have an AAX or AU version of their plug in. Reaper is 
> accessible on both Mac and windows and will let you use VST’s. On Windows you 
> can use Samplitude as well.
>  
> 
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2018, at 1:59 AM, Phil Muir > > wrote:
>>  
>> Pro Tools is only accessible for us on the Mac using Mac OS. It doesn't work 
>> with VST instruments but instead uses it's own format. If you want to use 
>> VST instruments then you will need to either stay in Windows and use 
>> Samplitude or Reaper or use compatible VST instruments on the Mac using 
>> Logic. There are definitely more free VST instruments on the Windows side 
>> than there are on the Mac.
>> 
>> On 22 December 2018 07:41:05 GMT, dingram...@earthlink.net 
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
 From: John André Lium-Netland >>> >
 Sent: Dec 21, 2018 5:42 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: Re: protools 2018-12 and mohave
 
 Hi, 
 
 As far as I know, it’s not a problem to install an earlier version of the 
 OS when a new machine has arrived… At least not the most recent previous 
 system. It’s available in the App Store. Maybe it’s also possible to 
 simply restart the machine in recover mode and access the installer for a 
 previous system from there?
 
 Best,
 John André
  
 On 21 Dec 2018, at 19:51, Jesse Kragiel >>> > wrote:
 
 I don't do anything commercial with it, but if I did, and my system was 
 functioning amazingly and stable using an older OS, I wouldn't change it. 
 The issue is that the new Macs are all coming with Mojave preinstalled, so 
 people buying these systems will just have to be patient while Avid gets 
 things working correctly. Pro Tools is simply the easiest for Voiceover 
 users to get their heads around, so it'$ just gonna be a thing for us. 
 Fortunately, there's no real reason to update to Mojave. It adds no 
 accessibility functionality.
 
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Re: A feature request for Flotools

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Victor,
Efficiency is what Flo Tools is all about and it's an idea that's been 
discussed once or twice. I think the challenge is that, to do such a thing with 
one keystroke is problematic because people want to hear what they want to hear 
and nothing else while others want something different and it's quite 
difficult, rather Impossible, to satisfy everybody. Of course, Flo Tools does 
have commands for saying which tracks are shown, which are hidden and which are 
selected in addition to what the current tempo is. Identifying which busses are 
being used is perhaps possible but not a guaranteed result if any tracks are 
hidden. Naturally, if a track is hidden, one can't possibly know what busses 
are being used. Sighted users can spend minutes looking through a session to 
figure out what's going on and, as a picture is worth a thousand words, putting 
all of this information into a logical sequence would take an enormous amount 
of work. That doesn't mean we might not add something in the future. In the 
mean time, you can use the Tracks List pop-up button to show only audio tracks, 
aux tracks, instrument tracks, etc. and still use Option+Command+w to speak the 
names and number of those types of tracks being shown. In the future, we might 
have some deeper integration with Pro Tools that will give us access to more 
information directly rather than necessarily going through the UI. Too early to 
say anything more about that but thanks for the input and we'll always try to 
help make the experience more efficient and productive.
Cheers,
Slau

> On Dec 28, 2018, at 8:29 PM, Victor Tsaran  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> I hope it's OK to post feature requests for Flotools, if for no other reason 
> than to generate some discussion. :)
> I recently got a project with quite a few tracks, groupsand who knows what 
> else!
> This made me think that it would be really cool if Flotools had a "project 
> summary" feature where, with a press of a single keystroke one could find out:
> 1. How many tracks, groups, instruments, buses, are in this project?
> 2. What is their state?
> 3. What is the tempo and key of this project?
> 4. Anything else others would recommend?
> 
> Thoughts?
> Vic
> 
> 
> 
> 
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