ANN: SfePy 2012.4
I am pleased to announce release 2012.4 of SfePy. Description --- SfePy (simple finite elements in Python) is a software for solving systems of coupled partial differential equations by the finite element method. The code is based on NumPy and SciPy packages. It is distributed under the new BSD license. Home page: http://sfepy.org Downloads, mailing list, wiki: http://code.google.com/p/sfepy/ Git (source) repository, issue tracker: http://github.com/sfepy Highlights of this release -- - initial support for hierarchical basis on quadrilateral and brick elements - unified C/Cython structures for reference mappings - new linear combination boundary condition: edge direction - new examples showing some advanced features For full release notes see http://docs.sfepy.org/doc/release_notes.html#id1 (rather long and technical). Best regards, Robert Cimrman and Contributors (*) (*) Contributors to this release (alphabetical order): Bjarke Dalslet, Vladimír Lukeš, Matyáš Novák -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations/
PyPy 2.0 beta 1 released
We're pleased to announce the 2.0 beta 1 release of PyPy. This release is not a typical beta, in a sense the stability is the same or better than 1.9 and can be used in production. It does however include a few performance regressions documented below that don't allow us to label is as 2.0 final. (It also contains many performance improvements.) The main features of this release are support for ARM processor and compatibility with CFFI. It also includes numerous improvements to the numpy in pypy effort, cpyext and performance. You can download the PyPy 2.0 beta 1 release here: http://pypy.org/download.html What is PyPy? = PyPy is a very compliant Python interpreter, almost a drop-in replacement for CPython 2.7.3. It's fast (`pypy 2.0 beta 1 and cpython 2.7.3`_ performance comparison) due to its integrated tracing JIT compiler. This release supports x86 machines running Linux 32/64, Mac OS X 64 or Windows 32. It also supports ARM machines running Linux. Windows 64 work is still stalling, we would welcome a volunteer to handle that. .. _`pypy 2.0 beta 1 and cpython 2.7.3`: http://bit.ly/USXqpP How to use PyPy? We suggest using PyPy from a `virtualenv`_. Once you have a virtualenv installed, you can follow instructions from `pypy documentation`_ on how to proceed. This document also covers other `installation schemes`_. .. _`pypy documentation`: http://doc.pypy.org/en/latest/getting-started.html#installing-using-virtualenv .. _`virtualenv`: http://www.virtualenv.org/en/latest/ .. _`installation schemes`: http://doc.pypy.org/en/latest/getting-started.html#installing-pypy .. _`PyPy and pip`: http://doc.pypy.org/en/latest/getting-started.html#installing-pypy Regressions === Reasons why this is not PyPy 2.0: * the ``ctypes`` fast path is now slower than it used to be. In PyPy 1.9 ``ctypes`` was either incredibly faster or slower than CPython depending whether you hit the fast path or not. Right now it's usually simply slower. We're probably going to rewrite ``ctypes`` using ``cffi``, which will make it universally faster. * ``cffi`` (an alternative to interfacing with C code) is very fast, but it is missing one optimization that will make it as fast as a native call from C. * ``numpypy`` lazy computation was disabled for the sake of simplicity. We should reenable this for the final 2.0 release. Highlights == * ``cffi`` is officially supported by PyPy. You can install it normally by using ``pip install cffi`` once you have installed `PyPy and pip`_. The corresponding ``0.4`` version of ``cffi`` has been released. * ARM is now an officially supported processor architecture. PyPy now work on soft-float ARM/Linux builds. Currently ARM processors supporting the ARMv7 and later ISA that include a floating-point unit are supported. * This release contains the latest Python standard library 2.7.3 and is fully compatible with Python 2.7.3. * It does not however contain hash randomization, since the solution present in CPython is not solving the problem anyway. The reason can be found on the `CPython issue tracker`_. * ``gc.get_referrers()`` is now faster. * Various numpy improvements. The list includes: * axis argument support in many places * full support for fancy indexing * ``complex128`` and ``complex64`` dtypes * `JIT hooks`_ are now a powerful tool to introspect the JITting process that PyPy performs. * ``**kwds`` usage is much faster in the typical scenario * operations on ``long`` objects are now as fast as in CPython (from roughly 2x slower) * We now have special strategies for ``dict``/``set``/``list`` which contain unicode strings, which means that now such collections will be both faster and more compact. .. _`cpython issue tracker`: http://bugs.python.org/issue14621 .. _`jit hooks`: http://doc.pypy.org/en/latest/jit-hooks.html Things we're working on === There are a few things that did not make it to the 2.0 beta 1, which are being actively worked on. Greenlets support in the JIT is one that we would like to have before 2.0 final. Two important items that will not make it to 2.0, but are being actively worked on, are: * Faster JIT warmup time. * Software Transactional Memory. Cheers, Maciej Fijalkowski, Armin Rigo and the PyPy team -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations/
Re: mysql insert with tuple
Am Mittwoch, 21. November 2012 20:49:14 UTC+1 schrieb Hans Mulder:
On 21/11/12 18:19:15, Christian wrote:
Hi ,
my purpose is a generic insert via tuple , because the number of fields
and can differ. But I'm stucking .
ilist=['hello',None,7,None,None]
#This version works, but all varchar fields are in extra '' enclosed.
con.execute( INSERT INTO {} VALUES %r; .format(table) ,
(tuple(ilist),))
#This produce (1054, Unknown column 'None' in 'field list'),
#but without None values it works.
con.execute( INSERT INTO {} VALUES %r; .format(table) %
(tuple(ilist),))
How about:
con.execute(INSERT INTO {} VALUES ({})
.format(table, ,.join(%s for _ in ilist)), ilist)
Or perhaps break it down into smaller steps:
bind_variables = ,.join(%s for _ in ilist))
query = INSERT INTO {} VALUES ({}).format(table, bind_variables)
con.execute(query, ilist)
Hope this helps,
-- HansM
Thank you both!. However, for future issues I'll take Chris advise about a ORM
into account . It's only a sort of data crunching (offline), so SQL Injection
isn't a problem.
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Re: Inconsistent behaviour os str.find/str.index when providing optional parameters
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 23:01:47 -0800, Giacomo Alzetta wrote:
Il giorno giovedì 22 novembre 2012 05:00:39 UTC+1, MRAB ha scritto:
On 2012-11-22 03:41, Terry Reedy wrote: It can't return 5 because 5
isn't an index in 'spam'.
It can't return 4 because 4 is below the start index.
Uhm. Maybe you are right, because returning a greater value would cause
an IndexError, but then, *why* is 4 returned???
'spam'.find('', 4)
4
'spam'[4]
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in module
IndexError: string index out of range
4 is not a valid index either. I do not think the behaviour was
completely intentional.
The behaviour is certainly an edge case, but I think it is correct.
(Correct or not, it has been the same going all the way back to Python
1.5, before strings even had methods, so it almost certainly will not be
changed. Changing the behaviour now will very likely break hundreds,
maybe thousands, of Python programs that expect the current behaviour.)
Consider your string as a sequence of boxes, with index positions
labelled above the string:
0-1-2-3-4
|s|p|a|m|
The indexing model is that positions represent where you would cut
*between* characters, not the character itself. Slices are the substring
between cuts:
spam[1:3] = pa
while single indexes return the character to the right of the cut:
spam[1] = p
If there is no character to the right of the cut, indexing raises an
error.
Now, consider spam.find(substring, start). This should return the
number of the first cut immediately to the left of the substring,
beginning the search at cut #start.
spam.find(pa, 1) = 1
because cut #1 is immediately to the left of pa at index 1.
By this logic, spam.find(, 4) should return 4, because cut #4 is
immediately to the left of the empty string. So Python's current
behaviour is justified.
What about spam.find(, 5)? Well, if you look at the string with the
cuts marked as before:
0-1-2-3-4
|s|p|a|m|
you will see that there is no cut #5. Since there is no cut #5, we can't
sensibly say we found *anything* there, not even the empty string. If you
have four boxes, you can't say that you found anything in the fifth box.
I realise that this behaviour clashes somewhat with the slicing rule that
says that if the slice indexes go past the end of the string, you get an
empty string. But that rule is more for convenience than a fundamental
rule about strings.
I think there is legitimate room for disagreement about the right
behaviour here, but backwards compatibility trumps logical correctness
here, and it is very unlikely to be changed.
The docstring does not describe this edge case, so I think it could be
improved. If the first sentence(being an index in S) is kept, than it
shouldn't say that start and end are treated as in slice notation,
because that's actually not true.
+1
I think that you are right that the documentation needs to be improved.
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Re: Constructing JSON data structures from non-string key python dictionaries
Am 21.11.2012 17:04, schrieb hfo...@gmail.com: Thanks for your reply, but the javascript function expects option names to be unquoted, otherwise it won't work. Others have shown you how to solve this, but I would like to note that the function does NOT expect JSON but a simple javascript object literal. cheers Paul -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web Frameworks Excessive Complexity
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:49:52PM -0800, rh wrote: wheezy + myvirtualenv = 3.3MB pyramid = 92MB $ mkvirtualenv --no-site-packages -p python2.7 pyramid $ pip install -U distribute $ pip install pyramid $ du -h .virtualenvs/pyramid 22M .virtualenvs/pyramid $ du -s .virtualenvs/pyramid/lib/python2.7/site-packages/* | sort -n | tail -n 5 728 .virtualenvs/pyramid/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip-1.1-py2.7.egg 1556.virtualenvs/pyramid/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools 1724.virtualenvs/pyramid/lib/python2.7/site-packages/zope 2044.virtualenvs/pyramid/lib/python2.7/site-packages/chameleon 6312.virtualenvs/pyramid/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pyramid I think 22 MB are OK given the functionality Pyramid has to offer. Just my 2 cents, Thomas. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Update slider widget range
On 21/11/2012 13:59, moadeep wrote: I am trying to write a small bit of code that interactively deletes selected slices in an image series using matplotlib. I have created a button 'delete' which stores a number of indices to be deleted when the button 'update' is selected. However, I am currently unable to reset the range of my slider widget, i.e. removing the number of deleted slices from valmax. What is the pythonic solution to this problem? self.nframes = len(self.raw_dicom_stack) If I've read your intentions correctly the line above should read self.slider.valmax = len(self.raw_dicom_stack) If I'm wrong then please ask on the matplotlib users mailing list or possibly stackoverflow. -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Suitable software stacks for simple python web service
Dieter Maurer wrote: snip From your description (so far), you would not need a web framework but could use any way to integrate Python scripts into a web server, e.g. mod_python, cgi, WSGI, Check what ways your web server will suport. Hello Dieter Thanks for your comment. I certainly want a lightweight solution so CGI or one of the micro-frameworks are what I am considering. Cheers Kev -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple Question regarding running .py program
Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: [1] OK, so I'm am annoyed with them after my Google phone updated to Android 4.2 this afternoon and the lock-screen clock is now _physically_painful_ to look at. However, I'm convinced that's not evil -- just a complete and utter lack of visual design ability. You can select any other lock screen widget as the default, so why not download some more widgets from Play and choose something different. e.g. Beautiful Clock Widgets or HD Widgets but there are probably others. To change the default lockscreen widget swipe left from the lockscreen until you get to a page with only a '+', add the new widget there, then long press that widget and drag it to be the rightmost page. Then you should be sorted just so long as you don't have any friends with December birthdays. -- Duncan Booth http://kupuguy.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Yet another Python textbook
From Yet another Python textbook
On 21/11/2012 5:17 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 4:03 AM, Colin J. Williams c...@ncf.ca wrote:
On 20/11/2012 4:00 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
To the OP: jmf has an unnatural hatred of Python 3.3 and PEP 393
strings. Take no notice; the rest of the world sees this as a huge
advantage. Python is now in a VERY small group of languages (I'm aware
of just one other) that have absolutely proper Unicode handling *and*
efficient string handling.
ChrisA
It's interesting to see that someone else finds the format function to be a
pain. Perhaps the problem lies with the documentation.
Hang on, what? I'm not sure where the format function comes in. I was
referring to the underlying representation.
The OP wrote:
The absurd flexible string representation has practically
borrowed the idea to propose once Python has a teaching tool.
I perhaps stretched this to refer specifically on one aspect, formatting
in my comment.
That said, though, I'm just glad that %-formatting is staying. It's an
extremely expressive string formatting method, and exists in many
languages (thanks to C's heritage). Pike's version is insanely
powerful, Python's is more like C's, but all three are compact and
convenient.
str.format(), on the other hand, is flexible. It strikes me as rather
more complicated than a string formatting function needs to be, but
that may be a cost of its flexibility.
ChrisA
Yes is is complicated.
From my reading of the docs, it seems to me that the three following
should be equivalent:
(a) formattingStr.format(values)
with
(b) format(values, formattingStr)
or
(c) tupleOfValues.__format__(formattingStr
Example:
print('{:-^14f}{:^14d}'.format(-25.61, 95 ))
print(format((-25.61, 95), '{:-^14f}{:^14d}'))
(-25.61, 95 ).__format__('{:-^14f}{:^14d}')
The second fails, perhaps because values can only be a single value.
The third fails, the reason is unclear.
Steven D'Aprano earlier said that a better diagnostic tool is planned
for Python 3.4.
Should we retreat to %-formatting for now?
Colin W.
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method that can be called from a class and also from an instance
Hi, I want to create a method within a class that is able to accept either a class or an instance. class MyClass(object): @magic_decorator def method(param): # param can be MyClass (cls) or an instance of MyClass (self) so I can do something like: instance = MyClass() MyClass.method() instance.method() I guess the way to go is implementing a custom decorator (@magic_decorator in my example), but, how can I know if the method has been called from the class o from an instance? Thank you very much!! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: method that can be called from a class and also from an instance
Marc Aymerich wrote: Hi, I want to create a method within a class that is able to accept either a class or an instance. class MyClass(object): @magic_decorator def method(param): # param can be MyClass (cls) or an instance of MyClass (self) so I can do something like: instance = MyClass() MyClass.method() instance.method() I guess the way to go is implementing a custom decorator (@magic_decorator in my example), but, how can I know if the method has been called from the class o from an instance? Thank you very much!! Why would you overload a method that way? $ cat class_or_inst.py import functools class desc(object): def __init__(self, f): self._f = f def __get__(self, inst=None, class_=None): if inst is not None: return functools.partial(self._f, self=inst) elif class_ is not None: return functools.partial(self._f, class_=class_) raise TypeError(nobody expects the Spanish inquisition) class A(object): @desc def f(self=None, class_=None): if self is not None: return instance elif class_ is not None: return class return unknown $ python -i class_or_inst.py A.f() 'class' A().f() 'instance' A.__dict__[f].__get__() Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module File class_or_inst.py, line 11, in __get__ raise TypeError(nobody expects the Spanish inquisition) TypeError: nobody expects the Spanish inquisition -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: method that can be called from a class and also from an instance
On 11/22/2012 10:14 AM, Marc Aymerich wrote: Hi, I want to create a method within a class that is able to accept either a class or an instance. class MyClass(object): @magic_decorator def method(param): # param can be MyClass (cls) or an instance of MyClass (self) so I can do something like: instance = MyClass() MyClass.method() instance.method() I guess the way to go is implementing a custom decorator (@magic_decorator in my example), but, how can I know if the method has been called from the class o from an instance? Thank you very much!! I haven't tried it, but how about if you do a @classmethod decorator, and then just use isinstance(param, MyClass) ? -- DaveA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: method that can be called from a class and also from an instance
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:52:56AM -0500, Dave Angel wrote: On 11/22/2012 10:14 AM, Marc Aymerich wrote: I want to create a method within a class that is able to accept either a class or an instance. I haven't tried it, but how about if you do a @classmethod decorator, and then just use isinstance(param, MyClass) ? This won't work: In [22]: class Foo(object): : @classmethod : def bar(cls): : print repr(cls) : In [23]: Foo.bar() class '__main__.Foo' In [24]: Foo().bar() class '__main__.Foo' Actually help(classmethod) explicitly says so: quote It can be called either on the class (e.g. C.f()) or on an instance (e.g. C().f()). The instance is ignored except for its class. /quote I think the way to go is via the descriptor protocol[1] as suggested by Peter. Regards, Thomas. Footnotes: [1] http://docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: method that can be called from a class and also from an instance
On 11/22/2012 11:12 AM, Thomas Bach wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:52:56AM -0500, Dave Angel wrote: On 11/22/2012 10:14 AM, Marc Aymerich wrote: I want to create a method within a class that is able to accept either a class or an instance. I haven't tried it, but how about if you do a @classmethod decorator, and then just use isinstance(param, MyClass) ? This won't work: In [22]: class Foo(object): : @classmethod : def bar(cls): : print repr(cls) : In [23]: Foo.bar() class '__main__.Foo' In [24]: Foo().bar() class '__main__.Foo' Actually help(classmethod) explicitly says so: quote It can be called either on the class (e.g. C.f()) or on an instance (e.g. C().f()). The instance is ignored except for its class. /quote OK, thanks. I hadn't tried it, and hadn't noticed that that decorator converts to the class. I think the way to go is via the descriptor protocol[1] as suggested by Peter. Regards, Thomas. Footnotes: [1] http://docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html The OP should probably use this link instead, since he's not using Python 3. http://docs.python.org/2.7/howto/descriptor.html Marc: I believe the descriptor stuff has changed in Python 3; I don't use it. But if you've got to do this, and you have to do it in Python 2.x, you'd better use the 2.x documentation. -- DaveA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: method that can be called from a class and also from an instance
On Thursday, November 22, 2012 4:51:30 PM UTC+1, Peter Otten wrote: Marc Aymerich wrote: Hi, I want to create a method within a class that is able to accept either a class or an instance. class MyClass(object): @magic_decorator def method(param): # param can be MyClass (cls) or an instance of MyClass (self) so I can do something like: instance = MyClass() MyClass.method() instance.method() I guess the way to go is implementing a custom decorator (@magic_decorator in my example), but, how can I know if the method has been called from the class o from an instance? Thank you very much!! Why would you overload a method that way? Yep, it's an strange pattern sure it can be done in a better way but this is the best I can think on, the context is: I'm developing a permission system which can give general permissions for a given class and also specific permissions for a given object. class Node(object): @role def has_perm(instance, user) if is_class(instance): then global perm for user... else: then specific perm for user... $ cat class_or_inst.py import functools class desc(object): def __init__(self, f): self._f = f def __get__(self, inst=None, class_=None): if inst is not None: return functools.partial(self._f, self=inst) elif class_ is not None: return functools.partial(self._f, class_=class_) raise TypeError(nobody expects the Spanish inquisition) class A(object): @desc def f(self=None, class_=None): if self is not None: return instance elif class_ is not None: return class return unknown $ python -i class_or_inst.py A.f() 'class' A().f() 'instance' A.__dict__[f].__get__() Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module File class_or_inst.py, line 11, in __get__ raise TypeError(nobody expects the Spanish inquisition) TypeError: nobody expects the Spanish inquisition you are a genius! I've implemented this on my code and it works as expected ! Thanks :D -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: method that can be called from a class and also from an instance
On Thursday, November 22, 2012 5:26:59 PM UTC+1, Dave Angel wrote: On 11/22/2012 11:12 AM, Thomas Bach wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:52:56AM -0500, Dave Angel wrote: On 11/22/2012 10:14 AM, Marc Aymerich wrote: I want to create a method within a class that is able to accept either a class or an instance. I haven't tried it, but how about if you do a @classmethod decorator, and then just use isinstance(param, MyClass) ? This won't work: In [22]: class Foo(object): : @classmethod : def bar(cls): : print repr(cls) : In [23]: Foo.bar() class '__main__.Foo' In [24]: Foo().bar() class '__main__.Foo' Actually help(classmethod) explicitly says so: quote It can be called either on the class (e.g. C.f()) or on an instance (e.g. C().f()). The instance is ignored except for its class. /quote OK, thanks. I hadn't tried it, and hadn't noticed that that decorator converts to the class. I think the way to go is via the descriptor protocol[1] as suggested by Peter. Regards, Thomas. Footnotes: [1] http://docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html The OP should probably use this link instead, since he's not using Python 3. http://docs.python.org/2.7/howto/descriptor.html Marc: I believe the descriptor stuff has changed in Python 3; I don't use it. But if you've got to do this, and you have to do it in Python 2.x, you'd better use the 2.x documentation. thanks for the links Thomas and Dave, I'm going to read this documentation right now, I love to learn this kind of python 'internals' :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Constructing JSON data structures from non-string key python dictionaries
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Re: 10 sec poll - please reply!
Dear all, thank you for your replies. After experimenting with your suggestions, we have arrived at a solution that we believe fits well with our existing API. However, before we implement this solution, we would like to ask you one last time to sign off on our proposal or raise any serious problems you see with it. We took the fact that naming our one function 'type' was so difficult to name as an indicator that it may be trying to do too many things: On the one hand, it allows you to enter plain text as in `type(Hello World!)`; on the other hand, it lets you press single keys, possibly in combination with control keys as for instance in `type(CTRL + 'a')`. We believe it won't normally be necessary to combine the two. For instance, while you could see what type(CTRL + 'a' + Hello World!) does, we think you would be more likely to use the two separate calls type(CTRL + 'a') type(Hello World!) One of the main goals of our automation product is that using it should feel like giving instructions to a human being looking over their shoulder at a screen. For this reason, it's very useful for us if the function names in our API are short, if possible without underscores, and close to the vocabulary you would use in an everyday conversation. We hope that by offering an API with this property, we can not only make it easier to use for experienced programmers such as yourself, but also be approachable for people from a less technical background. In our gut feeling, the words apart from `type` that would most normally be used in an everyday conversation to express the three examples I have given in my first mail are: press(CTRL + 'a') enter(Hello World) press(ENTER) We really quite like the word `type`, and a few people here seem to favour it too. In particular, Steven: We're glad you accidentally clicked on our mail. Thank you for your inputs and the great quote by Phil Karlton. We think you were right in everything you said. However, some people seem to be *really* put off when you override a built-in function. Even though of course you can avoid the overriding by saying from automa.api import type *as* ..., (as Tim pointed out) we'd like to avoid irritating those people. For this reason, we would rather not use `type`. Many people here voted for send_keys(...). We agree with Dave and Neil that `type` may have too many uses already. As Chris and MRAB pointed out, 'send_keys' is used in many other automation tools. This makes it intuitive for people with knowledge of such tools. However, as I said above (and should have probably said earlier), we are also trying to reach users from a less technical background. Since these people would not normally use 'send_keys' in an everyday conversion, we are afraid that it would not be an intuitive name for them. A similar argument applies to some extent to our 'type_keys', to our 'generate_keystrokes', Ramit's 'simulate_keypress', 'simulate_key(s)_down', 'send_kb_press', 'fake_typing' and 'send_char(s)' and Tim's 'feedkeys'. We thank you for your suggestions. Hopefully you can also agree with our choice! Some suggestions were very nice, short and pretty unambiguous, such as Dennis' `emit` and particularly Alan's `strike`. However, they're unfortunately also rather rarely used and we'd be afraid that it'd be hard to remember them. Thank you though! A final point that Evan made and that also we find very important is to have verbs in our function names. Our proposed solution is to split what we previously called `type` into two functions, 'press' and 'enter' (proposed by xDog Walker). 'press' could be used to press single keys or combinations of them, at once: press(CTRL + 'a') press(ENTER) To open a menu via the keyboard, you could also supply several key combinations to be pressed, in sequence: press(ALT + 'f', 's') 'enter' on the other hand would be used to enter longer strings of plain text: enter(Hello World!) With a functionality we already have, you could supply an optional 'into' parameter that selects a text field into which the text is entered: enter(test.txt, into=File name) 'enter' currently does involve generating same system events that are fired when pressing (and releasing) sequences of keys. However, we did not want to include this technical detail in the function name - it keeps the name shorter, makes it more intuitive for users from a less technical background and also leaves us to change this implementation detail in the future. These names aren't perfect. As Emile rightly pointed out, several tools distinguish between 'press' and 'release' and a user might wonder how to release a key that was pressed using 'press'. That's an ambiguity that is certainly there, however we hope that once the user has at least seen press(ENTER) it is clear what is meant. Distinguishing between pressing and releasing
Re: Inconsistent behaviour os str.find/str.index when providing optional parameters
Il giorno giovedì 22 novembre 2012 09:44:21 UTC+1, Steven D'Aprano ha scritto:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 23:01:47 -0800, Giacomo Alzetta wrote:
Il giorno giovedì 22 novembre 2012 05:00:39 UTC+1, MRAB ha scritto:
On 2012-11-22 03:41, Terry Reedy wrote: It can't return 5 because 5
isn't an index in 'spam'.
It can't return 4 because 4 is below the start index.
Uhm. Maybe you are right, because returning a greater value would cause
an IndexError, but then, *why* is 4 returned???
'spam'.find('', 4)
4
'spam'[4]
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in module
IndexError: string index out of range
4 is not a valid index either. I do not think the behaviour was
completely intentional.
The behaviour is certainly an edge case, but I think it is correct.
(Correct or not, it has been the same going all the way back to Python
1.5, before strings even had methods, so it almost certainly will not be
changed. Changing the behaviour now will very likely break hundreds,
maybe thousands, of Python programs that expect the current behaviour.)
My point was not to change the behaviour but only to point out this possible
inconsistency between what str.find/str.index do and what they claim to do in
the documentation.
Anyway I'm not so sure that changing the behaviour would break many programs...
I mean, the change would only impact code that was looking for an empty string
over the string's bounds. I don't see often using the lo and hi parameters for
find/index, and I think I never saw someone using them when they get out of
bounds. If you add looking for the empty string I think that the number of
programs breaking will be minimum. And even if they break, it would be really
easy to fix them.
Anyway, I understand what you mean and maybe it's better to keep this (at least
to me) odd behaviour for backwards compatibility.
By this logic, spam.find(, 4) should return 4, because cut #4 is
immediately to the left of the empty string. So Python's current
behaviour is justified.
What about spam.find(, 5)? Well, if you look at the string with the
cuts marked as before:
0-1-2-3-4
|s|p|a|m|
you will see that there is no cut #5. Since there is no cut #5, we can't
sensibly say we found *anything* there, not even the empty string. If you
have four boxes, you can't say that you found anything in the fifth box.
I realise that this behaviour clashes somewhat with the slicing rule that
says that if the slice indexes go past the end of the string, you get an
empty string. But that rule is more for convenience than a fundamental
rule about strings.
Yeah, I understand what you say, but the logic you pointed out is never cited
anywhere, while slices are cited in the docstring.
The docstring does not describe this edge case, so I think it could be
improved. If the first sentence(being an index in S) is kept, than it
shouldn't say that start and end are treated as in slice notation,
because that's actually not true.
+1
I think that you are right that the documentation needs to be improved.
Definitely. The sentence Optional
arguments start and end are interpreted as in slice notation. should be
changed to something like:
Optional arguments start and end are interpreted as in slice notation, unless
start is (strictly?) greater than the length of S or end is smaller than start,
in which cases the search always fails.
In this way the 'spam'.find('', 4) *is* documented because start=len(S) -
start and end are treated like in slice notation and 4 makes sense, while
'spam'.find('', 5) - -1 because 5 len('spam') and thus the search fails
and also 'spam'.find('', 3, 2) - -1 makes sense because 2 3(this edge case
makes more sense, even though 'spam'[3:2] is still the empty string...).
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Re: Yet another Python textbook
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Colin J. Williams c...@ncf.ca wrote:
From my reading of the docs, it seems to me that the three following should
be equivalent:
(a) formattingStr.format(values)
with
(b) format(values, formattingStr)
or
(c) tupleOfValues.__format__(formattingStr
Example:
print('{:-^14f}{:^14d}'.format(-25.61, 95 ))
print(format((-25.61, 95), '{:-^14f}{:^14d}'))
(-25.61, 95 ).__format__('{:-^14f}{:^14d}')
The second fails, perhaps because values can only be a single value.
The third fails, the reason is unclear.
The latter two (which are more or less equivalent) fail because they are
intended for invoking the formatting rules of a single value. The
string argument to each of them is not a format string, but a format
specification, which in a format string is only the part that goes
inside the curly braces and after the optional colon. For example, in
this format string:
'Hello world {0!s:_4s}'.format(42)
'Hello world __42'
The format specifier here is _4s:
format('42', '_4s')
'__42'
The valid format specifiers depend upon the type of the object being formatted:
format(42, '04x')
'002a'
format(datetime(2012, 11, 22, 11, 17, 0), 'The time is %Y %d %m %H:%M:%S')
'The time is 2012 22 11 11:17:00'
Custom types can implement custom format specifications by overriding
the __format__ method:
class Foo:
... def __init__(self, value):
... self.value = value
... def __format__(self, spec):
... if spec == 'a':
... return str(self.value)
... if spec == 'b':
... return ''.join(reversed(str(self.value)))
... raise ValueError(Unknown format code {!r}.format(spec))
...
format(Foo(42), 'a')
'42'
format(Foo(42), 'b')
'24'
The same format specifications can then also be passed to str.format:
'{0:a} reversed is {0:b}'.format(Foo(42))
'42 reversed is 24'
Unfortunately, there does not seem to be a good reference to the
format specifications available for built-in types beyond basic
strings and numbers. I only knew about the datetime example because
it is used in an example in the str.format docs. The
datetime.__format__ implementation (which seems to be just a thin
wrapper of datetime.strftime) does not seem to be documented anywhere
in the datetime module docs.
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Print value from array
Hello,
I am noob en python programing, i wrote a perl script for read from csv but
now i wish print value but the value must be within double quote and I can not
do this.
For example now the output is:
ma user@domain displayName Name SecondName givenName Name sn SecondName cn Name
and i wish
ma user@domain displayName Name Lastname givenName Name sn SecondName
cn Name
My script is
#!/usr/bin/python
import csv
with open ('file.csv', 'rb') as f:
reader = csv.reader (f, delimiter=';' )
for row in reader:
mail = row [0]
name = row [1]
lastname = row [2]
name2 = row [1] + ' ' + row [2]
print 'ma ' + mail + ' displayName ' + name2.title() + '
givenName ' + name.title() + ' sn ' + lastname.title() + ' cn ' + name.title()
# print '\n'
f.close()
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Re: Print value from array
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:44:02 -0800, Mike wrote:
Hello,
I am noob en python programing, i wrote a perl script for read from csv
but now i wish print value but the value must be within double quote and
I can not do this.
For example now the output is:
ma user@domain displayName Name SecondName givenName Name sn SecondName
cn Name
and i wish
ma user@domain displayName Name Lastname givenName Name sn
SecondName cn Name
My script is
#!/usr/bin/python import csv
with open ('file.csv', 'rb') as f:
reader = csv.reader (f, delimiter=';' )
for row in reader:
mail = row [0]
name = row [1]
lastname = row [2]
name2 = row [1] + ' ' + row [2]
print 'ma ' + mail + ' displayName ' + name2.title() +
' givenName '
+ name.title() + ' sn ' + lastname.title() + ' cn ' +
name.title()
# print '\n'
f.close()
concatenation is not the python way to build strings
double quotes can be included in single quoted strings ( vice Versa)
try using the string formatting options, something like
print 'ma {} display name {} Given Name {} sn {} cn {}'.format
((mail,name2.title(),name.title(),lastname.title(),name.title()))
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Re: 10 sec poll - please reply!
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Michael Herrmann michael.herrm...@getautoma.com wrote: In our gut feeling, the words apart from `type` that would most normally be used in an everyday conversation to express the three examples I have given in my first mail are: press(CTRL + 'a') enter(Hello World) press(ENTER) Looks fairly good, except for one possible problem: The verb enter often means type this, and then press the Enter key. (For instance, open up a terminal/shell and enter this command.) Is that likely to be a point of confusion? It's plenty plausible either way. I like the multiple-keystrokes version: press(ALT + 'f', 's') and the split API does make good sense. ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: 10 sec poll - please reply!
Hi, thanks for your prompt reply; I agree that there is also this ambiguity. This would go away if we were to use `type` but as I said we don't dare to do that. That's the problem with short names - they're always ambiguous at least to some extent. The only alleviation I can offer for the valid concern you are raising is that the user will notice upon the very first use that Enter is not pressed after the text has been typed in, and then (if necessary) add a `press(ENTER)` afterwards. It's a pity that `type` is taken... It's very tempting to just use it. But then again you might have people trying to `type(ALT + TAB)`, which in our current proposal can only be input using `press`... What do the others think about this? Cheers On Thursday, November 22, 2012 8:08:39 PM UTC+1, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Michael Herrmann ... wrote: In our gut feeling, the words apart from `type` that would most normally be used in an everyday conversation to express the three examples I have given in my first mail are: press(CTRL + 'a') enter(Hello World) press(ENTER) Looks fairly good, except for one possible problem: The verb enter often means type this, and then press the Enter key. (For instance, open up a terminal/shell and enter this command.) Is that likely to be a point of confusion? It's plenty plausible either way. I like the multiple-keystrokes version: press(ALT + 'f', 's') and the split API does make good sense. ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Spam source (Re: Horror Horror Horror!!!!!)
On Sunday, November 18, 2012 8:18:53 PM UTC-6, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 18/11/2012 19:31, Terry Reedy wrote: The question was raised as to how much spam comes from googlegroups. I don't know the answer but I take the greatest pleasure in hurtling onto the dread googlegroups and gmane to report spam. Thankfully it's easy as the amount I receive via gmane is effectively zero. YMMV? It now takes two people reporting the same spam to get google groups to do much about it. I just reported this one as well, though. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Yet another Python textbook
On 11/22/2012 7:24 AM, Colin J. Williams wrote:
From my reading of the docs, it seems to me that the three following
should be equivalent:
We read differently...
(a) formattingStr.format(values)
Where 'values' is multiple arguments
with
(b) format(values, formattingStr)
format(value[, format_spec])
Convert a value to a “formatted” representation, as controlled by
format_spec.
I notice that you did not pass multiple args, but indeed just one.
A 'format_spec' is only part of a {} formatting field.
or
(c) tupleOfValues.__format__(formattingStr
tuple.__format__
method '__format__' of 'object' objects
Which of to say, not specific to tuples.
Example:
print('{:-^14f}{:^14d}'.format(-25.61, 95 ))
print(format((-25.61, 95), '{:-^14f}{:^14d}'))
The interpretation of format_spec will depend on the type of the value
argument, however there is a standard formatting syntax that is used by
most built-in types: Format Specification Mini-Language. (The latter is
link to the FSML.
'-^14f' and '^14d' are format_specs.
'{:-^14f}{:^14d}' is a format string that includes two fields with
format specs. It is not a format spec in itself and is therefore invalid
by the doc.
(-25.61, 95 ).__format__('{:-^14f}{:^14d}')
The second fails, perhaps because values can only be a single value.
You only passed one, but you did not pass a format spec and indeed there
is none for tuples. As delivered, format specs only format strings and
numbers as strings. Collection classes other than str recursively format
their members using str() or repr() until they reach strings, numbers,
or customs class instances with custom .__format__ methods.
Should we retreat to %-formatting for now?
Nonsense. The issues above are the same for % formatting. If you try to
format one object with two % format specs, it will fail for the same
reason. Try the % equivalent of what failed.
'%-14f%14d' % ((-25.61, 95 ),)
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Re: Yet another Python textbook
On 22/11/2012 1:27 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Colin J. Williams c...@ncf.ca wrote:
From my reading of the docs, it seems to me that the three following should
be equivalent:
(a) formattingStr.format(values)
with
(b) format(values, formattingStr)
or
(c) tupleOfValues.__format__(formattingStr
Example:
print('{:-^14f}{:^14d}'.format(-25.61, 95 ))
print(format((-25.61, 95), '{:-^14f}{:^14d}'))
(-25.61, 95 ).__format__('{:-^14f}{:^14d}')
The second fails, perhaps because values can only be a single value.
The third fails, the reason is unclear.
The latter two (which are more or less equivalent) fail because they are
intended for invoking the formatting rules of a single value. The
string argument to each of them is not a format string, but a format
specification, which in a format string is only the part that goes
inside the curly braces and after the optional colon. For example, in
this format string:
Thanks, this is clear. I wish the docs made this clearer.
You and I used __format__. I understand that the use of double
underscore functions is deprecated. Is there some regular function
which can achieve the same result?
'Hello world {0!s:_4s}'.format(42)
'Hello world __42'
The format specifier here is _4s:
format('42', '_4s')
'__42'
The valid format specifiers depend upon the type of the object being formatted:
format(42, '04x')
'002a'
format(datetime(2012, 11, 22, 11, 17, 0), 'The time is %Y %d %m %H:%M:%S')
'The time is 2012 22 11 11:17:00'
Custom types can implement custom format specifications by overriding
the __format__ method:
class Foo:
... def __init__(self, value):
... self.value = value
... def __format__(self, spec):
... if spec == 'a':
... return str(self.value)
... if spec == 'b':
... return ''.join(reversed(str(self.value)))
... raise ValueError(Unknown format code {!r}.format(spec))
...
format(Foo(42), 'a')
'42'
format(Foo(42), 'b')
'24'
The same format specifications can then also be passed to str.format:
'{0:a} reversed is {0:b}'.format(Foo(42))
'42 reversed is 24'
Unfortunately, there does not seem to be a good reference to the
format specifications available for built-in types beyond basic
strings and numbers. I only knew about the datetime example because
it is used in an example in the str.format docs. The
datetime.__format__ implementation (which seems to be just a thin
wrapper of datetime.strftime) does not seem to be documented anywhere
in the datetime module docs.
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Re: Inconsistent behaviour os str.find/str.index when providing optional parameters
If you reply through Google Groups, please be careful not to do it the
traditional way as us poor saps get hundreds of lines of added in.
I believe (but this is mere recollection) that a good way to use the site
is by selecting the text you want to quote before replying (even if it is
the whole post). I'm not too sure, though.
On 22 November 2012 18:22, Giacomo Alzetta giacomo.alze...@gmail.comwrote:
SNIP
My point was not to change the behaviour but only to point out this
possible inconsistency between what str.find/str.index do and what they
claim to do in the documentation.
Anyway I'm not so sure that changing the behaviour would break many
programs... I mean, the change would only impact code that was looking for
an empty string over the string's bounds. I don't see often using the lo
and hi parameters for find/index, and I think I never saw someone using
them when they get out of bounds. If you add looking for the empty string I
think that the number of programs breaking will be minimum. And even if
they break, it would be really easy to fix them.
Anyway, I understand what you mean and maybe it's better to keep this (at
least to me) odd behaviour for backwards compatibility.
SNIP
Yeah, I understand what you say, but the logic you pointed out is never
cited anywhere, while slices are cited in the docstring.
SNIP
Definitely. The sentence Optional
arguments start and end are interpreted as in slice notation. should be
changed to something like:
Optional arguments start and end are interpreted as in slice notation,
unless start is (strictly?) greater than the length of S or end is smaller
than start, in which cases the search always fails.
In this way the 'spam'.find('', 4) *is* documented because start=len(S) -
start and end are treated like in slice notation and 4 makes sense, while
'spam'.find('', 5) - -1 because 5 len('spam') and thus the search fails
and also 'spam'.find('', 3, 2) - -1 makes sense because 2 3(this edge
case makes more sense, even though 'spam'[3:2] is still the empty
string...).
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Re: Yet another Python textbook
On 22 November 2012 22:41, Colin J. Williams c...@ncf.ca wrote:
On 22/11/2012 1:27 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Colin J. Williams c...@ncf.ca wrote:
From my reading of the docs, it seems to me that the three following
should
be equivalent:
(a) formattingStr.format(values)
with
(b) format(values, formattingStr)
or
(c) tupleOfValues.__format__(**formattingStr
Example:
print('{:-^14f}{:^14d}'.**format(-25.61, 95 ))
print(format((-25.61, 95), '{:-^14f}{:^14d}'))
(-25.61, 95 ).__format__('{:-^14f}{:^14d}'**)
The second fails, perhaps because values can only be a single value.
The third fails, the reason is unclear.
The latter two (which are more or less equivalent) fail because they are
intended for invoking the formatting rules of a single value. The
string argument to each of them is not a format string, but a format
specification, which in a format string is only the part that goes
inside the curly braces and after the optional colon. For example, in
this format string:
Thanks, this is clear. I wish the docs made this clearer.
You and I used __format__. I understand that the use of double underscore
functions is deprecated. Is there some regular function which can achieve
the same result?
help(format)
format(...)
format(value[, format_spec]) - string
Returns value.__format__(format_spec)
format_spec defaults to
*In other words, format(a, b) is the correct way to write
a.__format__(b).*
This is in the same way that a.__add__(b) should be written a + b, or
a.__round__(b) written round(a, b).
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Re: Managing multiple packages
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 03:24:59PM -0600, Evan Driscoll wrote: Suppose I have packages A-C. In addition to being modules in the Python sense, they are logically distinct, probably sit in different repositories, etc., so there's a directory layout like [SNIP] Finally, suppose that you're changing between editing all three modules. How do you deal with this? I am using virtual environments and do a python setup.py develop on each package. This just creates a symbolic link to the package and all edits show up immediately. I have not come up with a good solution for tox, yet. Hope this helps, Thomas. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Print value from array
El jueves, 22 de noviembre de 2012 16:02:30 UTC-3, Alister escribió:
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:44:02 -0800, Mike wrote:
Hello,
I am noob en python programing, i wrote a perl script for read from csv
but now i wish print value but the value must be within double quote and
I can not do this.
For example now the output is:
ma user@domain displayName Name SecondName givenName Name sn SecondName
cn Name
and i wish
ma user@domain displayName Name Lastname givenName Name sn
SecondName cn Name
My script is
#!/usr/bin/python import csv
with open ('file.csv', 'rb') as f:
reader = csv.reader (f, delimiter=';' )
for row in reader:
mail = row [0]
name = row [1]
lastname = row [2]
name2 = row [1] + ' ' + row [2]
print 'ma ' + mail + ' displayName ' + name2.title() +
' givenName '
+ name.title() + ' sn ' + lastname.title() + ' cn ' +
name.title()
# print '\n'
f.close()
concatenation is not the python way to build strings
double quotes can be included in single quoted strings ( vice Versa)
try using the string formatting options, something like
print 'ma {} display name {} Given Name {} sn {} cn {}'.format
((mail,name2.title(),name.title(),lastname.title(),name.title()))
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solved
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Re: Spam source (Re: Horror Horror Horror!!!!!)
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:08:58 -0800, Robert Miles wrote: It now takes two people reporting the same spam to get google groups to do much about it. I just reported this one as well, though. Speaking of spam, googlegroups, and other annoyances, please don't CC python-list@python.org as well as posting to the newsgroup. The newsgroup is already automatically mirrored by the mailing list, and vice versa, so by CCing all you do is needlessly, and annoyingly, duplicate your message. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Migrate from Access 2010 / VBA
Greetings: I am the lone developer of db apps at a company of 350+ employees. Everything is done in MS Access 2010 and VBA. I'm frustrated with the limitations of this platform and have been considering switching to Python. I've been experimenting with the language for a year or so, and feel comfortable with the basics. I am concerned that I'll have a hard time replacing the access form and report designers. I've worked a little with TKinter, but it's a far cry from the GUI designer in Access. Finding a professional grade report designer looks like an even bigger challenge. I don't need to port any applications, but I will need to use the data (mdb/accede format), design a variety of reports with multi-level groupings, and deliver them to many individual recipients via email. Has anyone here made this transition successfully? If so, could you pass along your suggestions about how to do this as quickly and painlessly as possible? TIA Keith -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Yet another Python textbook
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:41:22 -0500, Colin J. Williams wrote: You and I used __format__. I understand that the use of double underscore functions is deprecated. Double leading and trailing underscore methods are not deprecated, they are very much part of the public interface. But they are reserved for Python's use, and under normal conditions you should not be using them by hand. For example: y = x.__add__(1) # NO y = x + 1 # YES if mylist.__len__() 2: # NO if len(mylist) 2: # YES Is there some regular function which can achieve the same result? The built-in format() function is the public API for calling the dunder method __format__. So normally you would write: format(value, spec) instead of value.__format__(spec). -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Migrate from Access 2010 / VBA
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:19 PM, kgard kag...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings: I am the lone developer of db apps at a company of 350+ employees. Everything is done in MS Access 2010 and VBA. I'm frustrated with the limitations of this platform and have been considering switching to Python. I've been experimenting with the language for a year or so, and feel comfortable with the basics. I am concerned that I'll have a hard time replacing the access form and report designers. I've worked a little with TKinter, but it's a far cry from the GUI designer in Access. Finding a professional grade report designer looks like an even bigger challenge. I don't need to port any applications, but I will need to use the data (mdb/accede format), design a variety of reports with multi-level groupings, and deliver them to many individual recipients via email. Has anyone here made this transition successfully? If so, could you pass along your suggestions about how to do this as quickly and painlessly as possible?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0 TIA Keith Translate function for function to the new language(return values), then adapt the GUI to represent the new functions on event activity via widgets. -- Best Regards, David Hutto CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Yet another Python textbook
No worries, I've just sent you my pull-request :) On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Pavel Solin solin.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alec, Can you put your website—http://femhub.com/textbook-python/—on your github—https://github.com/femhub/nclab-textbook-python? Done, thank you so much. I edited the textbook based on responses that I received. Based on several inquiries we also decided to add Python 3.2 to NCLab. New release is coming in one or two weeks. Cheers, Pavel On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Prof. Solin, Can you put your website—http://femhub.com/textbook-python/—on your github—https://github.com/femhub/nclab-textbook-python? I will then send you a pull request with a bootstrapped homepage with good UX. All the best, Alec Taylor -- Pavel Solin Associate Professor Applied and Computational Mathematics University of Nevada, Reno http://hpfem.org/~pavel -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: method that can be called from a class and also from an instance
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:51:27 +0100, Peter Otten wrote: Marc Aymerich wrote: Hi, I want to create a method within a class that is able to accept either a class or an instance. [...] Why would you overload a method that way? The use-case I have is that I have a number of classes with default state. Most instances don't override any of the state, so the instances don't add anything except an extra conceptual layer: instance = MyClass() # notice that there are no arguments passed instance.method(args) Since the instances don't have any state except for that already held by the class, they are redundant and pointless. Just knowing the class is enough to specify the behaviour. If I used class methods, I could do this: MyClass.method(args) But here's the thing -- sometimes I *do* have instances that override the default state: instance = MyClass(x, y, z) instance.method(args) Now if method is a class method, my per-instance state is ignored. So I want a method that can be called from the class, and see the default state, or from the instance, and see the per-instance state. Neither classmethod, staticmethod nor ordinary instance methods do the job, but my custom dualmethod does. http://code.activestate.com/recipes/577030/ -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Migrate from Access 2010 / VBA
I am the lone developer of db apps at a company of 350+ employees. Everything is done in MS Access 2010 and VBA. I'm frustrated with the limitations of this platform and have been considering switching to Python. I've been experimenting with the language for a year or so, and feel comfortable with the basics. I am concerned that I'll have a hard time replacing the access form and report designers. I've worked a little with TKinter, but it's a far cry from the GUI designer in Access. Finding a professional grade report designer looks like an even bigger challenge. I don't need to port any applications, but I will need to use the data (mdb/accede format), design a variety of reports with multi-level groupings, and deliver them to many individual recipients via email. Do the employees need to be able to create their own reports, or do you interview them and create reports based on their requirements? Is there a need to provide slice-and-dice, or is each permutation/view of the data its own report? Are the recipients internal? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: 10 sec poll - please reply!
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 10:00:54 -0800, Michael Herrmann wrote: We took the fact that naming our one function 'type' was so difficult to name as an indicator that it may be trying to do too many things: I don't think it is difficult to name at all. On the one hand, it allows you to enter plain text as in `type(Hello World!)`; That would be called typing. on the other hand, it lets you press single keys, That would be called typing. possibly in combination with control keys as for instance in `type(CTRL + 'a')`. That would be called prestidigitation. Nah, just kidding. That would also be called typing. We believe it won't normally be necessary to combine the two. I can't imagine why you say that. You even go ahead and give a perfectly fine example of combining a control character with plain text. I don't know what operating system you are using, but under Linux, people often use strings of regular characters mixed in with control- or alt- characters. E.g. I in the shell, I might type Alt-B Shift-' END Shift-' to jump backwards one word (Alt-B), insert a double quote mark (Shift-'), jump to the end of the line I am editing (END), and insert another double quote mark. It is a needless restriction to assume that every control character must only be part of a single key press event. I even remember a Mac application back in the early 1990s or late 1980s that used combinations like Ctrl-A Y to perform commands. (Actually, such older Macs didn't have a Control key, they used Command instead, but the principle is the same.) One of the main goals of our automation product is that using it should feel like giving instructions to a human being looking over their shoulder at a screen. In a word processor, I might say Type Ctrl-A Ctrl-X to cut all the text from the document. rather than Press Ctrl-A. Now press Ctrl-X. We really quite like the word `type`, and a few people here seem to favour it too. In particular, Steven: We're glad you accidentally clicked on our mail. Thank you for your inputs and the great quote by Phil Karlton. We think you were right in everything you said. However, some people seem to be *really* put off when you override a built-in function. Even though of course you can avoid the overriding by saying from automa.api import type *as* ..., (as Tim pointed out) we'd like to avoid irritating those people. For this reason, we would rather not use `type`. You need to ask yourself, who is your primary audience for your software? Is it ... ? a) non-technical people who aren't very familiar with Python, and might not even know that there is a built-in function also called type, or care if they do know; b) Python programmers who have embraced the concept of namespaces and have no fear about x.foo clashing with y.foo; c) Python programmers with a superstitious dread of using any name which is not global unique, just in case somebody accidentally shadows one function foo with another function foo. I think it is downright silly to avoid using the descriptive and simple name type out of some superstition against re-using names which have been used elsewhere, even in the builtins. If it were possible to be confused by the two types, e.g. if they took the same arguments but did radically different things, then I would accept that it was too dangerous/confusing to re-use the name. Reasonable fears about shadowing and confusion are, well, reasonable. But nobody is going to confuse your use of type as a command: type(some_string) with the built-in use as a function if type(something) is list: MyClass = type(x, y, z) I don't think there is any point in having two functions that do exactly the same thing. Expect your users to develop all sorts of superstitions like you can only use press() with a single key at a time, and get confused as to when you are supposed to use enter() and when press() (for whatever names you eventually choose). -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Data manipulation tool built with bottle and redis
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Re: PyPy 2.0 beta 1 released
Maciej Fijalkowski wrote 22.11.2012 12:54: We're pleased to announce the 2.0 beta 1 release of PyPy. ... It also supports ARM machines running Linux. ... Is it be possible to use PyPy to develop Apps for Android phones and tablets? Or will it be possible to do so in the future? Regards, Peter Funk -- Peter Funk, home: ✉Oldenburger Str.86, D-2 Ganderkesee mobile:+49-179-640-8878 phone:+49-421-20419-0 http://www.artcom-gmbh.de/ office: ArtCom GmbH, ✉Haferwende 2, D-28357 Bremen, Germany -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python on Android (was: PyPy 2.0 beta 1 released)
Peter Funk, 23.11.2012 07:54: Is it be possible to use PyPy to develop Apps for Android phones and tablets? Or will it be possible to do so in the future? You can use CPython and kivy for that. Nik Klever gave a quick intro to Python on Android at this year's PyCon-DE: http://pyvideo.org/video/1443/erfahrungen-mit-py4a-sowohl-mit-sl4a-als-auch He's using it for teaching purposes. Stefan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
[issue16527] (very) long list of elif causes segfault
Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment: On 22.11.2012 00:41, Alexis Daboville wrote: A possible cause (if I understood http://greentreesnakes.readthedocs.org/en/latest/nodes.html#If well) is that there are no elif nodes in the AST, elif are just plain ifs which are stored recursively in the else part of the previous if. This is likely the cause. It's possible that the Python compiler uses too much stack space, causing the stack to underrun, if the default recursion limit is too high. You should be able to check this by setting the recursion limit to a lower value: http://docs.python.org/3/library/sys.html?highlight=setrecursion#sys.setrecursionlimit It defaults to 1000. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Nov 22 2012) Python Projects, Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...http://python.egenix.com/ ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ -- nosy: +lemburg ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16527 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16529] Compiler error when trying to compile ceval.c on OpenSUSE 11.3
New submission from Marc-Andre Lemburg: When trying to compile the hg checkout (2012-11-22), I'm getting a compiler error from GCC when trying to compile ceval.c on OpenSUSE 11.3 x64: gcc -pthread -c -Wno-unused-result -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -I. -IInclude -I./Include-DPy_BUILD_CORE -o Python/ceval.o Python/ceval.c Python/ceval.c: In function PyEval_EvalFrameEx: Python/ceval.c:3168:1: internal compiler error: in save_call_clobbered_regs, at caller-save.c:911 Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See http://bugs.opensuse.org/ for instructions. make: *** [Python/ceval.o] Error 1 Here's the gcc version info: Using built-in specs. COLLECT_GCC=gcc COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.5/lto-wrapper Target: x86_64-suse-linux Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/usr --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --libdir=/usr/lib64 --libexecdir=/usr/lib64 --enable-languages=c,c++,objc,fortran,obj-c++,java,ada --enable-checking=release --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/4.5 --enable-ssp --disable-libssp --disable-plugin --with-bugurl=http://bugs.opensuse.org/ --with-pkgversion='SUSE Linux' --disable-libgcj --disable-libmudflap --with-slibdir=/lib64 --with-system-zlib --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-libstdcxx-allocator=new --disable-libstdcxx-pch --enable-version-specific-runtime-libs --program-suffix=-4.5 --enable-linux-futex --without-system-libunwind --enable-gold --with-plugin-ld=/usr/bin/gold --with-arch-32=i586 --with-tune=generic --build=x86_64-suse-linux Thread model: posix gcc version 4.5.0 20100604 [gcc-4_5-branch revision 160292] (SUSE Linux) Interestingly, this error does not happen when compiling the 3.3.0 release version. It looks similar to these two bugs that are related to some optimization bug in GCC: * http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=45259 (I can't reproduce this one) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=622060 (This was detected in Fedora for Python 3.1.2) I guess you could say that the compiler is broken, but I still think that Python's configure script should detect this and then disable --with-computed-gotos. -- components: Build, Interpreter Core messages: 176101 nosy: lemburg priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Compiler error when trying to compile ceval.c on OpenSUSE 11.3 versions: Python 3.4 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16529 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16527] (very) long list of elif causes segfault
Alexis Daboville added the comment:
I don't think it can be fixed with sys.setrecursionlimit for a few reasons:
* I think the issue arises when the AST is built. Otherwise if we put code
before the if it would execute. But that's not the case (try putting a
print('hello') before the if and it won't print anything).
- This also means that you cannot directly call sys.setrecursionlimit in the
file with the elifs.
- Though we can set recursion limit using a second file which will then
import the elifs file: I tried with different limits and CPython still crash in
the same way (and always with the same number of elifs, roughly, because I
didn't binary search for the exact amount of elifs).
- sys.setrecursionlimit controls the stack size of the running Python
program, while here we break C stack directly before running Python bytecode.
* When recursion limit is hit, an exception is raised, there's no segfault:
def f():
... f()
...
f()
# plenty of omitted lines
RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded
* Having a RuntimeError raised would be nice, though 'maximum recursion depth
exceeded' may not be the best possible error message as from a 'Python user'
POV there's no recursion here.
---
A possible solution would be, I guess, to store elifs as excepts are stored.
Instead of storing elifs recursively, the else part would just contain a list
of if nodes (and if there is a else, well just store an if True node).
Though I don't know how difficult it would be to implement that, or if it's
likely to break a lot of things which relies on ifs/elifs to be stored that way.
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[issue16527] (very) long list of elif causes segfault
Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment:
On 22.11.2012 10:26, Alexis Daboville wrote:
Alexis Daboville added the comment:
I don't think it can be fixed with sys.setrecursionlimit for a few reasons:
I think you misunderstood. The suggestion was to use the sys
function to check whether the segfault is indeed caused by
the stack and where a more suitable would be.
In order to check this, you need to set a new limit and then
compile the example script. If this results in a RuntimeError
instead of a segfault for some new value of the limit, we'd
know that the problem is caused by the stack use of the compiler.
* I think the issue arises when the AST is built. Otherwise if we put code
before the if it would execute. But that's not the case (try putting a
print('hello') before the if and it won't print anything).
- This also means that you cannot directly call sys.setrecursionlimit in
the file with the elifs.
- Though we can set recursion limit using a second file which will then
import the elifs file: I tried with different limits and CPython still crash
in the same way (and always with the same number of elifs, roughly, because I
didn't binary search for the exact amount of elifs).
- sys.setrecursionlimit controls the stack size of the running Python
program, while here we break C stack directly before running Python bytecode.
It is also used by the compiler. From symtable.c:
/* When compiling the use of C stack is probably going to be a lot
lighter than when executing Python code but still can overflow
and causing a Python crash if not checked (e.g. eval(()*30)).
Using the current recursion limit for the compiler seems too
restrictive (it caused at least one test to fail) so a factor is
used to allow deeper recursion when compiling an expression.
Using a scaling factor means this should automatically adjust when
the recursion limit is adjusted for small or large C stack allocations.
*/
#define COMPILER_STACK_FRAME_SCALE 3
We may have to adjust that scaling factor.
* When recursion limit is hit, an exception is raised, there's no segfault:
def f():
... f()
...
f()
# plenty of omitted lines
RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded
* Having a RuntimeError raised would be nice, though 'maximum recursion depth
exceeded' may not be the best possible error message as from a 'Python user'
POV there's no recursion here.
You should be seeing maximum recursion depth exceeded during compilation
if the RuntimeError is generated by the compiler - as Christian did for
debug builds.
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[issue16382] Better warnings exception for bad category
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[issue16527] (very) long list of elif causes segfault
Mark Dickinson added the comment: I think the issue arises when the AST is built. It's occurring when generating a code object from the AST, after the AST is built: Python 3.3.0+ (3.3:bf1bf3bf3fe2, Nov 22 2012, 10:45:24) [GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5664)] on darwin Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. code = el.join(['if False: pass\n']*1) import ast tree = ast.parse(code) code_obj = compile(tree, 'noname.py', 'exec') Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded during compilation I don't know why you're getting a segfault rather than the above RuntimeError, though: on my machine this goes straight from working to the RuntimeError: code = el.join(['if False: pass\n']*2996) code_obj = compile(ast.parse(code), 'noname.py', 'exec') code = el.join(['if False: pass\n']*2997) code_obj = compile(ast.parse(code), 'noname.py', 'exec') Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded during compilation Crys: do you still see the segfault if COMPILER_STACK_FRAME_SCALE is #define'd to be 2 rather than 3? -- nosy: +mark.dickinson ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16527 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16522] Add 'FAIL_FAST' flag to doctest
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset e456da396ad9 by R David Murray in branch 'default': #16522: s/always 1/at most 1/. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/e456da396ad9 -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16522 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16528] 3.2 docs not updating on docs.python.org
R. David Murray added the comment: I don't know. If it is would be in wherever documenting Python is these days. The policy is that only the versions in active maintenance are automatically rebuilt. 3.2 is technically no longer in maintenance, it's just that there are reasons that we are delaying the final release. But I remember Georg answering this question on one forum or another, saying that the switch in which versions get built happens when the new version's pages move from default to release. (So, it is always somewhat before the final release of the previous maintenance version.) -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16528 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16490] inspect.getargspec() and inspect.getcallargs() don't work for builtins
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[issue12614] Allow to explicitly set the method of urllib.request.Request
Senthil Kumaran added the comment: Hello Miki Tebeka, The change requested by this issue (and provided by the patch) is already in place in 3.3. This was committed as part of issue1673007 has the same behavior too. I am closing this as duplicate. Thank you, Senthil -- resolution: - duplicate status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue12614 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16464] urllib.request: opener not resetting content-length
Andrew Svetlov added the comment: I'm agree with solution, see my comments in review for the patch. -- nosy: +asvetlov ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16464 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16464] urllib.request: opener not resetting content-length
Andrew Svetlov added the comment: Perhaps it's a bit new behavior and should be applied to 3.4 only. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16464 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue15990] solidify argument/parameter terminology
Ezio Melotti added the comment: I modified the last patch to use bullet lists and include more examples, and also added a FAQ entry to explain the difference between args and parameters. I'll leave further comments on rietveld. -- nosy: +eric.araujo Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file28073/issue-15990-3-default.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15990 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16527] (very) long list of elif causes segfault
Serhiy Storchaka added the comment: This may be a duplicate of issue5765. -- nosy: +serhiy.storchaka resolution: - duplicate superseder: - stack overflow evaluating eval(() * 3) ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16527 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16527] (very) long list of elif causes segfault
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[issue16530] documentation of os.wait3
New submission from George Yoshida: Documentation defines os.wait3 function as : os.wait3([options]) but, this argument is required(no default options are set), so os.wait3(options) is the correct definition. http://docs.python.org/3.3/library/os.html#os.wait3 -- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation keywords: easy messages: 176112 nosy: docs@python, quiver priority: low severity: normal status: open title: documentation of os.wait3 type: behavior versions: Python 2.6, Python 2.7, Python 3.1, Python 3.2, Python 3.3, Python 3.4 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16530 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16527] (very) long list of elif causes segfault
Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment: On 22.11.2012 17:15, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: This may be a duplicate of issue5765. It's certainly similar, but this ticket is not about expressions, it's about statements that are meant to be repeated often, so in a way less artificial :-) It would be interesting to see whether the scaling factor 3 is small enough to catch this case as well. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Nov 22 2012) Python Projects, Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...http://python.egenix.com/ ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16527 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16464] urllib.request: opener not resetting content-length
Alexey Kachayev added the comment: Fixed patch is attached. Documentation is updated. -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file28074/issue16464_fixed.diff ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16464 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16528] 3.2 docs not updating on docs.python.org
Georg Brandl added the comment: That's correct. Documenting Python is in the devguide now; feel free to remark this somewhere. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16528 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue13266] Add inspect.unwrap(f) to easily unravel __wrapped__ chains
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[issue16528] 3.2 docs not updating on docs.python.org
Chris Jerdonek added the comment: The policy is that only the versions in active maintenance are automatically rebuilt. 3.2 is technically no longer in maintenance, it's just that there are reasons that we are delaying the final release. Okay, below the devguide says it is still in maintenance. Should that be changed? There are 6 open branches right now in the Mercurial repository: * the default branch holds the future 3.4 version and descends from 3.3 * the 3.3 branch holds bug fixes for future 3.3.x maintenance releases and descends from 3.2 * the 3.2 branch holds bug fixes for an upcoming final 3.2.4 maintenance release and then for future 3.2.x security releases * the 3.1 branch holds security fixes for future 3.1.x security releases ... (from http://docs.python.org/devguide/devcycle.html#summary ) Perhaps that was the source of confusion for me. I was wondering if there was some other policy about when not to rebuild branches still in maintenance mode. But given that it's not really in maintenance mode any longer, that answers my question. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16528 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16528] 3.2 docs not updating on docs.python.org
Georg Brandl added the comment: 3.2 is still in maintenance, but the docs are not rebuilt daily for any past stable version, whether they are in maintenance or not. Maybe it's not such a big deal at all? -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16528 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16527] (very) long list of elif causes segfault
Christian Heimes added the comment: I'm unable to reproduce the issue with 3.3 and default head. With v3.3.0 the script causes a segfault. I guess Serhiy has a point, the fix for #5765 also fixes this issue. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16527 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16528] 3.2 docs not updating on docs.python.org
Chris Jerdonek added the comment: It's not. Thanks for the clarification and info. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16528 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16527] (very) long list of elif causes segfault
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[issue15990] solidify argument/parameter terminology
Chris Jerdonek added the comment: I have a number of comments but it is a holiday this weekend so I might not be able to get to it for a day or two. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15990 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16499] CLI option for isolated mode
Christian Heimes added the comment: How shall I handle venv? I'm reluctant to disable venv in site.py although it allows a user to modify sys.path. However it's only an issue under two circumstances: (1) The user either needs write permissions to the parent directory of the python executable. (2) The script doesn't hard code the path to the interpreter in its shebang. Point 1 allows the user to mess with the system in more serious ways. The second point can be avoided with a correctly written shebang line. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16499 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16499] CLI option for isolated mode
Antoine Pitrou added the comment: How shall I handle venv? I'm reluctant to disable venv in site.py although it allows a user to modify sys.path. However it's only an issue under two circumstances: (1) The user either needs write permissions to the parent directory of the python executable. (2) The script doesn't hard code the path to the interpreter in its shebang. Point 1 allows the user to mess with the system in more serious ways. The second point can be avoided with a correctly written shebang line. I agree that venv shouldn't be a problem. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16499 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue14525] ia64-hp-hpux11.31 won't compile 2.7 without -D_TERMIOS_INCLUDED
Stefan Krah added the comment: Closing, since this is fixed on the buildslave. -- components: +Extension Modules -Build keywords: +buildbot resolution: - duplicate stage: needs patch - committed/rejected status: open - closed superseder: - termios fix for QNX breaks HP-UX type: enhancement - compile error ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue14525 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue1690840] xmlrpclib methods submit call on __str__, __repr__
anatoly techtonik added the comment: I'd say this one worthy to be backported. -- nosy: +techtonik status: pending - open ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue1690840 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue3580] failures in test_os
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[issue4473] POP3 missing support for starttls
Antoine Pitrou added the comment: where? In `caps=self.capa()` (you need a space around the assignment operator). Here I'm following: at :ref:`pop3-objects` in Doc/library/poplib.rst, Ah, ok. Then I agree it makes sense to call it stls(). No need for an alias, IMO. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue4473 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16438] Numeric operator predecence confusing
Kiet Tran added the comment: Good idea. -- keywords: +patch Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file28075/16438.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16438 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue13057] Thread not working for python 2.7.1 built with HP Compiler on HP-UX 11.31 ia64
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset b4f6cd5f9ab7 by Stefan Krah in branch '2.7': Issue #13057: Include stdio.h when NULL is used in configure.ac. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/b4f6cd5f9ab7 -- nosy: +python-dev ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue13057 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue13057] Thread not working for python 2.7.1 built with HP Compiler on HP-UX 11.31 ia64
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset f0baa6be2bf1 by Stefan Krah in branch '3.3': Issue #13057: Include stdio.h when NULL is used in configure.ac. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/f0baa6be2bf1 -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue13057 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16531] Allow IPNetwork to take a tuple
New submission from Antoine Pitrou:
I am in a situation where I'm building an IPNetwork from separate address and
mask information. So roughly I'd like to write either:
addr = IPAddress('192.168.0.0')
network = IPNetwork((addr, '255.255.0.0'))
or
addr = '192.168.0.0'
network = IPNetwork((addr, '255.255.0.0'))
Of course it seems like this would be equivalent to:
network = IPNetwork('%s/%s' % (addr, '255.255.0.0.'))
(but more user-friendly :-))
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title: Allow IPNetwork to take a tuple
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[issue16306] Multiple error line for unknown command line parameter
Antoine Pitrou added the comment: You broke the Ubuntu Shared buildbot, could you fix it? http://buildbot.python.org/all/buildslaves/bolen-ubuntu -- nosy: +pitrou status: closed - open ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16306 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16532] AMD64 Windows 7 build failures
New submission from Antoine Pitrou: The AMD64 Windows 7 buildbot shows weird build failures in ctypes: http://buildbot.python.org/all/buildslaves/kloth-win64 -- keywords: buildbot messages: 176131 nosy: jeremy.kloth, jkloth, pitrou priority: high severity: normal status: open title: AMD64 Windows 7 build failures versions: Python 3.2, Python 3.3, Python 3.4 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16532 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16533] HPUX: Unable to fork() in thread
New submission from Stefan Krah: There's an error on the HPUX-IA64 buildbot that might be due to some kernel limits. Trent, could you check if the following helps (requires root)? http://zensonic.dk/?p=326 test_forkinthread (test.test_thread.TestForkInThread) ... Fatal Python error: Invalid thread state for this thread test test_thread failed -- Traceback (most recent call last): File /home/cpython/buildslave/2.7.snakebite-hpux11iv3-ia64-1/build/Lib/test/test_support.py, line 1265, in decorator return func(*args) File /home/cpython/buildslave/2.7.snakebite-hpux11iv3-ia64-1/build/Lib/test/test_thread.py, line 246, in test_forkinthread Unable to fork() in thread) AssertionError: Unable to fork() in thread -- components: Tests messages: 176132 nosy: skrah, trent priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: HPUX: Unable to fork() in thread type: behavior versions: Python 2.7 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16533 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16534] test_float failure on IA64 (HPUX)
New submission from Stefan Krah: There's a test_float failure on HPUX (and many compiler warnings): test test_float failed -- Traceback (most recent call last): File /home/cpython/buildslave/2.7.snakebite-hpux11iv3-ia64-1/build/Lib/test/test_float.py, line 622, in test_format_testfile self.assertEqual(fmt % arg, rhs) AssertionError: '464902769475481793200' != '464902769475481793196872414789632' -- components: Tests messages: 176133 nosy: mark.dickinson, skrah priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: test_float failure on IA64 (HPUX) type: behavior versions: Python 2.7 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16534 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue13057] Thread not working for python 2.7.1 built with HP Compiler on HP-UX 11.31 ia64
Stefan Krah added the comment: Fixed in 2.7, 3.3 and 3.4. -- resolution: - fixed stage: needs patch - committed/rejected status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue13057 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16535] json encoder unable to handle decimal
New submission from Éric Araujo:
In 2.7 and other versions, the json module has incomplete support for decimals:
json.loads('0.2', parse_float=Decimal)
Decimal('0.2')
json.dumps(json.loads('0.2', parse_float=Decimal))
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in module
File /usr/lib/python2.7/json/__init__.py, line 231, in dumps
return _default_encoder.encode(obj)
File /usr/lib/python2.7/json/encoder.py, line 201, in encode
chunks = self.iterencode(o, _one_shot=True)
File /usr/lib/python2.7/json/encoder.py, line 264, in iterencode
return _iterencode(o, 0)
File /usr/lib/python2.7/json/encoder.py, line 178, in default
raise TypeError(repr(o) + is not JSON serializable)
TypeError: Decimal('0.2') is not JSON serializable
simplejson encodes decimals out of the box, but json can’t round-trip.
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[issue16535] json encoder unable to handle decimal
Éric Araujo added the comment: See lengthy discussion that lead to inclusion in simplejson here: http://code.google.com/p/simplejson/issues/detail?id=34 -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16535 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue15474] Differentiate decorator and decorator factory in docs
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[issue16535] json encoder unable to handle decimal
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[issue16531] Allow IPNetwork to take a tuple
Nick Coghlan added the comment: Sounds reasonable, especially as it also allows networks and interfaces with prefixes other than /32 or /128 to be easily constructed based on integer address values. Should we also allow integers as the second argument, with the same prefix length meaning as the corresponding string? -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16531 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue15474] Differentiate decorator and decorator factory in docs
Ezio Melotti added the comment: The tutorial doesn't seem to mention decorators, do you think this should be covered there? FWIW while explaining decorators I usually use 3 examples: 1) a simple decorator that accepts a function, does something, and returns the same function; 2) a decorator that defines and returns an inner function; 3) a decorator factory, that defines two nested inner functions Not sure if it's necessary to include the first example though. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15474 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue3244] multipart/form-data encoding
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[issue16536] test_cmd_line: failure on Ubuntu Shared
New submission from Stefan Krah: == FAIL: test_unknown_options (test.test_cmd_line.CmdLineTest) -- Traceback (most recent call last): File /srv/buildbot/buildarea/3.x.bolen-ubuntu/build/Lib/test/test_cmd_line.py, line 393, in test_unknown_options self.assertIn(b'Unknown option', err) AssertionError: b'Unknown option' not found in b'/srv/buildbot/buildarea/3.x.bolen-ubuntu/build/python: error while loading shared libraries: libpython3.4dm.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory' -- -- components: Tests messages: 176139 nosy: skrah priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: test_cmd_line: failure on Ubuntu Shared type: behavior versions: Python 3.4 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16536 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16536] test_cmd_line: failure on Ubuntu Shared
Ezio Melotti added the comment: Already reported in #16306. (Also it's easier if you add a link to the failing buildbot.) -- nosy: +ezio.melotti resolution: - duplicate stage: - committed/rejected status: open - closed superseder: - Multiple error line for unknown command line parameter ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16536 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16309] PYTHONPATH= different from no PYTHONPATH at all
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset 803e5a732331 by Ezio Melotti in branch 'default': #16309: avoid using deprecated method and turn docstring in a comment. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/803e5a732331 -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16309 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16537] setup.py throws a ValueError when self.extensions is empty
New submission from Jonathan Hosmer: When disabled_module_list contains all the module names that are not built by Modules/Setup.dist, self.extensions in setup.py will be an empty list and when build_extensions tries to determine the max length of all extension names it raises a ValueError with the following traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File ./setup.py, line 2143, in module main() File ./setup.py, line 2138, in main 'Lib/smtpd.py'] File /Users/pythonforios/Python_for_iOS/trunk/Python_for_iOS/python2.7/Lib/distutils/core.py, line 152, in setup dist.run_commands() File /Users/pythonforios/Python_for_iOS/trunk/Python_for_iOS/python2.7/Lib/distutils/dist.py, line 953, in run_commands self.run_command(cmd) File /Users/pythonforios/Python_for_iOS/trunk/Python_for_iOS/python2.7/Lib/distutils/dist.py, line 972, in run_command cmd_obj.run() File /Users/pythonforios/Python_for_iOS/trunk/Python_for_iOS/python2.7/Lib/distutils/command/build.py, line 127, in run self.run_command(cmd_name) File /Users/pythonforios/Python_for_iOS/trunk/Python_for_iOS/python2.7/Lib/distutils/cmd.py, line 326, in run_command self.distribution.run_command(command) File /Users/pythonforios/Python_for_iOS/trunk/Python_for_iOS/python2.7/Lib/distutils/dist.py, line 972, in run_command cmd_obj.run() File /Users/pythonforios/Python_for_iOS/trunk/Python_for_iOS/python2.7/Lib/distutils/command/build_ext.py, line 339, in run self.build_extensions() File ./setup.py, line 282, in build_extensions longest = max([len(e.name) for e in self.extensions]) ValueError: max() arg is an empty sequence make: *** [sharedmods] Error 1 ~~~ An example disabled_module_list from setup.py: ~~~ disabled_module_list = [ # Modules not compatible/not applicable for the iOS 'dl', 'nis', 'gdbm', 'spwd', '_bsddb', '_curses', '_tkinter', 'readline', 'bsddb185', 'ossaudiodev', 'sunaudiodev', '_curses_panel', 'linuxaudiodev', # Modules appended to inittab before embedded initialization '_multiprocessing', 'future_builtins', '_ctypes_test', '_testcapi', '_sqlite3', '_hashlib', '_hotshot', '_scproxy', '_pybsddb', 'imageop', '_ctypes', '_lsprof', '_heapq', '_yaml', '_json', 'math', 'zlib', '_io', 'bz2', 'dbm' ] ~~~ Example Modules/Setup.dist: ~~~ DESTLIB=$(LIBDEST) MACHDESTLIB=$(BINLIBDEST) DESTPATH= SITEPATH= TESTPATH= MACHDEPPATH=:plat-$(MACHDEP) EXTRAMACHDEPPATH= TKPATH=:lib-tk OLDPATH=:lib-old COREPYTHONPATH=$(DESTPATH)$(SITEPATH)$(TESTPATH)$(MACHDEPPATH)$(EXTRAMACHDEPPATH)$(TKPATH)$(OLDPATH) PYTHONPATH=$(COREPYTHONPATH) *static* posix posixmodule.c errno errnomodule.c pwd pwdmodule.c _sre _sre.c _codecs _codecsmodule.c zipimport zipimport.c _symtable symtablemodule.c array arraymodule.c cmath cmathmodule.c _math.c _struct _struct.c time timemodule.c -lm operator operator.c _weakref _weakref.c _random _randommodule.c _collections _collectionsmodule.c itertools itertoolsmodule.c strop stropmodule.c _functools _functoolsmodule.c _elementtree -I$(srcdir)/Modules/expat -DHAVE_EXPAT_CONFIG_H -DUSE_PYEXPAT_CAPI _elementtree.c datetime datetimemodule.c _bisect _bisectmodule.c unicodedata unicodedata.c _locale _localemodule.c fcntl fcntlmodule.c grp grpmodule.c select selectmodule.c mmap mmapmodule.c _csv _csv.c _socket socketmodule.c SSL=/usr/local/OpenSSL_for_iOS _ssl _ssl.c -DUSE_SSL -I$(SSL)/include -I$(SSL)/include/openssl -L$(SSL)/lib -lssl -lcrypto crypt cryptmodule.c termios termios.c resource resource.c audioop audioop.c imageop imageop.c _md5 md5module.c md5.c _sha shamodule.c _sha256 sha256module.c _sha512 sha512module.c timing timingmodule.c syslog syslogmodule.c binascii binascii.c parser parsermodule.c cStringIO cStringIO.c cPickle cPickle.c fpectl fpectlmodule.c fpetest fpetestmodule.c pyexpat expat/xmlparse.c expat/xmlrole.c expat/xmltok.c pyexpat.c -I$(srcdir)/Modules/expat -DHAVE_EXPAT_CONFIG_H -DUSE_PYEXPAT_CAPI _multibytecodec cjkcodecs/multibytecodec.c _codecs_cn cjkcodecs/_codecs_cn.c _codecs_hk cjkcodecs/_codecs_hk.c _codecs_iso2022 cjkcodecs/_codecs_iso2022.c _codecs_kr cjkcodecs/_codecs_kr.c _codecs_tw cjkcodecs/_codecs_tw.c _codecs_jp cjkcodecs/_codecs_jp.c xxsubtype xxsubtype.c -- components: Build messages: 176142 nosy: jhosmer priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: setup.py throws a ValueError when self.extensions is empty type: compile error versions: Python 2.6, Python 2.7, Python 3.1, Python 3.2, Python 3.3, Python 3.4 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16537 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16537] setup.py throws a ValueError when self.extensions is empty
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[issue16537] setup.py throws a ValueError when self.extensions is empty
Jonathan Hosmer added the comment: setup.py patch for 2.7.3 -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file28077/Python-2.7.3-setup.py.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16537 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16537] setup.py throws a ValueError when self.extensions is empty
Jonathan Hosmer added the comment: setup.py patch for 3.0.1 -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file28078/Python-3.0.1-setup.py.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16537 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16537] setup.py throws a ValueError when self.extensions is empty
Jonathan Hosmer added the comment: setup.py patch for 3.1.5 -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file28079/Python-3.1.5-setup.py.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16537 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16537] setup.py throws a ValueError when self.extensions is empty
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