cx_Oracle 5.1.3
What is cx_Oracle? cx_Oracle is a Python extension module that enables access to Oracle for Python 2.x and 3.x and conforms to the Python database API 2.0 specifications with a number of enhancements. Where do I get it? http://cx-oracle.sourceforge.net What's new? http://cx-oracle.readthedocs.org/en/latest/releasenotes.html -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations/
PyGObject 3.12.2 Released
I am pleased to announce version 3.12.2 of the Python bindings for GObject. This is the third release in the stable 3.12.x series for GNOME 3.12. Download The new release is available from ftp.gnome.org: https://download.gnome.org/sources/pygobject/3.12/pygobject-3.12.2.tar.xz (686K) sha256sum: 7e7a3d349acf5bb4b68f8539a42e67958840a67cd4f0341ee9aa49189af2a522 What's new in PyGObject 3.12.2 = - PEP8 fixes - Python 3.4 make check fixes About PyGObject === GObject is a object system used by GTK+, GStreamer and other libraries. PyGObject provides a convenient wrapper for use in Python programs when accessing GObject libraries. Like the GObject library itself PyGObject is licensed under the GNU LGPL, so is suitable for use in both free software and proprietary applications. It is already in use in many applications ranging from small single purpose scripts up to large full featured applications. PyGObject now dynamically accesses any GObject libraries that uses GObject Introspection. It replaces the need for separate modules such as PyGTK, GIO and python-gnome to build a full GNOME 3.0 application. Once new functionality is added to gobject library it is instantly available as a Python API without the need for intermediate Python glue. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations/
PyGObject 3.13.2 Released
I am pleased to announce version 3.13.2 of the Python bindings for GObject. This is the third alpha release of the 3.13.x series which will result in a stable GNOME 3.14 release. This release fixes a many long standing issues and hits a milestone in our testing of having over 1,000 unit tests. Download The new release is available from ftp.gnome.org: https://download.gnome.org/sources/pygobject/3.13/pygobject-3.13.2.tar.xz (693K) sha256sum: 69eb8b642463ca26644a64019ed539c5185ed2abd06600dfc83e793cd028a8de What's new in PyGObject 3.13.2 = - Unification of GLib.GError and GLib.Error. GLib.Error should be used for any exception handling while GLib.GError is a compatibility alias. (Simon Feltman) (#712519) - New API gi.require_foreign() for ensuring cairo marshalling is supported. (Simon Feltman) (#707735) - Automatic marshalling of cairo objects from non-introspected signal arguments. (Simon Feltman) (#694604) - GTypeClass methods are now directly available on Python GObject classes. This allows calling previously un-available methods like: Gtk.Widget.list_child_properties (Johan Dahlin) (#685218) - Gtk.Container.child_get_property and Gtk.Widget.style_get_property now return Python native values and the pass-by-reference value argument is optional. - Add Gtk.Container.child_get and child_set for working with multiple child properties (Simon Feltman) (#685076) - Python 3.4 make check fixes - PEP8 fixes About PyGObject === GObject is a object system used by GTK+, GStreamer and other libraries. PyGObject provides a convenient wrapper for use in Python programs when accessing GObject libraries. Like the GObject library itself PyGObject is licensed under the GNU LGPL, so is suitable for use in both free software and proprietary applications. It is already in use in many applications ranging from small single purpose scripts up to large full featured applications. PyGObject now dynamically accesses any GObject libraries that uses GObject Introspection. It replaces the need for separate modules such as PyGTK, GIO and python-gnome to build a full GNOME 3.0 application. Once new functionality is added to gobject library it is instantly available as a Python API without the need for intermediate Python glue. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations/
Re: Standard Delay Format (SDF) Parsing
Hi Steven, did you get the module to parse the sdf file? regards, pankaj -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: win32serviceutil: ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found
2014.05.25. 23:49 keltezéssel, Terry Reedy írta: On 5/25/2014 1:40 PM, Nagy László Zsolt wrote: import win32service Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found I have no problem loading the same module with Python 2.7. So the above is with ??? Is with 3.4 amd64 Strange thing is that win32serviceutil.py is part of the pywin32 distribution, so I guess I should be able to import it, right? Make sure you have a pywin32 that matches ???. Matching includes python version and bitness. It does. Installed Python 3.4.1 (64-bit) and pywin32-219 (64-bit) taken from here: http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#pywin32 -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Make Python Compilable, convert to Python source to Go
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 25/05/2014 09:17, bookaa bookaa wrote: Maybe I will work on Python 3 later. That's good to know, it'll save me wasting my time looking at it now. This seems like an unnecessarily harsh way of putting it, Mark. Could you be less dismissive of the hard work others put into improving the Python world? -- Devin -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Standard Delay Format (SDF) Parsing
On Monday, 26 May 2014 08:15:53 UTC+2, garg.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Steven, did you get the module to parse the sdf file? regards, pankaj Unfortunately not. I actually can't remember why I wanted/needed this. I guess that it wasn't that important since I didn't actually do any parsing. Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Make Python Compilable, convert to Python source to Go
Ben Finney, 26.05.2014 05:20: bookaa bookaa writes: Generally, people consider Python as a script language. It has high development efficiency but run too slowly Which Python implementation are you talking about? Run time is not a property of the language. It is a property of the language implementation. That, plus the fact that talking about a language or language implementation being slow actually makes no sense at all without referring to a specific piece of code or at least an application scenario in which it is (provably) slow when compared to something (specific) else. Stefan -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Hello and sorry for disturbing !
Greetings from Romania,sorry for my english,i just wanted to ask you if i need any other software/program beside the one software from the next pagehttps://www.python.org/downloads/ or is it enough the software on that page , download and install it ? This question goes for both windows 7 ubuntu (ubuntu). Il be waiting for your answer , thank you verry much ! Barbos RauTimisoara,Romania ! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: compiled cx_freeze
Let Christoph know, he is very responsive and extremely helpful. He did help. The new version is available on his site and it works. Thank you. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Make Python Compilable, convert to Python source to Go
On 26/05/2014 07:31, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 25/05/2014 09:17, bookaa bookaa wrote: Maybe I will work on Python 3 later. That's good to know, it'll save me wasting my time looking at it now. This seems like an unnecessarily harsh way of putting it, Mark. Could you be less dismissive of the hard work others put into improving the Python world? -- Devin Like Python 2.8? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Hello and sorry for disturbing !
On Monday, May 26, 2014 2:57:54 PM UTC+5:30, Radu Ioan Barbos wrote: Greetings from Romania,sorry for my english,i just wanted to ask you if i need any other software/program beside the one software from the next page https://www.python.org/downloads/ or is it enough the software on that page , download and install it ? This question goes for both windows 7 ubuntu (ubuntu). Il be waiting for your answer , thank you verry much ! Barbos RauTimisoara,Romania ! Hello and welcome! For ubuntu you should need nothing for python. In other words python should run on a basic ubuntu installation. From the shell just type python and the interpreter should start. For more specialized work there are dozens (maybe hundreds?) of packages in the apt repos. Better to use that rather than trying to directly download. For windows, I guess thats the link you posted. However I will let someone more knowledgeable give the details -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Hello and sorry for disturbing !
On 26.05.2014 13:27, Rustom Mody wrote: On Monday, May 26, 2014 2:57:54 PM UTC+5:30, Radu Ioan Barbos wrote: Greetings from Romania,sorry for my english,i just wanted to ask you if i need any other software/program beside the one software from the next page https://www.python.org/downloads/ or is it enough the software on that page , download and install it ? This question goes for both windows 7 ubuntu (ubuntu). Il be waiting for your answer , thank you verry much ! Barbos RauTimisoara,Romania ! Hello and welcome! For ubuntu you should need nothing for python. In other words python should run on a basic ubuntu installation. From the shell just type python and the interpreter should start. If you're planning to use Python3, which is arguably (see various other threads on this list) a good idea for a beginner, make sure you upgrade to the latest Ubuntu LTS version (14.04 Trusty Tahr). This comes with Python 3.4 available from the shell as python3. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Build tools, and Python 3 dependencies (was: How keep Python 3 moving forward)
In article mailman.10329.1401074189.18130.python-l...@python.org, Ben Finney b...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Roy Smith r...@panix.com writes: Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote: And I don't really see why you would consider fabric a dependency that keeps you from switching to Py3. In many cases, you can just keep running it in Py2 as you did before. In theory, that's possible. In practice, it would mean having to maintain two different versions of Python Why would using Fabric â a build tool â require you to âmaintain two different versions of Pythonâ? You only need to maintain the build scripts, not Python itself. Because to run these tools, we need have both versions installed on every machine. So, we don't need to maintain Python in the sense of building it from source, but we do need to have our deployment scripts install it everyplace it's needed (or, at least, make sure it's installed as part of some base deployment package) and test everything against both. That makes even less sense. The build system runs under whatever version of Python it needs, and your code runs under whatever version of Python you like. The two don't affect each other at run time, and don't affect each other's testing dependencies. The are tightly integrated, and share code. At least one of us seems to be misunderstanding what is required. Yes :-) When you start working with large systems, reducing complexity becomes important. Every time you add a component, it comes with its own set of dependencies and constraints. Those things come back to bite you when you least expect it. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: win32serviceutil: ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found
Original Message - From: Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu To: python-list@python.org Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 11:49 PM Subject: Re: win32serviceutil: ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found On 5/25/2014 1:40 PM, Nagy László Zsolt wrote: import win32service Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found I have no problem loading the same module with Python 2.7. So the above is with ??? Strange thing is that win32serviceutil.py is part of the pywin32 distribution, so I guess I should be able to import it, right? Make sure you have a pywin32 that matches ???. Matching includes python version and bitness. In addition, c:\python27\DLLs should also be on your %PATH%: setx PATH %PATH%;c:\python27\DLLs -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: win32serviceutil: ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found
Strange thing is that win32serviceutil.py is part of the pywin32 distribution, so I guess I should be able to import it, right? Make sure you have a pywin32 that matches ???. Matching includes python version and bitness. In addition, c:\python27\DLLs should also be on your %PATH%: setx PATH %PATH%;c:\python27\DLLs Just curious: what if I don't have python2.7 installed at all? How on earth python3.4 + pywin32 requires DLL files from python2.7 ? BTW it did not help. Here is my path: Path=C:\Python34\;C:\Python34\Scripts;C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files\SlikSvn\bin;C:\texlive\2013\bin\win32;c:\Python34\DLLs;c:\Python27\DLLs I have both Python27 and Python34 installed. Python 3.4: import win32service still throws ImportError: DLL load failed. Python 2.7: import win32service succeeds Build information: Python 3.4.1 (v3.4.1:c0e311e010fc, May 18 2014, 10:45:13) [MSC v.1600 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32 It is the official latest. pywin32 is also the latest (build 219). -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: win32serviceutil: ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found
On 26/05/2014 14:24, Nagy László Zsolt wrote: Strange thing is that win32serviceutil.py is part of the pywin32 distribution, so I guess I should be able to import it, right? Make sure you have a pywin32 that matches ???. Matching includes python version and bitness. In addition, c:\python27\DLLs should also be on your %PATH%: setx PATH %PATH%;c:\python27\DLLs Just curious: what if I don't have python2.7 installed at all? How on earth python3.4 + pywin32 requires DLL files from python2.7 ? BTW it did not help. Here is my path: Path=C:\Python34\;C:\Python34\Scripts;C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files\SlikSvn\bin;C:\texlive\2013\bin\win32;c:\Python34\DLLs;c:\Python27\DLLs I have both Python27 and Python34 installed. Python 3.4: import win32service still throws ImportError: DLL load failed. Python 2.7: import win32service succeeds Build information: Python 3.4.1 (v3.4.1:c0e311e010fc, May 18 2014, 10:45:13) [MSC v.1600 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32 It is the official latest. pywin32 is also the latest (build 219). Nagy -- could you post to the python-win32 list? There's nothing wrong with putting it out here, but I don't know if the pywin32 guys hang out here, and I know they definitely do there. (Which is also lower volume). I'm not seeing any changes to the win32service code, but a missing DLL error is almost always about some combination of permissions / UAC on install. Adding anything to your PATH is unlikely to help (unless you have a truly outlandish PATH). I'll try to reproduce later if I can but I don't have time right now. TJG -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Hello and sorry for disturbing !
On 26/05/2014 10:27, Radu Ioan Barbos wrote: Greetings from Romania,sorry for my english,i just wanted to ask you if i need any other software/program beside the one software from the next pagehttps://www.python.org/downloads/ https://www.python.org/downloads/ or is it enough the software on that page , download and install it ? This question goes for both windows 7 ubuntu (ubuntu). Il be waiting for your answer , thank you verry much ! Barbos Rau Timisoara,Romania ! As you've had answers to your questions I'll just say please don't apologise for your English, it's an extremely difficult language to learn. Thank you. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Verify JSON Data
Hi Guys, Would someone let me know how to verify JSON data in python. There are so many modules available to verify XML file, however i didn't find any good module to verify JSON Data. After searching on the internet i came across JSON module, however it only coverts the JSON data to python. it's good, however the problem comes when JSON response is very large. Is there any module through which i can verify JSON file like DOM or Object oriented way. ( i.e. data.key) -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: win32serviceutil: ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found
On Monday, May 26, 2014 6:32:19 AM UTC-7, Tim Golden wrote: On 26/05/2014 14:24, Nagy L�szl� Zsolt wrote: Strange thing is that win32serviceutil.py is part of the pywin32 distribution, so I guess I should be able to import it, right? Make sure you have a pywin32 that matches ???. Matching includes python version and bitness. In addition, c:\python27\DLLs should also be on your %PATH%: setx PATH %PATH%;c:\python27\DLLs Just curious: what if I don't have python2.7 installed at all? How on earth python3.4 + pywin32 requires DLL files from python2.7 ? BTW it did not help. Here is my path: Path=C:\Python34\;C:\Python34\Scripts;C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files\SlikSvn\bin;C:\texlive\2013\bin\win32;c:\Python34\DLLs;c:\Python27\DLLs I have both Python27 and Python34 installed. Python 3.4: import win32service still throws ImportError: DLL load failed. Python 2.7: import win32service succeeds Build information: Python 3.4.1 (v3.4.1:c0e311e010fc, May 18 2014, 10:45:13) [MSC v.1600 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32 It is the official latest. pywin32 is also the latest (build 219). Nagy -- could you post to the python-win32 list? There's nothing wrong with putting it out here, but I don't know if the pywin32 guys hang out here, and I know they definitely do there. (Which is also lower volume). I'm not seeing any changes to the win32service code, but a missing DLL error is almost always about some combination of permissions / UAC on install. Adding anything to your PATH is unlikely to help (unless you have a truly outlandish PATH). I'll try to reproduce later if I can but I don't have time right now. TJG Python 3.4 does not run any bdist_wininst postinstall scripts. Try to run `C:\Python34\python.exe C:\Python34\Scripts\pywin32_postinstall.py -install` manually from an elevated command prompt. Christoph -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: confused about the different built-in functions in Python
snip On 5/25/14 7:55 PM, Deb Wyatt wrote: I am confused about how various built-in functions are called. Some are called with dot notation snip How do you know/remember which way to call them? TIA, Deb in WA, USA It can be confusing. Generally, built-in functions (like sum, len, etc) are used when the operation could apply to many different types. For example, sum() can be used with any iterable that produces addable things. Operations that are defined only for a single type (like .isalpha as a string operation) are usually defined as methods on the type. This is not a black/white distinction, I'm sure there are interesting counter-examples. But this is the general principle. -- Ned Batchelder, http://nedbatchelder.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Thank you for answering. I meant to send this to the tutor list, but messed up. So, I guess there isn't a magic answer to this one, and I'll learn as I learn the language. Have a great day. Deb in WA, USA FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Verify JSON Data
In article e26d3f14-ac97-4abd-bdfc-699d9ed21...@googlegroups.com, gaurangns...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, Would someone let me know how to verify JSON data in python. There are so many modules available to verify XML file, however i didn't find any good module to verify JSON Data. Python comes with a built-in json module. Just use json.load() or json.loads() to parse your JSON data. The first call reads from a string, the second on from a file, but in all other ways, they're identical. There are a bunch of third-party modules (ujson, etc) which are faster, but fundamentally, they're all the same. If I understand you correctly, you're reading a JSON document which is so large that if you store the converted data as a Python object, you run out of memory? If that's the case, I'm not sure if there's a good pure Python solution. I don't know of any json modules which parse, but don't store, the data. Depending on what operating system you're on, there may be a command-line utility which parse JSON. For example, on Ubuntu linux, there's json_xs. Perhaps shell out to that, use the -t null output format, redirect the output to /dev/null, and see what exit status you get: # Good JSON $ echo '[1, 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 0 # Bad JSON $ echo '[1; 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 255 Wrap this up in a subprocess.check_output() call, and you're done. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Verify JSON Data
On 26/05/14 16:26, gaurangns...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, Would someone let me know how to verify JSON data in python. There are so many modules available to verify XML file, however i didn't find any good module to verify JSON Data. Hi, Spyne re-implements (a useful subset of) Xml Schema validation so that it can be applied to other document formats like json. It's 'soft' validation in Spyne's terms. http://spyne.io Disclosure: I'm the author of Spyne and starting to feel like I'm talking a little bit too much about my project on this list :) Hth, Burak -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Verify JSON Data
On Monday 26 May 2014 11:19:53 Roy Smith did opine And Gene did reply: In article e26d3f14-ac97-4abd-bdfc-699d9ed21...@googlegroups.com, gaurangns...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, Would someone let me know how to verify JSON data in python. There are so many modules available to verify XML file, however i didn't find any good module to verify JSON Data. Python comes with a built-in json module. Just use json.load() or json.loads() to parse your JSON data. The first call reads from a string, the second on from a file, but in all other ways, they're identical. There are a bunch of third-party modules (ujson, etc) which are faster, but fundamentally, they're all the same. If I understand you correctly, you're reading a JSON document which is so large that if you store the converted data as a Python object, you run out of memory? If that's the case, I'm not sure if there's a good pure Python solution. I don't know of any json modules which parse, but don't store, the data. Depending on what operating system you're on, there may be a command-line utility which parse JSON. For example, on Ubuntu linux, there's json_xs. Perhaps shell out to that, use the -t null output format, redirect the output to /dev/null, and see what exit status you get: # Good JSON $ echo '[1, 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 0 # Bad JSON $ echo '[1; 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 255 Wrap this up in a subprocess.check_output() call, and you're done. Just for SG, and without checking the version numbers of anything, this may not be all that bulletproof a test: gene@coyote:~$ echo '[1, 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 127 gene@coyote:~$ echo '[1; 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 127 Old, buntu 10.04.4 LTS system, all up to date security patches wise. kernal 3.13.9, PAE on a quad core phenom. Interesting result. Source of error? DamnedifIknow. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Verify JSON Data
On Mon, 26 May 2014 07:26:20 -0700, gaurangnshah wrote:
Is there any module through which i can verify JSON file like DOM or
Object oriented way. ( i.e. data.key)
Where is the json data coming from? What do you mean by verify?
https://docs.python.org/2/library/json.html#encoders-and-decoders
explains how json object strings get decoded to python data types. A json
object string should at the highest level be either an object or an
array, although the python decoder can also handle strings, numbers and a
few special values.
Are you trying to check that the json string is valid json code (ie json
lint) or are you trying to check that it meets some specific structure,
in which case the only way to verify it is to decode it and check the
structure.
Note that not all valid python structures can be successfully converted
to json objects, for example a python dictionary can have tuples as keys,
but a json object can not have an array as an attribute name. For example:
d = { (1,2,3):'one',('a','b','c'):'two' }
print d
print json.JSONEncoder().encode( d )
Gives a TypeError in the json code keys must be a string
If you have a debian based linux distro, you can get jsonlint with:
sudo apt-get install python-demjson
which provides a command line json syntax checker and formatter.
Otherwise, google json lint, there are several web based tools that seem
to be able to do something similar.
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Re: Verify JSON Data
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:37 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@shentel.net wrote: Just for SG, and without checking the version numbers of anything, this may not be all that bulletproof a test: gene@coyote:~$ echo '[1, 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 127 gene@coyote:~$ echo '[1; 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 127 Old, buntu 10.04.4 LTS system, all up to date security patches wise. kernal 3.13.9, PAE on a quad core phenom. Interesting result. Source of error? DamnedifIknow. Return value 127 might well mean that json_xs isn't installed. It's very difficult for a non-program to tell you whether JSON is valid or not :) So I'd be checking 'which json_xs' before continuing. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Verify JSON Data
In article mailman.10347.1401119046.18130.python-l...@python.org, Gene Heskett ghesk...@shentel.net wrote: $ echo '[1, 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 0 $ echo '[1; 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 255 gene@coyote:~$ echo '[1, 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 127 gene@coyote:~$ echo '[1; 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 127 I don't see what the problem is. On average, we got the same result :-) -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Verify JSON Data
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:55 AM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: In article mailman.10347.1401119046.18130.python-l...@python.org, Gene Heskett ghesk...@shentel.net wrote: $ echo '[1, 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 0 $ echo '[1; 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 255 gene@coyote:~$ echo '[1, 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 127 gene@coyote:~$ echo '[1; 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 127 I don't see what the problem is. On average, we got the same result :-) Ahh but if you were using Python 3, those averages would be 127.5 each. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Verify JSON Data
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: Python comes with a built-in json module. Just use json.load() or json.loads() to parse your JSON data. The first call reads from a string, the second on from a file, but in all other ways, they're identical. Minor nit-pick: they're the other way around - load() reads from a file and loads() reads from a string. I wouldn't bother commenting, except that load() could plausibly mean load from string, and 'str' object has no attribute 'read' might be a bit of a surprise else :) ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Verify JSON Data
On Monday 26 May 2014 11:55:29 Roy Smith did opine And Gene did reply: In article mailman.10347.1401119046.18130.python-l...@python.org, Gene Heskett ghesk...@shentel.net wrote: $ echo '[1, 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 0 $ echo '[1; 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 255 gene@coyote:~$ echo '[1, 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 127 gene@coyote:~$ echo '[1; 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 127 I don't see what the problem is. On average, we got the same result :-) If I was still smoking Roy, I'd ask for a hit on whatever you are having. :) Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Verify JSON Data
On Monday 26 May 2014 11:58:06 Chris Angelico did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:37 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@shentel.net wrote: Just for SG, and without checking the version numbers of anything, this may not be all that bulletproof a test: gene@coyote:~$ echo '[1, 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 127 gene@coyote:~$ echo '[1; 2, 3]' | json_xs -t null 2/dev/null; echo $? 127 Old, buntu 10.04.4 LTS system, all up to date security patches wise. kernal 3.13.9, PAE on a quad core phenom. Interesting result. Source of error? DamnedifIknow. Return value 127 might well mean that json_xs isn't installed. It's very difficult for a non-program to tell you whether JSON is valid or not :) So I'd be checking 'which json_xs' before continuing. ChrisA And locate comes back empty. So much for that. ;-) Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python is horribly slow compared to bash!!
On 22.05.2014 15:43, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: I can take the same application and replace 'z' by ..., and ... No, I do not win :-( . Python fails. That's nothing. I can make an application a TOUSAND times slower by changing the constant 1 to a 2. Python is such utter garbage! import time def myfunction(constant): if constant == 1: time.sleep(1) else: time.sleep(1000) constant = 1 myfunction(constant) Now let's all code Itanium assembler, yes? Cheers, Johannes -- Wo hattest Du das Beben nochmal GENAU vorhergesagt? Zumindest nicht öffentlich! Ah, der neueste und bis heute genialste Streich unsere großen Kosmologen: Die Geheim-Vorhersage. - Karl Kaos über Rüdiger Thomas in dsa hidbv3$om2$1...@speranza.aioe.org -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Send commands to USB device in Python
Hi,
I saw your thread on SourceFourge
(http://sourceforge.net/p/pyusb/mailman/message/31969943/), but I don't have an
account.
I also have MTI RU-824 reader. I sniffed the USB communication in the Windows
demo program and I saw that the header should be written backward.
So rather than:
HEADER = bytearray(MTIC)
try:
HEADER = bytearray(MTIC[::-1])
I tested it and it works.
On Tuesday, 11 February 2014 06:55:03 UTC+1, Setia Budi wrote:
Hi fellows,
I am facing difficulties in order to send USB commands to an RFID reader.
This is the command reference of the device:
https://github.com/mti-rfid/RFID_Explorer
I am working with the MTI RU-824 model.
The manufacturer of the device only provide a driver for Windows (using
.Net), but we need to run the device on Linux. That's why I need to write few
lines of code in Python as a new driver.
I am using PyUSB for accessing the device, and this is few lines of my code:
import usb.core
import usb.util
import sys
VENDOR_ID = 0x24e9
PRODUCT_ID = 0x0824
device = usb.core.find(idVendor=VENDOR_ID, idProduct=PRODUCT_ID)
if device is None:
sys.exit(Could not find Id System Barcode Reader.)
else:
print 'Device detected'
device.set_configuration()
cfg = device.get_active_configuration()
interface_number = cfg[(0, 0)].bInterfaceNumber
alternate_setting = usb.control.get_interface(device, interface_number)
usb_interface = usb.util.find_descriptor(
cfg, bInterfaceNumber=interface_number,
bAlternateSetting=alternate_setting
)
endpoint_out = usb.util.find_descriptor(
usb_interface,
# match the first OUT endpoint
custom_match=lambda e: usb.util.endpoint_direction(e.bEndpointAddress) ==
usb.util.ENDPOINT_OUT
)
endpoint_in = usb.util.find_descriptor(
usb_interface,
# match the first IN endpoint
custom_match=lambda e: usb.util.endpoint_direction(e.bEndpointAddress) ==
usb.util.ENDPOINT_IN
)
endpoint_out.write('0x01')
print endpoint_in.read(len('0x01'), 1000)
=
My question is on the last 2 lines.
I am using endpoint_out to send a command and endpoint_in to read data from
the reader. Am I correct?
The problem is, when I run the code, there is an error message like this:
usb.core.USBError: [Errno 110] Operation timed out
Anyone can give a clue?
Thank you.
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Re: Verify JSON Data
On 2014-05-26, gaurangns...@gmail.com gaurangns...@gmail.com wrote: Would someone let me know how to verify JSON data in python. Parse the file into a data structure with whatever parser you like, then write a program to go thorugh the data structure and verify it. There are so many modules available to verify XML file, however i didn't find any good module to verify JSON Data. XML has various schema languages which can be used to write a definition of what is valid and what isn't valid. There really is anything like that in widespread use for JSON. After searching on the internet i came across JSON module, however it only coverts the JSON data to python. it's good, however the problem comes when JSON response is very large. What's the problem? Is there any module through which i can verify JSON file like DOM or Object oriented way. ( i.e. data.key) I don't know what you're asking. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Actually, what I'd at like is a little toy gmail.comspaceship!! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: confused about the different built-in functions in Python
On 5/26/2014 11:15 AM, Deb Wyatt wrote: snip On 5/25/14 7:55 PM, Deb Wyatt wrote: I am confused about how various built-in functions are called. Some are called with dot notation snip How do you know/remember which way to call them? It can be confusing. Generally, built-in functions (like sum, len, etc) are used when the operation could apply to many different types. For example, sum() can be used with any iterable that produces addable things. Operations that are defined only for a single type (like .isalpha as a string operation) are usually defined as methods on the type. This is not a black/white distinction, I'm sure there are interesting counter-examples. But this is the general principle. Part of the answer is Python's history. Up to about 2.1, most built-in types did not have methods, though I know lists did. Ints and strings did not, or chr and ord might have been int.chr() and str.ord(). (The current string methods were originally functions in the string module.) Thank you for answering. I meant to send this to the tutor list, but messed up. So, I guess there isn't a magic answer to this one, and I'll learn as I learn the language. Have a great day. -- Terry Jan Reedy -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: confused about the different built-in functions in Python
Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu: Part of the answer is Python's history. Up to about 2.1, most built-in types did not have methods, though I know lists did. Ints and strings did not, or chr and ord might have been int.chr() and str.ord(). (The current string methods were originally functions in the string module.) Ints still aren't quite like regular objects. For example: x = 500 x.__str__ is x.__str__ False Marko -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: win32serviceutil: ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found [SOLVED]
Python 3.4 does not run any bdist_wininst postinstall scripts. Try to run `C:\Python34\python.exe C:\Python34\Scripts\pywin32_postinstall.py -install` manually from an elevated command prompt. Christoph C:\C:\Python34\python.exe C:\Python34\Scripts\pywin32_postinstall.py -install Copied pythoncom34.dll to C:\Python34\pythoncom34.dll Copied pywintypes34.dll to C:\Python34\pywintypes34.dll You do not have the permissions to install COM objects. The sample COM objects were not registered. - Software\Python\PythonCore\3.4\Help[None]=None - Software\Python\PythonCore\3.4\Help\Pythonwin Reference[None]='C:\\Python34\\ Lib\\site-packages\\PyWin32.chm' Pythonwin has been registered in context menu Creating directory C:\Python34\Lib\site-packages\win32com\gen_py Can't install shortcuts - 'C:\\Users\\Laci\\AppData\\Roaming\\Microsoft\\Windows \\Start Menu\\Programs\\Python 3.4' is not a folder The pywin32 extensions were successfully installed. C:\python Python 3.4.1 (v3.4.1:c0e311e010fc, May 18 2014, 10:45:13) [MSC v.1600 64 bit (AM D64)] on win32 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. import win32service Thanks! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: win32serviceutil: ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found
Python 3.4 does not run any bdist_wininst postinstall scripts. Try to run `C:\Python34\python.exe C:\Python34\Scripts\pywin32_postinstall.py -install` manually from an elevated command prompt. Much better when ran as an administrator: C:\Python\Projects\testC:\Python34\python.exe C:\Python34\Scripts\pywin32_postinstall.py -install Copied pythoncom34.dll to C:\Windows\system32\pythoncom34.dll Copied pywintypes34.dll to C:\Windows\system32\pywintypes34.dll Registered: Python.Interpreter Registered: Python.Dictionary Registered: Python - Software\Python\PythonCore\3.4\Help[None]=None - Software\Python\PythonCore\3.4\Help\Pythonwin Reference[None]='C:\\Python34\\Lib\\site-packages\\PyWin32.chm' Pythonwin has been registered in context menu Shortcut for Pythonwin created Shortcut to documentation created The pywin32 extensions were successfully installed. I wonder why is a difference between 2.7 and 3.4 in this? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: confused about the different built-in functions in Python
On 26.05.2014 21:00, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu: Part of the answer is Python's history. Up to about 2.1, most built-in types did not have methods, though I know lists did. Ints and strings did not, or chr and ord might have been int.chr() and str.ord(). (The current string methods were originally functions in the string module.) Ints still aren't quite like regular objects. For example: x = 500 x.__str__ is x.__str__ False Just like every other object: class Example(object): pass ... e = Example() e.__str__ is e.__str__ False Python creates a new bound method object every time. A bound method object is a callable object that keeps a strong reference to the function, class and object. The bound method object adds the object as first argument to the function (aka 'self'). Christian -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: confused about the different built-in functions in Python
Christian Heimes christ...@python.org: Python creates a new bound method object every time. A bound method object is a callable object that keeps a strong reference to the function, class and object. The bound method object adds the object as first argument to the function (aka 'self'). I stand corrected. I had thought the trampoline (bound method object) was created once and for all. Marko -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: confused about the different built-in functions in Python
Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net: Christian Heimes christ...@python.org: Python creates a new bound method object every time. A bound method object is a callable object that keeps a strong reference to the function, class and object. The bound method object adds the object as first argument to the function (aka 'self'). I stand corrected. I had thought the trampoline (bound method object) was created once and for all. Sure enough. The principle is explicitly specified in URL: https://docs.python.org/3.2/reference/datamodel.html#index-46. Thus: class X: ... def f(self): ... print(Hello) ... x = X() x.f() Hello def f(): print(Meh) ... x.f = f x.f() Meh delattr(x, f) x.f() Hello IOW, you can override a method with setattr() but you cannot delete a method with delattr(). Marko -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: confused about the different built-in functions in Python
Marko Rauhamaa wrote: IOW, you can override a method with setattr() but you cannot delete a method with delattr(). Actually, you can -- but you need to delete it from the class, not the instance: delattr(X, 'f') x.f() Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module AttributeError: 'X' object has no attribute 'f' -- Greg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Command prompt not shown when running Python script with subprocess on Windows
I have written a Python script with a wxPython GUI that uses subprocess.Popen to open a list of files that the user provides. One of my users would like to be able to run a Python script with my application. The Python script he is trying to run uses the command line and gets keyboard input from the user several times. The problem is that if the Python script is run on Windows with subprocess.Popen, no command prompt is shown (my GUI application is a .pyw file). The user's script runs silently but then does not quit because it is waiting for input, but there is no way for the input to be given, since there is no command prompt visible. I think this may be related to the fact that I am calling subprocess.Popen with shell=True. I tried calling it with shell=False (the default), but then I got an error that the file is not a valid Win32 application. I would appreciate any help with this problem. -- Timothy -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Make Python Compilable, convert to Python source to Go
On Mon, 26 May 2014 12:17:10 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 26/05/2014 07:31, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 25/05/2014 09:17, bookaa bookaa wrote: Maybe I will work on Python 3 later. That's good to know, it'll save me wasting my time looking at it now. This seems like an unnecessarily harsh way of putting it, Mark. Could you be less dismissive of the hard work others put into improving the Python world? -- Devin Like Python 2.8? I think you may have drifted into an alternate universe. There is no Python 2.8 and nobody has done any hard work on writing it, so I have no idea what point you think you are making. (That's the trouble with snappy one-line answers to serious questions -- they often make no sense to anyone outside of your head.) The OP has done a lot of hard work at writing a Python 2 to Go translator (allegedly -- we haven't actually been shown his project) and assuming it works and done what he says it does, that's valuable. Python 2.7 will be part of the Python ecosystem until at least 2022. Furthermore, adapting an existing Python2 to Go compiler to work with Python3 will be much easier than writing one from scratch. -- Steven D'Aprano http://import-that.dreamwidth.org/ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: confused about the different built-in functions in Python
On Mon, 26 May 2014 23:58:37 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net: Christian Heimes christ...@python.org: Python creates a new bound method object every time. A bound method object is a callable object that keeps a strong reference to the function, class and object. The bound method object adds the object as first argument to the function (aka 'self'). I stand corrected. I had thought the trampoline (bound method object) was created once and for all. Sure enough. The principle is explicitly specified in URL: https://docs.python.org/3.2/reference/datamodel.html#index-46. Thus: class X: ... def f(self): ... print(Hello) ... x = X() x.f() Hello def f(): print(Meh) ... x.f = f x.f() Meh delattr(x, f) x.f() Hello IOW, you can override a method with setattr() but you cannot delete a method with delattr(). Of course you can. You just need to know where methods are found. Hint: we write this: class Example: def method(self): ... not this: class Example: def __init__(self): def method(self): ... self.method = method Methods are attributes of the class, not the instance. Like all class attributes, you can retrieve them by doing a lookup on the instance, you can shadow them by storing an attribute of the same name on the instance, but you cannot rebind or delete them directly on the instance, since they aren't on the instance. -- Steven D'Aprano http://import-that.dreamwidth.org/ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: confused about the different built-in functions in Python
On 5/26/2014 4:32 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: I stand corrected. I had thought the trampoline (bound method object) was created once and for all. Assuming that bound methods are immutable, this is an implementation detail, either way. However, it is common for a specific method to be called just once on a specific instance. If you have a mixed-case string Ss and want the lowercase version, ss = Ss.lower(), you keep ss around as long as needed. If the bound method is needed repeatedly, you can keep *that* around too. stack = [] spush = stack.append spop = stack.pop for item in it: spush(item) while stack and condition: p = process(spop) ... -- Terry Jan Reedy -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Build tools, and Python 3 dependencies (was: How keep Python 3 moving forward)
On Mon, 26 May 2014 08:44:51 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: That makes even less sense. The build system runs under whatever version of Python it needs, and your code runs under whatever version of Python you like. The two don't affect each other at run time, and don't affect each other's testing dependencies. The are tightly integrated, and share code. Well there's your problem, right there. Tight coupling is a *bad* thing, you're supposed to minimize it, not maximize it :-) I'm having trouble understanding why your build system should be integrated with your production code. You should, in principle, be able to replace your build system with one written in Perl or bash without having to touch a single line of your application. If what you say is correct, your design tends towards the sort of perplexing errors like We added extra debugging code to the build script, and now the application won't print! The programmer's attitude towards tightly coupled code ought to be like Batman's attitude towards crime: something to be stamped out, at any cost, unless it is absolutely for the purpose of a higher cause. In Batman's case that higher cause is justice and the good of Gotham City. What's your higher cause? -- Steven D'Aprano http://import-that.dreamwidth.org/ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Build tools, and Python 3 dependencies (was: How keep Python 3 moving forward)
Oh, I was a bit trigger-happy with my earlier post. On Mon, 26 May 2014 08:44:51 -0400, Roy Smith wrote about his build system and production code: The are tightly integrated, and share code. [...] When you start working with large systems, reducing complexity becomes important. Every time you add a component, it comes with its own set of dependencies and constraints. Those things come back to bite you when you least expect it. How ironic that you have now got *more* constraints, *stronger* dependencies and *more* complexity than if you had written a less tightly coupled system. Complexity is not, in and of itself, the most serious problem. But coupling is. You're now constrained that you cannot make changes to your application without simultaneously changing your build system. Although you have *fewer* dependencies, they've locked you in to a single course of action even more tightly than if you had more. At least that's the impression that you have given. -- Steven D'Aprano http://import-that.dreamwidth.org/ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Build tools, and Python 3 dependencies (was: How keep Python 3 moving forward)
On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:29:13 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 26 May 2014 08:44:51 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: That makes even less sense. The build system runs under whatever version of Python it needs, and your code runs under whatever version of Python you like. The two don't affect each other at run time, and don't affect each other's testing dependencies. The are tightly integrated, and share code. Well there's your problem, right there. Tight coupling is a *bad* thing, you're supposed to minimize it, not maximize it :-) I'm having trouble understanding why your build system should be integrated with your production code. You should, in principle, be able to replace your build system with one written in Perl or bash without having to touch a single line of your application. If what you say is In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not. s/theory/principle [Whether thats Einsten or Yogi Berra I am not sure. I guess they are the same in principle :D ] Somewhat more seriously, I see this as a problem with all the super-kewl languages. I know it most closely with python and haskell but I think its true across the board. It goes something like this: - Language L is super-kewl - Its so kewl it spawns its own ecosystem - The ecosystem grows - World domination is almost in sight -- everything to be done with language L - Unfortunately super-kewl ≠ omnipotent - Things start crumbling at the edges Case(s) in point: debian's apt is a mishmash of perl,shell etc However it is more powerful than python's pip or Haskell's cabal. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Verify JSON Data
On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 12:05:58 AM UTC+5:30, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2014-05-26, gaurang shah wrote: Would someone let me know how to verify JSON data in python. Parse the file into a data structure with whatever parser you like, then write a program to go thorugh the data structure and verify it. There are so many modules available to verify XML file, however i didn't find any good module to verify JSON Data. XML has various schema languages which can be used to write a definition of what is valid and what isn't valid. There really is anything like that in widespread use for JSON. Google offers: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/jsonschema http://python-jsonschema.readthedocs.org/en/latest/validate/ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
[issue20383] Add a keyword-only spec argument to types.ModuleType
Eric Snow added the comment:
Okay, I didn't read closely enough. :) It may be worth updating the title.
FWIW, the name module_from_spec confused me at first because my brain
interpreted that as load_from_spec. Keeping the name and purpose more
focused might be helpful. I have comments below to that effect.
If your proposed change still makes sense, could we keep it simpler for now?
Something like this:
# in importlib.util
def module_from_spec(spec, module=None):
...
methods = _bootstrap._SpecMethods(spec)
if module is None:
return methods.create()
else:
methods.init_module_attrs(methods)
return module
Keeping the 2 methods on _SpecMethods is helpful for the PEP 406 (ImportEngine)
superseder that I still want to get back to for 3.5. :)
--
This serves two purposes. One is that it abstracts the
loader.create_module() dance out so that's no longer a worry.
I'm not sure what dance you mean here and what the worry is.
But more crucially it also means that if you have the function
create the module for you then it will be returned with all of
its attributes set without having to worry about forgetting that
step.
So we would discourage calling ModuleType directly and encourage the use of a
function in importlib.util that is equivalent to _SpecMethods.create(). That
sounds good to me. The use case for creating module objects directly is a
pretty advanced one, but having a public API for that would still be good.
From this point of view I'd expect it to just look like this:
def new_module(spec):
return _SpecMethods(spec).create()
or given what I expect is the common use case currently:
def new_module(name, loader):
spec = spec_from_loader(name, loader)
return _SpecMethods(spec).create()
or together:
def new_module(spec_or_name, /, loader=None):
if isinstance(spec_or_name, str):
name = spec_or_name
if loader is None:
raise TypeError('missing loader')
spec = spec_from_loader(name, loader)
else:
if loader is not None:
raise TypeError('got unexpected keyword argument loader')
spec = spec_or_name
return _SpecMethods(spec).create()
To kill 2 birds with 1 stone, you could even make that the new signature of
ModuleType(), which would just do the equivalent under the hood. That way
people keep using the same API that they already are (no need to communicate a
new one to them), but they still get the appropriate attributes set properly.
The module argument is just for convenience in those
instances where you truly only want to override the module
creation dance for some reason and really just want the
attribute setting bit.
Perhaps it would be better to have a separate function for that (equivalent to
just _SpecMethods.init_module_attrs()). However, isn't that an even more
uncommon use case outside of the import system itself?
About the only other thing I can think of that people might
still want is something like `importlib.util.load(spec)`
I agree it's somewhat orthogonal. I'll address comments to issue #21235.
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[issue21235] importlib's spec module create algorithm is not exposed
Eric Snow added the comment:
How about this replacement for direct use of Loader.load_module():
# in importlib.util
def load(spec_or_name, /, **kwargs): # or load_from_spec
if isinstance(spec_or_name, str):
name = spec_or_name
if not kwargs:
raise TypeError('missing loader')
spec = spec_from_loader(name, **kwargs)
else:
if kwargs:
raise TypeError('got unexpected keyword arguments')
spec = spec_or_name
return _SpecMethods(spec).load()
(See a similar proposal for new_module() in msg219135, issue #20383).
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[issue21579] Python 3.4: tempfile.close attribute does not work
Berker Peksag added the comment: See issue 18879 for more information about the change. -- nosy: +berker.peksag, pitrou ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21579 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue18879] tempfile.NamedTemporaryFile can close the file too early, if not assigning to a variable
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[issue8743] set() operators don't work with collections.Set instances
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[issue21481] Argpase Namespace object methods __eq__ and __ne__ raise TypeError when comparing to None
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset ba84d1e9a742 by Raymond Hettinger in branch '2.7': Issue #21481: Teach argparse equality tests to return NotImplemented when comparing to unknown types. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/ba84d1e9a742 -- nosy: +python-dev ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21481 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue21481] Argpase Namespace object methods __eq__ and __ne__ raise TypeError when comparing to None
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset 510c8dc38749 by Raymond Hettinger in branch '3.4': Issue #21481: Teach argparse equality tests to return NotImplemented when comparing to unknown types. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/510c8dc38749 -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21481 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue21481] Argpase Namespace object methods __eq__ and __ne__ raise TypeError when comparing to None
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[issue13212] json library is decoding/encoding when it should not
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[issue13212] json library is decoding/encoding when it should not
Bob Ippolito added the comment:
As Chris Rebert mentioned, the JSON standards have adopted this (unsurprising)
behavior. Ruby hasn't, and I doubt Crockford has, but I think they're in the
minority at this point. JavaScript's own JSON implementation works the same way
json/simplejson does.
JSON.parse(JSON.stringify('yay'))
yay
At best, I think it's probably worth a mention in the documentation, but not
worth changing any code over.
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[issue13212] json library is decoding/encoding when it should not
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[issue8743] set() operators don't work with collections.Set instances
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[issue21575] list.sort() should show arguments in tutorial
Jan-Philip Gehrcke added the comment: I have updated the patch with a cross-reference to the sorted() built-in, which explains the arguments. W.r.t. to Éric's suggestion: the sorted() doc refers to the sorting howto in the wiki. Now everything is connected. -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file35365/sort_tut_02.diff ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21575 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue21575] list.sort() should show arguments in tutorial
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[issue21580] PhotoImage(data=...) apparently has to be UTF-8 or Base-64 encoded
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[issue21579] Python 3.4: tempfile.close attribute does not work
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[issue20664] _findLib_crle and _get_soname broken on latest SunOS 5.11
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[issue21560] gzip.write changes trailer ISIZE field before type checking - corrupted gz file after trying to write string
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[issue13355] random.triangular error when low = high=mode
Serhiy Storchaka added the comment: Note the catch on 2.7. triangular(10, 10.0) returns 10.0, but triangular(10, 10.0, 10.0) returns 10. If then you divide by the result... I proposed change return low to return low + 0.0. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue13355 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue21579] Python 3.4: tempfile.close attribute does not work
Serhiy Storchaka added the comment: In any case this trick didn't work on Windows. And it can't work on Linux too when use new O_TMPFILE flag (issue21515). -- nosy: +serhiy.storchaka ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21579 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue21579] Python 3.4: tempfile.close attribute does not work
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[issue21579] Python 3.4: tempfile.close attribute does not work
Марк Коренберг added the comment: Yes, but O_TMPFILE should be set ONLY when used with TemporaryFile, not with NamedTemporaryFile. My problem refer only NamedTemporaryFile. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21579 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue21578] Misleading error message when ImportError called with invalid keyword args
Berker Peksag added the comment: Here's a patch with a simple test case. -- keywords: +patch nosy: +berker.peksag stage: needs patch - patch review Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file35366/issue21578.diff ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21578 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue21054] Improve indexing of syntax symbols
Ezio Melotti added the comment: All the current dependences are currently fixed. Are you planning to add more in the future or can this issue be closed? -- assignee: - docs@python components: +Documentation nosy: +docs@python, ezio.melotti type: - enhancement ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21054 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue1820] Enhance Object/structseq.c to match namedtuple and tuple api
Sunny K added the comment: Hi Stefan, I've added a new patch which only adds _fields, combining parts from my earlier patch and Andrew's (his patch does not account for visible unnamed fields). -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file35367/structseq_fields.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue1820 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue21072] Python docs and downloads not available for Egypt
Ezio Melotti added the comment: IIUC there was a similar issue from China, and on the old site we fixed it by adding http://legacy.python.org/getit/. I don't know what was made to this page to make it work from China and if it still exists on the new website, but maybe the same trick could be used in this case as well? Leo, can you check if the link I posted above works for you and try http://legacy.python.org/download/ as well? -- nosy: +ezio.melotti ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21072 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue21077] Turtle Circle Speed 0
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[issue21310] ResourceWarning when open() fails with io.UnsupportedOperation: File or stream is not seekable
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[issue21429] Input.output error with multiprocessing
Ezio Melotti added the comment: Can you provide more information about the error (e.g. the relevant piece of code where the error generates, if you can reproduce it every time or if it's sporadic, a minimal piece of code that can reproduce the same issue, etc.)? I would also suggest to report this to the supybot issue tracker if the affected code is not specific to Limnoria. -- nosy: +ezio.melotti type: - behavior ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21429 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue21434] python -3 documentation is outdated
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[issue21445] Some asserts in test_filecmp have the wrong messages
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[issue21515] Use Linux O_TMPFILE flag in tempfile.TemporaryFile?
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[issue21310] ResourceWarning when open() fails with io.UnsupportedOperation: File or stream is not seekable
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[issue19980] Improve help('non-topic') response
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[issue21072] Python docs and downloads not available for Egypt
Leo Butcher added the comment: Still not working, they both timeout also the docs subdomain is the same On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Ezio Melotti rep...@bugs.python.orgwrote: Ezio Melotti added the comment: IIUC there was a similar issue from China, and on the old site we fixed it by adding http://legacy.python.org/getit/. I don't know what was made to this page to make it work from China and if it still exists on the new website, but maybe the same trick could be used in this case as well? Leo, can you check if the link I posted above works for you and try http://legacy.python.org/download/ as well? -- nosy: +ezio.melotti ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21072 ___ -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21072 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue20383] Add a keyword-only spec argument to types.ModuleType
Brett Cannon added the comment: First, about breaking up _SpecMethods: that was entirely on purpose. =) I honestly have found _SpecMethods a bit of a pain to work with because at every place where I have a spec object and I need to operate on it I end up having to wrap it and then call a method on it instead of simply calling a function (it also doesn't help that spec methods is structured as a collection of methods which can just operate as functions since they almost all have ``spec = self.spec`` at the beginning). I get you're hoping to make PEP 406 happen, but it actually needs to happen first. =) And as I said, the methods are essentially functions anyway so undoing any unraveling I may do won't be difficult to revert if PEP 406 actually comes about. IOW _SpecMethods feels like OOP just 'cause and not for any design reasons; it's been making my eye twitch when I look at that class. Second, the dance that an advanced user has to worry about is does create_module exist, and if so did it not return None and if any of that is not true then return what types.ModuleType would give you is not exactly one line of code ATM. There is no reason to not abstract that out to do the right thing in the face of a loader. Third, yes this would be to encourage people not to directly call types.ModuleType but call the utility function instead. Fourth, I purposefully didn't bifurcate the code of types.ModuleType based on the type of what the first argument was. At best you could change it to take an optional spec as a second argument and use that, but if you did that and the name doesn't match the spec then what? I'm not going to promote passing in a loader because spec_from_loader() cannot necessarily glean all of the same information a hand-crafted spec could if the loader doesn't have every possible introspection method defined (I'm calling explicit is better than implicit to back that up). I also don't think any type should depend on importlib having been previously loaded to properly function if it isn't strictly required, so the code would have to be written entirely in C which I just don't want to write. =) Since it's going beyond simply constructing a new module but also initializing it I think it's fine to keeping it in importlib.util which also makes it all more discoverable for people than having to realize tha t types.ModuleType is the place to go to create a module and get its attributes initialized. Fifth, fair enough on not needing the module argument. I will refactor the code for internal use of attribute initialization in testing and leave it at that. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue20383 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue10510] distutils upload/register should use CRLF in HTTP requests
Ian Cordasco added the comment: Per discussion on twitter (https://twitter.com/merwok_/status/468518605135835136) I'm bumping this to make sure it's merged. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue10510 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue21235] importlib's spec module create algorithm is not exposed
Brett Cannon added the comment: I think that's the wrong abstraction(it would be fine in a third-party library, though, that's trying to smooth over 3.3-3.4 transitions). Since importlib.util.find_spec() always returns a spec, then you want something more like:: def load(spec): loader = spec.loader if hasattr(loader, 'exec_module'): module = importlib.util.whatever_issue_20383_leads_to() loader.exec_module(module) return module else: loader.load_module(spec.name) return sys.modules[spec.name] Since this is Python 3.5 code we are talking about you don't have to worry about the find_loader/find_module case as find_spec wraps both of those and normalizes it all to just using specs. You could even tweak it to pass the module in explicitly and in the load_module branch make sure that the module is placed in sys.modules first so it essentially becomes a reload (but as both know that's not exactly the same nor pleasant in certain cases so probably best not exposed that way =). If this exists in importlib.util then you make import_module() be (essentially):: def import_module(name, package): fullname = resolve_name(name, package) spec = find_spec(fullname) return load(spec) -- dependencies: +Add a keyword-only spec argument to types.ModuleType ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21235 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue21235] importlib's spec module create algorithm is not exposed
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[issue21581] Consider dropping importlib.abc.Loader.create_module()
New submission from Brett Cannon: As Armin Ronacher pointed out, it's a bit odd having the importlib.abc.Loader ABC have a method whose default does nothing and having the method itself be entirely optional. Might as well just drop it from the ABC and instead just make sure that create_module() is documented appropriately (it's such an advanced use case it might also simplify things to not have it in the typical user's face). -- components: Library (Lib) messages: 219159 nosy: brett.cannon priority: normal severity: normal stage: test needed status: open title: Consider dropping importlib.abc.Loader.create_module() type: behavior versions: Python 3.5 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21581 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue21235] importlib's spec module create algorithm is not exposed
Brett Cannon added the comment: Opened issue #21581 to discuss Armin's point about importlib.abc.Loader.create_module() being there but not being much use since the method is entirely optional. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21235 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue21477] Idle: improve idle_test.htest
Saimadhav Heblikar added the comment: Summary for htest-26052014-34.diff and htest-26052014-27.diff 1. Adds htest for ReplaceDialog and SearchDialog 2. Removes the two canvases in TreeWidget as per code review comment. Now there is only a single ScrollableCanvas 3. Some text changes in spec dict messages The corresponding 27 patch is to be applied on top of htest-25052014-27.diff. Apart, 1. Wrt point 4 in msg219055, I think wrapper functions are required along with creating a new root. It ensures the parent dialog is not destroyed, even 'accidently' and across different OS. About the concern that clicking '[Next]' does not destroy the child: We could have the following line in wrapper function(which creates a new root)- parent.child = root and, in the next() in run(): try: root.child.destroy() except AttributeError: pass To make things more readable, we could perhaps change the 'root' in run() to 'parent' and ensure consistency. With this, clicking '[Next]' destroys the child, before moving onto the next htest. A drawback with this approach would be that, we would need to create a wrapper function for those tests which currently dont have one(See: configNameDialog, configHelpSource, GetKeysDialog etc.) 2. Htest's for GrepDialog, outputwindow, configDialog and Filelist are not progressing because of assert statements in macosxsupport.py. I do not know the reasoning behind the assert statement either. Neither do I know how to 'ignore' it. One way I found out is using the -O flag, but it is not pragmatic. Another way is to have a macosxsupport._tk_type = other in the respective wrapper function. But I do not know the effect of such a statement in a OSX environment. If someone with a OSX environment wants to volunteer, please try running Lib/idlelib/configDialog.py with and without the insertion macosxsupport._tk_type = other. With the insertion, the configDialog works on a Linux gnome environment and doesn't without it. Funnily enough, the configDialog works as-is in Win7 which I tried on a VM. One way would be to insert the above statment only if its a *nix environment. -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file35368/htest-26052014-34.diff ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21477 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue21477] Idle: improve idle_test.htest
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[issue21582] use the support.catpured_stdout/stderr context managers - test_asyncore
New submission from diana: Updated test_asyncore to use the support.catpured_stdout/stderr context managers rather than try/finally blocks. -- components: Tests files: use_support_captured_test_asyncore.patch keywords: patch messages: 219162 nosy: diana priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: use the support.catpured_stdout/stderr context managers - test_asyncore versions: Python 3.5 Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file35370/use_support_captured_test_asyncore.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21582 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue21582] use support.catpured context managers - test_asyncore
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[issue21054] Improve indexing of syntax symbols
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[issue21434] python -3 documentation is outdated
Terry J. Reedy added the comment: This is documentation for the 2.7 '-3' command line option, which I presume has not changed at least since 2.7.0, rather than for 2to3, which has changed in different 3.x releases. If I am correct, the list of things -3 warns about has not changed. It might be more appropriate to rewrite the intro sentence to something like Warn about Python 3.x incompatibilities which were not fixed by the original version of :ref:`2to3 2to3-reference`. Benjamin, what do you think? -- nosy: +benjamin.peterson ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21434 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue21583] use support.catpured_stderr context manager - test_logging
New submission from diana: - Updated test_asyncore to use the support.catpured_stderr context manager - Removed unused imports -- components: Tests files: use_support_captured_stderr_test_logging.patch keywords: patch messages: 219165 nosy: diana priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: use support.catpured_stderr context manager - test_logging versions: Python 3.5 Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file35371/use_support_captured_stderr_test_logging.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21583 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue19980] Improve help('non-topic') response
Jessica McKellar added the comment:
@BreamoreBoy, thanks for following up on this!
I propose the following. help('') returns help on strings in the same way
that help([]) and help({}) returns help on lists and dicts respectively,
Sounds good.
further help(''.method) returns help on the string method or an attribute
error, so this appears to me consistent.
This already happens (which I think you are saying, but it's a bit confusing in
reading your message which functionality you are proposing to add and which
functionality you are restating that already exists).
help('doh') returns enhanced output along the lines Terry suggested in
msg206157.
Sounds good.
help('module') gives the path to the module as well as the help output, if
any, as I think this could be useful in cases where you're looking for
problems and have a stdlib module masked by a file of your own.
I think you are stating the current functionality?
Note that I've tried looking at the test code and it didn't make much sense
to me, pointers welcome.
Do you have specific questions?
Terry suggests that help() tests for functionality using pydoc live in
test_pydoc.py, and that help() tests for functionality not using pydoc live in
test_site.py.
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[issue21583] use support.catpured_stderr context manager - test_logging
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