[Qgis-user] Clip raster with vectorlayer in Postgis

[Lene Fischer]

Hi
Just started to use PostGIS in QGIS. I only have vector data in postGIS
When I try to clip a raster layer with a vector mask (PostGIS) the layer is not 
shown in the drop down meny.
So I had to ‘Save As’ shape before clipping. Is this correct ?

Regards


Lene Fischer
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[Qgis-user] The need for intuitive complex feature edit support in QGIS 3+

[Rui Cavaco]

Hello list.

My name is Rui Cavaco, a supporter for OSGeo Portugal, and I see the need
for some future major changes in desktop GIS user interfaces in order to
facilitate complex features editing and querying.

GML and INSPIRE are about complex features but so are fiber optic networks.
Complex features could be also very productive in simpler cases like the
management of city road signs and indications and other municipality
themes.
In order to properly support complex features I think we need to go further
than the simple and old three-part GUI comprising TOC, map and attribute
table. For example, attribute and form views must have "drill down"
capabilities. As for the TOC, subdivding layers, as the GMLAS (
https://github.com/BRGM/gml_application_schema_toolbox) extension does, is
not enough. Something like tree-view windows showing object hierarchies and
complex objects' internal contents must exist. This is the exact same as
schematics / synoptic views provided by specialized "closed source" GIS
tools provided for telecom and other utilities management. Also I think the
TOC should be very interactive and adaptive, in order to make possible to
expose the intrincacies of sublayers without cluttering the whole layer
tree with details uneeded for the current user context.

Me and others discussing this subject in OSGeo-PT chat, we are convinced
that without a largely available and intuitive editing support for complex
features INSPIRE will soon be (some say already is) dead, despite all the
the EU legal obligations.

I suppose this is not a job for a single developer or a small team. I
imagine this might require some profound changes in QGIS. I don't think
that all these GUI changes mentioned could be "compacted" in just an
extension.

Funding for this effort could be raised from INSPIRE-interested EU
organizations and member state government agencies. Also telecom companies
and other utilities managers can be interested. Dedicated "closed source"
GIS solutions for utilities are so absurdly expensive that this can open an
opportunity window for Open Source based solutions.

I would like to join efforts with others sharing this vision in order to
help make it happen in future releases of QGIS.

Rui Cavaco
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Re: [Qgis-user] ctrl-c selection issue

[Jeroen Hovens]

Hmm, I can’t use Edit > Paste As, because qgis does not finish the Edit > Copy 
command.

 

The csv file is about 270 MB, 7,5 mln objects with 5 attributes, no x-y data. 

If you want to recreate the issue, the file can be found here:

https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/maatwerk/2017/38/buurt-wijk-en-gemeente-2017-voor-postcode-huisnummer

I run into this issue when selecting all objects with Attribute Gem217 = 310

355 also has this issue. 321 and 356 work without a problem.

 

I am using qgis here just as a means to chop the csv file into smaller 
selections which I can then use to edit, add attributes and data to and make 
maps of them.

 

Gr.

Jeroen

 

Van: Qgis-user [mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] Namens Ramon Andinach
Verzonden: dinsdag 9 januari 2018 23:35
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Onderwerp: Re: [Qgis-user] ctrl-c selection issue

 

Just so we’ve got just about everything covered, does this happen for “Edit-> 
Paste As”?

 

Also looking at the size of your original CSV, I’d go along with Jeroen, and 
try and import that csv into some other format first. 

If you can find a way of making the selection without going near the attribute 
table that will help too.

 

 

Regards,

Ramon.

On 10 Jan 2018, at 06:26, Jeroen Hovens  > wrote:

 

Thanks for the ideas.

 

The option to save the selection as new csv file as Ramon suggested, doesn’t 
work; qgis goes into ‘not responding’ and no csv file is added to the layer 
list. However, a csv file is made, lacking a decent number of objects (first 
test 15095 of 18582 objects and second test is 15179 of 18582 objects, so 
missing about 3,5k objects). This csv file can be opened manually in qgis.

And I checked: this options does work for selections where the ctrl-c option 
also worked. Then the new cvs layer is added to the layer list in no time.

 

Is there some sort of log file in qgis that might give clues to the ‘not 
responding?

 

@Kirk

I did close and reopen qgis multiple times, even shut down the pc entirely, but 
to no effect. Selections that did allow for copying earlier, still work: I can 
make that selection again and ctrl-c works fine. Seems to me this rules out 
memory-issues.

 

Gr.

Jeroen

 

 

Van: Qgis-user [mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] Namens Kirk Schmidt
Verzonden: dinsdag 9 januari 2018 22:20
Aan: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org  
Onderwerp: Re: [Qgis-user] ctrl-c selection issue

 

After a few selections, you may have to close and reopen qgis to purge the 
memory as well. Importing a csv is memory intensive so another approach is to 
try saving as a spatial database (SQLite) or even a shapefile.  Once written, 
you can load the spatial file and you should have lots of memory to keep 
selecting points. 





Kirk

On 1/9/2018 4:58 PM, Ramon Andinach wrote:

I’m not sure what the problem is, but if I were doing that repeatedly, I’d 
probably use Layer -> Save As, tick the Save Only Selected Features box and 
save it to CSV.  Then muck about with excel later. 

 

This way ought to be a bit lighter on the memory. 

 

 

Ramon.

On 10 Jan 2018, at 04:25, Jeroen Hovens <  
m...@groenebij.nl> wrote:

 

Hi,

 

Using qgis 2.14.18 I have been working today with a large csv file (7.5 mln 
objects). I just need selections of this database which I can then modify in 
excel. So I opened the attribute table and made a selection based on a specific 
value for an attribute, and copied that selection (about 30.000 objects) via 
the clipboard (ctrl-c) to a new Microsoft Excel file, then saved the excel file 
and repeated the process for another selection. This worked perfect for some 
time. However, some selections won’t copy: when I press the copy button the 
programs turn to ‘not responding’ and won’t snap out of it anymore.  Selection 
size when this happens is about the same (about 20k to 35k objects).

 

What could be the problem? Could the data be corrupted? How can I check what is 
wrong?

 

Thank you

Gr.

Jeroen 

 

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Re: [Qgis-user] ctrl-c selection issue

[Ramon Andinach]

Just so we’ve got just about everything covered, does this happen for “Edit-> 
Paste As”?

Also looking at the size of your original CSV, I’d go along with Jeroen, and 
try and import that csv into some other format first. 
If you can find a way of making the selection without going near the attribute 
table that will help too.


Regards,
Ramon.
> On 10 Jan 2018, at 06:26, Jeroen Hovens  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the ideas.
>  
> The option to save the selection as new csv file as Ramon suggested, doesn’t 
> work; qgis goes into ‘not responding’ and no csv file is added to the layer 
> list. However, a csv file is made, lacking a decent number of objects (first 
> test 15095 of 18582 objects and second test is 15179 of 18582 objects, so 
> missing about 3,5k objects). This csv file can be opened manually in qgis.
> And I checked: this options does work for selections where the ctrl-c option 
> also worked. Then the new cvs layer is added to the layer list in no time.
>  
> Is there some sort of log file in qgis that might give clues to the ‘not 
> responding?
>  
> @Kirk
> I did close and reopen qgis multiple times, even shut down the pc entirely, 
> but to no effect. Selections that did allow for copying earlier, still work: 
> I can make that selection again and ctrl-c works fine. Seems to me this rules 
> out memory-issues.
>  
> Gr.
> Jeroen
>  
>  
> Van: Qgis-user [mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] Namens Kirk Schmidt
> Verzonden: dinsdag 9 januari 2018 22:20
> Aan: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
> Onderwerp: Re: [Qgis-user] ctrl-c selection issue
>  
> After a few selections, you may have to close and reopen qgis to purge the 
> memory as well. Importing a csv is memory intensive so another approach is to 
> try saving as a spatial database (SQLite) or even a shapefile.  Once written, 
> you can load the spatial file and you should have lots of memory to keep 
> selecting points. 
> 
> 
> 
> Kirk
> 
> On 1/9/2018 4:58 PM, Ramon Andinach wrote:
>> I’m not sure what the problem is, but if I were doing that repeatedly, I’d 
>> probably use Layer -> Save As, tick the Save Only Selected Features box and 
>> save it to CSV.  Then muck about with excel later. 
>>  
>> This way ought to be a bit lighter on the memory. 
>>  
>>  
>> Ramon.
>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 04:25, Jeroen Hovens >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> Using qgis 2.14.18 I have been working today with a large csv file (7.5 mln 
>>> objects). I just need selections of this database which I can then modify 
>>> in excel. So I opened the attribute table and made a selection based on a 
>>> specific value for an attribute, and copied that selection (about 30.000 
>>> objects) via the clipboard (ctrl-c) to a new Microsoft Excel file, then 
>>> saved the excel file and repeated the process for another selection. This 
>>> worked perfect for some time. However, some selections won’t copy: when I 
>>> press the copy button the programs turn to ‘not responding’ and won’t snap 
>>> out of it anymore.  Selection size when this happens is about the same 
>>> (about 20k to 35k objects).
>>>  
>>> What could be the problem? Could the data be corrupted? How can I check 
>>> what is wrong?
>>>  
>>> Thank you
>>> Gr.
>>> Jeroen 
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Re: [Qgis-user] ctrl-c selection issue

[Jeroen Hovens]

Thanks for the ideas.

 

The option to save the selection as new csv file as Ramon suggested, doesn’t 
work; qgis goes into ‘not responding’ and no csv file is added to the layer 
list. However, a csv file is made, lacking a decent number of objects (first 
test 15095 of 18582 objects and second test is 15179 of 18582 objects, so 
missing about 3,5k objects). This csv file can be opened manually in qgis.

And I checked: this options does work for selections where the ctrl-c option 
also worked. Then the new cvs layer is added to the layer list in no time.

 

Is there some sort of log file in qgis that might give clues to the ‘not 
responding?

 

@Kirk

I did close and reopen qgis multiple times, even shut down the pc entirely, but 
to no effect. Selections that did allow for copying earlier, still work: I can 
make that selection again and ctrl-c works fine. Seems to me this rules out 
memory-issues.

 

Gr.

Jeroen

 

 

Van: Qgis-user [mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] Namens Kirk Schmidt
Verzonden: dinsdag 9 januari 2018 22:20
Aan: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
Onderwerp: Re: [Qgis-user] ctrl-c selection issue

 

After a few selections, you may have to close and reopen qgis to purge the 
memory as well. Importing a csv is memory intensive so another approach is to 
try saving as a spatial database (SQLite) or even a shapefile.  Once written, 
you can load the spatial file and you should have lots of memory to keep 
selecting points. 




Kirk

On 1/9/2018 4:58 PM, Ramon Andinach wrote:

I’m not sure what the problem is, but if I were doing that repeatedly, I’d 
probably use Layer -> Save As, tick the Save Only Selected Features box and 
save it to CSV.  Then muck about with excel later. 

 

This way ought to be a bit lighter on the memory. 

 

 

Ramon.

On 10 Jan 2018, at 04:25, Jeroen Hovens  > wrote:

 

Hi,

 

Using qgis 2.14.18 I have been working today with a large csv file (7.5 mln 
objects). I just need selections of this database which I can then modify in 
excel. So I opened the attribute table and made a selection based on a specific 
value for an attribute, and copied that selection (about 30.000 objects) via 
the clipboard (ctrl-c) to a new Microsoft Excel file, then saved the excel file 
and repeated the process for another selection. This worked perfect for some 
time. However, some selections won’t copy: when I press the copy button the 
programs turn to ‘not responding’ and won’t snap out of it anymore.  Selection 
size when this happens is about the same (about 20k to 35k objects).

 

What could be the problem? Could the data be corrupted? How can I check what is 
wrong?

 

Thank you

Gr.

Jeroen 

 

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Re: [Qgis-user] ArcSDE

[Luke]

Hi

SDE can configure datasets to use either the SDE geometry type or native
database geometry formats. This is up to the SDE admin to control.
The attribute data can sometimes be coded and the real values are stored as
domain values. These can be queried out within the database if necessary
using XPATH. Similarly if SDE is using versioning on datasets you need to
setup some database logic (views etc) to handle ensure you have the correct
geometry record.

So you have to do some work in most cases to prepare data to be used in
native SQL environment / external GIS product but it is possible.

Regards,
Luke B

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 5:25 AM, Jorge Gustavo Rocha 
wrote:

> Hi Jürgen,
>
> I suspect that you are right! I used this old modules for a one time
> job, to do the migration from SDE to Postgresql.
>
> I would say that it is not possible to handle SDE data directly from
> QGIS any more (using standard GDAL builds).
>
> But someone else might have an alternative solution.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorge
>
>
> On 09-01-2018 16:53, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
> > Hi Jorge,
> >
> > On Tue, 09. Jan 2018 at 15:45:01 +, Jorge Gustavo Rocha wrote:
> >> I was able to do it with ms4w_3.0.6. More details on
> >> https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/219660/get-gdal-up-
> and-running-with-arcsde-enabled
> >
> > But only as migration path, right?   I suppose those old GDAL modules
> don't
> > work with the current GDAL builds and wouldn't enable SDE in QGIS.
> >
> >
> > Jürgen
> >
> >
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Re: [Qgis-user] ctrl-c selection issue

[Kirk Schmidt]

After a few selections, you may have to close and reopen qgis to purge 
the memory as well. Importing a csv is memory intensive so another 
approach is to try saving as a spatial database (SQLite) or even a 
shapefile.  Once written, you can load the spatial file and you should 
have lots of memory to keep selecting points.


Kirk

On 1/9/2018 4:58 PM, Ramon Andinach wrote:
I’m not sure what the problem is, but if I were doing that repeatedly, 
I’d probably use Layer -> Save As, tick the Save Only Selected 
Features box and save it to CSV.  Then muck about with excel later.


This way ought to be a bit lighter on the memory.


Ramon.
On 10 Jan 2018, at 04:25, Jeroen Hovens > wrote:


Hi,
Using qgis 2.14.18 I have been working today with a large csv file 
(7.5 mln objects). I just need selections of this database which I 
can then modify in excel. So I opened the attribute table and made a 
selection based on a specific value for an attribute, and copied that 
selection (about 30.000 objects) via the clipboard (ctrl-c) to a new 
Microsoft Excel file, then saved the excel file and repeated the 
process for another selection. This worked perfect for some time. 
However, some selections won’t copy: when I press the copy button the 
programs turn to ‘not responding’ and won’t snap out of it anymore. 
 Selection size when this happens is about the same (about 20k to 35k 
objects).
What could be the problem? Could the data be corrupted? How can I 
check what is wrong?

Thank you
Gr.
Jeroen
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Re: [QGIS-it-user] Traduzione QGIS 3

[matteo]

non sono del tutto d'accordo con i termini intraducibili:

> clip,

ritaglio

> dissolve,

dissolvenza

> feature,

a seconda del contesto, geometria, è più che valido

> layer,

ne abbiamo già discusso. se è ambiguo non si traduce altrimenti vettore
o raster

> bounding box,

estensione minima

> query,

interrogazione


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Re: [QGIS-it-user] Traduzione QGIS 3

[Totò]

skampus wrote
> Non dimentichiamo Gabriela ed Enrico che ci fanno balzare a 5 preferenze.
> :-)
> 
> In ogni caso, posto che la ricchezza del software libero è anche le
> diversità di pensiero:
> a) merge --> fusione (merge)
> b) merge --> merge
> c) merge --> unione
> d) merge --> unione (merge)
> 
> 'Mergiare' però non lo scrivo neanche sotto tortura!
> 
> 1) union --> unione (union)
> 2) union --> union
> 3) union --> unione
> 
> A voi la scelta...

Beh se devo scegliere faccio una controproposta: 
questi termini sono intraducibili, al massimo si potrebbe mettere tra
parentesi la traduzione italiana

merge (fusione),
union (unione), 
clip,
dissolve,
buffer,
feature,
layer,
bounding box,
join,
query,
geoprocessing,

ed altri che per il momento ci sfuggono.

mi sono confrontato con Ivano e siamo entrambi della stessa idea.

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Re: [Qgis-user] ctrl-c selection issue

[Ramon Andinach]

I’m not sure what the problem is, but if I were doing that repeatedly, I’d 
probably use Layer -> Save As, tick the Save Only Selected Features box and 
save it to CSV.  Then muck about with excel later.

This way ought to be a bit lighter on the memory. 


Ramon.
> On 10 Jan 2018, at 04:25, Jeroen Hovens  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Using qgis 2.14.18 I have been working today with a large csv file (7.5 mln 
> objects). I just need selections of this database which I can then modify in 
> excel. So I opened the attribute table and made a selection based on a 
> specific value for an attribute, and copied that selection (about 30.000 
> objects) via the clipboard (ctrl-c) to a new Microsoft Excel file, then saved 
> the excel file and repeated the process for another selection. This worked 
> perfect for some time. However, some selections won’t copy: when I press the 
> copy button the programs turn to ‘not responding’ and won’t snap out of it 
> anymore.  Selection size when this happens is about the same (about 20k to 
> 35k objects).
>  
> What could be the problem? Could the data be corrupted? How can I check what 
> is wrong?
>  
> Thank you
> Gr.
> Jeroen 
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[Qgis-user] ctrl-c selection issue

[Jeroen Hovens]

Hi,

 

Using qgis 2.14.18 I have been working today with a large csv file (7.5 mln
objects). I just need selections of this database which I can then modify in
excel. So I opened the attribute table and made a selection based on a
specific value for an attribute, and copied that selection (about 30.000
objects) via the clipboard (ctrl-c) to a new Microsoft Excel file, then
saved the excel file and repeated the process for another selection. This
worked perfect for some time. However, some selections won't copy: when I
press the copy button the programs turn to 'not responding' and won't snap
out of it anymore.  Selection size when this happens is about the same
(about 20k to 35k objects).

 

What could be the problem? Could the data be corrupted? How can I check what
is wrong?

 

Thank you

Gr.

Jeroen 

 

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Re: [QGIS-it-user] problemi processing e altro

[matteo]

Ciao Luca,

hai provato a eliminare (spostare per non perdere niente) la cartella
.qgis2 e riavviare QGIS?

Matteo
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Re: [QGIS-it-user] Traduzione QGIS 3

[Totò]

Ciao a tutti,
voglio solo fare notare che a questo thread hanno partecipato 11 membri, con
due chiare linee di pensiero:
solo TRE (Campus, Ghetta e Cavallini ) sono dell'idea di tradurre tutto,
mentre gli altri NOVE sono dell'idea che alcuni termini NON vanno tradotti.

Questo è un dato di fatto.

saluti



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Re: [Qgis-user] ArcSDE

[Jorge Gustavo Rocha]

Hi Jürgen,

I suspect that you are right! I used this old modules for a one time
job, to do the migration from SDE to Postgresql.

I would say that it is not possible to handle SDE data directly from
QGIS any more (using standard GDAL builds).

But someone else might have an alternative solution.

Regards,

Jorge


On 09-01-2018 16:53, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
> Hi Jorge,
> 
> On Tue, 09. Jan 2018 at 15:45:01 +, Jorge Gustavo Rocha wrote:
>> I was able to do it with ms4w_3.0.6. More details on
>> https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/219660/get-gdal-up-and-running-with-arcsde-enabled
> 
> But only as migration path, right?   I suppose those old GDAL modules don't
> work with the current GDAL builds and wouldn't enable SDE in QGIS.
> 
> 
> Jürgen
> 
> 
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Re: [QGIS-it-user] Traduzione QGIS 3

[Daniele Bonaposta]

Prima di tutto: grazie a chi si impegna a tradurre QGIS. La versione in
italiano non può che essere positiva e aiuta tantissimo ad avvicinare nuovi
utenti.
È necessario tradurre tutto? Per me no e non credo che questo crei problemi.

Quanti inglesismi sentiamo e diciamo ogni giorno? Alterano la comprensione?
Se dico: "ti vuazzappo più tardi", "che me fai un check a e'gomme?" (cit.),
"random!", "ragazzi che pick che gioca Llompart", "ne parliamo al
coffee break", "taglia le patate alla julienne" (francesismo), ecc, ecc...
Se in tutto questo ti trovi un "merge", ma davvero è problema? un ostacolo
alla comprensione?

Chi utilizza un gis e per giunta open source? (inglesismo!) Tutta gente che
come minimo è diplomata, ha un minimo di idea su cosa sia una "table" o un
"field" e sicuro salva uno "shape file".

Benvenga la traduzione anche con qualche termine originale.

My two cents!!!
Daniele

Il 09 Gen 2018 11:54, "Ivano"  ha scritto:

> > Questo le pubbliche amministrazioni (e chi lo usa in tali strutture)
> > dovrebbero saperlo e cercare di supportare (finanziariamente o in altro
> > modo) per mantenere alto il livello di qualità e professionalità.
>
> perfetto, grazie mille Alessandro. Purtroppo, questo sta accadendo
> sempre meno, in Italia. Questo sì che è un tema utile per questa lista.
>
>
>
> Concordo pienamente, la risposta e' contenuta nella reply a Matteo.
>
> Saluti.
>
> I.
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[Qgis-user] Dealing with tables that have composite keys.

[Bob and Deb]

Hello qgis-users,

It has been a while since I've looked at QGIS, but I'm excited to hear
about the new stuff in QGIS3.  I'm hoping that it will help me with an old
problem that has kept me from fully embracing QGIS.

If I have a table called Sample_Data with attributes (official_name,
sample_id, top_depth, bottom_depth) and another table called
Soil_Indices_Lab with attributes (official_name, sample_id, parameter_name,
parameter_value, parameter_units), and I want to use QGIS Relations using
(official_name,sample_id), I run into this issue (
https://issues.qgis.org/issues/9531).  Can anyone tell me if QGIS3 will
address this problem or if there are other features in QGIS3 that will
allow me to work around this limitation?

Thank you,

Bob
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[QGIS-it-user] problemi processing e altro

[Luca Puglisi]

Buongiorno,

gia' da qualche giorno, dopo il conuseto scaricamento quotidiano degli 
aggiornamenti con osgeo4-w, alcuni plugin hanno smesso di funzionare: 
tra questi fTools e Processing (come dire, due sciocchezze...).
Andando a controllare, mi vengono indicati come corrotti riportando le 
seguenti cause:

- File dei metadati mancante
- No module named _psycopg

Qualcuno mi sa dare una dritta per sconfiggere la mia imbranattagine?

QGis 2.18.15
Win10

grazie mille,

un saluto
luca

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Re: [Qgis-user] ArcSDE

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Jorge,

On Tue, 09. Jan 2018 at 15:45:01 +, Jorge Gustavo Rocha wrote:
> I was able to do it with ms4w_3.0.6. More details on
> https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/219660/get-gdal-up-and-running-with-arcsde-enabled

But only as migration path, right?   I suppose those old GDAL modules don't
work with the current GDAL builds and wouldn't enable SDE in QGIS.


Jürgen

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Re: [Qgis-user] ArcSDE

[James Wood]

Thanks Jürgen,
I guess some clarification is in order as to whether this is actually SDE 
(older) or what is referred to now as Enterprise. There are also levels of 
Enterprise as well.

Feature classes created through the ArcGIS interface can been seen in the 
Spatial tab of an SSMS query. I have also connected to SDE (SQL) before from 
QGIS, however it has been some versions past. 

Sorry for jumping the gun before asking Roberto to clarify, and appreciate your 
input. 

James
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> On Jan 9, 2018, at 09:41, Jürgen E. Fischer  wrote:
> 
> Hi James,
> 
>> On Tue, 09. Jan 2018 at 09:27:21 -0600, James Wood wrote:
>> It would actually be a SQL or Oracle DBMS connection, whichever your SDE is
>> sitting on top of. 
> 
> Really?  I thought SDE would use proprietary data structures in the database
> instead of the database's native geometry representation.
> 
> GDAL has support for SDE that should also be available through QGIS.  There
> used to be SDE GDAL modules in OSGeo4W.  But building those requires ESRI
> libraries that are neither publicly nor - AFAIK - available to SDE customers
> anymore, hence recent builds of GDAL in OSGeo4W don't have SDE support 
> (there's
> some cruft for GDAL 1.5 left).
> 
> 
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Re: [Qgis-user] ArcSDE

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi James,

On Tue, 09. Jan 2018 at 09:27:21 -0600, James Wood wrote:
> It would actually be a SQL or Oracle DBMS connection, whichever your SDE is
> sitting on top of. 

Really?  I thought SDE would use proprietary data structures in the database
instead of the database's native geometry representation.

GDAL has support for SDE that should also be available through QGIS.  There
used to be SDE GDAL modules in OSGeo4W.  But building those requires ESRI
libraries that are neither publicly nor - AFAIK - available to SDE customers
anymore, hence recent builds of GDAL in OSGeo4W don't have SDE support (there's
some cruft for GDAL 1.5 left).


Jürgen

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Re: [Qgis-user] ArcSDE

[James Wood]

Hey Roberto,
It would actually be a SQL or Oracle DBMS connection, whichever your SDE is 
sitting on top of. 

Best Regards,
James
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> On Jan 9, 2018, at 09:06, Roberto Jesús Dip  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Is it possible to connect to ArcSDE using QGIS?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Roberto.
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[Qgis-user] ArcSDE

[Roberto Jesús Dip]

Hi all,

Is it possible to connect to ArcSDE using QGIS?
Thanks in advance!

Roberto.
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Re: [Qgis-user] Linestring - Select by Location

[Finbar Gillen]

Hi Richard,

Tried the ‘crosses’ option. It also selects polylines where the end point sits 
outside of the polygon feature.

Regards,
Finbar

From: Qgis-user [mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Richard 
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Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Linestring - Select by Location

Finbar,

Crosses should do what you want, if the end point is within the polygon, then 
the line must cross the Boundary, I have no tied it myself.
Regards,

Richard
On 09/01/2018 12:31, Finbar Gillen wrote:
Hi all,

I am doing a bit of analysis where I want to select all linestrings where their 
end point falls within a polygon feature. Below are the settings I have used in 
‘Select by Location’ Plugin.

[cid:image001.jpg@01D3894E.BA7B3F10]

Any linestring that falls outside will not be selected, which you would expect. 
I don’t want to use ‘intersects’ as an option in the plugin as it will create 
an over selection for what I want to do.


[cid:image002.jpg@01D3894E.BA7B3F10]

Is there a way where you can specify the linestring end point has to be within 
a polygon rather than the whole line? I have the x y coordinate for the end 
point within the attribute table.


Regards
Finbar


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Re: [Qgis-user] Linestring - Select by Location

[Richard McDonnell]

Finbar,

Crosses should do what you want, if the end point is within the polygon, 
then the line must cross the Boundary, I have no tied it myself.

Regards,

Richard

On 09/01/2018 12:31, Finbar Gillen wrote:


Hi all,

I am doing a bit of analysis where I want to select all linestrings 
where their end point falls within a polygon feature. Below are the 
settings I have used in ‘Select by Location’ Plugin.


Any linestring that falls outside will not be selected, which you 
would expect. I don’t want to use ‘intersects’ as an option in the 
plugin as it will create an over selection for what I want to do.


Isthere a way where you can specify the linestring end point has to be 
within a polygon rather than the whole line? I have the x y coordinate 
for the end point within the attribute table.


Regards

Finbar

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Vhi Healthcare| 2 Custom House Plaza, IFSC, Dublin 1

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[Qgis-user] Linestring - Select by Location

[Finbar Gillen]

Hi all,

I am doing a bit of analysis where I want to select all linestrings where their 
end point falls within a polygon feature. Below are the settings I have used in 
'Select by Location' Plugin.

[cid:image001.jpg@01D38945.D12AFB00]

Any linestring that falls outside will not be selected, which you would expect. 
I don't want to use 'intersects' as an option in the plugin as it will create 
an over selection for what I want to do.


[cid:image002.jpg@01D38945.D12AFB00]

Is there a way where you can specify the linestring end point has to be within 
a polygon rather than the whole line? I have the x y coordinate for the end 
point within the attribute table.


Regards
Finbar


Finbar Gillen | Data Analyst
Vhi Healthcare| 2 Custom House Plaza, IFSC, Dublin 1
E : finbar.gil...@vhi.ie



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Re: [QGIS-it-user] Problema con r.viewshed - RISOLTO

[Paolo Cavallini]

Il 09/01/2018 11:38, Carlo Nardi ha scritto:
>  Buongiorno a tutti
> 
> Grazie per il suggerimento, sembra che ora funzioni tutto.
> L'unica cosa che ho cambiato è stato il nome della cartella dove tenevo
> i file, ho modificato da Intervisibilità a intervisibilita e risolto tutto.
> Con questa modifica funziona anche il plugin viewshed analysis.

Bene, mi fa piacere. Per cortesia, ricambia l'aiuto che ti è stato dato
aprendo un ticket, così che nelle prossime versioni il problema potrà
essere risolto.
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Re: [QGIS-it-user] Problema con r.viewshed - RISOLTO

[Stefano Campus]

È un addon di grass.
https://grass.osgeo.org/grass72/manuals/addons/r.viewshed.cva.html

 Al momento non credo si possano usare addon di grass via processing

Il 09/Gen/2018 12:04, "Carlo Nardi"  ha scritto:

>  Buongiorno a tutti
>
> Grazie per il suggerimento, sembra che ora funzioni tutto.
> L'unica cosa che ho cambiato è stato il nome della cartella dove tenevo i
> file, ho modificato da Intervisibilità a intervisibilita e risolto tutto.
> Con questa modifica funziona anche il plugin viewshed analysis.
> Riguardo al parametro -1 (cioè la distanza) non ci sono problemi, con -1
> ti da all'infinito.
>
> Ora bisogna capire come passare da un punto di osservazione a molti
> contemporaneamente, r.viewshed accetta solamente un punto di osservazione.
> Grazie di nuovo
> Carlo
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Re: [QGIS-it-user] Traduzione QGIS 3

[Ivano]

> Questo le pubbliche amministrazioni (e chi lo usa in tali strutture) 
> dovrebbero saperlo e cercare di supportare (finanziariamente o in altro 
> modo) per mantenere alto il livello di qualità e professionalità.

perfetto, grazie mille Alessandro. Purtroppo, questo sta accadendo 
sempre meno, in Italia. Questo sì che è un tema utile per questa lista. 



Concordo pienamente, la risposta e' contenuta nella reply a Matteo.

Saluti.

I.



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Re: [QGIS-it-user] Traduzione QGIS 3

[Paolo Cavallini]

Salve,
metto insieme un po' di risposte:

Il 09/01/2018 06:07, Ivano ha scritto:

> l'operato di tutti coloro che vi partecipano, non si vuole discutere in
> modalita' litigiosa, ma crescere insieme per il bene di tutti

assolutamente - non ci preoccupiamo troppo dei toni, pensiamo alla
sostanza, ovvero al miglioramento per tutti.

> Quali termini tradurre? Praticamente tutto, tranne quelli che creano una
> sovrapposizione di significati che non permettono di disitinguere
> funzionalita' specifiche e diverse, in particolare i termini chiave come
> sopra citati ed elencati in un mio precedente intervento.

l'italiano ha una semantica molto più ricca dell'inglese, quindi si
trova sempre il modo di tradurre in maniera efficace; semmai il problema
è quello della concisione (stringhe troppo lunghe rendono l'interfaccia
poco fruibile. l'equilibrio fra la sintesi e la chiarezza è l'arte del
traduttore :)

> Rispondo a Gabriela:
> Non tutte le lingue sono uguali come ben sappiamo, pertanto tradurre un
> termine dall'inglese tecnico all'italiano e' cosa ben diversa rispetto al
> tedesco al francese allo svizzero tedesco allo spagnolo, dove possono
> esserci piu' termini sinonimi che rendono la comprensione agevole e
> distinta.

non credo, vedi sopra. certamente non è vero per spagnolo e francese.

> 5) Vogliamo dare modo  di sottolineare che ESRI e' il GIS dei professionisti
> e Qgis il GIS di tutti anche della signora prossima alla pensione
> dell'Ufficio protocollo?

sì: il GIS di tutti, **inclusi** i professionisti


Il 09/01/2018 07:45, Alessandro Sarretta ha scritto:

> Sicuramente la gratuità è una componente fondamentale che favorisce
> l'avvicinamento a QGIS. Non deve però rimanere l'unica, perché
> altrimenti gli elementi vincenti (il codice aperto e la comunità) vanno
> a farsi benedire...
> E il paragone con Draftsight non regge, se non per il fatto che
> Draftsight ha una versione del software gratis.
>
> QGIS non costa nulla a un utente che vuole scaricarlo e usarlo. Costa, e
> non poco, per essere mantenuto, sviluppato, documentato, tradotto.
>
> Questo le pubbliche amministrazioni (e chi lo usa in tali strutture)
> dovrebbero saperlo e cercare di supportare (finanziariamente o in altro
> modo) per mantenere alto il livello di qualità e professionalità.

perfetto, grazie mille Alessandro. Purtroppo, questo sta accadendo
sempre meno, in Italia. Questo sì che è un tema utile per questa lista.

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Re: [QGIS-it-user] Traduzione QGIS 3

[Ivano]

Matteo, 
scusami non voglio passare per  antipatico e non voglio farne un caso di
stato, ti invito a rileggere se hai tempo con calma quanto ho scritto, in
quanto i contenuti sono estremamente chiari.
Quanto hai riportato tu, non ha nessun legame o correlazione da quanto da me
citato, la traduzione e' solo parte margine, ma che riflette l'importanza
del discorso. Non c'entra la traduzione al 100%. 

Se siamo qua a parlarne e perche' Qgis e il ruolo di professionista del GIS
ci sta a cuore. Nessuno vuole accanirsi contro nessuno, il tema e'
esattamente il contrario, ovvero quello di motivare
a supportare le spese di sviluppo, di ricerca, di traduzione, per tutti
coloro che oggi lavorano anche gratis e coloro che hanno una
professionalita' GIS che va e deve essere riconosciuta e difesa, non solo
all'interno degli Enti ma anche esternamente, in quanto l'Ente potrebbe
chiamarli come consulenti, nel caso tale figura non fosse presente al suo
interno.

Cosa serve investire 5 anni della propria vita a laurearsi in Sistemi
Informativi Geografici o Ingegneria o Geologia, se poi la segretaria  o lo
stagista possono essere equiparati nell'uso del software?

Conosco ex compagni di universita' Gisologi veramente in gamba, che
saltuariamente riescono a trovare lavori di consulenza, in Regione o in PA
locali, qualcuno si e' licenziato dalla pubblica amministrazione perche' non
aveva voce in capitolo, oggi lavora in un istituto di ricerca ed e' fa lo
svilupatore, significa che se il ruolo fosse stato riconosciuto a dovere, ci
sarebbe tutto l'interesse di avere a che fare con manodopera qualificata.

Facciamo l'esempio dei corsi di Faunalia ove si distribuiscono
certificazioni riconosciute, questo e' un grande valore aggiunto, creare
formazione certificata con una qualifica di operatore Qgis. E' nella
formazione e nell'assistenza che si sensibilizza il futuro utente e il mondo
che vi gira intorno, a far capire l'importanza del lavoro qualificato GIS e
la possibilita' di usare  software gratuitamente distruibuito perche'
qualcuno ci ha lavorato dietro, non nel concetto che tutti possono usarlo
perche' e' bello e tutto italiano.

Finche' si ritrovano un qualcosa da scaricare gratuitamente e che si da'
l'idea che tutti indipendentemente dalla formazione possono usare, senza
professionalita' alcuna, senza formazione, facendo anche atti caritatevoli
di traduzione ad hoc, nel marasma dei numeri, non ci sara' mai l'input di
una amministrazione a sposare un progetto, perche'? Perche' colui che lo usa
passandosi per operatore GIS quale non e', non frega assolutamente nulla di
sensibilizzare una amministrazione a investire su formazione e supporto,
perche' non gli si da' importanza. 

Se si vuole sensibilizzare a compartecipare attivamente, bisogna evidenziare
l'importanza del ruolo del professionista GIS, perche' la gratuita', ovvero 
la cosa che tutti possono usare non fungera' mai da veicolo.

Con questo chiudo il discorso.

Ivano





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Re: [QGIS-it-user] Corsi QGIS e certificazione

[Roberto Marzocchi]

Mi sembra un'ottima iniziativa. Tuttavia anch'io non sono riuscito a 
trovare informazioni.


La pagina per richiedere la certificazione [1] rimanda a un link ancora 
incompleto


Se ci sono riferimenti penso che molti in lista siano interessati

Grazie in anticipo.

R


[1] - http://changelog.qgis.org/en/qgis/create-certifyingorganisation/


Il 08/01/2018 22:23, Stefano Campus ha scritto:

Complimenti!
avete alzato l'asticella dell'adesione dei corsi di formazione ai 
valori del progetto.


Nel Link che avete postato non ho trovato informazioni sull'iniziativa.

Ci raccontate quale sarà il processo di riconoscimento?  Ci saranno 
verifiche eccetera?


Grazie mille

Il 08/Gen/2018 22:12, "Paolo Cavallini" > ha scritto:


Grazie.

Il 8 gennaio 2018 21:48:14 CET, Alessandro Sarretta
> ha scritto:

Complimenti!

Ale


On 08/01/2018 19:05, matteo wrote:

Pochi giorni fa è iniziata una discussione molto interessante in questa
lista in merito ai corsi e a una possibile certificazione ufficiale
rilasciata da QGIS.

Faunalia è orgogliosissima di comunicare che è la prima azienda italiana
a poter rilasciare una certificazione ufficialmente riconosciuta dalla
fondazione internazionaleQGIS.ORG 

http://changelog.qgis.org/en/qgis/certifyingorganisation/qgis-faunalia/



Chi seguirà un corso potrà quindi richiedere, in aggiunta al certificato
Faunalia, anche una certificazione garantita e verificabile dalla
fondazione internazionaleQGIS.ORG . Il servizio ha un 
costo addizionale,
che contribuisce a finanziare lo sviluppo di QGIS.

Saluti a tutti

Matteo
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Re: [QGIS-it-user] Traduzione QGIS 3

[matteo]

Ivano,

sono d'accordo con alcuni dei tuoi commenti e meno con altri.
Il fatto che altre lingue risultino tradotte al 100% non significa per
niente che tutti i termini siano stati tradotti: se il traduttore copia
la stringa sorgente in inglese nella sua lingua, il sistema "pensa" sia
stata tradotta, ma in realtà non lo è.

A volte nel team di traduzione italiana, quando abbiamo lasciato le
stringhe in inglese, invece che copiare e incollare la stessa stringa,
non abbiaimo fatto niente (facendo leggere a QGIS la stringa sorgente)
quindi la traduzione era inferiore al 100%.


> 1) Qgis si sta diffondendo nella PA italiana perche' e' gratuito, cio' non
> esclude che sia un ottimo programma, come del resto lo e' Draftsight. La
> risultante Qgis vs ESRI, Drafsight vs Autodesk.
> 2) Qgis per molti non addetti ai lavori viene impiegato alla stregua di un
> visualizzatore di file shape, con il quale non interagiscono, ma serve per
> scambiare/visualizzare/stampare in parallelo a DWG TrueView, da qui la
> presunzione di definirsi utenti GIS agli occhi degli Amministratori, con
> tutte le conseguenze del caso.
> 3) Il GIS a livello di Pubblica Amministrazione ha bisogno di crescere in
> termini di cultura e di operato e di essere identificato con dei ruoli
> riconosciuti e precisi perche' e' una professione a tutti gli effetti come
> lo e' l'Architetto o l'Ingegnere o il Medico. Il ruolo del GIM (Geographic
> Information Manager) di cui si e' parlato tanto e sara' una delle nuove
> figure che insieme al Responsabile della Transizione al Digitale,
> ricopriranno un ruolo chiave per la PA,  permettera' di monitorare e
> generare informazione geografica corretta e condivisibile sul mercato degli
> OpenData, ove ad oggi circola tanta informazione immondizia e quindi  non
> puo' essere terra di tutti per rispondere a : "se il GIS esce dalla stretta
> cerchia degli specialisti è merito di un software chiaro tradotto e
> liberamente disponibile", similmente ad un qualsiasi editor di testo? Non e'
> il software che fa la professione, ma e' il professionista che utilizza il
> software.
> 4) Inoltre:  "ma ben venga unione x merge se serve a semplificare la vita a
> tanti utenti e renderli autonomi" Ma di quali utenti stiamo parlando? Quali
> mansioni? Quale patrimonio conoscitivo stiamo diffondendo o creando? Coloro
> che operano nel campo della Pianificazione Urbanistica o Ambientale o a
> livello strategico in campo di protezione civile o di sviluppo statistico,
> che abbiano frequentato un qualsiasi corso GIS dignitoso, non hanno alcun
> bisogno di atti caritatevoli in tal senso.
> 5) Vogliamo dare modo  di sottolineare che ESRI e' il GIS dei professionisti
> e Qgis il GIS di tutti anche della signora prossima alla pensione
> dell'Ufficio protocollo?

sinceramente non capisco questo ultimo punto. Significa che se un
software cerca di avvicinarsi di più agli utenti (avvicinarsi, non
accalappiarne altri cosi giusto per fare grandi numeri) è "inferiore" di
livello a un software rilasciato solo in inglese perché risulta essere
più professionale?

Quanti utenti di PA, aziende private, studenti, professionisti ed
esperti del settore (che quindi non sono la signora prossima alla
pensione) hanno tratto un enorme beneficio grazie alla traduzione
semplicemente perchè l'inglese risultava ostico?

Che poi ci siano termini oggettivamente intraducibili (cache,
provider..) non lo metto in dubbio, ma francamente non capisco perchè la
traduzione non debba essere considerata una cosa importante.

Capisco (in parte) a chi dice: destiniamo risorse allo sviluppo pittosto
che alla traduzione. Ma se una persona, non sviluppatore, vuole
restituire qualcosa alla comunità traducendo, perchè no?


Non capisco se ci sia un "accanimento" verso questa attività che a mio
personalissimo avviso ha fatto solo del bene


Matteo
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