Re: [Ql-Users] Happy St Davids Day
On 1 Mar 2011, at 17:11, David Tubbs wrote: At 13:25 01/03/2011 +, you wrote: Happy St Davids day to everyone. I hope we are all wearing daffodils or leeks and eating 'cawl' soup or Welsh Rarebit to celebrate. So today's (not Toasay) the Dai, I occasionally wondered. I suppose it's not the right season for lava bread ? Perhaps for the lava boy or for the well bread. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] The First Survey - Results!
On 1 Mar 2011, at 21:25, Dave Park wrote: Okay, I have gone through the XML with a fine tooth comb to remove all the javascript, any privacy-invading links and various hidden forms. The main survey page is here: http://www.nonstickglue.com/QL_Hardware_Library/Survey.html From here there's a link on the right and at the bottom that will show the survey as it was intended. The survey will open in a new window. Hopefully this will present the data in a much more readable / interpretable form. Very nice. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] SMSQ/E on Aurora
Does anyone know if SMSQ/E on Aurora needs a minimum of Gold Card? Or could SMSQ/E be used on Aurora with a Trump Card and still be able to have high resolution (e.g. 640x480) screen? (Quanta helpline question) Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E on Aurora
Op Wed, 02 Mar 2011 12:05:28 +0100 schreef Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk: Does anyone know if SMSQ/E on Aurora needs a minimum of Gold Card? Or could SMSQ/E be used on Aurora with a Trump Card and still be able to have high resolution (e.g. 640x480) screen? The Aurora manual states that you need GC or SGC, no mention of a TC. (Quick Start - System requirements) To exploit the extended resolutions from SMSQ/E_AURORA you need the SGC. (Quick Start - section 15 and Preface) Bob -- The BSJR QL software site at: http://members.chello.nl/b.spelten/ql/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] The First Survey - Results!
The main survey page is here: http://www.nonstickglue.com/QL_Hardware_Library/Survey.html Nicely laid out, Dave. Some comments, for discussion, based on just a quick look through the results earlier this morning: Question 1: Only 3% with a 128K or 640K QL. Seems to fly in the face of Geoff's survey for Quanta a few years ago when a surprising number of members were using a basic QL. But, add in the first 4 results (above QXL) and it suddenly becomes 26% of people using a QL with any type of expansion up to Super Gold Card. I did rather expect that the QL emulators section would be the single largest category, even if 45% (commercial) plus 5% (free) seemed larger than I expected. And 9% using Q40/Q60 as a main QL system surprised me, I'd expected about half that. Question 12: glad I'm doing something right! Question 13: 95% able to program in SuperBASIC. Rather surprises me, but assuming replies came mostly from list-members, I've always thought that most people on this list might consider themselves more experienced than, say, a lot of Quanta members or QL Today readers? Does that sound elitist? Wasn't meant to. Question 14: 56% able to program in Assembly Language - Norman Dunbar's QL Today articles have obviously worked well here! Question 16: given that the survey was mainly publicised through ql-users list, I'm surprised only a third of people said they subscribed to it??? The low percentage of people subscribing to Quanta and QL Today probably speaks for itself (although later answers substantially increase these figures), but could be partially due to people who are not as active on the QL scene as they used to be, but remain in contact with the QL scene via this list, which is probably why this particular survey gives Quanta and QL Today a poor result. I suspect we've seen plenty of comments on this list including someting like I no longer subscribe to Quanta/QL Today, but The question is, do people remain on this list just to keep in touch without the cost of subscribing to anything (no real reason to subscribe if they are not regularly using a QL), or is there something that both organisations could do to entice these back? Comments from people who are on this list and not subscribing to either organisation welcome. Question 17: 15% members of Quanta in Q.16, 29% here. Is the doubling a statistical blip caused by a fairly small number of responses, was one of the questions worded so as not to extract the same reply or what? ID 4347254: The response about the overseas delivery, ...belief that sending the newsletter to foreign countries should come AFTER all the domestic members received their and thus show an inability to factor in 10+ extra days of transit -- THAT is symptomatic of how they view the World and/or the membership ... i.e., it's a local club that they allow others to contribute to I'm not quite sure what to make of this - I presume that John Gilpin has been sending ALL issues out at the same time (not checked with him), and if so, is the suggestion that Quanta should hold posting UK mags back for 10 days? I've been a member of Quanta since 1984, my postal copy regularly seems to arrive one or two days after other UK members get theirs, even though it's the same British postal system (probably just the usual West of Chester syndrome). Question 18: As with the Quanta figures, this shows 50% more QL Today subscribers than the original Question 16?!?! Question 20: 71% sharing files via email - to be expected in this day and age, figure may be a little higher here as this is a survey where all users by definition use email to know about this survey, but the 21% still using floppies surprises me. Question 21: 78% using their QL for programming and personal use. In line with my expectations. Question 22: I'm surprised the response wasn't even higher in citing internet access as critical. Of course, QPC2, QemuLator and uQLx have the base ability here, but we only have Jonathan Hudson's programs as applications. Dave - get working on those apps you mentioned - they'll do well! Question 24: 46% using a Windows system, no surprises there. The figure for OSX is a little higher than I'd expected, but it looks like Daniele correctly predicted the need for a OSX QemuLator here. In summary, this survey was a fairly smal and limited one, as others have remarked. Hopefully, the experience from this one should mean even better results from the next one. Well done to Dave for putting it together quickly and getting the results out pronto (even if the list did sabotage his first results effort). Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E on Aurora
Dilwyn Jones wrote: Ah - might not be possible to use SMSQ/E on Trump Card at all, perhaps? This was at crux of question. No, some gold is required for SMSQ/E ;) Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E on Aurora
Dilwyn Jones wrote: Ah - might not be possible to use SMSQ/E on Trump Card at all, perhaps? This was at crux of question. No, some gold is required for SMSQ/E ;) Marcel Thanks. :-) And a Gold credit card to buy it, perhaps? ;-) Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E on Aurora
Dilwyn Jones wrote: Ah - might not be possible to use SMSQ/E on Trump Card at all, perhaps? This was at crux of question. No, some gold is required for SMSQ/E ;) Marcel Thanks. :-) And a Gold credit card to buy it, perhaps? ;-) Dilwyn Jones Aurora+TC = no 68xxx-CPU... can do exactly NOTHING If you have some hardware to add a QXL-Card then it may be OK :)) Gerhard ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E on Aurora
Dilwyn Jones wrote: Ah - might not be possible to use SMSQ/E on Trump Card at all, perhaps? This was at crux of question. No, some gold is required for SMSQ/E ;) Marcel Thanks. :-) And a Gold credit card to buy it, perhaps? ;-) Dilwyn Jones Aurora+TC = no 68xxx-CPU... can do exactly NOTHING If you have some hardware to add a QXL-Card then it may be OK :)) Gerhard I forgot to ask in the original question if the Atari ST_QL emulator ever supported high colour modes? Or was it just larger screen resolutions with no increase in number of colours? Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ/E on Aurora
Dilwyn Jones wrote: I forgot to ask in the original question if the Atari ST_QL emulator ever supported high colour modes? Or was it just larger screen resolutions with no increase in number of colours? Just higher resolution. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Window Manager 2
I'm in the process of writing an article for Quanta mag about the new graphical capabilities of QL compatible systems. One of the things I've realised I've probably never seen despite using it so much myself is a short (one-line) description of what the Window Manager 2 is all about. Anybody (including Marcel, he wrote most of it) able to supply a suitable one line or one sentence (or failing that, one paragraph) description? It should offer a brief description of what the Window Manager is, to someone who may have neverused its facilities before or doesn't really know anything beyond the name. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Quanta News
If anyone has any news for inclusion in the next issue of Quanta magazine, please send it to me by 5th March. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Window Manager 2
On 2 Mar 2011, at 14:23, Dilwyn Jones wrote: One of the things I've realised I've probably never seen despite using it so much myself is a short (one-line) description of what the Window Manager 2 is all about. As I understand it it is this, briefly: New WM vectors are provided dealing with GD2 colours. In particular there is WM.TRAP#3 which allows several trap#3 calls to set the new colours. These include setting colours for paper, strip, ink, block and border. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Window Manager 2
On 02/03/2011 02:23, Dilwyn Jones wrote: I'm in the process of writing an article for Quanta mag about the new graphical capabilities of QL compatible systems. One of the things I've realised I've probably never seen despite using it so much myself is a short (one-line) description of what the Window Manager 2 is all about. Anybody (including Marcel, he wrote most of it) able to supply a suitable one line or one sentence (or failing that, one paragraph) description? It should offer a brief description of what the Window Manager is, to someone who may have neverused its facilities before or doesn't really know anything beyond the name. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I've not even heard of it! Bryan H ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Window Manager 2
On 02/03/2011 02:23, Dilwyn Jones wrote: I'm in the process of writing an article for Quanta mag about the new graphical capabilities of QL compatible systems. One of the things I've realised I've probably never seen despite using it so much myself is a short (one-line) description of what the Window Manager 2 is all about. Anybody (including Marcel, he wrote most of it) able to supply a suitable one line or one sentence (or failing that, one paragraph) description? It should offer a brief description of what the Window Manager is, to someone who may have neverused its facilities before or doesn't really know anything beyond the name. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I've not even heard of it! Bryan H I'm sure there are plenty in your situation. This is why I was asking, so that I can get the best information to write an article for Quanta about the new(ish) Window Manager for people like yourself who either haven't heard of it or know little about it. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] The First Survey - Results!
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.ukwrote: The main survey page is here: http://www.nonstickglue.com/QL_Hardware_Library/Survey.html Nicely laid out, Dave. You can thank the survey website for the layout. I just had to convert the XML and javascript behind it to make it behave on a different website. Some comments, for discussion, based on just a quick look through the results earlier this morning: Question 1: Only 3% with a 128K or 640K QL. Seems to fly in the face of Geoff's survey for Quanta a few years ago when a surprising number of members were using a basic QL. But, add in the first 4 results (above QXL) and it suddenly becomes 26% of people using a QL with any type of expansion up to Super Gold Card. I did rather expect that the QL emulators section would be the single largest category, even if 45% (commercial) plus 5% (free) seemed larger than I expected. And 9% using Q40/Q60 as a main QL system surprised me, I'd expected about half that. Given that two people answered other and then put a commercial emulator, the figure is slightly more in the emulator's favor than the bars indicate. The response for unexpanded QLs was only two people, so the statistical error can be quite large - just one more or less vote for that is +/-50%. It's only when minority answers with so few votes get grouped together that accuracy increases. Thus, unexpanded + expansions + GC + SGC = 26% (19/74) gives a margin of error for systems using the original QL in some form of +/-4% or so. Question 12: glad I'm doing something right! It does seem to be the only question upon which there was a unanimous answer. Congratulations! Question 13: 95% able to program in SuperBASIC. Rather surprises me, but assuming replies came mostly from list-members, I've always thought that most people on this list might consider themselves more experienced than, say, a lot of Quanta members or QL Today readers? Does that sound elitist? Wasn't meant to. Question 14: 56% able to program in Assembly Language - Norman Dunbar's QL Today articles have obviously worked well here! Question 16: given that the survey was mainly publicised through ql-users list, I'm surprised only a third of people said they subscribed to it??? Not so. This question allowed people to answer multiple checkboxes. 59/74ths (80%) answered that they use ql-users, but that was only 34% of the total readership as many also subscribed to other answers too. (59/172 total responses) The low percentage of people subscribing to Quanta and QL Today probably speaks for itself (although later answers substantially increase these figures), but could be partially due to people who are not as active on the QL scene as they used to be, but remain in contact with the QL scene via this list, which is probably why this particular survey gives Quanta and QL Today a poor result. I suspect we've seen plenty of comments on this list including someting like I no longer subscribe to Quanta/QL Today, but The question is, do people remain on this list just to keep in touch without the cost of subscribing to anything (no real reason to subscribe if they are not regularly using a QL), or is there something that both organisations could do to entice these back? Comments from people who are on this list and not subscribing to either organisation welcome. The obvious suggestion of this answer is that people who are more inclined to get information from the internet will be less inclined to subscribe to a magazine or club. Question 17: 15% members of Quanta in Q.16, 29% here. Is the doubling a statistical blip caused by a fairly small number of responses, was one of the questions worded so as not to extract the same reply or what? ID 4347254: The response about the overseas delivery, ...belief that sending the newsletter to foreign countries should come AFTER all the domestic members received their and thus show an inability to factor in 10+ extra days of transit -- THAT is symptomatic of how they view the World and/or the membership ... i.e., it's a local club that they allow others to contribute to I'm not quite sure what to make of this - I presume that John Gilpin has been sending ALL issues out at the same time (not checked with him), and if so, is the suggestion that Quanta should hold posting UK mags back for 10 days? I've been a member of Quanta since 1984, my postal copy regularly seems to arrive one or two days after other UK members get theirs, even though it's the same British postal system (probably just the usual West of Chester syndrome). Look at the votes and not the percentages: 26 people said Quanta in Q.16 and 26 said I am a current member in 17... It looks very consistent. It seems some people did not understand the structure of Q.17 as I did not explain clearly - they were supposed to check a box for each decade they were a member, and if they are a current member
Re: [Ql-Users] Window Manager 2
Op Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:20:26 +0100 schreef gdgqler gdgq...@gmail.com: On 2 Mar 2011, at 14:23, Dilwyn Jones wrote: One of the things I've realised I've probably never seen despite using it so much myself is a short (one-line) description of what the Window Manager 2 is all about. As I understand it it is this, briefly: New WM vectors are provided dealing with GD2 colours. In particular there is WM.TRAP#3 which allows several trap#3 calls to set the new colours. These include setting colours for paper, strip, ink, block and border. Spoken like a true machine code programmer ;) How about this: WMAN2 provides support for up to 32K colours for PE window elements, direct or through the use of 1 to 4 System Palettes or a User Palette set up in RAM. It also supports sprites in 8, 16 or 24 bit modes with Alpha masks or no mask, with RLE compression, of sizes only limited by its window and chained as extended sprites for each mode of the clickable items. Bob --- The BSJR QL software site at: http://members.chello.nl/b.spelten/ql/ -- The BSJR QL software site at: http://members.chello.nl/b.spelten/ql/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Window Manager 2
On 2 Mar 2011, at 17:05, Bob Spelten wrote: On 2 Mar 2011, at 14:23, Dilwyn Jones wrote: One of the things I've realised I've probably never seen despite using it so much myself is a short (one-line) description of what the Window Manager 2 is all about. As I understand it it is this, briefly: New WM vectors are provided dealing with GD2 colours. In particular there is WM.TRAP#3 which allows several trap#3 calls to set the new colours. These include setting colours for paper, strip, ink, block and border. Spoken like a true machine code programmer ;) Thanks for the true. How about this: WMAN2 provides support for up to 32K colours for PE window elements, direct or through the use of 1 to 4 System Palettes or a User Palette set up in RAM. It also supports sprites in 8, 16 or 24 bit modes with Alpha masks or no mask, with RLE compression, of sizes only limited by its window and chained as extended sprites for each mode of the clickable items. You can use GD2 colours via S*BASIC with WM_BLOCK instead of BLOCK etc. but presumably these do not rely in any way on the vectors of WMAN2. In fact WMAN2 is provided just for assembler programmers isn't it? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Window Manager 2
One of the things I've realised I've probably never seen despite using it so much myself is a short (one-line) description of what the Window Manager 2 is all about. As I understand it it is this, briefly: New WM vectors are provided dealing with GD2 colours. In particular there is WM.TRAP#3 which allows several trap#3 calls to set the new colours. These include setting colours for paper, strip, ink, block and border. Spoken like a true machine code programmer ;) How about this: WMAN2 provides support for up to 32K colours for PE window elements, direct or through the use of 1 to 4 System Palettes or a User Palette set up in RAM. It also supports sprites in 8, 16 or 24 bit modes with Alpha masks or no mask, with RLE compression, of sizes only limited by its window and chained as extended sprites for each mode of the clickable items. Bob Seems comprehensive, although I'd probably have to include a glossary to explain the various terms - if people haven't heard of Wman 2 they are unlikely to know what Alpha masks, RLE, chained extended sprites and so on mean. But this is a good start I guess. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Window Manager 2
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.ukwrote: Seems comprehensive, although I'd probably have to include a glossary to explain the various terms - if people haven't heard of Wman 2 they are unlikely to know what Alpha masks, RLE, chained extended sprites and so on mean. But this is a good start I guess. I have not heard of WMAN2. I know what alpha masks and run length encoding are, but not the others. I have no clue how they're implemented or used on a QL. Definitely a technical glossary is needed, where each entry starts with OVERVIEW for us dummies, and DETAILS for closer study. Or, the very neat CONCEPTS manual pioneered by some guy called Clive. Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] scale and drawing on the QL
Just for info, Jan Jones' book QL Basic has appeared on eBay for anyone
interested
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/QL-SuperBASIC-Definitive-Handbook-Sinclair-QL-Book-/290539469876?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RLhash=item43a5807c34#ht_500wt_1156
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Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] scale and drawing on the QL
On 16 Jan 2011, at 15:03, Rich Mellor wrote:
190 line_diff=(101*Yratio/hi)*wid/('135.5041505'*Xratio)
Blimey! How do you get 135.5041505? Surely you could let us have twenty more
significant figures?
Jan Jones, on page 115, says that
OPEN#3,SCR_137x100 will give a square window. I found that a rounded 135
seemed more accurate.
George
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I have placed a bid on this book.
I have, a few weeks ago, asked Jan Jones for permission to reprint/reformat
it (whatever she agrees to) so a cleaner copy is available to the community
than the scan that is generally available...
If anyone wishes to outbid me, I will make dagger eyes at them, but that's
about all ;)
Dave
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Lee Privett lee.priv...@gmail.com wrote:
Just for info, Jan Jones' book QL Basic has appeared on eBay for anyone
interested
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/QL-SuperBASIC-Definitive-Handbook-Sinclair-QL-Book-/290539469876?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RLhash=item43a5807c34#ht_500wt_1156
Lee
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Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] scale and drawing on the QL
On 16 Jan 2011, at 15:03, Rich Mellor wrote:
190 line_diff=(101*Yratio/hi)*wid/('135.5041505'*Xratio)
Blimey! How do you get 135.5041505? Surely you could let us have twenty
more significant figures?
Jan Jones, on page 115, says that
OPEN#3,SCR_137x100 will give a square window. I found that a rounded 135
seemed more accurate.
George
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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta News
In message 54C712DAAB5F41208F437F6B07441D2C@d3hkh9x94, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk writes Hi Dilwyn, Just to keep you busy with some 'copy' ... :-) The London QL Quanta Group started 2011 with its first Meeting of the Year on our new schedule - Sunday 13th February 2011. The Welsh Congregational Chapel has been undergoing extensive refurbishment over the latter 2-3 Years. The Meeting was our first, too, for a long time with the building works almost complete. The main space is now fully opened up together with new furniture and a projection screen. The kitchen is ultra modern, along with new toilets. It makes for an even better Venue for our regular meetings, and for potentially holding future workshops. The location is a basement, which means access is via a staircase. We also welcomed a new member to the Group - Martyn Hill - which is good news for the future of the Group. Martyn was immediately 'hands on' with his skills in assisting us to restore to life a QL + Gold Card, housed in a PC case. A project that we are undertaking for a QL User who is now over 80 Years old. If anyone has any news for inclusion in the next issue of Quanta magazine, please send it to me by 5th March. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] scale and drawing on the QL
It may be worth asking Quanta - as they had a reprint of the book, there
must have been an original file somewhere...
Presuming (of course) that Jan Jones gives her permission for the book
to be made freely available.
Rich
On 02/03/2011 20:43, Dave Park wrote:
I have placed a bid on this book.
I have, a few weeks ago, asked Jan Jones for permission to reprint/reformat
it (whatever she agrees to) so a cleaner copy is available to the community
than the scan that is generally available...
If anyone wishes to outbid me, I will make dagger eyes at them, but that's
about all ;)
Dave
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Lee Privettlee.priv...@gmail.com wrote:
Just for info, Jan Jones' book QL Basic has appeared on eBay for anyone
interested
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/QL-SuperBASIC-Definitive-Handbook-Sinclair-QL-Book-/290539469876?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RLhash=item43a5807c34#ht_500wt_1156
Lee
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Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] scale and drawing on the QL
On 16 Jan 2011, at 15:03, Rich Mellor wrote:
190 line_diff=(101*Yratio/hi)*wid/('135.5041505'*Xratio)
Blimey! How do you get 135.5041505? Surely you could let us have twenty
more significant figures?
Jan Jones, on page 115, says that
OPEN#3,SCR_137x100 will give a square window. I found that a rounded 135
seemed more accurate.
George
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On 02/03/11 20:43, Dave Park wrote: I have, a few weeks ago, asked Jan Jones for permission to reprint/reformat it (whatever she agrees to) so a cleaner copy is available to the community than the scan that is generally available... That would be great. I have a really bad scan of this book in PDF format. It's dire. And because the text seems to be dot matrix printed, OCR is hopeless. :-( I had planned - sometime - getting the text out somehow and DocBooking it and from that, I can have PDF, HTML, DOC, DOCX, ODT, etc - all from the same source file. (EPub as well and Man pages if I like!) Obviously the format would change from the current book, but the print would be better and so would the listings etc. However, if anyone extracts the text with a better OCR that I've got (Abbey Fine Reader Pro Version 8 - if I remember correctly!) and is willing to share, I'll do the conversion to DocBook XML. Cheers, Norman. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] scale and drawing on the QL
I have placed a bid on this book. I have, a few weeks ago, asked Jan Jones for permission to reprint/reformat it (whatever she agrees to) so a cleaner copy is available to the community than the scan that is generally available... Someone (Malcolm Lear?) was trying to redo this book from a scan somewhere IIRC. This might give added impetus if she agrees. I can't remember if Javier Guerra got permission for th eversion on a SPanish website or not (will try to search the old emails). I don't think Quanta has a file copy of this book, but John Gilpin might know as he's been on committee longer than me... Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] scale and drawing on the QL
From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] on behalf of Dilwyn Jones [dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: 02 March 2011 22:37 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] scale and drawing on the QL I have placed a bid on this book. I have, a few weeks ago, asked Jan Jones for permission to reprint/reformat it (whatever she agrees to) so a cleaner copy is available to the community than the scan that is generally available... Someone (Malcolm Lear?) was trying to redo this book from a scan somewhere IIRC. This might give added impetus if she agrees. I can't remember if Javier Guerra got permission for th eversion on a SPanish website or not (will try to search the old emails). I don't think Quanta has a file copy of this book, but John Gilpin might know as he's been on committee longer than me... Dilwyn Jones I'm about halfway through. Cheers Malcolm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Window Manager 2
Bob Spelten wrote: WMAN2 provides support for up to 32K colours for PE window elements, direct or through the use of 1 to 4 System Palettes or a User Palette set up in RAM. True. This was the main reason for WMAN2. It also supports sprites in 8, 16 or 24 bit modes with Alpha masks or no mask, with RLE compression, of sizes only limited by its window These, however, are strictly speaking not WMAN2 features, but GD2 features (the original GD2 drivers didn't have them either, I added that stuff later). and chained as extended sprites for each mode of the clickable items. This, again, is a WMAN2 feature. Okay, I'll try to reiterate the facts: WMAN2 is like WMAN1, but: - can make use of high colour (GD2) drivers - introduced the system palette so that windows can conform to a colour theme of the user's choice - sprites in loose items (buttons) can change depending on the fact if the item is selected, the mouse is hovering above the item etc. - can show the whole window while a window is moved, or at least its outline, instead of just the move sprite. - includes 3D border styles to give windows a more modern 3D look GD2: - Introduced the extended colour modes - Can use high colour sprites - Can use alpha blending for the sprites - As sprite data can become huge, I added simple RLE compression - For solid sprites, the mask can be omitted entirely - Sprites can be as huge as the screen (this change and the last one in effect makes sprites usable as a sort of QL graphics format. The big advantage is that GD2 handles the colour mode conversions automatically) - introduced TRUE background I/O - can use a sprite as the input cursor - introduced system sprites (corresponding to the system palette users can exchange the sprites with their own and all compatible applications will use the new theme) - introduced true shadows for high colour modes As for PE for QDOS: - has all WMAN2 features except high colour support As for the rest of the stuff listed under GD2 I'm not exactly sure. Usually I tried to improve PTR_GEN enough so that apps developed for SMSQ/E can still work under QDOS (i.e. when you use system sprites, it will still work under QDOS). Under Minerva even the background I/O support should work. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] scale and drawing on the QL
I have, a few weeks ago, asked Jan Jones for permission to reprint/reformat it (whatever she agrees to) so a cleaner copy is available to the community than the scan that is generally available... Someone (Malcolm Lear?) was trying to redo this book from a scan somewhere IIRC. This might give added impetus if she agrees. I can't remember if Javier Guerra got permission for th eversion on a SPanish website or not (will try to search the old emails). Aha, found it. Yes, after we assisted Javier to get in contact with Jan Jones, he sent me an email on 25 December 2008 (yes, I am not making that date up) to say she said yes. Obviously, this only applied to the PDF version he put on the sinclairql.es website, but if she allowed him to do that, it's quite possible she might give permission again for Malcolm to release his tidied up version. I assume that any permission forthcoming in reponse to Dave's application would only cover the existing version of the book, i.e. it wouldn't allow us to add to it and enhance it. I'd like to be wrong on this, but I guess it would still be possible to write a second, supplementary book, perhaps? As for Quanta's stance on this, I did briefly correspond with Sarah Gilpin on the matter (28/12/08) so that Quanta were at least aware of the sinclairql.es PDF, and the matter was entered into the Secretary's file at the time for the record. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] scale and drawing on the QL
Years ago I scanned the whole Jan Jones book and OCR'ed the text and put it into a word document. I cleaned up most of it and was planning to add back in the drawings. I should be able to find it and give it to anyone who is working on making a better copy. It would save them some time. Tim Swenson ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] scale and drawing on the QL
Morning Tim, I should be able to find it and give it to anyone who is working on making a better copy. It would save them some time. Yes please! Thanks. Cheers, Norman. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
