Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner
On Oct 10, at 10:06 | Oct10, gdgqler wrote: George/ I use QPC2 on Windows XP on VMware on an Apple Mac. If I am in QPC2 I can put a floppy in the reader and it is instantly available, as flp2. If I attach some other device I get a window asking whether I want the device attached to the Mac or not. There was some earlier discussion about focus. Having upgraded to VMware 4, I now see what you mean. When I had VMware 2 *all* new devices automatically installed to Mac or VMware depending on the focus. Is your floppy part of the system or a removable device? If it is removable, surely you got a dialogue window the first time. Maybe you then checked the box Always perform this action in the window asking whether you wanted connection to Mac or Windows. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner
On 9 Oct 2011, at 18:52, Bryan Horstmann wrote: On 09/10/2011 10:32, Tony Firshman wrote: On 9 Oct 2011, at 10:22, Bryan Horstmannb...@newlan.org wrote: On 09/10/2011 09:39, Dave Walker wrote: -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users- boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Horstmann Sent: 09 October 2011 08:51 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner On 08/10/2011 12:10, pjwitte wrote: On 07/10/2011 17:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote: But first, I have to find new drivers for my old Benq5000 scanner. The manufacturer's site lists no drivers for Win7 64-bit and the driver on CD does not work either, even using the compatibility assistant for drivers, so I may have to do this using the old PC :-( You may be able to load drivers and run your scanner in a virtual machine. I did that successfully with a device attached to USB, for which there was no 64bit driver, in a VirtualBox machine sporting W2k. Per That's interesting. I tried the same trick with VMware for my scanner, but it wouldn't work and I was told that VMware relies on the host machine for peripheral drivers and other services. Bryan H UK That is true for non-USB devices and also where you have USB devices that you let the host OS take control of rather than the VMWare guest OS. The VMWare USB support allows for a transparent pass-through mode and in that mode you can normally use anything that the guest OS has drivers for. To use this mode you need to be running the guest OS and it must have the current focus when you plug the USB device in. Dave Walker Tel: +44 (0)1707 652791 Mob: +44 (0)7999 218953 Web: http://www.itimpi.com Skype: itimpi Thanks Dave. But I don't understand current focus. Can you explain a bit please as I struggle with the techhie bits. VMware was set up for me and I hardly understand it except that it gives me Kubuntu and W2000 (or did until the latter failed) It simply means the vmware is the current selected window. Tony Thanks for the help. There is a devices button at the top of VMware whereby the floppy can be connected to VMware or connected to the host. Is that effectively what is meant? When connected to the guest, it doesn't appear on the computer Vista devices screen. I use QPC2 on Windows XP on VMware on an Apple Mac. If I am in QPC2 I can put a floppy in the reader and it is instantly available, as flp2. If I attach some other device I get a window asking whether I want the device attached to the Mac or not. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner
On 08/10/2011 12:10, pjwitte wrote: On 07/10/2011 17:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote: But first, I have to find new drivers for my old Benq5000 scanner. The manufacturer's site lists no drivers for Win7 64-bit and the driver on CD does not work either, even using the compatibility assistant for drivers, so I may have to do this using the old PC :-( You may be able to load drivers and run your scanner in a virtual machine. I did that successfully with a device attached to USB, for which there was no 64bit driver, in a VirtualBox machine sporting W2k. Per That's interesting. I tried the same trick with VMware for my scanner, but it wouldn't work and I was told that VMware relies on the host machine for peripheral drivers and other services. Bryan H UK ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner
-Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users- boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Horstmann Sent: 09 October 2011 08:51 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner On 08/10/2011 12:10, pjwitte wrote: On 07/10/2011 17:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote: But first, I have to find new drivers for my old Benq5000 scanner. The manufacturer's site lists no drivers for Win7 64-bit and the driver on CD does not work either, even using the compatibility assistant for drivers, so I may have to do this using the old PC :-( You may be able to load drivers and run your scanner in a virtual machine. I did that successfully with a device attached to USB, for which there was no 64bit driver, in a VirtualBox machine sporting W2k. Per That's interesting. I tried the same trick with VMware for my scanner, but it wouldn't work and I was told that VMware relies on the host machine for peripheral drivers and other services. Bryan H UK That is true for non-USB devices and also where you have USB devices that you let the host OS take control of rather than the VMWare guest OS. The VMWare USB support allows for a transparent pass-through mode and in that mode you can normally use anything that the guest OS has drivers for. To use this mode you need to be running the guest OS and it must have the current focus when you plug the USB device in. Dave Walker Tel: +44 (0)1707 652791 Mob: +44 (0)7999 218953 Web: http://www.itimpi.com Skype: itimpi ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner
On 09/10/2011 09:39, Dave Walker wrote: -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users- boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Horstmann Sent: 09 October 2011 08:51 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner On 08/10/2011 12:10, pjwitte wrote: On 07/10/2011 17:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote: But first, I have to find new drivers for my old Benq5000 scanner. The manufacturer's site lists no drivers for Win7 64-bit and the driver on CD does not work either, even using the compatibility assistant for drivers, so I may have to do this using the old PC :-( You may be able to load drivers and run your scanner in a virtual machine. I did that successfully with a device attached to USB, for which there was no 64bit driver, in a VirtualBox machine sporting W2k. Per That's interesting. I tried the same trick with VMware for my scanner, but it wouldn't work and I was told that VMware relies on the host machine for peripheral drivers and other services. Bryan H UK That is true for non-USB devices and also where you have USB devices that you let the host OS take control of rather than the VMWare guest OS. The VMWare USB support allows for a transparent pass-through mode and in that mode you can normally use anything that the guest OS has drivers for. To use this mode you need to be running the guest OS and it must have the current focus when you plug the USB device in. Dave Walker Tel: +44 (0)1707 652791 Mob: +44 (0)7999 218953 Web: http://www.itimpi.com Skype: itimpi Thanks Dave. But I don't understand current focus. Can you explain a bit please as I struggle with the techhie bits. VMware was set up for me and I hardly understand it except that it gives me Kubuntu and W2000 (or did until the latter failed) Bryan Bryan ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner
On 9 Oct 2011, at 10:22, Bryan Horstmann b...@newlan.org wrote: On 09/10/2011 09:39, Dave Walker wrote: -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users- boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Horstmann Sent: 09 October 2011 08:51 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner On 08/10/2011 12:10, pjwitte wrote: On 07/10/2011 17:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote: But first, I have to find new drivers for my old Benq5000 scanner. The manufacturer's site lists no drivers for Win7 64-bit and the driver on CD does not work either, even using the compatibility assistant for drivers, so I may have to do this using the old PC :-( You may be able to load drivers and run your scanner in a virtual machine. I did that successfully with a device attached to USB, for which there was no 64bit driver, in a VirtualBox machine sporting W2k. Per That's interesting. I tried the same trick with VMware for my scanner, but it wouldn't work and I was told that VMware relies on the host machine for peripheral drivers and other services. Bryan H UK That is true for non-USB devices and also where you have USB devices that you let the host OS take control of rather than the VMWare guest OS. The VMWare USB support allows for a transparent pass-through mode and in that mode you can normally use anything that the guest OS has drivers for. To use this mode you need to be running the guest OS and it must have the current focus when you plug the USB device in. Dave Walker Tel: +44 (0)1707 652791 Mob: +44 (0)7999 218953 Web: http://www.itimpi.com Skype: itimpi Thanks Dave. But I don't understand current focus. Can you explain a bit please as I struggle with the techhie bits. VMware was set up for me and I hardly understand it except that it gives me Kubuntu and W2000 (or did until the latter failed) It simply means the vmware is the current selected window. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(1442)-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, Tring, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner
On 09/10/2011 10:32, Tony Firshman wrote: On 9 Oct 2011, at 10:22, Bryan Horstmannb...@newlan.org wrote: On 09/10/2011 09:39, Dave Walker wrote: -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users- boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Horstmann Sent: 09 October 2011 08:51 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner On 08/10/2011 12:10, pjwitte wrote: On 07/10/2011 17:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote: But first, I have to find new drivers for my old Benq5000 scanner. The manufacturer's site lists no drivers for Win7 64-bit and the driver on CD does not work either, even using the compatibility assistant for drivers, so I may have to do this using the old PC :-( You may be able to load drivers and run your scanner in a virtual machine. I did that successfully with a device attached to USB, for which there was no 64bit driver, in a VirtualBox machine sporting W2k. Per That's interesting. I tried the same trick with VMware for my scanner, but it wouldn't work and I was told that VMware relies on the host machine for peripheral drivers and other services. Bryan H UK That is true for non-USB devices and also where you have USB devices that you let the host OS take control of rather than the VMWare guest OS. The VMWare USB support allows for a transparent pass-through mode and in that mode you can normally use anything that the guest OS has drivers for. To use this mode you need to be running the guest OS and it must have the current focus when you plug the USB device in. Dave Walker Tel: +44 (0)1707 652791 Mob: +44 (0)7999 218953 Web: http://www.itimpi.com Skype: itimpi Thanks Dave. But I don't understand current focus. Can you explain a bit please as I struggle with the techhie bits. VMware was set up for me and I hardly understand it except that it gives me Kubuntu and W2000 (or did until the latter failed) It simply means the vmware is the current selected window. Tony Thanks for the help. There is a devices button at the top of VMware whereby the floppy can be connected to VMware or connected to the host. Is that effectively what is meant? When connected to the guest, it doesn't appear on the computer Vista devices screen. Bryan H ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner
Evening Bryan, Thanks for the help. There is a devices button at the top of VMware whereby the floppy can be connected to VMware or connected to the host. Is that effectively what is meant? When connected to the guest, it doesn't appear on the computer Vista devices screen. This sounds remarkably similar to when a USB device is attached to VirtualBox. When I plug in a USB device, it is first intercepted/recognised by the host and I get the option to mount it, download files, photos etc. If I choose to ignore these options and select do nothing I can click on devices-USB Devices in my guest OS and it appears there. If I click on the device, it's recognised by the guest. When done, i can un-click it, and then I get presented again by the host with my USB device options. Very neat, very simple. My printer, on the other hand, is networked. So it appears as a device on the network. Mu guest network interface is set to bridged which means it sits on the same network as the host network card does. Result? I can ping the host from the guest and vice versa. I can also ssh onto the host from the guest and so on - just like having devices on a real network. To this end, I have about 5 different VMs running on my laptop and one of them runs Scientific Linux which holds my Subversion server and repositories. The other VMs are used for different projects at work, so I keep all my source code and documents etc on the Scientific Linux VM and everything else connects over the network to it. I was never a great fan of VMs and especially VMWare (I used it at work - very slow on a Win 2000 host - but VirtualBox, I have found, to be about the best there is. HTH Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner
On Oct 9, at 18:52 | Oct9, Bryan Horstmann wrote: On 09/10/2011 10:32, Tony Firshman wrote: snip Thanks Dave. But I don't understand current focus. Can you explain a bit please as I struggle with the techhie bits. VMware was set up for me and I hardly understand it except that it gives me Kubuntu and W2000 (or did until the latter failed) It simply means the vmware is the current selected window. Tony Thanks for the help. There is a devices button at the top of VMware whereby the floppy can be connected to VMware or connected to the host. Is that effectively what is meant? When connected to the guest, it doesn't appear on the computer Vista devices screen. On the Macbook VMware this is at the bottom right, but I suspect they are the same buttons. I do not have a floppy option as there is no physical device, but yes, there are similar connect/disconnect buttons for all other physical devices. One thing I did find with qemulator is that the USB floppy is B: (under Vmware), as A: is reserved by OS X despite there being no physical device! A great bug that was in Vmware 2 when freshly installed (but not in Vmware 4) was that it defaulted to using the Macbook video camera (which is a usb device). That one beat both the 'genius' and Vmware support. I fortunately realised *before* following the Vmware advice to re-install Windows XP (8-)# I have other useful experience - private email please if interested. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner
But first, I have to find new drivers for my old Benq5000 scanner. The manufacturer's site lists no drivers for Win7 64-bit and the driver on CD does not work either, even using the compatibility assistant for drivers, so I may have to do this using the old PC :-( You may be able to load drivers and run your scanner in a virtual machine. I did that successfully with a device attached to USB, for which there was no 64bit driver, in a VirtualBox machine sporting W2k. Ah yes, I hadn't thought of doing it that way. But as it turns out it might not be necessary - my partner Ann has a HP PSC1510 multifunction with her computer which has just died on her, although I have managed a temporary repair so she can use up the remaining cartridges, so she's bought a wireless Epson multifunction which we can share (yippee, no more buying Epson AND HP cartridges) and my Epson Stylus 880 can be the cabled backup and QL printer for a while as I have stacks of inkjet cartridges for it which I bought at rock bottom prices a while back. Actually, the Stylus 880 is great because (a) it has ESC/P2, (b) compatible cartridges are ultra cheap, (c) it has both parallel and USB connections, meaning it can be connected to the Minis-QL SGC PAR port and the PC's USB at the same time and print from either, as long as both don't try to print same time - both PC and Super Gold Card lock up if I do that by mistake. Dilwyn - abusing his poor printers! but celebrating after Wales beat Darren Branagh and Urs Koenig's mobs at rugby and soccer yesterday and today :- ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner
On 07/10/2011 17:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote: But first, I have to find new drivers for my old Benq5000 scanner. The manufacturer's site lists no drivers for Win7 64-bit and the driver on CD does not work either, even using the compatibility assistant for drivers, so I may have to do this using the old PC :-( You may be able to load drivers and run your scanner in a virtual machine. I did that successfully with a device attached to USB, for which there was no 64bit driver, in a VirtualBox machine sporting W2k. Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm