Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner

2011-11-02 Thread Tony Firshman

On Oct 10, at 10:06 | Oct10, gdgqler wrote:

George/

 I use QPC2 on Windows XP on VMware on an Apple Mac. If I am in QPC2 I can put 
 a floppy in the reader and it is instantly available, as flp2. If I attach 
 some other device I get a window asking whether I want the device attached to 
 the Mac or not.
 
There was some earlier discussion about focus.
Having upgraded to VMware 4, I now see what you mean.  When I had VMware 2 
*all* new devices  automatically installed to Mac or VMware depending on the 
focus.
Is your floppy part of the system or a removable device?  If it is removable, 
surely you got a dialogue window the first time.  Maybe you then checked the 
box Always perform this action in the window asking whether you wanted 
connection to Mac or Windows.

Tony

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Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner

2011-10-10 Thread gdgqler

On 9 Oct 2011, at 18:52, Bryan Horstmann wrote:

 On 09/10/2011 10:32, Tony Firshman wrote:
 
 On 9 Oct 2011, at 10:22, Bryan Horstmannb...@newlan.org  wrote:
 
 On 09/10/2011 09:39, Dave Walker wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-
 boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Horstmann
 Sent: 09 October 2011 08:51
 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner
 
 On 08/10/2011 12:10, pjwitte wrote:
 On 07/10/2011 17:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
 
 But first, I have to find new drivers for my old Benq5000 scanner.
 The manufacturer's site lists no drivers for Win7 64-bit and the
 driver on CD does not work either, even using the compatibility
 assistant for drivers, so I may have to do this using the old PC :-(
 You may be able to load drivers and run your scanner in a virtual
 machine. I did that successfully with a device attached to  USB, for
 which there was no 64bit driver, in a VirtualBox machine sporting
 W2k.
 Per
 
 That's interesting. I tried the same trick with VMware for my scanner,
 but it wouldn't work and I was told that VMware relies on the host
 machine for peripheral drivers and other services.
 
 Bryan H
 UK
 
 That is true for non-USB devices and also where you have USB devices that
 you let the host OS take control of rather than the VMWare guest OS.
 
 The VMWare USB support allows for a transparent pass-through mode and in
 that mode you can normally use anything that the guest OS has drivers for.
 To use this mode you need to be running the guest OS and it must have the
 current focus when you plug the USB device in.
 
 Dave Walker
 
 Tel:  +44 (0)1707 652791
 Mob: +44 (0)7999 218953
 Web: http://www.itimpi.com
 Skype:  itimpi
 
 
 Thanks Dave.  But I don't understand current focus.  Can you explain a 
 bit please as I struggle with the techhie bits.  VMware was set up for me 
 and I hardly understand it except that it gives me Kubuntu and W2000 (or 
 did until the latter failed)
 It simply means the vmware is the current selected window.
 
 Tony
 Thanks for the help.  There is a devices button at the top of VMware whereby 
 the floppy can be connected to VMware or connected to the host.  Is that 
 effectively what is meant?  When connected to the guest, it doesn't appear on 
 the computer Vista devices screen.
 

I use QPC2 on Windows XP on VMware on an Apple Mac. If I am in QPC2 I can put a 
floppy in the reader and it is instantly available, as flp2. If I attach some 
other device I get a window asking whether I want the device attached to the 
Mac or not.

George

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Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner

2011-10-09 Thread Bryan Horstmann

On 08/10/2011 12:10, pjwitte wrote:

On 07/10/2011 17:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote:


But first, I have to find new drivers for my old Benq5000 scanner.
The manufacturer's site lists no drivers for Win7 64-bit and the
driver on CD does not work either, even using the compatibility
assistant for drivers, so I may have to do this using the old PC :-(
You may be able to load drivers and run your scanner in a virtual 
machine. I did that successfully with a device attached to  USB, for 
which there was no 64bit driver, in a VirtualBox machine sporting W2k.


Per

That's interesting. I tried the same trick with VMware for my scanner, 
but it wouldn't work and I was told that VMware relies on the host 
machine for peripheral drivers and other services.


Bryan H
UK

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Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner

2011-10-09 Thread Dave Walker
 -Original Message-
 From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-
 boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Horstmann
 Sent: 09 October 2011 08:51
 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner
 
 On 08/10/2011 12:10, pjwitte wrote:
  On 07/10/2011 17:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
  
  But first, I have to find new drivers for my old Benq5000 scanner.
  The manufacturer's site lists no drivers for Win7 64-bit and the
  driver on CD does not work either, even using the compatibility
  assistant for drivers, so I may have to do this using the old PC :-(
  You may be able to load drivers and run your scanner in a virtual
  machine. I did that successfully with a device attached to  USB, for
  which there was no 64bit driver, in a VirtualBox machine sporting
 W2k.
 
  Per
 
 That's interesting. I tried the same trick with VMware for my scanner,
 but it wouldn't work and I was told that VMware relies on the host
 machine for peripheral drivers and other services.
 
 Bryan H
 UK
 

That is true for non-USB devices and also where you have USB devices that
you let the host OS take control of rather than the VMWare guest OS.
   
The VMWare USB support allows for a transparent pass-through mode and in
that mode you can normally use anything that the guest OS has drivers for.
To use this mode you need to be running the guest OS and it must have the
current focus when you plug the USB device in. 

Dave Walker

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Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner

2011-10-09 Thread Bryan Horstmann

On 09/10/2011 09:39, Dave Walker wrote:

-Original Message-
From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-
boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Horstmann
Sent: 09 October 2011 08:51
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner

On 08/10/2011 12:10, pjwitte wrote:

On 07/10/2011 17:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote:


But first, I have to find new drivers for my old Benq5000 scanner.
The manufacturer's site lists no drivers for Win7 64-bit and the
driver on CD does not work either, even using the compatibility
assistant for drivers, so I may have to do this using the old PC :-(

You may be able to load drivers and run your scanner in a virtual
machine. I did that successfully with a device attached to  USB, for
which there was no 64bit driver, in a VirtualBox machine sporting

W2k.

Per


That's interesting. I tried the same trick with VMware for my scanner,
but it wouldn't work and I was told that VMware relies on the host
machine for peripheral drivers and other services.

Bryan H
UK


That is true for non-USB devices and also where you have USB devices that
you let the host OS take control of rather than the VMWare guest OS.

The VMWare USB support allows for a transparent pass-through mode and in
that mode you can normally use anything that the guest OS has drivers for.
To use this mode you need to be running the guest OS and it must have the
current focus when you plug the USB device in.

Dave Walker

Tel:  +44 (0)1707 652791
Mob: +44 (0)7999 218953
Web: http://www.itimpi.com
Skype:  itimpi


Thanks Dave.  But I don't understand current focus.  Can you explain a 
bit please as I struggle with the techhie bits.  VMware was set up for 
me and I hardly understand it except that it gives me Kubuntu and W2000 
(or did until the latter failed)


Bryan

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Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner

2011-10-09 Thread Tony Firshman


On 9 Oct 2011, at 10:22, Bryan Horstmann b...@newlan.org wrote:

 On 09/10/2011 09:39, Dave Walker wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-
 boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Horstmann
 Sent: 09 October 2011 08:51
 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner
 
 On 08/10/2011 12:10, pjwitte wrote:
 On 07/10/2011 17:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
 
 But first, I have to find new drivers for my old Benq5000 scanner.
 The manufacturer's site lists no drivers for Win7 64-bit and the
 driver on CD does not work either, even using the compatibility
 assistant for drivers, so I may have to do this using the old PC :-(
 You may be able to load drivers and run your scanner in a virtual
 machine. I did that successfully with a device attached to  USB, for
 which there was no 64bit driver, in a VirtualBox machine sporting
 W2k.
 Per
 
 That's interesting. I tried the same trick with VMware for my scanner,
 but it wouldn't work and I was told that VMware relies on the host
 machine for peripheral drivers and other services.
 
 Bryan H
 UK
 
 That is true for non-USB devices and also where you have USB devices that
 you let the host OS take control of rather than the VMWare guest OS.
 
 The VMWare USB support allows for a transparent pass-through mode and in
 that mode you can normally use anything that the guest OS has drivers for.
 To use this mode you need to be running the guest OS and it must have the
 current focus when you plug the USB device in.
 
 Dave Walker
 
 Tel:  +44 (0)1707 652791
 Mob: +44 (0)7999 218953
 Web: http://www.itimpi.com
 Skype:  itimpi
 
 
 Thanks Dave.  But I don't understand current focus.  Can you explain a bit 
 please as I struggle with the techhie bits.  VMware was set up for me and I 
 hardly understand it except that it gives me Kubuntu and W2000 (or did until 
 the latter failed)
It simply means the vmware is the current selected window.

Tony

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Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner

2011-10-09 Thread Bryan Horstmann

On 09/10/2011 10:32, Tony Firshman wrote:


On 9 Oct 2011, at 10:22, Bryan Horstmannb...@newlan.org  wrote:


On 09/10/2011 09:39, Dave Walker wrote:

-Original Message-
From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-
boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Horstmann
Sent: 09 October 2011 08:51
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner

On 08/10/2011 12:10, pjwitte wrote:

On 07/10/2011 17:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote:


But first, I have to find new drivers for my old Benq5000 scanner.
The manufacturer's site lists no drivers for Win7 64-bit and the
driver on CD does not work either, even using the compatibility
assistant for drivers, so I may have to do this using the old PC :-(

You may be able to load drivers and run your scanner in a virtual
machine. I did that successfully with a device attached to  USB, for
which there was no 64bit driver, in a VirtualBox machine sporting

W2k.

Per


That's interesting. I tried the same trick with VMware for my scanner,
but it wouldn't work and I was told that VMware relies on the host
machine for peripheral drivers and other services.

Bryan H
UK


That is true for non-USB devices and also where you have USB devices that
you let the host OS take control of rather than the VMWare guest OS.

The VMWare USB support allows for a transparent pass-through mode and in
that mode you can normally use anything that the guest OS has drivers for.
To use this mode you need to be running the guest OS and it must have the
current focus when you plug the USB device in.

Dave Walker

Tel:  +44 (0)1707 652791
Mob: +44 (0)7999 218953
Web: http://www.itimpi.com
Skype:  itimpi



Thanks Dave.  But I don't understand current focus.  Can you explain a bit 
please as I struggle with the techhie bits.  VMware was set up for me and I hardly 
understand it except that it gives me Kubuntu and W2000 (or did until the latter failed)

It simply means the vmware is the current selected window.

Tony
Thanks for the help.  There is a devices button at the top of VMware 
whereby the floppy can be connected to VMware or connected to the host.  
Is that effectively what is meant?  When connected to the guest, it 
doesn't appear on the computer Vista devices screen.


Bryan H

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Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner

2011-10-09 Thread Norman Dunbar

Evening Bryan,


Thanks for the help. There is a devices button at the top of VMware
whereby the floppy can be connected to VMware or connected to the host.
Is that effectively what is meant? When connected to the guest, it
doesn't appear on the computer Vista devices screen.
This sounds remarkably similar to when a USB device is attached to 
VirtualBox.


When I plug in a USB device, it is first intercepted/recognised by the 
host and I get the option to mount it, download files, photos etc. If I 
choose to ignore these options and select do nothing I can click on 
devices-USB Devices in my guest OS and it appears there. If I click on 
the device, it's recognised by the guest.


When done, i can un-click it, and then I get presented again by the host 
with my USB device options. Very neat, very simple.


My printer, on the other hand, is networked. So it appears as a device 
on the network. Mu guest network interface is set to bridged which 
means it sits on the same network as the host network card does. Result? 
I can ping the host from the guest and vice versa. I can also ssh onto 
the host from the guest and so on - just like having devices on a real 
network.


To this end, I have about 5 different VMs running on my laptop and one 
of them runs Scientific Linux which holds my Subversion server and 
repositories. The other VMs are used for different projects at work, so 
I keep all my source code and documents etc on the Scientific Linux VM 
and everything else connects over the network to it.


I was never a great fan of VMs and especially VMWare (I used it at work 
- very slow on a Win 2000 host - but VirtualBox, I have found, to be 
about the best there is.



HTH


Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner

2011-10-09 Thread Tony Firshman

On Oct 9, at 18:52 | Oct9, Bryan Horstmann wrote:

 On 09/10/2011 10:32, Tony Firshman wrote:
snip
 
 
 Thanks Dave.  But I don't understand current focus.  Can you explain a 
 bit please as I struggle with the techhie bits.  VMware was set up for me 
 and I hardly understand it except that it gives me Kubuntu and W2000 (or 
 did until the latter failed)
 It simply means the vmware is the current selected window.
 
 Tony
 Thanks for the help.  There is a devices button at the top of VMware whereby 
 the floppy can be connected to VMware or connected to the host.  Is that 
 effectively what is meant?  When connected to the guest, it doesn't appear on 
 the computer Vista devices screen.
 
On the Macbook VMware this is at the bottom right, but I suspect they are the 
same buttons.  I do not have a floppy option as there is no physical device, 
but yes, there are similar connect/disconnect buttons for all other physical 
devices.
One thing I did find with qemulator is that the USB floppy is B: (under 
Vmware), as A: is reserved by OS X despite there being no physical device!
A great bug that was in Vmware 2 when freshly installed (but not in Vmware 4) 
was that it defaulted to using the Macbook video camera (which is a usb 
device). That one beat both the 'genius' and Vmware support.  I fortunately 
realised *before* following the Vmware advice to re-install Windows XP (8-)#

I have other useful experience - private email please if interested.

Tony


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Re: [Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner

2011-10-08 Thread Dilwyn Jones

But first, I have to find new drivers for my old Benq5000 scanner.
The manufacturer's site lists no drivers for Win7 64-bit and the
driver on CD does not work either, even using the compatibility
assistant for drivers, so I may have to do this using the old PC :-(
You may be able to load drivers and run your scanner in a virtual machine. 
I did that successfully with a device attached to  USB, for which there 
was no 64bit driver, in a VirtualBox machine sporting W2k.

Ah yes, I hadn't thought of doing it that way.

But as it turns out it might not be necessary - my partner Ann has a HP 
PSC1510 multifunction with her computer which has just died on her, although 
I have managed a temporary repair so she can use up the remaining 
cartridges, so she's bought a wireless Epson multifunction which we can 
share (yippee, no more buying Epson AND HP cartridges) and my Epson Stylus 
880 can be the cabled backup and QL printer for a while as I have stacks of 
inkjet cartridges for it which I bought at rock bottom prices a while back.


Actually, the Stylus 880 is great because (a) it has ESC/P2, (b) compatible 
cartridges are ultra cheap, (c) it has both parallel and USB connections, 
meaning it can be connected to the Minis-QL SGC PAR port and the PC's USB at 
the same time and print from either, as long as both don't try to print same 
time - both PC and Super Gold Card lock up if I do that by mistake.


Dilwyn - abusing his poor printers! but celebrating after Wales beat Darren 
Branagh and Urs Koenig's mobs at rugby and soccer yesterday and today :- 




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[Ql-Users] Dilwyn's scanner

2011-10-07 Thread pjwitte

On 07/10/2011 17:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote:


But first, I have to find new drivers for my old Benq5000 scanner.
The manufacturer's site lists no drivers for Win7 64-bit and the
driver on CD does not work either, even using the compatibility
assistant for drivers, so I may have to do this using the old PC :-(
You may be able to load drivers and run your scanner in a virtual 
machine. I did that successfully with a device attached to  USB, for 
which there was no 64bit driver, in a VirtualBox machine sporting W2k.


Per
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