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I was at an Ohio swapmeet in July and there were 400 traders, most with classic bikes. There were 1000 traders. You could not possibly walk it all in a day. The organizers are so happy they have doubled the fee to be a trader. See www.vintagefocus.com to learn something about vintage motorcycle and otherwise events in the US. There is a big yearly vintage show in Germany and Italy (must be one in the UK). I would like to attend them some year. Hopefully there will be a nearby QL show for me to attend at the same time. Back on subject. -- Bill ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 at 10:46:23, Bill Cable wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I was at an Ohio swapmeet in July and there were 400 traders, most with classic bikes. There were 1000 traders. Wow. That is a lot. You could not possibly walk it all in a day. The organizers are so happy they have doubled the fee to be a trader. See www.vintagefocus.com to learn something about vintage motorcycle and otherwise events in the US. There is a big yearly vintage show in Germany and Italy (must be one in the UK). I would like to attend them some year. Hopefully there will be a nearby QL show for me to attend at the same time. Back on subject. Let us know when your favoured European shows are. Often the dates of shows are fairly arbitrary, so arranging one to encourage you to visit seems a worthwhile activity! Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Dilwyn Jones wrote: Cash is not really an option - too risky to send in the post snip what chance is there that posting a £10 note from, say, Belgium to England is legal? Sending money via 'postal service' is always illegal in Belgium. François Van Emelen snip ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Tony Firshman wrote: On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 22:40:41, Bill Waugh wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Rich Mellor wrote: snip perhaps we should remember the QL world has seen a few doubtful traders in the past, fortunately I was never involved with any of that type, in fact I think I have dealt with all the present traders and have found them all to be top notch. ( he he can you tell I need a lot of upgrades, though I also want QDT and word) QWord and the upgrades from me are already available Bill, so what is stopping you SWMBO,two classic motor cycles, four delightful grandchildren, two not so delightful grandchildrens parents, four sets of obligatory tacky Christmas lights now to take down, a cat, a dog, a loft full of stuff that's mine that I cant remember gathering and now want to get rid of, a sky dish that's not aligned correctly, making a decision whether to re-align the dish or cancel Sky, I can loan you an alignment meter. Hey thanks I might take that offer up( might also tell Sky to take a hike wasting to much time buying bits of old classic bike on Ebay, Are you in touch with Bill Cable. He is into classic British and German motorbikes. He is a regular at US 'swapmeets' where there are real bargains in European spares. He says someone visiting from the UK could make a real killing buying and shipping back parts. I was at an Ohio swapmeet in July and there were 400 traders, most with classic bikes. He has just built a new building to house his collection. I rebuilt a 1950s BMW engine for him when I was last there. It started for the first time in 8 years. Yes I have mailed Bill a time or two I recall, I bought a alloy head for the A10 from the Canada via Ebay, even with shipping it was about half the price I would have paid here trying to play Badminton with a 61 year old leg Is that leg younger or older than you (8-)# same age I'm told but feels older that has both a gammy knee and a pulled calf muscle (the knee has been in the care of the NHS for two years now ) I hope they return it soon. They haven't got it yet theve just been looking , building yet anther shed to hold stuff ( some of it Ql related ) I now have seven sheds - two housing QL stuff. Oh dear I'm still four sheds behind you All the best - Bill ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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I deny that. I am never more than 100% honest (8-)# Close to a paradox there. If you agreed you were 110% honest you would be lying and therefore not if you could calculate variations,percentages.. like Freddie (;-) All the best - Bill I remember a conversation with Freddy after a workshop somewhere where he bet me £1 he could prove 2=3 (not saure of the values, but sommething like that) and that I could not disprove him. Needless to say I went home £1 poorer (and it was only £1 because he knew I'd never accept a challenge from him for more than £1 because I knew I'd lose and I always did). -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 at 20:26:21, Bill Waugh wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Tony Firshman wrote: snip making a decision whether to re-align the dish or cancel Sky, I can loan you an alignment meter. Hey thanks I might take that offer up( might also tell Sky to take a hike It is one that needs a bit of intelligence - ie one has a separate compass, and it sometimes needs a bit of sensitivity tweaking. I last set it up for Sky so it should work out of the box. All you have to remember is that the location is measured as East of South. That means the first major hit at 19.2E (of South) is not Sky, but the other Astra containing mainly German programmes. Sky Astra is at 28.something E (of South) and higher in the sky. It is the next major hit. My meter is not sensitive enough to pick up any others reliably, which is a good thing really. I realised when the 'pros' were setting up a satellite in Kuala Lumpur in 2003 that the job actually was not too difficult. They had no idea of what I meant about the importance of elevation. They did it by looking at other satellites and lining up by eye. They then tuned into a setup channel which produced a very loud tone when it got -any- signal from the satellite (Astro). They had heard of alignment meters but had never used one! ... and these cowboys were Astro employees. trying to play Badminton with a 61 year old leg Is that leg younger or older than you (8-)# same age I'm told but feels older (8-)# My right knee is telling me the same thing right now. Cycling was difficult today. Exercise though seems to help it. Sleep makes it worse. , building yet anther shed to hold stuff ( some of it Ql related ) I now have seven sheds - two housing QL stuff. Oh dear I'm still four sheds behind you I am thinking of another. I have just bought a -very- nice HP printer and am looking for an old steam folder/stapler, and will need extra space. I have got it to do our local church brochure (800 booklets a month) but am looking to offer my services. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 23:18:25, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) snip I remember a conversation with Freddy after a workshop somewhere where he bet me £1 he could prove 2=3 (not saure of the values, but sommething like that) and that I could not disprove him. Needless to say I went home £1 poorer (and it was only £1 because he knew I'd never accept a challenge from him for more than £1 because I knew I'd lose and I always did). It probably involved the use of zero. You can make -any- number equal -any- other that way. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 at 23:18:10, Rich Mellor wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 00:18:31 +0100, François Van Emelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gwicks wrote: snip It is not always easy to transfer funds from one country to another, especially if you don't have the right bit of plastic. You're quite right. I have had some unpleasant surprises (not due to traders or suppliers) from my own bank. The equivalent of 15 euros disappeared in thin air and as the enquiry isn't closed yet, I prefer not to transfer money abroad. Trouble is that banks charge money to transfer money abroad and to receive it (UK banks charge around £25 to accept a foreign payment !!) ... not if it is drawn on a UK branch of a foreign bank. That is why PayPal is so good - only your credit card to think about and no extra charges really. I simply don't like dealing with a foreign based company. There would be real hassles if problems arose. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:26:29 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 at 23:18:10, Rich Mellor wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 00:18:31 +0100, Franois Van Emelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gwicks wrote: snip It is not always easy to transfer funds from one country to another, especially if you don't have the right bit of plastic. You're quite right. I have had some unpleasant surprises (not due to traders or suppliers) from my own bank. The equivalent of 15 euros disappeared in thin air and as the enquiry isn't closed yet, I prefer not to transfer money abroad. Trouble is that banks charge money to transfer money abroad and to receive it (UK banks charge around 25 to accept a foreign payment !!) ... not if it is drawn on a UK branch of a foreign bank. Oh yes, there is that option, provided of course that it is also drawn in Pounds Sterling - though no idea how much a foreign bank would charge their customer for this service - bet it is not just the exchange rate !! That is why PayPal is so good - only your credit card to think about and no extra charges really. I simply don't like dealing with a foreign based company. There would be real hassles if problems arose. But Tony, we are not talking about foreign based companies - we are talking about QL traders accepting payments - all the QL traders have been around more than long enough to be trustworthy by now, surely.. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 10:57:24, Rich Mellor wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) That is why PayPal is so good - only your credit card to think about and no extra charges really. I simply don't like dealing with a foreign based company. There would be real hassles if problems arose. But Tony, we are not talking about foreign based companies - we are talking about QL traders accepting payments - all the QL traders have been around more than long enough to be trustworthy by now, surely.. The foreign company I am talking about is paypal itself. I am talking about chargebacks etc to customers, not trouble with traders. Paypal is -very- bad when things go worng. There is no UK law to help me here. In any case, 6% is far too much. In all my overseas trading I have had no trouble getting customers to use IMOs or bankers drafts, or even cash. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 11:05:10 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 10:57:24, Rich Mellor wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) That is why PayPal is so good - only your credit card to think about and no extra charges really. I simply don't like dealing with a foreign based company. There would be real hassles if problems arose. But Tony, we are not talking about foreign based companies - we are talking about QL traders accepting payments - all the QL traders have been around more than long enough to be trustworthy by now, surely.. The foreign company I am talking about is paypal itself. Oh right I see what you mean - they are a US company and I have never had any problems myself, having used them for over 3 years. Any credit card payment processor can cause you problems with chargebacks etc - they tend to refund the customer money first. However, if you want to accept credit card payments and do not want to fork out the setting up fees and monthly fees for a merchant account (or cannot justify them), then I see no real alternative. If anyone knows of one, then I'd be interested I am talking about chargebacks etc to customers, not trouble with traders. Paypal is -very- bad when things go worng. There is no UK law to help me here. In any case, 6% is far too much. As I said in reply to the other message - 6% was a bit of an exaggeration. Just build this into your pricing. In all my overseas trading I have had no trouble getting customers to use IMOs or bankers drafts, or even cash. The trouble is that if you are selling via a website in the main, it is much easier for customers to click on a link and enter their credit card details for payment. If you insist on them sending IMOs or bankers drafts, they have to take account of the extra fees and it is then a question of whether they can bother going to the bank to sort it out - you normally lose a sale this way. The other problem is the customer finding a bank in their country which has a UK branch - if they are not a customer of that bank, then they have to pay even more on the main. How many customers are going to pay 5 - 10 (or more) fee just to order something for 7.50 (which is one of my main orders - Spectrum keyboard membranes). Cash is not really an option - too risky to send in the post and after all, it is illegal to send cash in the UK postal system. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 11:16:54, Rich Mellor wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Cash is not really an option - too risky to send in the post I find the -only- risky thing is to send money registered. The only time I had a customer lose money was when a registered letter obviously containing money was opened. If paper money is sent in an ordinary envelope, the risk of loss is negligible. The only issue then is trust in me (8-)# and after all, it is illegal to send cash in the UK postal system. I don't believe this. I quote from the Royal Mail web site: --- When to choose extra compensation... When you send anything valuable, like jewellery, DVDs or money, extra compensation is a small price to pay for added reassurance. - Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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A word of caution here for people paying through Paypal.. My daughter lost 500 last year. She bought tickets for the Reading Festival through e-bay, and paid through Paypal after the box-office had sold them, but before they had printed or distributed them. By e-bay rules she had to pay immediately. She waited until the tickets had been distributed (which was much later this year than previously) but when hers were not sent on to her she tried to contact the parties concerned. The person selling had, by then, disappeared. Both E-bay and Paypal refused to get involved because it was too long after the transaction. The matter was referred to the police, who seem to have done SFA about it, even though the seller could be traced via his ISP. Of course, I'm not suggesting that any of the QL traders are anything other than 110% trustworthy, but domestic consumer protection law just does not apply, and I, personally would not use them until they improve in that respect. (In fact I was considering starting a pressure group to try to encourage a boycott to force them to change their policy - but life's too short...) Jeremy Paypal is -very- bad when things go worng. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/04 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Rich Mellor wrote: Oh right I see what you mean - they are a US company and I have never had any problems myself, having used them for over 3 years. Just don't keep any money in their account. Account because they are very careful not to be a bank in the eye of the law. This way you're basically at their mercy: http://www.paypalsucks.com/ Of course, PayPal is a convenient way to do things, at least as long as it works. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Rich Mellor wrote: On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:02:23 +, Jeremy Taffel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A word of caution here for people paying through Paypal.. My daughter lost 500 last year. She bought tickets for the Reading Festival through e-bay, and paid through Paypal after the box-office had sold them, but before they had printed or distributed them. By e-bay rules she had to pay immediately. She waited until the tickets had been distributed (which was much later this year than previously) but when hers were not sent on to her she tried to contact the parties concerned. The person selling had, by then, disappeared. Both E-bay and Paypal refused to get involved because it was too long after the transaction. The matter was referred to the police, who seem to have done SFA about it, even though the seller could be traced via his ISP. Same problem as dealing with any trader over the internet - however you pay them. You need to know that they are reliable really !! Agreed, and you can't always trust feedback either, I recently bought an item from Ebay that was totally wrong for the purpose described, the seller has sold a lot of stuff on Ebay ( well over a thousand items ) but got this one wrong, it can happen but two emails to him got no response so I went through Paypal claims procedure, it was easy and I got compensated to the full amount, it did cost me postage to return the item however. perhaps we should remember the QL world has seen a few doubtful traders in the past, fortunately I was never involved with any of that type, in fact I think I have dealt with all the present traders and have found them all to be top notch. ( he he can you tell I need a lot of upgrades, though I also want QDT and word) All the best - Bill ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Cash is not really an option - too risky to send in the post I find the -only- risky thing is to send money registered. The only time I had a customer lose money was when a registered letter obviously containing money was opened. If paper money is sent in an ordinary envelope, the risk of loss is negligible. The only issue then is trust in me (8-)# and after all, it is illegal to send cash in the UK postal system. I don't believe this. I quote from the Royal Mail web site: --- When to choose extra compensation... When you send anything valuable, like jewellery, DVDs or money, extra compensation is a small price to pay for added reassurance. - Yes, I seem to remember something about sending banknotes in the post abroad, although my memory of this is from the time when you had to attach the little green stickers for customs to France Germany, Ireland... things might be different now. When we were in Jersey, we realised from the travel documents that channel islands currency should not be brought back to the UK (technically Jersey, Guernsey, Sark, Alderney etc are not part of the UK, some kind of affiliation to the UK or something), even though it's the same currency, albeit a local Jersey £1 coin like we have different versions of the currency in northern Ireland, Scotland, etc. Probably true of Isle of Man, Gibraltar, Falklands etc too. And if we are not supposed to bring currency of these offshore Channel Islands back to the mainland, what chance is there that posting a £10 note from, say, Belgium to England is legal? Would be interesting to get the full correct answer to this! -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 12:02:23, Jeremy Taffel wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) caution snipped Of course, I'm not suggesting that any of the QL traders are anything other than 110% trustworthy, I deny that. I am never more than 100% honest (8-)# but domestic consumer protection law just does not apply, and I, personally would not use them until they improve in that respect. (In fact I was considering starting a pressure group to try to encourage a boycott to force them to change their policy - but life's too short...) Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Mon, 3 Jan 2005 19:27:45 -,() Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: of these offshore Channel Islands back to the mainland, Now that is funny ;-) Channel Islands are offshore but the British Isles are MainLand :-) hehehe Ffibys Seriously now it has to do with their Tax shelter status ;-) All to bring businesses in ;-) Cyprus was doing something similar but AFAIK cannot anymore -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:17:41 +, Bill Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rich Mellor wrote: On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:02:23 +, Jeremy Taffel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A word of caution here for people paying through Paypal.. My daughter lost 500 last year. She bought tickets for the Reading Festival through e-bay, and paid through Paypal after the box-office had sold them, but before they had printed or distributed them. By e-bay rules she had to pay immediately. She waited until the tickets had been distributed (which was much later this year than previously) but when hers were not sent on to her she tried to contact the parties concerned. The person selling had, by then, disappeared. Both E-bay and Paypal refused to get involved because it was too long after the transaction. The matter was referred to the police, who seem to have done SFA about it, even though the seller could be traced via his ISP. Same problem as dealing with any trader over the internet - however you pay them. You need to know that they are reliable really !! Agreed, and you can't always trust feedback either, I recently bought an item from Ebay that was totally wrong for the purpose described, the seller has sold a lot of stuff on Ebay ( well over a thousand items ) but got this one wrong, it can happen but two emails to him got no response so I went through Paypal claims procedure, it was easy and I got compensated to the full amount, it did cost me postage to return the item however. Yes, I had a similar experience, but was refunded my payment without problems. perhaps we should remember the QL world has seen a few doubtful traders in the past, fortunately I was never involved with any of that type, in fact I think I have dealt with all the present traders and have found them all to be top notch. ( he he can you tell I need a lot of upgrades, though I also want QDT and word) QWord and the upgrades from me are already available Bill, so what is stopping you -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 13:37:05, Rich Mellor wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:02:23 +, Jeremy Taffel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A word of caution here for people paying through Paypal.. My daughter lost £500 last year. She bought tickets for the Reading Festival through e-bay, and paid through Paypal after the box-office had sold them, but before they had printed or distributed them. By e-bay rules she had to pay immediately. She waited until the tickets had been distributed (which was much later this year than previously) but when hers were not sent on to her she tried to contact the parties concerned. The person selling had, by then, disappeared. Both E-bay and Paypal refused to get involved because it was too long after the transaction. The matter was referred to the police, who seem to have done SFA about it, even though the seller could be traced via his ISP. Same problem as dealing with any trader over the internet - however you pay them. You need to know that they are reliable really !! You can't blame PayPal or eBay - your daughter should have paid via escrow knowing that the tickets were not yet printed. If the seller does not offer that option, then don't deal with them - under escrow the money is held until you confirm that the goods have been received. You have to be -very- careful of online escrow. There are many cases of dummy escrow sites which are -very- convincing. Have a read of this: http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/ A brilliant piece of anti-scammer work. I had lost my link, but I remembered they has misspelt Edgware Road as 'Edgeware, so google found it! If the seller has disappeared, not much that PayPal or eBay can do - they only provide the platform for paying and receiving money / selling and buying goods. Your daughter should have gone to her credit card company - they will refund any payment over £50 if it turns out to be to a fraudulent trader or the trader gets put into liquidation. I am pretty sure that this applies -only- to transactions over £100, and they will refund the total amount. However a recent case suggests this will only work for a UK transaction, not overseas. Of course, I'm not suggesting that any of the QL traders are anything other than 110% trustworthy, but domestic consumer protection law just does not apply, and I, personally would not use them until they improve in that respect. (In fact I was considering starting a pressure group to try to encourage a boycott to force them to change their policy - but life's too short...) Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 17:17:41, Bill Waugh wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) perhaps we should remember the QL world has seen a few doubtful traders in the past, Indeed it has. I suppose Medic was the most high profile. He (Skoglund?) spent a time in prison for his sins. There was even a very dodgy user group ( and I don't mean IQLUG). I think there were five real rogues to my knowledge, with three in the UK. That is the main advantage of the small market now - it can never attract that sort of person (8-)# fortunately I was never involved with any of that type, in fact I think I have dealt with all the present traders and have found them all to be top notch. ( he he can you tell I need a lot of upgrades, though I also want QDT and word) ... mind you it has been 7 years since you tested me out (8-)# Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 17:21:42, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On 3 Jan 2005 at 9:26, Tony Firshman wrote: I simply don't like dealing with a foreign based company. There would be real hassles if problems arose. Fortunately, we continentals don't think the same way, who would you sell to? I am talking about paypal and not customers or foreign stores. I did look at their conditions and was totally put off. I had basically to sign away too many of my statutory rights and accept their own. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP I deny that. I am never more than 100% honest (8-)# Close to a paradox there. If you agreed you were 110% honest you would be lying and therefore -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QWord payment
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:26:08 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 17:21:42, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On 3 Jan 2005 at 9:26, Tony Firshman wrote: I simply don't like dealing with a foreign based company. There would be real hassles if problems arose. Fortunately, we continentals don't think the same way, who would you sell to? I am talking about paypal and not customers or foreign stores. I did look at their conditions and was totally put off. I had basically to sign away too many of my statutory rights and accept their own. Somehow I doubt that you could sign away your statutory rights - after all, they hold the position of power over the consumer... -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:14:10 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 13:37:05, Rich Mellor wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:02:23 +, Jeremy Taffel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A word of caution here for people paying through Paypal.. My daughter lost 500 last year. She bought tickets for the Reading Festival through e-bay, and paid through Paypal after the box-office had sold them, but before they had printed or distributed them. By e-bay rules she had to pay immediately. She waited until the tickets had been distributed (which was much later this year than previously) but when hers were not sent on to her she tried to contact the parties concerned. The person selling had, by then, disappeared. Both E-bay and Paypal refused to get involved because it was too long after the transaction. The matter was referred to the police, who seem to have done SFA about it, even though the seller could be traced via his ISP. Same problem as dealing with any trader over the internet - however you pay them. You need to know that they are reliable really !! You can't blame PayPal or eBay - your daughter should have paid via escrow knowing that the tickets were not yet printed. If the seller does not offer that option, then don't deal with them - under escrow the money is held until you confirm that the goods have been received. You have to be -very- careful of online escrow. There are many cases of dummy escrow sites which are -very- convincing. Have a read of this: http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/ A brilliant piece of anti-scammer work. I had lost my link, but I remembered they has misspelt Edgware Road as 'Edgeware, so google found it! That is a very good story - there have always been people trying to scam traders ever since people started selling things... If the seller has disappeared, not much that PayPal or eBay can do - they only provide the platform for paying and receiving money / selling and buying goods. Your daughter should have gone to her credit card company - they will refund any payment over 50 if it turns out to be to a fraudulent trader or the trader gets put into liquidation. I am pretty sure that this applies -only- to transactions over 100, and they will refund the total amount. However a recent case suggests this will only work for a UK transaction, not overseas. Hmm possibly - always worth asking them though -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QWord payment
- Original Message - From: Rich Mellor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo The problem is that QL software is supplied on a very tight budget - doesn't really leave any room to let others take a share of sale proceeds, especially after taking account of the cost of getting the disks and manuals etc to the trader in the first place. Also, having stocks with other traders also causes problems when you update the software (or need to keep a list of your customers since traders don't always get these details). I can echo these sentiments. About 18 months ago I stopped Just Words! sales via third parties. It was unpleasant for me and for the other traders, but there were just too many problems and it meant my deficit was uncontrollable. Last year was the first complete year under the new system and I have remained in control of the deficit. For similar reasons I continue to refuse to advertise in Quanta. My experience is that Quanta does not have the reliability of QL-Today. I also take strong exception to the fact that Quanta wants traders to advertise in its magazine, but rarely reciprocates when we ask for copy for our emails and snail mails advertising Quanta sponsored shows. I find that obscene when every trader makes a loss but Quanta is sitting on a bank balance of 16,000. And in case any one queries this, I am writing as a trader and not as a member of the Quanta committee, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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- Original Message - From: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QWord payment On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 13:37:05, Rich Mellor wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:02:23 +, Jeremy Taffel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A word of caution here for people paying through Paypal.. My daughter lost £500 last year. She bought tickets for the Reading Festival through e-bay, and paid through Paypal after the box-office had sold them, but before they had printed or distributed them. By e-bay rules she had to pay immediately. She waited until the tickets had been distributed (which was much later this year than previously) but when hers were not sent on to her she tried to contact the parties concerned. The person selling had, by then, disappeared. Both E-bay and Paypal refused to get involved because it was too long after the transaction. The matter was referred to the police, who seem to have done SFA about it, even though the seller could be traced via his ISP. Same problem as dealing with any trader over the internet - however you pay them. You need to know that they are reliable really !! You can't blame PayPal or eBay - your daughter should have paid via escrow knowing that the tickets were not yet printed. If the seller does not offer that option, then don't deal with them - under escrow the money is held until you confirm that the goods have been received. You have to be -very- careful of online escrow. There are many cases of dummy escrow sites which are -very- convincing. Have a read of this: http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/ A brilliant piece of anti-scammer work. I had lost my link, but I remembered they has misspelt Edgware Road as 'Edgeware, so google found it! If the seller has disappeared, not much that PayPal or eBay can do - they only provide the platform for paying and receiving money / selling and buying goods. Your daughter should have gone to her credit card company - they will refund any payment over £50 if it turns out to be to a fraudulent trader or the trader gets put into liquidation. I am pretty sure that this applies -only- to transactions over £100, and they will refund the total amount. However a recent case suggests this will only work for a UK transaction, not overseas. There is now a www.paypal.co.uk, wher you pay in pounds rather than dollars! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 22:29:13, Dr Colin F Parsons wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman Rich: Your daughter should have gone to her credit card company - they will refund any payment over £50 if it turns out to be to a fraudulent trader or the trader gets put into liquidation. Me: I am pretty sure that this applies -only- to transactions over £100, and they will refund the total amount. However a recent case suggests this will only work for a UK transaction, not overseas. You: There is now a www.paypal.co.uk, wher you pay in pounds rather than dollars! You need to get your inline quoting working in Outlook Express. It is configurable. What you sent is pretty bad as there is no way of knowing what was mine or yours. It then all becomes pretty incomprehensible. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QWord payment
Rich Mellor wrote: snip perhaps we should remember the QL world has seen a few doubtful traders in the past, fortunately I was never involved with any of that type, in fact I think I have dealt with all the present traders and have found them all to be top notch. ( he he can you tell I need a lot of upgrades, though I also want QDT and word) QWord and the upgrades from me are already available Bill, so what is stopping you SWMBO,two classic motor cycles, four delightful grandchildren, two not so delightful grandchildrens parents, four sets of obligatory tacky Christmas lights now to take down, a cat, a dog, a loft full of stuff that's mine that I cant remember gathering and now want to get rid of, a sky dish that's not aligned correctly, making a decision whether to re-align the dish or cancel Sky, wasting to much time buying bits of old classic bike on Ebay, trying to play Badminton with a 61 year old leg that has both a gammy knee and a pulled calf muscle (the knee has been in the care of the NHS for two years now ), building yet anther shed to hold stuff ( some of it Ql related ) oh and a full time job that keeps me out of mischief for an average 50 plus hours a week - I've yet to obtain the partridge in a pear tree but I'm sure it's not far off. Roll on retirement and the bliss of not being able to afford half of this. All the best - Bill ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:40:41 +, Bill Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rich Mellor wrote: snip perhaps we should remember the QL world has seen a few doubtful traders in the past, fortunately I was never involved with any of that type, in fact I think I have dealt with all the present traders and have found them all to be top notch. ( he he can you tell I need a lot of upgrades, though I also want QDT and word) QWord and the upgrades from me are already available Bill, so what is stopping you SWMBO,two classic motor cycles, four delightful grandchildren, two not so delightful grandchildrens parents, four sets of obligatory tacky Christmas lights now to take down, a cat, a dog, a loft full of stuff that's mine that I cant remember gathering and now want to get rid of, a sky dish that's not aligned correctly, making a decision whether to re-align the dish or cancel Sky, wasting to much time buying bits of old classic bike on Ebay, trying to play Badminton with a 61 year old leg that has both a gammy knee and a pulled calf muscle (the knee has been in the care of the NHS for two years now ), building yet anther shed to hold stuff ( some of it Ql related ) oh and a full time job that keeps me out of mischief for an average 50 plus hours a week - I've yet to obtain the partridge in a pear tree but I'm sure it's not far off. Roll on retirement and the bliss of not being able to afford half of this. With all that lot Bill, you probably don't have time for Sky !! Cancel it and get QWord instead - its much more entertaining -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Tony Firshman wrote: On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 17:17:41, Bill Waugh wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) perhaps we should remember the QL world has seen a few doubtful traders in the past, Indeed it has. I suppose Medic was the most high profile. He (Skoglund?) spent a time in prison for his sins. There was even a very dodgy user group ( and I don't mean IQLUG). I think there were five real rogues to my knowledge, with three in the UK. That is the main advantage of the small market now - it can never attract that sort of person (8-)# fortunately I was never involved with any of that type, in fact I think I have dealt with all the present traders and have found them all to be top notch. ( he he can you tell I need a lot of upgrades, though I also want QDT and word) ... mind you it has been 7 years since you tested me out (8-)# Tony That would be SH you fitted at a workshop ( cant recall where ) All the best - Bill ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Roy wood wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP I deny that. I am never more than 100% honest (8-)# Close to a paradox there. If you agreed you were 110% honest you would be lying and therefore not if you could calculate variations,percentages.. like Freddie (;-) All the best - Bill ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QWord payment
Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:50:25 +,() Bill Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Tony Firshman wrote: On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 17:17:41, Bill Waugh wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) perhaps we should remember the QL world has seen a few doubtful traders in the past, Indeed it has. I suppose Medic was the most high profile. He (Skoglund?) spent a time in prison for his sins. There was even a very dodgy user group ( and I don't mean IQLUG). I think there were five real rogues to my knowledge, with three in the UK. That is the main advantage of the small market now - it can never attract that sort of person (8-)# fortunately I was never involved with any of that type, in fact I think I have dealt with all the present traders and have found them all to be top notch. ( he he can you tell I need a lot of upgrades, though I also want QDT and word) ... mind you it has been 7 years since you tested me out (8-)# Tony That would be SH you fitted at a workshop ( cant recall where ) All the best - Bill Which proves what a good product sH is (And I mean it :-) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QWord payment
Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:49:46 -,() Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: With all that lot Bill, you probably don't have time for Sky !! Cancel it and get QWord instead - its much more entertaining or get both QWord and a Dreambox and watch Sky for free ;-) (Sorry you still have to pay for QWord though) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QWord payment
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 22:40:41, Bill Waugh wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Rich Mellor wrote: snip perhaps we should remember the QL world has seen a few doubtful traders in the past, fortunately I was never involved with any of that type, in fact I think I have dealt with all the present traders and have found them all to be top notch. ( he he can you tell I need a lot of upgrades, though I also want QDT and word) QWord and the upgrades from me are already available Bill, so what is stopping you SWMBO,two classic motor cycles, four delightful grandchildren, two not so delightful grandchildrens parents, four sets of obligatory tacky Christmas lights now to take down, a cat, a dog, a loft full of stuff that's mine that I cant remember gathering and now want to get rid of, a sky dish that's not aligned correctly, making a decision whether to re-align the dish or cancel Sky, I can loan you an alignment meter. wasting to much time buying bits of old classic bike on Ebay, Are you in touch with Bill Cable. He is into classic British and German motorbikes. He is a regular at US 'swapmeets' where there are real bargains in European spares. He says someone visiting from the UK could make a real killing buying and shipping back parts. I was at an Ohio swapmeet in July and there were 400 traders, most with classic bikes. He has just built a new building to house his collection. I rebuilt a 1950s BMW engine for him when I was last there. It started for the first time in 8 years. trying to play Badminton with a 61 year old leg Is that leg younger or older than you (8-)# that has both a gammy knee and a pulled calf muscle (the knee has been in the care of the NHS for two years now ) I hope they return it soon. , building yet anther shed to hold stuff ( some of it Ql related ) I now have seven sheds - two housing QL stuff. oh and a full time job that keeps me out of mischief for an average 50 plus hours a week - I've yet to obtain the partridge in a pear tree but I'm sure it's not far off. Roll on retirement and the bliss of not being able to afford half of this. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] QWord payment
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:59:15 -0500, Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:49:46 -,() Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: With all that lot Bill, you probably don't have time for Sky !! Cancel it and get QWord instead - its much more entertaining or get both QWord and a Dreambox and watch Sky for free ;-) (Sorry you still have to pay for QWord though) OK what is a Dreambox? This the free satellite thing? If Bill's Sky box is over a year old he can keep it and still watch the free to air and free to view satellite channels (just hang on to your viewing card) We have freeview for digital tv through your aerial - only about 40 for a box for that. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QWord payment
of these offshore Channel Islands back to the mainland, Now that is funny ;-) Channel Islands are offshore but the British Isles are MainLand :-) hehehe Sounds stupid, now you mention it. Mind you, Irish travellers passing through Anglesey from Holyhead asking how to get to London are told to go to the mainland and ask there ;-) Something to do with Anglesey being Anglesey I think...is it REALLY part of Wales/Britain??? Seriously now it has to do with their Tax shelter status ;-) All to bring businesses in ;-) Cyprus was doing something similar but AFAIK cannot anymore Ah yes. Forgot about the tax status. I'm not even sure if they're in the E.U. now you mention it. The tax status is no doubt why companies like Tesco do a 'Jersey CD Store' to offer CDs DVDs at lower prices than on the British mainland. -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] QWord payment
Mon, 03 Jan 2005 23:07:04 -,() Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:59:15 -0500, Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:49:46 -,() Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: With all that lot Bill, you probably don't have time for Sky !! Cancel it and get QWord instead - its much more entertaining or get both QWord and a Dreambox and watch Sky for free ;-) (Sorry you still have to pay for QWord though) OK what is a Dreambox? This the free satellite thing? Nope not at least the way it was intended. Dreambox is a German Satellite Receiver that runs Linux and allows most subscription card types including Irtedo 2. However a bunch of nice guys have upgraded it in such a way that not only it becomes a nice Media Hub for the whole house, it plays games, records, runs Samba (to spite Tony ;-) ) and cracks 99% of the satellite signal codes to boot :-) The funny thing is that it will look online find the crack code and download it automagically... I hear that in many places that practice is legal for over the air signals (including satellite). Of course it is illegal for cable :-) If Bill's Sky box is over a year old he can keep it and still watch the free to air and free to view satellite channels (just hang on to your viewing card) Hehe crack the code... crack the code (IF it's legal ;-) hehehehe) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QWord payment
- Original Message - From: Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo cut If available at the QL metting in Eindhoven (March?),I will buy it, together with QWORD( Dutch and French versions). Happy New Year to all of you. Why wait?? I shall not be able to attend Eidnhoven and so will have to rely on someone else to take stock (Geoff)? They might have sold out you never know !! It is not always easy to transfer funds from one country to another, especially if you don't have the right bit of plastic. The traders are also unlikely to be in Eindhoven before 18th June. If it helps, I can accept payment via my Dutch Postbank Giro account. This may be a way of avoiding high currency transfer charges. I'm sure Rich and I could reach some agreement over this. Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:13:53 -, gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is not always easy to transfer funds from one country to another, especially if you don't have the right bit of plastic. The traders are also unlikely to be in Eindhoven before 18th June. If it helps, I can accept payment via my Dutch Postbank Giro account. This may be a way of avoiding high currency transfer charges. I'm sure Rich and I could reach some agreement over this. That sounds good Geoff and is ok with me :-) -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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gwicks wrote: snip It is not always easy to transfer funds from one country to another, especially if you don't have the right bit of plastic. You're quite right. I have had some unpleasant surprises (not due to traders or suppliers) from my own bank. The equivalent of 15 euros disappeared in thin air and as the enquiry isn't closed yet, I prefer not to transfer money abroad. Franois Van Emelen The traders are also unlikely to be in Eindhoven before 18th June. If it helps, I can accept payment via my Dutch Postbank Giro account. This may be a way of avoiding high currency transfer charges. I'm sure Rich and I could reach some agreement over this. Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 00:18:31 +0100, Franois Van Emelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gwicks wrote: snip It is not always easy to transfer funds from one country to another, especially if you don't have the right bit of plastic. You're quite right. I have had some unpleasant surprises (not due to traders or suppliers) from my own bank. The equivalent of 15 euros disappeared in thin air and as the enquiry isn't closed yet, I prefer not to transfer money abroad. Trouble is that banks charge money to transfer money abroad and to receive it (UK banks charge around 25 to accept a foreign payment !!) That is why PayPal is so good - only your credit card to think about and no extra charges really. The traders are also unlikely to be in Eindhoven before 18th June. If it helps, I can accept payment via my Dutch Postbank Giro account. This may be a way of avoiding high currency transfer charges. I'm sure Rich and I could reach some agreement over this. Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] QWord Trial version
I have just downloaded the trial version of QWord from Rich Mellors web site : http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk/QWord.html As well as the Manual by Geoff Wicks as an HTML file. Both are zip files that unzip on a PC. As most users on this list have a PC for internet access I would recommend that you try this new software. Everything installs under PC Windows as QWord includes a Demo versin of QPC2 thanks to Marcel Kilgus. This then takes over as an emulator to run the software. All of which installs itself with ease. Well done to the team involved. I guess this should get itself put on those free CD's that PC magazines are always promoting ... some PC users will be in for a bit of a shock :-) -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 23:29:09 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both are zip files that unzip on a PC. As most users on this list have a PC for internet access I would recommend that you try this new software. Everything installs under PC Windows as QWord includes a Demo versin of QPC2 thanks to Marcel Kilgus. This then takes over as an emulator to run the software. All of which installs itself with ease. Well done to the team involved. I guess this should get itself put on those free CD's that PC magazines are always promoting ... some PC users will be in for a bit of a shock Excellent demo. I can see I will like this game There was sound at Byfleet which caused much amusement. Nothing though on this demo. Thankyou so much for your encouraging comments... The sound is not included on the demo as it would make the whole download a lot bigger (plus I am stuck on dialup at the moment and so do not fancy uploading too large a file !!) Watch out for some news soon... -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] QWord
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Byfleet Show (Q-Word) Is the game itself any good? Or is it just a brilliant showcase of colour and sound? Dilwyn Jones If the Demo version is anything to go by,(without the high colours and sound) it's very addictive. Be prepared to spend a few hours. John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
