Re: Limit email file seize for some users

[Steffan Hoeke]

On Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 09:47:45AM +0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi 
> 
> I would like to limit some of my users to file seizes not above 1 MB
> 
> How do I implement that.

man qmail-smtpd:
   databytes
Maximum  number  of  bytes allowed in a message, or 0
for no limit.  Default: 0.  If a message exceeds this
limit,  qmail-smtpd returns a permanent error code to
the client; in contrast,  if  the  disk  is  full  or
qmail-smtpd   hits   a  resource  limit,  qmail-smtpd
returns a temporary error code.

databytes counts bytes as  stored  on  disk,  not  as
transmitted  through  the network.  It does not count
the  qmail-smtpd  Received  line,   the   qmail-queue
Received line, or the envelope.

If  the  environment  variable  DATABYTES  is set, it
overrides databytes.

AFAIK there's no easy way to implement a per-user basis.
Or you'd have to try to experiment with setting DATABYTES in tcprules/
tcpserver.
databytes should be in /var/qmail/control 
 
> Thanks 
> Jacob
HTH,
 Steffan
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Limit email file seize for some users

[qmail]

Hi 

I would like to limit some of my users to file seizes not above 1 MB

How do I implement that.

Thanks 
Jacob

Re: The most secure POP server

[asantos]

From: Brett Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>I was thinking of suggesting that one but it isn't very secure...
>

Ah, these guys can't take a joke :)

However, again we find ourselves with the language problem. When Roberto
Samarone Araujo says "secure", possibly he is associating the word "secure"
in a diferent context from English. In fact, the Portuguese word "seguro"
has a meaning more related to "stable" than to "secure". In Spanish, I think
"seguro" means "sure". Quite different, isn't it?

So, Roberto, I suggest that you take Adam McKenna suggestion and use
qmail-pop3d. I'm not so sure about vpopmail, tough: depending on your
installation, possibly the added complexity of vpopmail will result in less
"estabilidade" e "segurança" that a straight qmail install.

Armando

RE: The most secure POP server

[Brett Randall]

> Nice cover.  So when you said "I was thinking of suggesting THAT
> ONE but IT
> isn't very secure", you were actually talking about the POP3
> protocol and not
> qmail-pop3d specifically?  If that's the case then why did you
> reply at all,
> and in such an ambiguous way?  You certainly didn't answer the poster's
> question.

Well yeah, but I wanted to see what would come of it. SSL I have never used
and it never came to mind until someone mentioned it. I was just making a
statement in general about standard use of qmail-pop3d.

Anyway, thanks for clarification :>

Brett

Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/ 

Re: The most secure POP server

[Mark Mentovai]

Brian D. Winters wrote:
>It works exactly the same as SSL and IMAP.  You can encapsulate any
>TCP connection in an SSL tunnel.  This includes IMAP, POP3, telnet, or
>even ssh or another SSL session, although the last two are pretty
>pointless.
>
>Some servers have built in support for SSL, or you can tack it on
>yourself.  I use a program called sslwrap in conjuction with
>qmail-pop3.  I believe another freely available program is called
>stunnel(?).  When proxying like this typically you restrict
>connections to port 110 to localhost, and then sslwrap (or whatever)
>proxies between an open port 995 (the port assigned for pop3s) and the
>protected port 110.

This is no longer the preferred way to do it, see RFC 2595 (not yet a
standard, but it's on its way).  This RFC defines a STLS POP3 command which
initiates TLS (essentially a new and fancy name for SSL, TLSv1 is almost
identical to SSLv3) communication.  A similar command (STARTTLS) is defined
for IMAP.  The definition for accomplishing the same thing over SMTP (using
the STARTTLS command) is provided in RFC 2487.

qmail can be made to support TLS in accordance with RFC 2487 by applying a
patch at http://www.esat.kuleuven.ac.be/~vermeule/qmail/tls.patch .  To my
knowledge, at this time, no such patch can be applied to add RFC 2595
support to qmail-pop3d.  Such a project would be harder to accomplish
because of the more modular nature of qmail-pop3d: qmail-popup and
qmail-pop3d both interact with the client over the network.  This is
something I've been thinking about, and if I ever get a chance, something
I'd like to try to attack.

Mark

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Mark Mentovai
UNIX Engineer
Gillette Global Network

Re: The most secure POP server

[Adam McKenna]

On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 10:58:17PM -0300, Roberto Samarone Araújo (RSA) wrote:
> Hi ,
> 
>  I'm installing the Qmail so , I would like to know the most secure POP
> server to install and that doesn't have problems with Maildir .
> 
>   Roberto Samarone Araujo

Robert,

Your best bet is qmail-pop3d+vpopmail which will enable you to give your
customers pop3 accounts without actually giving them accounts on your UNIX
system.  If the passwords and mail are passing over the internet, you could
wrap the pop3 service with sslwrap or stunnel, two popular packages which
will wrap any service with SSL.

--Adam

Re: The most secure POP server

[Adam McKenna]

On Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 01:23:20PM +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
> Ok, here's the deal:
> 
> qmail-pop3d is NOT secure, nor are most other standard POP3 daemons. POP
> passwords are sent in cleartext and are not encrypted. They can be viewed by
> people snooping a connection (although this is not as easy as it sounds). A
> way of fixing this insecurity is to use SSL, an option many POP3 clients
> (including most Microsoft ones, and Netscape, AFAIK) offer (in Advanced
> options usually). They perform the POP3 operations over the Secure Socket
> Layer (that is SSL), however this requires quite some config which I
> personally have never done before, but I have heard of people doing it.

Nice cover.  So when you said "I was thinking of suggesting THAT ONE but IT
isn't very secure", you were actually talking about the POP3 protocol and not
qmail-pop3d specifically?  If that's the case then why did you reply at all,
and in such an ambiguous way?  You certainly didn't answer the poster's
question.

--Adam

Re: The most secure POP server

[Brian D. Winters]

On Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 02:56:18AM +, amir wrote:
> How do you plan on using SSL with POP? I know that SSL and IMAP work nicely 
>together, but SSL and POP, never heard about that... maybe some SSL proxying 
>techniques???

It works exactly the same as SSL and IMAP.  You can encapsulate any
TCP connection in an SSL tunnel.  This includes IMAP, POP3, telnet, or
even ssh or another SSL session, although the last two are pretty
pointless.

Some servers have built in support for SSL, or you can tack it on
yourself.  I use a program called sslwrap in conjuction with
qmail-pop3.  I believe another freely available program is called
stunnel(?).  When proxying like this typically you restrict
connections to port 110 to localhost, and then sslwrap (or whatever)
proxies between an open port 995 (the port assigned for pop3s) and the
protected port 110.

Brian

RE: The most secure POP server

[Brett Randall]

Ok, here's the deal:
qmail-pop3d is NOT secure, nor are most other standard POP3 daemons. POP 
passwords are sent in cleartext and are not encrypted. They can be viewed by 
people snooping a connection (although this is not as easy as it sounds). A way 
of fixing this insecurity is to use SSL, an option many POP3 clients (including 
most Microsoft ones, and Netscape, AFAIK) offer (in Advanced options usually). 
They perform the POP3 operations over the Secure Socket Layer (that is SSL), 
however this requires quite some config which I personally have never done 
before, but I have heard of people doing it.
Look into it
Brett
ManagerInterPlanetary 
Solutionshttp://ipsware.com/
 

Re: The most secure POP server

[Adam McKenna]

On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 08:34:18PM -0600, Irwan Hadi wrote:
> At 11:59 AM 7/2/00 +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
> > > >  I'm installing the Qmail so , I would like to know the
> > > most secure POP
> > > >server to install and that doesn't have problems with Maildir .
> > >
> > > how' bout qmail-pop3d ?
> >
> >I was thinking of suggesting that one but it isn't very secure...
> 
> can you give the explanation why qmail-pop3d is not secure ?
> Should then we combined SSL with POP ? to make it more secure ?

The poster said that qmail-pop3d is insecure, not the POP3 protocol.

I, for one, would like to see him elucidate or defend his statement.

--Adam

RE: The most secure POP server

[Dave Granath]

I thought that qmail-pop3d still passed it's passwords in the
clear??? If it does and the server is not inside a firewall
anyone outside could snoop your connection requests etc...

Irwan Hadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>At 11:59 AM 7/2/00 +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
>> > >  I'm installing the Qmail so , I would like to know the
>> > most secure POP
>> > >server to install and that doesn't have problems with Maildir .
>> >
>> > how' bout qmail-pop3d ?
>>
>>I was thinking of suggesting that one but it isn't very secure...
>
>can you give the explanation why qmail-pop3d is not secure ?
>Should then we combined SSL with POP ? to make it more secure ?

I think he meant that passwords will be sent in cleartext over the network
w/o encryption. This is actually a problem with the POP protocol. But,
qmail-pop3d is secure.

How do you plan on using SSL with POP? I know that SSL and IMAP work nicely
together, but SSL and POP, never heard about that... maybe some SSL proxying
techniques???

Amir




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RE: The most secure POP server

[amir]

Irwan Hadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>At 11:59 AM 7/2/00 +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
>> > >  I'm installing the Qmail so , I would like to know the
>> > most secure POP
>> > >server to install and that doesn't have problems with Maildir .
>> >
>> > how' bout qmail-pop3d ?
>>
>>I was thinking of suggesting that one but it isn't very secure...
>
>can you give the explanation why qmail-pop3d is not secure ?
>Should then we combined SSL with POP ? to make it more secure ?

I think he meant that passwords will be sent in cleartext over the network w/o 
encryption. This is actually a problem with the POP protocol. But, qmail-pop3d is 
secure.

How do you plan on using SSL with POP? I know that SSL and IMAP work nicely together, 
but SSL and POP, never heard about that... maybe some SSL proxying techniques???

Amir




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RE: The most secure POP server

[Irwan Hadi]

At 11:59 AM 7/2/00 +1000, Brett Randall wrote:
> > >  I'm installing the Qmail so , I would like to know the
> > most secure POP
> > >server to install and that doesn't have problems with Maildir .
> >
> > how' bout qmail-pop3d ?
>
>I was thinking of suggesting that one but it isn't very secure...

can you give the explanation why qmail-pop3d is not secure ?
Should then we combined SSL with POP ? to make it more secure ?

RE: The most secure POP server

[Brett Randall]

> > I'm installing the Qmail so , I would like to 
know the 
> most secure POP
> >server to install and that doesn't have problems 
with Maildir .
> 
> how' bout qmail-pop3d ?
I was thinking of suggesting that one but it isn't very 
secure...
Brett
ManagerInterPlanetary 
Solutionshttp://ipsware.com/
 

Re: The most secure POP server

[Irwan Hadi]

At 10:58 PM 7/1/00 -0300, RSA wrote:
>Hi ,
>
>  I'm installing the Qmail so , I would like to know the most secure POP
>server to install and that doesn't have problems with Maildir .

how' bout qmail-pop3d ?

The most secure POP server

[Roberto Samarone Araújo (RSA)]

Hi ,

 I'm installing the Qmail so , I would like to know the most secure POP
server to install and that doesn't have problems with Maildir .

  Roberto Samarone Araujo

Dot-forward did not work suddenly

[Edward Tsang]

Hi there,
 
I just migrated from sendmail to qmail. We are 
using qmail 1.03 and vchkpw from inter7. Before migration, the dot-forward can 
successfully read those .forward file and forward mail properly.
 
However, now the dot-forward will not process those 
.forward anymore. 
 
If I use .qmail in user home directory, it will 
become message loop. Qmail keep inject message into user home 
account.
 
Following is my rc for qmail
 
#!/bin/sh
 
exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" 
\qmail-start '|dot-forward .forward./Maildir/'
 
Anyone can give me some advice?
 
On the other hand, did dot qmail support following 
usage?
 
.qmail in user a directory
 
/home/usera/Maildir/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
I tried to use above syntax, however, qmail always 
append the host domain and making the delivery unsuccessful.
 
Example: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Regards,
Edward.
 

Emend LWQ? was Re: Can't find my log file

[Lou Hevly]

At 18:42 01/07/00 +0200, Steffan Hoeke wrote:
>On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 12:12:26PM +0100, Lou Hevly wrote:

>> Sorry to ask so basic a question, but after installing qmail successfully
>> following LWQ, I'm unable to find my log file. `ps` shows that multilog is >> being 
>invoked...


>"All of qmail-send's activity is logged in /var/log/qmail/current"

Yes indeed. Thank you very much.

Still, the excellent LWQ *does* say:

"The log directory is specified on the multilog command line, so you
can find it by examining your qmail startup script."

Unless I'm misinterpreting the meaning of 'log directory',
/var/log/qmail/ isn't mentioned anywhere in the startup script
suggested in LWQ. And because many questions are asked on this
list by those who haven't bothered to check their log files,
might I, humble beginner though I be, suggest that LWQ be emended
with Steffan Hoeke's answer to me (quoted above)?

-- 
All the best (Adéu-siau),
Lou Hevly
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.visca.com

URGENT!!! HELP!!! HP-UX fault

[Kvazimodo]

Hello ppl!

I have
HP-UX web1 B.11.00 U 9000/800 610339382 unlimited-user license

my qmail start script runs Ok, but qmail stops. When I restart qmail deamon
manualy it keeps runing.

here is what I run:
#!/sbin/sh
#
# /etc/rc*.d/S**qmail - Start/Stop the qmail daemon
#

PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/var/qmail/bin:/var/qmail/conf:$PATH

case $1 in
"start")
#   csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc &' && echo -n ' qmail'
csh -cf '/var/qmail/bin/qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger qmail &' &&
echo -n ' qmail'
sleep 10
;;
"stop")
pid=`/usr/bin/ps -e | /usr/bin/grep qmail-send | /usr/bin/sed -e
's/^  *//' -e 's/ .*//'`
if test "$pid"
then
kill $pid
fi
;;
"start_msg")
echo "Starting qmail"
;;
"stop_msg")
echo "Stopping qmail"
;;
*)
echo "usage: /sbin/init.d/qmail {start|stop}"
;;
esac


Any ideas?



Regards,
Eldar Imangulov
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
http://www.netcity.ru/

Re: very slow delivery

[Magnus Bodin]

On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 05:09:47PM +0200, Mirko Koenig wrote:

> now the delivery and sending of messages takes 20 min.
> i write a message eg. in pine send it and then have to wait up to 20 min
> till its delivered.

check the permissions of "/var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger"

# ls -l /var/qmail/queue/lock/   
total 1
-rw---   1 qmails   qmail   0 Mar  2  1999 sendmutex
-rw-r--r--   1 qmailr   qmail1024 Jul  1 19:58 tcpto
prw--w--w-   1 qmails   qmail   0 Jul  1 20:58 trigger
^^

If it doesn't is "prw--w--w-", then do a "make setup" from the qmail source
library again. 

/magnus

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Unable to fork (WAS Help! :( )

[Andy Coates]

> > > > > On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 02:49:35PM +0100, Andy Coates wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> [Snipped another bit]
> > > > > I'm also a bit curious why there's a & in your rc file 
> > > >
> > > > The & is what was in the /var/qmail/boot example files, I used
> > > > /var/qmail/boot/maildir for my RC.
> > > Ok, i'm just getting used to running qmail supervised, so i forgot :-0
> > >
> > > > As for the logs, nothing. (a little odd again).
> > > Nothing, as in there's no entries in the log, or
> > > Nothing, as in there's nothing of interest in the log ?
> >
> > Nothing as in there's no entries (i'm looking in /var/log/messages,
which is
> > hopefully the right place).

> Ehhm, when i used splogger it was /var/log/maillog .

DOH!!! (I hate it when that happens..)

Looking at the RIGHT log reveals:
Jul  1 18:40:26 wolverine qmail: 962473226.726133 status: local 1/10 remote
0/20
Jul  1 18:40:26 wolverine qmail: 962473226.731877 delivery 69: deferral:
Unable_to_fork:_temporary_failure._(#
4.3.0)/

Now why is it saying that... any more ideas?

Thanks,
Andy.

Re: Help! :(

[Steffan Hoeke]

On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 06:27:26PM +0100, Andy Coates wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Steffan Hoeke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 5:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Help! :(
> 
> 
> > On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 05:35:26PM +0100, Andy Coates wrote:
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Steffan Hoeke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 5:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Help! :(
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 02:49:35PM +0100, Andy Coates wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
[Snipped another bit]
> > > > I'm also a bit curious why there's a & in your rc file 
> > >
> > > The & is what was in the /var/qmail/boot example files, I used
> > > /var/qmail/boot/maildir for my RC.
> > Ok, i'm just getting used to running qmail supervised, so i forgot :-0
> >
> > > As for the logs, nothing. (a little odd again).
> > Nothing, as in there's no entries in the log, or
> > Nothing, as in there's nothing of interest in the log ?
> 
> Nothing as in there's no entries (i'm looking in /var/log/messages, which is
> hopefully the right place).
Ehhm, when i used splogger it was /var/log/maillog .
 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Andy.
> 

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Re: Help! :(

[Andy Coates]

- Original Message -
From: "Steffan Hoeke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: Help! :(


> On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 05:35:26PM +0100, Andy Coates wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Steffan Hoeke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 5:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: Help! :(
> >
> >
> > > On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 02:49:35PM +0100, Andy Coates wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I've been playing with dot-forward, and now my whole qmail system
> > > > doesn't
> > > > want to deliver messages. I don't know if they're related, or
whether
> > > > something else is wrong - but no one is getting any mail!?!?
> [snipped]
> > > > At least messages aren't being lost, but I need to get the mail out
to
> > > > my users :-(
> > > >
> > > > TIA,
> > > > Andy.
> > > What do the logs say? (tm)
> > >
> > > I'm also a bit curious why there's a & in your rc file 
> >
> > The & is what was in the /var/qmail/boot example files, I used
> > /var/qmail/boot/maildir for my RC.
> Ok, i'm just getting used to running qmail supervised, so i forgot :-0
>
> > As for the logs, nothing. (a little odd again).
> Nothing, as in there's no entries in the log, or
> Nothing, as in there's nothing of interest in the log ?

Nothing as in there's no entries (i'm looking in /var/log/messages, which is
hopefully the right place).

Any ideas?

Andy.

[ira@scso.com: Re: digest version?]

[Steffan Hoeke]

By request ...

- Forwarded message from Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 20:16:54 +0300 (IDT)
From: Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Steffan Hoeke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: digest version?

On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Steffan Hoeke wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 08:12:31PM +0300, Ira Abramov wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 05:54:18PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Is there a digest version of this mailing list?
> > > Nope, sorry 
> > > Since it's a veryhigh volume list IMHO it wouldn't be advisable
> >
> > I read it on digest. subscribe on egroups.com/group/djb-qmail
> Hmmm. I thought [EMAIL PROTECTED] was the only source .


nope, but apperently I can't post since I'm not subscribed directly to
dan's machine. plese forward the URL to the main list, thanks!

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Re: Help! :(

[Steffan Hoeke]

On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 05:35:26PM +0100, Andy Coates wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Steffan Hoeke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 5:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Help! :(
> 
> 
> > On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 02:49:35PM +0100, Andy Coates wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've been playing with dot-forward, and now my whole qmail system
> > > doesn't
> > > want to deliver messages. I don't know if they're related, or whether
> > > something else is wrong - but no one is getting any mail!?!?
[snipped]
> > > At least messages aren't being lost, but I need to get the mail out to
> > > my users :-(
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > > Andy.
> > What do the logs say? (tm)
> >
> > I'm also a bit curious why there's a & in your rc file 
> 
> The & is what was in the /var/qmail/boot example files, I used
> /var/qmail/boot/maildir for my RC.
Ok, i'm just getting used to running qmail supervised, so i forgot :-0

> As for the logs, nothing. (a little odd again).
Nothing, as in there's no entries in the log, or
Nothing, as in there's nothing of interest in the log ? 

> Andy.

Steffan
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Re: Can't find my log file

[Steffan Hoeke]

On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 12:12:26PM +0100, Lou Hevly wrote:
> Greetings:
> 
> Sorry to ask so basic a question, but after installing qmail successfully following 
>LWQ, I'm unable to find my log file. `ps` shows that multilog is being invoked:
> 
> qmaill 541  0.0  1.1  1092   356  ?  S14:42   0:00 /usr/local/bin/multilog t 
>/var/log/qmail
All of qmail-send's activity is logged in /var/log/qmail/current

> qmaill 542  0.0  1.0  1084   328  ?  S14:42   0:00 /usr/local/bin/multilog t 
>/var/log/qmail/smtpd
All of qmail-smptd's activity is logged in /var/log/qmail/smptd/current

> The doc says:
> 
> "The log directory is specified on the multilog command line, so you can find it by 
>examining your qmail startup script."
i.e. the /var/log/qmail and /var/log/qmail/smtpd directories 
 
> I used the startup script from LWQ, but I don`t see where it tells me where the log 
>directory is.
See above ;-)

> Thanks.
> Lou Hevly
HTH,
 Steffan
BTW: please set the margins to 80 chars, makes replying easier .
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Re: Help! :(

[Andy Coates]

- Original Message -
From: "Steffan Hoeke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: Help! :(


> On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 02:49:35PM +0100, Andy Coates wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been playing with dot-forward, and now my whole qmail system
doesn't
> > want to deliver messages. I don't know if they're related, or whether
> > something else is wrong - but no one is getting any mail!?!?
> >
> > Basically I installed the dot-forward package and set this at my
> > /var/qmail/rc:
> >
> > exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
> > qmail-start '|dot-forward .forward
> > ./Maildir/' splogger qmail &
> >
> > But that didn't work, so I thought i'd set it back to normal whilst I
look
> > into the matter, so my rc is now:
> > exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
> > qmail-start ./Maildir/ splogger qmail &
> >
> > Thing is, mail is being received, but not delivered. qmail-qstat shows:
> > messages in queue: 6
> > messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0
> >
> > And qmail is running again after I stopped it. Any ideas what I've done
to
> > stop it working?
> >
> > At least messages aren't being lost, but I need to get the mail out to
my
> > users :-(
> >
> > TIA,
> > Andy.
> What do the logs say? (tm)
>
> I'm also a bit curious why there's a & in your rc file 

The & is what was in the /var/qmail/boot example files, I used
/var/qmail/boot/maildir for my RC.

As for the logs, nothing. (a little odd again).

Andy.

Re: Help! :(

[Steffan Hoeke]

On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 02:49:35PM +0100, Andy Coates wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've been playing with dot-forward, and now my whole qmail system doesn't
> want to deliver messages. I don't know if they're related, or whether
> something else is wrong - but no one is getting any mail!?!?
> 
> Basically I installed the dot-forward package and set this at my
> /var/qmail/rc:
> 
> exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
> qmail-start '|dot-forward .forward
> ./Maildir/' splogger qmail &
> 
> But that didn't work, so I thought i'd set it back to normal whilst I look
> into the matter, so my rc is now:
> exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
> qmail-start ./Maildir/ splogger qmail &
> 
> Thing is, mail is being received, but not delivered. qmail-qstat shows:
> messages in queue: 6
> messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0
> 
> And qmail is running again after I stopped it. Any ideas what I've done to
> stop it working?
> 
> At least messages aren't being lost, but I need to get the mail out to my
> users :-(
> 
> TIA,
> Andy.
What do the logs say? (tm) 

I'm also a bit curious why there's a & in your rc file 

Greetz,
 Steffan
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http://therookie.dyndns.org

Re: qmailq problem

[Steffan Hoeke]

On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 06:10:38PM +0200, clemensF wrote:
> > Ben Beuchler:
> 
> > And is there a particular reason so many people neglect to look at their
> > logs when trying to research a problem?
[snipped a bit] 
> number.  then there's definitly the need to make sense of the long-term
> queue-id of the delivery messages and the status line at the end (1_0_0).
> i'd like to see it at a prominent place in the INSTALL files, maybe.

What *does* the last number in 
@4000395b7d5233ba0ecc delivery 123: success: did_1+0+0/
stand for ?

The first number is a local delivery
The second number is a remote delivery
The third number is .. ?

> clemens
TIA,
 Steffan
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http://therookie.dyndns.org

Re: qmailq problem

[clemensF]

> Ben Beuchler:

> And is there a particular reason so many people neglect to look at their
> logs when trying to research a problem?

good question, actually.  the loggs give very good and simple diagnostics,
it must have something to do with the way information is identified.
we have the time stamps, which have to be converted by tai64nlocal in order
for people to see that they indicate *current* trouble.  i have noticed
people setting unreasonably large values for the log sizes and their
number.  then there's definitly the need to make sense of the long-term
queue-id of the delivery messages and the status line at the end (1_0_0).
i'd like to see it at a prominent place in the INSTALL files, maybe.

clemens

very slow delivery

[Mirko Koenig]

hi

i'm running qmail and first there were no problems.
but after a while qmail is getting very slow.
now the delivery and sending of messages takes 20 min.
i write a message eg. in pine send it and then have to wait up to 20 min
till its delivered.
if i recieve mail with fetchmail it takes also up to 20 min the mail is
deliverd to local.
i've no network. only a standalone pc. even mail to myself takes up to 20
min.

i didn't change anything in my opinion. the error accours suddenly ;-) ok
i think i must have changed something but i don't know what.

the mails are getting in the queue and are preprocessed correctly, but
then it takes up to 20min they are delivered.

i will be very happy if you could help me.

mirko

home : http://stud.fbi.fh-darmstadt.de/~koenig

Re: two questions

[clemensF]

> Clifford Thurber:

> #!/bin/sh
> exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog t /var/log/qmail

exec setuidgid qmaill multilog t !tai64nlocal /var/log/qmail

...would make multilog pipe safe loggs (loggs that were safely closed) through
tai64nlocal automatically, so that these loggs contain "standard" timestamps.


clemens

Re: qmail-ldap file permissions

[clemensF]

> prashant:

> can some one tell me what file permissions are required
> for
> 1>  ~Home/Maildir
> 2>Maildir
> 3> cur
> 4> new
> 5> tmp

700.  the 'x' bit lets programs search a directory.

clemens

Re: virtual user

[Juan E Suris]

>
> i have a virtual domain barkada.com in my qmail machine. then i want to
> make a virtual user with that domain. there is a user kaibigan but i did
> not activate nery as a user in the machine. but i want it like this if
> somebody send to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  the email will automatically send to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> i add barkada.com in my rcpthosts
>
> then in the virtualdomain i add
>
> barkada.com:nery
>
> and in my kaibigan/.qmail file i added also
>
> &[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> then when i tried to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] i got this error.
>
> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at qmail.pinoyswapcentral.com.
> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)
>
> --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
>
> what is my mistake here?
>
> in sendmail i can do this in my /etc/virtusertable file as
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> thanks!
>

your virtualdomain entry should look like this:
barkada.com:kaibigan

and in ~kaibigan/.qmail-nery:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and you also need ~kaibigan/.qmail-kaibigan,
which contains the desired delivery for [EMAIL PROTECTED]

JES

Help! :(

[Andy Coates]

Hi,

I've been playing with dot-forward, and now my whole qmail system doesn't
want to deliver messages. I don't know if they're related, or whether
something else is wrong - but no one is getting any mail!?!?

Basically I installed the dot-forward package and set this at my
/var/qmail/rc:

exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
qmail-start '|dot-forward .forward
./Maildir/' splogger qmail &

But that didn't work, so I thought i'd set it back to normal whilst I look
into the matter, so my rc is now:
exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
qmail-start ./Maildir/ splogger qmail &

Thing is, mail is being received, but not delivered. qmail-qstat shows:
messages in queue: 6
messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0

And qmail is running again after I stopped it. Any ideas what I've done to
stop it working?

At least messages aren't being lost, but I need to get the mail out to my
users :-(

TIA,
Andy.

Bounce questions

[Ian Layton]

Thank you for all the comments I received about my previous question.

I am now needing to make a program that will analyses bounced messages from
Qmail and be able to distinguish between hard (permanent bounces) and soft
(temporary) bounces. Is there any standard out there on how to recognize the
difference. Also, I would like this program to execute upon delivery of a
bounce message. I believe it's possible but I'm not sure how.

Thank you

Ian

Can't find my log file

[Lou Hevly]

Greetings:

Sorry to ask so basic a question, but after installing qmail successfully following 
LWQ, I'm unable to find my log file. `ps` shows that multilog is being invoked:

qmaill 541  0.0  1.1  1092   356  ?  S14:42   0:00 /usr/local/bin/multilog t 
/var/log/qmail
qmaill 542  0.0  1.0  1084   328  ?  S14:42   0:00 /usr/local/bin/multilog t 
/var/log/qmail/smtpd

In these two directories (/var/log/qmail and /var/log/qmail/smtpd) I can find no log 
files. I also looked in /var/qmail/supervise/ and /var/qmail/supervise/*/log

The doc says:

"The log directory is specified on the multilog command line, so you can find it by 
examining your qmail startup script."

I used the startup script from LWQ, but I don`t see where it tells me where the log 
directory is.

I'm running on Linux 2.0.36.

Thanks.

-- 
All the best (Adéu-siau),
Lou Hevly
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.visca.com

qmail Digest 1 Jul 2000 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 1049

[qmail-digest-help]

qmail Digest 1 Jul 2000 10:00:00 - Issue 1049

Topics (messages 43952 through 43999):

too many files
43952 by: Kimberly Vher
43984 by: Dave Sill

Re: sending mail outside local domain
43953 by: Andrew Richards

Re: delivery
43954 by: Andrew Richards

clean all mail in mail queue
43955 by: Edward Tsang
43967 by: Russell Nelson
43974 by: Ben Beuchler
43975 by: Edward Tsang

Change hostname & IP Address
43956 by: Iman Budi Setiawan
43983 by: Dave Sill

Problems writing to Mailbox
43957 by: Antonino Bascone
43961 by: Johan Almqvist

desperately looking for solution to this virtual domain problem
43958 by: reach_prashant.zeenext.com
43959 by: reach_prashant.zeenext.com
43971 by: Jason Murphy

Re: Qmail performance question...
43960 by: Ken Jones

Re: Building very large Qmail instalations...
43962 by: Andrew Richards
43998 by: Greg Cope

qmailq problem
43963 by: °í¿µÈÆ
43982 by: Dave Sill
43988 by: Ben Beuchler

IMP with qmail-inject / qmail-pop3d
43964 by: Antonio S. Martins Jr.

/VAR/SPOOL/MAIL
43965 by: Giuliano Cocchi
43981 by: Dave Sill

Softlimit Error
43966 by: Eddie Greer
43979 by: Rogue Eagle

Re: Hotmail 554 transaction failed
43968 by: James R Grinter

multilog
43969 by: Susan LB
43970 by: asantos
43972 by: Susan Burgee

Making servers tell bytes send/recieved
43973 by: Johan Almqvist

digest version?
43976 by: brandon.discontent.com
43978 by: Steffan Hoeke

fork:cannot allocate memory
43977 by: Luis Bezerra
43980 by: Dave Sill

Re: Sorry newbie question
43985 by: Dave Sill

subscribe qmail
43986 by: Guillermo Villasana Cardoza

Re: Multilog: fatal: the final answer (hopefully)
43987 by: Dave Sill

Re: Queue Problems
43989 by: Dave Sill

ETRN and m$-exchange
43990 by: Alexander Jernejcic
43991 by: Alexander Jernejcic

Re: fastforward, redirection and truncating messages
43992 by: Giles Lean

Newbie question
43993 by: Chad Cranston
43994 by: Giles Lean
43996 by: Chad Cranston
43997 by: Steffan Hoeke

qmail-qread
43995 by: TD

virtual user
43999 by: Kimberly Vher

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hi,

im almost finished thanks to all of you guys, but 
i noticed that if im using ./Maildir/ qmail creat one file for all the
incoming mail meaning one mail one file. if i have so many users then many
incoming mail for every users meaning i have so many many files in my
system in their home directory right? do i need to worry in filehandle error? 

anyone give me a suggestion to adjust the filehandle in linux?

thanks again






Kimberly Vher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>im almost finished thanks to all of you guys, but 
>i noticed that if im using ./Maildir/ qmail creat one file for all the
>incoming mail meaning one mail one file. if i have so many users then many
>incoming mail for every users meaning i have so many many files in my
>system in their home directory right? do i need to worry in filehandle error? 

Filehandles are only used on open files, so no, you don't have to
worry about them with Maildirs. Inodes, on the other hand, are used by 
all files on disk. If you run out of inodes, you can't create more
files--even if the disk has lots of free space. THe only was you can
add inodes is by backing up the filesystem, re-newfs/mkfs'ing it with
more space for inodes, and restoring from the backup.

-Dave




John,

Does the domain tester.samhill.com exist in the DNS? - and
is there a PTR record for the IP address of your sending mail
server?

It sounds like the remote machine is checking for one of the
above, and is alarmed that it can't determine who's sending
mail, probably as part of spam or relaying protection - I suspect
you can mail to other less 'Strict' external mail servers...

cheers,

Andrew.

--
From:   John Steniger[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   29 June 2000 21:35
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:sending mail outside local domain

I've recently set up qmail 1.03 on an OpenBSD 2.6 system.  I can send and
receive e-mail locally, but when sending out to the internet I get the
following error:

Connected to 198.23.2.45 but sender was rejected.
Remote host said: 501 <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> ... Sender domain must
exist

I have no MX record for tester, as it isn't the default mail server for the
domain (using it for testing).  
Any idea how to fix this?  Would a second MX record at lower priori

virtual user

[Kimberly Vher]

i have a virtual domain barkada.com in my qmail machine. then i want to
make a virtual user with that domain. there is a user kaibigan but i did
not activate nery as a user in the machine. but i want it like this if
somebody send to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  the email will automatically send to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

i add barkada.com in my rcpthosts

then in the virtualdomain i add

barkada.com:nery 

and in my kaibigan/.qmail file i added also

&[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

then when i tried to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] i got this error.

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at qmail.pinoyswapcentral.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

what is my mistake here?

in sendmail i can do this in my /etc/virtusertable file as

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

thanks!

Re: Building very large Qmail instalations...

[Greg Cope]

Brett Randall wrote:
> 
> Well...I have a little 2c to chuck in as well
> 
> I have just finished designing a system (and implementing it) for our
> corporation that allows distributed e-mail across a city, with hundreds,
> possibly thousands, of different locations either dialing up or being
> permanently connected to our main relay. And all e-mail is sent to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], no subdomains (although we have set it up to allow for
> virtual domains in the future), and is delivered to the correct location.
> 
> All the e-mail is relayed to NFS shares on client machines around Sydney,
> uing Qmail's maildir delivery format. If an NFS share is down (ie a site
> hasn't dialed up recently or an ISDN link has failed), then it is deferred
> for up to a week - simplistic but it works. All users can check their e-mail
> internally from their local server or externally from the main server (only
> internet viewable machine in the entire network, and even then through a
> router) via NIS.
> 
> Why go to all this trouble? You may say. Why not just use aliases? Because
> aliases can create excess traffic, bouncing e-mails when servers are down
> and the like. The aim of this project was to make network traffic across the
> whole network as small as possible, with reliability for as many locations
> as possible and the ability for smaller ones to only have to dial in
> (similar to UUCP). This way, the only network traffic is an e-mail being
> transferred to an NFS share, and all employees are happy. If a server goes
> down, no others are affected (except if the master server was to go down,
> but even then POP and SMTP will still work, just being deferred until it
> comes up again). We are also working on a redundant server for when a link
> goes down or the server has a failure.
> 
> If you're still reading, congratulations you might be interested in all
> this. I am considering writing a HOWTO for this (Reliable and Efficient
> Distributed e-mail (REDE) across endless locations) if anybody wants it,
> because I have to document it all anyway for the corporation. There might
> already be something already out there, I dunno. But it was a great learning
> experience for me in Qmail, NFS, NIS, network infrastructure between
> locations... If anybody is interested in a HOWTO in the future, please
> e-mail me personally.

I would be interested just out of curitosity

Greg Cope


> Regards
> 
> Brett Randall