Re: Small LDAP support for qmail

2001-07-11 Thread David Talkington

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Severin Olloz wrote:

I have a LDAP-server with all my users and now I want to set up a
qmail-mailserver with vmailmgr and ldap support.

So I have try it with the big qmail-ldap patch. The patch is nice, but they
don't work together!?

When qmail becomes a email it checks first the virtualdomain-file and then
the passwd file to find out where's the home-directory of the user.

Is there a patch who tells qmail to search the users homedirectory in the
ldap-server and not in the passwd file?

That's a control file option.  Check the docs for ldaplocaldelivery
... that sounds like what you want.  You also need to be careful to
either a) not use a field called homeDirectory in the LDAP database in
a manner which conflicts with qmail-ldap's use of this value, or b)
change that value in qmail-ldap.h before you compile.  (Voice of
painful experience here...).

Full explanation:  http://www.nrg4u.com/qmail/QLDAPINSTALL

Good luck -d

- -- 
David Talkington
http://www.spotnet.org

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Re: Request for advice (qmail-remote)

2001-07-11 Thread Arjen van Drie

On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 09:29:16AM +0930, Greg Elliott wrote:
Greetings All,


[sNap]


   [The effect would be to 'hijack' (for legitimate reasons) mail for a
subset of an 
upstream domain, and deliver it locally. (Attempting to cut down on WAN
traffic)].

Is this possible, and easily achievable?

You may wanna take a look at http://untroubled.org for qmail-qfilter.


 how to read the parameters from stdinput in a shell script, manipulate
them,
 and then how to pass control back to qmail-remote.)

man qmail-control


-- 

Grtz, 

Arjen.




Re: question about autoresponder varient

2001-07-11 Thread Arjen van Drie

On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 08:49:08PM -0400, Steve wrote:

I would like to implement a feature that sends a brief email to another
email address when mail arrives for a user.  I think it can be handled
from the .qmail file but I was hoping someone could give me some pointers.

I'm using

http://untroubled.org/qmail-autoresponder/

and I' happy :)


If the other email address is a static one it won't help you though.
then |piping to a script from a .qmail file would be more your thing
to do.


-- 

Grtz, 

Arjen.




39,696 emails later...

2001-07-11 Thread lists



Well, my flood of mails has stopped at 39,696.

My boss and people at the office were also getting the mails 
at the office domain.
I took the office mail server offline when they were at about 
9,000 mails to prevent them from getting flooded.
After I stopped getting mails at my home address, I checked 
the sending mail server and the zombie processes had stopped.
I put the office machine back online and the zombie processes 
kicked in again, and the people at the office began receiving the mails again. 
Should I tell them to just hang in there until the total reaches 
39,696?

The zombie processes look like this:

qmailr 26008 0.0 0.5 888 
568 ?? S 3:16PM 0:00.00 
qmail-remote officedom.com query-return-31053-rtagqmailr 26088 
0.0 0.5 888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31068-rtagqmailr 26097 0.0 0.5 
888 568 ?? S 3:17PM 
0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com query-return-31066-m_ayqmailr 26101 
0.0 0.5 888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.01 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31069-m_ayqmailr 26119 0.0 0.5 
888 568 ?? S 3:17PM 
0:00.01 qmail-remote officedom.com query-return-31070-rtagqmailr 26122 
0.0 0.5 888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31070-m_ayqmailr 26124 0.0 0.5 
888 568 ?? S 3:17PM 
0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com query-return-31070-santqmailr 26127 
0.0 0.5 888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.01 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31070-nakaqmailr 26131 0.0 0.5 
888 568 ?? S 3:17PM 
0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com query-return-31067-rtagqmailr 26132 
0.0 0.5 888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.01 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31067-m_ayqmailr 26133 0.0 0.5 
888 568 ?? S 3:17PM 
0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com query-return-31067-santqmailr 26134 
0.0 0.5 888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31067-naka
 (this list shows about half of the 
processes)

As I mentioned before, I have removed user 'query' in whose 
name the mails are being sent, stopped qmail, cleared the cache, restarted qmail 
and even rebooted the server itself, but these zombies just won't die. Anyone 
have an oaken stake for qmail-remote?

Thanks,

Shawn



Re: qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook

2001-07-11 Thread David Talkington

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Sam Carleton wrote:

Does anyone know of a IMAP server that get along with Outlook 2000 and that
works with Maildir/?

We have no trouble with Outlook Express and Courier, and I believe
Outlook uses the same mail subsystem as Outlook Express IF the former
is in internet mail mode, and not MAPI (I think they call that
corporate/workgroup mode).  MAPI is an abomination anyway.

At least that was true of Outlook when last I dealt with it, which I'm
happy to say was about 18 months ago.
- -d

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David Talkington
http://www.spotnet.org

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Re: 39,696 emails later...

2001-07-11 Thread James Stevens



man, if it were me I'd kill all mail services and 
wipe the queue clean .. Check the qmail home page there are a few queue repair 
and fix tools avaliable... But simplest way is to rm- R queue and then either 
(depending on how good you are) retouch the queue to set it up again or the 
simpler approach just goto the qmail source directory and re-run 'make setup 
check'

--JT
Network Administrator

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  lists 
  
  To: Qmail Mailing List 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:30 
  PM
  Subject: 39,696 emails later...
  
  Well, my flood of mails has stopped at 39,696.
  
  My boss and people at the office were also getting the mails 
  at the office domain.
  I took the office mail server offline when they were at 
  about 9,000 mails to prevent them from getting flooded.
  After I stopped getting mails at my home address, I checked 
  the sending mail server and the zombie processes had stopped.
  I put the office machine back online and the zombie 
  processes kicked in again, and the people at the office began receiving the 
  mails again. Should I tell them to just hang in there until the total reaches 
  39,696?
  
  The zombie processes look like this:
  
  qmailr 26008 0.0 0.5 888 
  568 ?? S 3:16PM 0:00.00 
  qmail-remote officedom.com query-return-31053-rtagqmailr 26088 
  0.0 0.5 888 568 ?? 
  S 3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote 
  officedom.com query-return-31068-rtagqmailr 26097 0.0 
  0.5 888 568 ?? S 
  3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
  query-return-31066-m_ayqmailr 26101 0.0 0.5 
  888 568 ?? S 3:17PM 
  0:00.01 qmail-remote officedom.com query-return-31069-m_ayqmailr 
  26119 0.0 0.5 888 568 ?? 
  S 3:17PM 0:00.01 qmail-remote 
  officedom.com query-return-31070-rtagqmailr 26122 0.0 
  0.5 888 568 ?? S 
  3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
  query-return-31070-m_ayqmailr 26124 0.0 0.5 
  888 568 ?? S 3:17PM 
  0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com query-return-31070-santqmailr 
  26127 0.0 0.5 888 568 ?? 
  S 3:17PM 0:00.01 qmail-remote 
  officedom.com query-return-31070-nakaqmailr 26131 0.0 
  0.5 888 568 ?? S 
  3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
  query-return-31067-rtagqmailr 26132 0.0 0.5 
  888 568 ?? S 3:17PM 
  0:00.01 qmail-remote officedom.com query-return-31067-m_ayqmailr 
  26133 0.0 0.5 888 568 ?? 
  S 3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote 
  officedom.com query-return-31067-santqmailr 26134 0.0 
  0.5 888 568 ?? S 
  3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
  query-return-31067-naka
   (this list shows about half of the 
  processes)
  
  As I mentioned before, I have removed user 'query' in whose 
  name the mails are being sent, stopped qmail, cleared the cache, restarted 
  qmail and even rebooted the server itself, but these zombies just won't die. 
  Anyone have an oaken stake for qmail-remote?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Shawn
  


Re: 39,696 emails later...

2001-07-11 Thread lists



I did stop qmail and clean the queue using this 
script:

for i in bounce info intd local mess remote todo; do find 
/usr/local/qmail/queue/$i -type f -exec rm {} \; done
started qmail back up again, and the zombies came alive and 
continued to sent... sob

Shawn

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  James Stevens 
  To: lists ; Qmail Mailing 
  List 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 3:43 
  PM
  Subject: Re: 39,696 emails 
  later...
  
  man, if it were me I'd kill all mail services and 
  wipe the queue clean .. Check the qmail home page there are a few queue repair 
  and fix tools avaliable... But simplest way is to rm- R queue and then either 
  (depending on how good you are) retouch the queue to set it up again or the 
  simpler approach just goto the qmail source directory and re-run 'make setup 
  check'
  
  --JT
  Network Administrator
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
lists 

To: Qmail Mailing 
List 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:30 
PM
Subject: 39,696 emails later...

Well, my flood of mails has stopped at 
39,696.

My boss and people at the office were also getting the 
mails at the office domain.
I took the office mail server offline when they were at 
about 9,000 mails to prevent them from getting flooded.
After I stopped getting mails at my home address, I 
checked the sending mail server and the zombie processes had 
stopped.
I put the office machine back online and the zombie 
processes kicked in again, and the people at the office began receiving the 
mails again. Should I tell them to just hang in there until the total 
reaches 39,696?

The zombie processes look like this:

qmailr 26008 0.0 0.5 888 
568 ?? S 3:16PM 0:00.00 
qmail-remote officedom.com query-return-31053-rtagqmailr 26088 
0.0 0.5 888 568 ?? 
S 3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote 
officedom.com query-return-31068-rtagqmailr 26097 0.0 
0.5 888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31066-m_ayqmailr 26101 0.0 0.5 
888 568 ?? S 3:17PM 
0:00.01 qmail-remote officedom.com query-return-31069-m_ayqmailr 
26119 0.0 0.5 888 568 ?? 
S 3:17PM 0:00.01 qmail-remote 
officedom.com query-return-31070-rtagqmailr 26122 0.0 
0.5 888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31070-m_ayqmailr 26124 0.0 0.5 
888 568 ?? S 3:17PM 
0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com query-return-31070-santqmailr 
26127 0.0 0.5 888 568 ?? 
S 3:17PM 0:00.01 qmail-remote 
officedom.com query-return-31070-nakaqmailr 26131 0.0 
0.5 888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31067-rtagqmailr 26132 0.0 0.5 
888 568 ?? S 3:17PM 
0:00.01 qmail-remote officedom.com query-return-31067-m_ayqmailr 
26133 0.0 0.5 888 568 ?? 
S 3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote 
officedom.com query-return-31067-santqmailr 26134 0.0 
0.5 888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31067-naka
 (this list shows about half of the 
processes)

As I mentioned before, I have removed user 'query' in 
whose name the mails are being sent, stopped qmail, cleared the cache, 
restarted qmail and even rebooted the server itself, but these zombies just 
won't die. Anyone have an oaken stake for qmail-remote?

Thanks,

Shawn



timestamp wrong

2001-07-11 Thread Chris Herrmann

Hi,

the timestamp on mailmessages processed by my mail server is wrong - it's 20
hours fast. The time on the server is fine, time on the workstation is fine.
A test message from me to me via the aforementioned server will result in a
message delivered tomorrow sometime (well, it tells me that it's arrived
tomorrow!).

I saw a comment in one of the pages on cr.yp.to/??? that mentioned adding:

TZ=CST6CDT

to the line:

 env - PATH=/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin \

in the services qmail-pop3d, qmail-smtpd etc.

I've done so, but the messages still have strange time stamps.

Any ideas what the variable TZ means, if  how I should use it here, and if
not, how to get the delivery of messages reporting the correct time?

I'm GMT+10.

Thanks,

Chris Herrmann
Far Edge Technology

p. 02 99553640
f. 02 99547994
m. 0403 393309
http://www.faredge.com.au




Re: 39,696 emails later...

2001-07-11 Thread Adrian Ho

On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 03:30:45PM +0900, lists wrote:
 qmailr 26008  0.0  0.5   888  568  ??  S 3:16PM   0:00.00 qmail-remote
 officedom.com query-return-31053-rtag

Try 'ps -efwww' -- it may be instructive to see all the args to
qmail-remote.

- Adrian



Re: Begging for a control/spamlovers patch

2001-07-11 Thread Adam McKenna

On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 08:27:22PM +0200, torben fjerdingstad wrote:
 Please don't suggest post-filtering instead. I want control
 at the SMTP level.
 Otherwise I may have a hard time trying to return an error
 message, and maybe the sender is unreachable or an innocent
 fake. I would never silently drop an email, at least not
 without having looked at it first, and I don't have time
 for that.

Why do you need to return an error message?  Just drop the mail into the bit
bucket.

--Adam



Error 4.4.2 Duplicate messages

2001-07-11 Thread BKY Lam

My company has implemented the Qmail 1.0.3 to handle the incoming Internet 
emails and relay them to our internal email server.

A error message
Deferral :Connected_to_x.x.x.x_but_connection_died._Possible
_duplicate!_(#4.4.2)/ has been reported when handle some incoming SMTP 
mails.(where x.x.x.x is the ip of the internal mail server)

Those mails will be kept in the queue and re-send again  again until the 
queuelifetime has been expired. The same error message will be reported when 
they have been re-sent. But our internal mail server has already received 
such mails completely and delivered to the user. So the user will received 
the same mail many times due to the qmail re-send.

Not all the incoming mails has such problem. It seem to be happened
randomly. The mails with such error message reported are from different mail 
servers and with different sending time. The mail size of them are various, 
some with attachment and some without.

No such error happened before implementation of the qmail.

Does anybody have idea on this issue and help me to solve it?

B.LAM
_
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.




Re: timestamp wrong

2001-07-11 Thread Adrian Ho

On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 05:20:30PM +1000, Chris Herrmann wrote:
 Any ideas what the variable TZ means, if  how I should use it here, and if
 not, how to get the delivery of messages reporting the correct time?

I've answered this question previously; see:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=qmailm=98976251223963w=2

- Adrian



Re: 39,696 emails later...

2001-07-11 Thread lists



Not sure how to filter... any suggestions?

crontab -l shows:
40 * * * * /usr/local/vpopmail/bin/clearopensmtp 21 
 /dev/null

Don't see anything about clearopensmtp in 'Running 
qmail'.

I'll try the web...

Thanks,

Shawn

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  James Stevens 
  To: lists 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 4:06 
  PM
  Subject: Re: 39,696 emails 
  later...
  
  Ok, in that case kill everything again.. Leave it 
  off for a few minutes.. 
  
  Add a filter in to block the zombie.. BTW the 
  only thing that could bring a zombie back is a cronjob 
  hinthint
  
  But if all else fails filer the darn thing till 
  it stops.
  
  --JT
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
lists 

To: James Stevens ; Qmail Mailing 
List 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 12:00 
AM
Subject: Re: 39,696 emails 
later...

I did stop qmail and clean the queue using this 
script:

for i in bounce info intd local mess remote todo; do 
find /usr/local/qmail/queue/$i -type f -exec rm {} \; 
done
started qmail back up again, and the zombies came alive 
and continued to sent... sob

Shawn

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  James Stevens 
  To: lists ; 
  Qmail 
  Mailing List 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 
  3:43 PM
  Subject: Re: 39,696 emails 
  later...
  
  man, if it were me I'd kill all mail services 
  and wipe the queue clean .. Check the qmail home page there are a few 
  queue repair and fix tools avaliable... But simplest way is to rm- R queue 
  and then either (depending on how good you are) retouch the queue to set 
  it up again or the simpler approach just goto the qmail source directory 
  and re-run 'make setup check'
  
  --JT
  Network Administrator
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
lists 
To: Qmail 
Mailing List 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:30 
PM
Subject: 39,696 emails 
later...

Well, my flood of mails has stopped at 
39,696.

My boss and people at the office were also getting the 
mails at the office domain.
I took the office mail server offline when they were 
at about 9,000 mails to prevent them from getting flooded.
After I stopped getting mails at my home address, I 
checked the sending mail server and the zombie processes had 
stopped.
I put the office machine back online and the zombie 
processes kicked in again, and the people at the office began receiving 
the mails again. Should I tell them to just hang in there until the 
total reaches 39,696?

The zombie processes look like this:

qmailr 26008 0.0 0.5 888 
568 ?? S 3:16PM 0:00.00 
qmail-remote officedom.com query-return-31053-rtagqmailr 26088 
0.0 0.5 888 568 ?? 
S 3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote 
officedom.com query-return-31068-rtagqmailr 26097 0.0 
0.5 888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31066-m_ayqmailr 26101 0.0 0.5 
888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.01 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31069-m_ayqmailr 26119 0.0 0.5 
888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.01 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31070-rtagqmailr 26122 0.0 0.5 
888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31070-m_ayqmailr 26124 0.0 0.5 
888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31070-santqmailr 26127 0.0 0.5 
888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.01 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31070-nakaqmailr 26131 0.0 0.5 
888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31067-rtagqmailr 26132 0.0 0.5 
888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.01 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31067-m_ayqmailr 26133 0.0 0.5 
888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31067-santqmailr 26134 0.0 0.5 
888 568 ?? S 
3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
query-return-31067-naka
 (this list shows about half of the 
processes)

As I mentioned before, I have removed user 'query' in 
whose name the mails are being sent, stopped qmail, cleared the cache, 
restarted qmail and even rebooted the server itself, but these zombies 
just won't die. Anyone have an oaken stake for 
qmail-remote?

Thanks,

Shawn



Anonymous account problem..

2001-07-11 Thread Base




I have a problem with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
account onmy qmailserver.

It seems as if senders from outside are able to use this 
account to send spam or relay spam...

I´m not a programcode wiz so if anybody has a solution for 
'program code dummy' I will be greatful as this is a major problem to 
stop.

Thanks,

Frank Hansen


RE: 39,696 emails later...

2001-07-11 Thread Deslions Nicolas



grrr i 
think you should consider plain text instead of html... this is 
boring...


  -Message d'origine-De: lists 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Envoy$B!)(Jnbsp;: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 
  08:31: Qmail Mailing ListObjet: 39,696 
  emails later...
  Well, my flood of mails has stopped at 39,696.
  
  My boss and people at the office were also getting the mails 
  at the office domain.
  I took the office mail server offline when they were at 
  about 9,000 mails to prevent them from getting flooded.
  After I stopped getting mails at my home address, I checked 
  the sending mail server and the zombie processes had stopped.
  I put the office machine back online and the zombie 
  processes kicked in again, and the people at the office began receiving the 
  mails again. Should I tell them to just hang in there until the total reaches 
  39,696?
  
  The zombie processes look like this:
  
  qmailr 26008 0.0 0.5 888 
  568 ?? S 3:16PM 0:00.00 
  qmail-remote officedom.com query-return-31053-rtagqmailr 26088 
  0.0 0.5 888 568 ?? 
  S 3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote 
  officedom.com query-return-31068-rtagqmailr 26097 0.0 
  0.5 888 568 ?? S 
  3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
  query-return-31066-m_ayqmailr 26101 0.0 0.5 
  888 568 ?? S 3:17PM 
  0:00.01 qmail-remote officedom.com query-return-31069-m_ayqmailr 
  26119 0.0 0.5 888 568 ?? 
  S 3:17PM 0:00.01 qmail-remote 
  officedom.com query-return-31070-rtagqmailr 26122 0.0 
  0.5 888 568 ?? S 
  3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
  query-return-31070-m_ayqmailr 26124 0.0 0.5 
  888 568 ?? S 3:17PM 
  0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com query-return-31070-santqmailr 
  26127 0.0 0.5 888 568 ?? 
  S 3:17PM 0:00.01 qmail-remote 
  officedom.com query-return-31070-nakaqmailr 26131 0.0 
  0.5 888 568 ?? S 
  3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
  query-return-31067-rtagqmailr 26132 0.0 0.5 
  888 568 ?? S 3:17PM 
  0:00.01 qmail-remote officedom.com query-return-31067-m_ayqmailr 
  26133 0.0 0.5 888 568 ?? 
  S 3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote 
  officedom.com query-return-31067-santqmailr 26134 0.0 
  0.5 888 568 ?? S 
  3:17PM 0:00.00 qmail-remote officedom.com 
  query-return-31067-naka
   (this list shows about half of the 
  processes)
  
  As I mentioned before, I have removed user 'query' in whose 
  name the mails are being sent, stopped qmail, cleared the cache, restarted 
  qmail and even rebooted the server itself, but these zombies just won't die. 
  Anyone have an oaken stake for qmail-remote?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Shawn
  


Re: 39,696 emails later...

2001-07-11 Thread Robin S. Socha

* Deslions Nicolas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010711 03:56]:
 grrr i think you should consider plain text instead of html... this is
 boring...

http://learn.to/edit_messages/ - and do not EVER Cc: me. You're wasting
bandwidth for no apparent reason. Just... don't. Reply-to set to me,
this is 100% OT here.



Re: Forwarding Nightmare

2001-07-11 Thread peter green

* lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010710 23:47]:
 The logs look fine.

Prove it: post them. (That is, if you actually expect any help from the
list...)

/pg
-- 
Peter Green : Architekton Internet Services, LLC : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
Oh, I've seen copies [of Linux Journal] around the terminal room at The
Labs.
(By Dennis Ritchie)




QUEUE_EXTRA problem

2001-07-11 Thread Dushyanth Harinath

  Hi folks,
  I want to store a copy of all incoming/outgoing
  mails.so as per the qmail faq i have modified extra.h
  and set the values for QUEUE_EXTRA=Tlog\0 and
  QUEUE_EXTRALEN=5.

  #cat /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-log
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  no when i send a mail i get a copy of that mail at
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] and also to the TO address but i get 4
  failure notices at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  the failure notice is like this..

  
  Hi. This is the qmail-send program at
  appolo.archeanit.net.
  I tried to deliver a bounce message to this address,
  but the bounce bounced!

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  This message is looping: it already has my
  Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6)

  --- Below this line is the original bounce.

  Return-Path: 
  Received: (qmail 7617 invoked by alias); 11 Jul 2001
  18:21:43 -
  Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Received: (qmail 7612 invoked for bounce); 11 Jul 2001
  18:21:43 -
  Date: 11 Jul 2001 18:21:43 -
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: failure notice

  Hi. This is the qmail-send program at
  appolo.archeanit.net.
  I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to
  the following addresses.
  This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it
  didn't work out.

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  This message is looping: it already has my
  Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6)

  --- Below this line is a copy of the message.

  Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Received: (qmail 7608 invoked by alias); 11 Jul 2001
  18:21:42 -
  Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Received: (qmail 7604 invoked from network); 11 Jul
  2001 18:21:42 -
  Received: from unknown (HELO node4.archeanit.net)
  (127.0.0.1)
by -R with SMTP; 11 Jul 2001 18:21:42 -
  Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=iso-8859-1
  From: Dushy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Organization: Archean
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: testing catchall -9
  Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 14:21:42 -0400
  X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2]
  MIME-Version: 1.0
  Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

  testing catchall -9deqe
  we
  qweqw
  eqw
  eqwe
  qw
  e

  

  iam really confused as it works as expected but i get
  these 4 failure notices.

  Any pointers,suggestions
  TIA
  regards
  dushyanth

-- 
Dushyanth Harinath
Archean Infotech Limited
Ph No:091-040-3228666,6570704,3228674
http://www.archeanit.com






Re: Begging for a control/spamlovers patch

2001-07-11 Thread Henning Brauer

On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:43:16AM +0200, torben fjerdingstad wrote:
 - Please don't suggest post-filtering-

Happy coding.

You are refusing the obvious, elegant and working solution. If you don't
want our advice, don't ask.

And don't whine here if your hacked qmail-smtpd doesn't work proper.

-- 
* Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de *
* Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany   *
Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
(Dennis Ritchie)



Re: Problem with received from

2001-07-11 Thread Henning Brauer

On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 08:18:22PM -0600, Trevor Harrison wrote:
 Received: from localhost (HELO hoser) (127.0.0.1)
   by 0 with SMTP; 10 Jul 2001 06:24:44 -

 The Received: from header has by 0 instead of by 
 starnie.harrison.org.  Looking in qmail-smtpd.c, I can see where it 
 gets assigned:

remove the -l 0 parameter to tcpserver from your qmail-smtpd run file.

-- 
* Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de *
* Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany   *
Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
(Dennis Ritchie)



how can I unsubscri...

2001-07-11 Thread Juan Garabana Barro

How can I unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

Thanks.

Juan. 




Re: 39,696 emails later...

2001-07-11 Thread David Gartner

Shawn,

clearopensmtp is a part of vpopmail.  It's used for roaming access.
 It clears out the old allows from tcpserver.  Hope this helps.

David Gartner



lists wrote:

 Not sure how to filter... any suggestions? crontab -l shows:40 * * * *
 /usr/local/vpopmail/bin/clearopensmtp 21  /dev/null Don't see
 anything about clearopensmtp in 'Running qmail'. I'll try the
 web... Thanks, Shawn




RE: how can I unsubscri...

2001-07-11 Thread Alfonso Armenta

I didn't know this list had an unsubscribe option. This is a life sentence...
 

-Original Message-
From: Juan Garabana Barro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 1:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: how can I unsubscri...


How can I unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

Thanks.

Juan. 





Re: qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook

2001-07-11 Thread Ricardo SIGNES

In a message dated Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:33:13AM -0500, David Talkington wrote:
 Sam Carleton wrote:
 Does anyone know of a IMAP server that get along with Outlook 2000 and that
 works with Maildir/?
 We have no trouble with Outlook Express and Courier, and I believe
 Outlook uses the same mail subsystem as Outlook Express IF the former
 is in internet mail mode, and not MAPI (I think they call that
 corporate/workgroup mode).  MAPI is an abomination anyway.
 At least that was true of Outlook when last I dealt with it, which I'm
 happy to say was about 18 months ago.

That's true for Outlook 2000, yes.  Outlook 2002 is happy to run IMAP -and- 
MAPI, so I've switched to that at work.  Sadly, we use the abomination.

-- 
rjbs

 PGP signature


forwarding problem

2001-07-11 Thread GARGIULO Eduardo INGDESI

Hi all.

I have a problem with some messages that are not forwarded and I don't
know why. I have the following configuration:

echo admin  ~alias/.qmail-root 
echo admin  ~alias/.qmail-postmaster 
echo admin  ~alias/.qmail-mailer-daemon

cat ~admin/.qmail
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
./Mailbox

Some error messages (for an address not in rcpthost) are delivered to
postmaster and stored in ~admin/Mailbox but not forwarded to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
How can I fix it? messages to admin, postmaster, root and mailer-daemon
are forwarded and stored ok.

thanks

~edu



please remove me

2001-07-11 Thread Webmaster






Re: please remove me

2001-07-11 Thread Henning Brauer

On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 09:35:51AM -0400, Webmaster wrote:
[nothing]

All you guys were able to subscribe to this list. All you guys got the
welcome message where the usubcribe procedure was described, aside the hint
to keep this message for further reference.

It's really easy to unsuibscribe, and using your brain you will succeed in
doing so. If not, i'll do that for you. Only US$ 1 per unsubscription.
If you order until tomorrow only, of course.


-- 
* Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de *
* Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany   *
Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
(Dennis Ritchie)



Re: forwarding problem

2001-07-11 Thread Dave Sill

GARGIULO Eduardo   INGDESI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a problem with some messages that are not forwarded and I don't
know why. I have the following configuration:

echo admin  ~alias/.qmail-root 
echo admin  ~alias/.qmail-postmaster 
echo admin  ~alias/.qmail-mailer-daemon

cat ~admin/.qmail
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
./Mailbox

Some error messages (for an address not in rcpthost) are delivered to
postmaster and stored in ~admin/Mailbox but not forwarded to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
How can I fix it? messages to admin, postmaster, root and mailer-daemon
are forwarded and stored ok.

What Do The Logs Say? (tm)

-Dave



Re: qmailr processes

2001-07-11 Thread Charles Cazabon

lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Every time qmail starts up, I get those same qmailr processes sending mail
 to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Then perhaps something is injecting new mail.

However, we can't tell without the logs.  You've been asked twice to
post them, and you've brushed off both requests, saying they're fine.
Expect no further help on this issue.

Charles
-- 
---
Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED]
GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
---



Re: Qmail refuses to deliver if the user account dir is world-writeable

2001-07-11 Thread Charles Cazabon

Foo Ji-Haw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can I make qmail deliver incoming mails anyway, to user accounts which
 are world-writeable?

Read about conf-patrn.  However, the bigger question is why are user
home directories world-writable?  That's always a configuration error.

Charles
-- 
---
Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED]
GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
---



Re: Error 4.4.2 Duplicate messages

2001-07-11 Thread Charles Cazabon

BKY Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 A error message
 Deferral :Connected_to_x.x.x.x_but_connection_died._Possible
 _duplicate!_(#4.4.2)/ has been reported when handle some incoming SMTP 
 mails.(where x.x.x.x is the ip of the internal mail server)

Your internal server is dropping connections.
 
[...]
 
 No such error happened before implementation of the qmail.

It's still your internal server's problem -- it's not obeying
RFC821/2821.  Since qmail doesn't know the message was successfully
queued by your internal server (it didn't respond 2xx to the DATA
phase), it _has_ to re-attempt delivery.

Fix the internal server.  If you want proof it's broken, capture one of
these messages being transferred with tcpdump.

Charles
-- 
---
Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED]
GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
---



RE: please remove me

2001-07-11 Thread David Morris



 -Original Message-
 From: Henning Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 11 July 2001 15:05
 To: Qmail Mailing List
 Subject: Re: please remove me

 All you guys were able to subscribe to this list. All you guys got the
 welcome message where the usubcribe procedure was described, 
 aside the hint
 to keep this message for further reference.
 
 It's really easy to unsuibscribe, and using your brain you 
 will succeed in
 doing so. 

Look in the header. You'll see this:

Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm

Send a message to the address for instructions. I seldom remember to keep
the subscription instructions either, but most mailing lists (unlike some of
the contributors) can be helpful.

-- 
David Morris (@home)  ICQ:52928733
work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.davidm.demon.co.uk

 winmail.dat


Re: Anonymous account problem..

2001-07-11 Thread Charles Cazabon

Base [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a problem with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] account on my
 qmailserver.
 
 It seems as if senders from outside are able to use this account to
 send spam or relay spam...

Perhaps they're abusing a poorly-written formmail script or such?  qmail
doesn't care about usernames and doesn't use them to control relay
attempts.  Something besides qmail is broken.

Charles
-- 
---
Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED]
GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
---



Re: how can I unsubscri...

2001-07-11 Thread Charles Cazabon

Juan Garabana Barro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can I unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

From the archives:

From: Lukasz Gogolewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: hi,how to unsubcribe?
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sigh. This has become such a FAQ that I'm reposting the detailed
instructions:

First, ask your Internet Provider to mail you an Unsubscribing Kit.
Then follow these directions.

The kit will most likely be the standard no-fault type. Depending on
requirements, System A and/or System B can be used. When operating
System A, depress lever and a plastic dalkron unsubscriber will be
dispensed through the slot immediately underneath. When you have
fastened the adhesive lip, attach connection marked by the large X
outlet hose. Twist the silver- coloured ring one inch below the
connection point until you feel it lock.

The kit is now ready for use. The Cin-Eliminator is activated by the
small switch on the lip. When securing, twist the ring back to its
initial condition, so that the two orange lines meet. Disconnect. Place
the dalkron unsubscriber in the vacuum receptacle to the rear. Activate
by pressing the blue button.

The controls for System B are located on the opposite side. The red
release switch places the Cin-Eliminator into position; it can be
adjusted manually up or down by pressing the blue manual release button.
The opening is self- adjusting. To secure after use, press the green
button, which simultaneously activates the evaporator and returns the
Cin-Eliminator to its storage position.

You may log off if the green exit light is on over the evaporator . If
the red light is illuminated, one of the Cin-Eliminator requirements has
not been properly implemented. Press the List Guy call button on the
right of the evaporator . He will secure all facilities from his control
panel.

To use the Auto-Unsub, first undress and place all your clothes in the
clothes rack. Put on the velcro slippers located in the cabinet
immediately below. Enter the shower, taking the entire kit with you. On
the control panel to your upper right upon entering you will see a
Shower seal button.  Press to activate. A green light will then be
illuminated immediately below.  On the intensity knob, select the
desired setting. Now depress the Auto-Unsub activation lever. Bathe
normally.

The Auto-Unsub will automatically go off after three minutes unless you
activate the Manual off override switch by flipping it up. When you
are ready to leave, press the blue Shower seal release button. The
door will open and you may leave. Please remove the velcro slippers and
place them in their container.

If you prefer the ultrasonic log-off mode, press the indicated blue
button.  When the twin panels open, pull forward by rings A  B. The
knob to the left, just below the blue light, has three settings, low,
medium or high. For normal use, the medium setting is suggested.

After these settings have been made, you can activate the device by
switching to the ON position the clearly marked red switch. If during
the unsubscribing operation, you wish to change the settings, place the
manual off override switch in the OFF position. You may now make the
change and repeat the cycle. When the green exit light goes on, you may
log off and have lunch. Please close the door behind you.

- Lucas



Charles
-- 
---
Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED]
GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
---



Re: Unable_to_open_/var/qmail/boxes/Mailbox.user:_access_denied._(#4.2.1) message

2001-07-11 Thread Charles Cazabon

Rodney Broom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm getting this message when I send mail to user:
   Unable_to_open_/var/qmail/boxes/Mailbox.user:_access_denied._(#4.2.1)
 
 I've moved the file location around and done everything thinkable with the
 permissions, to no avail.

What does the following command output?

  ls -ld / /var /var/qmail /var/qmail/boxes /var/qmail/boxes/*

and which .qmail file (i.e. which local user) is controlling this
delivery?

Charles
-- 
---
Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED]
GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
---



Re: Request for advice (qmail-remote)

2001-07-11 Thread Charles Cazabon

Greg Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 [The effect would be to 'hijack' (for legitimate reasons) mail for a
 subset of an upstream domain, and deliver it locally. (Attempting to
 cut down on WAN traffic)].

You're asking us to confirm your proposed solution as being a good (or
possibly the best) solution, without actually explaining the problem
you're trying to solve.

Instead, describe the actual problem which qmail's normal behaviour
appears to be causing for you, with documentation (logs, measurements,
etc).  Then perhaps someone will have a better suggestion for how to
fix the problem.

Charles 
-- 
---
Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED]
GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
---



Re: QUEUE_EXTRA problem

2001-07-11 Thread Dushyanth Harinath

Hi,
it worked as i hardcoded the catch all account email id in to QUEUE_EXTRA.
Anyway..thanks for the reply ...i will try ur option too..

regards
dushyanth

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I want to store a copy of all incoming/outgoing
  mails.so as per the qmail faq i have modified extra.h
  and set the values for QUEUE_EXTRA=Tlog\0 and
  QUEUE_EXTRALEN=5.

  #cat /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-log
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  no when i send a mail i get a copy of that mail at
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] and also to the TO address but i get 4
  failure notices at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  the failure notice is like this..

  [message is looping]
 
 The log copy must be delivered to a file (maildir or mbox) or program,
 not forwarded to another address. If you try to forward the log copy,
 then that copy will be copied again, etc.


-- 
Dushyanth Harinath
Archean Infotech Limited
Ph No:091-040-3228666,6570704,3228674
http://www.archeanit.com






Re: Small LDAP support for qmail

2001-07-11 Thread Dave Sill

Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm not aware of another patch for qmail doing ldap lookups - maybe
qmail-ldap ist just to good to start coding another one ;-))

There's a PAM LDAP module, but I don't know much about it.
Theoretically, it wouldn't require any qmail patching and would work
with everything, not just qmail.

-Dave



Re: Qmail error messages.

2001-07-11 Thread Dave Sill

Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is there documentation for each qmail error message?

No.

i.e

Unable_to_open_/var/qmail/boxes/Mailbox.user:_access_denied._(#4.2.1)

That one's pretty descriptive, isn't it? The user running qmail-local
can't open that file, probably due to file or directory
permissions. Note that you have to look at the permissions on every
directory in the path. E.g.:

  ls -ld / /var /var/qmail /var/qmail/boxes /var/qmail/boxes/Mailbox.user

Could a FAQ for each qmail error message be written up?

Certainly.

Would that be a useful addition to LWQ?

That would be great. It's been planned for LWQ since the beginning
(see Appendix F), but I haven't had the time/gumption to write it up.

-Dave



Re: how can I unsubscri...

2001-07-11 Thread Dave Sill

Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From the archives:

From: Lukasz Gogolewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: hi,how to unsubcribe?
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sigh. This has become such a FAQ that I'm reposting the detailed
instructions:

First, ask your Internet Provider to mail you an Unsubscribing Kit.
Then follow these directions.

FYI, Lukasz didn't write that, and wasn't the first person to post it
on the qmail list.

See:

http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/1997/02/msg00174.html

http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/05/msg00665.html

http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2001/05/msg01379.html

I have no idea who the original author is.

-Dave



Re: QUEUE_EXTRA problem

2001-07-11 Thread Magnus Bodin

On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 08:12:09PM +0530, Dushyanth Harinath wrote:
 Hi,
 it worked as i hardcoded the catch all account email id in to QUEUE_EXTRA.
 Anyway..thanks for the reply ...i will try ur option too..

It will work as it is an immediate deliver then. 
If you actively FORWARD the mail by an ''-line in e.g. .qmail-log line,
the mail gets _queued_ again. And QUEUE_EXTRA means that EVERY QUEUED MAIL
gets queued again. And if that mail gets forward in the .qmail-file, you
are activating an infinte loop.

(just as Dave Sill perfectly pointed out)

/magnus

--
:.   Magnus Bodin
::.   http://x42.com/
..  
latieno.hrdsymgcfw,0p1vq-k:'2)+j3589b/(




Re: Request for advice (qmail-remote)

2001-07-11 Thread Dave Sill

Greg Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

b) The script would look at the domain of the intended recipient and if 
   it matched maildomain.com (for example) it would then look at the
   username being sent to.
   A small(ish) text file would be kept on the mail server with a list of
   usernames. If the username was found in the list, then the script would
   modify the recipient's email address to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   and place the message back into the qmail-queue (or qmail-inject if that
   is better).

   If no match is found then the message would be handed onto
   qmail-remote.real for normal processing.

   [The effect would be to 'hijack' (for legitimate reasons) mail for a
   subset of an upstream domain, and deliver it locally. (Attempting
   to cut down on WAN traffic)].

It sounds like you're trying to reinvent qmail-style virtual
users. For example, if you want to hijack mail sent locally to your
Hotmail account, say [EMAIL PROTECTED], and your local
username is greg, you could put the following in
control/virtualdomains:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:greg-hotmail

Then populate ~greg/.qmail-hotmail-default to direct the mail to the
appropriate mailbox.

-Dave



Re: Qmail error messages.

2001-07-11 Thread David Gartner

Grant,

Do a web search on RFC1893.  This tells you what those numbers (#4.2.1)
mean.  It helps _ALOT_

David Gartner

Dave Sill wrote:

 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there documentation for each qmail error message?

 No.

 i.e
 
 Unable_to_open_/var/qmail/boxes/Mailbox.user:_access_denied._(#4.2.1)

 That one's pretty descriptive, isn't it? The user running qmail-local
 can't open that file, probably due to file or directory
 permissions. Note that you have to look at the permissions on every
 directory in the path. E.g.:

   ls -ld / /var /var/qmail /var/qmail/boxes /var/qmail/boxes/Mailbox.user

 Could a FAQ for each qmail error message be written up?

 Certainly.

 Would that be a useful addition to LWQ?

 That would be great. It's been planned for LWQ since the beginning
 (see Appendix F), but I haven't had the time/gumption to write it up.

 -Dave




Re: how can I unsubscri...

2001-07-11 Thread Juan Garabana Barro

Oh my God!!. It's very difficult to you to write: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED].

Thank you very much.

Juan


At 08:24 11/07/2001 -0600, you wrote:
Juan Garabana Barro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How can I unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

 From the archives:

From: Lukasz Gogolewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: hi,how to unsubcribe?
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sigh. This has become such a FAQ that I'm reposting the detailed
instructions:

First, ask your Internet Provider to mail you an Unsubscribing Kit.
Then follow these directions.

The kit will most likely be the standard no-fault type. Depending on
requirements, System A and/or System B can be used. When operating
System A, depress lever and a plastic dalkron unsubscriber will be
dispensed through the slot immediately underneath. When you have
fastened the adhesive lip, attach connection marked by the large X
outlet hose. Twist the silver- coloured ring one inch below the
connection point until you feel it lock.

The kit is now ready for use. The Cin-Eliminator is activated by the
small switch on the lip. When securing, twist the ring back to its
initial condition, so that the two orange lines meet. Disconnect. Place
the dalkron unsubscriber in the vacuum receptacle to the rear. Activate
by pressing the blue button.

The controls for System B are located on the opposite side. The red
release switch places the Cin-Eliminator into position; it can be
adjusted manually up or down by pressing the blue manual release button.
The opening is self- adjusting. To secure after use, press the green
button, which simultaneously activates the evaporator and returns the
Cin-Eliminator to its storage position.

You may log off if the green exit light is on over the evaporator . If
the red light is illuminated, one of the Cin-Eliminator requirements has
not been properly implemented. Press the List Guy call button on the
right of the evaporator . He will secure all facilities from his control
panel.

To use the Auto-Unsub, first undress and place all your clothes in the
clothes rack. Put on the velcro slippers located in the cabinet
immediately below. Enter the shower, taking the entire kit with you. On
the control panel to your upper right upon entering you will see a
Shower seal button.  Press to activate. A green light will then be
illuminated immediately below.  On the intensity knob, select the
desired setting. Now depress the Auto-Unsub activation lever. Bathe
normally.

The Auto-Unsub will automatically go off after three minutes unless you
activate the Manual off override switch by flipping it up. When you
are ready to leave, press the blue Shower seal release button. The
door will open and you may leave. Please remove the velcro slippers and
place them in their container.

If you prefer the ultrasonic log-off mode, press the indicated blue
button.  When the twin panels open, pull forward by rings A  B. The
knob to the left, just below the blue light, has three settings, low,
medium or high. For normal use, the medium setting is suggested.

After these settings have been made, you can activate the device by
switching to the ON position the clearly marked red switch. If during
the unsubscribing operation, you wish to change the settings, place the
manual off override switch in the OFF position. You may now make the
change and repeat the cycle. When the green exit light goes on, you may
log off and have lunch. Please close the door behind you.

- Lucas



Charles
--
---
Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED]
GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
---




Re: Monitoring MX spools -- is it possible?

2001-07-11 Thread Dave Sill

David U. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I would like the ability to give all clients backup mail service for 7 days 
and no more then say 10 megs -- whichever comes first.

Since I am just accepting mail in my rcpthosts and not delivering it 
locally to a Maildir, how can I enforce such quotas?

You could scan the queue and tally up the space used by each
MX. Wouldn't it be easier to queue to a maildir spool and run
maildirsmtp periodically?

-Dave



Re: Small LDAP support for qmail

2001-07-11 Thread David Talkington

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Dave Sill wrote:

I'm not aware of another patch for qmail doing ldap lookups - maybe
qmail-ldap ist just to good to start coding another one ;-))

There's a PAM LDAP module, but I don't know much about it.
Theoretically, it wouldn't require any qmail patching and would work
with everything, not just qmail.

I've used it on Solaris.  The only reason I took the plunge into
qmail-ldap was to gain integrated virtual domain and alias handling in
LDAP.  The PAM module works fine for normal qmail operation with LDAP
users, with no qmail modifications required.

- -d

- -- 
David Talkington

PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/dt000823.asc

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Re: how can I unsubscri...

2001-07-11 Thread John Hogan

HA HA!!! sometimes, charles makes me laugh so hard... by far the funniest 
thing i've seen all day!

thanx charles

- hogan

From: Lukasz Gogolewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: hi,how to unsubcribe?
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sigh. This has become such a FAQ that I'm reposting the detailed
instructions:

First, ask your Internet Provider to mail you an Unsubscribing Kit.
Then follow these directions.

snip




RE: how can I unsubscri...

2001-07-11 Thread Paul Kristensen

IF PEOPLE KNEW THE ANSWER THEY WOULD NOT ASK THE QUESTION !

-Original Message-
From: Juan Garabana Barro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 11 July 2001 16:39
To: Charles Cazabon
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: how can I unsubscri...


Oh my God!!. It's very difficult to you to write: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED].

Thank you very much.

Juan


At 08:24 11/07/2001 -0600, you wrote:
Juan Garabana Barro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How can I unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

 From the archives:

From: Lukasz Gogolewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: hi,how to unsubcribe?
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sigh. This has become such a FAQ that I'm reposting the detailed
instructions:

First, ask your Internet Provider to mail you an Unsubscribing Kit.
Then follow these directions.

The kit will most likely be the standard no-fault type. Depending on
requirements, System A and/or System B can be used. When operating
System A, depress lever and a plastic dalkron unsubscriber will be
dispensed through the slot immediately underneath. When you have
fastened the adhesive lip, attach connection marked by the large X
outlet hose. Twist the silver- coloured ring one inch below the
connection point until you feel it lock.

The kit is now ready for use. The Cin-Eliminator is activated by the
small switch on the lip. When securing, twist the ring back to its
initial condition, so that the two orange lines meet. Disconnect. Place
the dalkron unsubscriber in the vacuum receptacle to the rear. Activate
by pressing the blue button.

The controls for System B are located on the opposite side. The red
release switch places the Cin-Eliminator into position; it can be
adjusted manually up or down by pressing the blue manual release button.
The opening is self- adjusting. To secure after use, press the green
button, which simultaneously activates the evaporator and returns the
Cin-Eliminator to its storage position.

You may log off if the green exit light is on over the evaporator . If
the red light is illuminated, one of the Cin-Eliminator requirements has
not been properly implemented. Press the List Guy call button on the
right of the evaporator . He will secure all facilities from his control
panel.

To use the Auto-Unsub, first undress and place all your clothes in the
clothes rack. Put on the velcro slippers located in the cabinet
immediately below. Enter the shower, taking the entire kit with you. On
the control panel to your upper right upon entering you will see a
Shower seal button.  Press to activate. A green light will then be
illuminated immediately below.  On the intensity knob, select the
desired setting. Now depress the Auto-Unsub activation lever. Bathe
normally.

The Auto-Unsub will automatically go off after three minutes unless you
activate the Manual off override switch by flipping it up. When you
are ready to leave, press the blue Shower seal release button. The
door will open and you may leave. Please remove the velcro slippers and
place them in their container.

If you prefer the ultrasonic log-off mode, press the indicated blue
button.  When the twin panels open, pull forward by rings A  B. The
knob to the left, just below the blue light, has three settings, low,
medium or high. For normal use, the medium setting is suggested.

After these settings have been made, you can activate the device by
switching to the ON position the clearly marked red switch. If during
the unsubscribing operation, you wish to change the settings, place the
manual off override switch in the OFF position. You may now make the
change and repeat the cycle. When the green exit light goes on, you may
log off and have lunch. Please close the door behind you.

- Lucas



Charles
--
---
Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED]
GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
---





Re: how can I unsubscri...

2001-07-11 Thread Henning Brauer

http://learn.to/quote

On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 05:38:49PM +0200, Juan Garabana Barro wrote:
 Oh my God!!. It's very difficult to you to write: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED].

That's the reason. Everyone on this list survived writing to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], everyone got the confirmation mails including
an usubscription explanation. And they are too brain stupid to usubscribe?
who helt your hand when subscribing?

These periodical i cannot usibscribe, this list is sooo stupid, the
mailinglistmanager simply does not work etc etc mails are just annoying.

Get a life.

-- 
* Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de *
* Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany   *
Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
(Dennis Ritchie)



Re: how can I unsubscri...

2001-07-11 Thread Charles Cazabon

John Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 HA HA!!! sometimes, charles makes me laugh so hard... by far the funniest 
 thing i've seen all day!
 
 thanx charles

I didn't write it, and as Dave said, apparently Lukas didn't, either.  I
take no credit for it.  I'm just sick of how do I unsubscribe?
questions on ezmlm lists.

Charles
-- 
---
Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED]
GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
---



Re: how can I unsubscri...

2001-07-11 Thread Robin S. Socha

* Paul Kristensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010711 11:49]:
 IF PEOPLE KNEW THE ANSWER THEY WOULD NOT ASK THE QUESTION !

  STANDARDIZED BONEHEAD REPLY FORM 

I took exception to your recent  ___ post to __. 
   (conference) 
 _X_ email 

It was (check all that apply): 

_X_ lame. 
_X_ stupid. 
_X_ boring. 
_X_ much longer than any worthwhile thought of which you may be capable. 

Your attention is drawn to the fact that: 

_X_ what you posted/said has been done before. 
(Mark only if above checked) 
___ Not only that, it was also done better the last time. 
___ your post/mail was a pathetic imitation of   _. 
   (NOTES personality) 
___ your post/mail was intended to be email/a post. 
___ your post was obviously Moderator-bait. 
___ your post referred to the conference as a Board, BBoard, BBS, newsgroup 
or Notesfile. 
___ your post contained commercial advertising. 
THE FINE FOR THIS IS $20. Please remit immediately to: 
Digital Equipment Corp. 
Network Security  Standards Patrol 
146 Main St. 
Maynard, MA 01754 
or your posting privileges will be canceled. 
___ your post/letter contained numerous spelling errors. 
(Mark only if above checked) 
___ you deliberately misspelled 4 letter Anglo-Saxon words to slither the 
note past the moderators. 
___ your post/letter contained ys substituted for random vowels. 
(Mark only if above checked) 
___ which made it unintelligible. 
___ your post/letter contained qs substituted for random ks, cs or 
cks 
___ you spell-checked but it obviously substituted incorrect word(s) with 
a similar sound/spelling for your misspelled word(s) rather than the 
correct spelling. 
___ Feeble attempt at Dan Quayle humor. 
___ your post/letter contained multiple grammatical errors. 
___ your post/letter served no purpose other than correct spelling/grammatical 
errors of another note/letter. 
_X_ YOUR POST CONTAINED EXCESSIVE CAPITALIZATION AND/OR PUNCTUATION! 
_X_ your post was a Garbage Note. 
(Mark only if above checked) 
___ 100% USDA 
_X_ CRAP (fancy CRAP, FREEWARE, Copyright (c) Northern Spy Software) 
___ CRAP (just plain CRAP) 
___ (picture of trash can) 
___ all of the above. 
___ your note was a snarf. 
(Mark only if above checked) 
___ and you got a number generally not considered snarfable. 
(Mark only if above checked) 
___ because you were too slow and missed by one. 
___ you deliberately created replies solely to get a snarf number. 
(Mark only if above checked) 
___ you still were too slow to get a snarf! 
___ these replies contain more useful content than most of your other 
notes. 
(Mark only if above checked) 
___ ...which is saying quite a bit since you deleted these replies. 
_X_ you created a new topic that should have been a reply to another note. 
(Mark only if above checked) 
_X_ Deliberately. 
_X_ You don't know the difference between Write and Reply. 
_X_ You were too lazy to look for the existing note. 
(Mark only if above checked) 
___ and you asked the moderators to find the note and move it there 
for you. 
___ you created a new topic designed to generate replies and set it /NOWRITE. 
(Mark only if above checked) 
___ you repeatedly set it /NOWRITE, after the moderators set it /WRITE. 
___ you set your note /HIDDEN simply to arouse the curiosity of other noters. 
___ 'Hit and Run' noting, you deleted your note after it generated several 
replies 
(Mark only if above checked) 
___ ...which was a good thing because you really looked like a fool. 
___ you created a new note and moved it to the 'hole' to make the replies 
look foolish. 
___ you quoted an article/letter in followup and added no new text. 
___ you quoted an article in followup and only added the line Me, too!!! 
_X_ you quoted an article/letter in followup and only added _1_ lines of text. 
___ you predicted the Imminent Death of the Net[tm]. 
(Mark only if above checked) 
___ Without adding form of representation at 11. 
___ you asked for replies via email because you don't read this group. 
_X_ you flamed someone who has been around far longer than you. 
_X_ you flamed someone who is far more intelligent and witty than you. 
___ your lines are 80 columns wide or wider. 
___ you forgot which conference this was. 
_X_ you have a lame login name. 
_X_ your machine has a stupid name. 
___ your attempt at a Notes/Mail Personal Name fell flat. 
(Mark only if above checked) 
___ Painfully. 
___ your name signed at the end contains silly 

RE: how can I unsubscri...

2001-07-11 Thread Juan Garabana Barro

An amiable person has sent me the answer. I think that it is not very 
difficult to respond that asks.

Juan.
At 17:18 11/07/2001 +0100, you wrote:
IF PEOPLE KNEW THE ANSWER THEY WOULD NOT ASK THE QUESTION !

-Original Message-
From: Juan Garabana Barro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 11 July 2001 16:39
To: Charles Cazabon
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: how can I unsubscri...


Oh my God!!. It's very difficult to you to write:
[EMAIL PROTECTED].

Thank you very much.

Juan


At 08:24 11/07/2001 -0600, you wrote:
 Juan Garabana Barro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   How can I unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
 
  From the archives:
 
 From: Lukasz Gogolewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: hi,how to unsubcribe?
 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Sigh. This has become such a FAQ that I'm reposting the detailed
 instructions:
 
 First, ask your Internet Provider to mail you an Unsubscribing Kit.
 Then follow these directions.
 
 The kit will most likely be the standard no-fault type. Depending on
 requirements, System A and/or System B can be used. When operating
 System A, depress lever and a plastic dalkron unsubscriber will be
 dispensed through the slot immediately underneath. When you have
 fastened the adhesive lip, attach connection marked by the large X
 outlet hose. Twist the silver- coloured ring one inch below the
 connection point until you feel it lock.
 
 The kit is now ready for use. The Cin-Eliminator is activated by the
 small switch on the lip. When securing, twist the ring back to its
 initial condition, so that the two orange lines meet. Disconnect. Place
 the dalkron unsubscriber in the vacuum receptacle to the rear. Activate
 by pressing the blue button.
 
 The controls for System B are located on the opposite side. The red
 release switch places the Cin-Eliminator into position; it can be
 adjusted manually up or down by pressing the blue manual release button.
 The opening is self- adjusting. To secure after use, press the green
 button, which simultaneously activates the evaporator and returns the
 Cin-Eliminator to its storage position.
 
 You may log off if the green exit light is on over the evaporator . If
 the red light is illuminated, one of the Cin-Eliminator requirements has
 not been properly implemented. Press the List Guy call button on the
 right of the evaporator . He will secure all facilities from his control
 panel.
 
 To use the Auto-Unsub, first undress and place all your clothes in the
 clothes rack. Put on the velcro slippers located in the cabinet
 immediately below. Enter the shower, taking the entire kit with you. On
 the control panel to your upper right upon entering you will see a
 Shower seal button.  Press to activate. A green light will then be
 illuminated immediately below.  On the intensity knob, select the
 desired setting. Now depress the Auto-Unsub activation lever. Bathe
 normally.
 
 The Auto-Unsub will automatically go off after three minutes unless you
 activate the Manual off override switch by flipping it up. When you
 are ready to leave, press the blue Shower seal release button. The
 door will open and you may leave. Please remove the velcro slippers and
 place them in their container.
 
 If you prefer the ultrasonic log-off mode, press the indicated blue
 button.  When the twin panels open, pull forward by rings A  B. The
 knob to the left, just below the blue light, has three settings, low,
 medium or high. For normal use, the medium setting is suggested.
 
 After these settings have been made, you can activate the device by
 switching to the ON position the clearly marked red switch. If during
 the unsubscribing operation, you wish to change the settings, place the
 manual off override switch in the OFF position. You may now make the
 change and repeat the cycle. When the green exit light goes on, you may
 log off and have lunch. Please close the door behind you.
 
 - Lucas
 
 
 
 Charles
 --
 ---
 Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
 ---




Re: how can I unsubscri...

2001-07-11 Thread Robin S. Socha

* Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010711 12:04]:

 I'm just sick of how do I unsubscribe? questions on ezmlm lists.

It sometimes amazes me how even idiot-proof software always finds a
bigger idiot. I've got roughly 16k of procmail recipes for stripping
This is the k3w1 100z3r L!$t, to unsub send mail to ... banners from
luser lists - quite annoying.

I wonder, though, why this list isn't running ezmlm-idx (he he...) or at
least extended headers. OTOH, 99% of unsuscription request come from
$LAMER_MUA lusers. Ah... the joys of luser friendly software...
headers? who needs stinking headers? let's have some features
instead... active-X anyone? some viruses? or some backdoor to go with
that, dear paying customer?. 

Sometimes, I wonder what this world would look like if someone had nuked
Redmond in '85... *sigh* EoT, please?



Re: how can I unsubscri...

2001-07-11 Thread Juan Garabana Barro

And also there are sufficiently stupid people like responding another thing 
when they know the answer.

Juan-.
At 18:26 11/07/2001 +0200, you wrote:
http://learn.to/quote

On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 05:38:49PM +0200, Juan Garabana Barro wrote:
  Oh my God!!. It's very difficult to you to write:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED].

That's the reason. Everyone on this list survived writing to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], everyone got the confirmation mails including
an usubscription explanation. And they are too brain stupid to usubscribe?
who helt your hand when subscribing?

These periodical i cannot usibscribe, this list is sooo stupid, the
mailinglistmanager simply does not work etc etc mails are just annoying.

Get a life.

--
* Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de *
* Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany   *
Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
(Dennis Ritchie)




Re: how can I unsubscri...

2001-07-11 Thread Lukas Beeler

iam not sure, what's the target behind your replys...
did this help somebody ?
no
i know that they are some stupid idiots out there in this world, but the 
best method is still to reserve your resources and ignore them.
just replying email to qmail-uns. will help more, and reserve bandwith.
Starting an flamewar is _NEVER_ a solution
thx in advance

At 11:58 11.07.2001 -0500, you wrote:
* Paul Kristensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010711 11:49]:
  IF PEOPLE KNEW THE ANSWER THEY WOULD NOT ASK THE QUESTION !

   STANDARDIZED BONEHEAD REPLY FORM
-- snip --

-- 
Lukas Maverick Beeler / Telematiker
Project: D.R.E.A.M / every.de - Your Community
Web: http://www.projectdream.org
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Begging for a control/spamlovers patch

2001-07-11 Thread torben fjerdingstad

On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:18:53PM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:43:16AM +0200, torben fjerdingstad wrote:
  - Please don't suggest post-filtering-
 
 Happy coding.
 
 You are refusing the obvious, elegant and working solution. If you don't
 want our advice, don't ask.

I did not ask for advise. I asked for a qmail-smtpd patch.

Me:  I want to do A.
You: Don't that, do B instead.

 And don't whine here if your hacked qmail-smtpd doesn't work proper.

At least allow me to get my patch reviewed for sanity, if I
have to hack it myself. Programming is not what I do.

Damn! This patch is all I need to get sendmail killed for good
on the last two mail relays.
Sendmail has that spamlovers feature, and a few people rely on it.
(sendmail read a file called spamfriend, which contains a list of
yes-I-want-my-mail-even-if-it-comes-from-a-blacklisted-IP
reciepients

-- 
Med venlig hilsen / Regards 
Netdriftgruppen / Network Management Group
UNI-C  

Tlf./Phone   +45 35 87 89 41Mail:  UNI-C
Fax. +45 35 87 89 90   Bygning 304
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   DK-2800 Lyngby




Re: Monitoring MX spools -- is it possible?

2001-07-11 Thread David U.

At 11:38 AM 7/11/2001 -0400, Dave Sill wrote:
David U. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would like the ability to give all clients backup mail service for 7 days
 and no more then say 10 megs -- whichever comes first.
 
 Since I am just accepting mail in my rcpthosts and not delivering it
 locally to a Maildir, how can I enforce such quotas?

You could scan the queue and tally up the space used by each
MX. Wouldn't it be easier to queue to a maildir spool and run
maildirsmtp periodically?

Dave,

Yes, I thought about running a cronjob through the queue to both watch 
message size totals AND message date (to check for week old mail).

Could you explain what you mean by a maildir spool and maildirsmtp?  I am 
going to try to look up info right now, but I haven't heard of maildirsmtp.

Do you think the first method (cronjob) is the easiest method?  I was 
thinking of even going through the qmail source, creating a control file 
called maybe mxhosts and then parsing the config from there and having 
qmail create a seperate hashed queue for MX forward bound mail.  It would 
be nice if I could _not_ do this and find an easier solution. ;-)

Thanks,
David U.





Re: Monitoring MX spools -- is it possible?

2001-07-11 Thread Dave Sill

[Please don't CC me.]

David U. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 11:38 AM 7/11/2001 -0400, Dave Sill wrote:
David U. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would like the ability to give all clients backup mail service for 7 days
 and no more then say 10 megs -- whichever comes first.
 
 Since I am just accepting mail in my rcpthosts and not delivering it
 locally to a Maildir, how can I enforce such quotas?

You could scan the queue and tally up the space used by each
MX. Wouldn't it be easier to queue to a maildir spool and run
maildirsmtp periodically?

Yes, I thought about running a cronjob through the queue to both watch 
message size totals AND message date (to check for week old mail).

Could you explain what you mean by a maildir spool and maildirsmtp?  I am 
going to try to look up info right now, but I haven't heard of maildirsmtp.

You could deliver the MX's mail to a maildir and use maildirsmtp from
serialmail to send the messages to them when they're back up.

Do you think the first method (cronjob) is the easiest method?

No. The maildir spool + maildirsmtp cron job would be easier. No
coding required. Determining the age and size of the spool is
trivial.

I was 
thinking of even going through the qmail source, creating a control file 
called maybe mxhosts and then parsing the config from there and having 
qmail create a seperate hashed queue for MX forward bound mail.  It would 
be nice if I could _not_ do this and find an easier solution. ;-)

Yeah. :-)

-Dave



Re: FYI: Windows is better

2001-07-11 Thread Sunil .

Well, i don't think all their software is garbage, though i agree that 
Windows NT sucked big time. Win 2000 is definitely a much better, easier and 
tidy enviroment.

Hack what the hell i am saying here. Sorry folks, i forgot this is a qmail 
list. Well, qmail is definitely a good bargain on a free OS like Linux.

Best Regards,
Sunil
From: Chris Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FYI: Windows is better
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 16:51:31 -0400

On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 02:36:54PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  MSDN is a better development environment than GNU,
  Better software tools create better software.

And yet every piece of software ever produced by Microsoft is garbage.

Please troll elsewhere.

Chris

_
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.




Re: how can I unsubscri...

2001-07-11 Thread James Stevens

Standardized Bonehead Reply Form 

Hrmphhh So I will take it for granted this is coming from a bonnifyed
bonehead then?

Be nice will ya..

Enough said I've been up almost 48hrs now upgrading three Linux Boxes..
Night all

--JT
- Original Message -
From: Lukas Beeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: how can I unsubscri...


iam not sure, what's the target behind your replys...
did this help somebody ?
no
i know that they are some stupid idiots out there in this world, but the
best method is still to reserve your resources and ignore them.
just replying email to qmail-uns. will help more, and reserve
bandwith.
Starting an flamewar is _NEVER_ a solution
thx in advance

At 11:58 11.07.2001 -0500, you wrote:
* Paul Kristensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010711 11:49]:
  IF PEOPLE KNEW THE ANSWER THEY WOULD NOT ASK THE QUESTION !

   STANDARDIZED BONEHEAD REPLY FORM
-- snip --

--
Lukas Maverick Beeler / Telematiker
Project: D.R.E.A.M / every.de - Your Community
Web: http://www.projectdream.org
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: Begging for a control/spamlovers patch

2001-07-11 Thread Adam McKenna

On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:38:29PM +0200, torben fjerdingstad wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:18:53PM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote:
  On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:43:16AM +0200, torben fjerdingstad wrote:
   - Please don't suggest post-filtering-
  
  Happy coding.
  
  You are refusing the obvious, elegant and working solution. If you don't
  want our advice, don't ask.
 
 I did not ask for advise. I asked for a qmail-smtpd patch.

So, go write one, or pay someone to do it for you.

--Adam



Re: smtproutes and virtualdomains

2001-07-11 Thread Charles Cazabon

Andy Abshagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We are in the process of moving one our clients mail from our server to
 their own exchange server.  What I need to know though is which takes
 precedence.  The virtualdomains control file or the smtproutes control file.

virtualdomains will take precedence; if it's in there, qmail knows it
has to deliver messages locally rather than remotely.  If you remove
their domain from virtualdomains and put an smtproutes entry for them
in, all mail for them which gets queued in the future will be forwarded
to them -- messages which are currently queued and awaiting local
delivery will not be affected, I think.

Note that you'll still need to have their domain in rcpthosts if you
want qmail-smtpd to accept mail destined for that domain.

Charles
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Re: Monitoring MX spools -- is it possible?

2001-07-11 Thread David U.

At 11:10 AM 7/11/2001, Dave Sill wrote:
David U. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could you explain what you mean by a maildir spool and maildirsmtp?  I am
 going to try to look up info right now, but I haven't heard of maildirsmtp.

You could deliver the MX's mail to a maildir and use maildirsmtp from
serialmail to send the messages to them when they're back up.

 Do you think the first method (cronjob) is the easiest method?

No. The maildir spool + maildirsmtp cron job would be easier. No
coding required. Determining the age and size of the spool is
trivial.

Ok, so this sounds like it might not be so bad...but here's how it would 
break down as I see it.

1) I'm gonna need a new drive and lets call it /mxhosts (maybe in a RAID 
config for safety)
2) I'll start creating /mxhosts/domain.com/Maildir with maildirmake
3) I'll add domain.com to my rcpthosts AND my virtualdomains control files 
directing mail to /mxhosts/domain.com/Maildir
4) Mail will begin to spool into those directories.
5) I can run a cron job every X minutes to try to iterate through 
/mxhosts/domains and try every $domain and send mail via maildirsmtp
6) Every X hours or every night I can run another cron that checks the size 
of /mxhosts/domain.com and the date of mail in ~/Maildir/new

How's that sound?  Am I missing anything you can think of.  As far as I 
know, mail should NEVER be in ~/Maildir/cur right?  Do you see any issue 
with having possible thousands of domains in /mxhosts?  Maybe I should do 
/mxhosts/{0-9,A-Z}/domain.com  -- based on first char of domain.

How will my system handle a bounce if the primary mail server decides to 
reject mail?  Will it just sit on my box for seven days and then get picked 
up by my yet to be written cron job?  Would it bounce to my postmaster?

This is starting to look a _lot_ easier then I first thought it would be.

Thanks,
David U.





Re: Begging for a control/spamlovers patch

2001-07-11 Thread James Stevens

Pushy little prick isn't he???

Best Advice we can give you.. Learn C code and go write your own because you
are obviously not going to listen to us. Ofcourse then again if ya got money
then hey I'm all ears what ya want and how much cash ya got? Otherwise see
ya in cyberspace.

--JT

P.S. Anyone seen a guy who goes by 'Danoo' on this list???

--JT
- Original Message -
From: Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: Begging for a control/spamlovers patch


On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:38:29PM +0200, torben fjerdingstad wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:18:53PM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote:
  On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:43:16AM +0200, torben fjerdingstad wrote:
   - Please don't suggest post-filtering-
 
  Happy coding.
 
  You are refusing the obvious, elegant and working solution. If you don't
  want our advice, don't ask.

 I did not ask for advise. I asked for a qmail-smtpd patch.

So, go write one, or pay someone to do it for you.

--Adam





Re: how can I unsubscri...

2001-07-11 Thread Henning Brauer

On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:29:35PM +0200, Lukas Beeler wrote:
 iam not sure, what's the target behind your replys...

Stop this stupid discussion _NOW_. We had it a thousand times and everything
is said.

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Re: Monitoring MX spools -- is it possible?

2001-07-11 Thread Charles Cazabon

David U. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Ok, so this sounds like it might not be so bad...but here's how it would 
 break down as I see it.
 
 1) I'm gonna need a new drive and lets call it /mxhosts (maybe in a RAID 
 config for safety)
 2) I'll start creating /mxhosts/domain.com/Maildir with maildirmake
 3) I'll add domain.com to my rcpthosts AND my virtualdomains control files 
 directing mail to /mxhosts/domain.com/Maildir
 4) Mail will begin to spool into those directories.
 5) I can run a cron job every X minutes to try to iterate through 
 /mxhosts/domains and try every $domain and send mail via maildirsmtp
 6) Every X hours or every night I can run another cron that checks the size 
 of /mxhosts/domain.com and the date of mail in ~/Maildir/new

Looks perfect to me.  If you can convince your clients to run qmail and
have qmail-qmtpd running, you could even deliver to them with
maildirqmtp (sp?).
 
 How's that sound?  Am I missing anything you can think of.  As far as I 
 know, mail should NEVER be in ~/Maildir/cur right?

qmail never touches anything in cur; just tmp and new.  MUAs should be
the only thing moving files from new to cur, and you won't have an MUA
looking into your spool maildirs.

 Do you see any issue with having possible thousands of domains in
 /mxhosts?  Maybe I should do /mxhosts/{0-9,A-Z}/domain.com  -- based
 on first char of domain.

Hashing is your friend on slow filesystems.  You'll also want to use
morercpthosts.cdb for related reasons.

 How will my system handle a bounce if the primary mail server decides to 
 reject mail?  Will it just sit on my box for seven days and then get picked 
 up by my yet to be written cron job?

As far as qmail is concerned, the message has been delivered (it's no
longer in the qmail queue).  But if your clients' primary MX is down for
a week, they've got bigger problems, and you'll probably have been
contacted by them in that period.

Charles
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Re: Help setting up Hotmail

2001-07-11 Thread Drew Raines

* Schajee Achmad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I just wanted to confirm that if someone wants to make Hotmail of his own,
 then he'll need the following:
 
 Qmail, VmailMgr, Courier (not Courier-IMAP), ucspi-tcp, daemontools,
 supervise-scripts.
 
 Courier includes SqWebMail which can be modified to suit one's needs.

You don't need courier for sqwebmail.

As far as Hotmail goes, you'll also need Windows NT, IIS, and a crap-load
of proprietary code.

-- 
Drew



[OT] Re: how can I unsubscri...

2001-07-11 Thread frob

On 11-Jul-2001 Dave Sill wrote:
 Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Sigh. This has become such a FAQ that I'm reposting the detailed
instructions:

First, ask your Internet Provider to mail you an Unsubscribing Kit.
Then follow these directions.
 
 FYI, Lukasz didn't write that, and wasn't the first person to post it
 on the qmail list.
   ... 
 I have no idea who the original author is.

It's a modified version of the zero gravity toilet instructions from
2001: A Space Odyssey, see http://www.korova.com/zgt/index.htm .
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Request for advice (qmail-remote) Part II

2001-07-11 Thread Greg Elliott

Thankyou to those who have already replied to my first posting.

However, as Charles Cazabon pointed out, I probably should have backed up a
step
to describe exactly what I am trying to achieve; and in doing so see if that
makes the 
advice offered by Arjen van Drie and Dave Sill change in any way.

Okaythe end result I would like to achieve is this:

I want to put in a single machine that acts as a central mail gateway for an
organization. All mail for
every domain related to the organization will initially arrive there and be
farmed out to the various
branch mail servers (each which have one or more individual domains).

Next I would like to offer every user in the organization a mail address
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Regardless of where they reside in the organization).

Taking the case where I have 4 users:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Located in the head office...connects directly to
the central mail server]

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [Located in branch1...connects to the branch1 mail
server and has an alternate mail
 address [EMAIL PROTECTED]]

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[Located in branch2...connects to the branch2 mail
server and have alternate mail
 addresses [EMAIL PROTECTED]]


For all branch mail users I was planning on creating .qmail files on the
central mail server that forward mail
for [EMAIL PROTECTED] through to branchuser@branch#.company.com

So far so good...that part is easy.

The problem I am trying to resolve is where user3 mails user4 at the
address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I do not want the mail to be sent back to the central mail server and then
returned to the address
[EMAIL PROTECTED].
Instead I would like the branch mail server to realise that user4 is a
local user and just deliver the mail to user4's
local mail store.

I hope that this outline clarifies exactly what I am trying to achieve, and
doesn't sound too confusing.

Thanks in advance, once again, for any advice anyone can provide.

Regards,
Greg Elliott
E-mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Qmail

2001-07-11 Thread Bob Ross

I have a small problem with something I'm trying to do.

I have an old system that I want to upgrade 400+ users and Slackware kernel
2.0.33

The new system with all the users added Slackware kernel 2.2.13

How do I move the old mail from the old system to the new and get it to take
on the user IDs etc.

I'm using the Maildir setup.

The new system starts with user IDs much higher than what are on the old
system.

Could be a little painful to move them one at a time and chown each user.

Thanks
Bob Ross





Re: Request for advice (qmail-remote) Part II

2001-07-11 Thread Chris Garrigues

 From:  Greg Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:58:33 +0930

 The problem I am trying to resolve is where user3 mails user4 at the
 address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I do not want the mail to be sent back to the central mail server and then
 returned to the address
 [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 Instead I would like the branch mail server to realise that user4 is a
 local user and just deliver the mail to user4's
 local mail store.

I suspect the easiest thing to do would be to get the qmail-ldap patches and 
install ldap.

Keep the master LDAP database on the central server and run replica databases on 
each on the branch servers.

Each server would then be able to use LDAP to determine where the mail really 
belongs.

I haven't used all the functionality that this would require, but I'm fairly 
certain that qmail-ldap has everything you'd need.

Chris

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Re: Request for advice (qmail-remote) Part II

2001-07-11 Thread Charles Cazabon

Greg Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I want to put in a single machine that acts as a central mail gateway
 for an organization. All mail for every domain related to the
 organization will initially arrive there and be farmed out to the
 various branch mail servers (each which have one or more individual
 domains).

Okay, that's easy; you put each branch domain in rcpthosts, and give it
an appropriate smtproutes entry.
 
 Next I would like to offer every user in the organization a mail address
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Regardless of where they reside in the organization).

Alright.  company.com becomes a virtual domain on the central server.
You can then forward mail from various users in it to the various branch
domains using .qmail files, or perhaps with the fastforward package.
You'd do this with something like this in virtualdomains:

company.com:alias-company

and ~alias/.qmail-company-default containing:

|fastforward
 
 The problem I am trying to resolve is where user3 mails user4 at
 the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do not want the mail to be sent back
 to the central mail server and then returned to the address
 [EMAIL PROTECTED].  Instead I would like the branch mail server
 to realise that user4 is a local user and just deliver the mail to
 user4's local mail store.

This becomes difficult with stock qmail -- you end up having to
distribute some form of mapping from users to branch domains.  It's
possible, again with fastforward or .qmail files, but it's an
administrative hassle.

LDAP comes to mind as a solution here -- either an LDAP PAM module an
unpatched qmail, or qmail-ldap.  I'm afraid I can't offer much advice on
qmail-ldap.

Charles
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RE: qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook

2001-07-11 Thread Chris Herrmann

We use O2k  courier-imap sitting on top of vpopmail - works fine. Allows
webmail to plug in nicely too.

-Original Message-
From: Ricardo SIGNES [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2001 23:04
To: David Talkington
Cc: Sam Carleton; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: qmail, Maildir, IMAP, and MS Outlook


In a message dated Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 01:33:13AM -0500, David Talkington
wrote:
 Sam Carleton wrote:
 Does anyone know of a IMAP server that get along with Outlook 2000 and
that
 works with Maildir/?
 We have no trouble with Outlook Express and Courier, and I believe
 Outlook uses the same mail subsystem as Outlook Express IF the former
 is in internet mail mode, and not MAPI (I think they call that
 corporate/workgroup mode).  MAPI is an abomination anyway.
 At least that was true of Outlook when last I dealt with it, which I'm
 happy to say was about 18 months ago.

That's true for Outlook 2000, yes.  Outlook 2002 is happy to run IMAP -and-
MAPI, so I've switched to that at work.  Sadly, we use the abomination.

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rjbs




RE: please remove me

2001-07-11 Thread Chris Herrmann

If you like, I'll unsubscribe you for a once-only offer of US$.99...

let the bidding wars begin!

-Original Message-
From: Henning Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:05
To: Qmail Mailing List
Subject: Re: please remove me


On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 09:35:51AM -0400, Webmaster wrote:
[nothing]

All you guys were able to subscribe to this list. All you guys got the
welcome message where the usubcribe procedure was described, aside the hint
to keep this message for further reference.

It's really easy to unsuibscribe, and using your brain you will succeed in
doing so. If not, i'll do that for you. Only US$ 1 per unsubscription.
If you order until tomorrow only, of course.


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RE: how can I unsubscri...

2001-07-11 Thread Chris Herrmann

alternatively, head to:

http://www.ezmlm.org

and learn how it works. Compile it on your own server, and you'll know
instantly how to subscribe and unsubscribe from any ezmlm list in the world.

-Original Message-
From: Charles Cazabon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:25
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: how can I unsubscri...


Juan Garabana Barro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can I unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

From the archives:

From: Lukasz Gogolewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: hi,how to unsubcribe?
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sigh. This has become such a FAQ that I'm reposting the detailed
instructions:

First, ask your Internet Provider to mail you an Unsubscribing Kit.
Then follow these directions.

The kit will most likely be the standard no-fault type. Depending on
requirements, System A and/or System B can be used. When operating
System A, depress lever and a plastic dalkron unsubscriber will be
dispensed through the slot immediately underneath. When you have
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outlet hose. Twist the silver- coloured ring one inch below the
connection point until you feel it lock.

The kit is now ready for use. The Cin-Eliminator is activated by the
small switch on the lip. When securing, twist the ring back to its
initial condition, so that the two orange lines meet. Disconnect. Place
the dalkron unsubscriber in the vacuum receptacle to the rear. Activate
by pressing the blue button.

The controls for System B are located on the opposite side. The red
release switch places the Cin-Eliminator into position; it can be
adjusted manually up or down by pressing the blue manual release button.
The opening is self- adjusting. To secure after use, press the green
button, which simultaneously activates the evaporator and returns the
Cin-Eliminator to its storage position.

You may log off if the green exit light is on over the evaporator . If
the red light is illuminated, one of the Cin-Eliminator requirements has
not been properly implemented. Press the List Guy call button on the
right of the evaporator . He will secure all facilities from his control
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To use the Auto-Unsub, first undress and place all your clothes in the
clothes rack. Put on the velcro slippers located in the cabinet
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the control panel to your upper right upon entering you will see a
Shower seal button.  Press to activate. A green light will then be
illuminated immediately below.  On the intensity knob, select the
desired setting. Now depress the Auto-Unsub activation lever. Bathe
normally.

The Auto-Unsub will automatically go off after three minutes unless you
activate the Manual off override switch by flipping it up. When you
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If you prefer the ultrasonic log-off mode, press the indicated blue
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After these settings have been made, you can activate the device by
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- Lucas



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Re: how can I unsubscri...

2001-07-11 Thread Bob Ross

It's in the first message you get when you subscribed.

Click on this link and send an empty email. Then do as it says to be
removed.

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Re: Reverse DNS lookups

2001-07-11 Thread pop corn

FYI, my ISP did add the reverse PTR records last night. I appreciate the 
suggestion from Andreas to get RIPE involved.

I think it was my email to RIPE, cc'ing my ISP, that was the key to making 
this happen. I am really under ARIN, not RIPE. However, my ISP is expanding 
into Europe, so I thought my ISP would be sensitive to RIPE.

Thanks for all of the feedback.


From: Andreas Grip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Reverse DNS lookups
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 15:44:36 +0200

I had problems to get my ISP to setup reverse DNS on my IP:s but then I
turned to RIPE and they sended an e-mail to my ISP. The day after that
the reverse was working :-)

So maybe you should try go through RIPE...

Andreas

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