Re: [qmailtoaster] ssl certification query

2006-05-18 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hello marrandy,

I missed you on irc by a few minutes. Anyways here is the info for ssl:
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/SSL_Related

QmailToaster can only use one ssl cert. Apache can have one ssl cert
per ip address.

Thanks,
Erik

On 5/18/06, marrandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello.

I'm curious about the certificates for multiple sites on one server e.g.
qmailtoaster.

You have multiple domains in the .com, .net and .org, none of which are
sub-domains.

You access the accounts via encypted email and/or the squirrelmail https: web
browser.

How does all this work when you want to create, and have signed, a certificate
where you can only put in a single domain ?


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Re: [qmailtoaster] ssl certification query

2006-05-18 Thread marrandy
On Thursday 18 May 2006 16:35, Erik Espinoza wrote:
 Hello marrandy,

 I missed you on irc by a few minutes. Anyways here is the info for ssl:
 http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/SSL_Related

 QmailToaster can only use one ssl cert. Apache can have one ssl cert
 per ip address.

 Thanks,
 Erik

Hi Erik.

Yes, I found that in the archives and was on the registerfly web site and 
started thinking about the other domains I will be adding and how the cert 
will effect them.

So there are Two issues ?

qmail ssl - if cert is for domain1.org and I have people also logging in with 
domain1.com, they will see a pop-up/discrepancy e.g outlook security prompt 
until they accept it permanently.

apache - 1 IP per domain/ssl cert, so only having one IP (name based) they 
will also see an alert unless they accept it as good in their browser 
certificate manager.  I could improve that by getting more IP's and more 
certificates.

Is that about right ?

Regards...Martin


So initially, I should think about my most important domain as I don't have 
multiple IP addresses yet

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Re: [qmailtoaster] ssl certification query

2006-05-18 Thread Erik Espinoza

qmail ssl - if cert is for domain1.org and I have people also logging in with
domain1.com, they will see a pop-up/discrepancy e.g outlook security prompt
until they accept it permanently.



I got my cert with one name, secure.domain.com, and I have all my
users point their clients to secure.domain.com for pop3-ssl/imap-ssl
and outgoing smtp-ssl.

No need to accept, since the RegisterFly certs are trusted by default
in Outlook and Thunderbird (and just about any mail client).


apache - 1 IP per domain/ssl cert, so only having one IP (name based) they
will also see an alert unless they accept it as good in their browser
certificate manager.  I could improve that by getting more IP's and more
certificates.


Correct.


So initially, I should think about my most important domain as I don't have
multiple IP addresses yet


Sounds good to me.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] ssl certification query

2006-05-18 Thread marrandy
On Thursday 18 May 2006 16:53, Erik Espinoza wrote:

 I got my cert with one name, secure.domain.com, and I have all my
 users point their clients to secure.domain.com for pop3-ssl/imap-ssl
 and outgoing smtp-ssl.

I've noted in some documents that you can do *.domain.com

ie.

http://www.flatmtn.com/computer/Linux-SSLCertificatesApache.html

Is this correct info ?

Regards...Martin

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Re: [qmailtoaster] ssl certification query

2006-05-18 Thread marrandy
On Thursday 18 May 2006 17:15, marrandy wrote:

Replying to myself

 I've noted in some documents that you can do *.domain.com

 ie.

 http://www.flatmtn.com/computer/Linux-SSLCertificatesApache.html

 Is this correct info ?


So could you use the same cert on two machines in that case, if you offloaded 
a subdomain  e.g.  mail.domain1.com to another machine with www.domain1.com 
on the first machine ?

Sounds probable.

Regards...Martin

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Re: [qmailtoaster] ssl certification query

2006-05-18 Thread Erik Espinoza

Yes, but buying a wildcard ssl cert is in the thousands of dollars
mark. In addition, you still can't have more than one documentroot (or
virtualhost) per ip address in apache.

Nor can you have more than one cert for qmail.

On 5/18/06, marrandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thursday 18 May 2006 16:53, Erik Espinoza wrote:

 I got my cert with one name, secure.domain.com, and I have all my
 users point their clients to secure.domain.com for pop3-ssl/imap-ssl
 and outgoing smtp-ssl.

I've noted in some documents that you can do *.domain.com

ie.

http://www.flatmtn.com/computer/Linux-SSLCertificatesApache.html

Is this correct info ?

Regards...Martin

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Re: [qmailtoaster] ssl certification query

2006-05-18 Thread marrandy
On Thursday 18 May 2006 17:22, Erik Espinoza wrote:
 Yes, but buying a wildcard ssl cert is in the thousands of dollars
 mark. In addition, you still can't have more than one documentroot (or
 virtualhost) per ip address in apache.


Knew there had to be a catch.

Ok - thanks Erik.

Regards...Martin

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Re: [qmailtoaster] ssl certification query

2006-05-18 Thread marrandy
On Thursday 18 May 2006 16:53, Erik Espinoza wrote:

 I got my cert with one name, secure.domain.com, and I have all my
 users point their clients to secure.domain.com for pop3-ssl/imap-ssl
 and outgoing smtp-ssl.


is that an alias as opposed to a FQDN ?

ie.  you computer FQDN could be april.domain.com

but if you decided it was your mail server, you could also have aliases such 
as:-

mail.domain.com

or

a.mx.domain.com

So is the 'common name'  an alias e.g. mail.domain.com or must it be the FQDN 
ie  april.domain.com ???

Regards...Martin

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Re: [qmailtoaster] ssl certification query

2006-05-18 Thread marrandy
On Thursday 18 May 2006 17:52, Erik Espinoza wrote:
   I got my cert with one name, secure.domain.com, and I have all my
   users point their clients to secure.domain.com for pop3-ssl/imap-ssl
   and outgoing smtp-ssl.

 I just created an A record in DNS called secure.domain.com. I then got
 a cert that matched secure.domain.com. I told all my clients to use
 secure.domain.com.


Ok - I understand.

It's not necessarily the FQDN of the computer, but a valid DNS entry pointing 
to that computer.

I queried registerfly.com about something else so I'll leave the cert stuff 
until tomorrow.

Thanks for the info and chat Erik.

-- 
Regards...Martin

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