date:20060605

Hey guys I need more advice concernin my cath problems. I switched to a 14 
fr. cath and it went in fine. Problem solved...I thought. Now my stream has 
become a trickle, even a drip at times. The 14 worked fine for a eeknow 
this. I have no symptoms of infection. Anyone got a clue? Thanks in advance. 
Larry Willis

Re: [QUAD-L] How many collective years of SCI do we have here?

2006-06-05 Thread tom garbisch

NOT SURE WHERE TO ADD YEARS CAUSE EVERYONE IS ADDING TO A DIFFERENT TOTAL. TOM   8YEARS IN SEPTEMBER...[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I was curious just a few days ago of how many collective SCI years are   represented here on the list. Please reply to the list with your name and   how long you have been enjoying these special challenges we all have been dealt. Add your name years and update the total...Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] 39 years     Total 39Dave www.daveoconnell.com c3-inc-1967Tom Garbisch
Mobility Impaired Association
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Re: [QUAD-L] How many collective years of SCI do we have here?




John [EMAIL PROTECTED]   30 years

In a message dated 6/4/2006 9:08:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I was curious just a few days ago of how many collective SCI years are 
represented here on the list. Please reply to the list with your name and 
how long you have been enjoying these special challenges we all have been dealt. 

Add your name years and update the total...

Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] 39 years
 
Total 39

Dave www.daveoconnell.com c3-inc-1967

Re: [QUAD-L] need more advice

2006-06-05 Thread Houston809

Try a 20cc

On 6/5/06 11:06 AM, William Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey guys I need more advice concernin my cath problems. I switched to a 14
 fr. cath and it went in fine. Problem solved...I thought. Now my stream has
 become a trickle, even a drip at times. The 14 worked fine for a eeknow
 this. I have no symptoms of infection. Anyone got a clue? Thanks in advance.
 Larry Willis

Re: [QUAD-L] How many collective years of SCI do we have here?

2006-06-05 Thread Houston809

Title: Re: [QUAD-L] How many collective years of SCI do we have here?



Houston quad since Aug. 22, 1998 itll be 8yrs in a couple mnths. I told yall 2 do math add it in I lost track of collective score

On 6/5/06 11:00 AM, Danny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'M NOT REAL COMPUTER SMART--I'M NOT SURE HOW TO ADD MY NAME OR TIME---SORRY, BUT I HAVE BEEN A QUAD 8 YEARS AND 10 MONTHS-- SO CALL IT 9 I GUESS DANNY HEARN= DDH247

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Carolyn 43 years, FL 117 Total
 
 From: Lori Michaelson 
 Date: 2006/06/04 Sun PM 11:16:11 EDT
 To: Quad 
 Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] How many collective years of SCI do we have here?
 
 
 
 I was curious just a few days ago of how many collective SCI years are 
 
 represented here on the list. Please reply to the list with your name and 
 
 how long you have been enjoying these special challenges we all have been
 dealt. 
 
 
 
 Add your name years and update the total...
 
 
 
 Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] 39 years 
 
 Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9 
 
 
 
 Total 48 
 
 Lori [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26 yrs
 
 New Total -- 74 yrs

Re: Re: [QUAD-L] How many collective years of SCI do we have here?

2006-06-05 Thread Paul Jacobson

Paul2.6 years
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: River Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Quad-l 
quad-list@eskimo.com

Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [QUAD-L] How many collective years of SCI do we have here?

43 years, carolyn, FL

From: River Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/06/05 Mon AM 09:33:30 EDT
To: Quad-l quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] How many collective years of SCI do we have here?

On Jun 5, 2006, at 1:31 AM, Ray wrote:

  I was curious just a few days ago of how many collective SCI years
 are

 represented here on the list.  Please reply to the list with your
 name and

 how long you have been enjoying these special challenges we all
 have been dealt.

 Add your name years and update the total...

 Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]   39 years

 Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED]   9

 Lori [EMAIL PROTECTED]26 yrs

 Ray.T [EMAIL PROTECTED]11 yrs.

 Total 85 yrs.

 river [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20 yrs

total 105 yrs

[QUAD-L] Total SCI years on the list.....

2006-06-05 Thread Oconnelldb




Interesting also. Do you realize that a hundred of us will 
account for about 2000 collective years of SCI living? 
Jesus, that's a long time !!! :-)


Dave 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
39 years
Eric 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
9
Michael 
Norville[EMAIL PROTECTED]  30
Houston 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
8 
yrs
Lori [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
26 yrs 
Byron 
King [EMAIL PROTECTED]3 
years
Ray.T [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
11 
yrs.
Bill: [EMAIL PROTECTED]38 
river [EMAIL PROTECTED]20 
yrs
carolyn, [EMAIL PROTECTED]43 
years, 
DANNY 
HEARN [EMAIL PROTECTED]9
John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
30 years
Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]8
Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED]8
Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]2.6
 
=

Total(15) 
285
Average = 19
Dave 
www.daveoconnell.com 
c3-inc-1967

[QUAD-L] Total SCI years on the list

2006-06-05 Thread Bobbie299


 
Interesting also. Do you realize that a hundred of us will account for about 2000 collective years of SCI living? 
Jesus, that's a long time !!! :-)


Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] 39 years
Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9
Michael Norville[EMAIL PROTECTED]  30
Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 yrs
Lori [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26 yrs 
Byron King [EMAIL PROTECTED]3 years
Ray.T [EMAIL PROTECTED]  11 yrs.
Bill: [EMAIL PROTECTED]38 
river [EMAIL PROTECTED]20 yrs
carolyn, [EMAIL PROTECTED]43 years, 
DANNY HEARN [EMAIL PROTECTED]9
John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30 years
Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]8
Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED]8
Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]2.6
Bobbie Humphreys [EMAIL PROTECTED] 33 years
 =

Total(15) 318
Average = 19
Dave http://www.daveoconnell.com/ c3-inc-1967

Re: [QUAD-L] Total SCI years on the list

2006-06-05 Thread Richard Kratt

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting also. Do you realize that a hundred of us will account for about 2000 collective years of SCI living?  Jesus, that's a long time !!! :-)   Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] 39 years Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9 Michael Norville[EMAIL PROTECTED]  30 Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8
 yrs Lori [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26 yrs  Byron King [EMAIL PROTECTED]3 years Ray.T [EMAIL PROTECTED]  11 yrs. Bill: [EMAIL PROTECTED]38  river [EMAIL PROTECTED]20 yrs carolyn, [EMAIL PROTECTED]43 years,  DANNY HEARN [EMAIL PROTECTED]9 John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30 years Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]8 Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED]8 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]2.6 Bobbie Humphreys [EMAIL PROTECTED] 33 yearsRichard Kratt [EMAIL PROTECTED]14 years  =  Total(16) 332 Average = 20 Dave http://www.daveoconnell.com/ c3-inc-1967

Re: [QUAD-L] Total SCI years on the list.....

2006-06-05 Thread Houston809

Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Total SCI years on the list.



PPPS looks like I ended up on list twice. Everybody subtrack 8 ;)

On 6/5/06 12:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Interesting also. Do you realize that a hundred of us will account for about 2000 collective years of SCI living? 
Jesus, that's a long time !!! :-)

Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] 39 years 
Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9 
Michael Norville [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 30
Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 yrs
Lori [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26 yrs 
Byron King [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 years
Ray.T [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11 yrs.
Bill: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 38 
river [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 20 yrs
carolyn, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 43 years, 
DANNY HEARN [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9
John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30 years
Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8
Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8
Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.6
=

Total (15) 285 
Average = 19
Dave www.daveoconnell.com http://www.daveoconnell.com/ c3-inc-1967

[QUAD-L] About life and length of time as a quad

2006-06-05 Thread Danny Hearn

I am thankful for this site created by Jim L. and the other sci and disabled links that have helped me and others and their families deal with all the things that go with being paralyzed. Sharing info. on here has helped me a lot-covering things such as infections,pressure sores, medications, equipment and so on. Many times we have helped each other and care-givers come up with answer's to problems even when our doctors are not alway's sure what to do. Becoming a Quad in 1997 sure changed my outlook on life and of others with disabilities, it sure gives a person more compassion and understanding of others and their needs.I used to feel strong and invincible-like nothing serious could happen to me , man, was i wrong lol. I think most healthy people don't have a clue about living with disabilities like quad-life and etc. until it happens to them or close family members. I remember a quad i used to see a few times a week that got
hurt horseback riding-- I used to think.. man why are his hands kinda curled in like that..now i know why... I guess that is why i am amused at people and their questions like---how far can you walk without your wheelchair ? I had one nurses aide tell me that if he were paralyzed he would try with all his mind and strength and make his hands at least function nornal again ( he said he thought most of us quads don't try hard enough ) LOL DUH! Anyway i'm rambling to much but at least between us all we are helping to educate some people a bit i hope.
god-bless you all Dan H.

FW: [QUAD-L] Total SCI years on the list

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Total SCI years on the list
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 13:58:56 EDT

Interesting also.   Do you realize that a hundred of us will account for
about 2000 collective years of SCI living?
Jesus, that's a long time !!!  :-)

Larry Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED]35 yrs.

Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]  39 years
Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED]  9
Michael Norville  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   30
Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED]8 yrs
 Lori [EMAIL PROTECTED]  26 yrs
Byron King  [EMAIL PROTECTED]3 years
Ray.T [EMAIL PROTECTED]   11 yrs.
Bill: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 38
river [EMAIL PROTECTED]   20 yrs
carolyn,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  43 years,
DANNY HEARN  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9
John [EMAIL PROTECTED]  30 years
Tom  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   8
Houston[EMAIL PROTECTED]  8
Paul[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2.6
Bobbie Humphreys  [EMAIL PROTECTED]33 years

=
Total(17)353
Average = 20.7
Dave http://www.daveoconnell.com/ c3-inc-1967

Re: [QUAD-L] pressure relief mattresses

2006-06-05 Thread Danny Hearn

Brien, how can you find out the prices on these mattresses and what one did you get or like ? I really need one bad but our insurance does not want to help pay on mattresses or shower chairs--in time i will have to get both one way or another.   thanks, Dan+Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Good morning,You folks may benefit from this if you are now or may, in the future, be looking for a pressure relief mattress. I recently acquired a Span - America
 mattress:http://www.spanamerica.com/index.htmlI looked at many types and none came close in quality, concept and comfort!Best,Brien

Re: [QUAD-L] About life and length of time as a quad

2006-06-05 Thread wheelchair





In a message dated 6/5/2006 1:18:10 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I guess that is why i am amused at people and their questions like---how 
  far can you walk without your wheelchair ? I had one nurses aide tell me that 
  if he were paralyzed he would try with all his mind and strength and make his 
  hands at least function nornal again ( he said he thought most of us 
  quads don't try hard enough ) LOL DUH! Anyway 
  i'm rambling to much but at least between us all we are helping to educate 
  some people a bit i hope.
   
  god-bless you all Dan H.



You never ramble when preaching. Keep on posting. It's good for 
the heart, soul and
occupational therapy.
W

[QUAD-L] Collective SCI years

2006-06-05 Thread S. Dial




 
Interesting also. Do you realize that a hundred of us will 
account for about 2000 collective years of SCI living? 
Jesus, that's a long time !!! :-)


Dave 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
39 
Eric 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
9
Michael 
Norville[EMAIL PROTECTED]  30
Houston 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
8 

Lori [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
26 
Byron 
King [EMAIL PROTECTED]3
Ray.T [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
11 

Bill: [EMAIL PROTECTED]38 
river [EMAIL PROTECTED]20 

carolyn, [EMAIL PROTECTED]43 

DANNY 
HEARN [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9
John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
30 
Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8
Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
8
Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3
Bobbie Humphreys [EMAIL PROTECTED]33
Stephanie 
20
---
Total 
339

[QUAD-L] pEER mENTORING









I want to get more active. I just talked with a rehab nurse
who is putting me on the AZ SCI Newsletter. She mentioned Peer Mentoring. Has
anyone been involved with that? Either the mentor or mentored. I know I never
wanted to talk with other quads when I was in rehab, but my friend really liked
it.



Greg

[QUAD-L] Wheelchair Sports Expo









Has any gone to, or plans on going to the next Wheelchair
Sports Expo in Mesa
in Dec?

It sounds like its more than sports. Things like van conversions,
traveling, activities, etc. 

Just wondering if they actually have booths and examples, or
just some guy talking. 

Greg

RE: [QUAD-L] Watersking group, AZ

Title: Message








Thanks, I just called them, but they only
do it once a year. And that was last weekend.

Im trying to be more active. They
did sign me up for newsletters, etc.

Thanks, Greg

















Barrows at St Josephs in Phoenix,
their rehab has a Day at the Lake at Lake Pleasant.
Byron did his in patient there. There are pictures on the walls and it looks
like they have a great time.

Re: [QUAD-L] How many collective years of SCI do we have here?





I think Dave just wanted us to reply with our years and he would
"tote up his ciphers" (Beverly hillbillies-speak) himself. Now we have
people adding their totals to different posts. It's 20 years for me
Dave.

Eric 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  
  
  I was curious just
a few days ago of how many collective SCI years are 
  represented here
on the list. Please reply to the list with your name and 
  how long you have
been enjoying these special challenges we all have been dealt. 
  
  Add your name
years and update the total...
  
  Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
39 years
  

  Total
39
  
  
  Dave www.daveoconnell.com
c3-inc-1967

Re: [QUAD-L] need more advice

Are you straight cathing,supra, or foley?  I can't remember. 


Eric

William Willis wrote:

Hey guys I need more advice concernin my cath problems. I switched to 
a 14 fr. cath and it went in fine. Problem solved...I thought. Now my 
stream has become a trickle, even a drip at times. The 14 worked fine 
for a eeknow this. I have no symptoms of infection. Anyone got a 
clue? Thanks in advance. Larry Willis

Re: [QUAD-L] Total SCI years on the list

2006-06-05 Thread Silas

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 10:58 
AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Total SCI years on the 
  list

  Interesting also. Do you realize that a hundred of us will 
  account for about 2000 collective years of SCI living? 
  Jesus, that's a long time !!! :-)

  Dave 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  39 years
  Eric 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  9
  Michael 
  Norville[EMAIL PROTECTED]  30
  Houston 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  8 
  yrs
  Lori [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  26 yrs 
  Byron 
  King [EMAIL PROTECTED]3 
  years
  Ray.T [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  11 
  yrs.
  Bill: [EMAIL PROTECTED]38 
  river [EMAIL PROTECTED]20 
  yrs
  carolyn, [EMAIL PROTECTED]43 
  years, 
  DANNY 
  HEARN [EMAIL PROTECTED]9
  John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  30 years
  Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]8
  Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED]8
  Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]2.6
  Bobbie Humphreys [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  33 years
  Silas [EMAIL PROTECTED]4 
  =

  Total(15) 
  322
  Average = 19
  Dave 
  http://www.daveoconnell.com/ 
  c3-inc-1967

Re: [QUAD-L] Collective SCI years

2006-06-05 Thread Jkrocks




In a message dated 6/5/2006 3:11:35 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Interesting also. Do you realize that a hundred of us will 
  account for about 2000 collective years of SCI living? 
  Jesus, that's a long time !!! :-)
  
  Dave 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  39 
  Eric 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  9
  Michael 
  Norville[EMAIL PROTECTED]  30
  Houston 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  8 
  
  Lori [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  26 
  Byron 
  King [EMAIL PROTECTED]3
  Ray.T [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   
  11 
  
  Bill: [EMAIL PROTECTED]38 
  river [EMAIL PROTECTED]20 
  
  carolyn, [EMAIL PROTECTED]43 
  
  DANNY 
  HEARN [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9
  John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  30 
  Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8
  Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  8
  Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3
  Bobbie Humphreys [EMAIL PROTECTED]33
  Stephanie 
  20
  Jim 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]6
-

  Total 
  345

RE: [QUAD-L] Collective SCI years

2006-06-05 Thread poajoan













Interesting
also. Do you realize that a hundred of us will account for about
2000 collective years of SCI living? 

Jesus, that's
a long time !!! :-)



Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
39 

Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED]
9

Michael
Norville[EMAIL PROTECTED] 30

Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
8 

Lori [EMAIL PROTECTED]
26 

Byron King [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3

Ray.T [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
11


Bill: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
38


river [EMAIL PROTECTED]
20 

carolyn, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 43 

DANNY
HEARN [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9

John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 30 

Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8

Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
8

Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3

Bobbie
Humphreys [EMAIL PROTECTED]33

Stephanie
20

Joan Anglin [EMAIL PROTECTED]  15

---

Total
354



Guess Ill do this right LOL

Re: [QUAD-L] Re: (no subject)





Have you ever had the unfortunate pleasure of just lying there unable
to breathe until you lose consciousness? If not, it's an extremely
unpleasant way to die. 

Eric 

Silas wrote:

  
  
  
  LOL. I don't! But im usally able
to make it back to the house if something happens, I can breath off for
awhile. Shit if something happens while im out on the farm at least
ill die doing what I enjoy, hell getting in a car is taking a big
chance! 
  Silas 
  
-
Original Message - 
From:
Eric
Olson 
To:
Silas

Cc:
quad-list@eskimo.com

Sent:
Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:34 AM
Subject:
Re: [QUAD-L] Re: (no subject)


I'm confused. How can be out by yourself? It doesn't sound
like you have the ability to take care of your vent circuit coming
apart or the ability to connect an ambu bag by yourself.

Re: [QUAD-L] About life and length of time as a quad

Wish I had a dollar for every idiot I've met that thought I just wasn't 
trying hard enough. 


Eric

Danny Hearn wrote:

   I  am thankful for this site created by Jim L. and the other 
sci and disabled links that have helped me and others and their 
families deal with all the things that go with being paralyzed. 
Sharing info. on here has helped me a lot-covering things such as 
infections,pressure sores, medications, equipment and so on. Many 
times we have helped each other and care-givers come up with answer's 
to problems even when our doctors are not alway's sure what to do. 
Becoming a Quad in 1997 sure changed my outlook on life and of others 
with disabilities, it sure gives a person more compassion and 
understanding of others and their needs.I used to feel strong and 
invincible-like nothing serious could happen to me , man, was i wrong 
lol. I think most healthy people don't have a clue about living with 
disabilities like quad-life and etc. until it happens to them or close 
family members. I remember a quad i used to see a few times a week 
that got hurt horseback riding-- I used to think.. man why are his 
hands kinda curled in like that..now i know why ... I guess that is 
why i am amused at people and their questions like---how far can you 
walk without your wheelchair ? I had one nurses aide tell me that if 
he were paralyzed he would try with all his mind and strength and make 
his hands at least function nornal again  ( he said he thought most of 
us quads don't try hard enough ) LOL  DUH !Anyway i'm rambling to 
much but at least between us all we are helping to educate some people 
a bit i hope.
 
god-bless you all Dan H.

FW: Re: [QUAD-L] need more advice

Straight. I'd been using 18fr. til it became impossible. Now I'm down to a 
12fr.

From: Eric Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: William Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] need more advice
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 15:33:54 -0500

Are you straight cathing,supra, or foley?  I can't remember.

Eric

William Willis wrote:

Hey guys I need more advice concernin my cath problems. I switched to a 14 
fr. cath and it went in fine. Problem solved...I thought. Now my stream 
has become a trickle, even a drip at times. The 14 worked fine for a 
eeknow this. I have no symptoms of infection. Anyone got a clue? 
Thanks in advance. Larry Willis

FW: Re: [QUAD-L] About life and length of time as a quad

Same here. Apparently if we crips only had sufficient willpower, we'd all be 
doing cartwheels.

From: Eric Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Danny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] About life and length of time as a quad
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 16:01:56 -0500

Wish I had a dollar for every idiot I've met that thought I just wasn't 
trying hard enough.

Eric

Danny Hearn wrote:

   I  am thankful for this site created by Jim L. and the other sci 
and disabled links that have helped me and others and their families deal 
with all the things that go with being paralyzed. Sharing info. on here 
has helped me a lot-covering things such as infections,pressure sores, 
medications, equipment and so on. Many times we have helped each other and 
care-givers come up with answer's to problems even when our doctors are 
not alway's sure what to do. Becoming a Quad in 1997 sure changed my 
outlook on life and of others with disabilities, it sure gives a person 
more compassion and understanding of others and their needs.I used to feel 
strong and invincible-like nothing serious could happen to me , man, was i 
wrong lol. I think most healthy people don't have a clue about living with 
disabilities like quad-life and etc. until it happens to them or close 
family members. I remember a quad i used to see a few times a week that 
got hurt horseback riding-- I used to think.. man why are his hands kinda 
curled in like that..now i know why ... I guess that is why i am amused at 
people and their questions like---how far can you walk without your 
wheelchair ? I had one nurses aide tell me that if he were paralyzed he 
would try with all his mind and strength and make his hands at least 
function nornal again  ( he said he thought most of us quads don't try 
hard enough ) LOL  DUH !Anyway i'm rambling to much but at least 
between us all we are helping to educate some people a bit i hope.

   god-bless you all Dan H.

Re: [QUAD-L] Re: (no subject)

2006-06-05 Thread Silas




LOL. No!!! And don't won't too 
either! Im going back to Sheapard on the 15th to get aevaluation for 
a new procedure to get off this dam vent, its like the phrinc nerve but 
different they stimulate the muscle. Ill know more when I get back, ill 
keep you imformed. 
Silas 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Eric Olson 
  
  To: Silas 
  Cc: quad-List@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 1:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Re: (no 
  subject)
  Have you ever had the unfortunate pleasure of just lying there 
  unable to breathe until you lose consciousness? If not, it's an 
  extremely unpleasant way to die. Eric Silas wrote:
  
LOL. I don't! But im usally able to 
make it back to the house if something happens, I can breath off for 
awhile. Shit if something happens while im out on the farm at least 
ill die doing what I enjoy, hell getting in a car is taking a big 
chance! 
Silas 

  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Eric Olson 
  
  To: 
  Silas 
  
  Cc: 
  quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: 
  Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:34 AM
  Subject: 
  Re: [QUAD-L] Re: (no subject)
  I'm confused. How can be out by yourself? 
  It doesn't sound like you have the ability to take care of your vent 
  circuit coming apart or the ability to connect an ambu bag by 
  yourself.

Re: [QUAD-L] How many collective years of SCI do we have here?

2006-06-05 Thread StubanRN




I don't have a SCI but I am a quad equivalent to C2. 11 years. Sandy 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [QUAD-L] pEER mENTORING





I used to do peer counseling until I had a difference of opinion
with some idiots from the NCSIA Milwaukee chapter years ago. This was
like 10-15 years ago and these idiots were actually telling patients
that a cure was just around the corner. Something I didn't believe nor
would I tell patients. That just makes patients think they don't have
to learn all this quad stuff because they are going to be cured soon
anyway. I suppose I should check back. 

Eric 

Greg wrote:

  
  
  
  
  I want to get more
active. I just talked with a rehab nurse
who is putting me on the AZ SCI Newsletter. She mentioned Peer
Mentoring. Has
anyone been involved with that? Either the mentor or mentored. I know I
never
wanted to talk with other quads when I was in rehab, but my friend
really liked
it.
  
  Greg

[QUAD-L] The Overnight Trip

2006-06-05 Thread StubanRN




What do you guys do about a mattress when you make that overnight trip??

[QUAD-L] Suffocation

2006-06-05 Thread S. Dial




Yup, when I became 
stricken with TM I kept telling the nursing and respiratory staff I couldn't 
breathe but they refused to believe me (cuz my color was good??) until I died 
and they had to resusitate me then put me on a vent that I stayed on for 6 
months. But, the actual dying part wasn't so bad I just got very tired of 
struggling and simply lost conciousness and poof I was gone.

Steph

Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] About life and length of time as a quad

2006-06-05 Thread RollinOn







Wow what a breakthrough, I'm going to start willing myself today!
Good bye wheelchair! lol
These people extremely ignorant and thoughtless.

Mark

---Original Message---


From: William Willis
Date: 06/05/06 16:07:47
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] About life and length of time as a quad

Same here. Apparently if we crips only had sufficient willpower, we'd all be
doing cartwheels.


From: Eric Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Danny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] About life and length of time as a quad
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 16:01:56 -0500

Wish I had a dollar for every idiot I've met that thought I just wasn't
trying hard enough.

Eric

Danny Hearn wrote:

Iam thankful for this site created by Jim L. and the other sci
and disabled links that have helped me and others and their families deal
with all the things that go with being paralyzed. Sharing info. on here
has helped me a lot-covering things such as infections,pressure sores,
medications, equipment and so on. Many times we have helped each other and
care-givers come up with answer's to problems even when our doctors are
not alway's sure what to do. Becoming a Quad in 1997 sure changed my
outlook on life and of others with disabilities, it sure gives a person
more compassion and understanding of others and their needs.I used to feel
strong and invincible-like nothing serious could happen to me , man, was i
wrong lol. I think most healthy people don't have a clue about living with
disabilities like quad-life and etc. until it happens to them or close
family members. I remember a quad i used to see a few times a week that
got hurt horseback riding-- I used to think.. man why are his hands kinda
curled in like that..now i know why ... I guess that is why i am amused at
people and their questions like---how far can you walk without your
wheelchair ? I had one nurses aide tell me that if he were paralyzed he
would try with all his mind and strength and make his hands at least
function nornal again( he said he thought most of us quads don't try
hard enough ) LOLDUH !Anyway i'm rambling to much but at least
between us all we are helping to educate some people a bit i hope.

god-bless you all Dan H.




.

Re: [QUAD-L] Suffocation

2006-06-05 Thread RollinOn







It isn'ta bad feeling but it's definitely a strange feeling, been there twice.


Mark

---Original Message---


From: S. Dial
Date: 06/05/06 16:45:44
To: Eric Olson; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Suffocation

Yup, when I became stricken with TM I kept telling the nursing and respiratory staff I couldn't breathe but they refused to believe me (cuz my color was good??) until I died and they had to resusitate me then put me on a vent that I stayed on for 6 months. But, the actual dying part wasn't so bad I just got very tired of struggling and simply lost conciousness and poof I was gone.

Steph

Re: [QUAD-L] The Overnight Trip

2006-06-05 Thread RollinOn







I just tough it out if it's just 1 night.

Mark

---Original Message---


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 06/05/06 16:42:07
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] The Overnight Trip

What do you guys do about a mattress when you make that overnight trip??

Re: [QUAD-L] The Overnight Trip

2006-06-05 Thread Bobbie299





What do you guys do about a mattress when you make that overnight trip?? 
I use to bring a very large wedge because I can't lay flat flat. At some places, if the mattress is hard, I fold up the bed cover a few times (or use the cover for the bed next to me -- or both) and lay on that to make it softer. 
 Now I bring my Roho mattress from home. And for the night drangige bag, I hang it inside the hotel garbage can.
 Bobbie

Re: [QUAD-L] pEER mENTORING

2006-06-05 Thread Bobbie299




I want to get more active. I just talked with a rehab nurse who is putting me on the AZ SCI Newsletter. She mentioned Peer Mentoring. Has anyone been involved with that? Either the mentor or mentored. I know I never wanted to talk with other quads when I was in rehab, but my friend really liked it.
 As a matter of fact, this is pretty funny, I am officially "banned" from Kessler's peer mentoring program. Funny because I brought the program to life in 1992 after 15 years of fighting the administration to start one. Kessler killed the "peer counseling" program 2 years ago then started up a "peer mentoring" program with 5 hoops a volunteer SCI must go through to talk to newly injured SCI's. Kessler is only "training" new people with their "rules" and banning the old SCI people, like me.
 Bobbie ~ peer counselor for over 30 years

[QUAD-L] morphine pump









I am taking MS Contin, 50mg, 3x a day. Its not
working as well. Its ok during the day, but in the evenings my back
really hurts. It has helped my arms a lot though. But now my doc suggested the
Morphine Pump. Anyone else use it? How well do you like it? I worry it will
have problems in the future. How bad or risky is the operation?

Thanks,

Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] pEER mENTORING

2006-06-05 Thread Stacy Harim





I've never been involved but some woman came into my room while I was still 
getting some movement and feeling back from the encephalomyelitis and basically 
told me that I should learn to deal with the fact that I will always be 
handicapped. What wonderful words to tell someone that wasn't finished 
giving up on recovery. Damn, that is what kept me alive to begin with and 
the recovery since I got sick. What those words sounded like to me was I 
should give up. If I gave up early and came to grips I will always be on a 
vent and never have any sort of movement I might not be where I am now. I 
just didn't have the damage on the upper cord that I do now that keeps me 
paraplegic but if I just accepted where I was back when I couldn't move at all, 
I probably would still not be moving. Anyhow I'm thinking to myself what 
do you know? You can just walk out of this room, how can you have any 
compassion.

When I got to the point there was no more recovery to be had because of the 
left over damage, I really thinkI could have benefited from some sort of 
peer counseling. I did meet one paraplegic that was outpatient while I was 
inpatient and I met him while doing rehabilitation. His therapist 
introduced us. It was refreshing to meet another paraplegic but he was in 
a place that I wanted to surpass. I was bound and determinedI was 
going to live on my own and he lived with his parents. Not that it's bad 
but I wanted to meet a paraplegic that was on their own, working, driving, etc. 
because I wanted mentoring on that sort of thing because that is where I wanted 
to be. 

I think that all rehab facilities should have a mentoring list of those 
that agree to be a mentor to those recently injured. I didn't know of any 
other para's or quad's except for the paraplegic and a kid that was quadraplegic 
from the parallelbars while at a competition for school. He did give 
me good advise though. He told me not to take any crap from the nurses or 
aids. He said "It's YOUR body and you know what's best" 

Stacy

  - Original Messagie - 
  From: Greg 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 4:26 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] pEER mENTORING
  
  
  I want to get more active. I just 
  talked with a rehab nurse who is putting me on the AZ SCI Newsletter. She 
  mentioned Peer Mentoring. Has anyone been involved with that? Either the 
  mentor or mentored. I know I never wanted to talk with other quads when I was 
  in rehab, but my friend really liked it.
  
  Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Collective SCI years

2006-06-05 Thread Stacy Harim





5 memorial weekend. 

  From: Mr LESTER SMITH 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 6:16 PM
  Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Collective SCI 
  years
  
  
  I add another 17 
  years to the list.
  
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 4:39 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Collective SCI 
  years
  
  
  In a message dated 
  6/5/2006 3:11:35 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  

Interesting 
also. Do you realize that a hundred of us will account for about 
2000 collective years of SCI living? 


Jesus, that's a 
long time !!! :-)


Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
39 
Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
9
Michael 
Norville[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
30
Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
8 
Lori 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
26 
Byron 
King [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
3
Ray.T 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
11 

Bill: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
38 

river [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
20 

carolyn, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
43 
DANNY 
HEARN [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
9
John 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 30 
Tom 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
8
Houston 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
8
Paul 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
3
Bobbie 
Humphreys [EMAIL PROTECTED]33
Stephanie 
20
Jim 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]6
Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
17
Stacy5
  
  -
  
Total 
345+17=362
  
  367

Re: [QUAD-L] About life and length of time as a quad

2006-06-05 Thread Stacy Harim





Oh, I hate it when people once were paralyzed and then recovered gradually 
say it's because of their hard work and determination. I'm like I didn't 
try so I'm still in the chair? More like, how about your cord wasn't 
damaged like those that are still in the chair. Give me a F...in break is 
what I would love to tell those people. 

The stupid question just make me laugh.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Olson 
  To: Danny Hearn 
  Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 5:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] About life and 
  length of time as a quad
  Wish I had a dollar for every idiot I've met that thought I 
  just wasn't trying hard enough. EricDanny Hearn 
  wrote: I am 
  thankful for this site created by Jim L. and the other  sci and 
  disabled links that have helped me and others and their  families deal 
  with all the things that go with being paralyzed.  Sharing info. on 
  here has helped me a lot-covering things such as  infections,pressure 
  sores, medications, equipment and so on. Many  times we have helped 
  each other and care-givers come up with answer's  to problems even 
  when our doctors are not alway's sure what to do.  Becoming a Quad in 
  1997 sure changed my outlook on life and of others  with disabilities, 
  it sure gives a person more compassion and  understanding of others 
  and their needs.I used to feel strong and  invincible-like nothing 
  serious could happen to me , man, was i wrong  lol. I think most 
  healthy people don't have a clue about living with  disabilities like 
  quad-life and etc. until it happens to them or close  family members. 
  I remember a quad i used to see a few times a week  that got hurt 
  horseback riding-- I used to think.. man why are his  hands kinda 
  curled in like that..now i know why ... I guess that is  why i am 
  amused at people and their questions like---how far can you  walk 
  without your wheelchair ? I had one nurses aide tell me that if  he 
  were paralyzed he would try with all his mind and strength and make  
  his hands at least function nornal again ( he said he thought most of 
   us quads don't try hard enough ) LOL DUH ! 
  Anyway i'm rambling to  much but at least between us all we are 
  helping to educate some people  a bit i 
  hope. 
   god-bless you all Dan H.

Re: [QUAD-L] The Overnight Trip

2006-06-05 Thread ~LittleQuad~

tough it out... usually take some pads...and my pillows.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  What do you guys do about a mattress when you make that overnight trip??

Re: [QUAD-L] Collective SCI years

2006-06-05 Thread Tim Thompson


367+10=377yrs

Stunt

On 6/5/06, Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



5 memorial weekend.
From: Mr LESTER SMITH
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 6:16 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Collective SCI years




I add another 17 years to the list.





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 4:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Collective SCI years




In a message dated 6/5/2006 3:11:35 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



Interesting also.   Do you realize that a hundred of us will account for
about 2000 collective years of SCI living?


Jesus, that's a long time !!!  :-)




Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 39

Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED]
9

Michael Norville  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   30

Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED]8

 Lori [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  26

Byron King  [EMAIL PROTECTED]3

Ray.T [EMAIL PROTECTED]   11

Bill: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 38

river [EMAIL PROTECTED]   20

carolyn,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  43

DANNY HEARN  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  9

John [EMAIL PROTECTED]  30

Tom  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   8

Houston[EMAIL PROTECTED]   8

Paul[EMAIL PROTECTED]
3

Bobbie Humphreys  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 33

Stephanie
20

Jim   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
6

Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED]17


Stacy
 5


-


Total
 345+17=362



 367

Re: [QUAD-L] pEER mENTORING

2006-06-05 Thread Lori Michaelson







I wish I had more time on my hands Greg to do much more but just got involved in major projects.

I've been on both ends of "peer mentoring" or "peer counseling." I'm closing down the PC for the night but will
email you again ASAP. Phoenix should have tons of opportunity.

Bye4today,

Lori

---Original Message---


From: Greg
Date: 06/05/06 13:27:52
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] pEER mENTORING


I want to get more active. I just talked with a rehab nurse who is putting me on the AZ SCI Newsletter. She mentioned Peer Mentoring. Has anyone been involved with that? Either the mentor or mentored. I know I never wanted to talk with other quads when I was in rehab, but my friend really liked it.

Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Collective SCI years

2006-06-05 Thread Mack Johnson


me add 23yrs  ;)

On Jun 5, 2006, at 5:35 PM, Tim Thompson wrote:


367+10=377yrs

Stunt

On 6/5/06, Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



5 memorial weekend.
From: Mr LESTER SMITH
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 6:16 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Collective SCI years




I add another 17 years to the list.





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 4:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Collective SCI years




In a message dated 6/5/2006 3:11:35 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



Interesting also.   Do you realize that a hundred of us will  
account for

about 2000 collective years of SCI living?


Jesus, that's a long time !!!  :-)




Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 39

Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED]
9

Michael Norville  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   30

Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED]8

 Lori [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  26

Byron King  [EMAIL PROTECTED]3

Ray.T [EMAIL PROTECTED]   11

Bill: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 38

river [EMAIL PROTECTED]   20

carolyn,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  43

DANNY HEARN  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  9

John [EMAIL PROTECTED]  30

Tom  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   8

Houston[EMAIL PROTECTED]   8

Paul[EMAIL PROTECTED]
3

Bobbie Humphreys  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 33

Stephanie
20

Jim   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
6

Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED]17


Stacy
 5


-


Total
 345+17=362



 367





Mack Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://macknezjohnson.com

Re: [QUAD-L] About life and length of time as a quad

You wouldn't believe how often I'm told that God would make me walk if I truely believed. All I have to do is have faith. Untill then, I'm just some damn heathen in a wheelchair taking the good parking places from all the people who prayed for a nice place to park. I just don't fit into these cults. I don't know why Benny Hinn doesn't allow SCI's into his healings, but I doubt that with all his inside conections with god, that fool couldn't heal a mild case of bad breath.

john
In a message dated 6/5/2006 5:02:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wish I had a dollar for every idiot I've met that thought I just wasn't trying hard enough. EricDanny Hearn wrote:I am thankful for this site created by Jim L. and the other sci and disabled links that have helped me and others and their families deal with all the things that go with being paralyzed. Sharing info. on here has helped me a lot-covering things such as infections,pressure sores, medications, equipment and so on. Many times we have helped each other and care-givers come up with answer's to problems even when our doctors are not alway's sure what to do. Becoming a Quad in 1997 sure changed my outlook on life and of others with disabilities, it sure gives a person more compassion and understanding of others and their needs.I used to feel strong and invincible-like nothing serious could happen to me , man, was i wrong lol. I think most healthy people don't have a clue about living with disabilities like quad-life and etc. until it happens to them or close family members. I remember a quad i used to see a few times a week that got hurt horseback riding-- I used to think.. man why are his hands kinda curled in like that..now i know why ... I guess that is why i am amused at people and their questions like---how far can you walk without your wheelchair ? I had one nurses aide tell me that if he were paralyzed he would try with all his mind and strength and make his hands at least function nornal again ( he said he thought most of us quads don't try hard enough ) LOL DUH ! Anyway i'm rambling to much but at least between us all we are helping to educate some people a bit i hope. god-bless you all Dan H.

Re: [QUAD-L] Suffocation




Steph,, Did you see a white light? i never saw a white light. Everyone said there would be a white light. I'd meet dead relatives,, or at least St. Peter. Honest,, it was just poof..no pain, no more hassle, nothing. I think the dying part was almost comfortable compared to the injury that got me there and oohhmmyy,, it hurts to be brought back! I have my DNR filled out now.

john


In a message dated 6/5/2006 5:45:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Yup, when I became stricken with TM I kept telling the nursing and respiratory staff I couldn't breathe but they refused to believe me (cuz my color was good??) until I died and they had to resusitate me then put me on a vent that I stayed on for 6 months. But, the actual dying part wasn't so bad I just got very tired of struggling and simply lost conciousness and poof I was gone.

Steph

Re: [QUAD-L] morphine pump