FW: [QUAD-L] AB's opening doors like their playing twister

2007-12-31 Thread William Willis
LOL!!!  Exactly!


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:12:18 -0500To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
[QUAD-L] AB's opening doors like their playing twister

What is it that when an ab open's a door they think two doors are better THEN 
they try and stretch their bodies to hold both doors and now it is impossible 
to get through the door? All I need is one door open, a very simple easy task. 
Or they very nicely open the door and stand leaning against it so if I did go 
through the door I would run over their feet?
  Bobbie


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[QUAD-L] AB's opening doors like their playing twister

2007-12-31 Thread wheelchair
Profound human logic.  If one door is good two must be  better.
Often, they are overwhelmed with profound courtesy in showing compassion  for 
you and your chair.
Opening one door is for you.  Opening the second door is for your  wheelchair.
 
And then reality sets in...
Best Wishes
W
 
 
In a message dated 12/31/2007 8:36:02 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

LOL!!!  Exactly!



 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:12:18 -0500
To:  quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] AB's opening doors like their  playing twister

What is it that when an ab open's a door they think two doors are  better 
THEN they try and stretch their bodies to hold both doors and now it  is 
impossible to get through the door? All I need is one door open, a very  simple 
easy 
task. Or they very nicely open the door and stand leaning  against it so if I 
did go through the door I would run over their  feet?
   Bobbie






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[QUAD-L] Van for sale

2007-12-31 Thread Bill Jenkins
BlankA friend of mine here in Leesburg, FL has a van for sale.  Details are 
below.  Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more info.

Bill
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Age 57
Leesburg, FL
Life is too short for long pity parties. Get busy living, or get busy dying.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: MikeyBird3
Sent: 12/29/2007 5:24:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
Subj: van info


  1993 Dodge Caravan, 32,000 original miles, $6,500  vmi conversion.  power 
sliding door, power ramp, 10in dropped floor.  runs great looks good. New tires 
put on in September.

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[QUAD-L] Re: the quad list

2007-12-31 Thread wheelchair


 
In a message dated 12/31/2007 9:33:24 A.M. Central Standard Time, GHenry1  
writes:

Good evening,
 
I was just checking if anyone posted on the quad site over  Christmas?
 
I still am having problems getting any postings, as I have not seen any  for 
more than two weeks.
 
Is anyone posting any longer?
 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Honda Odessey

2007-12-31 Thread Paul Jacobson
Hi,  it is a minivanand I have the Permobil c500.it will fit.
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Honda Odessey


  Is a Honda Odyssey a minivan?  Does anybody have a web site with a picture of 
one.
  I wonder if they Permobile will set fit in a minivan, does anyone know or can 
relate their experiences.  I wrote a local company that deals with vans for 
persons with disabilities with questions than they did not answer any of them I 
guess I just need to call them.  I think they were called mobility first, but 
I'm not sure.  I have only vote on their web site one time.  Every time since I 
have written them, I get monthly e-mails

  it will be a long time before, I will probably be able to get another van as 
I have a 93 Ford Econoline.  But I always like to gather information so I will 
be ready when the opportunity for me to look for another is available.  I 
always have to buy used vans.

  Thank you for the information any of you can provide.
  Dana

  a lot of people like foreign cars I have never had the opportunity to have 
one.






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Re: [QUAD-L] Van for sale

2007-12-31 Thread Oconnelldb
 
 
wow that sounds great.  I have to get the cable in my  door fixed.  it broke 
and my door gets jammed on the leftovers.  if it  broke clean, I could live 
with it but now that it jams, I get  stuck.
Dave
 
 
In a message dated 12/31/2007 7:59:37 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
A friend of mine here in  Leesburg, FL has a van for sale.  Details are 
below.  Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  for more  info.
 
Bill
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Age 57
Leesburg,  FL
Life is too short for long pity parties. Get busy living, or get busy  dying.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  
To:  MikeyBird3
Sent: 12/29/2007 5:24:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
Subj: van  info



1993 Dodge Caravan, 32,000 original miles, $6,500  vmi  conversion.  power 
sliding door, power ramp, 10in dropped floor.   runs great looks good. New 
tires 
put on in  September.







 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Honda Odessey

2007-12-31 Thread airgantone

? Hey, Paul.
I just bought an '07 Odyssey in August.? I'm in a Permobil c500 stander, and 
all is well.? I'm not driving yet though.? I need the EMC controls and the EMC 
people won't allow their vendors to install those on a Honda Odyssey; they r 
saying I have to send my van down to them.? Which is another issue in itself.? 
Plus it cost an arm and leg.


 How r u driving?

Larry
C5


 

-Original Message-
From: Paul Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com; Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:00 am
Subject: [QUAD-L] Honda Odessey









Anyone got one?  I'm thinking about getting an '07any 
thoughts...I'll be driving it.?
?

Thanks!?

Paul c5/6?

- Original Message - 
From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

To: quad-list@eskimo.com?

Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 5:43 PM?

Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] brands of wheelchairs?
?


 I'm with you Ron. The ibot is nothing but an expensive novelty.?

?

 Dan?

?

?

 At 05:13 PM 12/30/2007 -0800, RONALD L PRACHT said something that elicited 
 my response:?

?

Hello,?

?

In the car business you have ford, chevy, ford, 
dodge...toyotawhich are known manufacturers that have proven 
technology and any mechanic works on these. The you have saab, audi, 
volvo, scion, saturn, fiat, mercedesthese car may be decent but 
you cant get parts very easy and when u do its crazy high priced.?

?

?

The wheelchair business is the same you got invacare, quickie, 
tilite...then you got the unknowns ibot, permobile and several more.?

?

When you buy a car or wheelchair you have to think about can i get parts 
for this chair, how easy, how much, from which vendor.?

?

Quickie is the most proven, known, trusted manufacturerparts are 
plentifulanyone works on them.?

?

I would never subject myself to the hell that buying an unknown is going 
to be...the ibot is cool to watch but too much technology to keep 
going in everyday life and come on are u really going up thirty stairs 
with it.i think if you went up the thirty stairs 5 times a day you 
would have a broken chair and a couple broken legs.?

?

ron c7?

?

 ?



 



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[QUAD-L] Permobils Minivans

2007-12-31 Thread Lori Michaelson
I have had my Permobil Chairman since January of 1999.  I never got the
height up and down feature because that is usually for people who have the
ability to get something out of a cupboard or a microwave or something like
that.  I don't have enough movement so I skipped that feature.  But I do
have the till and recline.

Now I regret not having gotten the up and down feature because that is the
easiest way to take out or put in new batteries.  The two times that I have
had to have the batteries replaced... it hasn't been a big deal except that
I have to get out of the chair and spend that time in bed because they have
to turn the chair on its side or whatever to change the batteries.

The original vendor who sold me the chair also did a bait and switch on me.
But I did not realize it until we moved way out here to Arizona from New
York State.  They were supposed to have the gel cell batteries but the first
time I needed the batteries replaced I found out that they had put in acid
cell batteries.  That was one lie.  There were a couple of others but I have
forgotten them now.  Once they sell you the chair they think their
responsibilities and obligations over many-a-time.

Like most chairs it can sometimes take up to six months to get used to
the chair and it did for me.  It is a very cheaply made chair however and I
am eligible for a new one, and have been, for the last five years but have
not had a very good reason to go for it quite yet.

I had a full sized Ford Econoline 150 *just before* I got my Permobil.  And
the van had the raised doors so I scooted right in with my old chair which
was a Fortress Scientific (had it for 12 years).  It was not long afterward
that I decided I wanted a minivan after having three full-sized vans prior.
Again, when I firmly decided that that is what I wanted (and I tried out the
minivan first)... I still had my old wheelchair and was therefore easily
able to scoot right in because it did not fit as high as Permobils do.

For me, the height of the Permobils are the biggest problem.  I could/can't
no longer scoot right in my minivan.  And still can't without ducking my
head or someone has to stand behind me and pushed me forward a little bit.
It is more difficult when the vehicle is parked in a flat driveway or a
parking lot because the ramp goes upward (of course) even though it is not
very steep at all.

So many times... when going to a store of some kind... I will have whoever
is driving me leave me off at the curb.  When pulling alongside a curb...
the van ramp goes straight into the van so there is no slope to go up
whatsoever.

And I JUST fit under kitchen tables, restaurant tables, etc. etc. etc..  But
I have to have the chair tilted all the way down to the upright position and
I would rather recline (* actually need to* for comfort and to alleviate
pain) for a little bit of comfort.  Therefore... I always eat on my lap tray
at home.  And we did not go out to eat hardly and if we go to other peoples
houses to eat... I just carry along my lap tray.

I haven't had too many problems getting my Permobile repaired but I know
that it is not as easy as the other two wheelchairs I have since my injury.
I have always kept up with the threads here about chairs and bookmarked many
of them for when the time comes for me to get a new one.

Happy new year to everyone!

Lori Michaelson
C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
Tucson, AZ


On Dec 30, 2007 11:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Is a Honda Odyssey a minivan?  Does anybody have a web site with a
 picture of one.
 I wonder if they Permobile will set fit in a minivan, does anyone know or
 can relate their experiences.  I wrote a local company that deals with vans
 for persons with disabilities with questions than they did not answer any of
 them I guess I just need to call them.  I think they were called mobility
 first, but I'm not sure.  I have only vote on their web site one time.
 Every time since I have written them, I get monthly e-mails

 it will be a long time before, I will probably be able to get another van
 as I have a 93 Ford Econoline.  But I always like to gather information so I
 will be ready when the opportunity for me to look for another is available.
 I always have to buy used vans.

 Thank you for the information any of you can provide.
 Dana

 a lot of people like foreign cars I have never had the opportunity to have
 one.




-- 
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C4/5 complete quad, 27 years post
Tucson, AZ


[QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

2007-12-31 Thread Lori Michaelson
Hey...

For those of you who post regularly (as well as those who do not or just
lurk) I was wondering if you all could tell the rest of us how long you have
been on this list?

I found it in the latter part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for six
months when we were living in temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so
it has been 12 1/2 years for me or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years I have
told at least four people about this list because they had not heard of it.
They know who they are.  :-)

Anyway, it would be refreshing to see how long y'll all have been on the
list.

Happy new year to you all!

-- 
Lori
C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
Tucson, AZ


Re: [QUAD-L] Honda Odessey

2007-12-31 Thread wheelchair
EMC, secondary controls were originally designed for full size van and all  
their room. Dodge was the first to offer the minivan for many years.   Because 
of that EMC, redesigned the Gold Series around the Dodge Caravan and the  
Plymouth Voyagers.  When Chevy introduced the Venture Series minivans, EMC  had 
nothing for the first two years.  Then in 2004, they were able to  readapted  
the Gold Series Controls to the Chevy minivans.  I really  don't know what they 
did for Ford minivans and the foreign cars.
I do know its not any easier than it was 5 years ago with Detroit's design  
changes.  And yes, EMC Gold Series is not cheap
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/31/2007 12:07:30 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hey, Paul.
I just  bought an '07 Odyssey in August.  I'm in a Permobil c500 stander, and 
all  is well.  I'm not driving yet though.  I need the EMC controls and  the 
EMC people won't allow their vendors to install those on a Honda Odyssey;  
they r saying I have to send my van down to them.  Which is another issue  in 
itself.  Plus it cost an arm and leg.

How r u  driving?

Larry
C5






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Re: [QUAD-L] Van for sale

2007-12-31 Thread wheelchair
Door cables are 3/32 inch dia.  Some have the coating while the  originals 
did not. The kicker to the spec of the cable is that its Aircraft  Quality (AQ) 
stainless steel. The cable at the hardware stores is not AQ  Stainless Steel.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/31/2007 12:05:35 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

wow that sounds great.  I have to get the cable in my  door fixed.  it broke 
and my door gets jammed on the leftovers.  if  it broke clean, I could live 
with it but now that it jams, I get  stuck.
Dave





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Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

2007-12-31 Thread Bill Jenkins
I'm fairly new.  I've only been on the list a bit over 3 years.

Bill
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Age 57
Leesburg, FL
Life is too short for long pity parties. Get busy living, or get busy dying.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lori Michaelson 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:32 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in



  Hey...

  For those of you who post regularly (as well as those who do not or just 
lurk) I was wondering if you all could tell the rest of us how long you have 
been on this list?

  I found it in the latter part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for six 
months when we were living in temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so it 
has been 12 1/2 years for me or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years I have told 
at least four people about this list because they had not heard of it.  They 
know who they are.  :-) 

  Anyway, it would be refreshing to see how long y'll all have been on the list.
  Happy new year to you all!

  -- 
  Lori 
  C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
  Tucson, AZ 


Re: [QUAD-L] woohoo

2007-12-31 Thread Bill Jenkins
Thanks, Dave.  I don't need leg rests.  LOL

Bill
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Age 57
Leesburg, FL
Life is too short for long pity parties. Get busy living, or get busy dying.

  - Original Message - 
  From: David K. Kelmer 
  To: Bill Jenkins ; Quad List 
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 3:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] woohoo


  Hi Bill,

  They also offer joystick controlled adjustable legs that are first rate.

  With Love,
   
  CtrlAltDel aka Dave
  C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post
  Texas, USA 



  Bill Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John,
Pride already has both tilt-in-space and recline systems.  I have them on 
my Quantum 600.

Bill
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Age 57
Leesburg, FL
Life is too short for long pity parties. Get busy living, or get busy dying.

  - Original Message - 
  From: John S. 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 4:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] woohoo


  Ibots are not covered in Ohio because nobody seems to be able to show a 
medical necessity for it. I don't think you can even get a peremobile in Ohio 
using Medicaid. On the other end of the spectrum, they want you to prove why 
you cannot use a Pride Jazzy or a Quicky. I understand Pride is working on a 
tilt in space system and a recline, Maybe they will revive the Everest  
Jennings name. (They tried to stick a paraplegic into a hopped up 4wheel 
scooter over at the rehab center) I feel any upturn in Medicaid will have to 
come from the low end products outperforming expectations. The space shuttle 
works most of the time and it is built by the lowest bidders. I've always felt 
the quickies were a low cost quality product. Anyone else got any feedback on 
wheelchairs that Medicaid has funded or won't fund.
  (You aren't suppose to say they won't pay for stuff unless they have been 
rejected and no product is rejected solely because of price.) What BS!
  Someone set me straight? 
  We spent 70 years spouting about how stupid Communists were with 5 year 
plans and now we go out of our way to create a health care system that imitates 
an economic 
  plan that failed for the exact same lack of ingenuity and practicality.
  EOR (end of rant)
  Happy New Years,
  john



  - Original Message 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 3:21:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] woohoo


  In a message dated 12/29/2007 7:27:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Just park like a drunk driver...crooked, that way nobody will want to  
park close to ya. and by the way i'm loving my ibot!

  Wow! Can you get one under Medicaid? :-)
  Dianna





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Re: [QUAD-L] Van for sale

2007-12-31 Thread Oconnelldb
 
 
say what???  there's a piece of  hardware in my wheelchair life that isn't 
made of gold?  I'll bet they  still charge like it's gold.  did I tell you I 
painter my fold out ramp  gold??  it fits in just fine.
Dave
 
 
 
In a message dated 12/31/2007 1:37:23 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
wheelchair writes:

Door cables are 3/32 inch dia.  Some have the coating while the  originals 
did not. The kicker to the spec of the cable is that its Aircraft  Quality (AQ) 
stainless steel. The cable at the hardware stores is not AQ  Stainless Steel.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/31/2007 12:05:35 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

wow that sounds great.  I have to get the cable in my  door fixed.  it broke 
and my door gets jammed on the leftovers.   if it broke clean, I could live 
with it but now that it jams, I get  stuck.
Dave





 

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Re: [QUAD-L] 2 STAGE 3 SORES

2007-12-31 Thread Quadius
I know this is late, but you might think about using strechable straps
around your ankles.  Maybe like the ones they use for rehab.
Q


On 12/23/07, Paul Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi, I'm an otherwise healthy c5/6 complete 43 year old male, 4 years
 since injury.
 I have a stage 3 sore on the outer side of either lower calf.  I'm seeing
 a wound care
 specialist once a week and am using compression wraps to reduce the
 swelling.
 its working.  I also just started Celleration (3x/wk) to help debried and
 promote healthy
 skin growth.

 The problem is at night.  I have spasms that prevent my legs from staying
 upright.
 even with the blue boots.  The consequences is that there is direct
 pressure on the
 wounds while I sleep.

 It's a bummer.  Any help and/or insight would be greatly appreciated.

 Thank you.
 Paul



RE: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

2007-12-31 Thread Danny Espinoza
I have been with this list I think since October 2007. I've mostly just read
what everyone talks about on here and give my two cents when I can.  My
injury happened about 20 months ago from a car accident.  Right now I am
living with my parents and my two younger brothers.

 

Danny Espinoza 24/m/California

 

Occupation before accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security
engineer

Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner  bone at c2

TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord

off a vent woohoo however only one diaphragm works right now due to

asymmetric SCI

http://secureminds.us/

 

From: Bill Jenkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:49 PM
To: Quad List
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

 

I'm fairly new.  I've only been on the list a bit over 3 years.

 

Bill
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Age 57
Leesburg, FL
Life is too short for long pity parties. Get busy living, or get busy dying.

- Original Message - 

From: Lori Michaelson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

To: quad-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:32 PM

Subject: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

 


Hey...

 

For those of you who post regularly (as well as those who do not or just
lurk) I was wondering if you all could tell the rest of us how long you have
been on this list?

 

I found it in the latter part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for six
months when we were living in temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so
it has been 12 1/2 years for me or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years I have
told at least four people about this list because they had not heard of it.
They know who they are.  :-) 

 

Anyway, it would be refreshing to see how long y'll all have been on the
list.

Happy new year to you all!

-- 
Lori 
C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
Tucson, AZ 



Re: [QUAD-L] Van for sale

2007-12-31 Thread Oconnelldb
 
 
I had a back yard mechanic tighten it last week so the twists and turns I  
know.  he tightened it up by about 1.5 inches - prob enough to finish it  
off..!!!  After the cable jumped its rollers, it actually snapped when I  
yanked the 
door open.  do you suppose I could buy a piece of this and just  have my back 
yard mechanic fix it again?  he has evidently worked on this  sort of thing 
before.  he and his son were pretty good at figuring the  whole thing out.  my 
old cable was plastic coated  I should probably  use the same stuff again.
thanks w.  you da bomb !!  (-- compliment)
Dave
 
 
 
In a message dated 12/31/2007 4:13:46 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Besides the 3/32 cable that cost about 8-12 dollars, you have to know how  it 
winds around the takeup reel and idler arm. Then there may be 2 yokes and 2  
stops that have to be crimped, once the cable is in place.
Happy, Happy New Year!
W
 
 
In a message dated 12/31/2007 4:23:09 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

say what???  there's a piece of hardware in my  wheelchair life that isn't 
made of gold?  I'll bet they still charge  like it's gold.  did I tell you I 
painter my fold out ramp gold??   it fits in just fine.
Dave





 

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Re: [QUAD-L] 2 STAGE 3 SORES

2007-12-31 Thread Eric W Rudd
theraband?

Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Quadius 
  To: Paul Jacobson 
  Cc: William Willis ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 4:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 STAGE 3 SORES


  I know this is late, but you might think about using strechable straps around 
your ankles.  Maybe like the ones they use for rehab.
  Q

   
  On 12/23/07, Paul Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Hi, I'm an otherwise healthy c5/6 complete 43 year old male, 4 years since 
injury.  
I have a stage 3 sore on the outer side of either lower calf.  I'm seeing a 
wound care 
specialist once a week and am using compression wraps to reduce the 
swelling.
its working.  I also just started Celleration (3x/wk) to help debried and 
promote healthy 
skin growth.

The problem is at night.  I have spasms that prevent my legs from staying 
upright.
even with the blue boots.  The consequences is that there is direct 
pressure on the 
wounds while I sleep. 

It's a bummer.  Any help and/or insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
Paul



Re: [QUAD-L] 2 STAGE 3 SORES

2007-12-31 Thread John S.
Dear Paul,
Have you tried propping your legs with pillows?

Happy New Years!
john
P.S. Don't let them get you down. Damn wounds begin taking over your life if 
your not careful. 

- Original Message 
From: Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Paul Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: William Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 5:34:00 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 STAGE 3 SORES


I know this is late, but you might think about using strechable straps around 
your ankles.  Maybe like the ones they use for rehab.

Q

 

On 12/23/07, Paul Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi, I'm an otherwise healthy c5/6 complete 43 year old male, 4 years since 
injury.  

I have a stage 3 sore on the outer side of either lower calf.  I'm seeing a 
wound care 

specialist once a week and am using compression wraps to reduce the 
swelling.

its working.  I also just started Celleration (3x/wk) to help debried and 
promote healthy 

skin growth.

 

The problem is at night.  I have spasms that prevent my legs from staying 
upright.

even with the blue boots.  The consequences is that there is direct pressure on 
the 

wounds while I sleep. 

 

It's a bummer.  Any help and/or insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank you.
Paul










  

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Re: [QUAD-L] Van for sale

2007-12-31 Thread DiannaL767
 


Besides  the 3/32 cable that cost about 8-12 dollars, you have to know how it 
winds  around the takeup reel and idler arm. Then there may be 2 yokes and 2 
stops  that have to be crimped, once the cable is in place.


W,
How did you become so knowledgeable about *all* the accessible vans   
anything else that deals with accessibility? How many manuals do you 
have sitting around? :-)
Happy New Year to you  all!
Dianna



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Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

2007-12-31 Thread DiannaL767
In a message dated 12/31/2007 6:37:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
I found it in the latter  part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for six 
months when we were living  in temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so 
it has been 12 1/2 years for  me or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years I have 
told at least four  people about this list because they had not heard of it.  
They know who  they are.  :-) 
 

 
Anyway, it would be  refreshing to see how long y'll all have been on the  
list.
Happy new year to you  all! 
-- 
Lori 
C4/5 complete quad, 28  years post
Tucson, A
I've been on the list since 99-2000...I think. Can't remember  exactly.
Dianna

 



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Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

2007-12-31 Thread Eric W Rudd
08/97

Eric W Rudd
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Re: [QUAD-L] Van for sale

2007-12-31 Thread wheelchair
I'm a chick magnet and they tell me everything I know, lol
Best Wishes
W
 
 
In a message dated 12/31/2007 6:36:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

W,
How did you become so knowledgeable about *all* the accessible vans   
anything else that deals with accessibility? How many manuals do you 
have sitting around? :-)
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Re: [QUAD-L] Van for sale

2007-12-31 Thread wheelchair
To know, without sharing is both worthless and cent, scent or senseless. 
 
 
In a message dated 12/31/2007 6:35:42 P.M. Central Standard Time,  DiannaL767 
writes:

W,
How did you become so knowledgeable about *all* the accessible vans   
anything else that deals with accessibility? How many manuals do you 
have sitting around? :-)
Happy New Year to you  all!
Dianna





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Re: [QUAD-L] Van for sale

2007-12-31 Thread wheelchair
Its always worth it to check with your local mobility dealer first, for the  
price of replacement.  Then contact a OEM dealer and see if its an OEM item  
or an aftermarket install.  Check the cost of repair/replacement of the  cable. 
 This way you will know how much you are saving and if its worth  it.
 
The product is referred to as :braided wire cable 3/32 Stainless steel  AQ
 I think 20 ft is as expensive at 10 feet and the  dealer can ship it with 
the stops and yokes if necessary.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/31/2007 6:01:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I had a back yard mechanic tighten it last week so the twists and turns I  
know.  he tightened it up by about 1.5 inches - prob enough to finish it  
off..!!!  After the cable jumped its rollers, it actually snapped when I  
yanked the 
door open.  do you suppose I could buy a piece of this and  just have my back 
yard mechanic fix it again?  he has evidently worked on  this sort of thing 
before.  he and his son were pretty good at figuring  the whole thing out.  my 
old cable was plastic coated  I should  probably use the same stuff again.
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Re: [QUAD-L] Van for sale

2007-12-31 Thread wheelchair
Brothers, from a different Mother, Eric
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/31/2007 7:01:09 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

ah come on w u know i had the same ? so i began sleuthin.i know ur  
well-meaning but mysterious

Eric W Rudd
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Re: [QUAD-L] Van for sale

2007-12-31 Thread Eric W Rudd
lol...classic w response...my ? is y so secretivei'm sure its not a wannabe 
attitude...n the help/guidance/suggestions u give r greatbut damn b 
proud...i know u've given the same advice

Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 7:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Van for sale


  Brothers, from a different Mother, Eric

  Best Wishes

  In a message dated 12/31/2007 7:01:09 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
ah come on w u know i had the same ? so i began sleuthin.i know ur 
well-meaning but mysterious

Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






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Re: [QUAD-L] Van for sale

2007-12-31 Thread wheelchair
No one leaves the planet breathing unless you and I are Astronauts.   It 
behooves us to share as much
knowledge to those who can still absorb, evaluate and teach others.   That, 
my friend, is the cycle of life.
Now you are It   (lol)
 
W
 
 
In a message dated 12/31/2007 7:24:58 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

lol...classic w response...my ? is y so secretivei'm sure its not a  
wannabe attitude...n the help/guidance/suggestions u give r greatbut damn  
b 
proud...i know u've given the same advice

Eric W Rudd
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Re: [QUAD-L] Van for sale

2007-12-31 Thread Eric W Rudd
usually this post'd frustrate mebut , other than being in zen i found an 
inner giggleur it

Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 7:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Van for sale


  No one leaves the planet breathing unless you and I are Astronauts.  It 
behooves us to share as much
  knowledge to those who can still absorb, evaluate and teach others.  That, my 
friend, is the cycle of life.
  Now you are It   (lol)

  W

  In a message dated 12/31/2007 7:24:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
lol...classic w response...my ? is y so secretivei'm sure its not a 
wannabe attitude...n the help/guidance/suggestions u give r greatbut damn b 
proud...i know u've given the same advice

Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






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Re: [QUAD-L] Van for sale

2007-12-31 Thread LadyNotes
W,
I bet you are, indeed, a chick magnet.
 


Naomi


C4  quadriplegic since July 2005
due to Transverse  Myelitis



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Re: [QUAD-L] Van for sale

2007-12-31 Thread oconnelldb

 I have a picture I'll sell..



 


 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 6:53 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Van for sale














W,


I bet you are, indeed, a chick magnet.


?





?


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C4 
quadriplegic since July 2005
due to Transverse 
Myelitis








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Re: [QUAD-L] Van for sale

2007-12-31 Thread Eric W Rudd
lol...hell i'll givehappy new year fellow quads ;-)

Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Van for sale


  I have a picture I'll sell..




[QUAD-L]

2007-12-31 Thread Eric W Rudd
is it me or is she just loveable


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Re: [QUAD-L] Don't Park In The Handicap Spot

2007-12-31 Thread Stacy Harim
I saw on Good morning America where a woman of a disabled child takes pictures 
of those who illegally park in the marked spaces and files complaints with the 
police dept.  She also shows up for all of the court dates and has helped find 
most of them guilty.   This was in New Jersey I think and has even taken a few 
football players to court.

Stacy


- Original Message 
From: John S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 2:13:04 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Don't Park In The Handicap Spot


I sure don't think public access to transportation is the answer but if the 
locality gets a good system running, it is much nicer than wondering where to 
park or how to get out. Granted public isn't always right on time. It isn't 
right on time for anyone, handicapped or not. 
At present I'm fighting to get cell phones to drivers so  people get an 
accurate ETA. Drivers want it but the company doesn't and hasn't given a valid 
reason against it yet.
I've confronted people that were parking in handicapped spots and while there 
is nothing wrong with them, they have a doctors permit. If doctors hand out 
pain meds and diet pills, bet he hands out those little blue parking permits 
like loly pops. 
Maybe some of you can get communities to enforce the parking laws in parking 
lots that are not publicly owned. Push it as a source of revenue. 

Good luck,  Happy New Year!
john


- Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:04:22 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Don't Park In The Handicap Spot


To be truthful Amy...
 
I get whomever is driving my van to do the same. Park out towards the end. 
It's easier...
 
IMHO, a power wheelchair doesn't have problems traveling the distances. So, let 
the ones less fortunate use the handicap spots.
 
Again, I just responded that I like the persons post...for many it's so true.
 
Have a great day,
 
Keith/35/C4-5/NJ
 
 
Amy writes:
It is actually easier for me to park my boyfriends van at the lower end of the 
parking lot. he is on a vent and it gives us a little more privacy to suction 
or empty caths if needed. Plus I park sideways in 2 spots so that we are not 
blocked in. Looks like I cant drive but no one can get near the door that way 
to block it.
 






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