Re: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

2007-10-09 Thread Quadius
Shelley,
For 10 years I did my bowel program on Monday Wednesday and Friday, but when
I turned 40 my body wouldn't let that happen any longer.  I now do it every
other day and occasionally have to do it every day.

I drink a ton of green tea, so maybe this is why my bowel seem like they
want to move sometimes, but thankfully I have had no cases of incontinence
yet.

I usually start out with Metamucil and mineral oil on bowel care Day.  The
mineral oil helps move any hard stool down and seems to also give me a
better feeling in my bowels.  I have been told to be real careful using
mineral oil because if it is accidentally aspirated into the lungs it could
be quite dangerous.

Good luck and hopefully you will get better soon.
Quadius


On 10/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am so sick and tired of this dominating my life.  It is after  12
 midnight and I am considering sleeping on the potty chair.

 At 8 I inserted a suppository.  An hour and and half later I decided to
 call it quits, nothin happening.

 It's 9:30 and am making my way to bed.  THEN I needed to get back on and
 did not make it.  What a mess. When will this get better?  I am so tired of
 this that I am seriously considering limiting my food intake.  Starting
 tomorrow.

 Taking a shower and dressing took me 2 hours and I have spent over 3 hours
 doing my bowel program.  It has been a year since my accident.  Shouldn't I
 have this figured out by now?

 I am so frustrated and angry. Sick and tired of crying to.


 Thanks

 Shelly
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RE: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

2007-10-08 Thread RollinOn
Shelly,
I know your frustration and I hate shower day with a passion but what can we
do.
I started drinking a cup of green tea I buy at safeway called of all names
smooth move but it works.
I try to drink it at least 6-8 hours prior to my bowel program so if I'm
showering in the morning I drink it before I go to sleep.
Keeping the same time of your program is very important too so try to do it
on a strict schedule.
 
Hope that helps,
 

Mark Jackson

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I am so sick and tired of this dominating my life.  It is after  12 midnight
and I am considering sleeping on the potty chair.  

At 8 I inserted a suppository.  An hour and and half later I decided to call
it quits, nothin happening.

It's 9:30 and am making my way to bed.  THEN I needed to get back on and did
not make it.  What a mess. When will this get better?  I am so tired of this
that I am seriously considering limiting my food intake.  Starting tomorrow.

Taking a shower and dressing took me 2 hours and I have spent over 3 hours
doing my bowel program.  It has been a year since my accident.  Shouldn't I
have this figured out by now?

I am so frustrated and angry. Sick and tired of crying to.

 
Thanks

Shelly
1 year post
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Re: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

2007-10-08 Thread LTeasley
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RE: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

2007-10-07 Thread Silas Shelburne
Shelly, 

Believe me I know how you feel, its so degrading to have someone to clean us
up after a accident.  I feel so helpless and ashamed, maybe you should try
the dill I very seldom have a accident unless im on antibiotics.  Hang in
there!!! Silas 

 

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Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 10:19 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

 

I am so sick and tired of this dominating my life.  It is after  12 midnight
and I am considering sleeping on the potty chair.  

At 8 I inserted a suppository.  An hour and and half later I decided to call
it quits, nothin happening.

It's 9:30 and am making my way to bed.  THEN I needed to get back on and did
not make it.  What a mess. When will this get better?  I am so tired of this
that I am seriously considering limiting my food intake.  Starting tomorrow.

Taking a shower and dressing took me 2 hours and I have spent over 3 hours
doing my bowel program.  It has been a year since my accident.  Shouldn't I
have this figured out by now?

I am so frustrated and angry. Sick and tired of crying to.

 
Thanks

Shelly
1 year post
C6-C7 incomplete

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Re: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

2007-10-07 Thread SCIQuad96
Hi Shelly,
 
I for one only do my bowel routines on Monday  Thursday nights  beginning at 
7 PM. The reason for nights is ... if there is still some more  to come out I 
won't be in my power chair, but I'll be on some chucks in  bed.
 
Early on in Quadhood my programs where every other day, but  that got to 
crazy because I always had to figure out if I was going to miss  something 
planned 
... days, weeks or even months a head of time.
 
Now, if I were to use just a suppository or an enema. I'd have a huge delay  
in my program. So, what I do (and others) is to use senna or sennicot 8.6 mg  
pills. I take 2 and a half 10-12 hours in advance of my BR to allow for these  
pills to work on bringing my stool down in my body. I'll even take a 50 mg  
capsule of colace at the same time to keep the stool from becoming to  formed.
 
I hope this helps,
 
Keith/34/C4-5/NJ-11yrsPost
 
PS. Keep your chin up Shelly



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Re: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

2007-10-07 Thread Nichole Rohling
I DO A FLEETS REGULAR ENEMA AFTER B.P. IF I'VEE SAT FOR 45 MIN TO AN HR AND NO 
RESULTS - WE DO THE ENEMA THEN. SOMETIMES IT HELPS GET THINGS MOVING AND IF NOT 
IT GETS RID OF THE SUPPOSITORY

NICKI
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  Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:19 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program


  I am so sick and tired of this dominating my life.  It is after  12 midnight 
and I am considering sleeping on the potty chair.  

  At 8 I inserted a suppository.  An hour and and half later I decided to call 
it quits, nothin happening.

  It's 9:30 and am making my way to bed.  THEN I needed to get back on and did 
not make it.  What a mess. When will this get better?  I am so tired of this 
that I am seriously considering limiting my food intake.  Starting tomorrow.

  Taking a shower and dressing took me 2 hours and I have spent over 3 hours 
doing my bowel program.  It has been a year since my accident.  Shouldn't I 
have this figured out by now?

  I am so frustrated and angry. Sick and tired of crying to.

   
  Thanks

  Shelly
  1 year post
  C6-C7 incomplete


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FW: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

2007-10-07 Thread William Willis
I used senokot until I discovered the herb cascara  segrada. It has helped me 
enormously in maintaining regularity. Good luck Shelly. We all know too well 
the frustration, anger, and embarrassment caused by unpredictable bowels.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 09:00:19 -0400Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 
Please, can you give advice on bowel programTo: quad-list@eskimo.com; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

Hi Shelly,
 
I for one only do my bowel routines on Monday  Thursday nights beginning at 7 
PM. The reason for nights is ... if there is still some more to come out I 
won't be in my power chair, but I'll be on some chucks in bed.
 
Early on in Quadhood my programs where every other day, but that got to crazy 
because I always had to figure out if I was going to miss something planned ... 
days, weeks or even months a head of time.
 
Now, if I were to use just a suppository or an enema. I'd have a huge delay in 
my program. So, what I do (and others) is to use senna or sennicot 8.6 mg 
pills. I take 2 and a half 10-12 hours in advance of my BR to allow for these 
pills to work on bringing my stool down in my body. I'll even take a 50 mg 
capsule of colace at the same time to keep the stool from becoming to formed.
 
I hope this helps,
 
Keith/34/C4-5/NJ-11yrsPost
 
PS. Keep your chin up Shelly


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RE: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

2007-10-07 Thread Danny Hearn
Hi, at the Hospital and rehab I was in , St.John near St.Louis, Missouri---they 
had us try bowel routine each day in the early stages of quad life as we were 
trying to learn routines and what works best for each newly injured person. 
After a short time of that they switched us to Every other day, as we got used 
to this and some days had trouble going -- they told us many Quads systems slow 
down and Very Many learn to go on a regular routine of TWICE a weekMe and 
my wife thought this was crazy because before my injury, I would have a bowel 
movement once or twice a day. After following the rehab nurses advice and 
trying  the Twice a week way--me and other quads love it and stay very 
regular.I'm 10 years post now and seldom have any problem with bowel routine. I 
picked Tuesday and Saturday for my days but many pick 2 different days 
according to what days are best for them. Also the less times you gothe 
more freedom for caregivers and for traveling and so on. Hope 
 things get straightened out for ya, good luck.Dan H.

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   Shelly, 
  Believe me I know how you feel, its so degrading to have someone to clean us 
up after a accident.  I feel so helpless and ashamed, maybe you should try the 
dill I very seldom have a accident unless im on antibiotics.  Hang in there!!! 
Silas 
   
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Subject: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

   
I am so sick and tired of this dominating my life.  It is after  12 
midnight and I am considering sleeping on the potty chair.  

At 8 I inserted a suppository.  An hour and and half later I decided to call it 
quits, nothin happening.

It's 9:30 and am making my way to bed.  THEN I needed to get back on and did 
not make it.  What a mess. When will this get better?  I am so tired of this 
that I am seriously considering limiting my food intake.  Starting tomorrow.

Taking a shower and dressing took me 2 hours and I have spent over 3 hours 
doing my bowel program.  It has been a year since my accident.  Shouldn't I 
have this figured out by now?

I am so frustrated and angry. Sick and tired of crying to.

 
Thanks

Shelly
1 year post
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RE: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

2007-10-07 Thread Eric W Rudd
I'm on a m-w-f morning routine, magic bullet, checked every 15 min then
shower 10+ yrs
 
 
Eric W Rudd
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Re: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

2007-10-07 Thread John S.
I do it every thrd morning at 5 am. I got a neighbor that goes to work at a 
nursing home and has to be there at 8 am. I can switch to evenings if need be. 
I find mornings work best. You cant take a narcotic less than 6 hours prior. 
(they will stop peristalsys), Because I use narcotics I take 3 doses of 
miri-lax or glyco-lax the day before and a citrcel drink the night before. A 
suppository usually gets everything going in the morning. Frankly, I can't feel 
any of it anymore. Sure smell it. Drink WATER and eat greens. Try not to eat 
more than 1500 calories a day. If nobody shows up, I'll still go by 9 am 
without any help or getting on the commode.

john



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I'm on a m-w-f morning routine, magic bullet, checked every 15 min then shower 
10+ yrs
 
 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

2007-10-07 Thread Nichole Rohling
Messagei do m-w-f mornings, 9+ years

nicki
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  I'm on a m-w-f morning routine, magic bullet, checked every 15 min then 
shower 10+ yrs


  Eric W Rudd
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Re: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

2007-10-07 Thread wheelchair
 
Hi Shelly,
 
Bowel programs are a necessary evil and are developed for your best  health 
and well being.
Urine and stool are considered waste and once pass the point of no  return 
are no good for you or your body.  As TABS, most go once a day  and 
sometimes twice a day.  And its natural way of ridding the human body  of that 
which 
is not needed.  Clog up that wasteline and you are in for a  world of hurt and 
unnecessary attention. So best is once a day.  I realize  that some go once, 
every other day.  Others wait longer.  Forget to  take the garbage out for a 
couple of weeks and see what your neighbors have to  say, lol.
Suppository and Ducs, are known for producing the Ghost  Effect.  That is 
unexpected bowel movements.  The suppository is  broken after insertion and a 
small piece travels up the bowel. The rest is  poop'd out, giving you the 
impression that its out and gone... until the ghost  strikes.
 
I promote the old discontinued Therevac SB or its new name...  Emeneze Plus.  
It works, just ask anyone who uses it.  Of course a  good diet is important.  
Fruits, veggies and some rough foods  too.
Bowel training IS part of the bowel program.
 
Keep in mind that if you are getting hugh monies to store human  body 
waste go for it.
If not, keep it real and plan on going once a day.
 
You can also try a health food store for some basic advise on  normal body 
function and how it applies to YOUR body.
 
Remember, a clean body means a happy day ahead of you.  A  sluggish 
bowel. well just ask any TAB, lol.
 
If you require more info, please advise.
Best Wishes
W
 
In a message dated 10/6/2007 11:50:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am so sick and tired of this  dominating my life.  It is after  12 midnight 
and I am  considering sleeping on the potty chair.  

At 8 I inserted a  suppository.  An hour and and half later I decided to call 
it quits,  nothin happening.

It's 9:30 and am making my way to bed.   THEN I needed to get back on and did 
not make it.  What a mess. When will  this get better?  I am so tired of this 
that I am seriously considering  limiting my food intake.  Starting tomorrow.

Taking a shower  and dressing took me 2 hours and I have spent over 3 hours 
doing my bowel  program.  It has been a year since my accident.  Shouldn't I 
have  this figured out by now?

I am so frustrated and angry. Sick and tired  of crying to.


Thanks

Shelly
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Re: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

2007-10-07 Thread wheelchair
 
In a message dated 10/7/2007 5:01:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Also the  less times you gothe more freedom for caregivers and for 
traveling and so  on. Hope  things get straightened out for ya, good  luck. 
 
   Dan H.




I still remember the day Christopher Reeve was admitted to the hospital for  
bowel impactment.  Its not a pretty sight or something to brag about, when  it 
happens.  But it can happen.
 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

2007-10-07 Thread Oconnelldb
 
 
I started out going just 'naturally' when I got the  urge.  now I use 2 
quarts of tap water every 3rd or 4th  day.  i don't get any surprises.
Dave
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/6/2007 9:50:08 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am so sick and tired of this  dominating my life.  It is after  12 midnight 
and I am  considering sleeping on the potty chair.  

At 8 I inserted a  suppository.  An hour and and half later I decided to call 
it quits,  nothin happening.

It's 9:30 and am making my way to bed.   THEN I needed to get back on and did 
not make it.  What a mess. When will  this get better?  I am so tired of this 
that I am seriously considering  limiting my food intake.  Starting tomorrow.

Taking a shower  and dressing took me 2 hours and I have spent over 3 hours 
doing my bowel  program.  It has been a year since my accident.  Shouldn't I 
have  this figured out by now?

I am so frustrated and angry. Sick and tired  of crying to.


Thanks

Shelly
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[QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

2007-10-06 Thread shellbell5705

I am so sick and tired of this dominating my life.? It is after??12 midnight 
and I am considering sleeping on the potty chair.? 

At 8 I inserted a suppository.??An hour and and half later I decided to call it 
quits, nothin happening.

It's 9:30 and?am making my way to bed.? THEN I needed to get back on and did 
not make it.? What a mess. When will this get better?? I am so tired of this 
that I am seriously considering limiting my food intake.??Starting tomorrow.

Taking a shower and dressing took me 2 hours and I have spent over 3 hours 
doing my bowel program.? It has been a year since my accident.? Shouldn't I 
have this figured out by now?

I am so frustrated and angry. Sick and tired of crying to.

?
Thanks

Shelly
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C6-C7 incomplete



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