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I went in the hospital once, they said, I tested positive and every time I've been in the hospital since then, it's like being in quarantine. They come in with the gowns and gloves and treat you like you have the Ebola virus. The last time they swapped my nose for testing to see if it was still necessary and they said he came back positive again. What ever it is, none of my family members or workers get anything from it. The only good part is, I'm guaranteed a private room. I'm allergic to vancomycin, so I don't know if it gets rid of it or not. In a message dated 9/18/2010 2:37:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: I got rid of mine with Vancomycin IVs. Eric W Rudd _c5sc...@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) - Original Message - From: _yanni...@hotmail.com_ (mailto:yanni...@hotmail.com) To: _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 12:43 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] MRSA ? Hi Guys, My first question is I would like to know if they're lots of people in the Quad community who live with MRSA like me? The MRSA (Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus) is a bacterial infection resistant to antibiotic methicillin. Is there some of you who add MRSA and finally got rid of it ? The problem with frigin bacteria is that it just won't go away, I had it for seven years, everytime I go to the hospital, it is the same routine all the time, the darn mask! Is there a way to really get rid of that for good ? Let me know, I would really appreciate. Thanks in advance, Yannik Ps: Info available at: _http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/biol_hazards/methicillin.html_ (http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/biol_hazards/methicillin.html)
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Bill, as strange as it sounds, they are doing what they are suppose to do. Since it is a type of staph your skin will probably deal with it. I do hope they gave you some material to read? Now would be a great time to try Colloidal Silver on your skin directly while taking a teaspoon under your tongue each day. Just a thought. I wish you the very best and hope it doesn't spread. john - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:27:24 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MRSA Did they culture it? They should at least do a culture and sensitivity test to see what antibiotic would work. In a message dated 4/24/2008 12:06:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My doctors refuse to treat my MRSA. I have the sore which they monitor but still believe I am better left not treated. What do you think? Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
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I think that's why new antibiotics continue to be developed. In a message dated 4/10/2008 10:19:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pretty soon the bugs will not be responsive to anything. That is why they are calling it the superbug. Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316)
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I went to my sleep doctor and I was told that they are very slow to put drugs on the market for sleeping problems and they have been waiting for a another new drug for quite some time. They had to increase my trazodone to 100 mg , and it could go up as high as 200 although it can go higher, but my doctor, who is in charge does not do. I had to have a nurse practitioner, because she was too busy to get me in on my six month appointment. I had called the week before to tell her that it was not working the dose at 50 mg. There drugs and then decided to take the off take me off all of them so I asked for her. so I went for a while I first I had to go to another doctor in her practice, because she was booked, he tried beyond about three different medications and the know what to do, so he took me off everything, so I called my rehab doctor and he gave me trazodone. I went for a period of time without much sleep, while trying the three different medications, while with him until I got back on the trazodone. When I finally got into her, she added the ambien, which helped for a while. Has anybody ever tried that combination together. That what is working for you. I want to write all these down to let her know the next time what others try. I'm glad they will add by a phone call, as she is difficult to get into. I hope to hear from some of you with the same problem, and how you handle. I know I have asked this before but it was on my laptop that crashed several months ago, and I lost everything. I had not backed up everything. Thank you. Dana I really appreciate hearing everyone's experiences about MRSA as I was not familiar with any of this. you. Dana In a message dated 4/11/2008 9:34:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that's why new antibiotics continue to be developed. In a message dated 4/10/2008 10:19:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pretty soon the bugs will not be responsive to anything. That is why they are calling it the superbug. Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. Planning your summer road trip? Check out _AOL Travel Guides_ (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) . . **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316)
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Hi Dana, I take amitriptyline to sleep, at first they start you on 10mg but can move it up to 50mg or more if needed. Some say it leaves them a bit groggy in the mornings but that don't last long. On some days I skip that and instead take Ambien,,, I think by changing some nights it keeps their effect working better. Dan H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went to my sleep doctor and I was told that they are very slow to put drugs on the market for sleeping problems and they have been waiting for a another new drug for quite some time. They had to increase my trazodone to 100 mg , and it could go up as high as 200 although it can go higher, but my doctor, who is in charge does not do. I had to have a nurse practitioner, because she was too busy to get me in on my six month appointment. I had called the week before to tell her that it was not working the dose at 50 mg. There drugs and then decided to take the off take me off all of them so I asked for her. so I went for a while I first I had to go to another doctor in her practice, because she was booked, he tried beyond about three different medications and the know what to do, so he took me off everything, so I called my rehab doctor and he gave me trazodone. I went for a period of time without much sleep, while trying the three different medications, while with him until I got back on the trazodone. When I finally got into her, she added the ambien, which helped for a while. Has anybody ever tried that combination together. That what is working for you. I want to write all these down to let her know the next time what others try. I'm glad they will add by a phone call, as she is difficult to get into. I hope to hear from some of you with the same problem, and how you handle. I know I have asked this before but it was on my laptop that crashed several months ago, and I lost everything. I had not backed up everything. Thank you. Dana I really appreciate hearing everyone's experiences about MRSA as I was not familiar with any of this. you. Dana In a message dated 4/11/2008 9:34:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that's why new antibiotics continue to be developed. In a message dated 4/10/2008 10:19:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pretty soon the bugs will not be responsive to anything. That is why they are calling it the superbug. Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. - Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. . - Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides.
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Hi Dana... I hope you don't mind, but I'm replying to your message on list as well as directly to you because I think it's very important people understand why I intentionally wrote things the way I did. (You originally posed the question off list). You asked, Why do you say we hope? The reason I used we hope and hopefully with regard to eradicating the MRSA-related osteomyelitis I have, has a lot to do with my experience with biology... my major, the subject I teach, and how the medical community is beginning to regard this bacteria. MRSA, as with any infection, is only cured when every single infectious bacterium is killed by whatever means you're using in conjunction with your own immune system. Most antibiotics work by killing enough bacteria to allow your immune system to kill or learn to kill the small amount remaining. MRSA in particular is difficult because of its ability to quickly mutate... though not as quickly as something like AIDS. And I want to note that the CA (community-associated) MRSA is more virulent than the HA (hospital) strains, meaning CA spreads and mutates more quickly. MRSA, especially located in bone where blood flow --and therefore the reach of antibiotics and an immune response-- is lessened and is much more difficult to completely eradicate... AND difficult to confirm. Most of the time a person who once had MRSA is considered to be (at least in a hospital setting) a former MRSA patient and many additional precautions are often... and usually should... be followed, even to the point of requiring every person entering that patient's hospital room to put on gloves and a disposable isolation gown before entering and then disposing of them each time they leave the room. This happens not only when a person has MRSA but also when someone has a history of MRSA. It's one aspect of controlling the spread of the bacteria to another person or even just to another object where another person may come in contact with it. In that respect, MRSA is somewhat like a cancer. Typically, someone isn't usually clinically defined as cured, just like someone who had cancer is considered in remission, not necessarily cured, just because it's far too easy for MRSA to mutate and become resistant to whatever antibiotic or combination of antibiotics you might be taking while also becoming dormant in nearby tissue ready to begin a new infection. A person might appear to be cured as far as no symptoms or cultured signs of the bacteria being found. But a real CURE as we typically define it (i.e. all bacteria gone) is difficult to be certain of. Even if only one bacterium remains in a dormant state, it can be reactivated by a weakened immune system or any other number of factors. Because it only takes a very small number of bacteria to begin a reinfection of an area it's almost impossible to definitively say it's all gone. Even in a wound culture using a swab of an entire wound has the possibility of missing a single small colony that could take up an area smaller than a pin prick. So, the culture comes back negative even though the bacteria is still present in your tissues. By all means, I am NOT saying it isn't cured or CAN'T be cured... I'm just saying the possibility for missing a potential infection exists. To answer your question specifically regarding the reason I keep saying hopefully when I'm referring to myself and my situation, I had what's called refractory osteomyelitis with MRSA. Refractory osteomyelitis is a bone infection that remains after all other antibiotic and surgical options have been exhausted. MRSA, a gram-negative anaerobic staphylococcus CAN be killed. The difficulty is in determining whether it has all been killed or not. It's almost impossible to tell for certain... especially in more dense bone tissue where blood flow is limited. You are correct in that I did learn these things in a way I wouldn't choose. However, because I learned them this way and because of my general knowledge of biology plus several friends who are doctors who have had to deal with this, I would have to say what I've learned is quite accurate. (Not to sound arrogant.) I hope that answers your, and some others', questions. (BTW: Do me a favor everyone, and stay away from this crap if you can!) Best regards, --Tod - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MRSA Hi Todd, Why do you say we hope? You have really gone through a lot. You have learned a lot but not the way you would like to. We don't like to experience the problems of SCI to be knowledgeable, but that seems to be the way it happened. I sure hope everything heals properly for you. I'm glad to have you back on the list. Dana -- Planning your summer road trip? Check out
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Thank you that was some good information Danny Espinoza 25/m/California Occupation before accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security engineer Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner bone at c2 TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord off a vent woohoo however only one diaphragm works right now due to asymmetric SCI http://secureminds.us/ http://www.myspace.com/dannylnx From: Tod E. Santee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MRSA Hi Dana... I hope you don't mind, but I'm replying to your message on list as well as directly to you because I think it's very important people understand why I intentionally wrote things the way I did. (You originally posed the question off list). You asked, Why do you say we hope? The reason I used we hope and hopefully with regard to eradicating the MRSA-related osteomyelitis I have, has a lot to do with my experience with biology... my major, the subject I teach, and how the medical community is beginning to regard this bacteria. MRSA, as with any infection, is only cured when every single infectious bacterium is killed by whatever means you're using in conjunction with your own immune system. Most antibiotics work by killing enough bacteria to allow your immune system to kill or learn to kill the small amount remaining. MRSA in particular is difficult because of its ability to quickly mutate... though not as quickly as something like AIDS. And I want to note that the CA (community-associated) MRSA is more virulent than the HA (hospital) strains, meaning CA spreads and mutates more quickly. MRSA, especially located in bone where blood flow --and therefore the reach of antibiotics and an immune response-- is lessened and is much more difficult to completely eradicate... AND difficult to confirm. Most of the time a person who once had MRSA is considered to be (at least in a hospital setting) a former MRSA patient and many additional precautions are often... and usually should... be followed, even to the point of requiring every person entering that patient's hospital room to put on gloves and a disposable isolation gown before entering and then disposing of them each time they leave the room. This happens not only when a person has MRSA but also when someone has a history of MRSA. It's one aspect of controlling the spread of the bacteria to another person or even just to another object where another person may come in contact with it. In that respect, MRSA is somewhat like a cancer. Typically, someone isn't usually clinically defined as cured, just like someone who had cancer is considered in remission, not necessarily cured, just because it's far too easy for MRSA to mutate and become resistant to whatever antibiotic or combination of antibiotics you might be taking while also becoming dormant in nearby tissue ready to begin a new infection. A person might appear to be cured as far as no symptoms or cultured signs of the bacteria being found. But a real CURE as we typically define it (i.e. all bacteria gone) is difficult to be certain of. Even if only one bacterium remains in a dormant state, it can be reactivated by a weakened immune system or any other number of factors. Because it only takes a very small number of bacteria to begin a reinfection of an area it's almost impossible to definitively say it's all gone. Even in a wound culture using a swab of an entire wound has the possibility of missing a single small colony that could take up an area smaller than a pin prick. So, the culture comes back negative even though the bacteria is still present in your tissues. By all means, I am NOT saying it isn't cured or CAN'T be cured... I'm just saying the possibility for missing a potential infection exists. To answer your question specifically regarding the reason I keep saying hopefully when I'm referring to myself and my situation, I had what's called refractory osteomyelitis with MRSA. Refractory osteomyelitis is a bone infection that remains after all other antibiotic and surgical options have been exhausted. MRSA, a gram-negative anaerobic staphylococcus CAN be killed. The difficulty is in determining whether it has all been killed or not. It's almost impossible to tell for certain... especially in more dense bone tissue where blood flow is limited. You are correct in that I did learn these things in a way I wouldn't choose. However, because I learned them this way and because of my general knowledge of biology plus several friends who are doctors who have had to deal with this, I would have to say what I've learned is quite accurate. (Not to sound arrogant.) I hope that answers your, and some others', questions. (BTW: Do me a favor everyone, and stay away from this crap if you can!) Best regards, --Tod - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL
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It cured mine in 1996, but I am now allergic to Vanco. That's why I'm scared every time I visit the hospital. Quadius On 4/5/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Vancomycin CURED my MRSA infection in 2003.* In a message dated 4/5/2008 6:11:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a source of *treatment *but I am not altogether sure that it *cures*MRSA. Like there is no cure for herpes. *Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes.* -- Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guideshttp://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316 .
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As far as I know, which doesn't mean a lot, MRSA is sometimes so susceptible to Vanco and a few other broad-spectrum antibiotics, but this is not always the case. My father-in-law, who was extraordinarily weakened by a stroke, succumbed to MRSA about three years ago and he was given Vanco. It's not always successful in knocking the strain out. Quadius On 4/7/08, Lori Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using your answer/logic ... then all folks who've had it and died rather quickly (not to mention the thousands of cases we DON'T hear about) could have been easily and quickly put on a common antibiotic (vancomycin) and possibly a couple of others and no big deal. They should not have had to be quarantined like they had leprosy or something and then just treated like many of the other superbugs out there (Proteus Psedemonas for 2 examples). *So then why the big SCARE and AWARENESS of people dying or being quarantined (with an MRSA infection) when they could just be responsive to vancomycin and one other new antibiotics you mention?* We surely do not have to get into an argument about it ESPECIALLY because more of us can be at risk. :-) Lori Michaelson Age - 43 C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post Tucson, AZ On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 3:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *WRONG! MRSA means it is RESISTANT to all cillin-like antibiotics. MRSA usually responds to Vancomycin and a couple of other new antibiotics. *
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Hopefully my other comments didn't stir up this dormant thread. I apologize if I did. Quadius On 4/8/08, John S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your absolutely right and the war against bacteria and viruses will never end until they win. Sorry I tried to make light of it. I didn't mean to upset anyone. I know it is too close to home for a lot of us to laugh at so, I apologize. john - Original Message From: Danny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 7, 2008 7:31:32 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MRSA *John, STAPH has been around for ages but MRSA is a newer more resistant strain, --bacteria's and diseases are mutating into new more drug resistant strains just like the AIDS virus does. * *Dan H.* *John S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: It took a lawyer and a Doctor to come up with the term we know as MRSA. When it was first discovered you know there was a doctor at the table saying, Lets call it Hospital Staph!. The fact is, this superbug has never hurt a perfectly healthy person! We do have a special interest in it because so many of us are dependent on the doctors and nurses that do so much to spread it. I do believe the insurance companies that have done so much to reduce the quality of care in order to increase profits should be held responsible. They are a direct source behind forcing the best doctors and nurses from the hospitals. In many cities across America corporations have been caught working with insurance companies to fix prices in local areas. This has driven the best doctors and nurses away from these markets. In Cincy they busted GE and PG along with Ford and Anthem and Humana. After this grand conspiracy was exposed the whistle blower was fired and each of the corporations received a sharp tongue lashing from a federal judge that couldn't think of anyway to punish such an act fairly...the end. Once again proving that we need to nationalize health care if only to stop corporations from destroying our medical system for the profits. See! You all knew it was political. john - Original Message From: Lori Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 7, 2008 2:26:06 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MRSA Using your answer/logic ... then all folks who've had it and died rather quickly (not to mention the thousands of cases we DON'T hear about) could have been easily and quickly put on a common antibiotic (vancomycin) and possibly a couple of others and no big deal. They should not have had to be quarantined like they had leprosy or something and then just treated like many of the other superbugs out there (Proteus Psedemonas for 2 examples). *So then why the big SCARE and AWARENESS of people dying or being quarantined (with an MRSA infection) when they could just be responsive to vancomycin and one other new antibiotics you mention?* We surely do not have to get into an argument about it ESPECIALLY because more of us can be at risk. :-) Lori Michaelson Age - 43 C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post Tucson, AZ On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 3:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *WRONG! MRSA means it is RESISTANT to all cillin-like antibiotics. MRSA usually responds to Vancomycin and a couple of other new antibiotics. * Methicillin definition - Medical Dictionary definitions of popular medical terhttp://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=24074 In a message dated 4/5/2008 5:51:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason it is called methiline-resistant is because it is resistant to ALL antibiotics. -- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Accesshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=47523/*http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com, No Cost. -- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Accesshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=47523/*http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com, No Cost.
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Were all these people given vancomycin that came close to dying ? I think the news reports are making more people aware of how easily they can help prevent MRSA infections by frequent hand washes and using gloves and masks when changing caths, dressing wounds, etc. However, some news reports have sensationalized it to the point that it's beyond being rational. In a message dated 4/7/2008 2:26:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So then why the big SCARE and AWARENESS of people dying or being quarantined (with an MRSA infection) when they could just be responsive to vancomycin and one other new antibiotics you mention? Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. Planning your summer road trip? Check out _AOL Travel Guides_ (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) . **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316)
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I don't know what they were given. One of my MRSA infections was successfully treated with Vancomycin. Another with Keflon. In a message dated 4/8/2008 4:34:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, DAANOO writes: Were all these people given vancomycin that came close to dying ? Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316)
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Your absolutely right and the war against bacteria and viruses will never end until they win. Sorry I tried to make light of it. I didn't mean to upset anyone. I know it is too close to home for a lot of us to laugh at so, I apologize. john - Original Message From: Danny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 7, 2008 7:31:32 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MRSA John, STAPH has been around for ages but MRSA is a newer more resistant strain, --bacteria's and diseases are mutating into new more drug resistant strains just like the AIDS virus does. Dan H. John S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It took a lawyer and a Doctor to come up with the term we know as MRSA. When it was first discovered you know there was a doctor at the table saying, Lets call it Hospital Staph!. The fact is, this superbug has never hurt a perfectly healthy person! We do have a special interest in it because so many of us are dependent on the doctors and nurses that do so much to spread it. I do believe the insurance companies that have done so much to reduce the quality of care in order to increase profits should be held responsible. They are a direct source behind forcing the best doctors and nurses from the hospitals. In many cities across America corporations have been caught working with insurance companies to fix prices in local areas. This has driven the best doctors and nurses away from these markets. In Cincy they busted GE and PG along with Ford and Anthem and Humana. After this grand conspiracy was exposed the whistle blower was fired and each of the corporations received a sharp tongue lashing from a federal judge that couldn't think of anyway to punish such an act fairly...the end. Once again proving that we need to nationalize health care if only to stop corporations from destroying our medical system for the profits. See! You all knew it was political. john - Original Message From: Lori Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 7, 2008 2:26:06 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MRSA Using your answer/logic ... then all folks who've had it and died rather quickly (not to mention the thousands of cases we DON'T hear about) could have been easily and quickly put on a common antibiotic (vancomycin) and possibly a couple of others and no big deal. They should not have had to be quarantined like they had leprosy or something and then just treated like many of the other superbugs out there (Proteus Psedemonas for 2 examples). So then why the big SCARE and AWARENESS of people dying or being quarantined (with an MRSA infection) when they could just be responsive to vancomycin and one other new antibiotics you mention? We surely do not have to get into an argument about it ESPECIALLY because more of us can be at risk. :-) Lori Michaelson Age - 43 C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post Tucson, AZ On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 3:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WRONG! MRSA means it is RESISTANT to all cillin-like antibiotics. MRSA usually responds to Vancomycin and a couple of other new antibiotics. Methicillin definition - Medical Dictionary definitions of popular medical ter In a message dated 4/5/2008 5:51:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason it is called methiline-resistant is because it is resistant to ALL antibiotics. You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
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Using your answer/logic ... then all folks who've had it and died rather quickly (not to mention the thousands of cases we DON'T hear about) could have been easily and quickly put on a common antibiotic (vancomycin) and possibly a couple of others and no big deal. They should not have had to be quarantined like they had leprosy or something and then just treated like many of the other superbugs out there (Proteus Psedemonas for 2 examples). *So then why the big SCARE and AWARENESS of people dying or being quarantined (with an MRSA infection) when they could just be responsive to vancomycin and one other new antibiotics you mention?* We surely do not have to get into an argument about it ESPECIALLY because more of us can be at risk. :-) Lori Michaelson Age - 43 C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post Tucson, AZ On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 3:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *WRONG! MRSA means it is RESISTANT to all cillin-like antibiotics. MRSA usually responds to Vancomycin and a couple of other new antibiotics.* Methicillin definition - Medical Dictionary definitions of popular medical ter http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=24074 In a message dated 4/5/2008 5:51:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason it is called methiline-resistant is because it is resistant to ALL antibiotics.
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Nope... those who died either waited to be treated thinking it's nothing but then went septic, or were improperly diagnosed (b/c many look like spider bites or rashes), or the bug was later found in bone too deep to be effectively treated with antibiotics. Luckily, my bone-involved MRSA was found before it got beyond the reach of IVs (we hope). Best, Tod Lori Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using your answer/logic ... then all folks who've had it and died rather quickly (not to mention the thousands of cases we DON'T hear about) could have been easily and quickly put on a common antibiotic (vancomycin) and possibly a couple of others and no big deal. They should not have had to be quarantined like they had leprosy or something and then just treated like many of the other superbugs out there (Proteus Psedemonas for 2 examples). *So then why the big SCARE and AWARENESS of people dying or being quarantined (with an MRSA infection) when they could just be responsive to vancomycin and one other new antibiotics you mention?* We surely do not have to get into an argument about it ESPECIALLY because more of us can be at risk. :-) Lori Michaelson Age - 43 C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post Tucson, AZ On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 3:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *WRONG! MRSA means it is RESISTANT to all cillin-like antibiotics. MRSA usually responds to Vancomycin and a couple of other new antibiotics.* Methicillin definition - Medical Dictionary definitions of popular medical ter http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=24074 In a message dated 4/5/2008 5:51:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason it is called methiline-resistant is because it is resistant to ALL antibiotics.
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I think the news reports are making more people aware of how easily they can help prevent MRSA infections by frequent hand washes and using gloves and masks when changing caths, dressing wounds, etc. However, some news reports have sensationalized it to the point that it's beyond being rational. In a message dated 4/7/2008 2:26:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So then why the big SCARE and AWARENESS of people dying or being quarantined (with an MRSA infection) when they could just be responsive to vancomycin and one other new antibiotics you mention? Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316)
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It took a lawyer and a Doctor to come up with the term we know as MRSA. When it was first discovered you know there was a doctor at the table saying, Lets call it Hospital Staph!. The fact is, this superbug has never hurt a perfectly healthy person! We do have a special interest in it because so many of us are dependent on the doctors and nurses that do so much to spread it. I do believe the insurance companies that have done so much to reduce the quality of care in order to increase profits should be held responsible. They are a direct source behind forcing the best doctors and nurses from the hospitals. In many cities across America corporations have been caught working with insurance companies to fix prices in local areas. This has driven the best doctors and nurses away from these markets. In Cincy they busted GE and PG along with Ford and Anthem and Humana. After this grand conspiracy was exposed the whistle blower was fired and each of the corporations received a sharp tongue lashing from a federal judge that couldn't think of anyway to punish such an act fairly...the end. Once again proving that we need to nationalize health care if only to stop corporations from destroying our medical system for the profits. See! You all knew it was political. john - Original Message From: Lori Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 7, 2008 2:26:06 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MRSA Using your answer/logic ... then all folks who've had it and died rather quickly (not to mention the thousands of cases we DON'T hear about) could have been easily and quickly put on a common antibiotic (vancomycin) and possibly a couple of others and no big deal. They should not have had to be quarantined like they had leprosy or something and then just treated like many of the other superbugs out there (Proteus Psedemonas for 2 examples). So then why the big SCARE and AWARENESS of people dying or being quarantined (with an MRSA infection) when they could just be responsive to vancomycin and one other new antibiotics you mention? We surely do not have to get into an argument about it ESPECIALLY because more of us can be at risk. :-) Lori Michaelson Age - 43 C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post Tucson, AZ On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 3:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WRONG! MRSA means it is RESISTANT to all cillin-like antibiotics. MRSA usually responds to Vancomycin and a couple of other new antibiotics. Methicillin definition - Medical Dictionary definitions of popular medical ter In a message dated 4/5/2008 5:51:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason it is called methiline-resistant is because it is resistant to ALL antibiotics. You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
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John, STAPH has been around for ages but MRSA is a newer more resistant strain, --bacteria's and diseases are mutating into new more drug resistant strains just like the AIDS virus does. Dan H. John S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It took a lawyer and a Doctor to come up with the term we know as MRSA. When it was first discovered you know there was a doctor at the table saying, Lets call it Hospital Staph!. The fact is, this superbug has never hurt a perfectly healthy person! We do have a special interest in it because so many of us are dependent on the doctors and nurses that do so much to spread it. I do believe the insurance companies that have done so much to reduce the quality of care in order to increase profits should be held responsible. They are a direct source behind forcing the best doctors and nurses from the hospitals. In many cities across America corporations have been caught working with insurance companies to fix prices in local areas. This has driven the best doctors and nurses away from these markets. In Cincy they busted GE and PG along with Ford and Anthem and Humana. After this grand conspiracy was exposed the whistle blower was fired and each of the corporations received a sharp tongue lashing from a federal judge that couldn't think of anyway to punish such an act fairly...the end. Once again proving that we need to nationalize health care if only to stop corporations from destroying our medical system for the profits. See! You all knew it was political. john - Original Message From: Lori Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 7, 2008 2:26:06 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MRSA Using your answer/logic ... then all folks who've had it and died rather quickly (not to mention the thousands of cases we DON'T hear about) could have been easily and quickly put on a common antibiotic (vancomycin) and possibly a couple of others and no big deal. They should not have had to be quarantined like they had leprosy or something and then just treated like many of the other superbugs out there (Proteus Psedemonas for 2 examples). So then why the big SCARE and AWARENESS of people dying or being quarantined (with an MRSA infection) when they could just be responsive to vancomycin and one other new antibiotics you mention? We surely do not have to get into an argument about it ESPECIALLY because more of us can be at risk. :-) Lori Michaelson Age - 43 C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post Tucson, AZ On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 3:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WRONG! MRSA means it is RESISTANT to all cillin-like antibiotics. MRSA usually responds to Vancomycin and a couple of other new antibiotics. Methicillin definition - Medical Dictionary definitions of popular medical ter In a message dated 4/5/2008 5:51:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason it is called methiline-resistant is because it is resistant to ALL antibiotics. - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.
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Many people get MRSA on there skin (staph is always on your skin) in the form of boils and pimples. This is not serious because it can be drained and regularly cleaned. MRSA is a result of overuse of penicillin and other anti-biotics. Staph was bound to become the first to be resistant. Staph is about the most common bacteria that we all carry on our skin. When staph infects our blood or urinary tracts, it can become very serious. If you have the MRSA present on your skin, you need an anti bacterial soap and a real good scrubbing. You can get it from a handshake which does worry doctors. Young children can spread this bug like lightening and it is common for children to get staph infections. You can allow your child to not take anti biotics for every cold and possibly develop a stronger immune system. MRSA is not serious if it isn't infecting a person, even if it is present on that person. What seems to be missing in studies is why so many people come in contact with MRSA and even those with compromised immune systems do not develop any infection. At present it is still treatable. It is not the Superbug at the top of the list. If you are truly concerned, my best suggestion is to stop this stupid handshaking so many people expect. Cut back on eating beef and drinking cows milk since both contain high concentrations of penicillin. (Ingredients that aren't mentioned.) Teach your kids to wash there hands a lot and stop handling every thing that comes in reach. Hospitals have so far shown no sign of reducing infection numbers and community strains are almost always treatable. Obviously, the term SUPERBUG is overused and not well understood by such minds as Dr. Phil. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 5, 2008 6:46:18 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MRSA Vancomycin CURED my MRSA infection in 2003. In a message dated 4/5/2008 6:11:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a source of treatment but I am not altogether sure that it cures MRSA. Like there is no cure for herpes. Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
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thats not completely true lori...vancomyosin is the only drug known that can treat it Kevin M. Rudolph Louisville, Kentucky 40214-4023 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://www.turbokev.com http://www.turbokev.com/ Instant Messengers: AOL: kyprincecharming ICQ: 28414413 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo: turbokev -Original Message- From: Lori Michaelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 5:51 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] MRSA Lots of people say they have had it or are carriers. The reason it is called methiline-resistant is because it is resistant to ALL antibiotics. And that is also why it is called the superbug. If someone was told that they had MRSA and was given an antibiotic and it took care of it... it had to be an infection of another sort. MRSA is resistant to all the antibiotics on the market today. That is WHY it is such a huge concern. But if a lay person is unable to read their own lab reports, etc. (which is most people)... doctors can tell their patients anything and most of the time people believe them. Truthfully... I don't think doctors want to start a panic so that is why they tell patients what they do. Or they are required by law to say this or that not to start a panic. Lori Michaelson Age - 43 C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post Tucson, AZ On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Merrill Burghardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Las month I was cultured as a MRSA carrier. MRSA is a resistant infection which is spreading in hospitals. Apparently I am only a carrier but suspicious looking circular sores are developing on my inner thighs. I have read about this but have never spoken with anyone who has or had it. One person had it and lost a foot. My doctors will not treat it as they believe it will only become further resistance. Have a story? Merrill -- Lori C4/5 complete quad, 27 years post Tucson, AZ -- Lori C4/5 complete quad, 27 years post Tucson, AZ
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WRONG! MRSA means it is RESISTANT to all cillin-like antibiotics. MRSA usually responds to Vancomycin and a couple of other new antibiotics. _Methicillin definition - Medical Dictionary definitions of popular medical ter_ (http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=24074) In a message dated 4/5/2008 5:51:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason it is called methiline-resistant is because it is resistant to ALL antibiotics. Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316)
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Vancomycin CURED my MRSA infection in 2003. In a message dated 4/5/2008 6:11:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a source of treatment but I am not altogether sure that it cures MRSA. Like there is no cure for herpes. Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316)
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MessageVancomyosin Bactrim (sulfa) also treat MRSA. There's also another antibiotic that I took with the Bactrim that starts with an R, can't remember the name, but I think Tod mentioned it in his post. Mine was cleared up in 14 days. Corie - Original Message - From: Kevin M. Rudolph To: 'Lori Michaelson' ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 3:00 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] MRSA thats not completely true lori...vancomyosin is the only drug known that can treat it Kevin M. Rudolph Louisville, Kentucky 40214-4023 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://www.turbokev.com Instant Messengers: AOL: kyprincecharming ICQ: 28414413 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo: turbokev -Original Message- From: Lori Michaelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 5:51 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] MRSA Lots of people say they have had it or are carriers. The reason it is called methiline-resistant is because it is resistant to ALL antibiotics. And that is also why it is called the superbug. If someone was told that they had MRSA and was given an antibiotic and it took care of it... it had to be an infection of another sort. MRSA is resistant to all the antibiotics on the market today. That is WHY it is such a huge concern. But if a lay person is unable to read their own lab reports, etc. (which is most people)... doctors can tell their patients anything and most of the time people believe them. Truthfully... I don't think doctors want to start a panic so that is why they tell patients what they do. Or they are required by law to say this or that not to start a panic. Lori Michaelson Age - 43 C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post Tucson, AZ On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Merrill Burghardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Las month I was cultured as a MRSA carrier. MRSA is a resistant infection which is spreading in hospitals. Apparently I am only a carrier but suspicious looking circular sores are developing on my inner thighs. I have read about this but have never spoken with anyone who has or had it. One person had it and lost a foot. My doctors will not treat it as they believe it will only become further resistance. Have a story? Merrill -- Lori C4/5 complete quad, 27 years post Tucson, AZ -- Lori C4/5 complete quad, 27 years post Tucson, AZ
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Merrill, I too have MRSA, and have two small sores on my butt. We can tell when their getting infected by redness and drainage, ive been given antibiotics for MRSA several times and you can really tell the difference in the healing of the sores. Ive had the sores for over 2 years and their just about to close. Ive never stayed in bed, I would go nuts! But the sores would have probable been healed if I had stayed off my butt. Lol. Silas From: Merrill Burghardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] MRSA My doctors refuse to treat my MRSA. I have the sore which they monitor but still believe I am better left not treated. What do you think? The sore is managed ONLY by keeping in bed treating the sore on my inner thigh as a heat rash which it is not. My healthcare is VA, think I should just watch the sore grow or treat the MRSA? Merrill _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:00 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MRSA MRSA will show up in blood cultures or when a sore is cultured. The doctor should always do a culture/sensitivity test to determine which antibiotic would best kill the infection. Here's something else you should know: Methicillin: A semisynthetic penicillin-related antibiotic, also known as Staphcillin, that once was effective against staphylococci (staph) resistant to penicillin because they produce the enzyme penicillinase. Rarely used now, methicillin has been largely superceded by Vancomycin. Over the past 50 years, staph bacteria have become resistant to various antibiotics, including the commonly used penicillin-related antibiotics, including methicillin. These resistant bacteria are called methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA. There are other antibiotics that can kill a non-MRSA infection like Keflex, Keflon (the IV form of Keflex) and Cipro. In a message dated 4/2/2008 8:21:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, DAANOO writes: I guess they don't test you unless they see some kind of signs of it on your skin? Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. _ Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316 Travel Guides.
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Thank you for your piece. Are you saying that because you sought psych help for anxiousness over your health care, that this was why MRSA was treated? Merrill _ From: Corie Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:26 PM To: Merrill Burghardt Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MRSA No problem! I agree with what Tod said, I would be firmer about getting on an antibiotic that treats this superbug. Tod mentioned the ones that treat it the best. I took Bactrim the one that started with an R. I am allergic to Bactrim (sulfa) and get the itchies, so only managed to stay on the prescription for like 11 days, then couldn't tolerate any more, but stayed on the other antibiotic longer and it cleared up the spots. I'm not sure if they give vancomycin orally or if it has to be just through IV. These sores, if it for sure is MRSA, have the potential to spread and get worse and get into your bloodstream and people have died from it. So I don't think it's something that should be treated so lightly by your doctors. I felt the nurse practitioner, who finally treated mine, after my physiatrist intervened, was too laid-back about it as well. Anyway, good luck and keep us posted. Corie - Original Message - From: Merrill Burghardt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Corie Jones' mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:07 AM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] MRSA Oh, thank you for writing. Do you know which antibiotic was successful? Was it Vancomysine? Merrill _ From: Corie Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:03 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MRSA Hi Merrill, I got MRSA from a family member who had the same pimple looking, circular sores. Mine developed in my inner thigh area also and was untreated for a month because at first we were not sure what they were, thinking they were ingrown hairs (from shaving) or pimples, but they got worse and spread. My family member who was the person I believe gave it to me, hers was under her armpit and later on her stomach and much bigger than mine and the doctor never diagnosed her with MRSA, just called it a bacterial staff infection. It was only after I got it and was properly diagnosed, luckily by my home care nurse that comes in once a month, that we realized hers was the same thing I had. I was first treated with the wrong antibiotic, although it was healing it a little, but then I was put on the right antibiotics and they cleared right up. They left scars for a while, but those are finally fading too. It's a scary thing to know you've had it and I'm sure I'm a carrier for it now also. In fact, my 2-year-old daughter also got one of the bumps on her butt area that would not heal and got bigger and took her to the doctor and was told it was MRSA and she was put on antibiotics (sulfa) and it healed. And it very much worries me that my daughter has had it with how young she is and hearing that kids have died from it. Fortunately, she's healed very well with the antibiotics. We are much more careful with cleanliness even more so than we were before. Hopefully, they will keep coming up with better antibiotics to fight this superbug! Corie, C4-5, incomplete Redding, CA - Original Message - From: Merrill Burghardt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] MRSA Las month I was cultured as a MRSA carrier. MRSA is a resistant infection which is spreading in hospitals. Apparently I am only a carrier but suspicious looking circular sores are developing on my inner thighs. I have read about this but have never spoken with anyone who has or had it. One person had it and lost a foot. My doctors will not treat it as they believe it will only become further resistance. Have a story? Merrill
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MRSA will show up in blood cultures or when a sore is cultured. The doctor should always do a culture/sensitivity test to determine which antibiotic would best kill the infection. Here's something else you should know: Methicillin: A semisynthetic penicillin-related antibiotic, also known as Staphcillin, that once was effective against staphylococci (staph) resistant to penicillin because they produce the enzyme penicillinase. Rarely used now, methicillin has been largely superceded by Vancomycin. Over the past 50 years, staph bacteria have become resistant to various antibiotics, including the commonly used penicillin-related antibiotics, including methicillin. These resistant bacteria are called methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA. There are other antibiotics that can kill a non-MRSA infection like Keflex, Keflon (the IV form of Keflex) and Cipro. In a message dated 4/2/2008 8:21:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, DAANOO writes: I guess they don't test you unless they see some kind of signs of it on your skin? Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316)
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My doctors refuse to treat my MRSA. I have the sore which they monitor but still believe I am better left not treated. What do you think? The sore is managed ONLY by keeping in bed treating the sore on my inner thigh as a heat rash which it is not. My healthcare is VA, think I should just watch the sore grow or treat the MRSA? Merrill _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:00 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MRSA MRSA will show up in blood cultures or when a sore is cultured. The doctor should always do a culture/sensitivity test to determine which antibiotic would best kill the infection. Here's something else you should know: Methicillin: A semisynthetic penicillin-related antibiotic, also known as Staphcillin, that once was effective against staphylococci (staph) resistant to penicillin because they produce the enzyme penicillinase. Rarely used now, methicillin has been largely superceded by Vancomycin. Over the past 50 years, staph bacteria have become resistant to various antibiotics, including the commonly used penicillin-related antibiotics, including methicillin. These resistant bacteria are called methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA. There are other antibiotics that can kill a non-MRSA infection like Keflex, Keflon (the IV form of Keflex) and Cipro. In a message dated 4/2/2008 8:21:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, DAANOO writes: I guess they don't test you unless they see some kind of signs of it on your skin? Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. _ Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316 Travel Guides.
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Has the sore been cultured and a sensitivity test done? No one can look at a sore and say you have a MRSA infection. In a message dated 4/3/2008 1:57:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My doctors refuse to treat my MRSA. I have the sore which they monitor but still believe I am better left not treated. What do you think? The sore is managed ONLY by keeping in bed treating the sore on my inner thigh as a heat rash which it is not. My healthcare is VA, think I should just watch the sore grow or treat the MRSA? Bill aka Ding Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316)
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Hi Merril, I'm not sure if one of the many responses he got so far have mentioned this yet but studies to show that between 1/3 and 1/2 of all nurses and other employees and medical institutions are colonized with MRSA. Many, many people in the community carry MRSA... primarily in the nose... yet never contract any infections. Hospitals are a major breeding ground for MRSA and many of the cleaning solutions that use don't remain active long enough to kill it (although there have been some new long-lasting silver-based cleaning products that show some hope). Even though they clean hospital rooms relatively well between patients all you have to do is look at the blood pressure cuffs and electronic devices moving from one room to the next to the next, etc., watch a nurse take a pencil from a pocket and write down stats then put it back even if you're in isolation and everybody wears gloves. I have asked nurses and doctors many times to change gloves if I arrive for an appointment in a stretcher and they use a gloved hand to unbuckle belts and lower the side. So many other people have used a stretcher and so many other people have touched it that I absolutely DO NOT want a gloved hand that touched it getting anywhere near an open wound! (I will say that both doctors and nurses do get a bit indignant about it because they know what they're doing... but tough nuggets.) Also, since I've had MRSA since 2006 in both bone and wound tissue, I have been very conscious to make sure people remove gloves immediately after touching anything near my wound before they touch anything else. The messages are making it to the larger medical population. Now that there's Community-Associated MRSA it's people who get tattoos and piercings who need to be conscious about the same things. Now THEY need to treat those facilities and the people who run them as strictly as they would if they were in a hospital room. Hope this information is useful to you and anybody else on the list. Best regards, Tod E. Santee - Original Message - From: Merrill Burghardt To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] MRSA Las month I was cultured as a MRSA carrier. MRSA is a resistant infection which is spreading in hospitals. Apparently I am only a carrier but suspicious looking circular sores are developing on my inner thighs. I have read about this but have never spoken with anyone who has or had it. One person had it and lost a foot. My doctors will not treat it as they believe it will only become further resistance. Have a story? Merrill
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Merril, I hate to say it, but Mikey3 is right and I think you might be getting some bad advice. [Emphasize might] By the time my MRSA was a problem for me, in other words it was part of a sore, I immediately had to go on IV antibiotics. I used a PICC line for six weeks to infuse vancomycin in 2006. When it reemerged in 2007 my body wasn't handling Vanco very well so I had to use another PICC line another 6 weeks with Rocefin (sp?). After using the Vanco in 2006 a small sore about the size of a dime opened on my low leg far from my original infection. That was able to be successfully treated with a combination of oral Bactrim (sulfa) and Doxycycline (in the tetracycline family) over 14 days. Because of my two major outbreaks and the bone involvement I'm now on what is expected to be a lifetime of Bactrim or some oral antibiotic. If it reemerges in the same place I'll likely be looking at a hemipelvectomy... the removal of half my pelvis and the leg on that side. Even a successful surgery of this kind is extremely risky, takes about six surgeons, and has a terrible record of post surgical infection, necrosis and even death. If you can, I'd suggest getting a second opinion perhaps by someone outside the VA. Please understand I'm not trying to scare you or anybody else. Just letting you know my experiences and that of other people I've known who've had similar situations. Best regards (and best health!), Tod Has the sore been cultured and a sensitivity test done? No one can look at a sore and say you have a MRSA infection. In a message dated 4/3/2008 1:57:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My doctors refuse to treat my MRSA. I have the sore which they monitor but still believe I am better left not treated. What do you think? The sore is managed ONLY by keeping in bed treating the sore on my inner thigh as a heat rash which it is not. My healthcare is VA, think I should just watch the sore grow or treat the MRSA? Bill aka Ding Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. -- Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides.
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_http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/mrsa/DS00735_ (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/mrsa/DS00735) In a message dated 4/2/2008 4:26:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On my last hospital admittance, a culture from a nose swab was taken before being assigned a room. When the culture was returned it was positive for MRSA. So I was not given much of an explanation but I was not concerned until shown my bed which seemed to have red skull cross bones warning of hazard bios materials. I waited for my nurse to come looking around my four bed room with my one empty bed. Why was I in this room with the roommates I now saw with avoidance and distrust. In short time my nurse showed up in full bee keeper attire. She, along with any other I could grab an ear to bend were not concerned speaking about my newly learned condition of this super bug in the hospital and myself. One of the now fellow MRSA roommates had just had his foot amputated due to MRSA. Not to worry, this is only because the virus got into an opening but I should not worry. Well f this, that, and whatever else is next. Now I understand that the watery blisters on my inner thigh is not a heat rash. Not to worry as only one layer of skin was broken and the area was well contained. This is what being a MRSA carrier is. Merrill From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 6:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MRSA What does it mean to be a carrier? Dana Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. _Watch the video on AOL Home_ (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15ncid=aolhom00030 1) . Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316)
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It's important to remember that you do not have to be in a hospital or nursing home to get MRSA. You can get it simply because you've had staph infections often enough (and been treated with antibiotics as often) that your body has built up a tolerance/resistance to many of the antibiotics. In a message dated 4/2/2008 7:05:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: methicillin resistent staphallococus aureus is a bacteria tranmitted in the hospital or nursing home situation where it is carried from one to other patient by the hospital personnel hence they are required to wear mask ,gloves gowns Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316)
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Hi Bill, Thank you for the information about MRSA. I had thought what wheelchair said was the only way you could get. I guess they don't test you unless they see some kind of signs of it on your skin? Dana In a message dated 4/2/2008 6:54:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's important to remember that you do not have to be in a hospital or nursing home to get MRSA. You can get it simply because you've had staph infections often enough (and been treated with antibiotics as often) that your body has built up a tolerance/resistance to many of the antibiotics. In a message dated 4/2/2008 7:05:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: methicillin resistent staphallococus aureus is a bacteria tranmitted in the hospital or nursing home situation where it is carried from one to other patient by the hospital personnel hence they are required to wear mask ,gloves gowns Bill C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68 Age 57 Leesburg, FL Very funny, Scotty. Now beam up my clothes. Planning your summer road trip? Check out _AOL Travel Guides_ (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) . **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316)
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It's been quite some years, but I was diagnosed with MRSA, but I'm still not sure if I actually had it. I had been in the hospital for about six months during my initial rehabilitation and they discovered some discharge coming from my trachea stoma, which was closing up fine. They took a swab and it came back with the disease, but like all of the hospital personnel, I had MRSA sitting on my skin. The worst part was discovering that I am allergic to vancomycin. I am able to take it slowly for a while, but it eventually turned red all over and get uncontrollable itching. They can probably give it to me if they put me in a pharmaceutically induced coma, but I know I couldn't take the itching. It would drive me absolutely over the edge. Whoever said you can get it anywhere, was exactly correct. Just be careful and make sure people wash their hands. At least that's my view on the subject. Quadius On 4/2/08, Merrill Burghardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my last hospital admittance, a culture from a nose swab was taken before being assigned a room. When the culture was returned it was positive for MRSA. So I was not given much of an explanation but I was not concerned until shown my bed which seemed to have red skull cross bones warning of hazard bios materials. I waited for my nurse to come looking around my four bed room with my one empty bed. Why was I in this room with the roommates I now saw with avoidance and distrust. In short time my nurse showed up in full bee keeper attire. She, along with any other I could grab an ear to bend were not concerned speaking about my newly learned condition of this super bug in the hospital and myself. One of the now fellow MRSA roommates had just had his foot amputated due to MRSA. Not to worry, this is only because the virus got into an opening but I should not worry. Well f this, that, and whatever else is next. Now I understand that the watery blisters on my inner thigh is not a heat rash. Not to worry as only one layer of skin was broken and the area was well contained. This is what being a MRSA carrier is. Merrill -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 01, 2008 6:53 PM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] MRSA What does it mean to be a carrier? Dana -- Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Homehttp://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15ncid=aolhom000301 .
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Hi Merrill, I got MRSA from a family member who had the same pimple looking, circular sores. Mine developed in my inner thigh area also and was untreated for a month because at first we were not sure what they were, thinking they were ingrown hairs (from shaving) or pimples, but they got worse and spread. My family member who was the person I believe gave it to me, hers was under her armpit and later on her stomach and much bigger than mine and the doctor never diagnosed her with MRSA, just called it a bacterial staff infection. It was only after I got it and was properly diagnosed, luckily by my home care nurse that comes in once a month, that we realized hers was the same thing I had. I was first treated with the wrong antibiotic, although it was healing it a little, but then I was put on the right antibiotics and they cleared right up. They left scars for a while, but those are finally fading too. It's a scary thing to know you've had it and I'm sure I'm a carrier for it now also. In fact, my 2-year-old daughter also got one of the bumps on her butt area that would not heal and got bigger and took her to the doctor and was told it was MRSA and she was put on antibiotics (sulfa) and it healed. And it very much worries me that my daughter has had it with how young she is and hearing that kids have died from it. Fortunately, she's healed very well with the antibiotics. We are much more careful with cleanliness even more so than we were before. Hopefully, they will keep coming up with better antibiotics to fight this superbug! Corie, C4-5, incomplete Redding, CA - Original Message - From: Merrill Burghardt To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] MRSA Las month I was cultured as a MRSA carrier. MRSA is a resistant infection which is spreading in hospitals. Apparently I am only a carrier but suspicious looking circular sores are developing on my inner thighs. I have read about this but have never spoken with anyone who has or had it. One person had it and lost a foot. My doctors will not treat it as they believe it will only become further resistance. Have a story? Merrill
