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y'all are scaring me! the only back-up i have on my van is for the 0-effort steering. it has a button to push should something happen to that for whatever reason. should i have a back up system on hand controls or check the brand? other than that, it's a 07 caravan with EZ-locks. Ive had two situations in my van that were crazy.One time I pressed down on the monarch hand control from a stop light and the accelerator got stuck at 85 percent throttle. The other time I was coming down a hill and the engine died, the people that installed my hand controls never accounted for the engine being off when you apply the brake using the hand control. Because I had to press much harder because the engine died there wasn't enough travel for the control and the control was hitting the dashboard and I couldn't stop. I quickly put the emergency brake on, then pressed as hard as I could on the hand control bending the plastic on the dash. I was able to get about 60 percent brake control and the added help from the emergency brake to be able to top just short of a pole. I mean only 20 feet to spare. Ron -Original Message- From: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net To: Quad-list Post quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Mar 29, 2015 8:15 pm Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Cushions Ive had two situations in my van that were crazy.One time I pressed down on the monarch hand control from a stop light and the accelerator got stuck at 85 percent throttle. The other time I was coming down a hill and the engine died, the people that installed my hand controls never accounted for the engine being off when you apply the brake using the hand control. Because I had to press much harder because the engine died there wasn't enough travel for the control and the control was hitting the dashboard and I couldn't stop. I quickly put the emergency brake on, then pressed as hard as I could on the hand control bending the plastic on the dash. I was able to get about 60 percent brake control and the added help from the emergency brake to be able to top just short of a pole. I mean only 20 feet to spare. Ron On Sunday, March 29, 2015 2:47 PM, Joan Anglin poaj...@sbcglobal.net wrote: WOW, and I thought that breaking my leg when my chair brakes failed was traumatic! But here you are still contributing to this group, thank goodness. Glad that you made it through what had to have been a miserable time of your life. Joan From: lwillis...@yahoo.com [mailto:lwillis...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 10:17 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Cushions Back in the nineties I bought a brand new Caravan, an IMS conversion. The tie-down was a floor-post with the latch on the chair. In the first month it released me twice without cause. Fortunately I was going slow and able to stop both times. Until On July 14 I backed out of my parents drive. I pulled it into drive and pulled back on the accelerator. The van lurched forwardand my tie-down released. The van picked up speed and I went rolling helplessly to the back of the van. I left the road, jumped a ditch, and hit a large tree head-on at 45 mph. I was thrown forward violently and jammed under the dashboard. The van was totaled. It took EMT nearly three hours to get me out. My chair was bent like a pretzel, my legs broke and knees shattered, concussion and internal bleeding. The docs wanted to amputate my legs but I refused. Today they stay bent and spastic and make me miserable. I should have let them cut. Anyway, that's how I broke my legs. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com Date: March 28, 2015 at 10:34:02 PM EDT To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Cushions Hit a tree in my van. I'll fill in the details tomorrow. Larry Willis Retired and proud of it Begin forwarded message
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I also had 2 driving scares of being out of control. 1. I had a shoulder strap that hooked by a metal ring, attached to the shoulder strap, to a hook on the floor. I moved a certain way and the ring came off of the hook ... so now I was laying on the steering wheel traveling about 40mph I aplyed the push break and came to a full stop but not until I went up over the curb, onto the grass, and stopped 1 foot in front of a telephone pole. 2. I was driving, Pete was with me, when out of the blue the shoulder strap, that was mounted to the ceiling by 2 bolts, just came off all of a sudden. I was, again, laying against the steering wheel and managed to apply the break. Pete and I switched seats and he drove home. 3. I was driving using a U grip for steering and the brackets just came apart onto the floor and I was holding the steering pin off the steering wheel. I was only 1 mile from home and managed to steer home by putting my hand in between the Y of the steering wheel. 4. Two different times I ended up with my bak-end of my van stuck in a ditch. Thus was my first van that (fir some unknown reason) I had posie-traction installed. So I just floored the van and the posie-traction kicked in to gear and both times I literally bolted out, air born of my ditch(s). Another time the posie-traction kicked in was when I was back a boat into the water on a slippery ramp. I didn't want my muffler to go in the water so I floored it and the van flew once again. One time I got stuck on ice, in February, by a remote lake all alone ... before cell phones. It was about 4:00 I got on my CB radio to call for help. The tow truck AND police care also got stuck and another tow truck had to rescue us all. Bobbie Smile Everyday On Mar 30, 2015, at 7:13 AM, lwillis...@yahoo.com wrote: Wow, Ron. I can just imagine those moments when you were trying to regain control. That helpless feeling of panic is simply beyond description. I know I don't have the trust in my controls that I once did. I try to limit my solo driving as well. For some reason I always think, What if this thing catches on fire? I guess I am paranoid. I do keep a fire extinguisher on board. Anyway, Ron, I am certainly glad you came out unscathed. Our lives are tough enough without these little escapades. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net Date: March 29, 2015 at 8:15:15 PM EDT To: Quad-list Post quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Cushions Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net Ive had two situations in my van that were crazy.One time I pressed down on the monarch hand control from a stop light and the accelerator got stuck at 85 percent throttle. The other time I was coming down a hill and the engine died, the people that installed my hand controls never accounted for the engine being off when you apply the brake using the hand control. Because I had to press much harder because the engine died there wasn't enough travel for the control and the control was hitting the dashboard and I couldn't stop. I quickly put the emergency brake on, then pressed as hard as I could on the hand control bending the plastic on the dash. I was able to get about 60 percent brake control and the added help from the emergency brake to be able to top just short of a pole. I mean only 20 feet to spare. Ron On Sunday, March 29, 2015 2:47 PM, Joan Anglin poaj...@sbcglobal.net wrote: WOW, and I thought that breaking my leg when my chair brakes failed was traumatic! But here you are still contributing to this group, thank goodness. Glad that you made it through what had to have been a miserable time of your life. Joan From: lwillis...@yahoo.com [mailto:lwillis...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 10:17 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Cushions Back in the nineties I bought a brand new Caravan, an IMS conversion. The tie-down was a floor-post with the latch on the chair. In the first month it released me twice without cause. Fortunately I was going slow and able to stop both times. Until On July 14 I backed out of my parents drive. I pulled it into drive and pulled back on the accelerator. The van lurched forwardand my tie-down released. The van picked up speed and I went rolling helplessly to the back of the van. I left the road, jumped a ditch, and hit a large tree head-on at 45 mph. I was thrown forward violently and jammed under the dashboard. The van was totaled. It took EMT nearly three hours to get me out. My chair was bent like a pretzel, my legs broke and knees shattered, concussion and internal bleeding. The docs wanted to amputate my legs but I refused. Today they stay bent and spastic and make me miserable. I should have let them cut. Anyway, that's how I broke my legs. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded
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back up steering and Back-up braking is only designed to be used for a short distance/period of time. more or less enough just to get the vehicle to the curb. as for some of the other incidents that folks encountered are sad to hear but absolutely frightening as they are all life threatening. When I was in themobility business we had incidents occur, why they occurred could be a stupid technician, bolts or fasteners from China or even the client not telling the technician or checking that the repair was really done. The key to any of this equipment is to have it maintained every six months or so by knowledgeable caring mobility dealer or a great mechanically knowledgeable friend. Good Luck to all-nothing is perfect.Tom C. On Monday, March 30, 2015 4:13 PM, Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com wrote: Me too. I have the back-up steering. Bobbie Smile Everyday On Mar 30, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com wrote: The van I have now, a Ford E150, has backup steering and brakes, a switch and button mounted on the door. I don't know if they actually work as I have never had to use them. They do come on when pressed, so that's a good sign. Hope I never need them. Larry WillisRetired and proud of it Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: diannal...@aol.com Date: March 30, 2015 at 11:38:39 AM EDT To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Cushions y'all are scaring me! the only back-up i have on my van is for the 0-effort steering. it has a button to push should something happen to that for whatever reason. should i have a back up system on hand controls or check the brand? other than that, it's a 07 caravan with EZ-locks. Ive had two situations in my van that were crazy.One time I pressed down on the monarch hand control from a stop light and the accelerator got stuck at 85 percent throttle. The other time I was coming down a hill and the engine died, the people that installed my hand controls never accounted for the engine being off when you apply the brake using the hand control. Because I had to press much harder because the engine died there wasn't enough travel for the control and the control was hitting the dashboard and I couldn't stop. I quickly put the emergency brake on, then pressed as hard as I could on the hand control bending the plastic on the dash. I was able to get about 60 percent brake control and the added help from the emergency brake to be able to top just short of a pole. I mean only 20 feet to spare. Ron -Original Message- From: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net To: Quad-list Post quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Mar 29, 2015 8:15 pm Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Cushions Ive had two situations in my van that were crazy.One time I pressed down on the monarch hand control from a stop light and the accelerator got stuck at 85 percent throttle. The other time I was coming down a hill and the engine died, the people that installed my hand controls never accounted for the engine being off when you apply the brake using the hand control. Because I had to press much harder because the engine died there wasn't enough travel for the control and the control was hitting the dashboard and I couldn't stop. I quickly put the emergency brake on, then pressed as hard as I could on the hand control bending the plastic on the dash. I was able to get about 60 percent brake control and the added help from the emergency brake to be able to top just short of a pole. I mean only 20 feet to spare. Ron On Sunday, March 29, 2015 2:47 PM, Joan Anglin poaj...@sbcglobal.net wrote: #yiv2952633485 #yiv2952633485AOLMsgPart_2_672f99b6-6db2-4251-80f6-406b8703d02a td{color:black;}#yiv2952633485 .yiv2952633485aolReplacedBody -- filtered {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;}#yiv2952633485 .yiv2952633485aolReplacedBody filtered {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}#yiv2952633485 .yiv2952633485aolReplacedBody filtered {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv2952633485 .yiv2952633485aolReplacedBody filtered {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv2952633485 .yiv2952633485aolReplacedBody p.yiv2952633485MsoNormal, #yiv2952633485 .yiv2952633485aolReplacedBody li.yiv2952633485MsoNormal, #yiv2952633485 .yiv2952633485aolReplacedBody div.yiv2952633485MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv2952633485 .yiv2952633485aolReplacedBody a:link, #yiv2952633485 .yiv2952633485aolReplacedBody span.yiv2952633485MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2952633485 .yiv2952633485aolReplacedBody a:visited, #yiv2952633485 .yiv2952633485aolReplacedBody span.yiv2952633485MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2952633485 .yiv2952633485aolReplacedBody span.yiv2952633485EmailStyle17 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv2952633485 .yiv2952633485aolReplacedBody
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Me too. I have the back-up steering. Bobbie Smile Everyday On Mar 30, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com wrote: The van I have now, a Ford E150, has backup steering and brakes, a switch and button mounted on the door. I don't know if they actually work as I have never had to use them. They do come on when pressed, so that's a good sign. Hope I never need them. Larry Willis Retired and proud of it Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: diannal...@aol.com Date: March 30, 2015 at 11:38:39 AM EDT To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Cushions y'all are scaring me! the only back-up i have on my van is for the 0-effort steering. it has a button to push should something happen to that for whatever reason. should i have a back up system on hand controls or check the brand? other than that, it's a 07 caravan with EZ-locks. Ive had two situations in my van that were crazy.One time I pressed down on the monarch hand control from a stop light and the accelerator got stuck at 85 percent throttle. The other time I was coming down a hill and the engine died, the people that installed my hand controls never accounted for the engine being off when you apply the brake using the hand control. Because I had to press much harder because the engine died there wasn't enough travel for the control and the control was hitting the dashboard and I couldn't stop. I quickly put the emergency brake on, then pressed as hard as I could on the hand control bending the plastic on the dash. I was able to get about 60 percent brake control and the added help from the emergency brake to be able to top just short of a pole. I mean only 20 feet to spare. Ron -Original Message- From: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net To: Quad-list Post quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Mar 29, 2015 8:15 pm Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Cushions Ive had two situations in my van that were crazy.One time I pressed down on the monarch hand control from a stop light and the accelerator got stuck at 85 percent throttle. The other time I was coming down a hill and the engine died, the people that installed my hand controls never accounted for the engine being off when you apply the brake using the hand control. Because I had to press much harder because the engine died there wasn't enough travel for the control and the control was hitting the dashboard and I couldn't stop. I quickly put the emergency brake on, then pressed as hard as I could on the hand control bending the plastic on the dash. I was able to get about 60 percent brake control and the added help from the emergency brake to be able to top just short of a pole. I mean only 20 feet to spare. Ron On Sunday, March 29, 2015 2:47 PM, Joan Anglin poaj...@sbcglobal.net wrote: WOW, and I thought that breaking my leg when my chair brakes failed was traumatic! But here you are still contributing to this group, thank goodness. Glad that you made it through what had to have been a miserable time of your life. Joan From: lwillis...@yahoo.com [mailto:lwillis...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 10:17 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Cushions Back in the nineties I bought a brand new Caravan, an IMS conversion. The tie-down was a floor-post with the latch on the chair. In the first month it released me twice without cause. Fortunately I was going slow and able to stop both times. Until On July 14 I backed out of my parents drive. I pulled it into drive and pulled back on the accelerator. The van lurched forwardand my tie-down released. The van picked up speed and I went rolling helplessly to the back of the van. I left the road, jumped a ditch, and hit a large tree head-on at 45 mph. I was thrown forward violently and jammed under the dashboard. The van was totaled. It took EMT nearly three hours to get me out. My chair was bent like a pretzel, my legs broke and knees shattered, concussion and internal bleeding. The docs wanted to amputate my legs but I refused. Today they stay bent and spastic and make me miserable. I should have let them cut. Anyway, that's how I broke my legs. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com Date: March 28, 2015 at 10:34:02 PM EDT To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Cushions Hit a tree in my van. I'll fill in the details tomorrow. Larry Willis Retired and proud of it Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net Date: March 28, 2015 at 8:53:11 PM EDT To: Quad-list Post quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Cushions Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net How did you break your legs Larry? I would like to hear the story
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I don't drive myself, but I had 1 small scare. I was in the van, my 70 year old mother driving. We pull up to a drive through window at the drug store. My mother has to open the door to get to the drawer to get the meds out. The van popped out of park and started rolling backward. My mother was half way out standing on 1 foot. She starts hopping backwards trying to get back in the van. She could not keep up and finely fell backwards falling under the door. Getting squished between the bottom of the door and the stone wall of the pharmacy. The door got bent completely backwards. Then while I'm in the back of the van, the van is rolling away by itself. Finely crashing into the stone wall. Luckily the van rolled slowly and hit nobody. But kind of a strange feeling rolling away by myself. Luckily mom was not hurt. Greg I also had 2 driving scares of being out of control.
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Great stories Bobbie thanks for sharing. Joan From: Gmail [mailto:bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 2:12 PM To: lwillis...@yahoo.com Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Cushions I also had 2 driving scares of being out of control. 1. I had a shoulder strap that hooked by a metal ring, attached to the shoulder strap, to a hook on the floor. I moved a certain way and the ring came off of the hook ... so now I was laying on the steering wheel traveling about 40mph I aplyed the push break and came to a full stop but not until I went up over the curb, onto the grass, and stopped 1 foot in front of a telephone pole. 2. I was driving, Pete was with me, when out of the blue the shoulder strap, that was mounted to the ceiling by 2 bolts, just came off all of a sudden. I was, again, laying against the steering wheel and managed to apply the break. Pete and I switched seats and he drove home. 3. I was driving using a U grip for steering and the brackets just came apart onto the floor and I was holding the steering pin off the steering wheel. I was only 1 mile from home and managed to steer home by putting my hand in between the Y of the steering wheel. 4. Two different times I ended up with my bak-end of my van stuck in a ditch. Thus was my first van that (fir some unknown reason) I had posie-traction installed. So I just floored the van and the posie-traction kicked in to gear and both times I literally bolted out, air born of my ditch(s). Another time the posie-traction kicked in was when I was back a boat into the water on a slippery ramp. I didn't want my muffler to go in the water so I floored it and the van flew once again. One time I got stuck on ice, in February, by a remote lake all alone ... before cell phones. It was about 4:00 I got on my CB radio to call for help. The tow truck AND police care also got stuck and another tow truck had to rescue us all. Bobbie Smile Everyday On Mar 30, 2015, at 7:13 AM, lwillis...@yahoo.com wrote: Wow, Ron. I can just imagine those moments when you were trying to regain control. That helpless feeling of panic is simply beyond description. I know I don't have the trust in my controls that I once did. I try to limit my solo driving as well. For some reason I always think, What if this thing catches on fire? I guess I am paranoid. I do keep a fire extinguisher on board. Anyway, Ron, I am certainly glad you came out unscathed. Our lives are tough enough without these little escapades. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net Date: March 29, 2015 at 8:15:15 PM EDT To: Quad-list Post quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Cushions Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net Ive had two situations in my van that were crazy.One time I pressed down on the monarch hand control from a stop light and the accelerator got stuck at 85 percent throttle. The other time I was coming down a hill and the engine died, the people that installed my hand controls never accounted for the engine being off when you apply the brake using the hand control. Because I had to press much harder because the engine died there wasn't enough travel for the control and the control was hitting the dashboard and I couldn't stop. I quickly put the emergency brake on, then pressed as hard as I could on the hand control bending the plastic on the dash. I was able to get about 60 percent brake control and the added help from the emergency brake to be able to top just short of a pole. I mean only 20 feet to spare. Ron On Sunday, March 29, 2015 2:47 PM, Joan Anglin poaj...@sbcglobal.net wrote: WOW, and I thought that breaking my leg when my chair brakes failed was traumatic! But here you are still contributing to this group, thank goodness. Glad that you made it through what had to have been a miserable time of your life. Joan From: lwillis...@yahoo.com [mailto:lwillis...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 10:17 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Cushions Back in the nineties I bought a brand new Caravan, an IMS conversion. The tie-down was a floor-post with the latch on the chair. In the first month it released me twice without cause. Fortunately I was going slow and able to stop both times. Until On July 14 I backed out of my parents drive. I pulled it into drive and pulled back on the accelerator. The van lurched forwardand my tie-down released. The van picked up speed and I went rolling helplessly to the back of the van. I left the road, jumped a ditch, and hit a large tree head-on at 45 mph. I was thrown forward violently and jammed under the dashboard. The van was totaled. It took EMT nearly three hours to get me out. My chair was bent like a pretzel, my legs broke and knees shattered, concussion and internal bleeding. The docs wanted to amputate
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Ive had two situations in my van that were crazy.One time I pressed down on the monarch hand control from a stop light and the accelerator got stuck at 85 percent throttle. The other time I was coming down a hill and the engine died, the people that installed my hand controls never accounted for the engine being off when you apply the brake using the hand control. Because I had to press much harder because the engine died there wasn't enough travel for the control and the control was hitting the dashboard and I couldn't stop. I quickly put the emergency brake on, then pressed as hard as I could on the hand control bending the plastic on the dash. I was able to get about 60 percent brake control and the added help from the emergency brake to be able to top just short of a pole. I mean only 20 feet to spare. Ron On Sunday, March 29, 2015 2:47 PM, Joan Anglin poaj...@sbcglobal.net wrote: #yiv4360551755 #yiv4360551755 -- _filtered #yiv4360551755 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv4360551755 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv4360551755 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv4360551755 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv4360551755 #yiv4360551755 p.yiv4360551755MsoNormal, #yiv4360551755 li.yiv4360551755MsoNormal, #yiv4360551755 div.yiv4360551755MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv4360551755 a:link, #yiv4360551755 span.yiv4360551755MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4360551755 a:visited, #yiv4360551755 span.yiv4360551755MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4360551755 span.yiv4360551755EmailStyle17 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv4360551755 .yiv4360551755MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv4360551755 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv4360551755 div.yiv4360551755WordSection1 {}#yiv4360551755 WOW, and I thought that breaking my leg when my chair brakes failed was traumatic! But here you are still contributing to this group, thank goodness.Glad that you made it through what had to have been a miserable time of your life. Joan From: lwillis...@yahoo.com [mailto:lwillis...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 10:17 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Cushions Back in the nineties I bought a brand new Caravan, an IMS conversion. The tie-down was a floor-post with the latch on the chair. In the first month it released me twice without cause. Fortunately I was going slow and able to stop both times. Until On July 14 I backed out of my parents drive. I pulled it into drive and pulled back on the accelerator. The van lurched forwardand my tie-down released. The van picked up speed and I went rolling helplessly to the back of the van. I left the road, jumped a ditch, and hit a large tree head-on at 45 mph. I was thrown forward violently and jammed under the dashboard. The van was totaled. It took EMT nearly three hours to get me out. My chair was bent like a pretzel, my legs broke and knees shattered, concussion and internal bleeding. The docs wanted to amputate my legs but I refused. Today they stay bent and spastic and make me miserable. I should have let them cut. Anyway, that's how I broke my legs. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com Date: March 28, 2015 at 10:34:02 PM EDT To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Cushions Hit a tree in my van. I'll fill in the details tomorrow. Larry WillisRetired and proud of it Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net Date: March 28, 2015 at 8:53:11 PM EDT To: Quad-list Post quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Cushions Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net How did you break your legs Larry? I would like to hear the story. Ron On Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:37 PM, Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com wrote: For the first 25 years of my quad life I used a simple ten dollar inflatable cushionor nothing. I never had even a hint of a sore. Then I broke both legs and had to wear casts for six months. The lousy things created awful sores on my heels, ankles, knees, everywhere the cast touched with any pressure. It was like that opened the floodgates. I have fought sores constantly since then. They simply will not heal. I have three right now -- on my butt, hip, and ankle. Had them for over five years. I have resigned to take them with me to the grave. I am near 63 years old; can't be that much longer. Larry Willis Retired and proud of it
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Hey Larry, don't say it won't be much longer ... you're not allowed to leave me behind and I'm not ready to leave yet!!! 3 Your Quad Twin On Saturday, March 28, 2015 8:37 PM, Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com wrote: For the first 25 years of my quad life I used a simple ten dollar inflatable cushionor nothing. I never had even a hint of a sore. Then I broke both legs and had to wear casts for six months. The lousy things created awful sores on my heels, ankles, knees, everywhere the cast touched with any pressure. It was like that opened the floodgates. I have fought sores constantly since then. They simply will not heal. I have three right now -- on my butt, hip, and ankle. Had them for over five years. I have resigned to take them with me to the grave. I am near 63 years old; can't be that much longer. Larry Willis Retired and proud of it
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WOW, and I thought that breaking my leg when my chair brakes failed was traumatic! But here you are still contributing to this group, thank goodness. Glad that you made it through what had to have been a miserable time of your life. Joan From: lwillis...@yahoo.com [mailto:lwillis...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 10:17 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Cushions Back in the nineties I bought a brand new Caravan, an IMS conversion. The tie-down was a floor-post with the latch on the chair. In the first month it released me twice without cause. Fortunately I was going slow and able to stop both times. Until On July 14 I backed out of my parents drive. I pulled it into drive and pulled back on the accelerator. The van lurched forwardand my tie-down released. The van picked up speed and I went rolling helplessly to the back of the van. I left the road, jumped a ditch, and hit a large tree head-on at 45 mph. I was thrown forward violently and jammed under the dashboard. The van was totaled. It took EMT nearly three hours to get me out. My chair was bent like a pretzel, my legs broke and knees shattered, concussion and internal bleeding. The docs wanted to amputate my legs but I refused. Today they stay bent and spastic and make me miserable. I should have let them cut. Anyway, that's how I broke my legs. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com Date: March 28, 2015 at 10:34:02 PM EDT To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Cushions Hit a tree in my van. I'll fill in the details tomorrow. Larry Willis Retired and proud of it Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net Date: March 28, 2015 at 8:53:11 PM EDT To: Quad-list Post quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Cushions Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net How did you break your legs Larry? I would like to hear the story. Ron On Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:37 PM, Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com wrote: For the first 25 years of my quad life I used a simple ten dollar inflatable cushionor nothing. I never had even a hint of a sore. Then I broke both legs and had to wear casts for six months. The lousy things created awful sores on my heels, ankles, knees, everywhere the cast touched with any pressure. It was like that opened the floodgates. I have fought sores constantly since then. They simply will not heal. I have three right now -- on my butt, hip, and ankle. Had them for over five years. I have resigned to take them with me to the grave. I am near 63 years old; can't be that much longer. Larry Willis Retired and proud of it
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How did you break your legs Larry? I would like to hear the story. Ron On Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:37 PM, Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com wrote: For the first 25 years of my quad life I used a simple ten dollar inflatable cushionor nothing. I never had even a hint of a sore. Then I broke both legs and had to wear casts for six months. The lousy things created awful sores on my heels, ankles, knees, everywhere the cast touched with any pressure. It was like that opened the floodgates. I have fought sores constantly since then. They simply will not heal. I have three right now -- on my butt, hip, and ankle. Had them for over five years. I have resigned to take them with me to the grave. I am near 63 years old; can't be that much longer. Larry Willis Retired and proud of it
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I think most of us have enjoyed you being around and reading your post Larry. We hope you will hang tight for a lot longer. Sixty three is not old. I may have missed some news, so forgive me I should already know this but I must ask, how is your wife? She was in ICU I recall a while back. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2015, at 9:34 PM, Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com wrote: Hit a tree in my van. I'll fill in the details tomorrow. Larry Willis Retired and proud of it Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net Date: March 28, 2015 at 8:53:11 PM EDT To: Quad-list Post quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Cushions Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net How did you break your legs Larry? I would like to hear the story. Ron On Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:37 PM, Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com wrote: For the first 25 years of my quad life I used a simple ten dollar inflatable cushionor nothing. I never had even a hint of a sore. Then I broke both legs and had to wear casts for six months. The lousy things created awful sores on my heels, ankles, knees, everywhere the cast touched with any pressure. It was like that opened the floodgates. I have fought sores constantly since then. They simply will not heal. I have three right now -- on my butt, hip, and ankle. Had them for over five years. I have resigned to take them with me to the grave. I am near 63 years old; can't be that much longer. Larry Willis Retired and proud of it
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Hi Q, You have to take into your calculations how much your body has changed over the past 11 years. It may not seem much, but as you age, the changes will add-up. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka Dave C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post Texas, USA Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been noticing that I am shifting a little each day in my chair and I wonder if this is because my cushion doesn't work for me as well as it used to. I have had this particular cushion for more than 11 years with no problems, but I am really wondering. I do have a new Roho Quattro cushion, but it doesn't fit this particular chair and it sits quite a bit higher than I am now. It is important that I maintain my current height and not go with anything taller. It's difficult enough for me to get in and out of my Van, I don't want to add to the problem. Quadius On 5/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That Is a Really Good Question , I think we have to have a change in our condition? Is there a number of years? I don't know either. Dana - See what's free at AOL.com.
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To answer the first question, no I have not ever been pressure mapped. The second question is also a no. Right now I am not, knock on wood, experiencing any difficulties with pressure points on my rear end. It is just more a matter that I notice my position will slightly change throughout the day. I usually end up in the same position and it doesn't seem to cause anything other than a little shoulder pain. Usually when I put a tad bit more air in my cushion this problem is resolved, but I always try to be careful not to have too much air. As for what cushion I am using, it is a Roho. Thanks for the concern Quadius On 5/23/07, Dan T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quadius, are you getting increased pressure marks from sitting. If you are, you should really address the issue as you do not want to get pressure sores. What kind of cushion have you been using for 11 years? Have you had someone adjust the Quattro that knows how to do it? let me know how you're doing... good luck, Dan T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It may not be the cushion, but rather changes taking place in/with your body. Have you ever had a pressure mapping session to determine those changes? Best Wishes W In a message dated 5/23/2007 6:22:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been noticing that I am shifting a little each day in my chair and I wonder if this is because my cushion doesn't work for me as well as it used to. I have had this particular cushion for more than 11 years with no problems, but I am really wondering. I do have a new Roho Quattro cushion, but it doesn't fit this particular chair and it sits quite a bit higher than I am now. It is important that I maintain my current height and not go with anything taller. It's difficult enough for me to get in and out of my Van, I don't want to add to the problem. Quadius -- See what's free at AOL.com http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503.
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I am probably going to get an appointment for pressure mapping. At the very minimum I will be trying to get a backup cushion for this chair. The other question I have is too large for the particular chair I am in right now, but it may fit my next chair. Quadius PS thanks for the feedback. On 5/25/07, David K. Kelmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Q, You have to take into your calculations how much your body has changed over the past 11 years. It may not seem much, but as you age, the changes will add-up. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka Dave C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post Texas, USA *Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: I have been noticing that I am shifting a little each day in my chair and I wonder if this is because my cushion doesn't work for me as well as it used to. I have had this particular cushion for more than 11 years with no problems, but I am really wondering. I do have a new Roho Quattro cushion, but it doesn't fit this particular chair and it sits quite a bit higher than I am now. It is important that I maintain my current height and not go with anything taller. It's difficult enough for me to get in and out of my Van, I don't want to add to the problem. Quadius On 5/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That Is a Really Good Question , I think we have to have a change in our condition? Is there a number of years? I don't know either. Dana -- See what's free at AOL.comhttp://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503.
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In a message dated 5/23/2007 2:27:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: does anybody know how often we can get a new cushion thru the medicaid waiver program? I know chairs are 5 yrs. diane I personally don't know. What I do know that new physical changes with your body require a new cushion and that is covered. Still it requires a doctor's signoff and approval. Best Wishes W ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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That Is a Really Good Question , I think we have to have a change in our condition? Is there a number of years? I don't know either. Dana ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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I have been noticing that I am shifting a little each day in my chair and I wonder if this is because my cushion doesn't work for me as well as it used to. I have had this particular cushion for more than 11 years with no problems, but I am really wondering. I do have a new Roho Quattro cushion, but it doesn't fit this particular chair and it sits quite a bit higher than I am now. It is important that I maintain my current height and not go with anything taller. It's difficult enough for me to get in and out of my Van, I don't want to add to the problem. Quadius On 5/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That Is a Really Good Question , I think we have to have a change in our condition? Is there a number of years? I don't know either. Dana -- See what's free at AOL.com http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503.
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I was told that a cushion such as a roho quatro could be replaced if it was not repairable. (it can be patched similar to an inner tube on a tire) john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, 23 May 2007 2:43 pm Subject: [QUAD-L] cushions does anybody know how often we can get a new cushion thru the medicaid waiver program? I know chairs are 5 yrs. diane See what's free at AOL.com. AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
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Quadius, are you getting increased pressure marks from sitting. If you are, you should really address the issue as you do not want to get pressure sores. What kind of cushion have you been using for 11 years? Have you had someone adjust the Quattro that knows how to do it? let me know how you're doing... good luck, Dan T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:It may not be the cushion, but rather changes taking place in/with your body. Have you ever had a pressure mapping session to determine those changes? Best Wishes W In a message dated 5/23/2007 6:22:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been noticing that I am shifting a little each day in my chair and I wonder if this is because my cushion doesn't work for me as well as it used to. I have had this particular cushion for more than 11 years with no problems, but I am really wondering. I do have a new Roho Quattro cushion, but it doesn't fit this particular chair and it sits quite a bit higher than I am now. It is important that I maintain my current height and not go with anything taller. It's difficult enough for me to get in and out of my Van, I don't want to add to the problem. Quadius - See what's free at AOL.com.
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Yes, a Roho cushion can be patched but the life expectancy of the cushion is five years and you have to really keep an eye on its ability to hold pressure. A quad's ability to sit is extremely valuable. I wouldn't push the envelope. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I was told that a cushion such as a roho quatro could be replaced if it was not repairable. (it can be patched similar to an inner tube on a tire) john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, 23 May 2007 2:43 pm Subject: [QUAD-L] cushions does anybody know how often we can get a new cushion thru the medicaid waiver program? I know chairs are 5 yrs. diane - See what's free at AOL.com. - AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
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BEST in most disabled products is many times just a matter of opinions---such as some hate one type of powerchair while others love the same brand. And like Chet said everyone's body and needs are different. Myself I had roho 9 years now with no problems so far, but I have never tried any others either.about my only complaint with the roho is that if you have them too full of air--It is very hard to maintain balance, so be sure not to over inflate them. Dan c-6 9 yrs. postPaul Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List People! I am getting a new chair.Permobil 500.But..what is the best cushion??? I am a c5/6..with no history of skin issues. I'm 6ft 180 lbs. Have a Roho now..any other ideas. Regardless of cost, I want the best cushion.Thanks!!Paul San Diego
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Everyones ass is different. If you havent had any pressure marks from your current cushion dont change it. Be advised your sitting position will change a tad (even a 1/8 of inch) in your new chair so be extra vigilant the first few weeks sitting in your new chair. If in doubt get your ass pressure mapped by an OT. Its no big deal. From: Paul Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:59 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Cushions Hello List People! I am getting a new chair.Permobil 500. But..what is the best cushion??? I am a c5/6..with no history of skin issues. I'm 6ft 180 lbs. Have a Roho now..any other ideas. Regardless of cost, I want the best cushion. Thanks!! Paul San Diego
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Hi Paul,This company in CA makes custom seating. They do great work. http://www.freedomdesigns.com/seats.htmlWith Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USA Paul Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List People!I am getting a new chair.Permobil 500.But..what is the best cushion??? I am a c5/6..with no history of skin issues. I'm 6ft 180 lbs. Have a Roho now..any other ideas. Regardless of cost, I want the best cushion.Thanks!!Paul San Diego
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It looks interesting wheelchair cushions and seating, I want to read when I get a chance. Thank you.Dana
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Sometimes the best can be worst and the worst can be the best. But you'll never quite know for sure without a positioning assessment. Its worth the effort, especially with a Permobil W In a message dated 11/13/2006 6:00:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello List People! I am getting a new chair.Permobil 500. But..what is the best cushion??? I am a c5/6..with no history of skin issues. I'm 6ft 180 lbs. Have a Roho now..any other ideas. Regardless of cost, I want the best cushion. Thanks!! Paul San Diego
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Hello Paul, I enjoy my Deep Contour Jay Cushion which has done me very good service without getting to many breakdowns. You know if you sit to long at anytime you are prone to getting a pressure sore. I have had my "Deep Contour" Jay Cushion for 6 years now without getting a breakdown taking weight shifts 2 to 2 1/2 hours apart while sitting of course. Each Person is different so you go with what suits you the BestBest Regards, Chet (a.k.a.Cquad7)Paul Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List People!I am getting a new chair.Permobil 500.But..what is the best cushion??? I am a c5/6..with no history of skin issues. I'm 6ft 180 lbs. Have a Roho now..any other ideas. Regardless of cost, I want the best cushion.Thanks!!Paul San Diego Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.