[qubes-users] Is hibernation supposed to work in HVM mode?

2020-01-19 Thread Guerlan
In PV, I tried installing hibernate in debian and it complains saying 
kernel does not support.

In HVM, I simply put my Kali linux to hibernate. When I started the VM 
again, it got stuck on "Resuming from hibernation"

Was hibernation supposed to work?

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[qubes-users] No internet in Kali Linux (HVM)

2020-01-19 Thread Guerlan
I installed Kali Linux. It's in HVM mode. I have no internet. I tried to 
edit the network options, and choose eth0 as the adapter. 
ping google.com gives
temporary failure in name resolution

I tried adding 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 in the network options, but the error 
persists

Windows 10, also in HVM mode, has internet normally. 

Also, I tried running in PV mode, choosing the most recent kernel. It 
simply halts rigth after the boot. Why?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: LibreOffice presentation mode with QubesOS

2020-01-19 Thread unman
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 12:00:05PM -0800, fabio.germ...@gmail.com wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 13. November 2019 09:30:08 UTC+1 schrieb Lorenzo Lamas:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 7:42:26 PM UTC+1, Germann Fabio wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi qubes-users,
> >>
> >> Recently I tried to present a presentation using LibreOffice on qubes. 
> >> I'm not able to get into the presentation mode where I got the fullscreen 
> >> presentation on the HDMI display and the presentation mode screen (current 
> >> slide, next slide and comments) on the internal display.
> >>
> >> I assume this is because in the AppVM there is only one screen. Is there 
> >> any way around this?
> >> Has anyone been able to get this working?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Fabio
> >>
> >
> > AppVM's by default don't have fullscreen access, have you enabled it first?
> > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/full-screen-mode/
> >
> 
> Hi Lorenzo,
> 
> I did not have this enabled. But also after turning it on (and rebooting) 
> the presentation mode does not work correctly.
> 

With KDE it's straightforward. 
In the slide show settings set the presentation display.
Start the slide show, and set the slide show window as full screen from
the title bar.
Now you have the control panel including notes on one screen and full screen
slides on the other.

You *may* be able to do this in Xfce.

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Re: [qubes-users] Why Windows 10 is slow? Is it because of HVM?

2020-01-19 Thread Guerlan


On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 8:36:26 AM UTC-3, Claudia wrote:
>
> January 19, 2020 6:34 AM, "Guerlan" > 
> wrote:
>
> > Windows 10 VM is considerably slower than my traditional PV VMs, the 
> ones that come with Qubes. In
> > fact no one would notice that my PV VMs are virtualized, they look just 
> like regular bare metal
> > machines.
> > However, Windows 10 has lags. Anyone would notice and think either the 
> computer is slow or the
> > system is badly virtualized. For example, when I press Win button, it 
> takes a while for the menu to
> > appear. I can only think that it's because Windows 10 is running in HVM 
> mode. Should I try running
> > it in PV mode? If so, how?
>
> You could try it in PV mode. I'm not sure if it's supported by Qubes but 
> you could probably make it work. 
> https://xenproject.org/windows-pv-drivers/
>
> Also consider that Windows might simply be slower than Linux, especially 
> in resource-constrained environments like a VM. Are your Linux HVMs also 
> slow/laggy? 
>

I have kali linux in HVM mode and it's as fast as the PV VMs. The probem 
seems to be related to windows. I'm gonna try to make Windows 10 PV anyway 

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Should I chose a TemplateVM or a StandaloneVM for a Windows 10 VM ?

2020-01-19 Thread unman
On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 04:29:26AM -0800, trueriver wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thursday, 16 January 2020 17:55:22 UTC, M wrote:
> >
> > I read about a TemplateVM and a StandaloneVM in the ???Glossary of Qubes 
> > Terminology???. But I???m still not sure about which kind of VM to choose 
> > for a 
> > Windows 10 VM. 
> >
> > Can someone please tell me more clearly when to chose these kinds of 
> > VM???s, 
> > and which you would recommend for a Windows 10 VM and why ?
> 
> 
> Hi M,
> 
> The quick rule of thumb is that if you are installing from an iso file, you 
> need a standalone VM. This obvs includes any version of Windows. I will 
> explain why.
> 
> A template VM in Qubes is the base part of a Linux install, missing the 
> parts that are specific to a particular user. So when you run "vault" and 
> "untrusted" both using the same template, the two VMs have the same rnge of 
> software available, but different histories: sharing the base install save 
> space, havng different history means that if your untrusted machine has 
> been hacked, vault is still safe. 
> 
> A second thing to know about the Qubes templates is that they include the 
> Qubes magic software that enables you to send files from one VM to another, 
> copy and paste across different machines, and so on (most of these programs 
> have names beginning with "q" ("qrexec", and suchlike). 
> 
> Official templates exist for Fedora and Debian. The Wizardly enthusiasts in 
> the Qubes user community have also created templates for other Linux 
> distributions. If like me you are less endowed with Linux-hacking skills, 
> you either start from someone else's template, or create a standalone 
> machine using the .iso install "disk" for that operating system. 
> 
> In the case of Windows that is an easy decision: the internals of Windows 
> are so different to Linux that I am told there is no chance of even a 
> mighty wizard creating a Windows template. So its install from .iso onto a 
> standalone VM. I think you will also find you need to choose HVM as the VM 
> type.
> 
> Finally, Microsoft may want a further fee from you to make that install 
> official. Running Windows in a VM counts as a separate machine to the one 
> that acts as host :(  Be prepared to pay, or expect to run your system as 
> an unregistered one which may have an impact on Windows Update :( 

It's simple to create a Windows template *without* any wizardry. Just
proceed as normal creating a template and install windows from iso.
Any qubes you run using that template will be disposable - that is, any
changes you make will be lost on shutdown.
If you install the QWT in to the windows qube and move user directories
on to 2nd disk, then you have a fully featured windows qube running off
the template with user home surviving between reboots.

As to the "further fee" M$ licensing is notoriously difficult to get to
grips with, but if you have a license for the Windows version you are running,
that will do even if the install is in a VM - this has been the case for
some time.
You can register the template, and qubes based on it will (in my
experience) retain license. The only questionable activity would be
running multiple windows qubes at the same time - quite probably system
resource would prohibit that in any case.

unman

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: qvm-create-windows-qube 2.0

2020-01-19 Thread unman
On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 08:53:10AM -0800, trueriver wrote:
> In version 4 of Qubes, the Debian templates need a little extra software to 
> run as templates for the sys-XXX Qubes. Best to is to pieced as if for the 
> minimal Debian template, and apt-install what's needed for the three sys-XXX 
> Qubes. Some of those packages are already installed but apt will just tell 
> you so, and install the missing ones
> 
The Debian template should be usable for sys-** qubes - it is for me,
and I dont think I installed anything on the default template. (although
I do build my own.)
Please detail which software you think is missing.

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[qubes-users] Screen recording in Qubes VMs

2020-01-19 Thread Claudia
I was wondering if anyone has had any luck with recording screen captures in 
Qubes. I tried the following FFmpeg line, which worked fine except it's only 
capturing a 640x480 corner of the screen. I'm not sure if this is Qubes-related 
or if I'm just not using it correctly. Note, I'm running this inside a Fedora 
VM, meaning other VMs' windows seem to be invisible (which is what I want in 
this case). Also, window borders and anything else drawn by dom0 seems to be 
invisible, but window content appears to be captured fine apart from the 
capture area being too small.

$ ffmpeg -f x11grab -i :0.0 -vcodec libvpx -s 1920x1080 /tmp/ffout.webm
[...]
Input #0, x11grab, from ':0.0':
  Duration: N/A, start: 1579388031.870036, bitrate: N/A
Stream #0:0: Video: rawvideo (BGR[0] / 0x524742), bgr0, 640x480, 29.97 fps, 
29.97 tbr, 1000k tbn, 1000k tbc
File '/tmp/ffout.webm' already exists. Overwrite ? [y/N] y
Stream mapping:
  Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (rawvideo (native) -> vp8 (libvpx))
Press [q] to stop, [?] for help
[libvpx @ 0x56c7902a5900] v1.8.1
Output #0, webm, to '/tmp/ffout.webm':
  Metadata:
encoder : Lavf58.20.100
Stream #0:0: Video: vp8 (libvpx), yuv420p, 1920x1080, q=-1--1, 200 kb/s, 
29.97 fps, 1k tbn, 29.97 tbc
Metadata:
  encoder : Lavc58.35.100 libvpx
Side data:
  cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 0/0/0 buffer size: 0 vbv_delay: -1
[...]

Even though I'm setting the output resolution to my screen size, it seems to be 
detecting the input resolution at 640x480, and I haven't found any way to 
specify input resolution. I've tried with several different codec/container 
combinations but it still only captures the upper left corner.

I was wondering if it could have something to do with Qubes because of the way 
the desktop is shared by different VMs.

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS 4.0.3-rc1 has been released!

2020-01-19 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2020-01-16 4:46 PM, David Hobach wrote:
> On 1/15/20 12:59 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
>> Shortly after the announcement of 4.0.2 [1], a bug [2] was discovered in
>> the dom0 kernel included in that release. Since the bug would have
>> presented installation problems for the majority of users. That bug has
>> now been fixed, along with a few installer fixes, resulting in
>> 4.0.3-rc1.
> 
>>
>> What should I do?
>> =
>>
>> If you installed Qubes 4.0, 4.0.1, or 4.0.2 and have fully updated [4],
>> then your system is already equivalent to a Qubes 4.0.3 installation. No
>> further action is required.
> 
> I didn't get any dom0 or template update.
> Kernel is 4.19.84-1, qubes-core-dom0 is at 4.0.48-1,
> qubes-core-dom0-linux at 4.0.21.1.
> 
> I also didn't get the updates for QSB #56 on the stable repo yet.
> 
> Can someone confirm that?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 

I appear to have the same versions for all those components.
I believe it is because we only have the "current" (and possibly
"security-testing") repo enabled. If you were to enable
"current-testing", I suspect you would see newer updates.

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Re: [qubes-users] “Help! Qubes problems" : McAfee ENS not not installing on debian-10 Template vm

2020-01-19 Thread Chris Laprise

On 1/19/20 3:10 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:

Arshad Ali:

Hi guys,

I am new in Qubes OS, I need help regarding installation of McAfee on
debian VM,

I have installed McAfee Agent on debian-10 Template vm, When I am trying to
push ENS package from McAfee server to debian-10 Template VM its getting
fail.

 From McAfee server I can only see sys-net connectivity with McAfee, where
as McAfee agent is installed on debian vm,
I am not sure where the problem is actually exist. Do I need to do any port
forwarding on sys net and sys firewall (If It is  how it can be, ).
As I didnot make any rules in Firewall which is by default allowing all and
internet is running on debian vm.


I think you're missing some of the basics of Qubes. Check out
https://blog.invisiblethings.org/2011/09/28/playing-with-qubes-networking-for-fun.html,
for example. Qubes' networking is designed to prevent things outside
your PC from connecting with things inside it. If you really wanted to,
see https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/firewall/. Keep in mind though,
templates intentionally do not have a network connection, so what you're
trying to do wouldn't work even with port forwarding. You should also
consider in general if installing third party software raises or lowers
your security posture, as antivirus suites have historically had
multiple vulnerabilities and are designed to upload files for further
analysis based on criteria set by the third party.


I think the transfer model for third-party definition updates in 
template vms would be to utilize a dispvm to download an update pack 
(e.g. in .zip or .tar format) which can then be qvm-copied to the 
template vm and fed to the antivirus software. IOW, the antivirus vendor 
should have an offline update procedure you can follow, you just need to 
add qvm-copy to the process.


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: qvm-create-windows-qube 2.0

2020-01-19 Thread brendan . hoar
On Friday, January 17, 2020 at 11:01:05 PM UTC, Elliot Killick wrote:
>
> On 2020-01-15 01:36, shiftedreality wrote: 
>
> > You pointed me in the right direction. I was using Debian 10 as my 
> default 
> > Qubes template. 
> Debian 10 is supposed to be supported as a template. I didn't realize 
> the Debian 10 template qube didn't come with cURL. Bug fixed, thanks for 
> catching that. 
>

On my nth install of Qubes...and learning the hard way about passing 
informal scripts to others... :)

A reminder if using the standard lvm config : the cloning of VMs/templates 
only ends up using additional storage for the *divergence* of each from the 
other(s). 

So, I'd recommend, if scripting for others: keep a pristine un-updated copy 
of the target template(s) to test scripts against. Even better would be a 
pristine copy and an "up-to-date but not customized" copy. E.g.

debian-10 <- installed by qubes, developer *disables* automatic update 
reminders and does not update (frozen)
debian-10-up-to-date <- cloned by developer, not customized, only ever 
apply updates
debian-10-custom <- cloned by developer, apply customizations (e.g. 
apt-install stuff), apply updates. For day to day use with your VMs.

That way one can (without having to remove and recreate templates via dom0 
salt, dnf invocations, etc) test your scripts against baseline expectations 
of other users.

Brendan

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Re: [qubes-users] “Help! Qubes problems" : McAfee ENS not not installing on debian-10 Template vm

2020-01-19 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
Arshad Ali:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I am new in Qubes OS, I need help regarding installation of McAfee on 
> debian VM,
> 
> I have installed McAfee Agent on debian-10 Template vm, When I am trying to 
> push ENS package from McAfee server to debian-10 Template VM its getting 
> fail.
> 
> From McAfee server I can only see sys-net connectivity with McAfee, where 
> as McAfee agent is installed on debian vm,  
> I am not sure where the problem is actually exist. Do I need to do any port 
> forwarding on sys net and sys firewall (If It is  how it can be, ). 
> As I didnot make any rules in Firewall which is by default allowing all and 
> internet is running on debian vm. 
> 
I think you're missing some of the basics of Qubes. Check out
https://blog.invisiblethings.org/2011/09/28/playing-with-qubes-networking-for-fun.html,
for example. Qubes' networking is designed to prevent things outside
your PC from connecting with things inside it. If you really wanted to,
see https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/firewall/. Keep in mind though,
templates intentionally do not have a network connection, so what you're
trying to do wouldn't work even with port forwarding. You should also
consider in general if installing third party software raises or lowers
your security posture, as antivirus suites have historically had
multiple vulnerabilities and are designed to upload files for further
analysis based on criteria set by the third party.

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Re: [qubes-users] Cannot use bluetooth headset with Fedora-30 + Bluez

2020-01-19 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
Claudio Chinicz:
> Hi All,
> 
> I've installed Bluez and Pulse Audio on a Fedora-30 based VM. When I attach 
> my Bluetooth USB dongle to the VM I see the Bluetooth icon in the upper 
> right corner.
> 
> If I click on the icon it opens Bluetooth Manager and I can scan and find 
> my headset. Then I "trust" it and successfully pair it.
> 
> To my surprise, when I open the browser and play any sound it comes out of 
> the embedded speakers in my computer (Dell Latitude 5590 Core i5 8th gen).
> 
> When I open  Pulse Audio Control to configure the audio I see only "Qubes 
> vChan Output/Input" and not the Bluez device.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks
> 
Not an option for Qubes at the moment. Possibly 4.1. Keep an eye on
and/or contribute to https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1590.

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS Network installation - Possible to Mirror dom0 iso contents?

2020-01-19 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
ryank...@gmail.com:
> I was trying to put together a network installer for QubesOS for 
> netboot.xyz. 
> 
> You are already leveraging Dracut with the full network stack and livenet 
> hooks so booting something like this example below in IPXE loads the 
> installer interface: (if you rip isolinux/initrd.img isolinux/vmlinuz, 
> and LiveOS/squashfs.img out of a Live CD)
> 
> :CUSTOM
> imgfree
> set url http://192.168.10.13:8080/
> kernel ${url}vmlinuz root=live:${url}squashfs.img 
> repo=https://ftp.qubes-os.org/repo/yum/r4.0/current/dom0/fc25/ 
> ro rd.live.image rd.lvm=0 rd.luks=0 rd.md=0 rd.dm=0 initrd=initrd
> initrd ${url}initrd
> boot
> 
> The problem is that the hosted repo does not contain the base packages in 
> the ISO repo (bash among others). 
> 
> Would it be possible to mirror the ISO repo contents to 
> "/repo/yum/r4.0/current/dom0/fc25/" to support network based installs 
> without a local repo? 
> 
> Let me know if you need anymore information. 
> 
If the Qubes team can't support that, couldn't you set up your own
internal repo server?

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[qubes-users] Grayscale display settings

2020-01-19 Thread max . nichtsodringlich

Hey there,

what is the best way to switch my whole display to black and white / 
grayscale?


I found this thread: 
https://askubuntu.com/questions/443335/how-can-ubuntu-be-made-grayscale/443346#443346


But I'm unsure where to implement this in dom0.

Thanks!

Max

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[qubes-users] HCL - Tuxedo InfinityBook 14 v4

2020-01-19 Thread Tobias Rene Gilberg
Hello
Qubes OS runs very good on my system, although I had some problems with
the installation. I had to follow this guide:
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/uefi-troubleshooting/#installation-freezes-before-displaying-installer

After the installation i find it useful to follow this guide to make
Qubes OS boot directly.
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/uefi-troubleshooting/#boot-device-not-recognized-after-installing
Without this its necessary to select the UEFI file manual every time,
the BIOS will ask how to boot and offers a option boot from file.

AEM is not working, because the laptop uses a TPM2.

The LTE module makes some problems after with reconnecting after you
connected successfully. To solve this just restart sys-usb. Also I need
to apply this guide for sys-net to make the LTE modem work:
https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/Infos/Help-Support/Instructions/Setting-up-and-troubleshooting-UMTS/LTE-modules.tuxedo#

For using the webcam the USB 2.0 controller must be set to non strict reset.

Under my normal usage with Wireless disabled the battery has enough
power for 6 hours.

The Thunderbolt port works perfectly with USB-C devices, but I didn't
test connecting Thunderbolt devices jet.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: qvm-create-windows-qube 2.0

2020-01-19 Thread trueriver
In version 4 of Qubes, the Debian templates need a little extra software to run 
as templates for the sys-XXX Qubes. Best to is to pieced as if for the minimal 
Debian template, and apt-install what's needed for the three sys-XXX Qubes. 
Some of those packages are already installed but apt will just tell you so, and 
install the missing ones

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[qubes-users] Re: Should I chose a TemplateVM or a StandaloneVM for a Windows 10 VM ?

2020-01-19 Thread max via qubes-users
torsdag den 16. januar 2020 kl. 18.55.22 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
> I read about a TemplateVM and a StandaloneVM in the “Glossary of Qubes 
> Terminology”. But I’m still not sure about which kind of VM to choose for a 
> Windows 10 VM. 
>
> Can someone please tell me more clearly when to chose these kinds of VM’s, 
> and which you would recommend for a Windows 10 VM and why ? 


You might try this: 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-users/AdQcjg7XOFo/0bUFmyi7CgAJ

Sincerely
Max

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[qubes-users] Re: Should I chose a TemplateVM or a StandaloneVM for a Windows 10 VM ?

2020-01-19 Thread M
Thank you very much for your detailed answer.

May I ask: Which difference does it make to Microsoft update if I use a payed 
or unpayed version of Windows 10 ? - I didn’t know there were a difference 
although it seems fair.

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Re: [qubes-users] How to use QEMU with Qubes?

2020-01-19 Thread trueriver




On Wednesday, 8 January 2020 11:46:52 UTC, Claudia wrote:

> ...Xen uses QEMU just to emulate virtual hardware devices for HVMs, not 
> for the actual virtualization. "Normal" Qemu is actually Qemu/KVM, which is 
> not supported on Xen as far as I know. The next best thing is to create an 
> HVM, see 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/#installing-an-os-in-an-hvm


Here is a bit more background -- not strictly necessary to your immediate Q

For Linux users, "normal" QEMU is indeed Qemu/KVM.

However, some QEMU fans would probably argue that the definitive QEMU is 
the version that emulates everything. Obviously that leads to a slow 
running system, but will certainly run in an HVM. QEMU/KVM leverages the 
Linux kernel to run as much of the code as possible directly (ie on bare 
metal or in an HVM). 

There is also a Windows variant (iirr called KQEMU) which runs on Windows 
(but only after you install the KQEMU drivers). 

 

> qemu-img-xen is used for formatting image files or block devices for VMs. 
> qemu-nbd-xen is for network block devices, though I'm not sure if/how 
> they're used in Qubes. 
>

Most, or maybe all, the programs whise name begins qemu-... are utilities 
borrowed from the QEMU project, rather than actually part of the QEMU 
emulator itself. Why write a utility when the QEMU team already did what 
you want? 

In fact, both KVM and XEN use QEMU code internally, but not in a way that 
you can easily leverage for what you are trying to do. So too does 
VirtualBox, which means Oracle cannot make it closed source without 
re-inventing a lot of QEMU wheels

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes booting in machine with Windows and Linux

2020-01-19 Thread trueriver
Em qui, 16 de jan de 2020 às 06:27, > 
escreveu:

> Rafael and trueriver, you mean boot into BIOS each time to choose the OS? 
>> That's the way I have it now. I hit f1 upon turning the computer on to go 
>> into BIOS, and then I have the choice between Qubes or Debian (which is 
>> done through Grub, which also gives me the option to choose Windows). Or if 
>> I don't boot into BIOS with f1, it goes directly to Grub. Is that what you 
>> guys mean?
>>
>>
Exactly (but in my case it is esc, not F1)

R~~

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[qubes-users] Re: LibreOffice presentation mode with QubesOS

2020-01-19 Thread trueriver


On Monday, 4 November 2019 18:42:26 UTC, Germann Fabio wrote:
>
> Hi qubes-users,
>
> Recently I tried to present a presentation using LibreOffice on qubes. I'm 
> not able to get into the presentation mode where I got the fullscreen 
> presentation on the HDMI display and the presentation mode screen (current 
> slide, next slide and comments) on the internal display.
>
> I assume this is because in the AppVM there is only one screen. Is there 
> any way around this?
> Has anyone been able to get this working?
>
> Cheers,
> Fabio
>

Hi,

I have no experience with this use case, so this reply is purely 
theoretical.

You will need to do something in the AppVM and something else in Dom0. This 
is because the functionality that you are trying to use is spread across 
those two VMs in the Qubes model.

In Dom0, you will at least need to tell the Display manager that there will 
be more than one display. To do this, use the standard XFCE display 
settings icon, which you can reach through the menu system. At the very 
least, you need a tick in the checkbox for "configure new displays when 
connected". Without this, Dom0 wil not acknowledge that there is more than 
one display so cannot show different things on the respective displays.

Once you have enabled the second display in Dom0, go into your AppVM and do 
what you normally do. I can't advise beyond that, except that if 
LibreOffice gives you two windows you can maybe drag each one to where you 
want it... 

Finally, the other setting that is also called "presentation mode" coerns 
the power settings, in order to stop the screen banking, or going into 
screen saver, during the presentation. You may have a checkbox called 
"presentation mode" in the battery status widget in the system tray -- if 
not you will have to go into the Power Mannager in settings and select 
"never" in the relevant places.

Not sure if that will help...
Good Luck

River~~


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[qubes-users] Re: Should I chose a TemplateVM or a StandaloneVM for a Windows 10 VM ?

2020-01-19 Thread trueriver


On Thursday, 16 January 2020 17:55:22 UTC, M wrote:
>
> I read about a TemplateVM and a StandaloneVM in the “Glossary of Qubes 
> Terminology”. But I’m still not sure about which kind of VM to choose for a 
> Windows 10 VM. 
>
> Can someone please tell me more clearly when to chose these kinds of VM’s, 
> and which you would recommend for a Windows 10 VM and why ?


Hi M,

The quick rule of thumb is that if you are installing from an iso file, you 
need a standalone VM. This obvs includes any version of Windows. I will 
explain why.

A template VM in Qubes is the base part of a Linux install, missing the 
parts that are specific to a particular user. So when you run "vault" and 
"untrusted" both using the same template, the two VMs have the same rnge of 
software available, but different histories: sharing the base install save 
space, havng different history means that if your untrusted machine has 
been hacked, vault is still safe. 

A second thing to know about the Qubes templates is that they include the 
Qubes magic software that enables you to send files from one VM to another, 
copy and paste across different machines, and so on (most of these programs 
have names beginning with "q" ("qrexec", and suchlike). 

Official templates exist for Fedora and Debian. The Wizardly enthusiasts in 
the Qubes user community have also created templates for other Linux 
distributions. If like me you are less endowed with Linux-hacking skills, 
you either start from someone else's template, or create a standalone 
machine using the .iso install "disk" for that operating system. 

In the case of Windows that is an easy decision: the internals of Windows 
are so different to Linux that I am told there is no chance of even a 
mighty wizard creating a Windows template. So its install from .iso onto a 
standalone VM. I think you will also find you need to choose HVM as the VM 
type.

Finally, Microsoft may want a further fee from you to make that install 
official. Running Windows in a VM counts as a separate machine to the one 
that acts as host :(  Be prepared to pay, or expect to run your system as 
an unregistered one which may have an impact on Windows Update :( 

Hope that helps
R~~

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Re: [qubes-users] Why Windows 10 is slow? Is it because of HVM?

2020-01-19 Thread Claudia
January 19, 2020 6:34 AM, "Guerlan"  wrote:

> Windows 10 VM is considerably slower than my traditional PV VMs, the ones 
> that come with Qubes. In
> fact no one would notice that my PV VMs are virtualized, they look just like 
> regular bare metal
> machines.
> However, Windows 10 has lags. Anyone would notice and think either the 
> computer is slow or the
> system is badly virtualized. For example, when I press Win button, it takes a 
> while for the menu to
> appear. I can only think that it's because Windows 10 is running in HVM mode. 
> Should I try running
> it in PV mode? If so, how?

You could try it in PV mode. I'm not sure if it's supported by Qubes but you 
could probably make it work. https://xenproject.org/windows-pv-drivers/

Also consider that Windows might simply be slower than Linux, especially in 
resource-constrained environments like a VM. Are your Linux HVMs also 
slow/laggy?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Why Windows 10 is slow? Is it because of HVM?

2020-01-19 Thread Claudia
January 19, 2020 6:58 AM, "Claudio Chinicz"  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> As far as I understand, HVMs should be faster than PV. With the latter, the 
> OS makes hyper calls to
> the hyper-visor while HVMs simply see virtualized hardware through the hyper 
> visor.

I always thought the opposite was true. PVs should be faster because they don't 
have to go through a hardware emulator, they can just communicate with the 
hypervisor using an efficient protocol. I think that was the only reason for 
creating PVs in the first place (other than historical reasons before VT-x 
maybe). Otherwise they would have made HVM the only mode, much like KVM does.

Btw, Qubes 4.0 uses PVH as the default mode, except for PCI passthru VMs. The 
reason is that the PV, while efficient, has become really insecure and is 
becoming deprecated. PVH runs the VM under VT-x like an HVM, but also has 
special guest-side PV drivers to make I/O faster by bypassing the emulated 
hardware. For example, PV(H) guests use the blkback driver (e.g. xvda) while 
HVM guests use a virtual SATA controller (e.g. sda) which is emulated by Qemu 
in userspace. Similarly, PV(H) uses netfront (e.g. "vif0" network interface) 
while HVMs use an emulated ethernet device (e.g. "eth0"). For PCI devices, 
PV(H) uses pcifront, however I think this is deprecated, which is why Qubes 4.0 
uses HVM for all passthru VMs. HVMs use the platform features (e.g. IOMMU) to 
passthru the actual PCI hardware.

HVM:
DomU driver -> Xen -> Qemu -> Dom0 hardware driver -> Dom0 hardware

PV:
DomU PV driver -> Xen -> Dom0 hardware

At least that's my understanding.

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Re: [qubes-users] Intel ax200, wifi 6, 2723 on X1 gen2 extreme

2020-01-19 Thread 'Ilpo Järvinen' via qubes-users
On Sun, 19 Jan 2020, man...@andaztech.com wrote:

> I downloaded and ran RebornOS from a live USB, the Intel AX200 gets 
> picked up be default and works (used it for two hours with no issues) 
> The only difference I could see wa the firmware file loaded was 
> iwlwifi-cc-a0-50.ucode instead of the iwlwifi-cc-a0-46.ucode 
> 
> Will try that firmware on a qubes VM and update.
> 
> Anyone tried that firmware file?

Yes, I've tried also with -50 firmware (with a number combinations of 
kernel versions; firmwares -46, -48, and -50; and also with and w/o dkms 
backport). My problems did not go away with it nor was there any notable 
change.

I've not tested is baremetal myself (and have no intention to). Perhaps 
the problems are related to having Xen in the equation (but that's just
a guess).

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Re: [qubes-users] Intel ax200, wifi 6, 2723 on X1 gen2 extreme

2020-01-19 Thread manzur
Hi
I downloaded and ran RebornOS from a live USB, the Intel AX200 gets picked up 
be default and works (used it for two hours with no issues)
The only difference I could see wa the firmware file loaded was 
iwlwifi-cc-a0-50.ucode instead of the iwlwifi-cc-a0-46.ucode

Will try that firmware on a qubes VM and update.

Anyone tried that firmware file?

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[qubes-users] Failing to load kernel modules/X startup failed, aborting installation [AMD Ryzen 3200G, ASROCK X570M Pro4, 32 GB ram]

2020-01-19 Thread M
I have tried to install Qubes OS 4.0.1 and 4.0.2 by using a DL-DVD both in UEFI 
and Legacy mode.

In UEFi the cursor ends up blinking on a black screen.

In Legacy mode I end up just before loading the graphical interface by getting 
an error message: Failing to load kernel modules/X startup failed -> Aborting 
installation.

For screenshots, see here: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4510

I have also tried the other possibilities to install Qubes that the two 
ISO-DVD’s offer. But that also ended with the same result.

Can anyone tell me how to get further... ?



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