Re: [qubes-users] Re: XFCE Application menu

2016-12-17 Thread raahelps
On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 7:14:27 AM UTC-5, Andrew David Wong wrote:
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> On 2016-12-16 04:00, cubit wrote:
> > 21. Oct 2016 16:14 by cu...@tutanota.com:
> >> I tried menulibre and it did not go so well, moving the "Qubes VM
> >> Manager" shortcut in the app menu from the middle of off the
> >> templates and  appvm's to the top along side "run program" and
> >> "terminal emulator"  had the very bad side effect of deleting all
> >> the shortcuts under "system tools".
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Has anyone played around and found a way to --safely-- organize
> >> the application menu?
> >> 
> > Looping back to this has anyone had any success in managing the
> > xfce menu expecially grouping the templates?
> > 
> 
> No, but a good alternative is to use Xfce4 "Launchers," which can be
> added to any panel from the right-click menu.
> 
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oh I see you are saying the panel not the start menu.  Start menu is just less 
confusing.  There are 3rd party addons to manage it,  but I woudln't want to 
install one to dom0.

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[qubes-users] Re: XFCE Application menu

2016-12-16 Thread Reg Tiangha
On 12/16/2016 05:14 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
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> On 2016-12-16 04:00, cubit wrote:
>> 21. Oct 2016 16:14 by cu...@tutanota.com:
>>> I tried menulibre and it did not go so well, moving the "Qubes VM
>>> Manager" shortcut in the app menu from the middle of off the
>>> templates and  appvm's to the top along side "run program" and
>>> "terminal emulator"  had the very bad side effect of deleting all
>>> the shortcuts under "system tools".
>>>
>>>
>>> Has anyone played around and found a way to --safely-- organize
>>> the application menu?
>>>
>> Looping back to this has anyone had any success in managing the
>> xfce menu expecially grouping the templates?
>>
> No, but a good alternative is to use Xfce4 "Launchers," which can be
> added to any panel from the right-click menu.
>
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I use launchers as well, and you can also set up new panels (like say at
the bottom of the screen or on a second screen that auto-hides) if
there's not enough space.

Another option is to install Whisker Menu (
https://gottcode.org/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/ ) which gives you an
application menu that you can search (which can come in handy). I have
that one installed to the far right of my panel so my set up is to have
a bunch of most-used application launchers sorted by color to the left
of the panel next to the standard application menu, and then the Whisker
Menu launcher to the far right next to the logout button for the times
when I need to launch something whose name I know but don't want to dig
through the main application menu to find it (there are many Nautilus
launchers, lol). Best of both worlds and keeps my panel clean.

To install in dom0:

sudo qubes-dom0-update xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin

It's just the one plugin, no other dependencies.


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: XFCE Application menu

2016-12-16 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2016-12-16 04:00, cubit wrote:
> 21. Oct 2016 16:14 by cu...@tutanota.com:
>> I tried menulibre and it did not go so well, moving the "Qubes VM
>> Manager" shortcut in the app menu from the middle of off the
>> templates and  appvm's to the top along side "run program" and
>> "terminal emulator"  had the very bad side effect of deleting all
>> the shortcuts under "system tools".
>> 
>> 
>> Has anyone played around and found a way to --safely-- organize
>> the application menu?
>> 
> Looping back to this has anyone had any success in managing the
> xfce menu expecially grouping the templates?
> 

No, but a good alternative is to use Xfce4 "Launchers," which can be
added to any panel from the right-click menu.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: XFCE Application menu

2016-12-16 Thread cubit
21. Oct 2016 16:14 by cu...@tutanota.com:

>
> I tried menulibre and it did not go so well, moving the "Qubes VM Manager" 
> shortcut in the app menu from the middle of off the templates and  appvm's to 
> the top along side "run program" and "terminal emulator"  had the very bad 
> side effect of deleting all the shortcuts under "system tools".
>
>
>
>
> Has anyone played around and found a way to --safely-- organize the 
> application menu?
>







Looping back to this has anyone had any success in managing the xfce menu 
expecially grouping the templates?









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Re: [qubes-users] Re: XFCE Application menu

2016-10-21 Thread cubit
4. Oct 2016 11:47 by cu...@tutanota.com:

>
> https://smdavis.us/projects/menulibre>   looks promising 
>
>
>
>
>
> But I am think that I just checking with anyone who has experience with XFCE 
> + Qubes to make sure there is not some sort of compatibility issue by using 
> such a app and how Qubes interacts with the application menu.
>




I tried menulibre and it did not go so well, moving the "Qubes VM Manager" 
shortcut in the app menu from the middle of off the templates and  appvm's to 
the top along side "run program" and "terminal emulator"  had the very bad side 
effect of deleting all the shortcuts under "system tools".




Has anyone played around and found a way to --safely-- organize the application 
menu?






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Re: [qubes-users] Re: XFCE Application menu

2016-10-04 Thread cubit
3. Oct 2016 13:24 by cubemam...@gmail.com:


> Yeah I find that really annoying. I like my launcher to be neatly organized 
> and now its a mess, I'm not willing to go in an fix it via  text file in vi. 
>
> Best third party way to make this editable?




https://smdavis.us/projects/menulibre  looks promising 





But I am think that I just checking with anyone who has experience with XFCE + 
Qubes to make sure there is not some sort of compatibility issue by using such 
a app and how Qubes interacts with the application menu.






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[qubes-users] Re: XFCE Application menu

2016-10-03 Thread Cube
Yeah I find that really annoying. I like my launcher to be neatly organized and 
now its a mess, I'm not willing to go in an fix it via  text file in vi. 

Best third party way to make this editable?

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[qubes-users] Re: XFCE Application menu

2016-10-02 Thread raahelps
On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 10:57:36 PM UTC-4, raah...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 5:04:22 PM UTC-4, cubit wrote:
> > hello everyone.  just upgraded to 3.2 and liking it.   one question I 
> > have..
> > 
> > Is there any reason (other than trust) not to install MenuLibre 
> > (https://smdavis.us/projects/menulibre) to dom0 so I can organize the 
> > application menu to do things like group the templates?   Or perhaps I am 
> > missing some already installed way with out having to manually edit config 
> > files?
> 
> I find xfce a little confusing too.  In KDE I changed disposable vm browser 
> entry, and also added disposable app menu entries under diff vms, so they'd 
> retain  certain firewall settings.  But I can't figure out how to do this in 
> kde lol without some 3rd party tool as well...  I mean this is confusing > 
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/76042/how-can-i-add-items-to-xfce-root-menu

ah alt f3 is letting me edit the default disposable vm entry now,  but it still 
doesn't let you create a new one.  in kde to create a new disposable vm entry 
under a certain vm domain was a simple right click.

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[qubes-users] Re: XFCE Application menu

2016-10-02 Thread raahelps
On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 5:04:22 PM UTC-4, cubit wrote:
> hello everyone.  just upgraded to 3.2 and liking it.   one question I 
> have..
> 
> Is there any reason (other than trust) not to install MenuLibre 
> (https://smdavis.us/projects/menulibre) to dom0 so I can organize the 
> application menu to do things like group the templates?   Or perhaps I am 
> missing some already installed way with out having to manually edit config 
> files?

I find xfce a little confusing too.  In KDE I changed disposable vm browser 
entry, and also added disposable app menu entries under diff vms, so they'd 
retain  certain firewall settings.  But I can't figure out how to do this in 
kde lol without some 3rd party tool as well...  I mean this is confusing > 
https://askubuntu.com/questions/76042/how-can-i-add-items-to-xfce-root-menu

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