[qubes-users] Locale settings after update of template VM

2019-07-03 Thread saphicality
Hello,

During installation of Qubes 4.0.1 I selected en_GB, but after update of 
template VM's, which I made after installation all locales were changed to 
en_US.

How I could revert the settings of locale for the template, that all VM will 
inherit it?

Now Thunderbird is unusable for, because I can't change locale by 
init.d/S00Locale.sh (doesn't work) and even "Application locale" in preferences 
is ignored.

Why default locale for Qubes is en_US, when Qubes is made in Europe? Maybe it 
will be better to ship it with en_GB? 

I don't know where is larger user base, but if in Europe, then it should make 
users like much easier.

Thanks
Veronica

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Disabling qubes-netvm

2019-07-03 Thread Matthias Brumm
Am Mittwoch, 3. Juli 2019 00:31:16 UTC+2 schrieb awokd:
> Matthias Brumm:
> > Am Dienstag, 2. Juli 2019 16:14:52 UTC+2 schrieb awokd:
> >> Look for the section of XML that contains  >> name="name">sys-net.
> >>
> > Thank you for your help. I disabled all three autostart vms to hopefully 
> > get the system to start, but no luck. I think I surrender for now to get 
> > this installed on a Macbook.
> 
> Didn't think of it earlier, but you could also remove the devices
> assigned to sys-net in that same section of XML. Look for lines like
>   and delete them. If
> that still doesn't let you boot Qubes, it's some other issue besides
> sys-net.
> 
That was a very good idea. After editing the xml file I got to the stage 2 and 
I think Qubes had to do some last steps. Then Qubes OS booted. When I have the 
time, I can now look into enabling network etc.

When I am done, I try to make a short section for the macbook troubleshooting 
information.

Matthias

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Quick question please, need help!

2019-07-03 Thread Sphere
I'm not particularly knowledgeable about the verification process being done by 
dnf on the signature of packages so the question still lies on me:
Is downloading packages from plaintext http susceptible to MITM?

Even if that is not the case, I believe we can't be for sure that there's no 
exploitable vulnerability on dnf involving packages poisoned either from the 
source itself or in transit through plaintext http.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes integration for xmonad

2019-07-03 Thread nestorock75
El lunes, 1 de julio de 2019, 16:21:42 (UTC+2), nesto...@gmail.com  escribió:
> El lunes, 1 de julio de 2019, 16:08:19 (UTC+2), nesto...@gmail.com  escribió:
> > El domingo, 1 de noviembre de 2015, 14:47:00 (UTC+1), Alex  escribió:
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > Hash: SHA256
> > > 
> > > On 11/01/2015 01:59 PM, Daniel Schoepe wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 21:31 +0100, Alex wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Here are some screenshots. It basically looks the same as a normal 
> > > > xmonad installation with the addition of the colored window
> > > > decorations. I don't use the spiral layout, but it should be
> > > > sufficient get an idea of how it will look anyway. [...]
> > > Thank you very much, I like your results a lot - I will be trying
> > > xmonad as soon as I have a little spare time...
> > > 
> > > - -- 
> > > Alex
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
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> > > 
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> > 
> > Hi Daniel, I am trying to build your xmonad version but I have problems 
> > with some unbuildable library, but I don't know how I would look for that 
> > library.
> > 
> > Could you help me with this?
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Resolving dependencies...
> > Configuring xmonad-0.12...
> > Failed to install xmonad-0.12
> > Build log ( 
> > /home/user/.cabal/logs/ghc-8.2.2/xmonad-0.12-FUpDXVryp86B9yS3zn4k4c.log ):
> > cabal: Entering directory '.'
> > Configuring xmonad-0.12...
> > Error: Dependency on unbuildable library from xmonad
> > cabal: Leaving directory '.'
> > cabal: Error: some packages failed to install:
> > xmonad-0.12-FUpDXVryp86B9yS3zn4k4c failed during the configure step. The
> > exception was:
> > ExitFailure 1
> 
> Ok, I have changed X11 library maximum version in xmonad.cabal and it's 
> worked.

I have been able to build qubes-xmonad, but now I have problems with 
qubes-xmonad-contrib

When I try to build it I get next error message:

1. WindowAttributes parameter: In your version you have only 7 parameter but 
that function need 9 parameter.
I only add the parameters, only 2 and It's continue builing.

2. Now I Have problem with Helpers.hs file (Layout/Groups), but I can to 
continue, I don't now what the problem is, sorry.

Could you help with this? thanks.

cabal: Entering directory '.'
Configuring xmonad-contrib-0.12...
Preprocessing library for xmonad-contrib-0.12..
Building library for xmonad-contrib-0.12..
[119 of 248] Compiling XMonad.Util.DebugWindow ( XMonad/Util/DebugWindow.hs, 
dist/build/XMonad/Util/DebugWindow.o )

XMonad/Util/DebugWindow.hs:44:42: warning: [-Wunused-matches]
Defined but not used: ‘color’
   |
44 | Just (WindowAttributes x y wid ht bw color m1 m o) -> do
   |  ^

XMonad/Util/DebugWindow.hs:44:48: warning: [-Wunused-matches]
Defined but not used: ‘m1’
   |
44 | Just (WindowAttributes x y wid ht bw color m1 m o) -> do
   |^^
[123 of 248] Compiling XMonad.Layout.Groups.Helpers ( 
XMonad/Layout/Groups/Helpers.hs, dist/build/XMonad/Layout/Groups/Helpers.o )

XMonad/Layout/Groups/Helpers.hs:181:8: error:
 Couldn't match type ‘G.WithID l0 Window
   -> XMonad.Util.Stack.Zipper (G.Group l0 Window)
   -> XMonad.Util.Stack.Zipper (G.Group l0 Window)’
 with ‘forall (l :: * -> *).
   G.WithID l Window
   -> XMonad.Util.Stack.Zipper (G.Group l Window)
   -> XMonad.Util.Stack.Zipper (G.Group l Window)’
  Expected type: G.ModifySpec
Actual type: G.WithID l0 Window
 -> XMonad.Util.Stack.Zipper (G.Group l0 Window)
 -> XMonad.Util.Stack.Zipper (G.Group l0 Window)
 In the expression: sendMessage . G.Modify
  In an equation for ‘wrap’: wrap = sendMessage . G.Modify
|
181 | wrap = sendMessage . G.Modify
|^^
cabal: Leaving directory '.'


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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4.0+ Windows 10

2019-07-03 Thread Stefan Sperling
Hello Franziska,

I just found the post from Black Beard and your answer. Since I have the same 
problem, I have some questions and would be verry happy, if you could send me 
your How-to.


Am Mittwoch, 21. November 2018 00:03:23 UTC+1 schrieb 799:
>  
> I made the decisions that I can live with this risk, still I wanted to try as 
> reasonable secure as possible which included:

We made the same decisions for our needs and did some tries to. We are now at a 
place, where we want to enable bitlocker and luks encryption for Win10 and 
Qubes. But moving Grub to a Qubes Partition didn't work yet. I found some 
description 
(https://www.andysblog.de/dualboot-mit-windows-8-bitlocker-und-debian-wheezy) 
and was able to follow the steps. But after that the windows bootmanager workes 
fine and qubes failed booting...

> 
> 
> 1) having my windows partition Bitlocker encrypted
> 2) run Coreboot
> 3) Beeing able to Multiboot and launch windows without entering the Bitlocker 
> Recovery key
> 

Sounds very good and seems to be perfect for our needs. But what is core boot? 


> I spent lots (!!) of time getting this accomplished, but it worked.
> I can send you my How-to if you are interested.


Your How-to would be a great help for us.

Thanks in advance an greetings, Stefan

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Re: [qubes-users] New with Qubes

2019-07-03 Thread Claudia

27casanov...@gmail.com:

Any links on this explaining it in depth and showing how to sett it up?

I looked in to Qubes site but dident find it.



You should be fine without doing any packet capture. As long as you 
install and use the whonix VM and leave most everything as default, you 
shouldn't have to worry much about leaks. It's quite a reliable setup, 
as long as you don't do anything unusual when installing/configuring.


awokd is right in that your upstream will just see Tor traffic. Much 
like if you use a VPN, they will see VPN traffic. Tor traffic is 
designed to look (superficially) like generic HTTPS traffic. However, if 
someone knows what they're looking for, it's not hard to recognize Tor 
traffic based on its characteristics.


If this is a problem for you, you can try using pluggable transports[1] 
and/or bridge nodes. The 'meek' transport, for example, makes Tor 
traffic look like regular traffic going to Google App Engine.


Someone might be able to help you better on one of the Tor mailing 
lists: https://lists.torproject.org/


[1] https://2019.www.torproject.org/docs/pluggable-transports.html.en

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 15 has been released

2019-07-03 Thread drokmed
On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:24:01 PM UTC-7, haaber wrote:
> > Dear Qubes Community,
> >
> > The Whonix Project [1] announced the release of Whonix 15 today. [2]
> > Project lead Patrick Schleizer [3] wrote:
> >
> >> After approximately one year of development, the Whonix Project is
> >> proud to announce the release of Whonix 15.
>  >
> > Please note that, according to the Whonix Support Schedule [4], Whonix
> > 14 will reach end-of-life (EOL) in one month.
> > Therefore, all current Whonix users are urged to upgrade from Whonix
> > 14 to Whonix 15 [5] within the next month.
> 
> The "instructions" on the whonix webpage are more than confusing. There
> are 3 alternative "ways" suggested. Which one is best /advised?
> 
> I got the impression that a complete reinstall requires (a) a fedora
> appvm (I have none), (b) does *not* work over TOR, since the AppVM's
> based on whonix must be removed (or set to dummy  template) before
> removing the whonix-14-templates. Then sys-whonix is gone, right?
> That seems awkward asprocedure. Can someone explain, please? Why can't I
> install whonix-gw-15 and whonix-ws-15 via dnf in dom0 and THEN remove
> the *-14-* ones? Cheers, Bernhard

Honestly, I'm surprised whonix went ahead and released a major upgrade, on a 
new Debian version that is still frozen, and hasn't been released yet.  Maybe 
they jumped the gun.  I would have waited.

Unless you want to join the testing efforts, I would wait until Qubes releases 
official whonix templates, before trying to install the new version.

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[qubes-users] https://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch Release <- no longer works for whonix updates

2019-07-03 Thread drokmed
Updating whonix-ws-14:

E: The repository 'https://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch Release' does no 
loner have a Release file.

I take it this is because whonix-15 has been released, but we don't have a new 
template to install yet.  I guess I'll have that update icon stuck on for a 
while.

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 15 has been released

2019-07-03 Thread Daniil Travnikov
On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 5:43:26 PM UTC+3, dro...@gmail.com wrote:
> Unless you want to join the testing efforts, I would wait until Qubes 
> releases official whonix templates, before trying to install the new version.

What do you mean? I thought 15 version of Whonix already official in Qubes. Or 
I am missing something?

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 15 has been released

2019-07-03 Thread Daniil Travnikov
On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 4:24:01 AM UTC+3, haaber wrote:
> The "instructions" on the whonix webpage are more than confusing. There
> are 3 alternative "ways" suggested. Which one is best /advised?
> 
> I got the impression that a complete reinstall requires (a) a fedora
> appvm (I have none), (b) does *not* work over TOR, since the AppVM's
> based on whonix must be removed (or set to dummy  template) before
> removing the whonix-14-templates. Then sys-whonix is gone, right?
> That seems awkward asprocedure. Can someone explain, please? Why can't I
> install whonix-gw-15 and whonix-ws-15 via dnf in dom0 and THEN remove
> the *-14-* ones? Cheers, Bernhard

Thank you for your post, I thought that I am alone, but I think the same.

I don't understand why in Qubes we can't install Whonix Templates of any 
version from Dom0 like we usually do when we want to install Fedora,
for example:

sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-XX

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[qubes-users] Re: https://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch Release <- no longer works for whonix updates

2019-07-03 Thread Daniil Travnikov
On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 5:37:32 PM UTC+3, dro...@gmail.com wrote:
> Updating whonix-ws-14:
> 
> E: The repository 'https://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch Release' does no 
> loner have a Release file.
> 
> I take it this is because whonix-15 has been released, but we don't have a 
> new template to install yet.  I guess I'll have that update icon stuck on for 
> a while.

I have the same problem with:

Whonix-gw-14:

Hit:2 
tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion 
stretch InRelease
Hit:4 https://deb.whonix.org stretch InRelease
Get:1 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates InRelease 
[93.6 kB]
Hit:1 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates InRelease
Ign:3 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian stretch InRelease   

Hit:5 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian stretch Release 

Ign:7 https://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch InRelease

Err:8 https://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch Release
  gnutls_handshake() failed: The TLS connection was non-properly terminated.
Reading package lists... Done
E: The repository 'https://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch Release' does no 
longer have a Release file.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore 
disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration 
details.



Whonix-ws-14:

Hit:1 
tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion 
stretch InRelease
Hit:2 https://deb.whonix.org stretch InRelease
Hit:3 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates InRelease
Ign:4 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian stretch InRelease
Hit:5 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian stretch Release
Ign:7 https://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch InRelease
Err:8 https://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch Release
  gnutls_handshake() failed: The TLS connection was non-properly terminated.
Reading package lists... Done
E: The repository 'https://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch Release' does no 
longer have a Release file.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore 
disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration 
details.

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 15 has been released

2019-07-03 Thread 'trichel' via qubes-users
> > Dear Qubes Community,
> > The Whonix Project [1] announced the release of Whonix 15 today. [2]
> > Project lead Patrick Schleizer [3] wrote:
> >
> > > After approximately one year of development, the Whonix Project is
> > > proud to announce the release of Whonix 15.
>
> > Please note that, according to the Whonix Support Schedule [4], Whonix
> > 14 will reach end-of-life (EOL) in one month.
> > Therefore, all current Whonix users are urged to upgrade from Whonix
> > 14 to Whonix 15 [5] within the next month.
>
> The "instructions" on the whonix webpage are more than confusing. There
> are 3 alternative "ways" suggested. Which one is best /advised?
>
> I got the impression that a complete reinstall requires (a) a fedora
> appvm (I have none), (b) does not work over TOR, since the AppVM's
> based on whonix must be removed (or set to dummy template) before
> removing the whonix-14-templates. Then sys-whonix is gone, right?
> That seems awkward asprocedure. Can someone explain, please? Why can't I
> install whonix-gw-15 and whonix-ws-15 via dnf in dom0 and THEN remove
> the -14- ones? Cheers, Bernhard

After botching the whonix-14 template with an unsuccessful upgrade attempt I 
reinstalled it by entering sudo qubes-dom0-update 
--enablerepo=qubes-templates-community --action=reinstall 
qubes-template-whonix-gw-14 as explained at 
https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Reinstall

Because this page gives 'sudo qubesctl state.sls qvm.anon-whonix' as a 
mandatory step I executed that after the reinstall. This installed 2 new 
templates whonix-gw-15, whonix-ws-15 and a whonix-ws-15-dvm, with all the old 
stuff still present. I deleted the Whonix 14 templates with dnf and all seems 
fine now.

So, apparently just entering sudo qubesctl state.sls qvm.anon-whonix is the 
easiest way to install new Whonix 15 templates. I didn't create a special 
update VM for this. Probably it is best to remove the old ones first even 
though it also works if you don't, apparently. If you need to *upgrade* for 
some reason (instead of simply replacing the templates with new ones) then you 
should *NOT* follow this procedure, of course.
Also see: https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Install

I find it pretty confusing too ... Maybe an expert can give some additional 
info :)






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Re: [qubes-users] qubes update servers down?

2019-07-03 Thread Daniil Travnikov
On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 3:38:00 AM UTC+3, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki 
wrote:
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> > On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 09:43:19PM +, mossy wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Updating my qubes templates (debian-9, fedora-29/-30, whonix-14) have
> > > been failing all day with `Failed to synchronize cache for repo
> > > 'qubes-vm-r4.0-current'`
> > > 
> > > There's also this bug report:
> > > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/5130
> > > 
> > > Any updates?
> > 
> > Indeed there is some problem. Working on it, should be back in few
> > minutes (hopefully).
> 
> Took more than few minutes, but it's back online.
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Do you still have this problem today?


Because I can't update my both Whonix templates and my 29-30 Fedora's and 
Debian-9.


Fedora-29 from system Dom0 tray error message:

Updating fedora-29

Error on updating fedora-29: Command '['sudo', 'qubesctl', '--skip-dom0', 
'--targets=fedora-29', '--show-output', 'state.sls', 'update.qubes-vm']' 
returned non-zero exit status 20
b'fedora-29:\n  --\nID: dnf list updates --refresh 
>/dev/null\n  Function: cmd.run\nResult: False\n   Comment: 
Command "dnf list updates --refresh >/dev/null" run\n   Started: 
18:14:55.741878\n  Duration: 37231.142 ms\n   Changes:   \n 
   --\npid:\n1159\n
retcode:\n1\nstderr:\n
Failed to synchronize cache for repo \'qubes-vm-r4.0-current\'\n
Error: Failed to synchronize cache for repo \'qubes-vm-r4.0-current\'\n 
   stdout:\n  --\nID: update\n  Function: 
pkg.uptodate\nResult: True\n   Comment: System is already 
up-to-date\n   Started: 18:15:34.881227\n  Duration: 3.189 ms\n 
  Changes:   \n  \n  Summary for fedora-29\n  \n  Succeeded: 1 
(changed=1)\n  Failed:1\n  \n  Total states run: 2\n  Total 
run time:  72.786 s\n'


>From Fedora-29 terminal:

[user@fedora-29 ~]$ sudo dnf update
Qubes OS Repository for VM (updates)0.0  B/s |   0  B 00:30
Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'qubes-vm-r4.0-current'
Error: Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'qubes-vm-r4.0-current'


>From Fedora-30 terminal:

[user@fedora-30 ~]$ sudo dnf update
Qubes OS Repository for VM (updates)0.0  B/s |   0  B 00:30
Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'qubes-vm-r4.0-current'
Error: Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'qubes-vm-r4.0-current'


>From Debian-9 terminal:

user@debian-9:~$ sudo apt-get update
Hit:1 http://ftp.debian.org/debian stretch-backports InRelease
Ign:2 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian stretch InRelease
Hit:3 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates InRelease
Hit:4 https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian stretch Release
Err:6 https://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch InRelease
  Operation timed out after 12 milliseconds with 0 out of 0 bytes received
Reading package lists... Done
W: Failed to fetch https://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm/dists/stretch/InRelease  
Operation timed out after 12 milliseconds with 0 out of 0 bytes received
W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones 
used instead.



And like I already said the same problem with Whonix both templates.

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 15 has been released

2019-07-03 Thread drokmed
On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 8:21:44 AM UTC-7, Daniil Travnikov wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 5:43:26 PM UTC+3, dro...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Unless you want to join the testing efforts, I would wait until Qubes 
> > releases official whonix templates, before trying to install the new 
> > version.
> 
> What do you mean? I thought 15 version of Whonix already official in Qubes. 
> Or I am missing something?

No, it was officially released by WHONIX, not by Qubes.  I'm sure the Qubes 
engineers are working on an official template as we speak.

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 15 has been released

2019-07-03 Thread Daniil Travnikov
On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 6:52:03 PM UTC+3, dro...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 8:21:44 AM UTC-7, Daniil Travnikov wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 5:43:26 PM UTC+3, dro...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Unless you want to join the testing efforts, I would wait until Qubes 
> > > releases official whonix templates, before trying to install the new 
> > > version.
> > 
> > What do you mean? I thought 15 version of Whonix already official in Qubes. 
> > Or I am missing something?
> 
> No, it was officially released by WHONIX, not by Qubes.  I'm sure the Qubes 
> engineers are working on an official template as we speak.

Tell me please where did you find official Whonix template released by Qubes 
engineers? I mean for example if I have now the 13 version of Whonix, where 
could I get the 14 version from?

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[qubes-users] Problem downloading files

2019-07-03 Thread shamaarmartin96
Small files download fine but when I try to download an appimage or an iso file 
it failed and only downloads the name of the files without an error code.

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[qubes-users] Software market not working. Can’t update qubes and can’t download large files

2019-07-03 Thread shamaarmartin96
For the the software app I get the error: cannot update repo 
‘qubes-vm-r4.0-current’: cannot download repomd.xml:cannot download 
reposts/repomd.xml current error(28)

I updated fedora 29 fine but I left whonix to update all night and one failed 
and the other was still updating.

I can download small files fine but when I try to download AppVMs and iso OS 
they fail with no error code.

Is there any possible way to make my system less buggy and run more smooth? I 
use run in debug mode but that honestly doesn’t do anything

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 15 has been released

2019-07-03 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
Daniil Travnikov:
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 4:24:01 AM UTC+3, haaber wrote:
>> The "instructions" on the whonix webpage are more than confusing. There
>> are 3 alternative "ways" suggested. Which one is best /advised?
>>
>> I got the impression that a complete reinstall requires (a) a fedora
>> appvm (I have none), (b) does *not* work over TOR, since the AppVM's
>> based on whonix must be removed (or set to dummy  template) before
>> removing the whonix-14-templates. Then sys-whonix is gone, right?
>> That seems awkward asprocedure. Can someone explain, please? Why can't I
>> install whonix-gw-15 and whonix-ws-15 via dnf in dom0 and THEN remove
>> the *-14-* ones? Cheers, Bernhard

> Thank you for your post, I thought that I am alone, but I think the same.
> 
> I don't understand why in Qubes we can't install Whonix Templates of any 
> version from Dom0 like we usually do when we want to install Fedora,
> for example:
> 
> sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-XX
> 
I don't see why you couldn't, but you should possibly recreate
sys-whonix and anon-whonix. Not sure it's safe to re-use them. You
should try to use the Salt commands to do this, once you have the -15
templates installed and the -14 and sys/anon-whonix removed. Make sure
you're on mgmt-salt-dom0-virtual-machines v4.0.16 or higher. If you are
doing it manually, you should review everything the scripts do to make
sure you've run the appropriate qvm-features commands, etc. Not
following all the same steps as the Salt scripts could result in
unexpected traffic disclosures. Haven't upgraded these myself yet; I'll
let the early adopters work out the bugs first. ;)

See https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3765 and
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3447 for a longer
discussion of why the upgrade procedure is the way it is. If you can
write smarter Salt scripts, I suspect the Whonix team would be appreciative.

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Re: [qubes-users] Software market not working. Can’t update qubes and can’t download large files

2019-07-03 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
shamaarmarti...@gmail.com:
> For the the software app I get the error: cannot update repo 
> ‘qubes-vm-r4.0-current’: cannot download repomd.xml:cannot download 
> reposts/repomd.xml current error(28)

Don't use it. Use dnf or apt from within your Fedora or Debian
(respectively) template to install packages.

> I updated fedora 29 fine but I left whonix to update all night and one failed 
> and the other was still updating.

One of the repos appears to be having trouble. Try again tomorrow.

> I can download small files fine but when I try to download AppVMs and iso OS 
> they fail with no error code.

Increase your AppVM's private storage space. See the Qubes docs for
howto details if needed.

> Is there any possible way to make my system less buggy and run more smooth? I 
> use run in debug mode but that honestly doesn’t do anything

Apart from the repo having trouble, none of these are bugs- they are
just the way Qubes works. You're right, debug mode won't really help for
that. It might help if you read through the documentation to get a
better understanding of what Qubes is doing, and why. Also, searching
this mailing list and/or qubes-issues can often provide resolutions to
commonly encountered difficulties.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Whonix 15 has been released

2019-07-03 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
Jon deps:

> besides the script if you don't change the "jinja" file, you won't get
> -15  installed

The version of mgmt-salt-dom0-virtual-machine I mentioned should cover that.

> re: removing old anon-whonix TBA-AppVMs
> I believe Patrick said:  you can either remove sys-whonix (on my machine
> sys-whonix-14)  before   new install  or just leave it (and presumably
> have it set to 'dummy template' -- not sure why can't just set it to any
> other template temporarily )
> 
> so presumably that goes for anon-whonix  and its just like any other
> template  upgrade ,  reassigning to the new upgraded Template

Thanks, wasn't sure!

> PS :  how would I check  I'm on the correct  mgmt-salt-dom0-virtual-machine

dom0: dnf list installed

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: sys-net does not start applications

2019-07-03 Thread techpuppy
"You need at least one network capable device in there. Try onboard 
ethernet if possible, that is usually problem free. Once sys-net starts 
up normally, there should be an icon in the top right to configure 
networking."

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I tried ethernet as a last resort.  It did not work.  Also, the icon at the top 
right did not show up.  Occasionally, a white box would appear and disappear 
quickly.

I also had other issues, and I had many errors while installing Qubes (probably 
because I am a noob and I fucked it up).  I had downloaded Qubes on Friday 
(2019-06-28).  I re-downloaded and reinstalled Qubes and have connected to the 
internet and updated :)

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[qubes-users] Re: Whonix 15 has been released

2019-07-03 Thread Jon deps

On 7/3/19 6:54 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:

Daniil Travnikov:

On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 4:24:01 AM UTC+3, haaber wrote:

The "instructions" on the whonix webpage are more than confusing. There
are 3 alternative "ways" suggested. Which one is best /advised?

I got the impression that a complete reinstall requires (a) a fedora
appvm (I have none), (b) does *not* work over TOR, since the AppVM's
based on whonix must be removed (or set to dummy  template) before
removing the whonix-14-templates. Then sys-whonix is gone, right?
That seems awkward asprocedure. Can someone explain, please? Why can't I
install whonix-gw-15 and whonix-ws-15 via dnf in dom0 and THEN remove
the *-14-* ones? Cheers, Bernhard



Thank you for your post, I thought that I am alone, but I think the same.

I don't understand why in Qubes we can't install Whonix Templates of any 
version from Dom0 like we usually do when we want to install Fedora,
for example:

sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-fedora-XX


I don't see why you couldn't, but you should possibly recreate
sys-whonix and anon-whonix. Not sure it's safe to re-use them. You
should try to use the Salt commands to do this, once you have the -15
templates installed and the -14 and sys/anon-whonix removed. Make sure
you're on mgmt-salt-dom0-virtual-machines v4.0.16 or higher. If you are
doing it manually, you should review everything the scripts do to make
sure you've run the appropriate qvm-features commands, etc. Not
following all the same steps as the Salt scripts could result in
unexpected traffic disclosures. Haven't upgraded these myself yet; I'll
let the early adopters work out the bugs first. ;)

See https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3765 and
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3447 for a longer
discussion of why the upgrade procedure is the way it is. If you can
write smarter Salt scripts, I suspect the Whonix team would be appreciative.



besides the script if you don't change the "jinja" file, you won't get 
-15  installed


re: removing old anon-whonix TBA-AppVMs
I believe Patrick said:  you can either remove sys-whonix (on my machine 
sys-whonix-14)  before   new install  or just leave it (and presumably 
have it set to 'dummy template' -- not sure why can't just set it to any 
other template temporarily )


so presumably that goes for anon-whonix  and its just like any other 
template  upgrade ,  reassigning to the new upgraded Template



PS :  how would I check  I'm on the correct  mgmt-salt-dom0-virtual-machine


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Disabling qubes-netvm

2019-07-03 Thread Matthias Brumm
Am Mittwoch, 3. Juli 2019 22:31:16 UTC+2 schrieb awokd:

> That's too bad; Broadcom wifi adapters are notorious for Linux
> unfriendliness. What's the model #? It's possible someone else figured
> out how to get it working, or I suppose it's possible there's no fix.
> I was going to suggest using Ethernet, but then I remembered you said "a
> modern Macbook"...

Yes. Actualy I just hope to get compiz working as I am dependant onb a good 
working screen zoom as on OSX. Then I am sure to use it as a daily driver, when 
getting some Lenovo gear.

Matthias

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Re: [qubes-users] using static dispVM for sys-net

2019-07-03 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
Jon deps:

> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/disposablevm-customization/#using-static-disposablevms-for-sys-
> 
> 
> 
> I can't really understand what the differences would be  with a static
> dispvm (based on a dispvm-template)   vs  just a regular  sys-net
> 
> if nothing is disposed (static) isn't it just the same
> 
"Static" there refers to the name and VM configuration, not the
contents. You only have to set them up once, not every time.

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Re: [qubes-users] Dns-over-TLS in sys-vpn. Is it possible? How?

2019-07-03 Thread 'qubeslover' via qubes-users




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On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 5:24 AM, Sphere  wrote:

> You're welcome and good luck!
> In any case, I was reminded that any sort of communication between 
> non-interconnected qubes are not allowed. So even if both of your AppVM qubes 
> and sys-dns qube are connected to sys-firewall then they won't be able to 
> communicate with each other by default. Additional iptables rules must be 
> added to allow it according to what's written here:
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/firewall/#enabling-networking-between-two-qubes

Hello! Here I am again as promised.
In summary: I managed to create a sys-dns qube running DoT. Long story short, 
it is far from usable. Here are the steps I followed.

0. qvm-clone debian-10-minimal d10-minimal-dns.

1. Create a sys-dns qube which provides network and is based on 
d10-minimal-dns. This qube is behind sys-firewall.

2. qvm-run -u root d10-minimal-dns 'apt install qubes-core-agent-networking 
stubby'

3. In d10-minimal-dns 'nano /etc/stubby/stubby.yml' and add the following 
option >

listen_addresses:
  - 127.0.0.1
  - 0::1
  - 10.137.0.xx # this is sys-dns IP address.


4. In d10-minimal-dns 'nano /etc/resolv.conf >
nameserver 127.0.0.1
namerserver ::1

5. qvm-shutdown d10-minimal-dns

6. qvm-start sys-dns

7. In sys-dns 'nano /rw/config/rc.local' >

iptables -I INPUT -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT
iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT

8. qvm-shutdown sys-dns

9. Set sys-dns as the network qube of a random app qubes (i.e. 'firefox')

firefox => sys-dns => sys-firewall => sys-net

10. In firefox 'nano /etc/resolv.conf' >
nameserver 10.137.xx # this is sys-dns IP address.

Check with dnsleaktest.com: DoT is working fine and firefox is resolving with 
the standard stubby provider.

Until step 9 every step is easily doable. However step 10 is kind of issue. 
Without step 10, the qube behind sys-dns is using the DNS of my Internet 
provider in order to resolv any address. I can't change resolv.conf everytime I 
open a qube, nor I think is a good idea to change resolv.conf in the template.

Thanks for any suggestions. I am just trying to find a suitable way to run DoT 
on Qubes.

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 15 has been released

2019-07-03 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
Daniil Travnikov:
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 6:52:03 PM UTC+3, dro...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 8:21:44 AM UTC-7, Daniil Travnikov wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 5:43:26 PM UTC+3, dro...@gmail.com wrote:
 Unless you want to join the testing efforts, I would wait until Qubes 
 releases official whonix templates, before trying to install the new 
 version.
>>>
>>> What do you mean? I thought 15 version of Whonix already official in Qubes. 
>>> Or I am missing something?
>>
>> No, it was officially released by WHONIX, not by Qubes.  I'm sure the Qubes 
>> engineers are working on an official template as we speak.
> 
> Tell me please where did you find official Whonix template released by Qubes 
> engineers? I mean for example if I have now the 13 version of Whonix, where 
> could I get the 14 version from?
> 
Please see https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Install to upgrade your
Whonix qubes. 13 is out of date and unsupported. 15 is the new version.

Whonix templates are developed and maintained by the Whonix team. They
are available from the Qubes "community" repo. Following the linked
procedure will result in them getting downloaded from there. Unless
there have been some recent developments, they are not technically Qubes
official templates- those are located in the templates-itl repo.

In other words, Qubes-Whonix 15 is as official as it's going to get. :)
Looks like Qubes 4.0.2 is on the way which will include the updated
templates too, but it could be a couple months:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/5108.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Disabling qubes-netvm

2019-07-03 Thread Matthias Brumm
Am Mittwoch, 3. Juli 2019 09:17:02 UTC+2 schrieb Matthias Brumm:

> That was a very good idea. After editing the xml file I got to the stage 2 
> and I think Qubes had to do some last steps. Then Qubes OS booted. When I 
> have the time, I can now look into enabling network etc.
> 
> When I am done, I try to make a short section for the macbook troubleshooting 
> information.

I don't know, if Qubes is possible on a modern Macbook. I have tried several 
ways to attach the Broadcom wifi to sys-net, but either it is not shown in the 
machine or the system freezes.

And this struggles before trying to get the keyboard and touchpad running 
(still using USB keyboard and mouse.

Apple seems to do a great work in locking their system up.

Perhaps I can get a new laptop for my work in some months or so.

Matthias

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Re: [qubes-users] How do I install programs in Windows 7 Qube?

2019-07-03 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
oak2...@gmail.com:
> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 7:32:32 PM UTC-4, awokd wrote:
> 
>>> Installer programs I believe need to be run from the windows os, so not 
>>> sure how to copy it to the desktop of the os to run it.
>>>
>>
>> If you have the windows tools properly installed, you should be able to 
>> copy to it from a different VM with qvm-copy.
> 
> Great, now I can't install Windows Tools.  When I type in the command from 
> Qubes website it says:
> 
> Cannot retrieve repository metadata (respond.xml) for repository: 
> Qubes-dom0-current.
> 
A repo is temporarily unavailable. Try again tomorrow. In the meantime,
it would probably be a good idea to shutdown your win7 VM and make a
clone. Installing those Windows Tools can often result in a broken VM if
you miss a step, so you want to have a good copy.

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[qubes-users] using static dispVM for sys-net

2019-07-03 Thread Jon deps

am curious if anyone actually does this , and how

or would it make any sense instead to use a static sys-firewall ,  if I 
just have the default  sys-firewall  (which might be easier because 
there would not be a need for the PCI  setup  ?each time)



https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/disposablevm-customization/#using-static-disposablevms-for-sys-


I can't really understand what the differences would be  with a static 
dispvm (based on a dispvm-template)   vs  just a regular  sys-net


if nothing is disposed (static) isn't it just the same

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[qubes-users] Fwd: Us congress hearing of maan alsaan Money laundry قضية الكونغجرس لغسيل الأموال للمليادير معن الصانع

2019-07-03 Thread rado al
YouTube videos of



 U.S. Congress money laundering hearing


of

Saudi Billionaire  " Maan  Al sanea"

 with *bank of America*


and  The  owner of Saad Hospital and  Schools

 in the Eastern Province in *Saudi Arabia*



and the Chairman of the Board of Directors of Awal Bank  in *Bahrain*


With Arabic Subtitles





*موقع اليوتيوب الذي عرض جلسة استماع الكونجرس الأمريكي *

* لمتابعة نشاطات غسل الأموال ونشاطات*



*السعودي معن عبدالواحد الصانع*



*مالك مستشفى  وشركة سعد  ومدارس سعد بالمنطقة الشرقية بالسعودية   ورئيس مجلس
ادارة بنك اوال البحريني*



*مترجم باللغة العربية*



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIBNnQvhU8s

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: No vpn-handler-openvpn in service tab

2019-07-03 Thread Philip Pians
Must be doing something wrong? Wanted to do the test stage and discovered no 
file called vpn-client-conf. There’s only Openvpn.ovpn; ca.crt; client.crt, and 
client.key that download from VPN provider. Help please. 

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 15 has been released

2019-07-03 Thread drokmed
On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 1:13:58 PM UTC-7, awokd wrote:
> Daniil Travnikov:
> > On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 6:52:03 PM UTC+3, dro...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 8:21:44 AM UTC-7, Daniil Travnikov wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 5:43:26 PM UTC+3, dro...@gmail.com wrote:
>  Unless you want to join the testing efforts, I would wait until Qubes 
>  releases official whonix templates, before trying to install the new 
>  version.
> >>>
> >>> What do you mean? I thought 15 version of Whonix already official in 
> >>> Qubes. Or I am missing something?
> >>
> >> No, it was officially released by WHONIX, not by Qubes.  I'm sure the 
> >> Qubes engineers are working on an official template as we speak.
> > 
> > Tell me please where did you find official Whonix template released by 
> > Qubes engineers? I mean for example if I have now the 13 version of Whonix, 
> > where could I get the 14 version from?
> > 
> Please see https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Install to upgrade your
> Whonix qubes. 13 is out of date and unsupported. 15 is the new version.
> 
> Whonix templates are developed and maintained by the Whonix team. They
> are available from the Qubes "community" repo. Following the linked
> procedure will result in them getting downloaded from there. Unless
> there have been some recent developments, they are not technically Qubes
> official templates- those are located in the templates-itl repo.
> 
> In other words, Qubes-Whonix 15 is as official as it's going to get. :)
> Looks like Qubes 4.0.2 is on the way which will include the updated
> templates too, but it could be a couple months:
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/5108.

Followed the instructions, removed ALL whonix stuff.

To install new version, you run:

sudo qubesctl state.sls qvm.anon-whonix

All that did was re-install all of the whonix-14 stuff I just removed.  Back to 
where I started.

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[qubes-users] Re: Whonix 15 has been released

2019-07-03 Thread Jon deps

On 7/3/19 8:33 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:

Jon deps:


besides the script if you don't change the "jinja" file, you won't get
-15  installed


Well it's in his docs for  New Install , added after the other elements 
were, apparently




The version of mgmt-salt-dom0-virtual-machine I mentioned should cover that.


re: removing old anon-whonix TBA-AppVMs
I believe Patrick said:  you can either remove sys-whonix (on my machine
sys-whonix-14)  before   new install  or just leave it (and presumably
have it set to 'dummy template' -- not sure why can't just set it to any
other template temporarily )

so presumably that goes for anon-whonix  and its just like any other
template  upgrade ,  reassigning to the new upgraded Template


Thanks, wasn't sure!



He just made the remark re: sys-whonix  so its just a presumption





PS :  how would I check  I'm on the correct  mgmt-salt-dom0-virtual-machine





dom0: dnf list installed


well this doesn't show the version  all the other qubes-mgmt-salt  show 
versions but Not


qubes-mgmt-salt-dom0-virtual-machines.noarch






dom0 ~]$ dnf list -v installed|grep mgmt
qubes-mgmt-salt.noarch 4.0.18-1.fc25 
@qubes-dom0-cached
qubes-mgmt-salt-admin-tools.noarch 4.0.18-1.fc25 
@qubes-dom0-cached
qubes-mgmt-salt-base.noarch4.0.3-1.fc25 
@qubes-dom0-cached
qubes-mgmt-salt-base-config.noarch 4.0.1-1.fc25 
@qubes-dom0-cached
qubes-mgmt-salt-base-overrides.noarch  4.0.2-1.fc25 
@qubes-dom0-cached

qubes-mgmt-salt-base-overrides-libs.noarch
qubes-mgmt-salt-base-topd.noarch   4.0.1-1.fc25 
@qubes-dom0-cached
qubes-mgmt-salt-config.noarch  4.0.18-1.fc25 
@qubes-dom0-cached
qubes-mgmt-salt-dom0.noarch4.0.18-1.fc25 
@qubes-dom0-cached
qubes-mgmt-salt-dom0-qvm.noarch4.0.8-1.fc25 
@qubes-dom0-cached
qubes-mgmt-salt-dom0-update.noarch 4.0.8-1.fc25 
@qubes-dom0-cached

qubes-mgmt-salt-dom0-virtual-machines.noarch

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Re: [qubes-users] How do I install programs in Windows 7 Qube?

2019-07-03 Thread oak2572
On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 7:32:32 PM UTC-4, awokd wrote:

> > Installer programs I believe need to be run from the windows os, so not 
> > sure how to copy it to the desktop of the os to run it.
> > 
> 
> If you have the windows tools properly installed, you should be able to 
> copy to it from a different VM with qvm-copy.

Great, now I can't install Windows Tools.  When I type in the command from 
Qubes website it says:

Cannot retrieve repository metadata (respond.xml) for repository: 
Qubes-dom0-current.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Disabling qubes-netvm

2019-07-03 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
Matthias Brumm:
> Am Mittwoch, 3. Juli 2019 09:17:02 UTC+2 schrieb Matthias Brumm:
> 
>> That was a very good idea. After editing the xml file I got to the stage 2 
>> and I think Qubes had to do some last steps. Then Qubes OS booted. When I 
>> have the time, I can now look into enabling network etc.
>>
>> When I am done, I try to make a short section for the macbook 
>> troubleshooting information.
> 
> I don't know, if Qubes is possible on a modern Macbook. I have tried several 
> ways to attach the Broadcom wifi to sys-net, but either it is not shown in 
> the machine or the system freezes.
> 
> And this struggles before trying to get the keyboard and touchpad running 
> (still using USB keyboard and mouse.
> 
> Apple seems to do a great work in locking their system up.
> 
> Perhaps I can get a new laptop for my work in some months or so.

That's too bad; Broadcom wifi adapters are notorious for Linux
unfriendliness. What's the model #? It's possible someone else figured
out how to get it working, or I suppose it's possible there's no fix.
I was going to suggest using Ethernet, but then I remembered you said "a
modern Macbook"...

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Whonix 15 has been released

2019-07-03 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
Jon deps:
> On 7/3/19 8:33 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:

>> dom0: dnf list installed
> 
> well this doesn't show the version  all the other qubes-mgmt-salt  show
> versions but Not
> 
> qubes-mgmt-salt-dom0-virtual-machines.noarch

Try dnf info then.

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[qubes-users] Debian-10 Buster coming in 3 days? scheduled for July 6th

2019-07-03 Thread drokmed
Just read an article, that says Buster is scheduled to be released this 
Saturday, July 6th.  Any confirmation of this?

https://itsfoss.com/debian-10-buster/

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 15 has been released

2019-07-03 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
drok...@gmail.com:

> Followed the instructions, removed ALL whonix stuff.
> 
> To install new version, you run:
> 
> sudo qubesctl state.sls qvm.anon-whonix
> 
> All that did was re-install all of the whonix-14 stuff I just removed.  Back 
> to where I started.

Well, huh. Here's the merge to master that should have set it to pull
-15 instead. Try updating that jinja file manually per Jon's suggestion?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: No vpn-handler-openvpn in service tab

2019-07-03 Thread Chris Laprise

On 7/3/19 5:34 PM, Philip Pians wrote:

Must be doing something wrong? Wanted to do the test stage and discovered no 
file called vpn-client-conf. There’s only Openvpn.ovpn; ca.crt; client.crt, and 
client.key that download from VPN provider. Help please.



Where it says:

sudo cp US_East.ovpn vpn-client.conf

...the 'US_East.ovpn' is just an example. So you would do this instead:

sudo cp Openvpn.ovpn vpn-client.conf

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[qubes-users] Re: Whonix 15 has been released

2019-07-03 Thread dimi
I think the whonix upgrade guide is missing how to handle the a) renaming of 
the now upgraded templates or b) deleting them. I tried renaming 14 to 15 and 
ended up with new templates having the upgraded name with 15 in them. Maybe 
this is just a problem with Qubes Manager.

Please advice how to proceed, delete the new 15 templates and manually rename 
the 14 ones to 15 or manually delete the upgraded 14 templates?

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 15 has been released

2019-07-03 Thread drokmed
On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 7:10:13 PM UTC-7, awokd wrote:
> drok...@gmail.com:
> 
> > Followed the instructions, removed ALL whonix stuff.
> > 
> > To install new version, you run:
> > 
> > sudo qubesctl state.sls qvm.anon-whonix
> > 
> > All that did was re-install all of the whonix-14 stuff I just removed.  
> > Back to where I started.
> 
> Well, huh. Here's the merge to master that should have set it to pull
> -15 instead. Try updating that jinja file manually per Jon's suggestion?

Actually, I found an easier way.  The way it should be, really.

>From dom0 terminal:

sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community --action=install 
qubes-template-whonix-gw-15

sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community --action=install 
qubes-template-whonix-ws-15

Works fine here.  Can't upgrade from Qube Manager, but can upgrade manually 
from a terminal:

sudo apt-get-update-plus dist-upgrade

When a new template comes out, should be easy to upgrade to, or at a minimum, 
just remove, then install new one.  I'll stick with these for now.  Works.

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[qubes-users] Re: Browsers

2019-07-03 Thread Jon deps

On 7/3/19 1:22 AM, 'Epinsion Polickye' via qubes-users wrote:

Hi,

I am attempting to use my personal domain to use a few services, however I'm 
finding a particular issue with two services.

When I attempt to watch some particular videos from pluralsight, or access a 
service in Office365, the site loops / reloads 3-20 times before failing to 
load the resource. Errors in the browser console seem to indicate it is to do 
will supported file types and codecs.

I don't have any blockers, issues with cookies, issues with filters.

Attempted to resolve by installing some gstreamer plugins to no avail (with 
untrusted repos, without checking signatures etc).

Can anyone provide recommended reading for:
- Trusting new repos, adding them, verifying signatures, and why (what threats 
am I defending against, and the likelihood of such threats occuring?)
- Linux video and audio formats, mimetypes, the defaults, how to add all of 
them / common types (good, bad, and ugly)
- Linux + firefox - getting the services I mentioned to work, and ensure codecs 
and the like are available for other services in the future (want to avoid a 
similar issue - disruptive to productivity)
- advice if anyone has come across such issues before

Thanks a heap.



I'm guessing you might want to try a less secure, and hence easier to 
use  linux distro



While you can get a lot of multimedia working, there is a trade off for 
security by isolation


maybe you might want to try this  with maybe  Fedora-30
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multimedia/

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[qubes-users] Re: Whonix 15 has been released

2019-07-03 Thread Jon deps

On 7/4/19 4:14 AM, dimi wrote:

I think the whonix upgrade guide is missing how to handle the a) renaming of 
the now upgraded templates or b) deleting them. I tried renaming 14 to 15 and 
ended up with new templates having the upgraded name with 15 in them. Maybe 
this is just a problem with Qubes Manager.

Please advice how to proceed, delete the new 15 templates and manually rename 
the 14 ones to 15 or manually delete the upgraded 14 templates?



they usually want you to ask  Whonix questions on the Qubes-Whonix forum 
 fwiw


https://forums.whonix.org/c/qubes-whonix

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Quick question please, need help!

2019-07-03 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 03/07/2019 3.11 AM, Sphere wrote:
> I'm not particularly knowledgeable about the verification process
> being done by dnf on the signature of packages so the question
> still lies on me: Is downloading packages from plaintext http
> susceptible to MITM?
> 

Suppose an attacker intercepts a package with a valid signature,
modifies it, then passes it along to you. When you receive it, dnf
(technically gpgv) will not be able to verify the signature (since the
package has been modified), so the package won't be installed. In this
sense, the MITM attempt will fail. Of course, there's no such thing as
perfect security, so an MITM is technically possible if the attacker
were find some way to defeat this system, e.g., obtain a copy of the
signing key or craft malicious input that exploits a vulnerability in
gpgv. (This is why signing keys are closely guarded and gpgv is
intentionally simpler and harder to exploit than gpg.)

> Even if that is not the case, I believe we can't be for sure that
> there's no exploitable vulnerability on dnf involving packages
> poisoned either from the source itself or in transit through
> plaintext http.
> 

Correct. We can never be sure that there isn't some security flaw that
we haven't discovered yet. This is, in fact, a fundamental tenet of
the Qubes philosophy: All software has bugs, and we can't fix them
all. As we speak, bug software is being written around the world. Even
if we tried, we couldn't fix them quickly enough to keep up with the
rate at which they're being produced. Instead, we compartmentalize.
Separate things in their own boxes so that when bugs inevitably bite,
the damage is limited. For the software we can't compartmentalize,
keep it as minimal as possible.

In any case, it would better to have both signed packages _and_
transit via HTTPS. If I had to choose just one, I'd pick signed
packages, since it wouldn't be difficult for an attacker to serve
malicious packages over HTTPS. But, again, both would be better.

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