Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Ship date?

2009-09-30 Thread bruce

The Squeezebox website now says you can pre-order for shipment on
October 1.

Hey Logitech, I know you're working hard and I'm sure 99% of us don't
mind waiting an extra few days or even weeks for the Radio. But it would
be good customer service to email people who pre-ordered telling them
that shipment is delayed by a few days. We shouldn't have to monitor the
website or these forums to learn of the delay.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power adapter?

2009-09-30 Thread peterw

mbg;464023 Wrote: 
> Is the power adapter the same as the one for the Boom? Just wondering if
> I will be able to use either unit with an in-place power adapter by just
> plugging it in.
> 

Nope. Boom ships with a 12v adapter but Radio is designed for 18v, and
needs 18v to charge the optional battery pack (and presumably you'd void
your warranty if you tried to run it on your 12v Boom adapter).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] "Queen: Absolute Greatest" 'app' kicks butt

2009-09-30 Thread MeSue

dean;464022 Wrote: 
> MeSue: Did you do a factory reset like Chris suggested?  Some of the
> beta units got confused when the production servers went live.

Yes, I did factory reset. No change.

Just now I stopped Squeezebox server and then was able to connect my
Touch to mysqueezebox.com and play the Queen songs. However, the player
still does not show as connected on the mysqueezebox.com web site so
it's pretty crippled. I can't enable scrobbling or change any settings.

As for the Absolute Greatest... it was a let-down. I already own all
these songs. I thought this would be something new and different. Does
Queen have more "greatest" compilation albums than any band, or what?


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[SlimDevices: Radio] Power adapter?

2009-09-30 Thread mbg

Is the power adapter the same as the one for the Boom? Just wondering if
I will be able to use either unit with an in-place power adapter by just
plugging it in.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] "Queen: Absolute Greatest" 'app' kicks butt

2009-09-30 Thread dean blackketter
MeSue: Did you do a factory reset like Chris suggested?  Some of the
beta units got confused when the production servers went live.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Ship date?

2009-09-30 Thread gweempose

Out of curiosity, were there enough of them made to fill all the
pre-orders? The reason I ask is because I ordered mine from Amazon just
a couple of days ago. Clearly, this puts me pretty far down the queue.


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[SlimDevices: Radio] flickr app is pretty cool

2009-09-30 Thread JJZolx

Get this.  I have the Radio on my desk along with the Touch and am
playing with the IR remote input on the Touch.  Both players are
receiving the IR signals, but I'm not paying any attention to the Radio.
If it does something silly I just reach over and stop playback, turn it
off or pull the power plug.

But then out of the corner of my eye I notice these cool photos being
displayed on the Radio's screen.  Somehow I'd gotten into the flickr
app's Interesting Photos.  Neat stuff.  Viewed from about 4 feet away it
looks much better on the little screen than I would ever have expected.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] "Queen: Absolute Greatest" 'app' kicks butt

2009-09-30 Thread MeSue


I really want to listen to Queen, but I can't access anything under "My
Apps" because it thinks my players are registered to another user. I've
gotten no help in the forum and my message to support hasn't been
answered yet. 


I'm sure support is being hit hard, but I was hoping it was a simple
reset or something.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Ship date?

2009-09-30 Thread bruce

Thanks for the info. When you say you will "begin" shipping preorders,
roughly how long will it take to fill all the preorders?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Does this new model have a auto-sleep button?

2009-09-30 Thread Dean Blackketter

On Sep 30, 2009, at 3:11 PM, Milhouse wrote:
> The fact it has to be pointed out explains why sales will be lost -
> people expect a dedicated snooze button on a bedside alarm, usually on
> top where it can get slapped several times each morning...
>
> Twiddling a knob in the morning might work (ahem)
Just slap the thing, you don't need to twiddle at all.  It's a big  
button.


> but unfortunately I
> have no intention of putting myself into a position where I have to  
> ship
> the Radio back to the retailer at my own cost should I find it doesn't
> work for me.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained.  See you in the other forums!

All the best,

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio with Color Screen?

2009-09-30 Thread vw195

iPhone;463894 Wrote: 
> Hello and welcome to the Forum.
> 
> Just exactly how would the Forum answer this question? How would
> Logitech answer this question? The unit has been released by Logitech
> and just needs to work its way down the distribution chain. I can't
> answer this question either but I can tell you how it probably works.
> 
> One makes a pre-order. The order goes into a queue. Amazon will receive
> inventory from Logitech's distribution chain. They will bill the credit
> cards in the pre-order queue and ship out Squeezebox Radios.
> 
> So as a partial answer it depends on when Amazon receives its stock and
> where ones pre-order is in the queue and how far away one lives from
> where they ship from. So I will take a SWAG that one might get it in the
> next two weeks.
> 
> On a side note, one should have ordered from Logitech because they are
> going to ship first and they usually give some sort of free speedy
> shipping on pre-orders.

Actually according to this thread
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68123&page=4 Amazon
should get it today or tomorrow. 

Technically the way it should work is that the unit should be available
on its release date everywhere. 

I would have ordered from logitech except Amazon had free shipping so I
opted for that.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio with Color Screen?

2009-09-30 Thread iPhone

jyams;463849 Wrote: 
> When will this new radio be available?  I've preordered on Amazon, but
> there is no estimated date of availability.

Hello and welcome to the Forum.

Just exactly how would the Forum answer this question? How would
Logitech answer this question? The unit has been released by Logitech
and just needs to work its way down the distribution chain. I can't
answer this question either but I can tell you how it probably works.

One makes a pre-order. The order goes into a queue. Amazon will receive
inventory from Logitech's distribution chain. They will bill the credit
cards in the pre-order queue and ship out Squeezebox Radios.

So as a partial answer it depends on when Amazon receives its stock and
where ones pre-order is in the queue and how far away one lives from
where they ship from. So I will take a SWAG that one might get it in the
next two weeks.

On a side note, one should have ordered from Logitech because they are
going to ship first and they usually give some sort of free speedy
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Does this new model have a auto-sleep button?

2009-09-30 Thread Milhouse

dean;463872 Wrote: 
> How about this:
> 
> The biggest control on the product is a SNOOZE button which is a  
> gigantic button on the front of the unit.
> 
> Oh, and it can also be used for scrolling.  :)

The fact it has to be pointed out explains why sales will be lost -
people expect a dedicated snooze button on a bedside alarm, usually on
top where it can get slapped several times each morning...

Twiddling a knob in the morning might work (ahem) but unfortunately I
have no intention of putting myself into a position where I have to ship
the Radio back to the retailer at my own cost should I find it doesn't
work for me. It will be interesting to read the experiences of those who
do give it a try though.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Does this new model have a auto-sleep button?

2009-09-30 Thread Dean Blackketter
How about this:

The biggest control on the product is a SNOOZE button which is a  
gigantic button on the front of the unit.

Oh, and it can also be used for scrolling.  :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Does this new model have a auto-sleep button?

2009-09-30 Thread Milhouse

Considering I would have bought the Radio over the internet it's too
much of a risk and simply too much hassle to buy it only to find the
knob is not an adequate replacement for a snooze button, so I'll be
waiting for the successor Radio II, or buying an alternative to replace
my decrepit Sony FM radio/alarm with it's honking big - and well used -
snooze button.

I'd love to have bought a Logitech Radio but I don't see why I should
take a leap of faith and potentially waste money on return shipping (and
yet more on re-stocking fees) over something so basic/obvious as a
snooze button on a product designed for use in as a bedside alarm.

I genuinely believe Logitech will lose a ton of sales over this design
oddball decision. :(


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Does this new model have a auto-sleep button?

2009-09-30 Thread morgan4x4

dean;463390 Wrote: 
> On Sep 30, 2009, at 3:06 AM, morgan4x4 wrote:
> > I am curious to _hear_from_Logitech_ why they decided to design this
> > product without the snooze.
> I don't work for Logitech anymore, but I was one of the product  
> designers.
> 
> We decided that the biggest control on the device, the giant knob in  
> the middle of the front, would be an adequate snooze button.
> 
> If you haven't seen one in person yet, buy it and take advantage of  
> the 30-day money back guarantee.  If you find the snooze too awkward, 
> 
> take it back!
> 
> -dean

Dean, good point, but you did not answer why you did not design in the
snooze button as a convenience rather than rely on an "adequate"
solution.  I will keep my order and give it a try.  Thanks for the
feedback.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Release date for Squeezebox Radio? Europe?

2009-09-30 Thread mparry

I am trying to get dates for Europe and Availability of red. Ill post up
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Release date for Squeezebox Radio? Europe?

2009-09-30 Thread mmca22gr

I see that most UK sites are stating 2 weeks lead time. ETA 15-OCT-09
Still nothing on the red one!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Does this new model have a auto-sleep button?

2009-09-30 Thread mathfuzzy

dean;463390 Wrote: 
> On Sep 30, 2009, at 3:06 AM, morgan4x4 wrote:
> > I am curious to _hear_from_Logitech_ why they decided to design this
> > product without the snooze.
> I don't work for Logitech anymore, but I was one of the product  
> designers.
> 
> We decided that the biggest control on the device, the giant knob in  
> the middle of the front, would be an adequate snooze button.
> 
> If you haven't seen one in person yet, buy it and take advantage of  
> the 30-day money back guarantee.  If you find the snooze too awkward, 
> 
> take it back!
> 
> -dean

Good suggestion Dean. A bit of a hassle if it doesn't work, but worth a
try. It seems like a great device, so worth a try. I was mostly thrown
off the scent when it sounded as though I could inadvertently cancel the
alarm, rather than invoke a snooze, with the big button. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] "Queen: Absolute Greatest" 'app' kicks butt

2009-09-30 Thread kdf

bluegaspode;463062 Wrote: 
> I tried with controller, I can see the lyrics and pictures.
> Commentary and actual tracks don't play it just says 'file not found'.
> 
> So maybe they 'fixed' it in the meantime that it will only play on
> radio. ?

It seems that, bizarrely, the Queen app is not supported in the 7.4.0
release.  I was running 7.4.0 from the source code branch.  I was able
to install the app, but got that same error.  The log says there is no
protocol handler.  Once I switched to the trunk (what is now called
7.4.1 in nightly builds), SqueezeboxServer added a Queen plugin which
then allowed the urls to play.

In my case, it was on a Touch and a Radio

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Ship date?

2009-09-30 Thread vw195

mparry;463511 Wrote: 
> The radios were not released from our dc's until yesterday morning. They
> were held at the dc's until the software was ready to go.
> Orders placed on www.logitech.com and Amazon.com should start shipping
> today.
> Our site www.logitechsqueezebox.com will receive our initial shipment
> tomorrow and will begin shipping our pre-orders. We will be upgrading
> the shipping for everyone who pre ordered.
> Once we have units in our warehouse I will remove the pre-order status
> from Radio.
> Believe me we are all as anxious as you are to get these units out the
> door.

Hope you are correct as far as Amazon goes.  I upped the shipping to
next day, so if Amazon gets on the ball in the next few hours I could
have it by tomorrow !!! (need to work on my patience)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Power on question

2009-09-30 Thread toby10

Yes, but removing power will require a complete Radio re-boot (guessing
around 60 seconds).  But yes it will then start playing the station it
was playing when it was turned off (removed power).

In a more normal usage mode, the Radio will be turned off (actually,
standby) by pressing the Power button.  Then simply pressing the Play
button powers on Radio (wakes from standby) and immediately plays the
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Release date for Squeezebox Radio? Europe?

2009-09-30 Thread testmatch

and when the red version will be available to order in the UK please?
It's not showing as an option on the Logitech or Amazon stores over
here.

Thanks,

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Release date for Squeezebox Radio? Europe?

2009-09-30 Thread shevans

mparry;463506 Wrote: 
> So www.logitechsqueezebox.com will get our initial stock of Radios
> tomorrow (Thursday Oct 1)
> We will be upgrading the shipping for everyone who pre-ordered to next
> day air for the delay.
> Amazon should begin shipping orders out if they have not already, same
> for Logitech.com.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Ship date?

2009-09-30 Thread mparry

The radios were not released from our dc's until yesterday morning. They
were held at the dc's until the software was ready to go.
Orders placed on www.logitech.com and Amazon.com should start shipping
today.
Our site www.logitechsqueezebox.com will receive our initial shipment
tomorrow and will begin shipping our pre-orders. We will be upgrading
the shipping for everyone who pre ordered.
Once we have units in our warehouse I will remove the pre-order status
from Radio.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Release date for Squeezebox Radio? Europe?

2009-09-30 Thread mparry

So www.logitechsqueezebox.com will get our initial stock of Radios
tomorrow (Thursday Oct 1)
We will be upgrading the shipping for everyone who pre-ordered to next
day air for the delay.
Amazon should begin shipping orders out if they have not already, same
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Ship date?

2009-09-30 Thread vw195

Showing up as in stock at Logitech store...

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/wireless_music_systems/devices/5847&cl=us,en


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] "Queen: Absolute Greatest" 'app' kicks butt

2009-09-30 Thread MacFrugal

kidstypike;463006 Wrote: 
> The option to play the tracks on a Boom is available from the
> controller, if you have one.

I do not have a controller. Doesn't seem like that should be a
prerequisite for playing the tracks, considering I can get the
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Does this new model have a auto-sleep button?

2009-09-30 Thread Dean Blackketter

On Sep 30, 2009, at 3:06 AM, morgan4x4 wrote:
> I am curious to _hear_from_Logitech_ why they decided to design this
> product without the snooze.
I don't work for Logitech anymore, but I was one of the product  
designers.

We decided that the biggest control on the device, the giant knob in  
the middle of the front, would be an adequate snooze button.

If you haven't seen one in person yet, buy it and take advantage of  
the 30-day money back guarantee.  If you find the snooze too awkward,  
take it back!

-dean


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Does this new model have a auto-sleep button?

2009-09-30 Thread Howard Passman

mathfuzzy;463336 Wrote: 
> With respect to snooze buttons being for sissies - well, be that at it
> may, this sissy doesn't always wake up immediately and builds those 9
> minutes into the morning routine.  Sounds as though I'm not alone in
> this regard.
> 
> With respect to the lack of a snooze button being a fatal flaw, I
> completely agree.  It makes a great deal more sense that it would NOT be
> on the Boom, but would be on the Radio.  I'm trying to talk myself into
> the kludge of pushing the volume button as an acceptable solution, but
> it really isn't. Once (if?) the Radio has a dedicated snooze button on
> top, count me as a customer.

Yeah, I was just kidding.  I barely sleep anyway so getting up is no
problem and it's rare that I haven't been up for a few hours before the
alarm goes off at 3:30.  I reccommend one of those coffee machines that
grinds the beans before it makes coffee.  I don't think anyone can sleep
through that.

The missing snooze button is silly, but some of the suggestions, like
any movement of the knob, seem very doable.  I'd be happy with that if I
wasn't all ready up.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Does this new model have a auto-sleep button?

2009-09-30 Thread Phil Leigh

For Heavens sake, we've got 2 snooze buttons... that's one more than any
clock radio I've ever owned!


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SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W -
MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x
LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue
Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Does this new model have a auto-sleep button?

2009-09-30 Thread mathfuzzy

With respect to snooze buttons being for sissies - well, be that at it
may, this sissy doesn't always wake up immediately and builds those 9
minutes into the morning routine.  Sounds as though I'm not alone in
this regard.

With respect to the lack of a snooze button being a fatal flaw, I
completely agree.  It makes a great deal more sense that it would NOT be
on the Boom, but would be on the Radio.  I'm trying to talk myself into
the kludge of pushing the volume button as an acceptable solution, but
it really isn't. Once (if?) the Radio has a dedicated snooze button on
top, count me as a customer.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Ship date?

2009-09-30 Thread gfuchs

Logitech and Amazon both still say pre-order.


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[SlimDevices: Radio] Power on question

2009-09-30 Thread Dermaplex

Hello,

Could someone tell me if it possible to automatically have the last
preset played when you power on the radio (like a real radio, as it is
claimed the the Squeezebox radio behaves like a real radio). 

Should be nice in a bathroom when you power on the light (and this
powers on as well the power sockets) that the radio plays
automatically

Something tells me that this should not be so difficult to implement,
no?

Dx.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Does this new model have a auto-sleep button?

2009-09-30 Thread morgan4x4

I read this thread with amazement.  I have a SB Radio on order with
Amazon,  I placed the order on Sept 3 and simply assumed that a product
marketed as a bedside radio (with alarm) would have a snooze button. 
This is the most basic of functionality.  The Boom, of which I have 3,
is frankly too big to be an aesthetic alarm clock replacement.  Despite
this, it has a snooze button, something I rely on each morning to give
me that extra 9 minutes from 4:51 - 5:00.  

I am curious to _hear_from_Logitech_ why they decided to design this
product without the snooze.  This is clearly a fatal and fundamental
design flaw.  I am sure all the Logitech folks, especially from product
design and marketing, will rationalize to themselves and others about
the reasons for the choices, and defend the steps that took them to
where we are today.  Simply put, somebody dropped the ball big time! 
This is inexcusable, and I believe that Logitech should stop advertising
and promoting the SB Radio as a viable alternative to a bedside alarm.

I for one am canceling my order until version 2 of this product is
released.  Maybe next time the wunderkinds in product design will get
the consumer input before beta or product release!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Does this new model have a auto-sleep button?

2009-09-30 Thread Howard Passman

Snooze buttons are for sissies:-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] "Queen: Absolute Greatest" 'app' kicks butt

2009-09-30 Thread Kibo

bluegaspode;463062 Wrote: 
> I tried with controller, I can see the lyrics and pictures.
> Commentary and actual tracks don't play it just says 'file not found'.
> 
> So maybe they 'fixed' it in the meantime that it will only play on
> radio. ?

Mine was doing the same thing until I switched to mysqueezebox.com
under Networking.  Give that a shot.


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