[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Chainring Clearance
I noticed the same thing on my Atlantis. One thing to note. I was reading an old Rivendell Reader and came upon Grant's 12 bike tips (or something like that). One tip was - never grease tapered crank spindles. I thought about it for a minute and felt a little foolish. I thought about how the two pieces are machined for a perfect fit. The metals involved are fairly soft and the crank bolt is sturdy. Sturdy enough to give it a LOT of torque. The grease provides too much friction and aluminum begins to deform. After a stuck seat post I grease every metal-to-metal contact on the bike. I noticed a burr on my square taper from the crank arm driven on a bit too far. So far it isn't a problem, but if I had done it for years I may have eventually shifted the chain rings too much. This can all be cured by replacing the axle and crank so it isn't the end of the world. -Jude On Dec 16, 12:11 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: It's pretty tight. But I figured, as long as there was _some_ clearance, it didn't matter to me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: insurance for bikes.
The simple answer is to read the actual policy that you have. It should be pretty clear about what it covers and does not cover. Policies can vary, so it would be hard to say what is covered without reading the fine print. It also pays to be picky about your insurer. I have Amica for auto, homeowner and umbrella; Amica is outstanding. Every claim is resolved promptly and fairly. I once claimed for a stolen snowboard, and they gave me MORE than what I expected because the current replacement value had increased since my initial purchase of the gear. There are great insurers out there, you just have to find them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: insurance for bikes.
Also, some home owner policies allow you to have itemized coverage for particularly valuable items; this is usually done for expensive jewelry, etc. Arranging itemized coverage may require documentation of the item's value. Perhaps you could do this for a bike if you are particularly concerned. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet
Thanks for everyones input on this. At the end of the day, I will probably try Grip Kings with the Power Grips. My LBS has both, so I can check them out locally, get their opinion, and go from there. Practicing emergency bailouts (and working on bike handling skills in general), trying my existing clipless shoes with MKS Touring pedals, trying a stiffer shoe with the MKS pedals are all excellent ideas, and I will give those options a shot to see what happens. On paper, though, the GK with PG setup seems to offer the ability to pull up on the pedal stroke, allows any manner of shoe to be worn while providing good support, reduces nerve/circulation/numbness issues, and allows for quick and easy dismounting. Basically the combination seems to provide the (perceived) advantages of clipless pedals, while eliminating the (also perceived) disadvantages. Again, thanks for the suggestions and info. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Chainring Clearance
Thanks to everyone who replied. I reinstalled my crankset yesterday and noticed the tight clearance, which looks exactly like Horace's. I guess it's always been that way. I had the crankset off while Phil Wood Co were rebuilding my PW bottom bracket. After being in the bike for three years, the drive side bearing finally failed. That's pretty good (the bike has seen a lot of use), and the rebuild (with return shipping) was just $41. One note: I think the failing bottom bracket may have been to blame for the inefficient feeling I was getting from my Sturmey Archer hub. The hub had felt OK spinning, but not good when I put pressure to the pedals (such as accelerating or climbing). My guess is that the bottom bracket was creating that feeling--on a quick test ride last night it felt entirely different. My dreams of doing brevets on the 8-speed Quickbeam may be coming back to life! --Eric www.wheelsnorth.org www.campyonly.com On Dec 15, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Horace wrote: It's pretty tight. But I figured, as long as there was _some_ clearance, it didn't matter to me. http://www.flickr.com/photos/7850...@n06/4189629392/ Horace. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Just wondering how much clearance other QBs have between the inner chainring and the chainstay on their stock bikes (first gen). --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Chainring Clearance
Good news! keep us posted. I like the IGH/QB thing. Waiting for updates. RS --- On Wed, 12/16/09, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: From: Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Chainring Clearance To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 6:51 AM Thanks to everyone who replied. I reinstalled my crankset yesterday and noticed the tight clearance, which looks exactly like Horace's. I guess it's always been that way. I had the crankset off while Phil Wood Co were rebuilding my PW bottom bracket. After being in the bike for three years, the drive side bearing finally failed. That's pretty good (the bike has seen a lot of use), and the rebuild (with return shipping) was just $41. One note: I think the failing bottom bracket may have been to blame for the inefficient feeling I was getting from my Sturmey Archer hub. The hub had felt OK spinning, but not good when I put pressure to the pedals (such as accelerating or climbing). My guess is that the bottom bracket was creating that feeling--on a quick test ride last night it felt entirely different. My dreams of doing brevets on the 8-speed Quickbeam may be coming back to life! --Ericwww.wheelsnorth.orgwww.campyonly.com On Dec 15, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Horace wrote: It's pretty tight. But I figured, as long as there was _some_ clearance, it didn't matter to me. http://www.flickr.com/photos/7850...@n06/4189629392/ Horace. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Just wondering how much clearance other QBs have between the inner chainring and the chainstay on their stock bikes (first gen). --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Steve Wimberg st...@stevewimberg.com wrote: On paper, though, the GK with PG setup seems to offer the ability to pull up on the pedal stroke, I thought it had been fairly well established that riders generally don't pull up. Even with clipless. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] stuff for sale
I've got a few things I don't really need. Prices include shipping. Reply offlist... Frost River Gunflint Trail saddlebag - used twice. It's just too big for my needs(my Carradice Cadet is plenty big). $175 NIB Shimano FC-M582 with bb. Never installed. 175mm 44-32-22 rings. $100 I'm also open to trades and reasonable offers - I'm looking for: 46cm Nitto Noodle Tubus Cargo or Nitto Big Back Rack 175mm XD or square taper Deore cranks Phil Wood 111 or 113 bb Brooks B17 or Pro VO 45mm SS fenders and much more... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet
I seem to recall reading that somewhere, too. I guess when the study was done, I wasn't in the test group, because I often pull up on the pedal when grinding up a hill. Steve On Dec 16, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Steve Wimberg st...@stevewimberg.com wrote: On paper, though, the GK with PG setup seems to offer the ability to pull up on the pedal stroke, I thought it had been fairly well established that riders generally don't pull up. Even with clipless. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Chainring Clearance
Interesting. I've got a recent (silver) QB and have a full 1 cm of clearance between the smallest (32t) chainring and the stay with the stock, 32t inside ring, BB and cranks. I wonder if RBW changed something to allow more clearance? BTW, I'm running a White Industries dual freewheel in the back. With the chain on the outside chainring and the outside freewheel cog, I've got what seems to be perfect chainline - ditto with the inside combo. Eric, I can definitely relate to the anxiety caused by realizing how close the clearance is. I changed out the worn-out middle chainring on my Bombadil for another that, apparently, had slightly taller teeth (same ring size, though - 34t). As I tightened the crank down I thought, wow! that's close. It was. The middle ring rubbed the chainstay! I switched out the BB for something a couple of mm longer and everything runs great. Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Steve Wimberg st...@stevewimberg.com wrote: I seem to recall reading that somewhere, too. http://www.rivbike.com/article/clothing/the_shoes_ruse -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: insurance for bikes.
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Corwin ernf...@gmail.com wrote: My experience with claims adjusters is much closer to Ken's. After a fire destroyed our house, we had a long fight with the adjusters about what they would pay. It eventually came down to what you replaced. If you did not replace something - they might agree on the price you claimed (all my data was checked against receipts and/or the web) - but they would counter that by depreciating the item so much that the original value was insignificant (sometimes we only got 10 cents on the dollar). If you replaced something, you usually got reimbursed for the full replacement price up to the policy limit. Homeowner's policies offer replacement or market value coverage; many people make the mistake of buying the cheaper (but not much cheaper) market value (= depreciated) coverage. If you buy replacement value, then you get replacement value even if your couch, bought in 1973, is now worth $5 and it costs $2,000 to replace it with something comparable. And, of course, there are good and bad companies, and of course too, the good companies tend to be more expensive. Hartford is an example of a good company. Example: my mother's roof was damaged by hail in circa 2004. We didn't realize it since it looked fine, In 2007 a roofer, called about something else, said, Whoops, you've got a damaged roof -- the little gritty things are no longer on the shingles. The grit is there apparently to protect the shingles from sun. The roof was perfectly leakproof still. Yet Hartford paid for the entire new roof less $500 deductible without a complaint.The roof was already 24 years old. You get what you pay for once again, One more anecdote: I had a bike and tools stolen. I itemized everything, but of course had no receipts. Hartford payed up full retail on everything and I ended up with a much nicer bike. I've sold and used Hartford and it's the best I know of for personal lines. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet
On Dec 16, 2009, at 8:36 AM, Steve Wimberg wrote: I seem to recall reading that somewhere, too. I guess when the study was done, I wasn't in the test group, because I often pull up on the pedal when grinding up a hill. They left me out, too! I can often pull my foot out of a clip-n-strap setup. Often when riding with slower folks, I'll try to ride by ONLY pulling up but not pushing down or ride with one leg, which pretty much requires pulling up if there's any sort of incline. However, Grant is probably right when he says during normal pedaling at normal cadences, nobody pulls UP on the backstroke, but it can certainly be done . Cheers, Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting
I've been through this nonsense. I bought a cheap front Tektro brake and stole the bolt from it. I put that on the rear, and then I drilled out the front fork to accept a recessed allen. I also tried that rear-on-front trick, and I don't recommend it. The brake wiggled itself loose after a few weeks, stripping the bolt in the process. Really and truly though, the easiest route is to get the VO nutted. It's the exact same brake, as handsome as you please, and won't leave you drilling out that classic bike of yours. wc. On Dec 15, 9:41 am, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Has anyone in this group had experience converting the Rivendell Silver brake to a nutted mounting? I've found one reference on a Google search for the 650B internet list group that indicated it was possible to swap out the center pivot bolt from a cheap Tektro 800 brake to modify the Tektro R556/Rivendell Silver for nutted mounting. By the way, I'm aware that Velo-Orange is presently selling the Tektro R538/R556 brakes in nutted mount versions, I'd like, however to modify a set of the Rivendell Silver brakes. This is intended for a conversion of my Schwinn Paramount P15 from a 27 wheel size to 700c. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting
Thanks, I'm inclined at this point, to take that path of least resistance and use the V-O nutted Tektro R556 brake set. I guess Rivendell (from a conversation that I recently had with one of their folks) has no plans to supply a nutted version of the Silver brake. This is due to the minimum order quantities that they're required to procure from Tektro. Too bad, I think a market would exist for the Silver in a nutted mount version. Jim On Dec 16, 9:57 am, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com wrote: I've been through this nonsense. I bought a cheap front Tektro brake and stole the bolt from it. I put that on the rear, and then I drilled out the front fork to accept a recessed allen. I also tried that rear-on-front trick, and I don't recommend it. The brake wiggled itself loose after a few weeks, stripping the bolt in the process. Really and truly though, the easiest route is to get the VO nutted. It's the exact same brake, as handsome as you please, and won't leave you drilling out that classic bike of yours. wc. On Dec 15, 9:41 am, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Has anyone in this group had experience converting the Rivendell Silver brake to a nutted mounting? I've found one reference on a Google search for the 650B internet list group that indicated it was possible to swap out the center pivot bolt from a cheap Tektro 800 brake to modify the Tektro R556/Rivendell Silver for nutted mounting. By the way, I'm aware that Velo-Orange is presently selling the Tektro R538/R556 brakes in nutted mount versions, I'd like, however to modify a set of the Rivendell Silver brakes. This is intended for a conversion of my Schwinn Paramount P15 from a 27 wheel size to 700c. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting
On Dec 15, 2009, at 5:00 PM, Jim Cloud wrote: I'm glad to find someone who has actually used the approach of replacing the center pivot bolt. I'd like to know how difficult it was to install the pivot bolt on the Tektro R556, did it require a considerable amount of effort to dismantle the brake assemby? Or is this a rather easy Sunday afternoon project? Did you experience any particular difficulties in the procedure? It's been a while since I did it. You only have to do one bolt swap, since the front brake can be bolted on the rear as-is. Just get a front R800 and swap it's bolt to a rear Silver. Like I said, it just takes a little trial and error to get everything snug, but not too snug. I think I needed a cone wrench and a very tiny allen wrench. I wish I'd taken photos as I did it. Not all that difficult, It might take an hour at most. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS:Tektro R556 long reach brakes and Tektro Rt 354ag brake levers
FS:Tektro R556 long reach brakes 55-73 mm reach and Tektro RTag354 brake levers linear pull.Overall in like new condition.$45.00 shipped.Thanks for looking! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting
On Dec 16, 9:35 am, rswat...@me.com rswat...@me.com wrote: A while back, I was told by someone at Riv, that they were going to order a few of the separate bolts, so folks could do their own conversions. I'm guessing that never happened? Well, if you;re going to pull the mounting stud why not just get a nice metric bolt the right length, perhaps in stainless, and use it? Shouldn't be too hard to source. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
I've been thinking of this for the Bleriot, can I add a factor to the
equation? Anyone w/ 50mm Berthouds or Honjos, Hetres, and sidepulls?
Gino, your Saluki has/had (very nice looking) Bruce Gordon brakes on
the flicker page.
Rick.
On Dec 16, 1:13 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
Well... Hetres just fit on my Protovelo. Its very tight under 50mm
Honjos. I'll post photos tomorrow -
I have more height than I thought I did - but the Honjos do come down
to give the tire a hug. I can see how 50mm Berthounds would work
better in that regard. I'd like to keep it to 50mm so I don't have to
do surgery at the chainstays. Because there isn't much clearance
(less than Gino's Saluki, for sure) on the seatstay bridge, I don't
think big honking fenders would work as well.
More tomorrow...
On Dec 15, 2:09 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote:
You guys are lucky the Rivs have such generous clearance. Last weekend
I had to shelve the Hetres on a 650B conversion ('84 58cm Sequoia) in
order to add fenders. The VO Zeppelins didn't fit (too wide for the
fork), but 45mm Honjos + Col de la Vies did. Fortunately it's still
pretty:http://www.flickr.com/photos/natan/4183280562/
But I do miss those ultra cushy 42s! :)
-nathan
On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't have experience with the Berthouds, but Hetre + Honjo works
just fine on the Saluki. I had 45mm Honjos on the Saluki, but
recently upped them to the 50mm.
-gino
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
I was reading over on the Rene Herse site that they like the Berthoud
stainless fenders with Hetres because they open wider than the
Honjos.
Anyone have any experience?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting
On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:21, Phil Brown philcyc...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 16, 9:35 am, rswat...@me.com rswat...@me.com wrote: A while back, I was told by someone at Riv, that they were going to order a few of the separate bolts, so folks could do their own conversions. I'm guessing that never happened? Well, if you;re going to pull the mounting stud why not just get a nice metric bolt the right length, perhaps in stainless, and use it? Shouldn't be too hard to source. Phil Brown It's a special bolt with a very thin head and two different sized threaded portions. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting
Actually, since the OP just wants a nutted Silver branded model, you could buy the Nutted set from VO and just swap out the caliper arm that has the logo. A little easier that swapping the wierd bolt and you'd still end up with a leftover Allen R556 set. Personally, I just use Sheldon's front on rear, rear on front trick (bolted just through the front of the crown) on most of my bikes and it works fine. Ryan On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:34, rswat...@me.com rswat...@me.com wrote: On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:21, Phil Brown philcyc...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 16, 9:35 am, rswat...@me.com rswat...@me.com wrote: A while back, I was told by someone at Riv, that they were going to order a few of the separate bolts, so folks could do their own conversions. I'm guessing that never happened? Well, if you;re going to pull the mounting stud why not just get a nice metric bolt the right length, perhaps in stainless, and use it? Shouldn't be too hard to source. Phil Brown It's a special bolt with a very thin head and two different sized threaded portions. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
My Bleriot has the 45mm Honjos + CDLV tires. Plenty of room with that setup,
but I haven't bothered to try sticking Hetres in there.
Bleriot (old setup, but with fender/tire combo described above):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/502655983/sizes/l/in/set-7215763542699/
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote:
I've been thinking of this for the Bleriot, can I add a factor to the
equation? Anyone w/ 50mm Berthouds or Honjos, Hetres, and sidepulls?
Gino, your Saluki has/had (very nice looking) Bruce Gordon brakes on
the flicker page.
Rick.
On Dec 16, 1:13 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
Well... Hetres just fit on my Protovelo. Its very tight under 50mm
Honjos. I'll post photos tomorrow -
I have more height than I thought I did - but the Honjos do come down
to give the tire a hug. I can see how 50mm Berthounds would work
better in that regard. I'd like to keep it to 50mm so I don't have to
do surgery at the chainstays. Because there isn't much clearance
(less than Gino's Saluki, for sure) on the seatstay bridge, I don't
think big honking fenders would work as well.
More tomorrow...
On Dec 15, 2:09 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote:
You guys are lucky the Rivs have such generous clearance. Last weekend
I had to shelve the Hetres on a 650B conversion ('84 58cm Sequoia) in
order to add fenders. The VO Zeppelins didn't fit (too wide for the
fork), but 45mm Honjos + Col de la Vies did. Fortunately it's still
pretty:http://www.flickr.com/photos/natan/4183280562/
But I do miss those ultra cushy 42s! :)
-nathan
On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't have experience with the Berthouds, but Hetre + Honjo works
just fine on the Saluki. I had 45mm Honjos on the Saluki, but
recently upped them to the 50mm.
-gino
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com
wrote:
I was reading over on the Rene Herse site that they like the
Berthoud
stainless fenders with Hetres because they open wider than the
Honjos.
Anyone have any experience?
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[RBW] Was: Anyone running Hetres w/ Berthouds? Now: Hetres Fit Protovelo!
Well, I've found out something I've wondered for a long time. Hetres
fit on my Protovelo. But its a tight fit under the 50mm Honjos!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157622888947795/
That, combined with the stickiness of the new rubber, may be the
reason why pebbles are making a racket in the fenders as I've ridden
it around this morning.
I could make this work. But I'm really thinking of the 50mm
Berthouds. The bike has a tight fit anyway -- larger fenders may
cause more fit problems...
Esteban
San Diego, Calif.
On Dec 15, 10:13 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
Well... Hetres just fit on my Protovelo. Its very tight under 50mm
Honjos. I'll post photos tomorrow -
I have more height than I thought I did - but the Honjos do come down
to give the tire a hug. I can see how 50mm Berthounds would work
better in that regard. I'd like to keep it to 50mm so I don't have to
do surgery at the chainstays. Because there isn't much clearance
(less than Gino's Saluki, for sure) on the seatstay bridge, I don't
think big honking fenders would work as well.
More tomorrow...
On Dec 15, 2:09 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote:
You guys are lucky the Rivs have such generous clearance. Last weekend
I had to shelve the Hetres on a 650B conversion ('84 58cm Sequoia) in
order to add fenders. The VO Zeppelins didn't fit (too wide for the
fork), but 45mm Honjos + Col de la Vies did. Fortunately it's still
pretty:http://www.flickr.com/photos/natan/4183280562/
But I do miss those ultra cushy 42s! :)
-nathan
On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't have experience with the Berthouds, but Hetre + Honjo works
just fine on the Saluki. I had 45mm Honjos on the Saluki, but
recently upped them to the 50mm.
-gino
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
I was reading over on the Rene Herse site that they like the Berthoud
stainless fenders with Hetres because they open wider than the
Honjos.
Anyone have any experience?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:12 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: On Dec 10, 5:01 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: I am debating whether to install fenders on my new Bombadil, which I still haven't had time to finish assembling, but should be done by Saturday at the latest, as all I have left is to install the shifters and fine tune the brakes. I have switched the knobby tires to Specialized El Capitan Control 2Bliss, 2.2 front and 2.0 rear, which now give good clearance. This is essentially a 56mm wide front knobby tire and a 51mm wide rear tire. I'd like to install fenders, which at this point would have to be Giles Berthoud stainless steel fenders in 700x60, but am wondering if there would be negative risks if I went mountain biking with the fenders. Someone told me that a rock or something else could get stuck between tire and fender with catastrophic consequences. I'm also planning to use Marathon Extreme tires when I'm riding it in the road primarily and only need easy dirt trail capability, and just discovered there is a Marathon Supreme version in 2.0 as well. Will the 1.6 Marathon Extremes (42mm wide) look odd or behave oddly with 60mm fenders? Let me know what you think about mountain biking and going off-road with fenders. René A lot of things would have to happen for a rock or other debris to cause the scenario you described. If those things did come together and you have a bike with steel fenders, you could wind up crashing - maybe even going over the handlebars. SKS breakaway fenders do not look nearly as good as Berthoud but would be more safe. Tires are personal choice. I would not want to use Extremes on a bike that is mostly on paved roads. I think the big Supremes or the more supple Big Apples would better suit you. Installing plastic fenders with break-away tabs seems in theory the right choice for offroading + fenders, but really it's worse when you think it through and compare a stick getting caught in a stay. On a plastic/break-away fender a stick can easily dislodge the break-away stay, which is annoying at best, and dangerous at worse if the stay in turn catches on something else. In addtion, the rear stays don't have a break-away feature, so a stick lodging in the fender can easily crumple/tear/mangle a plastic fender and take you down. Compare this to a alloy or steel fender that has stronger and more rigid stays. Any stick that is small enough to lodge/get caught in between the stays is much more likely break before the stay or fender deforms or fails. As for rocks getting caught/lodged in the fender, you just need to set it up correctly (regardless of fender type): make sure the gap at the entrance (bottom) of the fender is slightly smaller than the gap at the exit (top) of the fender. -- John Speare Spokane, WA USA http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Was: Anyone running Hetres w/ Berthouds? Now: Hetres Fit Protovelo!
The white Hetres look great on the Proto!
A
On Dec 16, 11:02 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, I've found out something I've wondered for a long time. Hetres
fit on my Protovelo. But its a tight fit under the 50mm Honjos!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157622888947795/
That, combined with the stickiness of the new rubber, may be the
reason why pebbles are making a racket in the fenders as I've ridden
it around this morning.
I could make this work. But I'm really thinking of the 50mm
Berthouds. The bike has a tight fit anyway -- larger fenders may
cause more fit problems...
Esteban
San Diego, Calif.
On Dec 15, 10:13 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
Well... Hetres just fit on my Protovelo. Its very tight under 50mm
Honjos. I'll post photos tomorrow -
I have more height than I thought I did - but the Honjos do come down
to give the tire a hug. I can see how 50mm Berthounds would work
better in that regard. I'd like to keep it to 50mm so I don't have to
do surgery at the chainstays. Because there isn't much clearance
(less than Gino's Saluki, for sure) on the seatstay bridge, I don't
think big honking fenders would work as well.
More tomorrow...
On Dec 15, 2:09 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote:
You guys are lucky the Rivs have such generous clearance. Last weekend
I had to shelve the Hetres on a 650B conversion ('84 58cm Sequoia) in
order to add fenders. The VO Zeppelins didn't fit (too wide for the
fork), but 45mm Honjos + Col de la Vies did. Fortunately it's still
pretty:http://www.flickr.com/photos/natan/4183280562/
But I do miss those ultra cushy 42s! :)
-nathan
On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't have experience with the Berthouds, but Hetre + Honjo works
just fine on the Saluki. I had 45mm Honjos on the Saluki, but
recently upped them to the 50mm.
-gino
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
I was reading over on the Rene Herse site that they like the Berthoud
stainless fenders with Hetres because they open wider than the
Honjos.
Anyone have any experience?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting
And if you're in the bay area, Box Dog Bikes in SF sells these nutted brakes at a better price than VO does ($20 cheaper IIRC). -nathan On Dec 16, 2009, at 8:57 AM, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com wrote: I've been through this nonsense. I bought a cheap front Tektro brake and stole the bolt from it. I put that on the rear, and then I drilled out the front fork to accept a recessed allen. I also tried that rear-on-front trick, and I don't recommend it. The brake wiggled itself loose after a few weeks, stripping the bolt in the process. Really and truly though, the easiest route is to get the VO nutted. It's the exact same brake, as handsome as you please, and won't leave you drilling out that classic bike of yours. wc. On Dec 15, 9:41 am, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Has anyone in this group had experience converting the Rivendell Silver brake to a nutted mounting? I've found one reference on a Google search for the 650B internet list group that indicated it was possible to swap out the center pivot bolt from a cheap Tektro 800 brake to modify the Tektro R556/Rivendell Silver for nutted mounting. By the way, I'm aware that Velo-Orange is presently selling the Tektro R538/R556 brakes in nutted mount versions, I'd like, however to modify a set of the Rivendell Silver brakes. This is intended for a conversion of my Schwinn Paramount P15 from a 27 wheel size to 700c. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting
I was just looking at the website for Box Dog Bikes. It was interesting that they stock Gillette Berthoud (I think that must be Gilles Berthoud's evil twin). Jim On Dec 16, 12:57 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: And if you're in the bay area, Box Dog Bikes in SF sells these nutted brakes at a better price than VO does ($20 cheaper IIRC). -nathan On Dec 16, 2009, at 8:57 AM, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com wrote: I've been through this nonsense. I bought a cheap front Tektro brake and stole the bolt from it. I put that on the rear, and then I drilled out the front fork to accept a recessed allen. I also tried that rear-on-front trick, and I don't recommend it. The brake wiggled itself loose after a few weeks, stripping the bolt in the process. Really and truly though, the easiest route is to get the VO nutted. It's the exact same brake, as handsome as you please, and won't leave you drilling out that classic bike of yours. wc. On Dec 15, 9:41 am, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Has anyone in this group had experience converting the Rivendell Silver brake to a nutted mounting? I've found one reference on a Google search for the 650B internet list group that indicated it was possible to swap out the center pivot bolt from a cheap Tektro 800 brake to modify the Tektro R556/Rivendell Silver for nutted mounting. By the way, I'm aware that Velo-Orange is presently selling the Tektro R538/R556 brakes in nutted mount versions, I'd like, however to modify a set of the Rivendell Silver brakes. This is intended for a conversion of my Schwinn Paramount P15 from a 27 wheel size to 700c. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting
On Dec 16, 2009, at 12:52, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: I believe that the Rivendell Silver model of the Tektro R556 is finished to a higher quality than the standard model, they also include the extras of KoolStop brake pads. I own two pair of Silver Brakes and several R556 sets and can report that they're identical in finish except for the logos. (not counting the black version of the R556) The Silvers do ship with better pads, as you mentioned. The Silver brakes actually have R556 stamped on the back. Regardless of model, they're the best brakes I've ever used other than the MAFAC Raids. The Tektro R800A brakes are a lower quality finish but work just as well otherwise. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS Items UPDATED X 2
Still available are the Albotross Bars, 12cm Nitto Stem and a really great sturdy do-all wheel set. Thanks everyone! Dave Fort Collins, CO - Original Message - From: nawr...@comcast.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 3:33:50 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [RBW] FS Items UPDATED Thanks everyone! Update below. Dave Fort Collins, CO - Original Message - From: nawr...@comcast.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 5:10:50 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: [RBW] FS Items Hi All, Some clarifications and price adjustments. I pay shipping. Paypal preffered. Thanks, Dave Fort Collins, CO - Original Message - From: nawr...@comcast.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:43:52 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: [RBW] FS Items Hi All, Making some room, so I can get some other bike stuff... Paypal preffered or postal money order, I pay shipping to lower 48. Please reply off list. Brooks B-67 $95 now $85 -SOLD Package of: Albatross Bars the wide ones Heat treated 25.4 clamp $55 52cm wide cro-mo now $45 Nitto 12cm Technomic Deluxe Stem $35 25.4 clamp now $30 Paul Thumbies with Dura Ace shifter levers $55 now $50 -SOLD MKS Brake Levers $25 these are dai-compe levers now $20 Would like to sell all together but will consider parts. Nitto Technomic 9cm non deluxe long quill 25.4 $35 now $30 -SOLD Nitto Periscopa new in package never used or inserted $35 now $30 -SOLD Marks Rack new in package never used or opened $90 now $85 -SOLD Sackville Saddlesack first generation very lightly used $95 now $90 -SOLD Musa Butternut Pants size XL used lots of life left $25 now $20 -SOLD Wheel Set: Phil Wood rear 36h 7 speed freewheel Sunrace 11-28, bought from Riv, Rich built, 500 miles 135 rear spacing Suntour XC9000 front 32h standard 100 spacing Skewers included Mavic MA3 rims, straight and true, great shape $320 now $295 pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/d_nawrocki/sets/72157622851523397/ Thanks, Dave Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: parts for sale: Xtracycle, nitto, etc.
Shimano bar ends and Noodle sold. On Dec 15, 10:14 pm, colin p. cummings colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote: The shimano bar ends are 9 speed. The Xtracycle is for 26 wheels, though I run 650b on it now. Includes only the extension, no bags or other accessories. On Dec 15, 7:23 pm, colin p. cummings colinthehip...@gmail.com wrote: Must clear stuff out... Xtracycle Free Radical: $140 plus shipping (no accessories included, pics/info available) Nitto tech stem 8cm extension: $35 shipped Nitto Noodle 44cm: $40 shipped Shimano bar ends (friction/index): $40 shipped Please contact me off list. Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 12:15 -0800, Jim Cloud wrote: I was just looking at the website for Box Dog Bikes. It was interesting that they stock Gillette Berthoud (I think that must be Gilles Berthoud's evil twin). Gilles' smarter brother, the one sharp as a razor. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Was: Anyone running Hetres w/ Berthouds? Now: Hetres Fit Protovelo!
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 11:02 -0800, Esteban wrote: That, combined with the stickiness of the new rubber, may be the reason why pebbles are making a racket in the fenders as I've ridden it around this morning. I vote for stickiness of the new rubber. I had the same thing the first day I put a set of new Paselas on my Velo Orange. It lasted one day. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Yuba cargo bike pics
Yes, the xtracycle accessories are wonderful. But Yuba is working on it and I can say having had an xtracycle that the Yuba is in a whole different league. There is no frame flex at all. With the xtracycle I'd have to be careful about what I put on it and how fast I took bump, etc. The Yuba has no flex and I've taken speedbumbs with 300 lbs. with narry a shimmy. The next thing for it is the Down Low Glow. On Dec 15, 9:38 pm, Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote: Nice, love an orange bike :^). The redesigned Yuba is pretty impressive, something like 15lbs. lighter than the original and better equipped. I wish it was (more) compatible with Xtracycle stuff... Doug On Tuesday, December 15, 2009, Kip Otteson kip.otte...@gmail.com wrote: This post is only for those who get excited by using bikes as trucks or SUVs. I love this bike. The Yuba Mundo is a wonderful machine for anyone with a grand laying around. The Riv connection are the John's Irish Straps holding stuff down. (I love those things.) http://www.flickr.com/photos/39159...@n08/sets/72157623004914628/ In Thailand, where people carry ridiculous loads on all sorts of contraptions, we got our share of stares on the main road. My son and I dropped off the gate at the organic garden we are building at our school. Not a professional photographer or writer, just a dad who digs doing bike stuff with his son, even if it's not on our Rivendells. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
Hey Rick,
Sorry, no experience with sidepulls, but I run Hetres on my Bleriot
with Paul Centerpull brakes. Gobs of clearance for fenders. Right
now I have 26 x 50 SKS fenders (which are wy wider than 50mm, BTW)
on there.
-Jay
Denver, CO
On Dec 16, 1:31 pm, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote:
I've been thinking of this for the Bleriot, can I add a factor to the
equation? Anyone w/ 50mm Berthouds or Honjos, Hetres, and sidepulls?
Gino, your Saluki has/had (very nice looking) Bruce Gordon brakes on
the flicker page.
Rick.
On Dec 16, 1:13 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
Well... Hetres just fit on my Protovelo. Its very tight under 50mm
Honjos. I'll post photos tomorrow -
I have more height than I thought I did - but the Honjos do come down
to give the tire a hug. I can see how 50mm Berthounds would work
better in that regard. I'd like to keep it to 50mm so I don't have to
do surgery at the chainstays. Because there isn't much clearance
(less than Gino's Saluki, for sure) on the seatstay bridge, I don't
think big honking fenders would work as well.
More tomorrow...
On Dec 15, 2:09 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote:
You guys are lucky the Rivs have such generous clearance. Last weekend
I had to shelve the Hetres on a 650B conversion ('84 58cm Sequoia) in
order to add fenders. The VO Zeppelins didn't fit (too wide for the
fork), but 45mm Honjos + Col de la Vies did. Fortunately it's still
pretty:http://www.flickr.com/photos/natan/4183280562/
But I do miss those ultra cushy 42s! :)
-nathan
On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't have experience with the Berthouds, but Hetre + Honjo works
just fine on the Saluki. I had 45mm Honjos on the Saluki, but
recently upped them to the 50mm.
-gino
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
I was reading over on the Rene Herse site that they like the Berthoud
stainless fenders with Hetres because they open wider than the
Honjos.
Anyone have any experience?
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[RBW] Re: So Cal Riv ride: Chino Hills SP
Its been sunny and beautiful here in the OC, and we are ready to roll on the freshly dried out trails on nearly-monthly Southern California Rivendell Bicycle Appreciation Society. (thats quite a mouthful) As previously posted, the ride has been an ongoing discussion here http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157622685585543 and for those of us who just want to get the the real content, the route is here http://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/ca/fullerton%2c%20brea%2c%20yorba%20linda/623125713059759749 and maybe an extra few miles here http://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/ca/chino%20hills/974126024455588668 The plan is to meet up between 9 and 10 in Brea, on the corner of Brea Blvd and Imperial Hwy and start the ride around 10. I'm looking forward to seeing you there. -Andy On Dec 6, 6:09 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: This ride was posted a few weeks back while in its formative stage. Now we're on for next Sunday, December 13. Meet at the Starbucks at the Brea Gateway Mall at S. Brea Blvd and Imperial Hwy (NOT the Brea Mall, a bit east of there). Bike'n'bag ogle, outrageous lies and coffee in the 9ish range, ride at 10 AM. Andy worked out the route and it's posted in a link on the flickr site: http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_soc... Originally about 30 miles, it got expanded due to popular interest. Andy assures me that the expanded route will consume all available daylight, energy and available resources. Very few useless (i.e., flat boring) miles and mostly high quality stuff. Riv content: 2 of 3 Atlantis' we know of on OC will be attending. No RSVP; show'n'go. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] The almost ineffable pleasure of riding a bike with a near-perfect fit.
I just got back from an 18 mile errand ride that combined fast cruising (and some slow cruising) on a flat bike path through our bosque nature preserve with some steep and winding up- and downhills on bike-laned, fast, 2-lane 45 mph boulevards; this to pick up my mother's medical records before the dr's office closed. I rode the '03 Curt Custom 559-wheeled road, Dave-Porter-converted to fixed gear and set up with Honjos, Fly and, most recently -- a change back from the track pedals with clips -- Look Keos. 69 fixed gear. Much standing on the climbs for which, for a change, I had ample time to warm up thanks to the bike path detour. The Curt had been feeling awkward compared to the almost identical (in frame geometry) Joe gofast fixie, but through perservering messing with the Flite saddle -- shoving it back as far as it would go while adjusting the tilt just a bit more upward -- I've managed to get it ***just*** where it belongs, that sweet spot where butt, back, shoulders, arms, legs, feet and hands all seem to fall naturally in the exactly right place for one's preferred pedalling style. Butt back -- that's the key, IMO. Waay back (I wish I had taken Grant's advice and had the Curt built with a 72 seat; with the 73 and a circa 2004 Dura Ace post with considerable setback, I literally use a rubber mallet to get it back as far as I can. But the DA post ***just*** allows enough rearward position and tile to make it perfect. I should have saddle and post brazed into permanent position. The (1973 Grand Record) Motobecane had been feeling awkward too -- I had played with the idea of raising the bar say 2 to level with the Flite and swapping out the 8 (or so) stem for a 10. But instead I swapped out the cheap no-name modern short 'n' shallows for a real God's Own 44 cm Nitto 185 -- same stem, 2 below saddle -- and my goodness! What a change. And I took the mallet and whacked the saddle back on the old and very nice Simplex post and got it just that essential few mm back further, and now I swear that the Motobecane feels just as good as the Rivs -- a first for a non-Riv bike. Again, butt way back, torso cantilevered over the bars, hands lightly on the hoods or in the hooks, shoving forward on the (in this case, since it's a grocery hauler) 66 fixed gear. I have once again to thank Grant for converting me from the foolish saddle way high and way forward saddle position to that I've described; truly, the feeling of fit between body and bike is one of the great pleasures of cycling, IMO. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: So Cal Riv ride: Chino Hills SP
I think I can go! Hopefully we can build in some coffee/start and beer/food/end into the trip, as usual. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Dec 16, 3:30 pm, Andy.M andy.e.m...@gmail.com wrote: Its been sunny and beautiful here in the OC, and we are ready to roll on the freshly dried out trails on nearly-monthly Southern California Rivendell Bicycle Appreciation Society. (thats quite a mouthful) As previously posted, the ride has been an ongoing discussion herehttp://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_soc... and for those of us who just want to get the the real content, the route is herehttp://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/ca/fullerton%2c%20brea%2c%20yorba%2... and maybe an extra few miles herehttp://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/ca/chino%20hills/974126024455588668 The plan is to meet up between 9 and 10 in Brea, on the corner of Brea Blvd and Imperial Hwy and start the ride around 10. I'm looking forward to seeing you there. -Andy On Dec 6, 6:09 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: This ride was posted a few weeks back while in its formative stage. Now we're on for next Sunday, December 13. Meet at the Starbucks at the Brea Gateway Mall at S. Brea Blvd and Imperial Hwy (NOT the Brea Mall, a bit east of there). Bike'n'bag ogle, outrageous lies and coffee in the 9ish range, ride at 10 AM. Andy worked out the route and it's posted in a link on the flickr site: http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_soc... Originally about 30 miles, it got expanded due to popular interest. Andy assures me that the expanded route will consume all available daylight, energy and available resources. Very few useless (i.e., flat boring) miles and mostly high quality stuff. Riv content: 2 of 3 Atlantis' we know of on OC will be attending. No RSVP; show'n'go. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet
I am size 15, wear very flexible sneakers, and use grip kings without issue. Much better than my old setup (sidis and eggbeaters, which did occasionally create numbness above 70-80miles). erik -- berkeley, ca bikenoir.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: So Cal Riv ride: Chino Hills SP
I think both are part (mandatory) of the plan!!! On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I think I can go! Hopefully we can build in some coffee/start and beer/food/end into the trip, as usual. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Dec 16, 3:30 pm, Andy.M andy.e.m...@gmail.com wrote: Its been sunny and beautiful here in the OC, and we are ready to roll on the freshly dried out trails on nearly-monthly Southern California Rivendell Bicycle Appreciation Society. (thats quite a mouthful) As previously posted, the ride has been an ongoing discussion herehttp:// www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_soc... and for those of us who just want to get the the real content, the route is herehttp:// www.mapmyride.com/route/us/ca/fullerton%2c%20brea%2c%20yorba%2... and maybe an extra few miles herehttp:// www.mapmyride.com/route/us/ca/chino%20hills/974126024455588668 The plan is to meet up between 9 and 10 in Brea, on the corner of Brea Blvd and Imperial Hwy and start the ride around 10. I'm looking forward to seeing you there. -Andy On Dec 6, 6:09 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: This ride was posted a few weeks back while in its formative stage. Now we're on for next Sunday, December 13. Meet at the Starbucks at the Brea Gateway Mall at S. Brea Blvd and Imperial Hwy (NOT the Brea Mall, a bit east of there). Bike'n'bag ogle, outrageous lies and coffee in the 9ish range, ride at 10 AM. Andy worked out the route and it's posted in a link on the flickr site: http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_soc. .. Originally about 30 miles, it got expanded due to popular interest. Andy assures me that the expanded route will consume all available daylight, energy and available resources. Very few useless (i.e., flat boring) miles and mostly high quality stuff. Riv content: 2 of 3 Atlantis' we know of on OC will be attending. No RSVP; show'n'go. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: So Cal Riv ride: Chino Hills SP
I don't spend much time in SD, so I'm not exactly sure on what the protocol is down there; but here in the OC there's a coffee joint on every corner! And there happen to be some fine beer houses within a few hundred yards of where we are going to be ;) -Andy On Dec 16, 5:19 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I think I can go! Hopefully we can build in some coffee/start and beer/food/end into the trip, as usual. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Dec 16, 3:30 pm, Andy.M andy.e.m...@gmail.com wrote: Its been sunny and beautiful here in the OC, and we are ready to roll on the freshly dried out trails on nearly-monthly Southern California Rivendell Bicycle Appreciation Society. (thats quite a mouthful) As previously posted, the ride has been an ongoing discussion herehttp://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_soc... and for those of us who just want to get the the real content, the route is herehttp://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/ca/fullerton%2c%20brea%2c%20yorba%2... and maybe an extra few miles herehttp://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/ca/chino%20hills/974126024455588668 The plan is to meet up between 9 and 10 in Brea, on the corner of Brea Blvd and Imperial Hwy and start the ride around 10. I'm looking forward to seeing you there. -Andy On Dec 6, 6:09 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: This ride was posted a few weeks back while in its formative stage. Now we're on for next Sunday, December 13. Meet at the Starbucks at the Brea Gateway Mall at S. Brea Blvd and Imperial Hwy (NOT the Brea Mall, a bit east of there). Bike'n'bag ogle, outrageous lies and coffee in the 9ish range, ride at 10 AM. Andy worked out the route and it's posted in a link on the flickr site: http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_soc... Originally about 30 miles, it got expanded due to popular interest. Andy assures me that the expanded route will consume all available daylight, energy and available resources. Very few useless (i.e., flat boring) miles and mostly high quality stuff. Riv content: 2 of 3 Atlantis' we know of on OC will be attending. No RSVP; show'n'go. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS 59cm A. Homer Hilsen
Complete bike, minus saddle. Stock/standard blue color. I am second owner and have had since early 2008. First owner told me it is Waterford-built and from an early batch of Hilsens. You'll notice that the cutout detail on the sides of the fork crown are more like that of the Rambouillet rather than the current fancy cutouts on later AHHs. Several photos on my Flickr photostream -- ftrentmeyer. Current set-up is this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10076...@n03/3363662307/ Tires currently mounted are Panaracer Pasela TG kevlar bead 32mm. I'll include the Schwalbe Marathon XR 35s pictured. Both sets have lots of life left in them, especially the Schwalbes. Also will come with the Nitto R14 Top Rack (now $105 new), and the Acorn medium saddlebag (now $85 new). It's in very good shape -- no major dings or gouges -- no dents. No chain suck damage or anything like that. But it does have the typical handful of minor scratches and nicks from normal usage. Highlights of the build: Rich-built, Phil-hubbed 36-spoke wheels bought from RBW for $700. (Velocity Synergy rims) Nitto Crystal Fellow seatpost Nitto Noodle 46 h-bars Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem, 8cm extension Cane Creek brake levers Silver bar-end shifters Grip King pedals Shimano Ultegra FD Shimano 105 RD Shimano 105 triple road crankset (48-36-24 -- outer two chainrings are Sugino) Asking $2700, and that includes shipping in CONUSA. I take PayPal. Inquiries off-list, please. Forrest Meyer (Iowa City) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: So Cal Riv ride: Chino Hills SP
Is there anything closer? :) Sounds like fun! On Dec 16, 7:21 pm, Andy.M andy.e.m...@gmail.com wrote: I don't spend much time in SD, so I'm not exactly sure on what the protocol is down there; but here in the OC there's a coffee joint on every corner! And there happen to be some fine beer houses within a few hundred yards of where we are going to be ;) -Andy On Dec 16, 5:19 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I think I can go! Hopefully we can build in some coffee/start and beer/food/end into the trip, as usual. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Dec 16, 3:30 pm, Andy.M andy.e.m...@gmail.com wrote: Its been sunny and beautiful here in the OC, and we are ready to roll on the freshly dried out trails on nearly-monthly Southern California Rivendell Bicycle Appreciation Society. (thats quite a mouthful) As previously posted, the ride has been an ongoing discussion herehttp://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_soc... and for those of us who just want to get the the real content, the route is herehttp://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/ca/fullerton%2c%20brea%2c%20yorba%2... and maybe an extra few miles herehttp://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/ca/chino%20hills/974126024455588668 The plan is to meet up between 9 and 10 in Brea, on the corner of Brea Blvd and Imperial Hwy and start the ride around 10. I'm looking forward to seeing you there. -Andy On Dec 6, 6:09 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: This ride was posted a few weeks back while in its formative stage. Now we're on for next Sunday, December 13. Meet at the Starbucks at the Brea Gateway Mall at S. Brea Blvd and Imperial Hwy (NOT the Brea Mall, a bit east of there). Bike'n'bag ogle, outrageous lies and coffee in the 9ish range, ride at 10 AM. Andy worked out the route and it's posted in a link on the flickr site: http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_soc... Originally about 30 miles, it got expanded due to popular interest. Andy assures me that the expanded route will consume all available daylight, energy and available resources. Very few useless (i.e., flat boring) miles and mostly high quality stuff. Riv content: 2 of 3 Atlantis' we know of on OC will be attending. No RSVP; show'n'go. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
Hi John, What you say makes a lot of sense. Have you ridden off-road (mountain biked) with steel fenders? Or is this just your logical analysis of the question I posed? While logical analysis make sense (usually), nothing beats actual experience. Not that I'm challenging you or anything, I'm just curious since your logic pretty much goes against what a lot of people have advised in response to my question. It does make a lot of sense, but all responses seem to be logical as well... :-D René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
I hit the trails regularly on my Bleriot and an old RockCombo. Both are shod with Berthouds...the Bleriot doesn't have a ton of clearance so I keep to pretty clear trails. The RockCombo has oversized 700c fenders and long mudflaps over 26 wheels so I have quite a bit of clearance...it's my mudder. I don't really get into any hardcore technical stuff but I do like bombing down single track and ride quite a bit on the local rail/gravel trails. I've had lots of leaves get stuck under the fender but I can really only recall one time where a stick got lodged in the stay...it broke. I know it's a risk but it's a risk everytime you walk out the door. A couple pics of my two steeds... http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502...@n00/2697080231/in/set-72157606340462594/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502...@n00/2697084011/in/set-72157606340462594/ On Dec 16, 9:20 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, What you say makes a lot of sense. Have you ridden off-road (mountain biked) with steel fenders? Or is this just your logical analysis of the question I posed? While logical analysis make sense (usually), nothing beats actual experience. Not that I'm challenging you or anything, I'm just curious since your logic pretty much goes against what a lot of people have advised in response to my question. It does make a lot of sense, but all responses seem to be logical as well... :-D René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
