[RBW] FS: Parting out is such sweet sorrow - Cinelli bars and stem
My friend is just about done selling off the parts bin in the garage. He asked if the RBW group would like a shot before he tries his luck on ebay. He recently parted out a Specialized Sequoia (lugged steel) from the 80s and wants to sell the Cinelli bars and stem as a set. He is also very tired of cleaning tape residue, etc., but assures me these are in very nice condition, despite the munge. Cinelli mod 66-40 handlebar, 1981 – so there’s no cable grooves. Campione Del Mundo model. Near flawless. Cinelli 1A stem. 10cm. Near flawless. http://www.flickr.com/photos/redding_dave/sets/72157623855656095/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Riv May 1 Riv Ride; Photos
New to this list, but I see some people from other lists here too. (Kog and LHT) Great ride report. I was down at the Mt. Laguna Bicycle Classic a couple of weeks ago and it was my first time in that area. You SD people are very lucky. That looks like a great area to explore. I'll be back there soon. Errin On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:12 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: The California Visitor's Bureau should send us all a small stipend. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 5:31 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Will second that. Having spent a week there last year, it was a great town for biking. But I've never been to Portland or ridden in Northern California, so my observations are limited. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On May 2, 6:51�pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: My pleasure. If you have the flexibility on where to locate, I think San Diego should be high on your list. �Spend some time down there checking it out. �Our post ride conversation centered around what a great cycling city SD is. �Esteban can give you more information on specifics (whole new topic!) but the only downside would be hills and lack of water. �I think that's going to bite 'em (and all SoCal) in the butt sometime soon. But yeah, come on down and see the sights! � If you haven't yet, go through the SoCal rides and read/see what's available down here. �EVERY one of these rides has been an eye-opener for me. �I've enjoyed seeing the new areas and meeting new folks so much. �They're just great! http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_soc... -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Test rode the 48cm Hunq'a
Hello all, I stopped by to visit Rivendell on Thursday while passing through on my San Fran vacation. I was lucky enough to take the 48cm gray and red Hunqapillar for a spin around the parking lot. I'm 5'4 and I'd say my 76cm PBH (barefoot) was about as low as I'd want to be on that bike. Any smaller and I'd probably have choose the Atlantis. The bullmoose bars had a great, comfortable, heads-up feel. I'll have to think hard about whether to replace my techno hardtail with a Hunq'a... Is anyone planning to use a Hunqapillar for touring? I'm interested to hear about your setup and plans. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Opinion on Potential Sale of 1985 Trek 720
Lots of good advice here, as I expected, thank you. (Seth, I knew you were winking when you asked about the size.) Joel, I ditched that Maillard freewheel long ago. Not everything was great about this bike in its out-of-the-box configuration. I willl keep the 720 and pass it down to my children, who are avid cyclists. I will store the 720, Xtracycle, and a several others--will probably select my other (daily driver) Trek, and my Surly LHT to take with. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I Gotta Think Everyone Took a Ride Today
Took two, actually. Spent part of the morning on the Sam Hillborne. To follow up testing my new rear wheel (details in another post). Then went out in the afternoon on my Surly LHT. The afternoon ride was to see how bad the wind actually was. Steadily blowing around 20 with gusts to about 30. Was a good challenge. Still, no matter what, I'm the slowest thing on the road. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On May 2, 11:51�pm, Harry hhu...@gmail.com wrote: After work today I got out for a short out and back. Concord to W.C. It was a grand day for it. Glad to hear the Roadeo is treating you right Anne. Harry On May 2, 6:56�pm, Ray r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: The Bay Area weather was stellar today, and I'm guessing lots of NorCal Rivendell folks were out in it. �Where'd you folks ride? I did almost catch up with one Riv sort out near China Beach riding what looked to be an orange Sam, but other than him, no other Riv sightings. �My ride was from Novato (had to shoot up there this morning with my wife) back home to San Francisco via China Beach State Park. �43 miles and change. �I have been riding my new Bleriot for a couple of weeks, and came pretty close to tossing it in the back of the truck before we left. �Then, at the last moment, I picked up the Canti-Rom, pumped her up, and rode that for the day. �It sure is fun getting back on a snappy bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] New Wheel for the Hillborne
Finally got around to doing a couple of things - getting a Phil Wood hub and building my own wheel. Jim Thill at Hiawatha spent a good chunk of an evening trying to drill into my thick skull how to properly build a wheel. Might have been slightly less dim than most days, as the instruction took, and now have a Phil freewheel hub laced to a Salsa Delgado rim. Even more amazingly the wheel has stayed good for about 60 miles of riding over the weekend. Including a curb bash taken at a lot higher speed than planned. About a week earlier, swapped the crankset out for a Sugino XD found secondhand. More than a bit scuffed up, but that crank just looks so right on this bike. One last observation - the Silver shifters do seem to work alot better with a seven speed rear than an eight. Was pretty sure that would be the case, but was nice to have it confirmed. A couple of photos here - http://tinyurl.com/23f4do3 Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Test rode the 48cm Hunq'a
You're 5'4 and felt that the 48 was too small? By Grants description you should buy down and since I usually run a 54/53 size a 48 Hunq would be my size (I assume). But I am 5'9. I am sure the 54 would be too tall. This may be swaying me towards the SH. On May 2, 6:06 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I stopped by to visit Rivendell on Thursday while passing through on my San Fran vacation. I was lucky enough to take the 48cm gray and red Hunqapillar for a spin around the parking lot. I'm 5'4 and I'd say my 76cm PBH (barefoot) was about as low as I'd want to be on that bike. Any smaller and I'd probably have choose the Atlantis. The bullmoose bars had a great, comfortable, heads-up feel. I'll have to think hard about whether to replace my techno hardtail with a Hunq'a... Is anyone planning to use a Hunqapillar for touring? I'm interested to hear about your setup and plans. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv TOSRV Riders
George, I don't think so. What is CICS? Will you be riding TOSRV this year? Steve Hemmelgarn From: George Schick bhim...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 1:29:52 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv TOSRV Riders Is this by any chance the same Steve Hemmelgarn who is a late 1980's CICS graduate? On Apr 30, 6:27 am, Steve Hemmelgarn trekcommu...@yahoo.com wrote: Dick, Good message and good idea! It would be nice to see a few more Riv's. Steve From: Dick Denning denn...@bright.net To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 6:24:50 AM Subject: [RBW] Riv TOSRV Riders If you live at all close to Ohio, and have been riding for awhile, you're probably familiar with the Tour Of the Scioto River Valley (TOSRV), http://www.tosrv.org. TOSRV starts and finishes in Columbus, Oh., and is always on Mothers Day weekend. This year is the 49th TOSRV and will be held next weekend, the weekend of May 8th 9th. I usually ride with a group of riding buddies, and we have a few Rivendells in the mix. Usually a couple of Rambouillets, a Romulus, sometimes a Rivendell or Bleriot, etc. This year I know of one Sam Hillborne that'll be joining us as well. I often see a couple of other Ramb's (John) and an AHH (Mark?) too. Just wanted to let any other RBW owners/fans know they're more than welcome to join us on our ride to and from Portsmouth, Oh. We leave from the SW corner of the Statehouse on Saturday morning. We aim to gather there about 7:15AM on Saturday and try to leave by 7:30, though we're often running 15 minutes late. A quick recreational pace gets us to Portsmouth before 5PM. Feel free to join us. Look for a couple of blue Rambouillets and you'll know you've found us. Dick Denning -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Opinion on Potential Sale of 1985 Trek 720
It sounds like you may value the bike in a way that is hard to put a dollar value on. $2500 sounds extremely high, even for collectible condition 720 frame with nice parts. Maybe that's a sign that you really don't want to sell the 720. I'd say keep a daily rider that you can ride/lock-up without worry and keep the Trek 720 too. Get rid of the other 8. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: I Gotta Think Everyone Took a Ride Today
I¹ve been riding every day this past week with my 4-year-olds, who just got pedals on their bikes and now don¹t want to do anything else. Over two miles yesterday! -- Jon ³Proud Papa² Grant, in San Diego-ish weather, in Austin, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Opinion on Potential Sale of 1985 Trek 720
Yeah that model Trek in original condition would sell anywhere from $500-$800 in my area. And that would probably be a long waiting period to find the right buyer. Most vintage buyers are looking for the great find at a low price to fix up rather than a high priced model. And then they would most likely want it original. You probably will get more of your money back by parting it out. On May 3, 7:51 am, stevep33 steve...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like you may value the bike in a way that is hard to put a dollar value on. $2500 sounds extremely high, even for collectible condition 720 frame with nice parts. Maybe that's a sign that you really don't want to sell the 720. I'd say keep a daily rider that you can ride/lock-up without worry and keep the Trek 720 too. Get rid of the other 8. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: I Gotta Think Everyone Took a Ride Today
Saturday, a very slow 5.2-miler, pavement and dirt, with Catie (rising nine) on her Electra Townie 3i (complaining after 4 miles that she was tired and her legs hurt; it was windy and cold), I on the Monocog. On Sunday -- even colder, high near 40, with a huge hailstorm in the afternoon -- 17 m rt to church, again on the Monocog. I made it up the steep 4/10 mile hill up the west mesa to Rio Rancho even on the ponderous Monocog on the return trip, but I did have a howling tailwind. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:59 AM, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote: I¹ve been riding every day this past week with my 4-year-olds, who just got pedals on their bikes and now don¹t want to do anything else. Over two miles yesterday! -- Jon ³Proud Papa² Grant, in San Diego-ish weather, in Austin, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS: Parting out is such sweet sorrow - Cinelli bars and stem
I guess posting a price might help, too... He'd like $65 for the pair, CONUS shipping included. On 5/2/2010 9:05 PM, Dave Faller wrote: My friend is just about done selling off the parts bin in the garage. He asked if the RBW group would like a shot before he tries his luck on ebay. He recently parted out a Specialized Sequoia (lugged steel) from the 80s and wants to sell the Cinelli bars and stem as a set. He is also very tired of cleaning tape residue, etc., but assures me these are in very nice condition, despite the munge. Cinelli mod 66-40 handlebar, 1981 – so there’s no cable grooves. Campione Del Mundo model. Near flawless. Cinelli 1A stem. 10cm. Near flawless. http://www.flickr.com/photos/redding_dave/sets/72157623855656095/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fwd: Brooks Bag Loop Retrofit - a set on Flickr
Nice implementation, the zip ties do give it a nice clean look. Do you have any issues keeping the pins (France) on your saddlebag? I had a couple on my little loafer mounted up front but they kept coming off due to road vibration. Wondering if you have any tips? On May 2, 4:34 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Thanks to everyone who posted ideas about adding bag loops to a Brooks saddle. I found a double snap clip at my local Ace Hardware, added a few zip ties, and http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623853970537/ Haven't road tested it yet, but I'm reasonably sure it won't fall off. --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SoCal Riv May 1 Riv Ride; Photos
Looks like it was a great ride! I'm bummed that I missed it, but Seattle was amazing! Anyone down for a repeat some upcoming weekend? -Andy On May 1, 7:59 pm, Dustin Sharp paleo.v...@gmail.com wrote: Seven turned out for today's SoCal Riv ride, riding everything from a Roadeo with Jack Browns, to a MTB singlespeed with 29x2.4 tires. 42 miles, 5600 feet of climbing, and about 80% of it on dirt. Temps in the high 60s. This was some of the best mixed-surface riding around. Paved road, dirt road, rough fireroad, and a little single track. Some pretty steep pitches, including one stretch of 21% grade dirt. Stats and map: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/31903053 Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769...@n04/sets/72157623847776549/ Cheers, Dustin Sharp San Diego, Calif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fwd: Brooks Bag Loop Retrofit - a set on Flickr
Haven't road tested it yet, but I'm reasonably sure it won't fall off. It looks nice and clean. If I were to do something like this, I might substitute bent sections of spokes for the zip-ties. Beth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] First ride
Nice write up anne. enjoy the bike. Jim D. Massachusetts --- On Sat, 5/1/10, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: From: Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com Subject: [RBW] First ride To: rbw-owners-bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 7:27 PM Today I picked up my little beauty, the green Roadeo my husband got me for my birthday. Naturally I didn't want to coop up the new arrival (or myself) in a car right away, so first we took a little jaunt up to the top of Mount Diablo, its ancestral homeland. What a perfect day! Not too hot, and plenty of orange poppies, purple lupine and yellow mustard remain from a beautiful flower year. The bike is splendid. Very, very comfortable; somehow, as with all Rivendells, the body position is exactly right. Gorgeous, with tan tape contrasting with the bright dark green paint. (I ordered a black Barley for it from Peter Jon White, but now I think a tan bag, or the green Barley, would look better. Oh well.) Wants to descend faster than I want to descend. Feels perfect when I'm out of the saddle. My friends that I ride with will be able to admire it from the rear. I still have to do some tweaking. Riv put on Jack Browns, which are fine tires but this bike, which is pretty much entirely for climbing on pavement, will get narrower tires to save weight, and the Jack Browns will go on some lesser bike. I rode today with toeclips because I didn't want to get used to clip-in pedals on a new bike on a longish ride, but Speedplay Frogs will go on it tonight or tomorrow. And the elderly saddlebag currently on it will be replaced by a spanking new, appropriately small Barley. But already it's great. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv TOSRV Riders
CICS is an inter-disciplinary graduate program at BSU. I knew that a fellow with your same last name graduated from it back in the late 80's and took a job in Northern Ohio, but he must not be related. Nope, I've never ridden the Scioto. I always wanted to back several decades ago when I lived in East-Central Indiana, but now I'm in the greater Chicago area and it's a wee bit too far for me to want to drive. On May 3, 6:24 am, Steve Hemmelgarn trekcommu...@yahoo.com wrote: George, I don't think so. What is CICS? Will you be riding TOSRV this year? Steve Hemmelgarn From: George Schick bhim...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 1:29:52 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv TOSRV Riders Is this by any chance the same Steve Hemmelgarn who is a late 1980's CICS graduate? On Apr 30, 6:27 am, Steve Hemmelgarn trekcommu...@yahoo.com wrote: Dick, Good message and good idea! It would be nice to see a few more Riv's. Steve From: Dick Denning denn...@bright.net To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 6:24:50 AM Subject: [RBW] Riv TOSRV Riders If you live at all close to Ohio, and have been riding for awhile, you're probably familiar with the Tour Of the Scioto River Valley (TOSRV), http://www.tosrv.org. TOSRV starts and finishes in Columbus, Oh., and is always on Mothers Day weekend. This year is the 49th TOSRV and will be held next weekend, the weekend of May 8th 9th. I usually ride with a group of riding buddies, and we have a few Rivendells in the mix. Usually a couple of Rambouillets, a Romulus, sometimes a Rivendell or Bleriot, etc. This year I know of one Sam Hillborne that'll be joining us as well. I often see a couple of other Ramb's (John) and an AHH (Mark?) too. Just wanted to let any other RBW owners/fans know they're more than welcome to join us on our ride to and from Portsmouth, Oh. We leave from the SW corner of the Statehouse on Saturday morning. We aim to gather there about 7:15AM on Saturday and try to leave by 7:30, though we're often running 15 minutes late. A quick recreational pace gets us to Portsmouth before 5PM. Feel free to join us. Look for a couple of blue Rambouillets and you'll know you've found us. Dick Denning -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Look, MKS, Wellgo pedals
1. MKS RX-1 Track pedals (Keirin approved!) with Soma double clips and Christophe or Avenir or somesuch leather straps, about $1K miles, a few scuffs but otherwise excellent. These are MKS's top of the line track pedals. $70 shipped OBO. 2. Wellgo track pedals, only a few hundred miles, no clips, very smooth, $25 shipped. These are a bit larger than the RX-1s and work better with soft soled shoes; I used them with Bass, Sperry, Timberland etc. slip ons and they worked well. 3. Look KEOs, red, mid-level model ($160 new), fewer than 1K miles, no cleats, $55 shipped OBO. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] ISO large saddle wedge
I need one that will hold a 12 long not-quite-minipump plus two huge 29er tubes and usual small off road tool/emergency kit. Prefer a neutral color but red or blue alright. Small canvas saddlebag considered if not too expensive. Need not be new, but not too worn, either, please. Trade or increasingly overleveraged US treasury bills (or 'lectronic equivalent). Patrick foolishly sold his Junior Moore -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fwd: Brooks Bag Loop Retrofit - a set on Flickr
Eric, I was the one who originally asked about this. After looking around online this is the exact design that I came up with too. My only concern is with a heavy load (I will have the saddlesack medium) that the zip ties and clip might slide on the saddle rails. We will see. Jeff On May 2, 7:34 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Thanks to everyone who posted ideas about adding bag loops to a Brooks saddle. I found a double snap clip at my local Ace Hardware, added a few zip ties, and http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623853970537/ Haven't road tested it yet, but I'm reasonably sure it won't fall off. --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fwd: Brooks Bag Loop Retrofit - a set on Flickr
I'll have tontry itmoitnon thenroad, butni think they've gone as far down as they will go. Time will tell. --Eric On May 3, 2010, at 8:16 AM, jpp paste...@notes.udayton.edu wrote: Eric, I was the one who originally asked about this. After looking around online this is the exact design that I came up with too. My only concern is with a heavy load (I will have the saddlesack medium) that the zip ties and clip might slide on the saddle rails. We will see. Jeff On May 2, 7:34 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Thanks to everyone who posted ideas about adding bag loops to a Brooks saddle. I found a double snap clip at my local Ace Hardware, added a few zip ties, and http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623853970537/ Haven't road tested it yet, but I'm reasonably sure it won't fall off. --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/ rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SoCal Riv May 1 Riv Ride; Photos
I'm game for a repeat ( or something like it) I just need to schedule it with staying at my daughters place down there. My wife and daughter need to do some wedding dress shopping... this may work out just great! ~Mike~ On May 3, 7:17 am, Andy.M andy.e.m...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like it was a great ride! I'm bummed that I missed it, but Seattle was amazing! Anyone down for a repeat some upcoming weekend? -Andy On May 1, 7:59 pm, Dustin Sharp paleo.v...@gmail.com wrote: Seven turned out for today's SoCal Riv ride, riding everything from a Roadeo with Jack Browns, to a MTB singlespeed with 29x2.4 tires. 42 miles, 5600 feet of climbing, and about 80% of it on dirt. Temps in the high 60s. This was some of the best mixed-surface riding around. Paved road, dirt road, rough fireroad, and a little single track. Some pretty steep pitches, including one stretch of 21% grade dirt. Stats and map: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/31903053 Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769...@n04/sets/72157623847776549/ Cheers, Dustin Sharp San Diego, Calif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Taking Bikes on Airplanes: A method I haven't seen before
I didn't know this was still allowed by any airlines. I used to do it in the early 80's without the pipe insulation. I could see the baggage handlers put it in the cargo bay last and all I got were some minor scratches. Later in the decade these same airlines started requiring a box. I miss the days when Amtrak would take an unboxed bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Replace bottom bracket question
I had my 7 year old bike repainted (actually powder coated). Inside the frame in a few places, there was some surface rust, completely removed as part of the preparation process. The original bottom bracket (Shimano BB 6500), which of course was removed prior to sending the frame away, has some surface rust. Most of it is near the thicker right hand side. The worst is a one inch square patch that I've tried gently to remove but isn't budging. I'm not much of a mechanic and I'm hoping the collective wisdom here can help me with whether or not I should replace the bottom bracket. Thanks much,Joan(Riv content: it's my Waterford, a cousin to my Bleriot.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Taking Bikes on Airplanes: A method I haven't seen before
Each airline has its own rules about accepting baggage, and rates vary considerably. For instance, United and Lufthansa have a relationship and code share routes. A couple of years ago, we chose to fly Lufthansa because bikes flew free while United charged $300 each way. Cost of the ticket was the same and it was a code share route, with UAL providing part of the service and Lufthansa part. Also, policies may be inconsistent between an airline's web site and reality. We've found it best to check with a live person at your departure airport, well in advance of travel, and get confirmation of what will be expected when you check in. Of course, even that is no guarantee but it does improve the odds. Speak to a baggage supervisor and keep notes of who you spoke with and when. dougP On May 1, 2:18 pm, Jeff Feldstein cygoo...@gmail.com wrote: Found this on a cyclist's blog: http://ashecoutts.info/wordpress/ashe/?p=78 Apparently these folks throw some pipe insulation on their bikes and throw it on the plane. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Riv May 1 Riv Ride; Photos
Happy to lead people on a mixed terrain adventure at any point. It does get hot in the areas with the best riding during the summer months though--something to keep in mind. From: Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 09:18:39 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: SoCal Riv May 1 Riv Ride; Photos I'm game for a repeat ( or something like it) I just need to schedule it with staying at my daughters place down there. My wife and daughter need to do some wedding dress shopping... this may work out just great! ~Mike~ On May 3, 7:17 am, Andy.M andy.e.m...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like it was a great ride! I'm bummed that I missed it, but Seattle was amazing! Anyone down for a repeat some upcoming weekend? -Andy On May 1, 7:59 pm, Dustin Sharp paleo.v...@gmail.com wrote: Seven turned out for today's SoCal Riv ride, riding everything from a Roadeo with Jack Browns, to a MTB singlespeed with 29x2.4 tires. 42 miles, 5600 feet of climbing, and about 80% of it on dirt. Temps in the high 60s. This was some of the best mixed-surface riding around. Paved road, dirt road, rough fireroad, and a little single track. Some pretty steep pitches, including one stretch of 21% grade dirt. Stats and map: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/31903053 Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769...@n04/sets/72157623847776549/ Cheers, Dustin Sharp San Diego, Calif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Replace bottom bracket question
Joan: After 7 years, I'd change the BB. It's earned its keep. Decent replacements cost from $20 on up. SKF and Chris King are nice but unless you're planning a world tour, a lowly Shimano will probably last another 7 years for you. dougP On May 3, 9:37 am, Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net wrote: I had my 7 year old bike repainted (actually powder coated). Inside the frame in a few places, there was some surface rust, completely removed as part of the preparation process. The original bottom bracket (Shimano BB 6500), which of course was removed prior to sending the frame away, has some surface rust. Most of it is near the thicker right hand side. The worst is a one inch square patch that I've tried gently to remove but isn't budging. I'm not much of a mechanic and I'm hoping the collective wisdom here can help me with whether or not I should replace the bottom bracket. Thanks much, Joan (Riv content: it's my Waterford, a cousin to my Bleriot.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Replace bottom bracket question
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net wrote: I had my 7 year old bike repainted (actually powder coated). Inside the frame in a few places, there was some surface rust, completely removed as part of the preparation process. The original bottom bracket (Shimano BB 6500), which of course was removed prior to sending the frame away, has some surface rust. Most of it is near the thicker right hand side. The worst is a one inch square patch that I've tried gently to remove but isn't budging. I'm not much of a mechanic and I'm hoping the collective wisdom here can help me with whether or not I should replace the bottom bracket. Thanks much, Joan (Riv content: it's my Waterford, a cousin to my Bleriot.) I'd just replace the BB with a new one. They aren't expensive, and doing it now might mean not having to disassemble the cranks for another 7 years. It's also an excellent time to put some Frame Saver or other rustproofing inside the tubes while it's fresh and unbuilt, might prevent those patches of inner surface rust from recurring.. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Look, MKS, Wellgo pedal; also 105 SPDs.
One more pair: old pair of 105 level single sided SPDs, bearings and clips fine, body scuffed, $15 shipped CONUS. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:01 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: 1. MKS RX-1 Track pedals (Keirin approved!) with Soma double clips and Christophe or Avenir or somesuch leather straps, about $1K miles, a few scuffs but otherwise excellent. These are MKS's top of the line track pedals. $70 shipped OBO. 2. Wellgo track pedals, only a few hundred miles, no clips, very smooth, $25 shipped. These are a bit larger than the RX-1s and work better with soft soled shoes; I used them with Bass, Sperry, Timberland etc. slip ons and they worked well. 3. Look KEOs, red, mid-level model ($160 new), fewer than 1K miles, no cleats, $55 shipped OBO. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Replace bottom bracket question
I'd continue to use it if the spindle has zero play and turns smoothly. Rust on the external surface of that body is inconsequential to use. If you have the tools on hand a bottom bracket replacement takes under 30 minutes, so I always would use something that is not broken. Bill On May 3, 9:49 am, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net wrote: I had my 7 year old bike repainted (actually powder coated). Inside the frame in a few places, there was some surface rust, completely removed as part of the preparation process. The original bottom bracket (Shimano BB 6500), which of course was removed prior to sending the frame away, has some surface rust. Most of it is near the thicker right hand side. The worst is a one inch square patch that I've tried gently to remove but isn't budging. I'm not much of a mechanic and I'm hoping the collective wisdom here can help me with whether or not I should replace the bottom bracket. Thanks much, Joan (Riv content: it's my Waterford, a cousin to my Bleriot.) I'd just replace the BB with a new one. They aren't expensive, and doing it now might mean not having to disassemble the cranks for another 7 years. It's also an excellent time to put some Frame Saver or other rustproofing inside the tubes while it's fresh and unbuilt, might prevent those patches of inner surface rust from recurring.. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: hiawatha cyclery print
When I returned from doing support on a bike tour on Saturday, my wife surprised me with mine framed in a silver frame that goes nicely with the water. She loves the poster so it will be prominently displayed. Jim - you may need another run. Or maybe another poster? H dougP On Apr 26, 4:34 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: I assume this is quasi on topic since I found out about the print here. I got my print from Hiawatha back from the framers today: http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/4556326860/ I think it came out really nicely with the green frame. Thanks Jim! -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] a hh poem
there was a quite-long a homer hilsen poem posted to rivbike on saturday or sunday. I read it - it was amusing in its length and content. But now it's gone. anyone know where it went? I liked it just the same - maybe I can find it in my rss cache. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SoCal Riv May 1 Riv Ride; Photos
Dustin: Love the photo of the tires. Run what you brung. Your average moving speed is about what I average on a tour...on pavementwith a whole lot less elevation gain. You guys were moving right along. dougP On May 1, 7:59 pm, Dustin Sharp paleo.v...@gmail.com wrote: Seven turned out for today's SoCal Riv ride, riding everything from a Roadeo with Jack Browns, to a MTB singlespeed with 29x2.4 tires. 42 miles, 5600 feet of climbing, and about 80% of it on dirt. Temps in the high 60s. This was some of the best mixed-surface riding around. Paved road, dirt road, rough fireroad, and a little single track. Some pretty steep pitches, including one stretch of 21% grade dirt. Stats and map: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/31903053 Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769...@n04/sets/72157623847776549/ Cheers, Dustin Sharp San Diego, Calif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: a hh poem
I read it this morning: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/236 Iambic tetrameter is the meter. On May 3, 10:30 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: there was a quite-long a homer hilsen poem posted to rivbike on saturday or sunday. I read it - it was amusing in its length and content. But now it's gone. anyone know where it went? I liked it just the same - maybe I can find it in my rss cache. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Taking Bikes on Airplanes: A method I haven't seen before
Nothing new about this, people have been doing it for a long time. I've brought an anboxed/unbagged bike on 4 transatlantic round trips with no problem with British Airways, Aer Lingus and Lufthansa. The fees are getting pretty stiff, though. On May 1, 3:18 pm, Jeff Feldstein cygoo...@gmail.com wrote: Found this on a cyclist's blog: http://ashecoutts.info/wordpress/ashe/?p=78 Apparently these folks throw some pipe insulation on their bikes and throw it on the plane. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Saluki History + Provenance
If all goes well it appears I may soon become an official member of the RBW Owners Bunch. (!!!) I'm curious about the origins and history of the Saluki. Can anyone fill me in? For example... • When did the model debut? Was it the first Riv bike designed for 650b? • Where were they made? By whom? • How many were made? • Did colors vary by model year, or was there a stock range? What were the colors? (I've seen mainly orange and butterscotch in the larger sizes, but there is quite a range of colors of smaller sizes still on the riv site.) • It's not currently in the catalog. When did production stop? Will they be back? (I heard a rumor of a possible rotation with the A.H.H.?) • Anyone have a pdf of the original brochure or design brief? Thank you! Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance
on 5/3/10 10:01 AM, Rob Harrison at robha...@gmail.com wrote: If all goes well it appears I may soon become an official member of the RBW Owners Bunch. (!!!) I'm curious about the origins and history of the Saluki. Can anyone fill me in? For example... € When did the model debut? Was it the first Riv bike designed for 650b? € Where were they made? By whom? € How many were made? € Did colors vary by model year, or was there a stock range? What were the colors? (I've seen mainly orange and butterscotch in the larger sizes, but there is quite a range of colors of smaller sizes still on the riv site.) € It's not currently in the catalog. When did production stop? Will they be back? (I heard a rumor of a possible rotation with the A.H.H.?) € Anyone have a pdf of the original brochure or design brief? Hey there Rob - Welcome to the bunch. I never put together a Saluki-specific page yet - http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw But, there wasn't too much in terms of separate printed material that I came across. There were definitely announcements in the Reader. It was the first 650B/584 bicycle that they produced. The production was not so much stopped as rolled into the Hilsen - the 650B/584 version is pretty similar if not identical. Except for the name and headbadge, of course. I'm kind of under the gun on a project early this week, but will dig through the archives later and try to get some more info posted. Here are some examples in the galleries: http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2009/cc604-ginozahnd0109.html http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc004-joelstern0505.html http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2006/cc117-joeszokoli0506.html http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc490-daveminyard0608.html http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2007/cc307-iankersey0507.html http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2007/cc359-clairezahnd0807.html -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance
On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 10:01 -0700, Rob Harrison wrote: If all goes well it appears I may soon become an official member of the RBW Owners Bunch. (!!!) I'm curious about the origins and history of the Saluki. Can anyone fill me in? For example... • When did the model debut? 2005, if I recall correctly. The Saluki mailing list began in Oct 2004. Was it the first Riv bike designed for 650b? yes • Where were they made? By whom? built by Toyo in Japan • How many were made? no idea • Did colors vary by model year, or was there a stock range? First year colors were silver and whats-in-the-diaper olive, but custom colors were available for a small upcharge. Later on, they went to butterscotch as the standard color. What were the colors? (I've seen mainly orange and butterscotch in the larger sizes, but there is quite a range of colors of smaller sizes still on the riv site.) You left out an interesting part: they came in center-pull-uki and cantiluki versions, with or without canti studs. • It's not currently in the catalog. When did production stop? when the A Homer Hilsen began Will they be back? (I heard a rumor of a possible rotation with the A.H.H.?) • Anyone have a pdf of the original brochure or design brief? I don't recall there being any such. Here's mine: http://freewebs.com/palincss http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/sets/72157617915097787/show/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance
The Saluki was introduced in late 2003 or early 2004. They were produced by Toyo in Japan, same as the Rambouillet, and the first batch was offered in either green or silver. Custom paint options were offered through a painter local to Rivendell for an upcharge, which accounts for most of the other colors you see. the Caramel was a custom color I asked for and Grant created for my Saluki from the first batch, and which he liked well enough to make it the stock option for future frame runs. (I asked for a Harvest Gold, like some Riv customs but a richer tone with more brown) As far as I know, the Saluki was the first production 650b-wheeled frame offered in the U.S. since a few mountain bikes from Raleigh and Schwinn in the 80's. They were initially offered with either NOS (reintroduced?) DiaCompe centerpull brakes or cantis, and when the Tektro super-long reach sidepulls were introduced, Grant designed a frame to go with them and fitted the smaller frames with 650b, the larger with 700c. Saluki production was rolled into this new frame. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Rob Harrison Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:02 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance If all goes well it appears I may soon become an official member of the RBW Owners Bunch. (!!!) I'm curious about the origins and history of the Saluki. Can anyone fill me in? For example... • When did the model debut? Was it the first Riv bike designed for 650b? • Where were they made? By whom? • How many were made? • Did colors vary by model year, or was there a stock range? What were the colors? (I've seen mainly orange and butterscotch in the larger sizes, but there is quite a range of colors of smaller sizes still on the riv site.) • It's not currently in the catalog. When did production stop? Will they be back? (I heard a rumor of a possible rotation with the A.H.H.?) • Anyone have a pdf of the original brochure or design brief? Thank you! Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance
What Jim said. And http://is.gd/bSxAZ There was also the pewter color in addition to what Steve listed. They aren't coming back as a Saluki. Production never stopped though - they're now the AHH in smaller sizes. I don't think there was ever a brochure, and yep, late 2004 or early 2005 is when the Saluki dropped. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: If all goes well it appears I may soon become an official member of the RBW Owners Bunch. (!!!) I'm curious about the origins and history of the Saluki. Can anyone fill me in? For example... • When did the model debut? Was it the first Riv bike designed for 650b? • Where were they made? By whom? • How many were made? • Did colors vary by model year, or was there a stock range? What were the colors? (I've seen mainly orange and butterscotch in the larger sizes, but there is quite a range of colors of smaller sizes still on the riv site.) • It's not currently in the catalog. When did production stop? Will they be back? (I heard a rumor of a possible rotation with the A.H.H.?) • Anyone have a pdf of the original brochure or design brief? Thank you! Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Wheel for the Hillborne
Good on ya. Building a wheel/wheels/wheelset is one of those things where you -really- connect with 'History' I think. Once I learned how, there is/was no going back. It's fun. Congrats on your Phil too! -Scott On May 3, 3:30 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Finally got around to doing a couple of things - getting a Phil Wood hub and building my own wheel. Jim Thill at Hiawatha spent a good chunk of an evening trying to drill into my thick skull how to properly build a wheel. Might have been slightly less dim than most days, as the instruction took, and now have a Phil freewheel hub laced to a Salsa Delgado rim. Even more amazingly the wheel has stayed good for about 60 miles of riding over the weekend. Including a curb bash taken at a lot higher speed than planned. About a week earlier, swapped the crankset out for a Sugino XD found secondhand. More than a bit scuffed up, but that crank just looks so right on this bike. One last observation - the Silver shifters do seem to work alot better with a seven speed rear than an eight. Was pretty sure that would be the case, but was nice to have it confirmed. A couple of photos here -http://tinyurl.com/23f4do3 Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance
I misspoke(typed) the dates--late '04-early -05 is correct. (I got mine in March or April of 2005) Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Frederick, Steve Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 2:34 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance The Saluki was introduced in late 2003 or early 2004. They were produced by Toyo in Japan, same as the Rambouillet, and the first batch was offered in either green or silver. Custom paint options were offered through a painter local to Rivendell for an upcharge, which accounts for most of the other colors you see. the Caramel was a custom color I asked for and Grant created for my Saluki from the first batch, and which he liked well enough to make it the stock option for future frame runs. (I asked for a Harvest Gold, like some Riv customs but a richer tone with more brown) As far as I know, the Saluki was the first production 650b-wheeled frame offered in the U.S. since a few mountain bikes from Raleigh and Schwinn in the 80's. They were initially offered with either NOS (reintroduced?) DiaCompe centerpull brakes or cantis, and when the Tektro super-long reach sidepulls were introduced, Grant designed a frame to go with them and fitted the smaller frames with 650b, the larger with 700c. Saluki production was rolled into this new frame. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Rob Harrison Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:02 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance If all goes well it appears I may soon become an official member of the RBW Owners Bunch. (!!!) I'm curious about the origins and history of the Saluki. Can anyone fill me in? For example... • When did the model debut? Was it the first Riv bike designed for 650b? • Where were they made? By whom? • How many were made? • Did colors vary by model year, or was there a stock range? What were the colors? (I've seen mainly orange and butterscotch in the larger sizes, but there is quite a range of colors of smaller sizes still on the riv site.) • It's not currently in the catalog. When did production stop? Will they be back? (I heard a rumor of a possible rotation with the A.H.H.?) • Anyone have a pdf of the original brochure or design brief? Thank you! Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance
Just to add to all the good info so far, you can use the time travel portal (waybackmachine archive) and look it up on the early 2005 RBW website. http://web.archive.org/web/20050207221216/www.rivbike.com/html/bikes_saluki.html Original green was yellow olive You could also get a pewter headbadge for an addition $25. Tailwinds! From: Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 12:01:35 PM Subject: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance If all goes well it appears I may soon become an official member of the RBW Owners Bunch. (!!!) I'm curious about the origins and history of the Saluki. Can anyone fill me in? For example... • When did the model debut? Was it the first Riv bike designed for 650b? • Where were they made? By whom? • How many were made? • Did colors vary by model year, or was there a stock range? What were the colors? (I've seen mainly orange and butterscotch in the larger sizes, but there is quite a range of colors of smaller sizes still on the riv site.) • It's not currently in the catalog. When did production stop? Will they be back? (I heard a rumor of a possible rotation with the A.H.H.?) • Anyone have a pdf of the original brochure or design brief? Thank you! Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance
On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 12:02 -0700, Bruce wrote: Just to add to all the good info so far, you can use the time travel portal (waybackmachine archive) and look it up on the early 2005 RBW website. http://web.archive.org/web/20050207221216/www.rivbike.com/html/bikes_saluki.html Original green was yellow olive That's the color I referred to as what's in the baby's diaper. You could also get a pewter headbadge for an addition $25. I did. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Wheel for the Hillborne
Thanks for the comments Scott. Was scared off of wheelbuilding many years ago by a very good, but very cranky mechanic. After getting back into riding a few years ago, sort of made a promise to myself to try it at least once. Might come in handy say, if, maybe, I purchase something like a Bob Brown 29er that's currently single speed and want to change it to a 1x9 at a future date. (Not that the pruchase will certainly happen, but it is being seriously contemplated.) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On May 3, 1:36 pm, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Good on ya. Building a wheel/wheels/wheelset is one of those things where you -really- connect with 'History' I think. Once I learned how, there is/was no going back. It's fun. Congrats on your Phil too! -Scott On May 3, 3:30 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Finally got around to doing a couple of things - getting a Phil Wood hub and building my own wheel. Jim Thill at Hiawatha spent a good chunk of an evening trying to drill into my thick skull how to properly build a wheel. Might have been slightly less dim than most days, as the instruction took, and now have a Phil freewheel hub laced to a Salsa Delgado rim. Even more amazingly the wheel has stayed good for about 60 miles of riding over the weekend. Including a curb bash taken at a lot higher speed than planned. About a week earlier, swapped the crankset out for a Sugino XD found secondhand. More than a bit scuffed up, but that crank just looks so right on this bike. One last observation - the Silver shifters do seem to work alot better with a seven speed rear than an eight. Was pretty sure that would be the case, but was nice to have it confirmed. A couple of photos here -http://tinyurl.com/23f4do3 Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Wheel for the Hillborne
Is Jobst's book still the de facto resource for learning the craft of wheelbuilding? Any other suggested resources? I think I'll make building a lighter set of wheels for my RB-1 as a summer project. :) -nathan On May 3, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Good on ya. Building a wheel/wheels/wheelset is one of those things where you -really- connect with 'History' I think. Once I learned how, there is/was no going back. It's fun. Congrats on your Phil too! -Scott On May 3, 3:30 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Finally got around to doing a couple of things - getting a Phil Wood hub and building my own wheel. Jim Thill at Hiawatha spent a good chunk of an evening trying to drill into my thick skull how to properly build a wheel. Might have been slightly less dim than most days, as the instruction took, and now have a Phil freewheel hub laced to a Salsa Delgado rim. Even more amazingly the wheel has stayed good for about 60 miles of riding over the weekend. Including a curb bash taken at a lot higher speed than planned. About a week earlier, swapped the crankset out for a Sugino XD found secondhand. More than a bit scuffed up, but that crank just looks so right on this bike. One last observation - the Silver shifters do seem to work alot better with a seven speed rear than an eight. Was pretty sure that would be the case, but was nice to have it confirmed. A couple of photos here -http://tinyurl.com/23f4do3 Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Wheel for the Hillborne
I've built a half dozen or so wheels just using Sheldon Brown's wheelbuilding page. As long as you're working with a fairly traditional wheel (no oddball spoke styles or lacing patterns), the main thing is to get the pattern right and to approach the final stage gradually and evenly. I find wheelbuilding to be a relaxing way to spend an evening, and it generally makes me wish i had the excuse to do it more often. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:06 PM, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: Is Jobst's book still the de facto resource for learning the craft of wheelbuilding? Any other suggested resources? I think I'll make building a lighter set of wheels for my RB-1 as a summer project. :) -nathan On May 3, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Good on ya. Building a wheel/wheels/wheelset is one of those things where you -really- connect with 'History' I think. Once I learned how, there is/was no going back. It's fun. Congrats on your Phil too! -Scott On May 3, 3:30 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Finally got around to doing a couple of things - getting a Phil Wood hub and building my own wheel. Jim Thill at Hiawatha spent a good chunk of an evening trying to drill into my thick skull how to properly build a wheel. Might have been slightly less dim than most days, as the instruction took, and now have a Phil freewheel hub laced to a Salsa Delgado rim. Even more amazingly the wheel has stayed good for about 60 miles of riding over the weekend. Including a curb bash taken at a lot higher speed than planned. About a week earlier, swapped the crankset out for a Sugino XD found secondhand. More than a bit scuffed up, but that crank just looks so right on this bike. One last observation - the Silver shifters do seem to work alot better with a seven speed rear than an eight. Was pretty sure that would be the case, but was nice to have it confirmed. A couple of photos here -http://tinyurl.com/23f4do3 Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: 110mm BCD chainrings (Sugino, T.A.)
I have the following 110mm BCD/5-pin chainrings available: Sugino silver 48t outer. New/take-off. $20 Sugino silver 36t middle. New/take-off. $17 T.A. silver 36t middle. New. $38 The Suginos were taken off an XD2 triple. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/justri...57623271581328/ The T.A. was ordered from Wiggle, and will be in my hands shortly (not cost effective to return it). Prices include shipping in the Con US. PayPal only. E-mail me if interested. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I registered for the Grizzly Peak Century today
Way to go Eddie! Jim, great riding with you up Grizzly Peak. A couple of fine complements for the Hillborne with Albatros bars: Beautiful bike then me with my usual stellar wit - Thanks, but you're passing me :-) - Yeah, but you can carry a loaf of bread and wine Also from two women on beautiful carbon frames towards the end, You mean you just did what I did riding that? Wow, my components cost a fortune and you look more comfortable. Tony On May 2, 9:44 pm, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: I did it. A really fine day for cycling. 74 miles, average 11.7 mph. Next one will be: Monticello Metric in Solano County. http://www.monticellocycling.org/century/rides.html On May 2, 7:57 pm, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: You can do it Eddie, ride your on pace, eat and drink regularly and have fun. The first time I did the Seattle to Portland ride -back to back centuries over 2 days for mortals- I was new to riding as an adult and was (are) a Clydesdale. My longest ride before the event was 66 miles and I did fine, slow but fine. Good luck Ryan On May 1, 7:33 am, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: nope, i am in for the metric and starting in Moraga. have only ridden 70 mi once in my whole life, so praying for stamina. Eddie On May 1, 6:53 am, Tony tony.m...@astound.net wrote: Looks like you and me Jim. (Not sure if ebayer's me too meant he's going too or he also got vetoed) Tony On Apr 30, 10:06 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I got vetoed. My kitchen remodel isn't done, and my wife won't let me burn a Sunday that could be spent getting it closer to done. If anyone hasn't signed up but wants to use my spot, let me know. I've already paid. On Apr 30, 9:48 am, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I thought I'd bump this thread and see how many are riding Grizzly Peak this Sunday. It looks like it will be great weather. jim mather walnut creek ca On Mar 15, 2:39 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I live in El Cerrito. I'll be riding to the Island Alternative Start next to the Brazil Building. I'll be riding my Orange 56cm Hillborne, most likely, and probably will be riding with Doug, who will be on his big 63cm coffee colored AHH. Hope to see some of you out there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hidequotedtext - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To
[RBW] Re: a hh poem
Forgive the long-ish post to follow. I wrote this one years ago (or so it seems) when the stand-alone AHH website was up and there was a $20 credit in the offing. There were a number of good poems crafted for the site. Not sure what happened to the site or the other poems. I'm no poet, but was inspired by a beautiful bike and the company behind it. FWIW, I give you: The Resurrection of A. Homer Hilsen There it was, there it sat. Bars akimbo, tires flat. Cluster missing, saddle worn. Dangling hemp-wrap. Dusty. Torn. Rubbed the down-tube, read the name: A. Homer Hilsen – of Rivendell fame. I knelt to worship and wondered why. Lost, or stolen? Left to die? Who would leave it? Could I? Could You? I asked around, nobody knew. I felt linked like a chain to its ultimate fate, the local bike shop was open ‘till eight… They told me the story of a man dressed in wool. He lived in the country, his glass always half full. The bike was his passion, his comfort, his dream. Fittings for Mark’s rack, lugs filled with cream. But no one had seen him, at least for a while. The man had moved on. My lips cracked a small smile. I asked the police what the policy was. They showed me the poster: Auction by Fuzz. I showed up quite early, on the day of the deal. Misty and quiet, the sky painted like steel. I noticed the Hilsen being eyed by a punk, mixed in with the lawnmowers, car parts and junk. He grabbed a brake lever and gave it a tug, Spat on a pedal, then moved on with a shrug. The auction moved slowly, through toilets and tools, Something for everyone: the dealers, the fools. And then it was up there, wheeled up by a cop. The pads squealed on the front rim. It came to a stop. The bidding began with the auctioneers’ pitch: “A handsome blue bike for the not quite so rich!” It was me and the punk, and a man I could see who was standing alone near a lone Redwood tree. It had to be mine. I just had to win. To let Homer go home without me was a sin! The punk shrugged again when three figures were spoke. Fished through his pockets, confirmed he was broke. I looked near the tree, heard the faint ping of a bell, The auctioneer paused, raised the gavel. It fell. “It’s mine! Can’t believe it!” My grin ear to ear. I cashed out in seconds, lost a fight with a tear. I wheeled Hilsen homeward and vowed to be kinder. Put him up on my work stand and loosened the binder. I thought about fate, how I won, how I got’m. Flipped the frame in the stand to examine the bottom. As soon as the upside was more downside than most, A small rolled up paper fluttered out from the post: “I’m happy you own me, the pleasure’s all mine. That punk would’ve stripped me and sold me for wine.” “Now we can share them, those days on the road. Losing all count of the friendships we sowed.” “You see, I’m attracted to people like you; People who dream of a journey or two.” A.H.H. I’m sure when I’m older, my legs tired of turning, I’ll think of this day; of the joy and the yearning. I’ll pass it along to a like-minded good soul; dusty and weathered, but ready to roll. The bike will live on, with new stories to tell; new owner, new road, and the faint ping of a bell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: a hh poem
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Forgive the long-ish post to follow. I wrote this one years ago (or so it seems) when the stand-alone AHH website was up and there was a $20 credit in the offing. There were a number of good poems crafted for the site. Not sure what happened to the site or the other poems. I'm no poet, but was inspired by a beautiful bike and the company behind it. FWIW, I give you: The Resurrection of A. Homer Hilsen Wow, Just plain excellent. well done. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] a hh poem
on 5/3/10 10:30 AM, Seth Vidal at skvi...@gmail.com wrote: there was a quite-long a homer hilsen poem posted to rivbike on saturday or sunday. I read it - it was amusing in its length and content. But now it's gone. anyone know where it went? I liked it just the same - maybe I can find it in my rss cache. You might try the internet wayback machine to the old (defunct) Hilsen page - http://www.ahomerhilsen.com/ I know that a Hilsen ode and other user-submitted rhymes appeared there for a while. - Jim back to work... -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] I Gotta Think Everyone Took a Ride Today
on 5/2/10 6:56 PM, Ray at r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: The Bay Area weather was stellar today, and I'm guessing lots of NorCal Rivendell folks were out in it. Where'd you folks ride? I did almost catch up with one Riv sort out near China Beach riding what looked to be an orange Sam, but other than him, no other Riv sightings. My ride was from Novato (had to shoot up there this morning with my wife) back home to San Francisco via China Beach State Park. 43 miles and change. I have been riding my new Bleriot for a couple of weeks, and came pretty close to tossing it in the back of the truck before we left. Then, at the last moment, I picked up the Canti-Rom, pumped her up, and rode that for the day. It sure is fun getting back on a snappy bike. Actually got very little riding in this last week. Had a project come in Friday that's due Tuesday, was in a workshop all Sunday. Everytime I got to poke my head outside, I got to count all the lucky folks enjoying the first hint of summertime riding - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com Then I sat up, wiped the water out of my eyes, and looked at my bike, and just like that I knew it was dead -- Robert McCammon, Boy's Life -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: I Gotta Think Everyone Took a Ride Today
on 5/3/10 4:59 AM, Jon Grant at jgr...@papagrant.com wrote: I¹ve been riding every day this past week with my 4-year-olds, who just got pedals on their bikes and now don¹t want to do anything else. Over two miles yesterday! Wow. Congrats! If ever there were rides that you wised would go on forever, eh? - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Workshops of the iBob's Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines My nighttime attitude is anyone can run you down and get away with it. That's why I don't even own a bike light or one of those godawful reflective suits. Because if you've put yourself in a position where someone has to see you in order for you to be safe...you've already blown it. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: New Wheel for the Hillborne
As a quick practical primer, I thought Sheldon's essay on the Harris Cyclery website was very clear and easy to follow. I built a nice set of wheels using it alone as my guide, with absolutely no other prior knowledge or experience. And they're still rolling along nicely. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Test rode the 48cm Hunq'a
Sorry, I meant that with my 76cm PBH, the 48cm Hunqa was as large a frame as I'd consider. The top tube length was fine but I had zero standover. I did not ask for an official recommendation but I suspect they'd steer me toward the 47cm Atlantis, instead. For the money and greater trail- ability, I'd prefer the Hunqa's design. On May 3, 5:01 am, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: You're 5'4 and felt that the 48 was too small? By Grants description you should buy down and since I usually run a 54/53 size a 48 Hunq would be my size (I assume). But I am 5'9. I am sure the 54 would be too tall. This may be swaying me towards the SH. On May 2, 6:06 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I stopped by to visit Rivendell on Thursday while passing through on my San Fran vacation. I was lucky enough to take the 48cm gray and red Hunqapillar for a spin around the parking lot. I'm 5'4 and I'd say my 76cm PBH (barefoot) was about as low as I'd want to be on that bike. Any smaller and I'd probably have choose the Atlantis. The bullmoose bars had a great, comfortable, heads-up feel. I'll have to think hard about whether to replace my techno hardtail with a Hunq'a... Is anyone planning to use a Hunqapillar for touring? I'm interested to hear about your setup and plans. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Diagonapillar blueprints revealed
The Hunqapage on the Rivsite now has a photo of the design sheet for the Diagonal 2TT. http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/hunqapillar/50-713 In related news, Grant's post about the ropeswing says that the 54 is now built and being ridden. http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/236 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] I'll be in Chicago for the next eight days
Hi folks - What should I not miss in Chicago? Interests: art, architecture, museums, bike shops/builders, local beer/food, bookstores, interesting neighborhoods, dive bars, good places to run. I have all next weekend to do whatever, so I'm looking to fill up those days. And, if you want to hang/get a beer, let me know OFF LIST. Thanks for any tips! -Gino -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I registered for the Grizzly Peak Century today
I did the ride on my carbon forked steel Steve Rex. I have nothing against carbon, but holy crap, what percent of the 1000 cyclists on that ride were riding carbon? Incredibly ubiquitous among the speedsters. A zillion plastic bikes from the mass producers. See you next time. On May 3, 1:24 pm, Tony tony.m...@astound.net wrote: Way to go Eddie! Jim, great riding with you up Grizzly Peak. A couple of fine complements for the Hillborne with Albatros bars: Beautiful bike then me with my usual stellar wit - Thanks, but you're passing me :-) - Yeah, but you can carry a loaf of bread and wine Also from two women on beautiful carbon frames towards the end, You mean you just did what I did riding that? Wow, my components cost a fortune and you look more comfortable. Tony On May 2, 9:44 pm, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: I did it. A really fine day for cycling. 74 miles, average 11.7 mph. Next one will be: Monticello Metric in Solano County. http://www.monticellocycling.org/century/rides.html On May 2, 7:57 pm, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: You can do it Eddie, ride your on pace, eat and drink regularly and have fun. The first time I did the Seattle to Portland ride -back to back centuries over 2 days for mortals- I was new to riding as an adult and was (are) a Clydesdale. My longest ride before the event was 66 miles and I did fine, slow but fine. Good luck Ryan On May 1, 7:33 am, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: nope, i am in for the metric and starting in Moraga. have only ridden 70 mi once in my whole life, so praying for stamina. Eddie On May 1, 6:53 am, Tony tony.m...@astound.net wrote: Looks like you and me Jim. (Not sure if ebayer's me too meant he's going too or he also got vetoed) Tony On Apr 30, 10:06 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I got vetoed. My kitchen remodel isn't done, and my wife won't let me burn a Sunday that could be spent getting it closer to done. If anyone hasn't signed up but wants to use my spot, let me know. I've already paid. On Apr 30, 9:48 am, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I thought I'd bump this thread and see how many are riding Grizzly Peak this Sunday. It looks like it will be great weather. jim mather walnut creek ca On Mar 15, 2:39 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I live in El Cerrito. I'll be riding to the Island Alternative Start next to the Brazil Building. I'll be riding my Orange 56cm Hillborne, most likely, and probably will be riding with Doug, who will be on his big 63cm coffee colored AHH. Hope to see some of you out there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
[RBW] Re: I registered for the Grizzly Peak Century today
Good riding with you, Tony! I only did the 73 mile north loop and was completely knackered at the end. I think I need one or two more lower gears for that much climbing. As I was limping in, Tony was leaving for the south loop -- another 40 hilly miles worth of riding -- and he was looking as fresh as ever. How were the steep bits Tony? I saw a good number of Riv's: a father on a nice gray/cream Roadeo and son on an Atlantis with wood fenders; a couple from Oakland, with one on an Atlantis and the other on an Ur-Riv (Bridgestone, that is); I saw a couple of Hilsens, including one that went zipping by me on McEwen Road, a very steep climb. Riv was represented among the volunteers too, with Rich Lesnik at check-in and an Atlantis owner at the Island rest stop. Many thanks to the volunteers, who helped make it a great event. jim m wc ca On May 3, 1:24 pm, Tony tony.m...@astound.net wrote: Way to go Eddie! Jim, great riding with you up Grizzly Peak. A couple of fine complements for the Hillborne with Albatros bars: Beautiful bike then me with my usual stellar wit - Thanks, but you're passing me :-) - Yeah, but you can carry a loaf of bread and wine Also from two women on beautiful carbon frames towards the end, You mean you just did what I did riding that? Wow, my components cost a fortune and you look more comfortable. Tony On May 2, 9:44 pm, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: I did it. A really fine day for cycling. 74 miles, average 11.7 mph. Next one will be: Monticello Metric in Solano County. http://www.monticellocycling.org/century/rides.html On May 2, 7:57 pm, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: You can do it Eddie, ride your on pace, eat and drink regularly and have fun. The first time I did the Seattle to Portland ride -back to back centuries over 2 days for mortals- I was new to riding as an adult and was (are) a Clydesdale. My longest ride before the event was 66 miles and I did fine, slow but fine. Good luck Ryan On May 1, 7:33 am, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: nope, i am in for the metric and starting in Moraga. have only ridden 70 mi once in my whole life, so praying for stamina. Eddie On May 1, 6:53 am, Tony tony.m...@astound.net wrote: Looks like you and me Jim. (Not sure if ebayer's me too meant he's going too or he also got vetoed) Tony On Apr 30, 10:06 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I got vetoed. My kitchen remodel isn't done, and my wife won't let me burn a Sunday that could be spent getting it closer to done. If anyone hasn't signed up but wants to use my spot, let me know. I've already paid. On Apr 30, 9:48 am, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I thought I'd bump this thread and see how many are riding Grizzly Peak this Sunday. It looks like it will be great weather. jim mather walnut creek ca On Mar 15, 2:39 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I live in El Cerrito. I'll be riding to the Island Alternative Start next to the Brazil Building. I'll be riding my Orange 56cm Hillborne, most likely, and probably will be riding with Doug, who will be on his big 63cm coffee colored AHH. Hope to see some of you out there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group
[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed
Not awful but I am glad I ride a smaller frame. On May 3, 6:54 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: The Hunqapage on the Rivsite now has a photo of the design sheet for the Diagonal 2TT. http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/hunqapillar/50-713 In related news, Grant's post about the ropeswing says that the 54 is now built and being ridden. http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/236 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Test rode the 48cm Hunq'a
Awesome. That means it would be about the right size for me. Hunqa is back on the table! On May 3, 6:15 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, I meant that with my 76cm PBH, the 48cm Hunqa was as large a frame as I'd consider. The top tube length was fine but I had zero standover. I did not ask for an official recommendation but I suspect they'd steer me toward the 47cm Atlantis, instead. For the money and greater trail- ability, I'd prefer the Hunqa's design. On May 3, 5:01 am, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: You're 5'4 and felt that the 48 was too small? By Grants description you should buy down and since I usually run a 54/53 size a 48 Hunq would be my size (I assume). But I am 5'9. I am sure the 54 would be too tall. This may be swaying me towards the SH. On May 2, 6:06 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I stopped by to visit Rivendell on Thursday while passing through on my San Fran vacation. I was lucky enough to take the 48cm gray and red Hunqapillar for a spin around the parking lot. I'm 5'4 and I'd say my 76cm PBH (barefoot) was about as low as I'd want to be on that bike. Any smaller and I'd probably have choose the Atlantis. The bullmoose bars had a great, comfortable, heads-up feel. I'll have to think hard about whether to replace my techno hardtail with a Hunq'a... Is anyone planning to use a Hunqapillar for touring? I'm interested to hear about your setup and plans. Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Opinion on Potential Sale of 1985 Trek 720
I sold my 25 720 this past November. It was in very good condition. I opted for a 68cm Waterford Adventure Cycle. It took me several months and some extra effort to close the deal on the 720 I received about $750. It did not have Phil Hubs and Riv Tubus racks. It was for the most part original except for Nitto stem. I think you will work to get $1000 for it, so I would keep it and enjoy it. I liked my 720. It was just too small for me. I am loving the Waterford and happy that things worked out well for me. If you enjoy your 720 then keep it and cherish for its comfort and heritage. On May 2, 4:38 pm, Bob linthi...@gmail.com wrote: I realize this post is not Rivendell-related--I hope it's OK. My sense is that the group members here might know a few things about other fine bicycles, and I would appreciate an opinion. I have a 1985 Trek 720. I have upgraded it over the years: It has 700c Lesnik-built wheels with Phil Wood hubs, Nitto bar and stem, Sugino cranks, original derailleurs, Brooks B17, Tubus rear and Rivendell front racks, the works. It's a nice bike, pristine in every way. The challenge: We are moving overseas for several years, and I have 10 bicycles need to lighten up. The 720 is by far the nicest bike I have, which makes it the least useful to me, in that I won't park this for the day at the Metro, leave it outside of the grocery store (for very long), ride it in the rain, etc. My other old Trek is more seasoned, less valuable, and gets a heck of a lot more use. What do you think this bike is worth, ballpark? I know this is probably dreaming, but I think it would take at least $2500 for me to part with her. It seems somehow unfair for this bike to hang in my basement for much longer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I'll be in Chicago for the next eight days
I found both the Shedd Aquarium and the Museum of Science and Industry worth visits. Bill On May 3, 3:58 pm, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks - What should I not miss in Chicago? Interests: art, architecture, museums, bike shops/builders, local beer/food, bookstores, interesting neighborhoods, dive bars, good places to run. I have all next weekend to do whatever, so I'm looking to fill up those days. And, if you want to hang/get a beer, let me know OFF LIST. Thanks for any tips! -Gino -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I'll be in Chicago for the next eight days
+1 on Shedd Aquarium and MOSI Also, if you are so inclined, a Cubs game at Wrigley is an experience you won't forget. On May 3, 4:26 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: I found both the Shedd Aquarium and the Museum of Science and Industry worth visits. Bill On May 3, 3:58 pm, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks - What should I not miss in Chicago? Interests: art, architecture, museums, bike shops/builders, local beer/food, bookstores, interesting neighborhoods, dive bars, good places to run. I have all next weekend to do whatever, so I'm looking to fill up those days. And, if you want to hang/get a beer, let me know OFF LIST. Thanks for any tips! -Gino -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 110mm BCD chainrings (Sugino, T.A.)
The Sugino 'rings have been sold. The T.A. is still available. On May 3, 2:15 pm, M. Chandler milehighska...@gmail.com wrote: I have the following 110mm BCD/5-pin chainrings available: Sugino silver 48t outer. New/take-off. $20 Sugino silver 36t middle. New/take-off. $17 T.A. silver 36t middle. New. $38 The Suginos were taken off an XD2 triple. Photos here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/justri...57623271581328/ The T.A. was ordered from Wiggle, and will be in my hands shortly (not cost effective to return it). Prices include shipping in the Con US. PayPal only. E-mail me if interested. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I'll be in Chicago for the next eight days
Head to Logan Square and grab some brunch at Lula's and visit Boulevard Bikes next door. They had a nice Heron hanging from the ceiling last time I was in there. http://www.boulevardbikeshop.com/ Wicker Park/Bucktown is always an interesting neighborhood to check out. Rapid Transit bike shop is in that neighborhood. Both of these places are off the Blue line on the CTA. Logan Square stop and the Damon stop. Each neighborhood also has its share of bars and Wicker Park has plenty of small art galleries. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Diagonapillar blueprints revealed
Hey, Looks like a Joe Breeze mountain bike from 1978 or so. On May 3, 2010, at 3:54 PM, William wrote: The Hunqapage on the Rivsite now has a photo of the design sheet for the Diagonal 2TT. http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/hunqapillar/50-713 In related news, Grant's post about the ropeswing says that the 54 is now built and being ridden. http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/236 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] is this confusing or am i missing something? Waterford Hillbornes?
just posted to the Riv site. Waterford is building Hillbornes? Larger ones will have two top tubes? Two top tubes on a 56 cm frame? Here's what's coming: Orange, side-pull, 56cm and 60cm Sam Hillborne frames arriving from Taiwan mid June. $1000. Frames are available! All other sizes becoming available in mid to late May from Waterford. Taiwan fork, Waterford frame. Same orange. $1250. No bb or seatpost. 56cm and 60cm Waterford Sam Hillborne frames also available on request. All Waterford frames will be designed for cantilever brakes and you get 2 top tubes (at no extra charge!) on frames 56cm and larger. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] is this confusing or am i missing something? Waterford Hillbornes?
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:01 PM, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: just posted to the Riv site. Waterford is building Hillbornes? Larger ones will have two top tubes? Two top tubes on a 56 cm frame? Here's what's coming: Orange, side-pull, 56cm and 60cm Sam Hillborne frames arriving from Taiwan mid June. $1000. Frames are available! All other sizes becoming available in mid to late May from Waterford. Taiwan fork, Waterford frame. Same orange. $1250. No bb or seatpost. 56cm and 60cm Waterford Sam Hillborne frames also available on request. All Waterford frames will be designed for cantilever brakes and you get 2 top tubes (at no extra charge!) on frames 56cm and larger. I wonder how successful the hillborne has been. It seems like the couldn't keep them in stock, which is typically a good sign. They've gotten some recent good press, too. But $1250 for a domestically made frame is a compelling number. I hope hillborne sales are doing well and I hope this increases them. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] An-Atomica saddles for Clyde
wanting to try out the An-Atomica saddles. Anyone suggest a good source for these, in the Clyde version? thanks RL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: is this confusing or am i missing something? Waterford Hillbornes?
It sounds like there are some 56 and 60's coming in now from Taiwan. They sell for $1000 and come with BB and seatpost and use sidepulls. Then after that the SH frame will be made by Waterford and come with a Taiwan fork. No BB or seatpost and made for canti brakespriced at $1250. I am not sure what the 56 and 60's from Waterford by special request means. I assume all sizes will be orange. They are more expensive but I find this news exciting. On May 3, 9:01 pm, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: just posted to the Riv site. Waterford is building Hillbornes? Larger ones will have two top tubes? Two top tubes on a 56 cm frame? Here's what's coming: Orange, side-pull, 56cm and 60cm Sam Hillborne frames arriving from Taiwan mid June. $1000. Frames are available! All other sizes becoming available in mid to late May from Waterford. Taiwan fork, Waterford frame. Same orange. $1250. No bb or seatpost. 56cm and 60cm Waterford Sam Hillborne frames also available on request. All Waterford frames will be designed for cantilever brakes and you get 2 top tubes (at no extra charge!) on frames 56cm and larger. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: is this confusing or am i missing something? Waterford Hillbornes?
i am a bit more perplexed by the mention of two top tubes? a new viral advertising campaign for new stuff from Riv. I can be with that. Grant is the master. On May 3, 6:07 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: It sounds like there are some 56 and 60's coming in now from Taiwan. They sell for $1000 and come with BB and seatpost and use sidepulls. Then after that the SH frame will be made by Waterford and come with a Taiwan fork. No BB or seatpost and made for canti brakespriced at $1250. I am not sure what the 56 and 60's from Waterford by special request means. I assume all sizes will be orange. They are more expensive but I find this news exciting. On May 3, 9:01 pm, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: just posted to the Riv site. Waterford is building Hillbornes? Larger ones will have two top tubes? Two top tubes on a 56 cm frame? Here's what's coming: Orange, side-pull, 56cm and 60cm Sam Hillborne frames arriving from Taiwan mid June. $1000. Frames are available! All other sizes becoming available in mid to late May from Waterford. Taiwan fork, Waterford frame. Same orange. $1250. No bb or seatpost. 56cm and 60cm Waterford Sam Hillborne frames also available on request. All Waterford frames will be designed for cantilever brakes and you get 2 top tubes (at no extra charge!) on frames 56cm and larger. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] My new AHH and it's maiden shakedown ride.
Lots of toiling on my part. Lots of help, guidance, and reassurance on RBW's part. My 59cm A.H.H. http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027...@n00/sets/72157623986998644/ Some friends of my friend had a trip planned to hit the MTB trails on the western slopes of Colorado in the town of Fruita, and I got an extended invite. As it turns out all the original planners scrapped going due to some ominous weather reports. My buddy and I had no plans to cancel...and headed up for a weekend of either fun riding, or snowed in micro beer drinking. Win win right? I'll let the pictures answer the weather question. Coincidentally it was the same weekend as the Fruita Fat Tire Festival. More the merrier yea. I have ridden the trails there on several occasions, but always on a dedicated suspended MTB. Well I wanted to give the AHH it's first workout, and my friends bike can accept 650b or 700c, so he chose to throw on his 700x42 tired wheelset and we were going to do what we could. That turned out to be everything. MTB festival afoot, there were a fantastic amount of full-sus high end bikes out there. Some really impressive rigs to say the least. Then there was us. Obviously we got some funny looks and lots of comments, but never a negative word. I had the best time riding this weekend out of all my trips. We were moving just as fast if not faster up hill, and hanging with most on the down side. Big drops and hits not withstanding. We rode almost 40 miles in 2 days. 98% of that was technical singletrack. The AHH was flawless. Not one adjustment, tweak, or problem. I was very shocked at how well the 700 tires rolled over and up the rough. My worries about the 59cm frame are gone. Pedal strike was extremely common with a 10 bb height, and almost bucked me off once, but adaptation was the answer for that. Underbiking. Rough riding. Whatever you want to call it...rocks. http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027...@n00/sets/72157623986842368/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Grip King/ MKS Lambda pedal spikes
Recent order from RBW included a bag of blunt pedal spikes. Installed 8 per pedal in the manner described on the RBW site, except I did not have the appropriate vise-grip. Used a slightly over-sized socket wrench instead. After a short rainy test ride I was well satisfied with the results except that on inspection later in the evening, 3 of the spikes were missing, all from the non drive side pedal. I accept that this was most likely due to user error. My theory is that the missing spikes were started crooked and when snugged down to the straight position the shallow threads were stripped. Nevertheless, it prompted a trip to the local hardware. Their thread sizing board identified the spikes as 4mm with a 0.7mm thread pitch. They had the matching plug tap in stock for $3.79 (made in the USA). Recommended drill bit is a #30 wire gauge bit (3.26mm diam.) for $2.99. While there I purchased a 100 mm vise grip for $12.99 (made in Taiwan). I am passing this information along in case it would save some time for someone else who may prefer to cut the threads with a tap. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Replace bottom bracket question
On May 3, 9:37 am, Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net wrote: The original bottom bracket (Shimano BB 6500), which of course was removed prior to sending the frame away, has some surface rust. Most of it is near the thicker right hand side. The worst is a one inch square patch that I've tried gently to remove but isn't budging. From your description, it appears the surface rust is on the shell of the bottom bracket. Surface rust here shouldn't be of any concern, but you can remove it with a wire brush and some elbow grease. If you're replacing it, be sure to get an Octalink version 1 with a spindle length of 109.5mm, because that's what the BB-6500 is. The ISIS bottom brackets or the Octalink version 2 may look similar but they are not interchangeable. New Octalink version 1 bottom brackets (includes Dura Ace, Ultegra and 105 models) are getting quite hard to find now and may be quite expensive if available. eBay has used ones cheap but the condition may be iffy. If your current one spins fine, a little surface rust shouldn't deter you from reinstalling and continuing to enjoy its service. -B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grip King/ MKS Lambda pedal spikes
David, I installed spikes in my GKs, but didn't need to tap them - can't recall the bit size I used. I do know that the first hole was slightly too big (maybe what happened to you?) I went down a size, and they all went in fine, and I haven't lost a spike in over a year. IIRC, I used a small metric socket to drive them home. They work great - esp. in the wet. Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My new AHH and it's maiden shakedown ride.
Cool. Really cool. Thanks, Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: An-Atomica saddles for Clyde
RL, Angle Lake Cyclery, near the SEATAC airport (Seattle) has been a big time dealer. It's an LBS, and he doesn't typically do mail order, but if you're striking out you could try giving him a call. He's a good dude, and also an Alex Moulton dealer. Interesting shop. http://www.anglelakecycle.com/ Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: I'll be in Chicago for the next eight days
All - Thanks for the input. I should be able to burn up several evenings and a weekend with these recommendations! Gino On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Erik C erikdcarl...@gmail.com wrote: Head to Logan Square and grab some brunch at Lula's and visit Boulevard Bikes next door. They had a nice Heron hanging from the ceiling last time I was in there. http://www.boulevardbikeshop.com/ Wicker Park/Bucktown is always an interesting neighborhood to check out. Rapid Transit bike shop is in that neighborhood. Both of these places are off the Blue line on the CTA. Logan Square stop and the Damon stop. Each neighborhood also has its share of bars and Wicker Park has plenty of small art galleries. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I'll be in Chicago for the next eight days
What should I not miss in Chicago? Interests: art, architecture, museums, bike shops/builders, local beer/food, bookstores, interesting neighborhoods, dive bars, good places to run. I have all next weekend to do whatever, so I'm looking to fill up those days. The weather has been pretty good and, if that continues, do an architectural tour by boat, on the river. The Museum of Contemporary Art is a good half-day visit if you like modern, otherwise the Art Institute is a more complete collection (and an interesting building). I agree the Shedd and the Museum of Science and Industry are worthwhile. The view from the Hancock Observatory at sunset is amazing. You can run for quite a ways along the lake. With the weather getting nice, that's likely to be crowded. Grant Park has many interesting things to see. Lincoln Park is very nice, especially the conservatory. Of course, if you really want an interesting trip, hop on the Amtrak Hiawatha and come on up to Milwaukee. Unfortunately, I'm leaving town in a couple of days so won't be able to host you. Waterford is a relatively easy drive (around an hour and a half, maybe a bit more) from Chicago. If you can get there, it's worth a visit, but unfortunately it's not accessible by train. If you were to bring a bike, it would be a pretty easy combo train/bike trip. Ted Durant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Grip King/ MKS Lambda pedal spikes
I used a 7/64 bit (half way between the 3/32 and 1/8 recommended by RBW. The spikes that stayed in are tight. I have checked and think I would have a difficult time removing them to re-thread. I really think my mistake was not getting them started straight. Two that fell out were in the extreme outboard holes where I had a previous pedal strike on pavement that had deformed the lip and probably pretty much guaranteed that I would start them crooked. I am not suggesting that secure installation requires tapping. Just another option. A little more complicated, but not that expensive if you leave out the new vice grip. David amoll68 wrote: David, I installed spikes in my GKs, but didn't need to tap them - can't recall the bit size I used. I do know that the first hole was slightly too big (maybe what happened to you?) I went down a size, and they all went in fine, and I haven't lost a spike in over a year. IIRC, I used a small metric socket to drive them home. They work great - esp. in the wet. Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My new AHH and it's maiden shakedown ride.
great job on the Hilsen! somethin' about those Rivys with some fat knobbies just makes me all tingly. You guys rode some pretty techy stuff at Fruita and made it look easy. More reasons for me to sell off that 29er and get a Hunqua with Mustache bars. ~Mike~ On May 3, 7:02 pm, amoll68 amol...@comcast.net wrote: Cool. Really cool. Thanks, Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed
I'll want to see the finished product but I like it better. Also he mentioned the next batch of Sam's... side pulls in big sizes and Canti equipped Waterford built frames too. ~Mike~ On May 3, 5:47 pm, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Hey, Looks like a Joe Breeze mountain bike from 1978 or so. On May 3, 2010, at 3:54 PM, William wrote: The Hunqapage on the Rivsite now has a photo of the design sheet for the Diagonal 2TT. http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/hunqapillar/50-713 In related news, Grant's post about the ropeswing says that the 54 is now built and being ridden. http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/236 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: I'll be in Chicago for the next eight days
Check out if the Museum of Science and Industry has a reciprocal arrangement with any museums in your area. I know that they do with the STL Science Center (my town), which with the discount on tickets just about pays for a one year membership at the STL Science Center. If you want to check out tall buildings, the Hancock center is better than the Sears tower. Plus, you can get in for free-ish. Go for the cocktail lounge on the 94th floor. While standing in line, duck out to go to the bathroom. Floor to ceiling windows in the bathroom and no admission fee. It's been ages since I've been up there as a tourist, so I've forgotten all the cool things to do. What part of town are you staying in? --dlloyd -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Diagonapillar blueprints revealed
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 15:54, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: The Hunqapage on the Rivsite now has a photo of the design sheet for the Diagonal 2TT. http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/hunqapillar/50-713 Interesting. I kind of like it, even though I didn't expect to. Do I see a palimpsest of a third set of stays between the dropout and the back of the 2tt? James Black Los Angeles, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I'll be in Chicago for the next eight days
Weekdays around 10:00 to 3:00 or so, the lake front trail is not so crowded. No better urban place to run than the lake front when not crowded. Check out: http://caf.architecture.org/Page.aspx?pid=183 for architecture tours. Green Zebra is one of the best vegetarian restaurants going. If you go to the Museum of Science and Industry, the Seminary Co-Op Bookstore is only a few blocks away. Among the best book stores for scholarly tomes anywhere: http://www.semcoop.com/ (it is in a University of Chicago building, after all - although not affiliated with the UofC) Boulevard Bike is great. Owner Kevin is a great guy. Loves bike and knows a lot. His employees have all been around for a while. Intelligentsia coffee has two outlets downtown - Randolph and Michigan (across from millenium park) and Jackson and Dearborn (in the marvelous Monadnock building - 100 year old but as cool and modern as anything made this century) On May 3, 5:58 pm, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks - What should I not miss in Chicago? Interests: art, architecture, museums, bike shops/builders, local beer/food, bookstores, interesting neighborhoods, dive bars, good places to run. I have all next weekend to do whatever, so I'm looking to fill up those days. And, if you want to hang/get a beer, let me know OFF LIST. Thanks for any tips! -Gino -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Diagonapillar blueprints revealed
Glad I have my Bombadil... gladder now! I liked the concept better when it was like a Yves or Betty with a top tube with a long diagonal. Now, it just seems to me the front triangle is split and doesn't quite flow with the rear triangle... Anyway, I'm glad it won't be confused with a Bombadil... :-) Will wait to see what the final bikes look like. I once thought Rivendell bikes were ugly and look at me now... like we say in Venezuela... ¡Nunca digas que de esta agua no beberé! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: My new AHH and it's maiden shakedown ride.
WONDERFUL! Mind of matter you know!!! How is the DD stem working? It looks perfect! On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: great job on the Hilsen! somethin' about those Rivys with some fat knobbies just makes me all tingly. You guys rode some pretty techy stuff at Fruita and made it look easy. More reasons for me to sell off that 29er and get a Hunqua with Mustache bars. ~Mike~ On May 3, 7:02 pm, amoll68 amol...@comcast.net wrote: Cool. Really cool. Thanks, Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Diagonapillar blueprints revealed
on 5/3/10 5:47 PM, James Valiensi at valie...@mac.com wrote: Looks like a Joe Breeze mountain bike from 1978 or so. Similar, but rather different - http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/195767142/ - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com Steel's what you want for a messenger bike. Weight. Big basket up front. Not cardboard with some crazy aramid shit wrapped around it, weighs about as much as a sandwich. -- William Gibson, Virtual Light -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Schwin Le Tour Mixte Project Finished! kinda.
A couple of weeks ago I had a issue with the brakes on this pink mixte. Going from 27 tires to 650b tires made the brake pads a hair short of reaching the rim. Thanks to the wisdom and no how of the group I was able to file it down and make the brake pads fit. Also thanks to Cycles of Change I was able to find the long straddle cable for the rear brake. Presented the bike to my girlfriend and she likes it. She wants to put a hello kitty sticker on it, I want to put Resurrectio Decals. But for now the bike is semi done. Just needs a front basket and maybe a rear rack. Thanks for everyone for the great advice! http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157623789349209/ -Manny Pink is good Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed
I once thought Rivendell bikes were ugly and look at me now... like we say in Venezuela... ¡Nunca digas que de esta agua no beberé! And I, like usual, find myself thinking the opposite...saying that without knowing spanish, but longing for the pre-double-toptube days. No disrespect intended, Rob Markwardt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Schwin Le Tour Mixte Project Finished! kinda.
I was just looking at your pics on the flickr and thinking it needed some Resurrecto decals! :-) How bout a mix and match of those and Hello Kitty On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:14 PM, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: A couple of weeks ago I had a issue with the brakes on this pink mixte. Going from 27 tires to 650b tires made the brake pads a hair short of reaching the rim. Thanks to the wisdom and no how of the group I was able to file it down and make the brake pads fit. Also thanks to Cycles of Change I was able to find the long straddle cable for the rear brake. Presented the bike to my girlfriend and she likes it. She wants to put a hello kitty sticker on it, I want to put Resurrectio Decals. But for now the bike is semi done. Just needs a front basket and maybe a rear rack. Thanks for everyone for the great advice! http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157623789349209/ -Manny Pink is good Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.