[RBW] Waxing the chain?
I found this from an old Rivendell Reader: http://www.recumbentblog.com/images/rivendell-1992-wax.pdf In fall og early winter it rains quite often where I live, and the chain picks up a lot af dirt and gravel which works like a good grinding paste. Not good. I guess that the wax will wash out earlier in these conditions, but would it be a good idea to have two chains and just clean and shift one a week using the wax method? I commute around 150 miles each week. And normally maintain bike in the weekends only. I think my question is, if the benifits of waxing the chain will be present for 150 miles in wet conditions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Davis Double 5-15-2010 - a set on Flickr
Manny, you can't give it 100% approval. There are no panda shots in the whole group! Eric, congrats. I bet the weather was perfecto. On May 16, 7:59 am, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Crazy 202 miles! Great Job On May 16, 7:55 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Yes, different group for the most part. A double is viewed as more of a sprint--get a fast bike and finish as quickly as possible. I rode my Sachs mostly because it doesn't get ridden enough. --Eric Sent from my iPad On May 16, 2010, at 7:51 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Eric, the bikes on this ride appear much different than the bikes on brevets. Many more low spoke and crabon bikes than the steel and generator set up, at least to my untrained eye. Is that just because it's considered short or does it attract a different crowd (or both)? Is there much overlap of the two groups, or do the species not typically intermingle. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: How I spent my Saturday--202 miles aboard my Riv Road. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623944822411/ Captions coming after I have some breakfast! --Eric Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
I am curious...what do you mean, 'it rides big'? And, with the bag sitting up high like that, what do you do for lights? Finally. what is the 'feel' of the shellacked tape? On May 16, 5:25 am, Blindrobert roberto.cipri...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to say that I tried this and I am very pleased with the results, after a year of use. I followed the instructions on the Riv site and it worked out perfectly. I have to say that it looks better after time than any cork or synthetic tape I have used. The bike is Frances Cycles custom fixtonneur that I had made, sizing is in the Riv/Grant philosophy (it rides big and I like it that way) - this is my city bike/commuter now. I love it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/blindrobert/3729507832/sizes/l/http://www.flickr.com/photos/blindrobert/3729507100/sizes/l/http://www.flickr.com/photos/blindrobert/3728706127/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
On May 14, 1:21 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Comp are THE best brakes made in the world these days. -my next ride is going with Racer-canti, What is the Paul Racer-canti? I don't see it on the Paul website. the Bleriot is set for Racer- bolts, and Chloe's new LHT is going to get the Neo/Touring combo soon- What issues are there with the straight Neo setup? The Paul website says: -- Also, the arms stick out a lot! For smaller frames, bikes with bags, and people with HUGE feet there can be some interference problems -- http://www.paulcomp.com/neoretro.html So if you have panniers on the front, somehow the brakes will interfere with the panniers? Or is that just the rear brake? Same with big feet? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
On May 13, 11:38 pm, Paul Price p...@paulcomp.com wrote: Hey- Thanks for that. We're pretty proud of our brakes. Hi Paul, Do you have any pictures on your website that compare 'silver anodized' to 'high polish'? Or, can you direct me to pictures of each type? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Davis Double 5-15-2010 - a set on Flickr
On May 16, 8:03 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: How I spent my Saturday--202 miles aboard my Riv Road. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623944822411/ Captions coming after I have some breakfast! --- My 27th Davis Double, and it turned out to be a fine day. --- Holy smokes. Is it held 3 times a year??!! Congratulations! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Waxing the chain?
I think h20 pretty much immediately washes out wax. I wax my chains as I hate chain grease, but live in the land of no water. If I were you, I wouldn't mess with it. Just stick w/ Boeshield or similar. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Teit teit.jen...@gmail.com wrote: I found this from an old Rivendell Reader: http://www.recumbentblog.com/images/rivendell-1992-wax.pdf In fall og early winter it rains quite often where I live, and the chain picks up a lot af dirt and gravel which works like a good grinding paste. Not good. I guess that the wax will wash out earlier in these conditions, but would it be a good idea to have two chains and just clean and shift one a week using the wax method? I commute around 150 miles each week. And normally maintain bike in the weekends only. I think my question is, if the benifits of waxing the chain will be present for 150 miles in wet conditions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Waxing the chain?
I would think that wax should be relatively water proof (waxed cotton etc...) I have used a couple of waxed chains in the past and they stayed cleaner than most. I don't live in a hugely rainy place. Angus On May 16, 3:57 am, Teit teit.jen...@gmail.com wrote: I found this from an old Rivendell Reader:http://www.recumbentblog.com/images/rivendell-1992-wax.pdf In fall og early winter it rains quite often where I live, and the chain picks up a lot af dirt and gravel which works like a good grinding paste. Not good. I guess that the wax will wash out earlier in these conditions, but would it be a good idea to have two chains and just clean and shift one a week using the wax method? I commute around 150 miles each week. And normally maintain bike in the weekends only. I think my question is, if the benifits of waxing the chain will be present for 150 miles in wet conditions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
By rides big I just mean that it is sized more traditionally with just a little seatpost showing and handlebars close to level with the saddle. On a modern racing frame, I would ride a 60cm bike and in fact the bikes I use at the velodrome are that size; this bike has a 63cm seat tube. For lights, I usually just put my petzl headlamp around the bag and turn it on. I have lots of bikes, and I ride them all, so moveable lights are more useful to me than fixed lights. Though, for touring, I use a dynamo front hub and wired light. I mostly use this bike for commuting and city riding - I do sometimes ride up on the curves and it is comfortable for short distances. I always wear padded gloves, so I don't need much cushioning beyond that. The shellaced cloth tape is very grippy, even when it's wet. The cork grips are comfortable, I suspect they would be even more comfortable if I shortened my stem and sat a little more upright. I tend to ride a bit aggressively in traffic and that usually means leaning forward and pushing a pretty good clip. Roberto On May 16, 1:46 pm, CR Masterson crmaster...@gmail.com wrote: I am curious...what do you mean, 'it rides big'? And, with the bag sitting up high like that, what do you do for lights? Finally. what is the 'feel' of the shellacked tape? On May 16, 5:25 am, Blindrobert roberto.cipri...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to say that I tried this and I am very pleased with the results, after a year of use. I followed the instructions on the Riv site and it worked out perfectly. I have to say that it looks better after time than any cork or synthetic tape I have used. The bike is Frances Cycles custom fixtonneur that I had made, sizing is in the Riv/Grant philosophy (it rides big and I like it that way) - this is my city bike/commuter now. I love it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/blindrobert/3729507832/sizes/l/http://ww... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 20:07 -0700, happyriding wrote: On May 13, 11:38 pm, Paul Price p...@paulcomp.com wrote: Hey- Thanks for that. We're pretty proud of our brakes. Hi Paul, Do you have any pictures on your website that compare 'silver anodized' to 'high polish'? Or, can you direct me to pictures of each type? High polish looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/2668209327/sizes/o/in/set-72157606169015639/ Silver anodized looks like this: http://paulcomp.com/images/racermain.png -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 19:21 -0700, happyriding wrote: On May 14, 1:21 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Comp are THE best brakes made in the world these days. -my next ride is going with Racer-canti, What is the Paul Racer-canti? I don't see it on the Paul website. He must mean the brazed-on post model. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bombadill fork crown braze ons?
I see some (not all) Bomba's have braze ons on the top of their fork crown like last gen Kogswell P/R's. Is Riv offering a rack that mounts there I wonder? Was this a running change or can you specify when ordering? You can see them on this Bomba that's on ebay (outing-not affiliated, etc) and on some of the 'dills in the Riv pics. (but not all!) http://cgi.ebay.com/Rivendell-Bombadil-Touring-Mountain-650B-Frame-/200473386188?cmd=ViewItempt=Road_Bikeshash=item2ead251ccc Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Another camera to shoot your Riv with
Very nice! I just bought the Hipstamatic app last week. As a cyclist, I was also compelled to buy the Pprtland expansion pack :-) Have you also tried Camerabag? --Eric Sent from my iPad On May 16, 2010, at 9:40 PM, jose jose.cor...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that the dreamy analog touch of some iphone photography apps goes well with the dreamy analog touch of my Rivendell. :) Here are some shots I took today exploring the bayou paths downtown on my Atlantis: http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/sets/72157623951607973/ Some shots were taken with Hipstamatic and some with ShakeItPhoto. I think the saying The best camera is the one you got definitely applies to my iphone. But in addition to the convenience factor, there's also a fun factor that sometimes trumps all the megapixels of my fancier cameras. Maybe I have a liking for that analog look because that's what my childhood pictures are in, or perhaps its a hardwired preference similar to liking Impressionist paintings. I dunno, but I dig it. I realize some of you may scoff at the idea of techy fake analog. I think GP himself may not even do digital. But for those you shooting entirely digital yet find the analog look appealing, here's another option. Have fun, -- J. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Brooks B-17's wearing out
On May 16, 7:10 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Several of my B-17's are showing significant wear, turning into hatchets. What does the list recommend for replacements, something substantially similar that doesn't wear out so fast for us Clydes? just an FYI - Bilenky Cycle Works is now the official Brooks repair shop in the U.S. i have no idea what, if anything, can be done to repair the saddles, but it may be worth a call. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks B-17's wearing out
On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 06:43 -0700, Patrick in VT wrote: On May 16, 7:10 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Several of my B-17's are showing significant wear, turning into hatchets. What does the list recommend for replacements, something substantially similar that doesn't wear out so fast for us Clydes? just an FYI - Bilenky Cycle Works is now the official Brooks repair shop in the U.S. i have no idea what, if anything, can be done to repair the saddles, but it may be worth a call. Just out of curiosity, have you tried retensioning the leather and lacing the sides? http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.sherman/brooks.html http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/components/brooks-blocking.html http://www.ehow.com/how_5759709_restore-brooks-saddle.html http://highsnobiety.com/columns/jeffcarvalho/2008/09/23/how-to-lace-a-brooks-saddle/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Davis Double 5-15-2010 - a set on Flickr
On May 16, 11:53 am, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: Rides like the Davis Double are fully supported, no need to carry more food or water than needed to get to the next rest stop. Brevets are self-supported, so randonneurs tend to carry more baggage, and their bikes are built up accordingly. well, yes and no. no? on a nice day, there's not much reason to carry baggage on a 200-300k brevet. distance between controls in my region are typically 40 miles on average, and most riders choose to refuel at the controls rather than carry their own food. it's really not much different than a supported ride. accordingly, most folks are on road bikes with bike jerseys and a small seatpouch to carry what they need. i start to notice more rando bikes (i.e., road bikes w/ bags, maybe fenders) on distances of 400k+. or, of course, if it's raining or there is some other weather to contend with. but even on a 600k, one might have the advantage of using a drop bag, so you don't have to carry *that* much. a big handlebar bag or medium saddlebag should cover it. that said, I couldn't believe how little some folks were carrying on the PA 1200k (which I DNF'd) - no bags at all. and it was cold and wet. and they finished. anyway, there's also the event attitude that Esteban seems to be referring to - the triple crown series sounds like it brings out a different type of rider than a brevet series. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] fixing leather saddles
Saddle stuffing works great, preemptively or resurrectingly. I've healed eight or nine saddles this way, and ... it's in the current RR, or the one before. On a horse, you have the horse blanket under the leather, so no sag/stretch possible. On a bike saddle, nothing but air. Fill the air with stuff-ing. Foam. We have some, but we're not a source, can't be mailing chunks of foam for free all day long...but when you understand the concept, you'll find a local solution. It is..totally a good way to go. It will quadruple the life, I bet. For Selle An-Atomicas, it's the only way to go. -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Works www.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] splat-'onnection in back
Manny said: Rivendell's shoe contraption is quite smart! I laughed about it at first but I can see myself using these on hikes or muddy bike rides. I'm curious about the heel straping, and how it's connected. THe first sample laces like a shoe. We'll go with something faster-easier-, maybe one eyelet on each side, and adjustable with cord-lock. Not sure, but have time to work it out. These will also keep foxtails and tics out of sox. The design may be too simple for public acceptance, though. -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Works www.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bombadill fork crown braze ons?
The rack mounts on the fork crown are for mounting any rear rack (for example a Nitto R14) on the front. Pretty awesome IMHO. On May 17, 8:46 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: I see some (not all) Bomba's have braze ons on the top of their fork crown like last gen Kogswell P/R's. Is Riv offering a rack that mounts there I wonder? Was this a running change or can you specify when ordering? You can see them on this Bomba that's on ebay (outing-not affiliated, etc) and on some of the 'dills in the Riv pics. (but not all!) http://cgi.ebay.com/Rivendell-Bombadil-Touring-Mountain-650B-Frame-/2... Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Bombadill fork crown braze ons?
on 5/17/10 5:46 AM, Frederick, Steve at frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: I see some (not all) Bomba's have braze ons on the top of their fork crown like last gen Kogswell P/R's. Is Riv offering a rack that mounts there I wonder? Was this a running change or can you specify when ordering? The fork crown threading was on the first prototypes which I saw. http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc452-bombadilproto0208.html I don't know of an RBW-offered factory rack which currently uses that connection. Like few of the braze-ons on the Bomba, I think they are stressing the possible. That attachment point definitely shows up on various other rack designs. You can see them on this Bomba that's on ebay (outing-not affiliated, etc) and on some of the 'dills in the Riv pics. (but not all!) The only one that I've noticed that _doesn't_ have the threaded fork crown is the blue one, which seems to look as if it has been plugged (look at the sweeping chevrons - there's a dot there that would suggest it). - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Current Classics Bicycle Photo Gallery - http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc Cross Bike Photo Gallery - http://www.cyclofiend.com/cx Single Speed Garage Photo Gallery - http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg Working Bikes Practical Hardware - http://www.cyclofiend.com/working Work Shops of the iBob's - http://www.cyclofiend.com/shop Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines That which is overdesigned, too highly specific, anticipates outcome; the anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace. William Gibson - All Tomorrow's Parties -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Waxing the chain?
I wax my chains do so on my Atlantis just before each tour. I can't recall the chain ever squeaking or given other indication of lack of lube. A tour a couple of years ago was in the fall we had rain quite frequently, often heavy. You won't know how it works for you unless you give it a try. It's a simple, inexpensive experiment not nearly as much trouble as people suggest. dougP On May 17, 2:59 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I would think that wax should be relatively water proof (waxed cotton etc...) I have used a couple of waxed chains in the past and they stayed cleaner than most. I don't live in a hugely rainy place. Angus On May 16, 3:57 am, Teit teit.jen...@gmail.com wrote: I found this from an old Rivendell Reader:http://www.recumbentblog.com/images/rivendell-1992-wax.pdf In fall og early winter it rains quite often where I live, and the chain picks up a lot af dirt and gravel which works like a good grinding paste. Not good. I guess that the wax will wash out earlier in these conditions, but would it be a good idea to have two chains and just clean and shift one a week using the wax method? I commute around 150 miles each week. And normally maintain bike in the weekends only. I think my question is, if the benifits of waxing the chain will be present for 150 miles in wet conditions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Another camera to shoot your Riv with
on 5/16/10 9:40 PM, jose at jose.cor...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that the dreamy analog touch of some iphone photography apps goes well with the dreamy analog touch of my Rivendell. :) Here are some shots I took today exploring the bayou paths downtown on my Atlantis: http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/sets/72157623951607973/ Some shots were taken with Hipstamatic and some with ShakeItPhoto. I think the saying The best camera is the one you got definitely applies to my iphone. But in addition to the convenience factor, there's also a fun factor that sometimes trumps all the megapixels of my fancier cameras. Maybe I have a liking for that analog look because that's what my childhood pictures are in, or perhaps its a hardwired preference similar to liking Impressionist paintings. I dunno, but I dig it. I realize some of you may scoff at the idea of techy fake analog. I think GP himself may not even do digital. Hard to argue against those images. Really nice stuff! - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com That which is overdesigned, too highly specific, anticipates outcome; the anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace. William Gibson - All Tomorrow's Parties -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Waxing the chain?
On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 08:18 -0700, doug peterson wrote: I wax my chains do so on my Atlantis just before each tour. I can't recall the chain ever squeaking or given other indication of lack of lube. A tour a couple of years ago was in the fall we had rain quite frequently, often heavy. You won't know how it works for you unless you give it a try. It's a simple, inexpensive experiment not nearly as much trouble as people suggest. I tried waxing the chain once, on my commuter. Next morning it began raining as I was riding to work. I got 0.1 mi down the road and the chain began squeaking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Waxing the chain?
I've found that if you stew the chain in the melted wax for half an hour the chain won't squeak as quickly as it does if you keep it in for just a few minutes. Half an hour is not a period scientifically determined, but it does work better than five minutes. Stewing -- this also keeps the chain from stretching; must affect the molecules in a good way. So stew it before you give up on it. And, finally, an old crockpot with your neighbors' old ornamental candle ends works very well. I put a small grate on the bottom to keep the chain off of the dirt that sinks to the bottom of the pot, and simply toss the chain onto the cold wax and turn it on high and walk away, coming back in half an hour or more. Haven't burned anything down yet. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 08:18 -0700, doug peterson wrote: I wax my chains do so on my Atlantis just before each tour. I can't recall the chain ever squeaking or given other indication of lack of lube. A tour a couple of years ago was in the fall we had rain quite frequently, often heavy. You won't know how it works for you unless you give it a try. It's a simple, inexpensive experiment not nearly as much trouble as people suggest. I tried waxing the chain once, on my commuter. Next morning it began raining as I was riding to work. I got 0.1 mi down the road and the chain began squeaking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Venturing Crew 999 S240
Venturing Crew 999 went on an overnight/biking trip to Grant Ranch. Some arrived by car, others by bike.Those crazy enough to biked with me to Grant Ranch climbed over 1000 feet of elevation over San Jose. They were constantly lied too about how much further it was till we descended, not because I wanted to give them false hope, but because I totally forgot how long the road was. Mr.Smith and Mrs. Salcedo drove the rest of the venturers to set up camp ahead of us. At camp we had burgers, hot dogs, pork meat balls and the classic camping food of all time, Balut! For those not familiar, Balut is a Filipino dish, which is basically fetal duck egg. The next day the crew took shuttle runs to the top of Mt. Hamiliton and rode bikes down from the top with Mr.Taube and Mr.Smith. For those biking down 4000+ feet of elevation topping over 30+ mph they needed nerves of steel and amazing coordination to make it down in one piece. On the way back home those daring went with on a mountain biking trail back to LCPA with me. Starting from the park entrance I took them up Halls Valley Trail, then taking Washburn Trail down. Plenty of climbing and bumpy descents, mixed in with a couple of spills made it a life changing moment for the three young men that joined me. Despite the big focus on biking, it was more of a bonding experience for themselves, to see how much they can push their bodies and minds to that limit and to go further. This is the type of learning that can't be taught in a classroom!Congrats and thanks goes to all the advisors and venturers who made the trip amazing! Also big thanks to Mr.Rodriguez, Mr.Smith and Cycles of Change for loaning bikes for the trip! - Manny It's just one more ridge Acosta Pictures can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157624071866620/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: bar ends for woodies?
Ritchey makes a bar end for bars with more sweep--the clamps are angled so that they don't stick outward. I had a set on some 17-degree sweep bars I used to run and they worked pretty well. I don't know how much sweep the Bull Moose bars have but from pics it looks like at least that much. They are just basic black barends so no aesthetic match for your woodies. I suppose you could cover them in leather or something... They're not Riv-ish but I have a spare set--contact me off list if you'd like to try them. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of andrew hill Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 10:07 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: bar ends for woodies? yeah, you are right - M-bars would provide more positions, but i didn't fall in love with them on an XO-1 i had.. and i get at least 2 positions from the bull moose.. but just not a bar-endy one. the mtn-bike bar ends are what i mean - or even the little stubby ovals that bolt on perpendicular, although with the swept back angle either of those might not really work - not sure. best, andrew On May 16, 2010, at 4:26 AM, Johnny Alien wrote: I think he means mountain bike style bar ends like these: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31uaJgWGd1L._SL500_AA300_.jpg THe answer is to get a set of Mustache bars and sell me that Bullmoose set. :) Seriously though I think the Mustache bars will provide more positions and you can still use the wood grips. On May 15, 2:18 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: A natural cork might do the job, or a rubber Velox plug. On May 14, 9:04 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: i've got a Sam with emwoodied bullmoose bars.. thinking some bar-ends might make sense for an upcoming century. it's a mostly flat one, but just for the hand position variation... but i don't want to totally destroy the old-skool woody look.. so anyone know of bar ends that are wooden? :) or maybe can suggest something that would aesthetically work well to add a hand position or two, and replace that aged-copper colored plug/cap that come with the woodies? cheers, andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] duluth pack
Hey everyone, I noticed yesterday that Duluth Pack is making bike bags again. Panniers, a bar tube, and a hobo--but the hobo is set up to be a saddle bag instead of a bar bag. The straps are on the wrong side of the zipper. I shot them an email asking if they could do a bar version. Anyway, looks like the old Riv design for the most part. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bombadill fork crown braze ons?
These are standard braze-ons for the Bombadil. For the Atlantis, it was a running change for later models. There's no specific rack for these, just another mounting option for some of the Nitto's, like Mark's rack . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] splat-'onnection in back
on 5/17/10 7:56 AM, Grant Petersen at gr...@rivbike.com wrote: THe first sample laces like a shoe. We'll go with something faster-easier-, maybe one eyelet on each side, and adjustable with cord-lock. Not sure, but have time to work it out. These will also keep foxtails and tics out of sox. The design may be too simple for public acceptance, though. I think it's pretty inspired. After another winter of yet again finding that another waterproof shoe cover I bought wasn't, these have caught my attention. For me, my old neoprene booties are the only ones which were mostly waterproof, but they made/make my feet hellishly hot under most conditions. Plus, you end up sweating enough to offset any water-shedding effects. These S.P.L.A.T.S (me thinks: Strategically Placed Layers Against The Spray) are interesting. Vented from below to keep air moving around. Waterproof atop where you need it. The permeable spot would be at the ankle joint, as water tends to run down your shins when it's really raining. But, I'm willing to try them... - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Workshops of the iBob's Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines My nighttime attitude is anyone can run you down and get away with it. That's why I don't even own a bike light or one of those godawful reflective suits. Because if you've put yourself in a position where someone has to see you in order for you to be safe...you've already blown it. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] duluth pack
Link? On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:20 AM, scott clankbonesh...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, I noticed yesterday that Duluth Pack is making bike bags again. Panniers, a bar tube, and a hobo--but the hobo is set up to be a saddle bag instead of a bar bag. The straps are on the wrong side of the zipper. I shot them an email asking if they could do a bar version. Anyway, looks like the old Riv design for the most part. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: duluth pack
http://duluthpack.com/outdoor-gear/biking On May 17, 11:47 am, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Link? On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:20 AM, scott clankbonesh...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, I noticed yesterday that Duluth Pack is making bike bags again. Panniers, a bar tube, and a hobo--but the hobo is set up to be a saddle bag instead of a bar bag. The straps are on the wrong side of the zipper. I shot them an email asking if they could do a bar version. Anyway, looks like the old Riv design for the most part. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
Blindrobert wrote, in part: ...the fender was not effective once I got up over 14mph or so I similarly cropped the rear fender on my Rawland Olaf singlespeed/fixie and found it similarly ineffective. Since I was using SKS fenders, I just used the quick release attachments that comes with SKS front fenders on the rear too and that works well enough for wheel removal... Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: bar ends for woodies?
I don't know of any mass produced woodie bar ends, but they might not be hard to make...get a dowel of comfortable diameter, cut them down to the length you want, miter the end so it ends up at a good angle even with the backsweep on the bullmoose, then think of some kind of attachment. Maybe some kind of hose clamp, or the band from an old pair of (road) brake levers with a bolt going into the wood? You may even be able to do it with some creative lashing...leather cord, or good old twine 'n shellac? On May 16, 7:07 am, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: yeah, you are right - M-bars would provide more positions, but i didn't fall in love with them on an XO-1 i had.. and i get at least 2 positions from the bull moose.. but just not a bar-endy one. the mtn-bike bar ends are what i mean - or even the little stubby ovals that bolt on perpendicular, although with the swept back angle either of those might not really work - not sure. best, andrew On May 16, 2010, at 4:26 AM, Johnny Alien wrote: I think he means mountain bike style bar ends like these: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31uaJgWGd1L._SL500_AA300_.jpg THe answer is to get a set of Mustache bars and sell me that Bullmoose set. :) Seriously though I think the Mustache bars will provide more positions and you can still use the wood grips. On May 15, 2:18 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: A natural cork might do the job, or a rubber Velox plug. On May 14, 9:04 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: i've got a Sam with emwoodied bullmoose bars.. thinking some bar-ends might make sense for an upcoming century. it's a mostly flat one, but just for the hand position variation... but i don't want to totally destroy the old-skool woody look.. so anyone know of bar ends that are wooden? :) or maybe can suggest something that would aesthetically work well to add a hand position or two, and replace that aged-copper colored plug/cap that come with the woodies? cheers, andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: Michelin 650b tires
Looking to buy some new old stock 650b Michelin Megamium or Axial Raid tires. I'm looking for a 650b x 28c tire for randonneuring. I've had great luck with the Michelins but my supply is dwindling and I'd like to swap out tires before my June 1000k. Here's my 650b riv on my most recent brevet, the SIR 400k http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/4614189660/ Let me know if you have any you'd like to sell. Thanks, Lesli Larson Eugene, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Waxing the chain?
In my opinion, the key step in those instructions is starting with an absolutely clean chain. Bare metal clean. Then your results ought to be very good. On May 17, 8:34 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that if you stew the chain in the melted wax for half an hour the chain won't squeak as quickly as it does if you keep it in for just a few minutes. Half an hour is not a period scientifically determined, but it does work better than five minutes. Stewing -- this also keeps the chain from stretching; must affect the molecules in a good way. So stew it before you give up on it. And, finally, an old crockpot with your neighbors' old ornamental candle ends works very well. I put a small grate on the bottom to keep the chain off of the dirt that sinks to the bottom of the pot, and simply toss the chain onto the cold wax and turn it on high and walk away, coming back in half an hour or more. Haven't burned anything down yet. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 08:18 -0700, doug peterson wrote: I wax my chains do so on my Atlantis just before each tour. I can't recall the chain ever squeaking or given other indication of lack of lube. A tour a couple of years ago was in the fall we had rain quite frequently, often heavy. You won't know how it works for you unless you give it a try. It's a simple, inexpensive experiment not nearly as much trouble as people suggest. I tried waxing the chain once, on my commuter. Next morning it began raining as I was riding to work. I got 0.1 mi down the road and the chain began squeaking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Venturing Crew 999 S240
Great shots and looks like an excellent adventure. Not entirely sure about the fetal duck egg dinner, but I have an open mind on such topics. On May 17, 11:37 am, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Venturing Crew 999 went on an overnight/biking trip to Grant Ranch. Some arrived by car, others by bike.Those crazy enough to biked with me to Grant Ranch climbed over 1000 feet of elevation over San Jose. They were constantly lied too about how much further it was till we descended, not because I wanted to give them false hope, but because I totally forgot how long the road was. Mr.Smith and Mrs. Salcedo drove the rest of the venturers to set up camp ahead of us. At camp we had burgers, hot dogs, pork meat balls and the classic camping food of all time, Balut! For those not familiar, Balut is a Filipino dish, which is basically fetal duck egg. The next day the crew took shuttle runs to the top of Mt. Hamiliton and rode bikes down from the top with Mr.Taube and Mr.Smith. For those biking down 4000+ feet of elevation topping over 30+ mph they needed nerves of steel and amazing coordination to make it down in one piece. On the way back home those daring went with on a mountain biking trail back to LCPA with me. Starting from the park entrance I took them up Halls Valley Trail, then taking Washburn Trail down. Plenty of climbing and bumpy descents, mixed in with a couple of spills made it a life changing moment for the three young men that joined me. Despite the big focus on biking, it was more of a bonding experience for themselves, to see how much they can push their bodies and minds to that limit and to go further. This is the type of learning that can't be taught in a classroom!Congrats and thanks goes to all the advisors and venturers who made the trip amazing! Also big thanks to Mr.Rodriguez, Mr.Smith and Cycles of Change for loaning bikes for the trip! - Manny It's just one more ridge Acosta Pictures can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157624071866620/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Waxing the chain?
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:10 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion, the key step in those instructions is starting with an absolutely clean chain. Bare metal clean. Then your results ought to be very good. I politely beg to differ. IME, when you dunk your chain, clean or dirty, into your wax and let it stew (tm), said wax not only trickles, flows, insinuates, permeates and penetrates into the tiny, intimate orifices (hhhm) but, in so doing, washes, carries away and lustralizes the afflicting dirt and contamination. Just let it stew (tm). Oh, and I think that stewing prevent chain stretch because it cooks the molecules and makes them tougher. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
Yep, I do. As in, Cantilever Posts which are brazed-on. -Scott On May 17, 4:27 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 19:21 -0700, happyriding wrote: On May 14, 1:21 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Comp are THE best brakes made in the world these days. -my next ride is going with Racer-canti, What is the Paul Racer-canti? I don't see it on the Paul website. He must mean the brazed-on post model. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Cycle Salt Lake Century
Enjoyed a wonderful century ride on my new Sam on Saturday, complete with a mini-front rack, small Trunksack and fenders. Salt Lake City is not a lugged-steel hot spot and I saw only one other Rivendell (Atlantis with albatross bars?), a Heron, and a fellow on an RB-1 who seemed to appreciate that he had a very nice bike but didn't realize it was a classic. Lots of curious riders came over to ogle the Sam at the rest stops and I answered many questions about what kind of bike it was, its intended purpose (everything!), whether I had restored an old touring bike, and whether the Brooks saddle hurt (I've been hearing that question for years). I think most people presumed I was riding it for the novelty and they seemed surprised that this is my only bike (hopefully not for long--A.H.H. whispers to me in dreams). As some of you know I am new to the Rivendell experience and I was concerned that I'd miss the quickness of my racing bike. All anxieties proved unfounded as I was so comfortable on the bike that I rode the second half much faster than the first and finished with sufficient gas in the tank to go considerably further if necessary. I can't wait to ride it home from work today. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 12:21 -0700, Me wrote: Yep, I do. As in, Cantilever Posts which are brazed-on. Except that in this case, they're not for cantilever brakes, but rather for centerpulls. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Cycle Salt Lake Century
hi Darin, i'm planning my first century, also on a Sam, in about three weeks, and i'm curious what kind of bars and tires you rode with. thanks, andrew On May 17, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Darin G. wrote: Enjoyed a wonderful century ride on my new Sam on Saturday, complete with a mini-front rack, small Trunksack and fenders. Salt Lake City is not a lugged-steel hot spot and I saw only one other Rivendell (Atlantis with albatross bars?), a Heron, and a fellow on an RB-1 who seemed to appreciate that he had a very nice bike but didn't realize it was a classic. Lots of curious riders came over to ogle the Sam at the rest stops and I answered many questions about what kind of bike it was, its intended purpose (everything!), whether I had restored an old touring bike, and whether the Brooks saddle hurt (I've been hearing that question for years). I think most people presumed I was riding it for the novelty and they seemed surprised that this is my only bike (hopefully not for long--A.H.H. whispers to me in dreams). As some of you know I am new to the Rivendell experience and I was concerned that I'd miss the quickness of my racing bike. All anxieties proved unfounded as I was so comfortable on the bike that I rode the second half much faster than the first and finished with sufficient gas in the tank to go considerably further if necessary. I can't wait to ride it home from work today. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Venturing Crew 999 S240
What is the Venturing Crew 999? On 5/17/10, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote: Great shots and looks like an excellent adventure. Not entirely sure about the fetal duck egg dinner, but I have an open mind on such topics. On May 17, 11:37 am, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Venturing Crew 999 went on an overnight/biking trip to Grant Ranch. Some arrived by car, others by bike.Those crazy enough to biked with me to Grant Ranch climbed over 1000 feet of elevation over San Jose. They were constantly lied too about how much further it was till we descended, not because I wanted to give them false hope, but because I totally forgot how long the road was. Mr.Smith and Mrs. Salcedo drove the rest of the venturers to set up camp ahead of us. At camp we had burgers, hot dogs, pork meat balls and the classic camping food of all time, Balut! For those not familiar, Balut is a Filipino dish, which is basically fetal duck egg. The next day the crew took shuttle runs to the top of Mt. Hamiliton and rode bikes down from the top with Mr.Taube and Mr.Smith. For those biking down 4000+ feet of elevation topping over 30+ mph they needed nerves of steel and amazing coordination to make it down in one piece. On the way back home those daring went with on a mountain biking trail back to LCPA with me. Starting from the park entrance I took them up Halls Valley Trail, then taking Washburn Trail down. Plenty of climbing and bumpy descents, mixed in with a couple of spills made it a life changing moment for the three young men that joined me. Despite the big focus on biking, it was more of a bonding experience for themselves, to see how much they can push their bodies and minds to that limit and to go further. This is the type of learning that can't be taught in a classroom!Congrats and thanks goes to all the advisors and venturers who made the trip amazing! Also big thanks to Mr.Rodriguez, Mr.Smith and Cycles of Change for loaning bikes for the trip! - Manny It's just one more ridge Acosta Pictures can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157624071866620/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Sent from my mobile device -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
True, dat... but they attach via cantilever posts [which were originally conceived for attaching cantilever brakes and not centerpulls]. ;-) -Scott On May 17, 12:26 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 12:21 -0700, Me wrote: Yep, I do. As in, Cantilever Posts which are brazed-on. Except that in this case, they're not for cantilever brakes, but rather for centerpulls. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cycle Salt Lake Century
I rode Nitto Noodle bars and Jack Brown Blues for tires. I'd been planning to put on a faster tire per the suggestions to my Speed Up My Sam post but I didn't get around to it. I have the top of the stem about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch above the saddle height and the bars angled so the ramp down to the brake hoods is almost perfectly level. I can ride in the drops, on the hoods, on the ramp or the top of the bar with equal ease. On May 17, 1:31 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: hi Darin, i'm planning my first century, also on a Sam, in about three weeks, and i'm curious what kind of bars and tires you rode with. thanks, andrew On May 17, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Darin G. wrote: Enjoyed a wonderful century ride on my new Sam on Saturday, complete with a mini-front rack, small Trunksack and fenders. Salt Lake City is not a lugged-steel hot spot and I saw only one other Rivendell (Atlantis with albatross bars?), a Heron, and a fellow on an RB-1 who seemed to appreciate that he had a very nice bike but didn't realize it was a classic. Lots of curious riders came over to ogle the Sam at the rest stops and I answered many questions about what kind of bike it was, its intended purpose (everything!), whether I had restored an old touring bike, and whether the Brooks saddle hurt (I've been hearing that question for years). I think most people presumed I was riding it for the novelty and they seemed surprised that this is my only bike (hopefully not for long--A.H.H. whispers to me in dreams). As some of you know I am new to the Rivendell experience and I was concerned that I'd miss the quickness of my racing bike. All anxieties proved unfounded as I was so comfortable on the bike that I rode the second half much faster than the first and finished with sufficient gas in the tank to go considerably further if necessary. I can't wait to ride it home from work today. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
On May 17, 3:35 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: True, dat... but they attach via cantilever posts [which were originally conceived for attaching cantilever brakes and not centerpulls]. hmm, but if you tried to run cantilever brakes on these cantilever posts, it wouldn't work out so well. and in that sense, it is perhaps a misnomer to call them cantilever posts. are there any epistemologists on this list? can a cantilever post *be* a cantilever post if a cantilever brake can't be used on it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: are there any epistemologists on this list? can a cantilever post *be* a cantilever post if a cantilever brake can't be used on it? It's only a cantilever post if it is actually, at this moment, supporting a cantilever brake arm. Otherwise it's only a potential cantilever post. Patrick if a tree falls in the forest, etc etc etc Moore -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Venturing Crew 999 S240
Venturing is part of the program of the Boy Scouts of America for young adults, men and women, from the age of 14 years old or 13 years old and completed eighth grade through 12 On May 17, 12:31 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: What is the Venturing Crew 999? On 5/17/10, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote: Great shots and looks like an excellent adventure. Not entirely sure about the fetal duck egg dinner, but I have an open mind on such topics. On May 17, 11:37 am, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Venturing Crew 999 went on an overnight/biking trip to Grant Ranch. Some arrived by car, others by bike.Those crazy enough to biked with me to Grant Ranch climbed over 1000 feet of elevation over San Jose. They were constantly lied too about how much further it was till we descended, not because I wanted to give them false hope, but because I totally forgot how long the road was. Mr.Smith and Mrs. Salcedo drove the rest of the venturers to set up camp ahead of us. At camp we had burgers, hot dogs, pork meat balls and the classic camping food of all time, Balut! For those not familiar, Balut is a Filipino dish, which is basically fetal duck egg. The next day the crew took shuttle runs to the top of Mt. Hamiliton and rode bikes down from the top with Mr.Taube and Mr.Smith. For those biking down 4000+ feet of elevation topping over 30+ mph they needed nerves of steel and amazing coordination to make it down in one piece. On the way back home those daring went with on a mountain biking trail back to LCPA with me. Starting from the park entrance I took them up Halls Valley Trail, then taking Washburn Trail down. Plenty of climbing and bumpy descents, mixed in with a couple of spills made it a life changing moment for the three young men that joined me. Despite the big focus on biking, it was more of a bonding experience for themselves, to see how much they can push their bodies and minds to that limit and to go further. This is the type of learning that can't be taught in a classroom!Congrats and thanks goes to all the advisors and venturers who made the trip amazing! Also big thanks to Mr.Rodriguez, Mr.Smith and Cycles of Change for loaning bikes for the trip! - Manny It's just one more ridge Acosta Pictures can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157624071866620/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Sent from my mobile device -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cycle Salt Lake Century
thanks - i'm 99% sure i'm leaving my Schwalbe Mara Sups on - so i'll be doing a slower ride probably :) On May 17, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Darin G. wrote: I rode Nitto Noodle bars and Jack Brown Blues for tires. I'd been planning to put on a faster tire per the suggestions to my Speed Up My Sam post but I didn't get around to it. I have the top of the stem about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch above the saddle height and the bars angled so the ramp down to the brake hoods is almost perfectly level. I can ride in the drops, on the hoods, on the ramp or the top of the bar with equal ease. On May 17, 1:31 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: hi Darin, i'm planning my first century, also on a Sam, in about three weeks, and i'm curious what kind of bars and tires you rode with. thanks, andrew On May 17, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Darin G. wrote: Enjoyed a wonderful century ride on my new Sam on Saturday, complete with a mini-front rack, small Trunksack and fenders. Salt Lake City is not a lugged-steel hot spot and I saw only one other Rivendell (Atlantis with albatross bars?), a Heron, and a fellow on an RB-1 who seemed to appreciate that he had a very nice bike but didn't realize it was a classic. Lots of curious riders came over to ogle the Sam at the rest stops and I answered many questions about what kind of bike it was, its intended purpose (everything!), whether I had restored an old touring bike, and whether the Brooks saddle hurt (I've been hearing that question for years). I think most people presumed I was riding it for the novelty and they seemed surprised that this is my only bike (hopefully not for long--A.H.H. whispers to me in dreams). As some of you know I am new to the Rivendell experience and I was concerned that I'd miss the quickness of my racing bike. All anxieties proved unfounded as I was so comfortable on the bike that I rode the second half much faster than the first and finished with sufficient gas in the tank to go considerably further if necessary. I can't wait to ride it home from work today. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Venturing Crew 999 S240
Sounds like a great program and a great leadership activity you're doing! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
On May 17, 4:10 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: It's only a cantilever post if it is actually, at this moment, supporting a cantilever brake arm. Otherwise it's only a potential cantilever post. Patrick if a tree falls in the forest, etc etc etc Moore Thank you, Patrick. I have a hard time with such questions. And, so it follows that since the racer mount is not supporting - indeed, it has not event the potential to support - a cantilever brake, we can not rightly refer to this mount as a cantilever post, lest we violate certain laws of truth and knowledge. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Michelin 650b tires
Why is your bike called pencil? On May 17, 11:00 am, Lesli lesli.lar...@gmail.com wrote: Looking to buy some new old stock 650b Michelin Megamium or Axial Raid tires. I'm looking for a 650b x 28c tire for randonneuring. I've had great luck with the Michelins but my supply is dwindling and I'd like to swap out tires before my June 1000k. Here's my 650b riv on my most recent brevet, the SIR 400k http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/4614189660/ Let me know if you have any you'd like to sell. Thanks, Lesli Larson Eugene, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cycle Salt Lake Century
Go big! My ride was about 8% slower than my last century and 80% more enjoyable. In fact, I enjoyed every minute of it! I wish you the same experience. D.G. On May 17, 2:21 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: thanks - i'm 99% sure i'm leaving my Schwalbe Mara Sups on - so i'll be doing a slower ride probably :) On May 17, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Darin G. wrote: I rode Nitto Noodle bars and Jack Brown Blues for tires. I'd been planning to put on a faster tire per the suggestions to my Speed Up My Sam post but I didn't get around to it. I have the top of the stem about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch above the saddle height and the bars angled so the ramp down to the brake hoods is almost perfectly level. I can ride in the drops, on the hoods, on the ramp or the top of the bar with equal ease. On May 17, 1:31 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: hi Darin, i'm planning my first century, also on a Sam, in about three weeks, and i'm curious what kind of bars and tires you rode with. thanks, andrew On May 17, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Darin G. wrote: Enjoyed a wonderful century ride on my new Sam on Saturday, complete with a mini-front rack, small Trunksack and fenders. Salt Lake City is not a lugged-steel hot spot and I saw only one other Rivendell (Atlantis with albatross bars?), a Heron, and a fellow on an RB-1 who seemed to appreciate that he had a very nice bike but didn't realize it was a classic. Lots of curious riders came over to ogle the Sam at the rest stops and I answered many questions about what kind of bike it was, its intended purpose (everything!), whether I had restored an old touring bike, and whether the Brooks saddle hurt (I've been hearing that question for years). I think most people presumed I was riding it for the novelty and they seemed surprised that this is my only bike (hopefully not for long--A.H.H. whispers to me in dreams). As some of you know I am new to the Rivendell experience and I was concerned that I'd miss the quickness of my racing bike. All anxieties proved unfounded as I was so comfortable on the bike that I rode the second half much faster than the first and finished with sufficient gas in the tank to go considerably further if necessary. I can't wait to ride it home from work today. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Michelin 650b tires
on 5/17/10 1:50 PM, Aaron Thomas at aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Why is your bike called pencil? I'd hazard a guess that it's nearly the same hue as a proofer's pencil. - J used to do that, once upon a time... -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Michelin 650b tires
http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/380229630/in/set-72157594300251903/ On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Why is your bike called pencil? On May 17, 11:00 am, Lesli lesli.lar...@gmail.com wrote: Looking to buy some new old stock 650b Michelin Megamium or Axial Raid tires. I'm looking for a 650b x 28c tire for randonneuring. I've had great luck with the Michelins but my supply is dwindling and I'd like to swap out tires before my June 1000k. Here's my 650b riv on my most recent brevet, the SIR 400k http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/4614189660/ Let me know if you have any you'd like to sell. Thanks, Lesli Larson Eugene, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Venturing Crew 999 S240
Balut?! I'll keep it to longanisa. Diniguan is about as hard-core as I get. On May 17, 1:10 pm, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Venturing is part of the program of the Boy Scouts of America for young adults, men and women, from the age of 14 years old or 13 years old and completed eighth grade through 12 On May 17, 12:31 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: What is the Venturing Crew 999? On 5/17/10, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote: Great shots and looks like an excellent adventure. Not entirely sure about the fetal duck egg dinner, but I have an open mind on such topics. On May 17, 11:37 am, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Venturing Crew 999 went on an overnight/biking trip to Grant Ranch. Some arrived by car, others by bike.Those crazy enough to biked with me to Grant Ranch climbed over 1000 feet of elevation over San Jose. They were constantly lied too about how much further it was till we descended, not because I wanted to give them false hope, but because I totally forgot how long the road was. Mr.Smith and Mrs. Salcedo drove the rest of the venturers to set up camp ahead of us. At camp we had burgers, hot dogs, pork meat balls and the classic camping food of all time, Balut! For those not familiar, Balut is a Filipino dish, which is basically fetal duck egg. The next day the crew took shuttle runs to the top of Mt. Hamiliton and rode bikes down from the top with Mr.Taube and Mr.Smith. For those biking down 4000+ feet of elevation topping over 30+ mph they needed nerves of steel and amazing coordination to make it down in one piece. On the way back home those daring went with on a mountain biking trail back to LCPA with me. Starting from the park entrance I took them up Halls Valley Trail, then taking Washburn Trail down. Plenty of climbing and bumpy descents, mixed in with a couple of spills made it a life changing moment for the three young men that joined me. Despite the big focus on biking, it was more of a bonding experience for themselves, to see how much they can push their bodies and minds to that limit and to go further. This is the type of learning that can't be taught in a classroom!Congrats and thanks goes to all the advisors and venturers who made the trip amazing! Also big thanks to Mr.Rodriguez, Mr.Smith and Cycles of Change for loaning bikes for the trip! - Manny It's just one more ridge Acosta Pictures can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157624071866620/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Sent from my mobile device -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Waxing the chain?
I'll take your word for it. I've not tried stewing on a truly dirty chain, but I have always stewed. If that's true, then you could coat a quarter in grease and leave one clean, drop them both in the stew and they'd be indistiguishable when they came out, right? Imagine the wasted time at the solvent tank that I'll never have back! Rats! Two different ways to get to the same required level of...ummintimacy, i suppose. On May 17, 11:33 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:10 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion, the key step in those instructions is starting with an absolutely clean chain. Bare metal clean. Then your results ought to be very good. I politely beg to differ. IME, when you dunk your chain, clean or dirty, into your wax and let it stew (tm), said wax not only trickles, flows, insinuates, permeates and penetrates into the tiny, intimate orifices (hhhm) but, in so doing, washes, carries away and lustralizes the afflicting dirt and contamination. Just let it stew (tm). Oh, and I think that stewing prevent chain stretch because it cooks the molecules and makes them tougher. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Another camera to shoot your Riv with
I just downloaded Camerabag. Looks right in my wheelhouse. Thanks! On May 17, 8:42 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Very nice! I just bought the Hipstamatic app last week. As a cyclist, I was also compelled to buy the Pprtland expansion pack :-) Have you also tried Camerabag? --Eric Sent from my iPad On May 16, 2010, at 9:40 PM, jose jose.cor...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that the dreamy analog touch of some iphone photography apps goes well with the dreamy analog touch of my Rivendell. :) Here are some shots I took today exploring the bayou paths downtown on my Atlantis: http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/sets/72157623951607973/ Some shots were taken with Hipstamatic and some with ShakeItPhoto. I think the saying The best camera is the one you got definitely applies to my iphone. But in addition to the convenience factor, there's also a fun factor that sometimes trumps all the megapixels of my fancier cameras. Maybe I have a liking for that analog look because that's what my childhood pictures are in, or perhaps its a hardwired preference similar to liking Impressionist paintings. I dunno, but I dig it. I realize some of you may scoff at the idea of techy fake analog. I think GP himself may not even do digital. But for those you shooting entirely digital yet find the analog look appealing, here's another option. Have fun, -- J. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
What where they called when they were sitting around the bike builder's shop? What was the label on the box that they came in Sorry, too amusing not to ask. Horace. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On May 17, 3:35 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: True, dat... but they attach via cantilever posts [which were originally conceived for attaching cantilever brakes and not centerpulls]. hmm, but if you tried to run cantilever brakes on these cantilever posts, it wouldn't work out so well. and in that sense, it is perhaps a misnomer to call them cantilever posts. are there any epistemologists on this list? can a cantilever post *be* a cantilever post if a cantilever brake can't be used on it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 15:15 -0700, Horace wrote: What where they called when they were sitting around the bike builder's shop? What was the label on the box that they came in Sorry, too amusing not to ask. According to the Paul web site, they are ...centerpull brake bosses. These are similar to cantilever bosses, but are in a different position. It is important to note that the Braze-On Racer does not mount to brake bosses in the standard cantilever position, nor will it fit on U-Brake bosses. Framebuilders should refer to the included instructions for mounting dimensions, or email i...@paulcomp.com for more information. -- http://paulcomp.com/racer.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
They were called cantilever bosses. (I think this thread is now officially not RBW in nature.) On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: What where they called when they were sitting around the bike builder's shop? What was the label on the box that they came in Sorry, too amusing not to ask. Horace. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On May 17, 3:35 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: True, dat... but they attach via cantilever posts [which were originally conceived for attaching cantilever brakes and not centerpulls]. hmm, but if you tried to run cantilever brakes on these cantilever posts, it wouldn't work out so well. and in that sense, it is perhaps a misnomer to call them cantilever posts. are there any epistemologists on this list? can a cantilever post *be* a cantilever post if a cantilever brake can't be used on it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: a White industry dingle
Yeah, I have a completely non-riv dumb project that would be enhanced greatly by a White iNdustried Dingle cog. I normally would not ask here, but last time I was looking for some white industries BMX freewheels, I got multiple dingle offers from QB owners who shed the dingle. If you have one in the parts box in almost any useable condition please email me. (same goes for other single cogged normal white industry bmx freewheels, only the white industry ones). Thanks Tarik -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544 http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Bullmoose Bar
Only large Bullmoose bars in stock now and I need the 150 reach. Also they are no longer doing the clear powdercoating. Thusly I am still on the prowl as it will be awhile until Riv gets them and I could use them now. I will trade you cold hard cash for a set. On May 14, 7:33 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I thought I would move this up as I didn't realize that Rivendell was out of them and of course there is nowhere else to get them. Thusly used is my only method right now and there is no date as to when Rivendell is getting them back. Anyone want to help me out and make some cash in the process? :) On May 13, 6:42 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Yeah that is what I was looking at. If there were only 50 made that may explain it. I may just decide to pick up a new one then. I definitely don't want one with a longer extension/reach. On May 13, 6:17 pm, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: If you're talking about the latest Riv/Nittobullmoose, they only made 50 of them in the first run, so there aren't a lot available to be re- sold. I love mine and it's not for sale. I know they are working on a version with a longer extension, but I don't know when they'll have some more in stock. jim m wc ca On May 13, 2:55 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I think I definitely want to go with the Nitto style. Seems like there are always other bars for sale used but these don't pop up alot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Bullmoose Bar
i wasn't aware there were two sizes..? aren't the smaller just cut down larger? :) -a On May 17, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Johnny Alien wrote: Only large Bullmoose bars in stock now and I need the 150 reach. Also they are no longer doing the clear powdercoating. Thusly I am still on the prowl as it will be awhile until Riv gets them and I could use them now. I will trade you cold hard cash for a set. On May 14, 7:33 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I thought I would move this up as I didn't realize that Rivendell was out of them and of course there is nowhere else to get them. Thusly used is my only method right now and there is no date as to when Rivendell is getting them back. Anyone want to help me out and make some cash in the process? :) On May 13, 6:42 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Yeah that is what I was looking at. If there were only 50 made that may explain it. I may just decide to pick up a new one then. I definitely don't want one with a longer extension/reach. On May 13, 6:17 pm, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: If you're talking about the latest Riv/Nittobullmoose, they only made 50 of them in the first run, so there aren't a lot available to be re- sold. I love mine and it's not for sale. I know they are working on a version with a longer extension, but I don't know when they'll have some more in stock. jim m wc ca On May 13, 2:55 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I think I definitely want to go with the Nitto style. Seems like there are always other bars for sale used but these don't pop up alot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: a White industry dingle
OK Tarik, I'll bite, whats a Dingle cog? Michael, an old guy who never rode a fixie On May 17, 6:23 pm, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I have a completely non-riv dumb project that would be enhanced greatly by a White iNdustried Dingle cog. I normally would not ask here, but last time I was looking for some white industries BMX freewheels, I got multiple dingle offers from QB owners who shed the dingle. If you have one in the parts box in almost any useable condition please email me. (same goes for other single cogged normal white industry bmx freewheels, only the white industry ones). Thanks Tarik -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog:http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Bullmoose Bar
They are bringing out a second one with a longer reach. The first one was 150 and the new one is 200. Both will be available but at the moment they only got the 200 in. They are finishing them so they won't be on the site for a few more weeks. Maybe someone that has a set now that thinks they could use the longer reach would want to sell me theirs so they could get the new size??? :) On May 17, 6:54 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: i wasn't aware there were two sizes..? aren't the smaller just cut down larger? :) -a On May 17, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Johnny Alien wrote: Only large Bullmoose bars in stock now and I need the 150 reach. Also they are no longer doing the clear powdercoating. Thusly I am still on the prowl as it will be awhile until Riv gets them and I could use them now. I will trade you cold hard cash for a set. On May 14, 7:33 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I thought I would move this up as I didn't realize that Rivendell was out of them and of course there is nowhere else to get them. Thusly used is my only method right now and there is no date as to when Rivendell is getting them back. Anyone want to help me out and make some cash in the process? :) On May 13, 6:42 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Yeah that is what I was looking at. If there were only 50 made that may explain it. I may just decide to pick up a new one then. I definitely don't want one with a longer extension/reach. On May 13, 6:17 pm, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: If you're talking about the latest Riv/Nittobullmoose, they only made 50 of them in the first run, so there aren't a lot available to be re- sold. I love mine and it's not for sale. I know they are working on a version with a longer extension, but I don't know when they'll have some more in stock. jim m wc ca On May 13, 2:55 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I think I definitely want to go with the Nitto style. Seems like there are always other bars for sale used but these don't pop up alot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: duluth pack
I cannot understand how the Duluth Pack Hobo bag as pictured can be attached to a saddle. In fact, as far as I can tell from their pictures, *they* don't either. The panniers look like a less fancy and less thoroughly thought through rendition of the upcoming Riv panniers writ large. They look *too* large to me (9 deep!). I'm sure some folks will want to use that space and can avoid heel strike and all that. But I'm looking forward to the Sackvilles, myself. Price matters, though. On May 17, 11:50 am, scott clankbonesh...@gmail.com wrote: http://duluthpack.com/outdoor-gear/biking On May 17, 11:47 am, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Link? On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:20 AM, scott clankbonesh...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, I noticed yesterday that Duluth Pack is making bike bags again. Panniers, a bar tube, and a hobo--but the hobo is set up to be a saddle bag instead of a bar bag. The straps are on the wrong side of the zipper. I shot them an email asking if they could do a bar version. Anyway, looks like the old Riv design for the most part. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: WTB: a White industry dingle
Well, I'm a bit confused--White Industries makes a double freewheel the Dos Eno and Surly makes a double fixed gear cog called the dingle. Tarik, are you looking for a coastie or a fixie? I'm using a Dos Eno freewheel on the Quickbeam and it's a keeper, but I have a Surly dingle fixed cog I'd part with. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of Steve Palincsar Sent: Mon 5/17/2010 7:08 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: a White industry dingle On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 15:58 -0700, MichaelH wrote: OK Tarik, I'll bite, whats a Dingle cog? http://surlybikes.com/parts/dingle_cog/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. winmail.dat
Re: [RBW] Re: Waxing the chain?
Perhaps I should clarify and add that by dirty I meant your typical, after 400 miles of regular use lubed with some squirt bike lube dirty, not chain-as-bicycle-infrastructure-what-the-hell-do-you-mean-clean-it-after-20-years? dirty. I think that the hot paraffin would easily take care of your greased quarter; it's the baked-on-with-age crusty stuff I wonder about. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:57 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I'll take your word for it. I've not tried stewing on a truly dirty chain, but I have always stewed. If that's true, then you could coat a quarter in grease and leave one clean, drop them both in the stew and they'd be indistiguishable when they came out, right? Imagine the wasted time at the solvent tank that I'll never have back! Rats! Two different ways to get to the same required level of...ummintimacy, i suppose. On May 17, 11:33 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:10 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion, the key step in those instructions is starting with an absolutely clean chain. Bare metal clean. Then your results ought to be very good. I politely beg to differ. IME, when you dunk your chain, clean or dirty, into your wax and let it stew (tm), said wax not only trickles, flows, insinuates, permeates and penetrates into the tiny, intimate orifices (hhhm) but, in so doing, washes, carries away and lustralizes the afflicting dirt and contamination. Just let it stew (tm). Oh, and I think that stewing prevent chain stretch because it cooks the molecules and makes them tougher. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Waxing the chain?
On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 17:41 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Perhaps I should clarify and add that by dirty I meant your typical, after 400 miles of regular use lubed with some squirt bike lube dirty, not chain-as-bicycle-infrastructure-what-the-hell-do-you-mean-clean-it-after-20-years? dirty. I think that the hot paraffin would easily take care of your greased quarter; it's the baked-on-with-age crusty stuff I wonder about. Well, sure, but would you ever bother trying to clean a crusty old chain like that? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: a White industry dingle
OK, Apparently not clear at all. to be specific I am looking for the white industries two cogged BMX freewheel. Colloquially this is a dingle freewheel, brand name as steve points out, it is not. So yes, Coastie white industrys dos eno freewheel like the one riv sells. Sorry for the confusion: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/white-industries-freewheel/13-082 I would like not to double my investment in a dumb project by buying a new one to try out. It involves running my big dummy on single speed hubs as a six speed with three cogs up front for a while, just to see. see? Tarik On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: Well, I'm a bit confused--White Industries makes a double freewheel the Dos Eno and Surly makes a double fixed gear cog called the dingle. Tarik, are you looking for a coastie or a fixie? I'm using a Dos Eno freewheel on the Quickbeam and it's a keeper, but I have a Surly dingle fixed cog I'd part with. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of Steve Palincsar Sent: Mon 5/17/2010 7:08 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: a White industry dingle On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 15:58 -0700, MichaelH wrote: OK Tarik, I'll bite, whats a Dingle cog? http://surlybikes.com/parts/dingle_cog/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544 http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Michelin 650b tires
Per the flickr link... The Pencil was painted to match the color (50's industrial pale blue) of a vintage pencil I found on the floor at work. Hence the nickname. It's actually more Sheltand pony than pencil. On May 17, 2:27 pm, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/380229630/in/set-721575... On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Why is your bike called pencil? On May 17, 11:00 am, Lesli lesli.lar...@gmail.com wrote: Looking to buy some new old stock 650b Michelin Megamium or Axial Raid tires. I'm looking for a 650b x 28c tire for randonneuring. I've had great luck with the Michelins but my supply is dwindling and I'd like to swap out tires before my June 1000k. Here's my 650b riv on my most recent brevet, the SIR 400k http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/4614189660/ Let me know if you have any you'd like to sell. Thanks, Lesli Larson Eugene, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Bullmoose Bar
well, i've got the short ones on my Sam and Bomba.. i'd jump at the option to put a long raw clearcoat on the Bomba, and then sell you the short raw clearcoat.. if one becomes available, ill do that :) -a On May 17, 2010, at 4:22 PM, Johnny Alien wrote: They are bringing out a second one with a longer reach. The first one was 150 and the new one is 200. Both will be available but at the moment they only got the 200 in. They are finishing them so they won't be on the site for a few more weeks. Maybe someone that has a set now that thinks they could use the longer reach would want to sell me theirs so they could get the new size??? :) On May 17, 6:54 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: i wasn't aware there were two sizes..? aren't the smaller just cut down larger? :) -a On May 17, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Johnny Alien wrote: Only large Bullmoose bars in stock now and I need the 150 reach. Also they are no longer doing the clear powdercoating. Thusly I am still on the prowl as it will be awhile until Riv gets them and I could use them now. I will trade you cold hard cash for a set. On May 14, 7:33 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I thought I would move this up as I didn't realize that Rivendell was out of them and of course there is nowhere else to get them. Thusly used is my only method right now and there is no date as to when Rivendell is getting them back. Anyone want to help me out and make some cash in the process? :) On May 13, 6:42 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Yeah that is what I was looking at. If there were only 50 made that may explain it. I may just decide to pick up a new one then. I definitely don't want one with a longer extension/reach. On May 13, 6:17 pm, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: If you're talking about the latest Riv/Nittobullmoose, they only made 50 of them in the first run, so there aren't a lot available to be re- sold. I love mine and it's not for sale. I know they are working on a version with a longer extension, but I don't know when they'll have some more in stock. jim m wc ca On May 13, 2:55 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I think I definitely want to go with the Nitto style. Seems like there are always other bars for sale used but these don't pop up alot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Waxing the chain?
Well, Duh!! Because a chain is a permanent part of the bicycle infrastructure, like the frame, bars and brake pads. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 17:41 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Perhaps I should clarify and add that by dirty I meant your typical, after 400 miles of regular use lubed with some squirt bike lube dirty, not chain-as-bicycle-infrastructure-what-the-hell-do-you-mean-clean-it-after-20-years? dirty. I think that the hot paraffin would easily take care of your greased quarter; it's the baked-on-with-age crusty stuff I wonder about. Well, sure, but would you ever bother trying to clean a crusty old chain like that? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
When I apprenticed with a couple different framebuilders, they always called them 'Bosses' or 'Posts'... http://www.bikeparts.com/pimage/BPC311130.jpg I usually called them something far worse when 'cleaning up' filing the brazes to smooth. -Scott On May 17, 3:15 pm, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: What where they called when they were sitting around the bike builder's shop? What was the label on the box that they came in Sorry, too amusing not to ask. Horace. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On May 17, 3:35 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: True, dat... but they attach via cantilever posts [which were originally conceived for attaching cantilever brakes and not centerpulls]. hmm, but if you tried to run cantilever brakes on these cantilever posts, it wouldn't work out so well. and in that sense, it is perhaps a misnomer to call them cantilever posts. are there any epistemologists on this list? can a cantilever post *be* a cantilever post if a cantilever brake can't be used on it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: a White industry dingle
Okay, let me try to understand this Tarik... you need a dingle, you want it white and industrial, correct? -Scott On May 17, 4:47 pm, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Apparently not clear at all. to be specific I am looking for the white industries two cogged BMX freewheel. Colloquially this is a dingle freewheel, brand name as steve points out, it is not. So yes, Coastie white industrys dos eno freewheel like the one riv sells. Sorry for the confusion:http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/white-industries-freewheel/13-082 I would like not to double my investment in a dumb project by buying a new one to try out. It involves running my big dummy on single speed hubs as a six speed with three cogs up front for a while, just to see. see? Tarik On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: Well, I'm a bit confused--White Industries makes a double freewheel the Dos Eno and Surly makes a double fixed gear cog called the dingle. Tarik, are you looking for a coastie or a fixie? I'm using a Dos Eno freewheel on the Quickbeam and it's a keeper, but I have a Surly dingle fixed cog I'd part with. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of Steve Palincsar Sent: Mon 5/17/2010 7:08 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: a White industry dingle On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 15:58 -0700, MichaelH wrote: OK Tarik, I'll bite, whats a Dingle cog? http://surlybikes.com/parts/dingle_cog/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog:http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Maybe WTB: 59 Bleriot?
Rob- What fenders are you running on your Bleriot? Thanks- -Scott On May 16, 10:44 pm, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote: Went for $990. About twice what I paid brand new a few years ago...yes I bought from one of those on-line undercutters...sorry. Anyway, glad to see the Bleriot is getting some attention. Mines not for sale...to busy riding it! A few pics from yesterday... http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502...@n00/sets/72157624076869770/ On May 16, 3:26 pm, terryg teg...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed... I've been watching this with interest. I'm recently forced off bikes (ribs/clavicle/lung as a result of a crash) for a while, so I guess I don't really have the urgency to get into another bike (there's plenty mental emotional urgency, just no bodily wherewithal). I think those reasons I cited for getting this for myself are valid, only not necessarily timely. RoadieRyan, am I correct in understanding there are unpurchased Bleriots out there somewhere? I sure do like building my wheels bikes, but a complete Bleriot is certainly considerable, and of course personalizable. On May 16, 3:15 pm, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: Wow that is almost as much as my LBS wants for their new ones ($1000) On May 16, 4:40 am, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: And the ebay auction is now up to (Slightly past actually) the original $750 price with 13 hours left. I am thinking it might hit closer to $900. On May 11, 4:23 pm, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On May 11, 3:15 pm, Erik C erikdcarl...@gmail.com wrote: I have both a LHT and aBleriot. With stock components the LHT is obviously heavier when lifting it. My wife and I lived in a 3rd floor apartment in Chicago for 2 years and I would carry the LHT because of how much lighter myBleriotwas. MyBleriotisn't really a light build either. Standard Riv build with 32H wheelset, racks, fenders, etc. how much lighter? 2 pounds? i just don't see how there could be a significant weight difference between these two framesets. if you're talking 3 or more pounds lighter or something, it's gotta be in the components. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: a White industry dingle
Precisely! On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 7:10 PM, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, let me try to understand this Tarik... you need a dingle, you want it white and industrial, correct? -Scott On May 17, 4:47 pm, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Apparently not clear at all. to be specific I am looking for the white industries two cogged BMX freewheel. Colloquially this is a dingle freewheel, brand name as steve points out, it is not. So yes, Coastie white industrys dos eno freewheel like the one riv sells. Sorry for the confusion:http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/white-industries-freewheel/13-082 I would like not to double my investment in a dumb project by buying a new one to try out. It involves running my big dummy on single speed hubs as a six speed with three cogs up front for a while, just to see. see? Tarik On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: Well, I'm a bit confused--White Industries makes a double freewheel the Dos Eno and Surly makes a double fixed gear cog called the dingle. Tarik, are you looking for a coastie or a fixie? I'm using a Dos Eno freewheel on the Quickbeam and it's a keeper, but I have a Surly dingle fixed cog I'd part with. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of Steve Palincsar Sent: Mon 5/17/2010 7:08 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: a White industry dingle On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 15:58 -0700, MichaelH wrote: OK Tarik, I'll bite, whats a Dingle cog? http://surlybikes.com/parts/dingle_cog/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog:http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544 http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Waxing the chain?
On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 18:56 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Well, Duh!! Because a chain is a permanent part of the bicycle infrastructure, like the frame, bars and brake pads. only if it's rusted in place, otherwise it's a replaceable wear item -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: duluth pack
Check out Frost River, which, after a hiatus, is back in the saddle. I believe when the Frost River folks parted ways with Duluth Pack folks, they got the old riv patterns in the deal? I'm guessing it was Frost River that was making the Baggins Keven's Bag and the Baggins Loafers before Baggins Hobits went away to be replaced by the Sackville Hobits--worksmanship on the Baggins looks identical to other Frost River products I own. But you'll see these FR bags are truer to the old Baggins saddlebag and pannier designs than the new Duluth Packs. Incidently, I love both companies. cheers, liesl in minneapolis http://www.frostriver.com/bike_bags/bikebags_menu.html On May 17, 11:20 am, scott clankbonesh...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, I noticed yesterday that Duluth Pack is making bike bags again. Panniers, a bar tube, and a hobo--but the hobo is set up to be a saddle bag instead of a bar bag. The straps are on the wrong side of the zipper. I shot them an email asking if they could do a bar version. Anyway, looks like the old Riv design for the most part. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Waxing the chain?
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: I tried waxing the chain once, on my commuter. Next morning it began raining as I was riding to work. I got 0.1 mi down the road and the chain began squeaking. That's my experience from the few times I've seen h2o with mine. I have a dedicated fryer filled with a paraffin and graphite mix. I do clean the chains just to keep that mixture from getting totally contaminated. Powerlinks let me pop the chain off and dunk 'em as necessary. The cleanliness aspect is wonderful, although as mentioned, I don't see moisture and I just ride recreationally. I put this set together real quick from existing pics to show the process I use: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157624084142974/ As always, your mileage may vary. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: duluth pack
IIRC, it was Frost River who last made the Baggins bags, and there was a difference in opinion over who owned those designs once Riv's contract with them ended. Frost River was/is selling the exact same Baggins-design bags under their own label though it sounded from Grant's post at the time that they had no license or agreement to do so. I'm sure there's plenty about it in the old Riv list archives. I understand why Rivendell has moved on, but I like this style of bag a lot. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote: Check out Frost River, which, after a hiatus, is back in the saddle. I believe when the Frost River folks parted ways with Duluth Pack folks, they got the old riv patterns in the deal? I'm guessing it was Frost River that was making the Baggins Keven's Bag and the Baggins Loafers before Baggins Hobits went away to be replaced by the Sackville Hobits--worksmanship on the Baggins looks identical to other Frost River products I own. But you'll see these FR bags are truer to the old Baggins saddlebag and pannier designs than the new Duluth Packs. Incidently, I love both companies. cheers, liesl in minneapolis http://www.frostriver.com/bike_bags/bikebags_menu.html On May 17, 11:20 am, scott clankbonesh...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, I noticed yesterday that Duluth Pack is making bike bags again. Panniers, a bar tube, and a hobo--but the hobo is set up to be a saddle bag instead of a bar bag. The straps are on the wrong side of the zipper. I shot them an email asking if they could do a bar version. Anyway, looks like the old Riv design for the most part. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
That is the correct, or one of the correct posts, or bosses. I interchange the terms but they both mean that thing. True, you won't be mounting cantilevers on them, but all our brakes use the same pivot setup that fits on those. There are several different styles, that one in the picture has a large offset, it's good for bikes with wide stays/blades. There are others with a much straighter path to the frame tube. Those are the ones to use, or your frame builder should use. Nova Cycle Supply has some pictures of them. Don't look to hard because before you know it you'll be shopping for a torchand lug sets and super light tubing..and an Anvil frame fixture. I'm suffering that problem as I write this. http://www.cycle-frames.com/bicycle-frame-tubing/CANTI-AND-U-BRAKE- BOSSES/ In either case it is important to build a simple fixture to keep the distance between the posts correct and keep them parallel to one another. Then mount them in the fixture and miter them to fit the tubes on the frame. This part is important as the side to side distance is critical, and the miters must match, pretty well, the the tubes they are to be brazed to. You can also cut a lot off the end to be brazed to the frame tubes to get the brake arms in closer to the frame for a stiffer setup. Paul www.paulcomp.com On May 17, 2010, at 6:08 PM, S.Cutshall wrote: When I apprenticed with a couple different framebuilders, they always called them 'Bosses' or 'Posts'... http://www.bikeparts.com/pimage/BPC311130.jpg I usually called them something far worse when 'cleaning up' filing the brazes to smooth. -Scott On May 17, 3:15 pm, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: What where they called when they were sitting around the bike builder's shop? What was the label on the box that they came in Sorry, too amusing not to ask. Horace. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On May 17, 3:35 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: True, dat... but they attach via cantilever posts [which were originally conceived for attaching cantilever brakes and not centerpulls]. hmm, but if you tried to run cantilever brakes on these cantilever posts, it wouldn't work out so well. and in that sense, it is perhaps a misnomer to call them cantilever posts. are there any epistemologists on this list? can a cantilever post *be* a cantilever post if a cantilever brake can't be used on it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch% 2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/ group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.