[RBW] Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
I just bought my first handlebar bag, an Acorn Boxy Rando. I am not running a front rack or fenders, but adding a front rack isn't out of the question if it's needed. What decaleur/rackaleurs have you all used with success paired with the Acorn? Thanks, Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Orange Quickbeam for sale - 66cm
So after some deliberation and a lot of hesitation, I'm selling my Quickbeam. Some background: I bought this Quickbeam when I was visiting a friend in San Francisco in the Fall of 2008. I visited Rivendell, and this bike was one of the floor models. I test rode it there, bought it, and had it shipped back to Nebraska. I'm kind of embarrassed to say that I really haven't ridden it that much. (I have another lighter fixed gear that i ride around Omaha.) And I've always kept it inside my house while I've had it. There are a few chips in the paint, which I've included with the photos, but otherwise the bike is in excellent condition. The rear hub is flip-flop, fixed-free. I can include the saddle/pedals/rack/fenders, or take them off. Your call. I would prefer to sell it locally/regionally (Midwest), but will ship it if need be. Please email with any questions or interest. patrickge...@gmail.com https://picasaweb.google.com/patrickgeske/Quickbeam?authkey=Gv1sRgCJKx-Py-15TGnwE# -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne Orange Leather Paint
my bike has a similar color scheme. http://www.flickr.com/photos/22253260@N00/4963970028/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne Orange Leather Paint
Sweet! For some reason Flicker gives me a strange safe search about that picture and asks me if I really want to go there. Uh, yeah. It's just a bike. On Mar 23, 11:26 pm, Ablejack ableja...@gmail.com wrote: my bike has a similar color scheme.http://www.flickr.com/photos/22253260@N00/4963970028/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
The Acorn is specifically designed for a front rack (with velcro straps on the bottom that go around the rack), with a decaleur optional. Instead of a decaleur, you can run straps to the brake hoods. If you don't want a front rack, sell the Acorn and buy yourself the Rivendell Sackville BarSack and Nitto handlebar mount for it. http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/sackville-barsack/20-208 The BarSack makes no use of a front rack, unlike the Acorn. I just bought a used Acorn that came with a VO decaleur. I'll be putting it on a Nitto M12 or Mini Front. Don't have it yet, so can't say how well the VO decaleur works. Cheers, Gernot On Mar 24, 7:18 am, pruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought my first handlebar bag, an Acorn Boxy Rando. I am not running a front rack or fenders, but adding a front rack isn't out of the question if it's needed. What decaleur/rackaleurs have you all used with success paired with the Acorn? Thanks, Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bomba-Love 2011 :)
Rene, thanks for that. Very cool. Something worth mentioning is that the total weight should (I assume) include the bike as well, in case that isn't clear from the rider and all gear description. Using this calculator with 40mm tires I indeed end up with numbers (34/43 psi fr/rear) about 10 psi higher than what I run off-road (for more traction), and about 5 psi higher than what I use on-road (30/35 psi fr/rear). However, the values it gives me for 33mm tires (Jack Brown Greens) are much higher than what I run: 48/61 psi versus the 35/40 to 40/45 psi I usually use. Cheers, Gernot On Mar 24, 12:24 am, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Someone created and posted the following calculator a while back and I find it the best and most flexible. It's also based on Jan's optimal tire deflection for the optimal pressure and you can fully fine tune it. René Tire Pressure Calculator.xls 85KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Michelin World Tour Tire
Yes, they run true to size. I love them. Probably one of the best Hetre substitutes in 700C (not that I have actually tried that many, but how many folding, slick, puncture-protection-belt-less 40mm tires are there? Marathon Racers, but they seem to run small... This place claims to still have the EZ rides, in 40 and 45mm: http://www.bikepartsplace.com/discount/clincher-tire-kwick-roller-ez-ride/ I have no experience with this seller. I like the EZ rides so much that I am tempted to get them in the 45mm size as well, but am currently pouring money into a 650B project [with Hetres] ;) Cheers, Gernot On Mar 24, 5:43 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Are the Kenda Kwick Roller EZs true to size at 40mm? They look like a good tire for my fendered Quickbeam (now with S3X hub!). Philip Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com On Mar 23, 12:31 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: I am loving my 40mm Kenda Kwick Roller EZ rides for mixed riding. Folding bead, light weight (~400g?) black sidewall, low rolling resistance. Unfortunately discontinued last fall, but worth searching for. Cheap, too. Oops, prob. won't fit on a Road Standard? How about the Soma New Xpress? A Pasela with tougher sidewalls (hypertex casing) I believe, comes in a 32 and 35 (Same thing as the Panaracer Urban Max?):http://store.somafab.com/newxp70tifob.html Gernot On Mar 23, 3:35 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: There a lot of tuff City tires out there that do well off road. I've had good success with the Jack Brown Greens, even though Grant suggests the Blue version for more rough rides. The Panaracer Urban Max is a 32mm tire similar to the Pasela with sturdier sidewalls that works well too. You have to watch the weight on some of the City tires, the World Tour is heavier than both I've mentioned yet is probably not any tougher. ~Mike On Mar 22, 12:43 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: I'm wondering if anyone in the group has had recent experience with the Michelin World Tour tire that they'd like to share? I began riding off-road in Tucson many years ago, before the advent of mountain bikes, when that style of riding was referred to as Rough Stuff by the Brits. I was using a 27 wheel size (on my Paramount) with a Michelin tire that may have been the World Tour, although I don't remember the name of the tire. These tires performed very well riding on both paved and off-road surfaces and handled the gnarly stuff quite well The unpaved roads around the Tucson area, that are graded, will eat Gran Bois tires for lunch. The thin sidewalls simply don't stand up to the sharp rocks that occur on these roads (Jan Heine states this on his website, referring to one Tucson area rider who has found the Gran Bois too fragile for these roads: http://www.compasscycle.com/TireTerrain.html . ) I'm thinking about getting a set of 700x35c tires to try out on my Rivendell Road Standard and I'm considering the Michelin World Tour. Any comments, based on riding experiences, would be appreciated. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What's your freewheel preference?
I've got a 650b-wheeled Quickbeam (just for reference) and I live in a pretty flat area. I found the 32-tooth ring unusably small so I replaced the triple crank with a double and got rid of the chain guard. (it's on my 1X9 Kogswell Kommuter now) I'm running a 38/40 up front, with a 17-19 dos enos freewheel on one side and a 16 fixed cog on the other. I find the 38-19 a good relaxed/recovery or dirt road gear and the 40/17 good for a feelin' strong day. The fixed I don't use much but when the mood hits me it's good to know it's there... Gratuitous pics: Quickbeam: http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/4761697089/ Kogswell: http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/5484895731/ Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
That is correct. No decaleur is needed. The straps to the handlebar make it very stable. Rene Sent from my iPhone 4 On Mar 24, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: The Acorn is specifically designed for a front rack (with velcro straps on the bottom that go around the rack), with a decaleur optional. Instead of a decaleur, you can run straps to the brake hoods. If you don't want a front rack, sell the Acorn and buy yourself the Rivendell Sackville BarSack and Nitto handlebar mount for it. http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/sackville-barsack/20-208 The BarSack makes no use of a front rack, unlike the Acorn. I just bought a used Acorn that came with a VO decaleur. I'll be putting it on a Nitto M12 or Mini Front. Don't have it yet, so can't say how well the VO decaleur works. Cheers, Gernot On Mar 24, 7:18 am, pruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought my first handlebar bag, an Acorn Boxy Rando. I am not running a front rack or fenders, but adding a front rack isn't out of the question if it's needed. What decaleur/rackaleurs have you all used with success paired with the Acorn? Thanks, Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 06:09 -0700, Rene Sterental wrote: That is correct. No decaleur is needed. The straps to the handlebar make it very stable. One big reason to use a decaleur is that it provides some stand-off from the handlebar. Strapping a bag to the bars steals away most of the top of the bar, preventing its use as a riding position. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bomba-Love 2011 :)
On my JB's I run 80/65 and feel very comfy. I'm still at winter weight of 230. Kelly Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2011, at 3:38 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Rene, thanks for that. Very cool. Something worth mentioning is that the total weight should (I assume) include the bike as well, in case that isn't clear from the rider and all gear description. Using this calculator with 40mm tires I indeed end up with numbers (34/43 psi fr/rear) about 10 psi higher than what I run off-road (for more traction), and about 5 psi higher than what I use on-road (30/35 psi fr/rear). However, the values it gives me for 33mm tires (Jack Brown Greens) are much higher than what I run: 48/61 psi versus the 35/40 to 40/45 psi I usually use. Cheers, Gernot On Mar 24, 12:24 am, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Someone created and posted the following calculator a while back and I find it the best and most flexible. It's also based on Jan's optimal tire deflection for the optimal pressure and you can fully fine tune it. René Tire Pressure Calculator.xls 85KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne Orange Leather Paint
Yes just a bike. But it is, after all, bike porn. Hope Flickr doesn't start doing this to all our bike photos. =JimD On Mar 24, 2011, at : Mar 24, 20111211AM, Benedikt wrote: Sweet! For some reason Flicker gives me a strange safe search about that picture and asks me if I really want to go there. Uh, yeah. It's just a bike. On Mar 23, 11:26 pm, Ablejack ableja...@gmail.com wrote: my bike has a similar color scheme.http://www.flickr.com/photos/22253260@N00/4963970028/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
The Acorn Boxy Rando Bag doesn't strap to the top of the bar. It's lateral strings go to the bottom section of the drop on your drop bars by the barend shifters. They work equally well with M bars. Not sure about Albatross bars. Rene Sent from my iPhone 4 On Mar 24, 2011, at 6:16 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 06:09 -0700, Rene Sterental wrote: That is correct. No decaleur is needed. The straps to the handlebar make it very stable. One big reason to use a decaleur is that it provides some stand-off from the handlebar. Strapping a bag to the bars steals away most of the top of the bar, preventing its use as a riding position. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
I used the VO threadless decaleur with an Acorn rando bag, and it worked fine. One exception that very low handlebars on a small bike with a long stem may not leave enough room to clear the edge of the bag on the flat section of the handlebars. I just raised my bars a bit to fix that. This wouldn't be an issue with a stem mounted decaleur. Without a decaleur the Acorn bag wobbles more than I like. Some avoid a decaleur and prevent bag wobble with p-clamps or Ortlieb brackets. This approach is very slick. JP Weigle uses clamps: http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353569@N00/4971213280/in/faves-27988383@N06/ On Mar 24, 9:16 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 06:09 -0700, Rene Sterental wrote: That is correct. No decaleur is needed. The straps to the handlebar make it very stable. One big reason to use a decaleur is that it provides some stand-off from the handlebar. Strapping a bag to the bars steals away most of the top of the bar, preventing its use as a riding position. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
I can mount something like a Mark's Rack without any problem on my one bike. However, I've done some more looking around and found this http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/racks/rackaleur-front-bag-mount.html which looks like it might work. Pete On Mar 24, 4:22 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: The Acorn is specifically designed for a front rack (with velcro straps on the bottom that go around the rack), with a decaleur optional. Instead of a decaleur, you can run straps to the brake hoods. If you don't want a front rack, sell the Acorn and buy yourself the Rivendell Sackville BarSack and Nitto handlebar mount for it. http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/sackville-barsack/20-208 The BarSack makes no use of a front rack, unlike the Acorn. I just bought a used Acorn that came with a VO decaleur. I'll be putting it on a Nitto M12 or Mini Front. Don't have it yet, so can't say how well the VO decaleur works. Cheers, Gernot On Mar 24, 7:18 am, pruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought my first handlebar bag, an Acorn Boxy Rando. I am not running a front rack or fenders, but adding a front rack isn't out of the question if it's needed. What decaleur/rackaleurs have you all used with success paired with the Acorn? Thanks, Pete- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
On Mar 24, 9:16 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: One big reason to use a decaleur is that it provides some stand-off from the handlebar. Strapping a bag to the bars steals away most of the top of the bar, preventing its use as a riding position. Another big reason is the quick release feature of a decaleur. Weigle's p-clamp solution is fine if the bag primarily stays on the bike - but if one takes the bag on/off frequently, or uses the bag on multiple bikes (as I do), fishing around in the bag to unscrew nuts just to get the bag on/off the bike is simply not as convenient or practical as using a decaleur, especially with a loaded bag. same goes for strapping the bag to the handlebars. I also note that J.P. was using a small berthoud bag at the D2R2 - not a larger boxy bag. I'm skeptical that those p-clamps alone would be enough to stabilize a large, loaded boxy bag. perhaps it is, but still - no quick release. In my experience, a rack and decaleur really allows a large handlebar bag to be used to its fullest potential - the combination supports the bag from below and keeps it rigid up top, keeping the bag very stable, even when stuffed to the hilt. and i can get the bag on/off the bike(s) in literally 2 seconds. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
I think you'd like a rack better. On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 7:58 AM, pruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.comwrote: I can mount something like a Mark's Rack without any problem on my one bike. However, I've done some more looking around and found this http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/racks/rackaleur-front-bag-mount.html which looks like it might work. Pete On Mar 24, 4:22 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: The Acorn is specifically designed for a front rack (with velcro straps on the bottom that go around the rack), with a decaleur optional. Instead of a decaleur, you can run straps to the brake hoods. If you don't want a front rack, sell the Acorn and buy yourself the Rivendell Sackville BarSack and Nitto handlebar mount for it. http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/sackville-barsack/20-208 The BarSack makes no use of a front rack, unlike the Acorn. I just bought a used Acorn that came with a VO decaleur. I'll be putting it on a Nitto M12 or Mini Front. Don't have it yet, so can't say how well the VO decaleur works. Cheers, Gernot On Mar 24, 7:18 am, pruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought my first handlebar bag, an Acorn Boxy Rando. I am not running a front rack or fenders, but adding a front rack isn't out of the question if it's needed. What decaleur/rackaleurs have you all used with success paired with the Acorn? Thanks, Pete- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
decaleurs do have their place, but with the acorn bag, I wouldnt bother. the acorn system is very stable and easily removable. I can take my acorn boxy bag off in maybe 5 seconds. maybe not as fast a with a decaleur, but fast enough. On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 24, 9:16 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: One big reason to use a decaleur is that it provides some stand-off from the handlebar. Strapping a bag to the bars steals away most of the top of the bar, preventing its use as a riding position. Another big reason is the quick release feature of a decaleur. Weigle's p-clamp solution is fine if the bag primarily stays on the bike - but if one takes the bag on/off frequently, or uses the bag on multiple bikes (as I do), fishing around in the bag to unscrew nuts just to get the bag on/off the bike is simply not as convenient or practical as using a decaleur, especially with a loaded bag. same goes for strapping the bag to the handlebars. I also note that J.P. was using a small berthoud bag at the D2R2 - not a larger boxy bag. I'm skeptical that those p-clamps alone would be enough to stabilize a large, loaded boxy bag. perhaps it is, but still - no quick release. In my experience, a rack and decaleur really allows a large handlebar bag to be used to its fullest potential - the combination supports the bag from below and keeps it rigid up top, keeping the bag very stable, even when stuffed to the hilt. and i can get the bag on/off the bike(s) in literally 2 seconds. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
On Mar 24, 8:58 am, pruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: However, I've done some more looking around and found this .. . which looks like it might work. it really depends on how picky you are. that run-over-gingerbread man thing might work, but putting a loaded bag on your handlebars can seriously affect handling. the idea is to keep the bag low and stable. i think the mark's rack, coupled with either the Acorn straps or a decaleur would be a better option. The VO stem mount decaleur with a small rack works well - and that decaleur can be cut/bent to semi-custom fit your set-up (see below picture), so that helps. The second picture-link below shows difference in bag size i noted above - you can see the berthoud bag on Weigle's bike is smaller than the full size berthoud on my bike. Again, it's kind of a personal thing - I don't like a lot (i.e., any) bag sway with a loaded front bag. some folks are more tolerant. http://www.flickr.com/photos/22267176@N02/5269320951/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/22267176@N02/4917979762/in/set-72157622654401429/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: [BOB] Anyone have experience with the Jones H-bar for off-roading?
I'd be interested in any replies about the Jones as I am beginning to think of another off road project. Thanks. On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:44 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Looks intriguing, esp. since I hate the shape of standard mtn bars (make my wrists hurt), and I can't get drop bars high enough on my monster cross to use the drops off road since the frame is too small (bought it 20 years ago). http://www.jonesbikes.com/h-bar.html I am especially curious about comparisons to dirt drop bars, even though dirt drops don't make sense on this bike because I can't get the bars high enough: http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc797-gernothuber0510.html Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups internet-bob group. To post to this group, send email to internet-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to internet-bob+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/internet-bob?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Moustache Friendly Handlebar/Rando bag Suggestions...
I think the bar tube is a low-cost option works well with m-bars. It straps on close to the stem, which is not a very useable hand position with mustache bars. Here's my older, non-vegan version on my Qbeam: http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/2041112320/ jim m wc ca On Mar 24, 9:21 am, EastBayGuy goodwin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone Curious if anyone has any suggestions and or pictures of a moustache friendly handlebar/Rando Bag. Any Thoughts would be appreciated. Cheers! Dustin G WC Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
+1 to the added benefit of a decaleur with the Acorn rando bag. I'd used the bag without a decaleur on a Mark's Rack before, but on a subsequent bike build I opted to go for Nitto M-13 + VO threaded decaleur. I was surprised at how much more stable and solid the bag felt with the addition of the decaleur. A lot less sway, especially when riding over bumpy stuff. If you zoom in on this photo you can see how it looks: http://flickr.com/photos/natan/5374690588/ -nathan On Mar 24, 2011, at 8:02 AM, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 24, 8:58 am, pruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: However, I've done some more looking around and found this .. . which looks like it might work. it really depends on how picky you are. that run-over-gingerbread man thing might work, but putting a loaded bag on your handlebars can seriously affect handling. the idea is to keep the bag low and stable. i think the mark's rack, coupled with either the Acorn straps or a decaleur would be a better option. The VO stem mount decaleur with a small rack works well - and that decaleur can be cut/bent to semi-custom fit your set-up (see below picture), so that helps. The second picture-link below shows difference in bag size i noted above - you can see the berthoud bag on Weigle's bike is smaller than the full size berthoud on my bike. Again, it's kind of a personal thing - I don't like a lot (i.e., any) bag sway with a loaded front bag. some folks are more tolerant. http://www.flickr.com/photos/22267176@N02/5269320951/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/22267176@N02/4917979762/in/set-72157622654401429/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:33, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: +1 to the added benefit of a decaleur with the Acorn rando bag. I'd used the bag without a decaleur on a Mark's Rack before, but on a subsequent bike build I opted to go for Nitto M-13 + VO threaded decaleur. I was surprised at how much more stable and solid the bag felt with the addition of the decaleur. A lot less sway, especially when riding over bumpy stuff. I agree, a decaleur does a ton of good. I have a homemade quick-release decaleur for my Acorn bag: http://appleblock.blogspot.com/2010/09/qr-lever-added-to-prototype-decaleur.html James Black Los Angeles, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone have experience with the Jones H-bar for off-roading?
On Mar 24, 11:49 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be interested in any replies about the Jones as I am beginning to think of another off road project. Thanks. no personal experience, but my buddy absolutely loves 'em. can't stop raving. he wants them on a road bike. pictured here on his MTB - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bthelewis/5296664899/sizes/l/in/photostream/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
I've used the Berthoud decaleur, which I think is the most expensive one you can get, and it is working great in combination with a Marks rack. It is not the easiest thing in the world to set up, so I was going to do a youtube about it, but haven't gotten around to it yet. The bag goes between two bikes. It takes much longer than 5 seconds. On Mar 24, 9:50 am, james black chocot...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:33, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: +1 to the added benefit of a decaleur with the Acorn rando bag. I'd used the bag without a decaleur on a Mark's Rack before, but on a subsequent bike build I opted to go for Nitto M-13 + VO threaded decaleur. I was surprised at how much more stable and solid the bag felt with the addition of the decaleur. A lot less sway, especially when riding over bumpy stuff. I agree, a decaleur does a ton of good. I have a homemade quick-release decaleur for my Acorn bag: http://appleblock.blogspot.com/2010/09/qr-lever-added-to-prototype-de... James Black Los Angeles, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone have experience with the Jones H-bar for off-roading?
That's the wheel setup I want! Thanks. I'll keep the Joneses and the Jensons in mind. On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 24, 11:49 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be interested in any replies about the Jones as I am beginning to think of another off road project. Thanks. no personal experience, but my buddy absolutely loves 'em. can't stop raving. he wants them on a road bike. pictured here on his MTB - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bthelewis/5296664899/sizes/l/in/photostream/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne Orange Leather Paint
Okay, I was expecting something gaudy but your pinstriping is very tasteful and understated--complements and ties together bikes and bags quite well. And tidily done, to boot! (my efforts at fine detail painting always end up looking like a dog's dinner at least to my perhaps over-self-critical eye) Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe 700C X 50mm tires on Velocity Chukker rims
I pinch flatted after getting a puncture once. The (front) tire went soft from the puncture and threw me off the rough edge of the pavement which pinch flatted the softened tube. I patched and inflated that tube one hole at a time before I finally figured out what happened-- took quite a long time and I was very ready to be done with it long before I actually finished! Steve On Mar 23, 10:03 am, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 23, 8:34 am, ewb ebons...@optonline.net wrote: Do you have any tips to help prevent pinch flats? Are you sure it was a pinch flat? I imagine it would take the mother of all potholes to pinch flat a 50mm tire - even a somewhat underinflated 50mm tire. Given the second flat, I'd be checking the tire or rim for something that might be nicking the tube. If it was the mother of all potholes (which it's not, because that particular pothole is in Vermont) that caused it, get a good light to help spot those suckers when you're riding around at night. they can cause more damage than flat tire, for sure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
I already had the small Nitto front rack when I bought my Acorn Boxy Rando. I just used it with the velcro straps never did bother with the side attachments. The bag comes off easily enough but it was sort of cumbersome to re-mount with the velcro. I installed a pair of D- rings on the bottom, and use a piece of shock cord with an S-hook to hold the bag down. Easy off, easy back on. The shock cord has just enough tension to keep the bag from bouncing around; actually a bit better than the velcro in that respect. dougP On Mar 23, 5:18 pm, pruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought my first handlebar bag, an Acorn Boxy Rando. I am not running a front rack or fenders, but adding a front rack isn't out of the question if it's needed. What decaleur/rackaleurs have you all used with success paired with the Acorn? Thanks, Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
While the Berthoud looks very stable, I don't like the paperclip as cotter pin. For that price, it should be something more substantial. Please! Mine came with a safety pin, not a paperclip ;) But seriously, if you think something stronger is required there, then I suspect you haven't used one. There's no force trying to pull that foot long stainless retention bar out. All that's needed is something to keep it from wiggling itself out, which in my estimation will never happen, even if I tossed the safety pin in the trash. If I do that youtube, I'll include a comment about that. On Mar 24, 10:57 am, Brett Lindenbach brett.lindenb...@gmail.com wrote: I have also been looking into a decaleur. I recently purchased a vintage French randonneur front bag on ebay (sorry if I outbid any of you. well, not really ;^) I have a Mark's rack in place on the front and looked into decaleurs. While the Berthoud looks very stable, I don't like the paperclip as cotter pin. For that price, it should be something more substantial. The VO stem mount decaleur (i.e. the classic style) looks great, but they are out of stock. Here is what Pat from VO advised: Everyone at VO uses a stem mount decaleur; they are much easier to install. You simply need to remove the top nut. We don't have an ETA on the stem mount version. So, my question to Nathan and other is whether you like the fork mounted dex? Does anyone have a stem mounted one they would be willing to part with? Best, Brett -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
To be clear, it's worse than that! My go fast and my Hilsen each have their own Marks rack and each have their own Berthoud decaleur. The gofast uses an H91 and the Hilsen uses an H121. I use one handlebar bag for both bikes. That's $180 worth of decaleur investment. Ouch. I'm sure lots of folks feel the VO is 'just as good' as the Berthoud for less than 1/3 the price, just like lots of folks feel that a Surly LHT is just as good as a Rivendell Atlantis. Both groups are probably right. Pay for what you want to pay for and do your best to be happy with what you have. I'm likely going to try a VO for when I go to decaleur my Nitto lugged stem on my Bombadil. The Berthoud wont fit that without some custom machining of parts. Custom machining isn't out of the question, though. My dad is bringing me a kick-butt lathe over spring break. :) On Mar 24, 10:37 am, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 24, 1:27 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I've used the Berthoud decaleur, which I think is the most expensive one you can get, and it is working great in combination with a Marks rack. It is not the easiest thing in the world to set up, so I was going to do a youtube about it, but haven't gotten around to it yet. The bag goes between two bikes. It takes much longer than 5 seconds. i'm sure the berthoud decaleur is super solid. but you could custom fit two 2 VO stem mount decaleurs (which work as well as my custom decaleur) for half the price of the Berthoud and make swapping the bag between bikes much, much simpler. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 12:06 -0700, William wrote: While the Berthoud looks very stable, I don't like the paperclip as cotter pin. For that price, it should be something more substantial. Please! Mine came with a safety pin, not a paperclip ;) But seriously, if you think something stronger is required there, then I suspect you haven't used one. There's no force trying to pull that foot long stainless retention bar out. All that's needed is something to keep it from wiggling itself out, which in my estimation will never happen, even if I tossed the safety pin in the trash. If I do that youtube, I'll include a comment about that. I don't like standard paper clips because they don't last long enough. I use a circular Clipiola paperclip. http://volcanoarts.com/cart/accessories/clipiola.jpg I finally had one fail, after a year of use. As to the rod wiggling out w/o a cotter pin, yes it will. It happened to me on Bike Virginia. Not enough so that the rod came all the way out, but it did wiggle itself out about a cm or so. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
On Mar 24, 1:57 pm, Brett Lindenbach brett.lindenb...@gmail.com wrote: So, my question to Nathan and other is whether you like the fork mounted dex? i used one a few years ago - worked fine until it snapped (it was an early VO model with shoddy welding). the new ones look better. the big issue, which LBleriot alluded to above, is whether you can position a fork mount decaleur to fit the bag properly. really, it's the distance between a rack and the handlebars which should determine the size of the bag. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
An artisinal paper clip! Bike Snob would love that... :) That's interesting that yours wiggles itself out, Steve. I can imagine it happening on the roof rack with no safety pin. Hours and hours of wiggling with no human to push it back in, I can totally imagine it walking out entirely. Especially if the back wall of the handlebar bag is rigid and the two tubes bolted to it are lined up really straight. Then there won't be much friction holding the steel retention bar in place. I'll leave the safety pin out on my 300k next week and see what happens with me. On Mar 24, 12:19 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 12:06 -0700, William wrote: While the Berthoud looks very stable, I don't like the paperclip as cotter pin. For that price, it should be something more substantial. Please! Mine came with a safety pin, not a paperclip ;) But seriously, if you think something stronger is required there, then I suspect you haven't used one. There's no force trying to pull that foot long stainless retention bar out. All that's needed is something to keep it from wiggling itself out, which in my estimation will never happen, even if I tossed the safety pin in the trash. If I do that youtube, I'll include a comment about that. I don't like standard paper clips because they don't last long enough. I use a circular Clipiola paperclip.http://volcanoarts.com/cart/accessories/clipiola.jpg I finally had one fail, after a year of use. As to the rod wiggling out w/o a cotter pin, yes it will. It happened to me on Bike Virginia. Not enough so that the rod came all the way out, but it did wiggle itself out about a cm or so. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
On Mar 24, 3:19 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure lots of folks feel the VO is 'just as good' as the Berthoud for less than 1/3 the price, just like lots of folks feel that a Surly LHT is just as good as a Rivendell Atlantis. i hear 'ya - but the Riv/Surly thing is kind of a false comparison. the Berthoud/VO decaleurs are completely different designs. at the end of the day, a decaleur is simply a bag mount - it just needs to hold the bag in place. the plug style decaleur is more than adequate in that respect and it's (i) more convenient to use (in general, and especially if one uses the bag on multiple bikes); (ii) less obtrusive when a bag isn't mounted; and (iii) in the case of the VO decaleur, easy to install and able to be custom fit to a certain extent. my custom decaleur, which was at least as expensive as the berthoud, has zero advantage over the VO mount other than looking rad and i'm able to install/uninstall in a hurry if i had the notion. again, it's only job is to hold the bag - one can pay a lot or comparatively little or nothing at all . .. i've seen a lot of homebrew decaleurs that work great. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
Patrick in VT You clearly have a lot more experience than I do with these things. Since the VO is superior to the Berthoud in the several ways you've listed, I'll make sure to treat myself to one when my next need arises. On Mar 24, 1:39 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 24, 3:19 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure lots of folks feel the VO is 'just as good' as the Berthoud for less than 1/3 the price, just like lots of folks feel that a Surly LHT is just as good as a Rivendell Atlantis. i hear 'ya - but the Riv/Surly thing is kind of a false comparison. the Berthoud/VO decaleurs are completely different designs. at the end of the day, a decaleur is simply a bag mount - it just needs to hold the bag in place. the plug style decaleur is more than adequate in that respect and it's (i) more convenient to use (in general, and especially if one uses the bag on multiple bikes); (ii) less obtrusive when a bag isn't mounted; and (iii) in the case of the VO decaleur, easy to install and able to be custom fit to a certain extent. my custom decaleur, which was at least as expensive as the berthoud, has zero advantage over the VO mount other than looking rad and i'm able to install/uninstall in a hurry if i had the notion. again, it's only job is to hold the bag - one can pay a lot or comparatively little or nothing at all . .. i've seen a lot of homebrew decaleurs that work great. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
On Mar 24, 4:53 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick in VT You clearly have a lot more experience than I do with these things. Since the VO is superior to the Berthoud in the several ways you've listed, I'll make sure to treat myself to one when my next need arises. no, no. i'm not saying superior - it just has certain advantages that make it a better design/solution for *me.* I take my bag on/off the bike(s) several times a day. if my circumstances were different, i may very well opt for a berthoud mount because i can't imagine anything being more rigid than that set-up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 13:39 -0700, Patrick in VT wrote: On Mar 24, 3:19 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure lots of folks feel the VO is 'just as good' as the Berthoud for less than 1/3 the price, just like lots of folks feel that a Surly LHT is just as good as a Rivendell Atlantis. i hear 'ya - but the Riv/Surly thing is kind of a false comparison. the Berthoud/VO decaleurs are completely different designs. at the end of the day, a decaleur is simply a bag mount - it just needs to hold the bag in place. the plug style decaleur is more than adequate in that respect and it's (i) more convenient to use (in general, and especially if one uses the bag on multiple bikes); (ii) less obtrusive when a bag isn't mounted; and (iii) in the case of the VO decaleur, easy to install and able to be custom fit to a certain extent. All that is true -- but for me, the big question is what type of headset does the bike have. I like the VO threadless decaleur. It's widely available, inexpensive, and it works great. The only alternatives for threadless are either custom decaleurs (including DIY) or a custom modification of the Berthoud. But to me, the VO design for threaded is not nearly as attractive, or as adaptable as the Berthoud. Yes, the Berthoud costs more, but for me, for traditional stems the Berthoud is the better answer -- even if it is a bit fiddly to mount the bag. my custom decaleur, which was at least as expensive as the berthoud, has zero advantage over the VO mount other than looking rad and i'm able to install/uninstall in a hurry if i had the notion. again, it's only job is to hold the bag - one can pay a lot or comparatively little or nothing at all . .. i've seen a lot of homebrew decaleurs that work great. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: 59cm A. Homer Hilsen w/Clydesdale Wheelset
I'm selling my 59cm A.Homer Hilsen. It's in excellent condition. 3 years old, 3000 miles. Never dropped or rained on. Stored indoors at room temperature. (No garage storage.) $2500, with professional packing and shipping to the CON US included. Will consider offer on local pickup (Paso Robles ,CA.) No saddle, seatpost or pedals. I weighed 240 for most of the miles on this bike, and I had a good shop (Bike Attack in Santa Monica) build me a set of bombproof wheels. The people at Bike Attack are oriented towards mountain biking, so the wheelset has a set of high end Hadley hubs with disc brake mounts...which are of course out of place on a road bike. Straight 2mm spokes, and Mavic A719 rims. No broken spokes, and just 2 super light truing touch-ups in 3000 miles. This is the best wheelset I've ever had for my personal needs. The set up is nothing fancy, but nothing cheap, either... 42cm Nitto Noodle Bars 11cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem 172.5 Crank Arms (I'm 5'10 and my pbh is 86.5, and they are perfect for me on this frame size.) Sugino Compact triple crankset Silver Sidepull Brakes Hadley Hubs Mavic 719 Rims Tektro Brake Levers Shimano Bar End Shifters, set up as indexed downtube shifters 9 speed cogset Near New Jack Brown Blue Rear Tire Well Used Jack Brown Blue Front Tire (100 miles left on it.) Ultegra Derailer...lightly scuffed from use on another bike Chain slightly less than 50% stretch...plenty of miles left Aside from the normal dropout wear, there are 4 paint chips. They are clearly shown in the photos available here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25844261@N05/ Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Wind!!!
To and from Mom's today to pick up and deliver her mail, 23+ mile rt. The inbound route to Rio Rancho involves some 3 or 4 miles of climbing and it is all pretty much due west, from which direction blew and still blows a spring westerly 28 gusts to 41 for the 87124 zip area, which kept my clock stopped speed (which y'all are obsessed with knowing) at 12.7 mph for the 57 minute, 12.06 inbound leg; down to 8.XX mph on one slight grade, standing all the way. Outbound, I hit 34.5 mph down the steep, 4/10 mile hill which, in the 69 gear = 167 rpm -- damn' fast for me. I probably ought to flip the wheel, but challenges are one very big part of cycling pleasure. I *have* learned to pace myself, thank God. Patrick I'm a MAN (or at least a mannish boy) Moore, with very, very sincere apologies to Muddy Waters. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Framesaver Time?
Good man, for riding a Riv in messy winter weather. What is it? The crown looks like that on my 2003 Kurt Kustom. I'd framesaver it just to be safe, if it's a Riv, and wax it strategically, and not worry about it after doing so. In my own case, with beaters, I don't bother, but good bikes, yes. On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Rob robha...@gmail.com wrote: Uh oh. Noticed this this morning: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/5556278786/ I've ridden pretty much every day this winter here in Seattle without doing much besides cleaning the bike once in a while and regular chain maintenance. I can see a few pin-prick rust points under the clear coat. Should I be worried? Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Framesaver Time?
It's the first Saluki--serial number SA01. Guess I'll be googling framesaver Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Framesaver Time?
Rust? Looks to me like the Butterscotch is thawing out. First sign of Spring! On Mar 24, 7:22 pm, Rob robha...@gmail.com wrote: It's the first Saluki--serial number SA01. Guess I'll be googling framesaver Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Framesaver Time?
That or you spilled lunch on your fender!Since it is the end of winter, may as well do an overhaul, right? Can't go wrong with a little Framesaver. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
Well, for me, a loaded handlebar bag would be a windbreaker, a snack, my wallet (which, these days, is certainly not heavy), and my cell phone. With that said, I've not run a handlebar bag before, so I don't know what even a couple of extra pounds up front is going to do. On my fast bike, a 700c rando, I don't have braze-ons for a rack. so the Rackaleur might be the best thing to try. However, on my slow bike, a 650b path bomber/shopping bike, I did fork blade barrel braze-ons for a VO/Nitto style rack. I guess I'll start with the Rackaleur and wee how it works with both bikes, and if I don't like it, I'll install the rack on the 650b and use that for rides where the bag is warranted. Thanks, Pete On Mar 24, 11:02 am, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 24, 8:58 am, pruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: However, I've done some more looking around and found this .. . which looks like it might work. it really depends on how picky you are. that run-over-gingerbread man thing might work, but putting a loaded bag on your handlebars can seriously affect handling. the idea is to keep the bag low and stable. i think the mark's rack, coupled with either the Acorn straps or a decaleur would be a better option. The VO stem mount decaleur with a small rack works well - and that decaleur can be cut/bent to semi-custom fit your set-up (see below picture), so that helps. The second picture-link below shows difference in bag size i noted above - you can see the berthoud bag on Weigle's bike is smaller than the full size berthoud on my bike. Again, it's kind of a personal thing - I don't like a lot (i.e., any) bag sway with a loaded front bag. some folks are more tolerant. http://www.flickr.com/photos/22267176@N02/5269320951/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/22267176@N02/4917979762/in/set-721576226... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Framesaver Time?
Hi Rob, Hard to tell from the photo - but sounds like you're pretty sure it's rust? JPW's Framesaver is good stuff, and a lot of LBSs in Seattle carry it. I know Recycled Cycles used to, and likely still does. I think RBW uses Boeshield, and that's what I typically use (for chains also.) Around here, you can get Boeshield at any boating/marine store, and Sears. Cheapest to buy it by the gallon - I think I got my last gallon at The Rust Store (dot com.) I soak my chains in concentrated Simple Green for a few hours, rinse thoroughly and allow to dry, then soak in a well-sealed tupperware container of Boeshield, wipe off and hang to dry overnight. This is a weekend operation, as necessary. In fact, I'll be doing that to the chain on my AHH this weekend. Alex Moll Marysville, WA On Mar 24, 7:34 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: That or you spilled lunch on your fender! Since it is the end of winter, may as well do an overhaul, right? Can't go wrong with a little Framesaver. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Framesaver Time?
Framesaver or Boeshield T-9. Also make sure you're pulling the stem and seatpost at least once a year to clean off and apply a fresh coat of grease. For good measure, if you have a long-handled cylindrical brush (sort of like a large, nylon bristled gun barrel brush), run that through the steerer and then reapply framesaver. If it's a REALLY wet environment (I see you're in Seattle...), I'd also make sure you're overhauling the headset and BB at least once a year...even if your BB is sealed, you should still pull it and grease the threads. Pete On Mar 24, 8:22 pm, Rob robha...@gmail.com wrote: It's the first Saluki--serial number SA01. Guess I'll be googling framesaver Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Framesaver Time?
Doesnt RBW apply frame saver to all its frames? Also, if you find that it is rusting like that and you want to rust proof it again. Does it mean you have to take the whole bicycle apart? K. On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 7:01 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Good man, for riding a Riv in messy winter weather. What is it? The crown looks like that on my 2003 Kurt Kustom. I'd framesaver it just to be safe, if it's a Riv, and wax it strategically, and not worry about it after doing so. In my own case, with beaters, I don't bother, but good bikes, yes. On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Rob robha...@gmail.com wrote: Uh oh. Noticed this this morning: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/5556278786/ I've ridden pretty much every day this winter here in Seattle without doing much besides cleaning the bike once in a while and regular chain maintenance. I can see a few pin-prick rust points under the clear coat. Should I be worried? Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Good decaleur for use with an Acorn Boxy Rando
Sorry for the confusion. When I used a stem mounted dex, the bag lifted off the rack a bit (because of the height of the headset/ headtube) which caused it to sway when loaded. The dex on the integrated VO rack sits at the perfect height and the bag sits flat on the rack. The dex merely stabilizes the bag, but the weight is carried by the rack. On Mar 24, 2:04 pm, Brett Lindenbach brett.lindenb...@gmail.com wrote: LBleriot, Sorry, I didn't understand. The stem mount dex are cut to size; the fork mounted dex look like they have a limited vertical adjustability. Are you confusing the two, or am I? Brett -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Commuter bicycle weight
The bags look great. Do you have any interior shots? I'm curious to see how everything is sewn together. On Mar 22, 9:34 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Here you go:https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5587128500250... On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Benedikt neutralbuoya...@comcast.netwrote: Post some pics of those Lamufas. On Mar 22, 8:21 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I futzed long and hard to fit the new/old/excessively cool grandfather generation Lamufa panniers on the commuter today; added kit in the rear pockets -- 2 tubes, Rema patch kit, 2 plastic tire levers, Park T-Bone tool, leather tire boot, Swiss army knife, seat cover, a couple of loops of leather shoelace (the Lamufas require tying down in several places), 4 quarters and a rare Andrew Jackson dollar coin -- and found that the setup, with PB frame pump in L, weighs 25 lb just about on the dot -- fenders, SON20R, two rear battery lights, bell, two Iris cages (no bottles), Cateye computer. I'm not sure that I will keep the Lamufas: astoundingly cool tho' they be, they are very definitely less practical than my small Ortliebs. But for now ... (The pair of Ortliebs would add another lb to the mix.) -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com LAFUMAS 1.jpg 74KViewDownload LAFUMAS 2.jpg 62KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
