[RBW] Re: bars for a simpleone?

2011-05-05 Thread Philip Williamson
I've had the WTB Dirt Drops on my Quickbeam since I got it in 2004. I
would never change them, unless they broke. My online friends
constantly changing their bars baffles me. I didn't like the Noodles
that came with the QB, so I gave them away. I didn't like the
(technomic and dirt drop) stems I tried either, until I put my old
Salsa on. 
http://www.biketinker.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/quickbeam-nitto-e6-mount.jpg

Midge bars are different. I have them on my mountain bike. They're
similar and good, but if the WTBs broke, I'd probably try the
Woodchipper or Ragley bars first. I like the narrow tops and steeply
slanted hooks of the WTB, and the Midge has less of each.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/5255420025/

I have moustache bars on another bike, and I like them well enough.
Again, there's a narrow 'hoods' position, uber-wide leverage position,
and a moderate cruising position.  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/3851077667/

So that's my vote. Flared drops or moustache bar, set up with an
appropriate stem. The Simpleone is a singlespeed bike, and off-
roadable, two situations where leverage matters. It's also a good road
bike, where you might want to tuck your elbows in and just GO.

 Philip

 Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com

On May 4, 4:06 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote:
 just put a deposit on a SimpleOne.. trying to decide on the bars.

 i've never really been a fan of drop bars, e.g. growing up as a kid in the 
 70s.. and the couple of times i've tried them over the intervening decades 
 haven't really changed my mind - the front ends have felt pretty squirrely 
 (but these were mostly skinny tires, too).

 i've got a canti-Rom with mustache bars and a Hillborne with bullmoose bars - 
 love them both, although the front-end of the Hillborne is a bit floppy when 
 unloaded.  

 i figured that my lack of enthusiasm for drops was d/t build (very long 
 torso, short legs - 5'11 w 84 pbh).  that being said, i'm wondering if there 
 is something i'm missing in not getting used to drops.  

 so i guess.. is there anything about a quickbeam/simplone that should 
 influence my anti/pro stance on drops?  

 anyone like other bars on their QBs, etc?  
 also wondering about albatross - anyone have pics of those on a QB?

 thank,
 andrew

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Re: [RBW] bars for a simpleone?

2011-05-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I'm built similarly and love drop bars and can't get comfortable on
anything else (I've tried them all, too). I find drops particularly
useful with ss and fixed gears because these require, or can require,
a wider range of power outputs, and different hand/arm/body positions
favor different power outputs: as you notice when you get forward and
low.

What has your problem with drops been? I've found that saddle position
is one of the keys to comfortable arms, neck and shoulders.

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 5:06 PM, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote:
 just put a deposit on a SimpleOne.. trying to decide on the bars.

 i've never really been a fan of drop bars, e.g. growing up as a kid in the 
 70s.. and the couple of times i've tried them over the intervening decades 
 haven't really changed my mind - the front ends have felt pretty squirrely 
 (but these were mostly skinny tires, too).

 i've got a canti-Rom with mustache bars and a Hillborne with bullmoose bars - 
 love them both, although the front-end of the Hillborne is a bit floppy when 
 unloaded.

 i figured that my lack of enthusiasm for drops was d/t build (very long 
 torso, short legs - 5'11 w 84 pbh).  that being said, i'm wondering if there 
 is something i'm missing in not getting used to drops.

 so i guess.. is there anything about a quickbeam/simplone that should 
 influence my anti/pro stance on drops?

 anyone like other bars on their QBs, etc?
 also wondering about albatross - anyone have pics of those on a QB?

 thank,
 andrew

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Re: [RBW] bars for a simpleone?

2011-05-05 Thread Bruce Baker
Just curious what's the frame size of your Rom and Hillborne?  I'm the same
height and PBH as you.
Bruce

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:06 PM, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote:

 just put a deposit on a SimpleOne.. trying to decide on the bars.

 i've never really been a fan of drop bars, e.g. growing up as a kid in the
 70s.. and the couple of times i've tried them over the intervening decades
 haven't really changed my mind - the front ends have felt pretty squirrely
 (but these were mostly skinny tires, too).

 i've got a canti-Rom with mustache bars and a Hillborne with bullmoose bars
 - love them both, although the front-end of the Hillborne is a bit floppy
 when unloaded.

 i figured that my lack of enthusiasm for drops was d/t build (very long
 torso, short legs - 5'11 w 84 pbh).  that being said, i'm wondering if there
 is something i'm missing in not getting used to drops.

 so i guess.. is there anything about a quickbeam/simplone that should
 influence my anti/pro stance on drops?

 anyone like other bars on their QBs, etc?
 also wondering about albatross - anyone have pics of those on a QB?

 thank,
 andrew

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Re: [RBW] Re: 54 Heron Touring on ebay

2011-05-05 Thread Bruce Baker
he is actually measuring 54 cm c-c would that make it a 56cm...if so I might
bid on this one..

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:22 AM, SteveF frede...@msu.edu wrote:

 Yep, those were nice bikes--a close descendant of the RB-T.  (just as
 the Heron Road is of the RB-1)  The Touring's came in odd sizes
 though--this one sounds like a 55cm (since he's measuring it as 53cm C
 to C and the top tube is listed as 56cm)

 On May 5, 12:33 am, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Looks nice!
 
  http://tinyurl.com/3m7ttma
 
  Ryan

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[RBW] Re: 54 Heron Touring on ebay

2011-05-05 Thread SteveF
It's got to be a 55cm--Heron touring models came in odd sizes.  (you
should still bid though--nice bike!)

On May 5, 7:26 am, Bruce Baker bkno...@gmail.com wrote:
 he is actually measuring 54 cm c-c would that make it a 56cm...if so I might
 bid on this one..

 On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:22 AM, SteveF frede...@msu.edu wrote:
  Yep, those were nice bikes--a close descendant of the RB-T.  (just as
  the Heron Road is of the RB-1)  The Touring's came in odd sizes
  though--this one sounds like a 55cm (since he's measuring it as 53cm C
  to C and the top tube is listed as 56cm)

  On May 5, 12:33 am, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:
   Looks nice!

  http://tinyurl.com/3m7ttma

   Ryan

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[RBW] Re: bars for a simpleone?

2011-05-05 Thread Ginz
I'm not a fan of drops, either. My arms are too short. On a
singlespeed/fixed gear, I want something wide for leverage.  If you go
with a flared drop like the On One Midge, be aware that you will have
to be stretched out and on the hooks to take advantage of the bars
width when standing and stoping on the pedals!  It is (if I recall
correctly) must narrorwer at the brake hoods than a super-wide Nitto
drop bar.

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[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East and The Weather...

2011-05-05 Thread SteveF
Of course removing your fenders virtually guaranties rain, you
know...just sayin'.  B-)

On May 3, 9:58 am, Norman norr...@gmail.com wrote:
 The decks are cleared and I'll be there.  I'm also staying at the
 Sherwood.  My only regret is I had to take off the VO Zep. fenders
 from my Hillborne as they were, as put on, too annoying.  I'll try
 again another time or perhaps order the longboards.  I'll expect to
 get muddy.
 I think there was a post about someone needing a ride.  I'm in
 northern New Jersey not too far from NYC so if someone still needs
 one, let me know.
 Norman Rosenblum

 On May 3, 7:39 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

  On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 20:46 -0700, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
   Attention Riv Rally East Riders:

   The Wellsboro PA weather forecast for the coming weekend (as of Monday
   evening) indicates a 30% chance of rain.
   According to my math, that translates to a 70% chance of NO RAIN... So
   as of this moment Riv Rally East is ON

   Please confirm if you will be joining us; otherwise please don't
   forget to cancel your reservation.

  Thanks.  I'll be there.

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[RBW] Re: Fwd: RR43 Link Update

2011-05-05 Thread MichaelH
I found when I opened up to full page and hit the magnifying button
the file became  readable.  But it acts funny.   Two fingers on the
pad activates the magnification instead of the scroll.  One finger
scrolls the screen.  I found myself inadvertently jumping all over the
place.

michael

On May 5, 1:43 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Print as a pdf, if you are on a Mac.

 May be a similar option in the  world-o-windows.

 - Jim

 on 5/4/11 5:12 PM, Bill Gibson (III) at bill.bgib...@gmail.com wrote:

 My inability to download it, etc. will motivate me to pay for a print copy!
 They deserve it, anyway.

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[RBW] Re: Break-in for Berthoud saddles?

2011-05-05 Thread Christian
I've yet to ride mine in the humid Virginia summer.  My break in
miles--several thousand--have all been in the fall, winter, and early
spring.  As hot and humid as our summers can get it that might just do
it.  The saddle also just might not be the one for me.

Best wishes,

Christian

On May 4, 3:28 pm, omnigrid omnig...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...sounds like an easy way to ruin your $200 saddle.

 my berthoud was hard but comfortable out of the box. besides a small amount
 of brooks proofide on the underside to protect from drying out, butt-sweat +
 miles is the only treatment that I use. no problems at all or need to
 break-in the saddle (aka premature wear of the leather).







 On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Bill webe...@gmail.com wrote:

  On May 3, 9:16 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:
   This may be blasphemy to some, but you might try to get the saddle
   wet, or just damp, and then go for a ride.   ...

  Lon Haldeman has written about a break-in process for B-17s that
  involves soaking the saddle in hot water and then applying mink oil.
  More here:

 http://pactour.blogspot.com/2011/01/breaking-in-leather-saddle.html

  ~Bill

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RE: [RBW] bars for a simpleone?

2011-05-05 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I'm 6 feet (or a little less), 86 PBH (or a little more), thus not hugely 
different sizing than Bruce.  I have 46cm Noodles on my Quickbeam, and I love 
them -- 3 totally distinct hand positions (and several variants thereof) means 
excellent hand/wrist comfort, and although I'm no great climber, the bike with 
these bars makes me better (which is good for a single speed).


From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Baker
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:36 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] bars for a simpleone?

Just curious what's the frame size of your Rom and Hillborne?  I'm the same 
height and PBH as you.
Bruce

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:06 PM, andrew hill 
neurod...@gmail.commailto:neurod...@gmail.com wrote:
just put a deposit on a SimpleOne.. trying to decide on the bars.

i've never really been a fan of drop bars, e.g. growing up as a kid in the 
70s.. and the couple of times i've tried them over the intervening decades 
haven't really changed my mind - the front ends have felt pretty squirrely (but 
these were mostly skinny tires, too).

i've got a canti-Rom with mustache bars and a Hillborne with bullmoose bars - 
love them both, although the front-end of the Hillborne is a bit floppy when 
unloaded.

i figured that my lack of enthusiasm for drops was d/t build (very long torso, 
short legs - 5'11 w 84 pbh).  that being said, i'm wondering if there is 
something i'm missing in not getting used to drops.

so i guess.. is there anything about a quickbeam/simplone that should influence 
my anti/pro stance on drops?

anyone like other bars on their QBs, etc?
also wondering about albatross - anyone have pics of those on a QB?

thank,
andrew

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[RBW] How to print #43

2011-05-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Any advice on how to print it? I can't get it to print beyond page one
(and I've set the printer specs properly).

Also, I don't see it on the Riv website: not in PDF format, yet?

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[RBW] Re: How to print #43

2011-05-05 Thread cm
When I click the link, I get a printer icon on the bottom of the page.
Click the printer icon and a box opens asking if i would like to print
the whole thing or specific pages. Click that and it prepares to print
and then my printer box opens. Click print.

Spec: Windows 7 Enterprise, Google Chrome.

Chris

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 Any advice on how to print it? I can't get it to print beyond page one
 (and I've set the printer specs properly).

 Also, I don't see it on the Riv website: not in PDF format, yet?

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[RBW] Re: bars for a simpleone?

2011-05-05 Thread Jim M.
On May 4, 4:06 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote:
 also wondering about albatross - anyone have pics of those on a QB?



Here's mine with Albatross: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/3448531380/in/photostream

I've also used bullmoose and mustache bars on it. All of those bars
have their good points, but I always come back to Salsa Bell Lap
cyclocross bars. I also have a long torso and relatively short legs.
I'd suggest that if you haven't found drop bars you like, it's
probably a fit issue and not a bar issue.

QB/Simpleone's are great bikes. Enjoy!

jim m
wc ca

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[RBW] Re: bars for a simpleone?

2011-05-05 Thread Mojo
I am (6ft, 89PBH) another advocate for drop bars with their many hand
positions and the ease to body shift for differing effort or
aerodynamics. My current favorite is the Noodle I have three bikes
with 46cm Noodles, and one with 44cm and wish the ratio was reversed.
I have a Priest bar on my 3speed and a typical mtn bike bar on my
typical mtn bike, but get weary of the one hand position. I tried an M-
bar on my Allrounder for 2+ years, but found it limiting for rides
greater than ~20 miles. But your view on bars will likely vary
considerably from mine. Thats what keeps the bar manufacturers busy.

I have 2 used Nitto 135 Randonneaur (width: 38cm tops, 45cm drops)
http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/handlebars/index.html#handlebarsdrop ,
and 2 Dream Bars 44cm for sale. Each $20 plus actual shipping, or 2
for $35, or all 4 for $60 shipped. Some scratches no hard use.

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[RBW] Re: How to print #43

2011-05-05 Thread Stephen S
Instead of the whole thing option select the option to print specific
pages and choose 1-46

Stephen

On May 5, 8:30 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's what I did, and it prints only page one. Then the page/icon
 freezes and I have to close the window. Chrome, Mac latest, old HP
 laserjet.



 On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:03 AM, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote:
  When I click the link, I get a printer icon on the bottom of the page.
  Click the printer icon and a box opens asking if i would like to print
  the whole thing or specific pages. Click that and it prepares to print
  and then my printer box opens. Click print.

  Spec: Windows 7 Enterprise, Google Chrome.

  Chris

  On May 5, 9:44 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
  Any advice on how to print it? I can't get it to print beyond page one
  (and I've set the printer specs properly).

  Also, I don't see it on the Riv website: not in PDF format, yet?

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[RBW] Re: Break-in for Berthoud saddles?

2011-05-05 Thread Mike S
I coated my Brooks once thoroughly with an Obenauf's treatment by
heating up the goop with a hairdryer to get it liquidy and then
rubbing in well to get good penetration. This may help soften that
very thick leather...?

On May 5, 9:58 am, Christian christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've yet to ride mine in the humid Virginia summer.  My break in
 miles--several thousand--have all been in the fall, winter, and early
 spring.  As hot and humid as our summers can get it that might just do
 it.  The saddle also just might not be the one for me.

 Best wishes,

 Christian

 On May 4, 3:28 pm, omnigrid omnig...@gmail.com wrote:

  ...sounds like an easy way to ruin your $200 saddle.

  my berthoud was hard but comfortable out of the box. besides a small amount
  of brooks proofide on the underside to protect from drying out, butt-sweat +
  miles is the only treatment that I use. no problems at all or need to
  break-in the saddle (aka premature wear of the leather).

  On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Bill webe...@gmail.com wrote:

   On May 3, 9:16 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:
This may be blasphemy to some, but you might try to get the saddle
wet, or just damp, and then go for a ride.   ...

   Lon Haldeman has written about a break-in process for B-17s that
   involves soaking the saddle in hot water and then applying mink oil.
   More here:

  http://pactour.blogspot.com/2011/01/breaking-in-leather-saddle.html

   ~Bill

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[RBW] Re: bars for a simpleone?

2011-05-05 Thread Lemon
just put a deposit on a SimpleOne.. trying to decide on the bars

great question!  i recently did the same thing, and knew right off the
bat that i was going with the jitensha nitto b206aa flat bar. i just
rec'd mine from natsumi at jitensha studio... they're beautiful:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidlemon/5627723301/

that simpleone can't get here soon enough!

On May 5, 9:24 am, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I am (6ft, 89PBH) another advocate for drop bars with their many hand
 positions and the ease to body shift for differing effort or
 aerodynamics. My current favorite is the Noodle I have three bikes
 with 46cm Noodles, and one with 44cm and wish the ratio was reversed.
 I have a Priest bar on my 3speed and a typical mtn bike bar on my
 typical mtn bike, but get weary of the one hand position. I tried an M-
 bar on my Allrounder for 2+ years, but found it limiting for rides
 greater than ~20 miles. But your view on bars will likely vary
 considerably from mine. Thats what keeps the bar manufacturers busy.

 I have 2 used Nitto 135 Randonneaur (width: 38cm tops, 45cm 
 drops)http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/handlebars/index.html#handlebarsdrop,
 and 2 Dream Bars 44cm for sale. Each $20 plus actual shipping, or 2
 for $35, or all 4 for $60 shipped. Some scratches no hard use.

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[RBW] Re: bars for a simpleone?

2011-05-05 Thread Bryan Edgar
My recently-acquired pre-owned Quickbeam came with 46cm Noodles.
Originally, I was planning on switching them for moustache bars from
another bike, but now I just can't bear to do it.  The Noodles are so
versatile - seems like I could do anything with them.  Probably the
only thing they're not good for is riding during the winter with big
fat mittens.  I find myself riding in the drops way more than I ever
did in previous drop bar situations, but that also probably has
something to do with having the bars up higher.

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Re: [RBW] bars for a simpleone?

2011-05-05 Thread andrew hill
I've got a canit-Rom in 59 and a Sam Hillborne in 56, and used to own a 52 
Bombadil.  The Rom and Bomba fit well at those sizes (Rom w. mustache bars, 
Bomba with bullmoose) and the Sam feels a bit too big (with bullmoose).  Still 
trying to figure out how to make the Sam not feel like an oversized tank... 
don't think it's the bars on that one - probably the heavyish tires/wheels and 
I probably should have gone a size down, even though I have some standover 
clearance with the 56.  

I've also got pretty short arms/legs for my torso - that's probably why i 
haven't loved drops - e.g. to use them I'm stretched out over the bike too 
much. 

Thanks for all the advice and feedback from everyone - I think I'm leaning 
towards the Nitto Rando bar for the SimpleOne - e.g. splayed-out drops with a 
tighter bend so the drops are closer.  Maybe with a dirt-drop stem...

thanks,
andrew

On May 5, 2011, at 3:35 AM, Bruce Baker wrote:

 Just curious what's the frame size of your Rom and Hillborne?  I'm the same 
 height and PBH as you.
 Bruce
 

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[RBW] NYC Bike Shops

2011-05-05 Thread Cycletex
Anyone have NYC bike shop suggestions that a Riv lover shouldn't miss
out on?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter Wheel Set Question

2011-05-05 Thread CycloFiend
on 5/4/11 4:18 AM, islaysteve at alkire...@verizon.net wrote:

 When I recently built up my Bleriot (135mm) I used Velo Orange wheels
 (130mm).  I asked the mechanic at VO about the spacing and he said
 that for a 5mm difference, I could just install the wheel and clamp it
 down with the skewers.  I was able to do this with no problem at all.
 It shifts fine, so I don't think the chainline is out of whack.  Of
 course, YMMV. Steve

The only thing to be aware of is that the face of the hub will force an
alignment of the dropouts.  The issue is mainly the change of stresses on
the connection of the rear dropouts to the stays at the brazing.

There's plenty of elasticity in the steel so that the stays will clamp down
and/or spread back out (and if you've ever seen a steel frame being
respaced, it's pretty amazing how far you have to bend it to change things.)

If you _had_ to do it for a single trip or instance, I wouldn't worry about
it particularly (with a steel frame of course).  But, if you were going to
on a regularly basis, it's probably not a bad idea to put a couple spacers
in there.  It's bone simple stuff.  I wouldn't even worry about changing the
axle. 

As far as the chainline - it's a 2 mm shift at most.  I didn't worry about
that at all. Just checked the limit screws and enjoyed the benefits of
analog shifting.

- J

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East and The Weather...

2011-05-05 Thread CycloFiend
As a quick reminder for all involved...

photos.
photos.
photos.
photos.

;^)

And for those hemming/hawing... Hey, it's rain!  Y'ain't gonna melt! That's
what fenders are for!

Everyone have a grand time, eh?

- J

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[RBW] Re: How to print #43

2011-05-05 Thread Leslie
Interesting I'm on Windows (XP here at work still), using Firefox;
via the treefree site told it to print, it spooled it all first;  but
when I selected my printer in Firefox, I picked a pdf printer (PDF
complete);   it came out looking fine save to TOC (also blank),  but
is only 44.5 mb...

On May 5, 2:57 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 on 5/5/11 7:44 AM, PATRICK MOORE at bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

  Any advice on how to print it? I can't get it to print beyond page one
  (and I've set the printer specs properly).

 The treefree site seems to default to printing just the current page, so
 when the initial menu comes up, you have to specify the page range.

 I've got it posted here:

 http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/#readers

 or

 http://tinyurl.com/rbw-rr43

 It's a big honkin' file - 113mb - and as others have noted, it's missing the
 TOC details on page 2.  But, there ya go.

 - J

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[RBW] Australian Wool

2011-05-05 Thread nawrock


I am really glad to see in the email update that Riv is bringing in another 
shipment of the Australian Wool.  I hope that it is the same stuff that they 
had 5-6 years ago.  I loaded up  on long sleeve and short sleeve shirts then 
and some of them are getting tattered now.  If it is the same I will load up 
again! 


Dave Nawrocki 
Fort Collins, CO 

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[RBW] Re: How to print #43

2011-05-05 Thread William
What does Maury Wills have to do with any of this?

On May 5, 12:48 pm, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Interesting I'm on Windows (XP here at work still), using Firefox;
 via the treefree site told it to print, it spooled it all first;  but
 when I selected my printer in Firefox, I picked a pdf printer (PDF
 complete);   it came out looking fine save to TOC (also blank),  but
 is only 44.5 mb...

 On May 5, 2:57 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:







  on 5/5/11 7:44 AM, PATRICK MOORE at bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

   Any advice on how to print it? I can't get it to print beyond page one
   (and I've set the printer specs properly).

  The treefree site seems to default to printing just the current page, so
  when the initial menu comes up, you have to specify the page range.

  I've got it posted here:

 http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/#readers

  or

 http://tinyurl.com/rbw-rr43

  It's a big honkin' file - 113mb - and as others have noted, it's missing the
  TOC details on page 2.  But, there ya go.

  - J

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  -http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines

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  several miles to work. I'd sprayed it with some cheap gold paint so it
  wouldn't look nice. Locked my bike to a radiator, because you never knew,
  and went in.
  -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac

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[RBW] Innit the cutest li'l rack you ever saw?

2011-05-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5603343307748116242
and following.

A tiny little front rack that fits to the fork crown, from chief
bicycle parts agent and heavy enabler Ryan Watson of this list. It's
not perfect: it moves the fender down toward the tire by a few mm, but
with my small tires that is not a big deal.

I rode 24 miles with the VO Rackaleur today and it worked fine, but
this rack will hold the bag closer in and lower.

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Re: [RBW] Re: How to print #43

2011-05-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I've done that and all I get is page one.

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Instead of the whole thing option select the option to print specific
 pages and choose 1-46

 Stephen

 On May 5, 8:30 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's what I did, and it prints only page one. Then the page/icon
 freezes and I have to close the window. Chrome, Mac latest, old HP
 laserjet.



 On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:03 AM, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote:
  When I click the link, I get a printer icon on the bottom of the page.
  Click the printer icon and a box opens asking if i would like to print
  the whole thing or specific pages. Click that and it prepares to print
  and then my printer box opens. Click print.

  Spec: Windows 7 Enterprise, Google Chrome.

  Chris

  On May 5, 9:44 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
  Any advice on how to print it? I can't get it to print beyond page one
  (and I've set the printer specs properly).

  Also, I don't see it on the Riv website: not in PDF format, yet?

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Re: [RBW] Re: How to print #43

2011-05-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks to all. I'll give both this and the PDF method a try.

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Interesting I'm on Windows (XP here at work still), using Firefox;
 via the treefree site told it to print, it spooled it all first;  but
 when I selected my printer in Firefox, I picked a pdf printer (PDF
 complete);   it came out looking fine save to TOC (also blank),  but
 is only 44.5 mb...

 On May 5, 2:57 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 on 5/5/11 7:44 AM, PATRICK MOORE at bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

  Any advice on how to print it? I can't get it to print beyond page one
  (and I've set the printer specs properly).

 The treefree site seems to default to printing just the current page, so
 when the initial menu comes up, you have to specify the page range.

 I've got it posted here:

 http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/#readers

 or

 http://tinyurl.com/rbw-rr43

 It's a big honkin' file - 113mb - and as others have noted, it's missing the
 TOC details on page 2.  But, there ya go.

 - J

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 Current Classics - Cross Bikes
 Singlespeed - Working Bikes

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 -http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines

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 wouldn't look nice. Locked my bike to a radiator, because you never knew,
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Re: [RBW] Fwd: RR43 Link Update

2011-05-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
does anyone have a link to the actual PDF file, rather than this weird
shade.keeptrees site?


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 My inability to download it, etc. will motivate me to pay for a print
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[RBW] readers and riv catalogs

2011-05-05 Thread Sarah Gibson


have stacks and stacks of these id like to sell.
sorry, i know i posted this before and had some interest, but my mother was 
very ill
and i was simply not able to follow thru at the time.

since then she has passed and now i have a great deal more time to catch up 
with things.
have numerous copies of most all the catalogs(only have one copy of #0-sorry i 
will be keeping that one)
and lots of the older readers.

let me know which one(s) you are looking for and i will let ya know if i have 
thanks
peace






well behaved women rarely make history
_ride yr friggin bicycle_
 


  

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Atlantis

2011-05-05 Thread Rene Sterental
I have Paul Neo-retro and Touring cantis on my Atlantis and love them.

René

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On May 4, 2011, at 8:11 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:06 AM, johnb jbust...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thoughts on Cantilever versus V-brakes? I have a LHT with the Tektro
 720s on it and I would not get them again. I feel they are difficult
 to adjust and they are okay at stopping the bike.

 Since this is a 50th b-day gift to myself, I have been looking at the
 Paul brakes. Any experience with either the touring Cantis or the
 Motolites?


 If you go with V-brakes make sure you:

 1. get the right brake levers to match them
 2. the cable splitting thing gets harder with v-brakes b/c there is no
 simple way of unhooking them w/o readjusting them.

 Also worth looking at some of the other tektro/cane creek cantis - the
 scx5 I had a bianchi and I loved those things.

 -sv

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[RBW] Re: How to print #43

2011-05-05 Thread velomann
I was able to print it - broke it into sections of 12 pages, but only
printed the first section - the print was so fuzzy I couldn't read it.
Anyone else experience this? (copy, not bad eyes)

Mike

On May 5, 7:44 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Any advice on how to print it? I can't get it to print beyond page one
 (and I've set the printer specs properly).

 Also, I don't see it on the Riv website: not in PDF format, yet?

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[RBW] Re: Fwd: RR43 Link Update

2011-05-05 Thread John Bennett
Dear Steve and all,

We will have a PDF of the Reader in the next week or so. This was a
sneak peak for our members and friends.

We need to do a final final proofreading of it, but wanted to add it
to the email update.

All the best,

John at Rivendell

On May 5, 5:53 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
 does anyone have a link to the actual PDF file, rather than this weird
 shade.keeptrees site?

 On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 17:12 -0700, Bill Gibson (III) wrote:
  My inability to download it, etc. will motivate me to pay for a print
  copy! They deserve it, anyway.

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[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East and The Weather...

2011-05-05 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Jim, I will bring my camera, as I'm sure others will.

No need to hem and haw, people... 20% chance of rain; 80% chance of NO
rain, and 100% chance of a GREAT RIDE.

RIV RALLY EAST KICKS OFF TOMORROW EVENING!
IT'S NOT TOO LATE
GET YOUR BIKE
LEAVE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE NEIGHBOR TO WALK THE DOG
GET IN YOUR CAR
GET TO THE RALLY

A proposed gathering spot (watering hole) for Friday night is Timeless
Destination on Main Street in Wellsboro - http://www.timelessdestination.com/
I will be there... WOO HOO

Peace,
Bobby B
cell: (908) 303-6887

On May 5, 3:22 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 As a quick reminder for all involved...

 photos.
 photos.
 photos.
 photos.

 ;^)

 And for those hemming/hawing... Hey, it's rain!  Y'ain't gonna melt! That's
 what fenders are for!

 Everyone have a grand time, eh?

 - J

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East and The Weather...

2011-05-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
And bring your wooly mukluks, it's going to be COLD!

On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 15:41 -0700, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
 Jim, I will bring my camera, as I'm sure others will.
 
 No need to hem and haw, people... 20% chance of rain; 80% chance of NO
 rain, and 100% chance of a GREAT RIDE.
 
 RIV RALLY EAST KICKS OFF TOMORROW EVENING!
 IT'S NOT TOO LATE
 GET YOUR BIKE
 LEAVE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE NEIGHBOR TO WALK THE DOG
 GET IN YOUR CAR
 GET TO THE RALLY
 
 A proposed gathering spot (watering hole) for Friday night is Timeless
 Destination on Main Street in Wellsboro - http://www.timelessdestination.com/
 I will be there... WOO HOO
 
 Peace,
 Bobby B
 cell: (908) 303-6887
 
 On May 5, 3:22 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
  As a quick reminder for all involved...
 
  photos.
  photos.
  photos.
  photos.
 
  ;^)
 
  And for those hemming/hawing... Hey, it's rain!  Y'ain't gonna melt! That's
  what fenders are for!
 
  Everyone have a grand time, eh?
 
  - J
 
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[RBW] Re: 54 Heron Touring on ebay

2011-05-05 Thread RonaTD

  he is actually measuring 54 cm c-c would that make it a 56cm...if so I might
  bid on this one..

They came in odd sizes. Measuring 54 c-c would probably be a 55, which
should have a 56.5 top tube. I can tell you just by looking at the
picture that it's probably a 55, not a 57.


Ted Durant

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[RBW] Simple One

2011-05-05 Thread charlie
Looks like I will finally be a Rivendell owner..and not just
an accessory purchaser. Can't wait to set up my new simple bike.

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[RBW] which pedals are these?

2011-05-05 Thread Lemon
at the 02:47 mark, you catch a glimpse of the pedals on the ahh shown
in this riv video on fender installation (very cool vid, btw).  anyone
know which pedals they are?  for a moment i thought they were vo city
pedals, but they don't appear to be.  thanks.

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[RBW] Re: which pedals are these?

2011-05-05 Thread Lemon
sorry, vid is here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG_WZVS9SUY


On May 5, 6:48 pm, Lemon davidboydle...@gmail.com wrote:
 at the 02:47 mark, you catch a glimpse of the pedals on the ahh shown
 in this riv video on fender installation (very cool vid, btw).  anyone
 know which pedals they are?  for a moment i thought they were vo city
 pedals, but they don't appear to be.  thanks.

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[RBW] FS: Pashley Tube Rider Complete Bike, new post

2011-05-05 Thread williwoods
I have this gorgeous Pashley Tube Rider Double Scoop in Pink/
Tourquoise

Upgrades include: Nitto Periscopa stem, Nitto bars, mks touring
pedals, shimano brake levers, cork grips, a suntour thumbshifter used
in friction mode, and basket.

I have the original twist shifter and grips as well as the original
beach cruiser style bars. All will be included.

This was the last one imported from the uk back in '10. I am not sure
if these are available anymore state-side from a pashley dealer. I
was
told last year that the us distributer wasn't importing them anymore.
perfect shape not a blemish to be found. no dents cracks etc.
there are scuff marks here and there on the pedals and crank arms,
just the normal wear. always stored indoors ridden about 1000 miles.

wheels are true, everything works perfect. My wife doesnt really ride
it much anymore, since she got a go-fast bike.


$550 Bike only, shipping is extra, I got a quote on shipping via ups/
fedex says it will be around $80 to the east coast (depending on
location could be cheaper), local pickup is also an option.


perfect town bike.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/willhrtn/sets/72157626556037328/

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[RBW] Re: which pedals are these?

2011-05-05 Thread williwoods
not exactly the same but close

http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/pedals/vo-city-pedals-sealed-bearing-228g-pr.html

Looks like they are MKS fancy touring pedals based off of the pics on
the grip king page on Riv's site.

On May 5, 6:48 pm, Lemon davidboydle...@gmail.com wrote:
 at the 02:47 mark, you catch a glimpse of the pedals on the ahh shown
 in this riv video on fender installation (very cool vid, btw).  anyone
 know which pedals they are?  for a moment i thought they were vo city
 pedals, but they don't appear to be.  thanks.

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[RBW] Re: which pedals are these?

2011-05-05 Thread Ian Dickson
I think these are the ones:

http://store.somafab.com/mkstolipe.html

MKS Touring Lite.

On May 5, 5:48 pm, Lemon davidboydle...@gmail.com wrote:
 at the 02:47 mark, you catch a glimpse of the pedals on the ahh shown
 in this riv video on fender installation (very cool vid, btw).  anyone
 know which pedals they are?  for a moment i thought they were vo city
 pedals, but they don't appear to be.  thanks.

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