[RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
JT Do you ride up to the peak in the 42-19 gear? I live a couple of miles from base of Mt Diablo on the Danville side but was always afraid to ride up on my low 44-19. AD On May 8, 10:05 pm, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: I'd agree that chainline doesn't need to be nuts on on a singlespeed setup, but for fixed gear riding, especially on rough ground (paved or no), having a chainline that's within 2-3mm is important, not so much for efficiency as for preventing the chain coming off under high RPM pedaling. Had that happen a few times due to bad chainline and it's not fun. My multi-gear derailer-less setup uses a Salsa Casseroll frame (nice long, sloping, front opening, horizontal dropouts) with a single 42t chairing (on the inboard shoulder of a sugino xd double with a shimano 107mm BB), and a Phil QR flip-flop with a 17-19t dingle fixed cog and a 22t bailout/downhill freewheel. The chainline is setup so the chainring is just between the chainlines of the two dingle cogs (around 40mm, IIRC). On the dingle cog the two cogs are even closer together than on the DOS freewheel, from what I've seen--Surly recommends (and I use) a narrow 9spd chain. So chainline isn't perfect there but it is close enough. Been using this setup or something similar for a few years now and really like it. Last weekend I rode it up Mt. Diablo in the 42-19 gear, flipped to the freewheel to bomb the descent, and then back to the 42-17 fixed at the bottom for the ride back to the BART. A good samaritan saw me on the side of the road and asked if i was all right, and I replied I'm fine, just shifting gears! On May 8, 7:38 pm, Bill Gibson (III) bill.bgib...@gmail.com wrote: Chainline is not an issue, unless you are a mid-century Brit... I run stock chainrings, 32/40 and the 17/19 Dos. The limitation on the Quickbeam is my Berthoud fender stays, which, strictly speaking, is not a Quickbeam issue. They could be longer, to let me use the whole range. Low-profile fasteners and a flaring fenderline allow me to use all the combos, but I rarely do. I gut things out. Huh. No problem climbing South Mountain in Phoenix, but soon I will build a wheel and play with an SRAM 9-speed internal hub... summer fun... seriously, you feel drag on the chainline? What about my internal gear friction box? Please, get an ergometer or some sort of watt-o-matic meter, and quantify that drag! Chainline is an aesthetic issue, not a drag, son. Humph... (Please don't get mad, I'm just playin'...) On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 5:34 PM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: It doesn't appear to me that the chain drag would be that noticeable..are you using a regular 8-9 speed chain? On May 8, 11:58 am, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: This question is to all. How does the fixed gear side chainline work out with the various combinations you use? I ask because the fixed gear chainline on my Quickbeam sucks and the drag/lack of efficiency is easy to feel. I'm running the stock bashguard/40/32 Sugino triple combination and a 16t fixed cog in back. The chainline on the 40x16 fixed combination is more than 5mm off (the cog being inboard of the chainring). And the fixed setup is much more draggy than the 40x16 freewheel combination on the other side when using the 16-19 White Industries DOS freewheel. Of course, that's because the DOS freewheel places the 16t cog further outboard. The whole issue has me about to ditch the Sugino triple in favor of a decent single speed crankset. Ron On May 8, 8:50 am, A D deguzman.al...@gmail.com wrote: On my Simpleone I have a dos 16/19 on the freewheel side and a 17/19 surly dingle cog on the fixed side. In front I have 44/48 rings on the front. I use the 48/16 when I commute and ride down to Rivendell and change gears to 44/19 when I go back home which is mostly uphill. I usually flip to the fixed side on weekend rides when I don't have anywhere to be. I haven't tried the extremes of the gears but the dropouts on my prototype appear long enough. There is just something about the Qb/SO that feels so right. I can't figure it out but it has me considering picking up an AHH even though I have an Ebisu AR. On May 7, 6:54 pm, Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote: My QB has a 40/32 in front and the 16/19 in the rear. It also has a solo 22 back the which does come in handy when laden down with camping gear and facing a couple of hills around here. In town I tend to run 40/19 because I can get off the line faster in traffic. Once out on the open road it's back to 40/16. Not thinking about what gear I'm in is great. During the week I'm in commuter mode, on weekend it's open road mode and maybe once a quarter I camp. Aloha, Bob Sent from my iPad On May 7, 2011, at 11:00 AM,
[RBW] Angel Island S24O
One of my 2011 goals was to do 4 S24O's. This was the first. Along with my wife and two kids we voyaged to Angel Island from the East Bay via bike, bart and ferry. Turned out to be a very memorable Mother's Day. The Bombadil and the Gomez did splendidly, as expected. Video proves it happened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqgpPRaV6qo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] wanted: anyone wishing to depart with 54 rambo or similar sport tourer/rando?
hey just looking for a quality sport touring frame (that can take fenders and 28 or 32 tires) without having to buy newI have a 53 Riv atlantis...need 53ish tti stand 5'6 cheers joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] schwalbe marathon racer 700x35 or kojak 700x35 for romulus
hi all does anyone have these and know the actual width when mounted? i have narrow road type rims. im trying to fit these under the 45mm sks fender on my romulus. any suggestions on what is a good tire for that application would be appreciated. im trying to maximize width for the tires. i have the original shimano brakes, but would be willing to go to the tektro big mouth if neccesary if it helps. thanks for your time joe rex kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Any Riv riders on TOSRV this weekend?
I monitored the weather forecasts up through Friday night so I could choose between my fendered and bagged Sam Hillborne and my go-fast Litespeed. The Litespeed won and I had a glorious ride both ways. I passed a blue Rambo this afternoon just north of Chillicothe, and perhaps that was you. I spotted three other Riv bikes, a low count compared to last year. Only 364 days until the next one. On May 4, 10:54 pm, Steve Hemmelgarn trekcommu...@yahoo.com wrote: This weekend is the 50th TOSRV. How many Riv riders will be there? I'll be there on my Blue Rambouillet. Hope to see lots of you there. Steve Hemmelgarn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Simpleone Wheels
on my quickbeam im riding fixed 40x14 with the 16t freewheel on the other side and this combo is great. if the suzue free/free hubs arent available then id get a SA sx3 3sp fixed gear wheel. im sure itd be fun. and an SA 8sp 120mm rear too! swap em out for different rides. all the while getting 6 and 16 speeds slyly and to many a seasoned wrenchs suprise. those dropouts are a thing of beauty i tell ya. joe rex kelly On May 8, 10:09 pm, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all who responded to my last post about the duomatic hub. While it seems like a very fun project, I don't want to get into something that may be finicky and costly in the long run. I think I'd rather do the double/double set up. My question is : If I use the Synergy rim, is the off-center rear unnecessary with a single speed drivetrain? Does anyone have any other plans for their Simpleone wheels? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS OR TRADE:shmano, nitto, panaracer
hi all! i have the following items for sale or trade: panaracer pasela 26x1.25 pair of tires steel bead non tourguard. with tubes. ridden once, flatted, taken off, not ridden since. rims on the bike just too wide for these. 30 kenda kwicker 700c x 32 kevlar bead knobbies. pair. came with the romulus i bought recently (thanks again, on the road friday hopefully). i just dont need these. good condition. 30 nitto rm016n moustache bar. normal condition. 55 shimano tiagra levers that riv sells. normal condition. 35 id really rather trade for what i need, a brooks b17(most importantly), nitto mini rack, sackville small saddlesack, and albatross bars (or your other ideas), but ill sell em as well for fair prices of course and ill ship conus. but id rather trade. thanks for your time joe rex kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
On May 8, 3:08 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com I know lots of people, myself included, who have had medical bills resulting from cycling. I even had a friend die in a cycling accident. I've been riding with bicycle clubs virtually every weekend, and commuting, since 1972 and I know lots of cyclists. But I have never met one single cyclist who had medical bills that could be attributed to riding carbon. In fact, I've never met a single cyclist who had as much as a scratch that could be attributed to riding carbon. Well, i met two. One had a carbon fiber frame break at either the down tube or fork, i think it was the fork. He landed on his face at speed. Took him a few years to get back on the bike, numerous surgeries later to reconstruct his face. I told him he was lucky he did not break his neck. The other fellow also landed on his face, riding a spinergy Rev X carbon fiber wheel. The front wheel collapsed, all of a sudden he found his fork tips in the pavement. My friend got in crash a few weeks ago, but someone ran into him in a race. The bikes, as he said, exploded, into lots of small carbon tubes. But he was hurt as a result of hitting the ground, the frame broke after. Mark Howtostretch.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Pics!!!
Here are a few more photos and some garmin links. I had a lot of fun. Thanks for organizing this Bobby! http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrewianphilip/ http://connect.garmin.com/activity/84426295 http://connect.garmin.com/activity/84426274 On May 7, 10:43 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Today Riv Rally East kicked off with a stellar ride through the beautiful Pine Creek Gorge in North Central Pennsylvania. Our group numbered 8, with folks coming from as far away as Cleveland and Washington DC. The weather started out perfect, and remained so for the first half of the ride. But eventually the clouds rolled in and we got our first 10-minute rain shower, followed by more gorgeous weather. Then the BIG clouds rolled in, and we got a nice dousing of heavy rain, wind and lightning... NOW WE HAD OURSELVES A RIDE!!! The rain only lasted 30 minutes or so, but we were compelled to seek shelter after getting soaked for only 10 minutes. Then the weather turned gorgeous once again... such is spring in the wilds of Central PA. It was a beautiful ride through some beautiful country... Our group enjoyed today's ride; tomorrow we'll choose a slightly shorter route. By all accounts, Riv Rally East has been a success so far... There is definite interest in a Riv Rally 2012. Here are a few pics...http://tinyurl.com/66re7ty Peace, BB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: fs: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen
Bump w/ price drop...$1300 Thanks! - Eric On Apr 28, 10:00 pm, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote: It got flagged again for some reason but it's still available. Thanks! - Eric On Apr 28, 11:12 am, John Blish jbl...@gmail.com wrote: Earlier post not deleted in my mail. Flog it, Eric. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Rob Riggins rigten...@gmail.com wrote: I bet your original post was deleted because you took a swipe at track bikes in a user moderated forum -- assuming the original post included the comment about Chicago needing fewer track bikes. Rob Minneapolis, MN On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote: My CL post was deleted for some reason, here's the new link: http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bik/2350482278.html Thanks! - Eric On Apr 25, 3:55 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Those tips are featured prominently on a Bombadil for Rivendell's front rack installation video http://www.youtube.com/user/RivBikeWorks#p/u/7/FRvh2kQTncE and somewhat less prominently in the Hunqapillar video showing full- twenty-niner-knobbies http://www.youtube.com/user/RivBikeWorks#p/u/2/DAS7IeATqs0 That's my first time to see those tips on theHilsen. Most Hilsens I've seen have the lower eyelet only and the top of the tip has that little strip of cream accent paint. On Apr 25, 12:59 pm, stevep33 steve...@gmail.com wrote: The shaping on the fork eyelets is nice. I have not seen that on other Rivs. On Apr 25, 1:44 pm, Eric Wolforth zeroboyseba...@gmail.com wrote: My AHH is up for sale: http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bik/2345290322.html Photos? Questions? Email me! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Rob Riggins Minneapolis, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- John Blish Minneapolis MN USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
I have known two people locally who had carbon forks break and they suffered quite a lot of damage. One is a bikeshop owner riding a madone, the other was a racer whose carbon spoked wheels came apart in a turn. It can happen with any material, but to say that it doesn't happen with carbon, which is what I am getting from your post, is ludicrous. On May 8, 5:08 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 11:13 -0700, grant wrote: Yeah, but it's not the Official one...just a stopgap. There are a couple other things that'll change for the Permanent Paper addition. Edition. The math reference shifted me wrongly there. The tradition of pre-paper issues is good, though, so things like this can be caught. Thanks. The $10 never did seem quite right, but if you account for medical bills that may arise from riding carbon, I think we could get it up to $10 or even more, per ride. I know lots of people, myself included, who have had medical bills resulting from cycling. I even had a friend die in a cycling accident. I've been riding with bicycle clubs virtually every weekend, and commuting, since 1972 and I know lots of cyclists. But I have never met one single cyclist who had medical bills that could be attributed to riding carbon. In fact, I've never met a single cyclist who had as much as a scratch that could be attributed to riding carbon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front derailer for 48-38-24: Shimano, Campy, IRD?
It's hard to know which derailer has a matching radius without being able to hold it up to the chainring. I'm beginning to lean to the IRD because it states that it is designed for the big ring I have. Other derailers just list a maximum ring size. BC On May 8, 9:37 am, Bill Lucas wheelslu...@gmail.com wrote: BC, The IRD Aplina is not a copy of the Ultegra. I used it to replace a 9-speed Ultegra on a 48-34-24 set up. The Ultegra was VERY fussy to get working. I literally bolted the IRD in place, adjusted the stops and it works perfectly. All that said, I tried one on my wife's new Ebisu All-Purpose and it didn't work well. I played with it for a while. I ended up changing it to a Shimano FD-4403 Tiagra. The Tiagra was modified to match the chainring radius. These are indexed bicycles. You need to get a front derailleur that matches the chainring radius. Sometimes it takes a swap ot two too get it right. Bill Watsonvillle, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: 650b wheels
long shot, I would guess, but looking for some used 650b wheels, shimano 8/9/10, 135 spaced rear. thanks for any help on this, trying to get this dang bike built up without spending a fortune. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv reader, playthings?
... trying this post for a third time ... words. i think playthings works well... personally, i've used therapists, spirit guides, personal trainer, low-tech transporters, environmentalists, creative muses, etc. to describe RBW's bikes. who doesn't like fun though. and more than anything, my AHH with 48cm noodles and 40mm schwalbes is FUN! On May 6, 9:36 am, Bike Hermit bikeher...@biketouringnews.com wrote: u...did Grant really call bikes playthings in the new reader? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] schwalbe marathon racer 700x35 or kojak 700x35 for romulus
i've got Schwalbe Mara Racer 30s on my canti-Rom and while i don't have a caliper, they are just a hair over 1 inch in width (~ 27mm) hope this helps. -andrew On May 8, 2011, at 7:33 PM, rex wrote: hi all does anyone have these and know the actual width when mounted? i have narrow road type rims. im trying to fit these under the 45mm sks fender on my romulus. any suggestions on what is a good tire for that application would be appreciated. im trying to maximize width for the tires. i have the original shimano brakes, but would be willing to go to the tektro big mouth if neccesary if it helps. thanks for your time joe rex kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?
So... you rode the bike for 15 years and the wheel never came out of
the dropouts. And in all that time you never knew how to correctly
fasten a quick release. Fifteen years of negligent riding, and the
bike never had a problem.
Sounds pretty safe to me.
Philip
Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com
On May 8, 7:59 pm, David T. davidtren...@yahoo.ca wrote:
It’s too bad, reading the latest Knothole entry on the Rivendell
website, Grant appears to be stressed out, probably about that legal
case he refers to in RR 43. (It would be funny, considering that a
gaggle of lawyers are working feverishly, perhaps even referring to
“lawyer lips” in their written arguments—except it’s not that funny
when someone is getting dragged into court over something that was
made diligently 20 years ago.)
It is ironic that he would get tied up in something like that. He has
been a proponent of bicycle safety, although he doesn’t necessarily
call it that. It is implicit in the design of his bikes that there is
always a “factor of safety” built in, in other words they are if
anything a little over-built, so that failure of the bike or one of
its parts won’t cause an injury. That’s really one of the main
distinguishing features of his designs, compared to other bikes you
can buy. When I am descending at high speed on my Rivendell, I often
think to myself, this is dangerous but it is nice to know that I am on
the best possible bike for this purpose. In all of Grant’s
“velosophy”, whether it is about bigger tires, steel forks, riding
styles, you name it, there is always an unspoken understanding that
safety is one of the fundamentals.
It’s too bad but that is the way things go sometimes; someone who
dedicates a lot of their life to protecting something gets accused of
neglecting it.
{I guess the legal point is whether Lawyer Lips make a bike safer, and
even if they do whether a bike without them is safe enough. It all
gets very complicated because Grant is the expert on these things, and
he may not have thought that Lawyer Lips made a bike safer. [The ones
on the bike, not the ones on the lawyers.] But as an employee of
Bridgestone, it sounds like it wasn’t even his decision. The RB-1 was
advertised as a racing bike, so it was designed to get the wheel off
quickly. For Pete’s sake, he even had an article on how to use the
Quick Release in one of the Bridgestone catalogues. What else could he
have done? Surely the operator of any vehicle has to take
responsibility for ensuring that the wheels are fastened on as they
were designed to be.[Maybe Grant should get his own lawyer independent
of the Bridgestone lawyer?(After all, he was acting in good faith as
an employee and stood to gain nothing whether or not lawyer's lips
were used. Awww, what a mess.)]}
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[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
Sorry. my post was a lame attempt at humor. On May 8, 5:58 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 13:19 -0700, newenglandbike wrote: Well, I guess you have to figure in the cost of riding attire to go with the carbon. Shoes, jerseys, etc. Seems like it could add up fast. Riding attire has nothing at all to do with carbon. I use cycling shorts, shoes and jerseys with my steel and titanium bikes, and see no reason to feel the slightest bit of shame about it. On the other hand, that stuff lasts a long time if you take care of it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
Sorry. my post was a lame attempt at humor. -Matt (who does not own a pinstripe fitted suit). On May 8, 5:58 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 13:19 -0700, newenglandbike wrote: Well, I guess you have to figure in the cost of riding attire to go with the carbon. Shoes, jerseys, etc. Seems like it could add up fast. Riding attire has nothing at all to do with carbon. I use cycling shorts, shoes and jerseys with my steel and titanium bikes, and see no reason to feel the slightest bit of shame about it. On the other hand, that stuff lasts a long time if you take care of it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
Sorry. my post was a lame attempt at humor. -Matt (who does not own a pinstripe fitted suit) On May 8, 5:58 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 13:19 -0700, newenglandbike wrote: Well, I guess you have to figure in the cost of riding attire to go with the carbon. Shoes, jerseys, etc. Seems like it could add up fast. Riding attire has nothing at all to do with carbon. I use cycling shorts, shoes and jerseys with my steel and titanium bikes, and see no reason to feel the slightest bit of shame about it. On the other hand, that stuff lasts a long time if you take care of it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front derailer for 48-38-24: Shimano, Campy, IRD?
I run the campy racing triple on a 48/34/26 triple and a 44/30 double. I works very well, much better than the 105's it replaced. It has a very short cage, which allows it to be set very low without interfering with the chain stay. michael On May 8, 4:57 pm, BCDrums bcdr...@comcast.net wrote: It's hard to know which derailer has a matching radius without being able to hold it up to the chainring. I'm beginning to lean to the IRD because it states that it is designed for the big ring I have. Other derailers just list a maximum ring size. BC On May 8, 9:37 am, Bill Lucas wheelslu...@gmail.com wrote: BC, The IRD Aplina is not a copy of the Ultegra. I used it to replace a 9-speed Ultegra on a 48-34-24 set up. The Ultegra was VERY fussy to get working. I literally bolted the IRD in place, adjusted the stops and it works perfectly. All that said, I tried one on my wife's new Ebisu All-Purpose and it didn't work well. I played with it for a while. I ended up changing it to a Shimano FD-4403 Tiagra. The Tiagra was modified to match the chainring radius. These are indexed bicycles. You need to get a front derailleur that matches the chainring radius. Sometimes it takes a swap ot two too get it right. Bill Watsonvillle, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] schwalbe marathon racer 700x35 or kojak 700x35 for romulus
I put 700x35 Kojacs on Velocity Dyad rims on my Sam and they were just barely 32mm wide at 70-ish PSI. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 16:26 -0700, RJ wrote: I have known two people locally who had carbon forks break and they suffered quite a lot of damage. One is a bikeshop owner riding a madone, the other was a racer whose carbon spoked wheels came apart in a turn. It can happen with any material, but to say that it doesn't happen with carbon, which is what I am getting from your post, is ludicrous. I am not a fan or defender of carbon. What I am saying is to single out carbon as though it was especially dangerous, above and beyond all other materials, is ludicrous, and if you go by what I see on the forums and message boards, has gone a long way towards destroying Grant's credibility. If it was as uniquely and urgently dangerous as he makes out, you'd think that in a 39 year long career of being actively involved in bicycle clubs and club riding, you'd think I'd have heard of at least one local instance - but no. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front derailer for 48-38-24: Shimano, Campy, IRD?
I'm using the IRD with a Silver bar end shifter and I find that it takes an awful lot of force to shift to the big cog. I literally tore a ligament in my thumb on it. Anyone else had success increasing leverage of the cable's pull? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front derailer for 48-38-24: Shimano, Campy, IRD?
Oh, and I'm running a 26/36/46 and other than the above issue, the IRD shifts perfectly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Front derailer for 48-38-24: Shimano, Campy, IRD?
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 06:07 -0700, Ginz wrote: I'm using the IRD with a Silver bar end shifter and I find that it takes an awful lot of force to shift to the big cog. I literally tore a ligament in my thumb on it. Anyone else had success increasing leverage of the cable's pull? Something bad wrong with your setup, I think. There isn't a lot of force required at the lever in my experience, and I just don't understand how your thumb would be involved in a downshift in the first place. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pannier Anchor for Nitto R-15
Thomas, Thanks for pointing out the lack of bungee hook. I would have completely overlooked that. I also like that rack and maybe I would make a small bungee hook from a piece of scrap metal. How about some photos with your TourSacks installed!! ginz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front derailer for 48-38-24: Shimano, Campy, IRD?
Steve, Sorry, I wasn't clear. I hurt my thumb shifting to the big chainring. I had a habit of grabbing the bar end shifter and prying with my thumb like a can opener. Ginz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Angel Island S24O
My wife and I are planning to go there next weekend. Any tips? We haven't been to the island before. We're going to be coming from Mountain View. Stephen On May 8, 11:54 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: One of my 2011 goals was to do 4 S24O's. This was the first. Along with my wife and two kids we voyaged to Angel Island from the East Bay via bike, bart and ferry. Turned out to be a very memorable Mother's Day. The Bombadil and the Gomez did splendidly, as expected. Video proves it happened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqgpPRaV6qo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Front derailer for 48-38-24: Shimano, Campy, IRD?
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 06:30 -0700, Ginz wrote: Steve, Sorry, I wasn't clear. I hurt my thumb shifting to the big chainring. I had a habit of grabbing the bar end shifter and prying with my thumb like a can opener. I still don't see how that's possible. The shifter is usually slightly below horizontal in the middle ring and when you pull up on it with your fingers it goes to horizontal to slightly angled up. Don't see how the thumb comes into it at all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: wanted: anyone wishing to depart with 54 rambo or similar sport tourer/rando?
Joe, Are you in a hurry? I am going to be posting my 54cm Rambouillet in the next couple of weeks. I also am same height and have a 52cm QB. The Rambouillet has SS couplers and will come with the suitcase. It is a custom blue and white color scheme (since I had to repaint after the cut). The couplers were put in by Bilenky of Philadelphia. The bike was bought brand new in 2006. On May 8, 11:44 pm, canali jwcoll...@hotmail.com wrote: hey just looking for a quality sport touring frame (that can take fenders and 28 or 32 tires) without having to buy newI have a 53 Riv atlantis...need 53ish tti stand 5'6 cheers joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] duomatic
Yeah, that's exactly my plan when the S-O frame arrives. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:34 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] duomatic How is the braking, and the non-braking drag, with those 2-speeds? I've been tempted to build up a backup wheel for one or both of my Riv fixed gears using these hubs because they would allow, in addition to a climbing gear, coasting with the safety of a rear brake while not requiring me to install rear calipers. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Yup. New SA Duomatic coaster brake hub waiting for frame. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jandrews_nyc Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 8:13 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] duomatic Anyone planning to go new or n.o.s. 2 speed kickback hub on their new Simpleone? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
Just to add another data point about the current prevalence of carbon fiber in many bicycle frames, here's a couple of some quotations from the former bikelist.org Frame forum. The remarks are those of Jim Merz whose bicycle bona fides are originally as a custom bicycle frame builder going back almost 40 years and a technical expert who worked at Specialized for many years before retiring. ...there is nothing wrong with steel bicycle frames or the people who ride them, like them, or make them. I just proposed to the frame builder list here that steel bikes must be considered as a fashion decision. This is not a put down at all. Lots to things from the past have value but are not very commercially viable. Vinyl records, film cameras, mechanical watches, steel bike frames all have their place with a small fanatic following. and this: Steel has been used for making bike frames for over 100 years. During this period every trick in the book has been used to make lighter, stronger, stiffer (or let's say correctly stiff) frames. But steel has a high density, and one key feature of steel cannot be changed with alloying or heat treating. This is specific stiffness, or stiffness in relation to mass. It turns out that most metals have very similar specific stiffness values. Aluminum is around 1/3 the density but also 1/3 as stiff as steel, titanium is around 1/2 the density of steel, but also around 1/2 the stiffness. There are a few tricks to improve on this situation. So, in the case of steel tubing one tries to remove material to make the structure lighter by reducing wall thickness. Strength can be maintained with very high tensile steel, but the stiffness suffers with the thinner wall. Increasing the tube diameter will improve the stiffness, but because steel is dense the wall thickness gets very thin. Not good for several reasons, hard to make and sensitive to damage. A way around this is to use a less dense metal. Aluminum is a logical choice as it is only 1/3 the density of steel. Not as strong, but one can make the wall thickness much thicker for strength and stiffness and still be lighter than steel structures. Very high performance cost effective frames can be made this way, along with most aircraft. This design (along with titanium frame material) is however still limited by this specific stiffness ratio mentioned above. But we have a new material that is not limited by the specific stiffness values of typical metals. Carbon fiber matrix offers large performance improvement in all kinds of structures. So carbon fiber matrix has potential for maintaining the strength and stiffness required with much less mass than most metals including the three common bike frame materials. However, careful design and fabrication procedures must be followed. The implementation of carbon fiber in aircraft design has progressed to the point that large percentages airframes are carbon fiber. This is not done for marketing reasons, but because it saves weight and improves service life. Correctly designed bicycle frames made using carbon fiber can show the same benefits. Until some new material comes along it is the first choice for bicycle frames. I've personally never ridden any bicycle, nor have I owned one, that wasn't a steel frame bicycle. I don't, however, think there is any point in criticizing carbon fiber as some inferior material for a bike's frame or components. I also don't give any credence to the idea that carbon fiber is a material that is inherently dangerous or poorly suited to for bicycles. This is, in my opinion, one of those can't we all just get along areas. I'm quite happy with my steel frame bicycles. If someone else loves their carbon fiber bike, that's fine with me. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On May 9, 5:11 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 16:26 -0700, RJ wrote: I have known two people locally who had carbon forks break and they suffered quite a lot of damage. One is a bikeshop owner riding a madone, the other was a racer whose carbon spoked wheels came apart in a turn. It can happen with any material, but to say that it doesn't happen with carbon, which is what I am getting from your post, is ludicrous. I am not a fan or defender of carbon. What I am saying is to single out carbon as though it was especially dangerous, above and beyond all other materials, is ludicrous, and if you go by what I see on the forums and message boards, has gone a long way towards destroying Grant's credibility. If it was as uniquely and urgently dangerous as he makes out, you'd think that in a 39 year long career of being actively involved in bicycle clubs and club riding, you'd think I'd have heard of at least one local instance - but no. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send
Re: [RBW] Re: Pannier Anchor for Nitto R-15
I agree that it's too bad that they didn't think to put a bungee hook on the R-15. But, One can make good use of the rack by using the Ortleib brand of bags. They don't use bungee clips. Rather they use an adjustable bracket that can be set to optimize the R-15. From: Ginz theg...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 9, 2011 6:23 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Pannier Anchor for Nitto R-15 Thomas, Thanks for pointing out the lack of bungee hook. I would have completely overlooked that. I also like that rack and maybe I would make a small bungee hook from a piece of scrap metal. How about some photos with your TourSacks installed!! ginz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: duomatic
I have a new S2 still sitting in the box, along with a Weinmann DP18 rim... just need to get off my ass and order spokes; then I'll lace it up for my single speed '86 Nishiki Prestige. I love riding it SS, but adding 38% for the flats and downhill (to me) is arguably worth the aggravation of multiple shift attempts (if that's what it takes)... Besides, like anything else I'll bet one can become proficient with a little practice. I may also add a chain tensioner and double crank/ front derailleur to extend the gear range to 2x2. Additionally I have a beautiful Suntour Cyclone Mark II derailleur set and original downtube shifters, so between all the configuration options I may start referring to this bike (currently known as SShiki for its single speed configuration) as Shikibot... Transformer Bike... So far I have been rather impressed by the finish (and price) of the new (Sunrace) SA hubs... we'll have to see how well they hold up to extended use. Peace, BB On May 9, 11:57 am, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Yeah, that's exactly my plan when the S-O frame arrives. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:34 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] duomatic How is the braking, and the non-braking drag, with those 2-speeds? I've been tempted to build up a backup wheel for one or both of my Riv fixed gears using these hubs because they would allow, in addition to a climbing gear, coasting with the safety of a rear brake while not requiring me to install rear calipers. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Yup. New SA Duomatic coaster brake hub waiting for frame. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jandrews_nyc Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 8:13 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] duomatic Anyone planning to go new or n.o.s. 2 speed kickback hub on their new Simpleone? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this
[RBW] Re: wanted: anyone wishing to depart with 54 rambo or similar sport tourer/rando?
I have a 650b Toei in your size that I am going to put up for sale -- as soon as I find the time to take some good pics. Let me know offlist if you're interested. Thanks, gReg On May 8, 8:44 pm, canali jwcoll...@hotmail.com wrote: hey just looking for a quality sport touring frame (that can take fenders and 28 or 32 tires) without having to buy newI have a 53 Riv atlantis...need 53ish tti stand 5'6 cheers joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Pics!!!
Maybe next year, a little later on the calendar and not conflicting w/, say Mothers Day? On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Today we wrapped up the first Riv Rally East with another spectacular ride. After yesterday's brief brush with heavy weather, we were prepared for more of the same today. Much to our delight we were greeted by the most magnificent weather...Sunny, cloudless blue skies, and cool. We sampled a few of the awesome dirt roads that traverse the hills around Wellsboro. Wow, these roads were beautiful; perfect for a Riv ride...long gradual climbs, deep woods, flowing streams, beautiful vistas, screaming descents... it had it all. Thanks to all who made the long drive out to Wellsboro from distant locations: Bruce Oppenheim and Rick Porter (Cleveland, OH) Steve Palincsar (Alexandria, VA) John Philip (Syracuse, NY) Andy Philip (Washington, DC) Norm Rosenblum (Upper Montclair, NJ) (I drove from Belle Mead, NJ) And SPECIAL THANKS to Wellsboro native Bill Yacovissi, for sharing his love of riding along these beautiful roads in this special region with a bunch of complete strangers... Thanks, Bill !!! (More photos to come - in the mean time Andy Philip posted a few nice ones... Thanks, Andy!! - http://tinyurl.com/3c2b8ly) Peace, BB On May 7, 10:43 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Today Riv Rally East kicked off with a stellar ride through the beautiful Pine Creek Gorge in North Central Pennsylvania. Our group numbered 8, with folks coming from as far away as Cleveland and Washington DC. The weather started out perfect, and remained so for the first half of the ride. But eventually the clouds rolled in and we got our first 10-minute rain shower, followed by more gorgeous weather. Then the BIG clouds rolled in, and we got a nice dousing of heavy rain, wind and lightning... NOW WE HAD OURSELVES A RIDE!!! The rain only lasted 30 minutes or so, but we were compelled to seek shelter after getting soaked for only 10 minutes. Then the weather turned gorgeous once again... such is spring in the wilds of Central PA. It was a beautiful ride through some beautiful country... Our group enjoyed today's ride; tomorrow we'll choose a slightly shorter route. By all accounts, Riv Rally East has been a success so far... There is definite interest in a Riv Rally 2012. Here are a few pics...http://tinyurl.com/66re7ty Peace, BB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
My Bleriot: About $300/ride so far, but I'm workin' it down! I must do the math on my former bikes, sounds like a fun exercise. Steve On May 8, 8:46 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Good stuff as always. Too bad about the math error in the price per ride piece. I almost don't want to point it out since it seems to have gone unnoticed so far. The difference in price per ride, with Grant's conservative numbers, is only a little more than one order of magnitude, not two: Compared to the carbon bikes $10/ride, the expensive steel bike is 250 rides per year * 20 years = 5000 rides 5000 rides / $4000 = $0.80 per ride, NOT $0.09 On the other hand, I doubt that most carbon race bikes outside of the Southwest and California get ridden 50 weeks out of the year, which would further increase the cost per ride. My $2000 Sam Hillborne gets ridden 8-12 times a week (if you count each commute leg separately, plus one or two fun rides plus errands) so for the past year and a half that I have owned it, I am already down to about $2.67 a ride (10 rides x 50 weeks x 1.5 years), and dropping. Cheers, Gernot On May 7, 1:24 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Nice buncha articles, tho' Grant's predilections come out strong. (Yay for fast, skinny tires! Yay for lower bars! Yay for race-type bikes with fenders, racks, bags, dynolights -- esp if you can match yer bags. Any YAY for good beer, home-made bread, lots of pasta and sugar in my coffee!) Anyway: I was particularly pleased with the interview with BS who comes across as less of an asshol* than you just might presume from his, admittedly very funny, blogs, and who also comes across as, undeniable, intelligent and, for our dismally uncultured age, literate. Kudos to R, RR and GP for this interview. Patrick my bars range from 2 below to 3 above saddle, my tires from 22 mm to 65 mm Moore -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] new Riv/Soma San Marcos vs Soma ES
any thoughts on how the new san marcos will ride differently from, say Riv's current relaxed riding roadbikesor even from Soma's current batch, most notably the ES or Smoothie??...or from a Gunnar? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne for the hills?
Its my thought that a bike climbs about as good as the legs powering it ! Indeed... one can only blame bike geometry so much for how hard it is get up some hills... I just like the feeling that when I'm pushing hard into the pedals, it's clearly turning into forward, upward momentum. On some longer bikes, it feels squishy, slogging or something... which might be a question of perception. Given equivalent gearing, and speed during an ascent, why do some bikes feel faster than others? Delivery date is 1st-2nd week of July. The elves in Wisconsin get the call sometime this week I was told. On May 8, 6:25 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Whoo-hoo, when's delivery??? On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 7:42 AM, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the replies! I was at Riv yesterday and asked them for a steep hill or two to climb. Tho' I'm just on the other side of the Culture-stop tunnel :-) I'm not terribly familiar with the area, like, how to get to that little known hill known as Mt Diablo. So who got on a bike to take me for a ride but Grant himself. He was on a single speed of some kind, cruiser style, but double top tube to be sure, and I took out the same 52 Sam I'd take out before. And we went up some very steep hills, paths, and a road to a nearby water tank with views of hwy 24 and Walnut Creek. I've been off my bike since early Feb and I could barely keep up with him on some ascents, and I'm in decent shape (just not bike shape). He's clearly in more decent shape. I think it doesn't climb quite like my Trek, but it's far better than the LHT. I just needed to be sure, as later I did the deed- Yikes! (The last time I bought a road bike was in 1986, and I spent 10%-- non- inflation adjusted). I decided to get the front rack and cream longboard fenders to get a really good swallow of the koolaid. So I left with a cake of pine soap, a Riv-branded plastic change purse, my credit card a bit lighter, and, later, growing feelings of anticipation. On May 4, 6:30 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: I don't find the Sam Hillborne bad at hill climbing. Although with the longer chainstays, it isn't the quickest thing in the world. Will probably feel slower than your Trek. And, like Patrick, I can feel a bit of wheel flop at certain speeds, and with certain tires. With my style of riding, it really doesn't become an issue. Spent Sunday climbing quite a few hills and at no time did the bike wander to the point where I felt unsafe, even on roads with traffic and minimal shoulders for riding. And compared to the LHT the Rivendell is a more spirited climber. Also happen to own a 26 inch wheel LHT and while stable and predictible, it will definitely not win any hill climbing contests. Unless of course, your opponent is on a Bakfiets. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On May 4, 9:53 am, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I've searched all over forum archives and can't seem to find much discussion on this question: how does the Sam climb? I'm very close to pulling the trigger on a 52 (ideally I'd ride a 54, and 56 is just a tad too big), my 26 yr old Trek 560 ready to retire, and I'm used to a more aggressive geometry for climbing the hills around here. I'll need to to test ride a Sam again, as Riv HQ isn't too handy to a steep hill. I took out a Surly LHT (52/26 in) recently up a fairly steep hill and found it sluggish. But in the meantime, I wonder what're folks' thoughts on how the Sam does on hills. TIA, TS Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front derailer for 48-38-24: Shimano, Campy, IRD?
I actually had the same problem with the IRD - the spring inside it seemed to be immensely powerful, requiring me to tighten my shifter to keep from autoshifting and requiring a lot of force to shift to a bigger chainring. I switched back to the shimano altus from 1981 that my bike originally had and it works much better for me. Maybe I'm doing something wrong- I'm something of a bike noob. On the thumb debate: I think the confusion stems from the use of the word downshift - what Ginz meant (I think) is that he had to push down on the shifter a lot in order to shift to a bigger chainring. --Alex On May 9, 10:18 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 06:30 -0700, Ginz wrote: Steve, Sorry, I wasn't clear. I hurt my thumb shifting to the big chainring. I had a habit of grabbing the bar end shifter and prying with my thumb like a can opener. I still don't see how that's possible. The shifter is usually slightly below horizontal in the middle ring and when you pull up on it with your fingers it goes to horizontal to slightly angled up. Don't see how the thumb comes into it at all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
I agree with Steve. All of my current bikes are steel now that I'm not racing anymore, however, I previously owned one of the original OCLV models. Estimating conservatively, it probably had 30K miles on it (probably closer to 50K) when I traded it to a friend (who still rides it) for a vintage Dura-Ace crankset. There are certainly horror stories of failed carbon forks and resulting injuries, but I wonder to what extent our global connectedness plays into our overall perception. When a fork failed twenty years ago, the twenty people that were in that person's riding circle knew about it...not all of cyberspace. I, for one, had an acquaintance whose steerer tube separated from his fork crown (on a steel fork), mid-race, causing substantial facial and dental injuries. I don't know anyone whose carbon fork has led to similar circumstances. Does this mean that carbon is safer? No...it's just a reminder that we can't rely on anecdotal evidence. Yes, I agree that at least 80% of riders on carbon should be on a different bike, not necessarily because it's inherently unsafe, but because the design of the bikes is inappropriate. If a carbon bike were designed sensibly, and slightly overbuilt, I might conceptually support it. Likewise, there have been steel bikes that tried to push the technological envelope too far, and have failed unpredictably and spectacularly. The steel bikes that are out there now, are typically quite conservative, and thus quite safe. I get all of the stuff about how different materials fail in different ways, however, my many years as a rider and shop mechanic (former) have led me to believe that theory and reality not the same, regarding frame materials. I think a more accurate generalization might be that well-maintained and regularly inspected bikes are less likely to have sudden failures than poorly maintained bikes that are never inspected for potential indicators--regardless of material. The other generalization that I would make is that racing bikes have become unsafe for long-term use by recreational cyclists. Companies seem much more willing to push the weight envelope on their racing frames, and the nature of carbon manufacturing and consumer (wannabe racers) demands, has put these same frames in the hands of everyday riders. I am hesitant, however, too finger a frame material, when it has more to do with design and marketing decisions that have more tightly intertwined professional racing and consumer choice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis setup help
on 5/8/11 9:08 AM, JL at subfas...@gmail.com wrote: Old bike rode great. Atlantis feels like the back end in sinking, or im riding on a flat tire (im not 60psi before and after ride). This is especially present when climbing a hill. I would take a look at the saddle nose angle as well. It sounds like it could be a hip angle difference. Dropping the nose of the saddle slightly might make a difference for you by opening up your hip angle. Hope that helps, - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com That which is overdesigned, too highly specific, anticipates outcome; the anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace. William Gibson - All Tomorrow's Parties -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
Jim's quoted text is interesting: I wonder how many of those broken carbon bits on that broken carbon site broke because of bad design? If (1) you could make a carbon fiber bike that rides as nicely as the best steel ones and, (2) you could prove that cf is just as reliable and (3) the cf frame can have both these attributes and still be lighter and reasonably priced: what's not to like? The second big defect of present cf frames is that so many of them are just fugging ugly. But I see no reason why you can't make a very nice looking monocoque cf frame and fork. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
on 5/8/11 10:05 PM, Jeremy Till at jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: Been using this setup or something similar for a few years now and really like it. Last weekend I rode it up Mt. Diablo in the 42-19 gear, flipped to the freewheel to bomb the descent, and then back to the 42-17 fixed at the bottom for the ride back to the BART. A good samaritan saw me on the side of the road and asked if i was all right, and I replied I'm fine, just shifting gears! Ha! Back on my first 200K with the Quickbeam, I was stretching a bit, flipping back from coastable to proper when a couple other randonneurs eased past. On the edge of the breeze, I heard the words ...Rivendell shift. and it has forever been in my brain. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com 'You both ride your bike?' He held his hands out and grabbed imaginary handlebars, grinning indulgently, eyeing Tom's helmet. Double disbeleif: not one, but two grown Americans riding bicycles. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
on 5/8/11 10:37 PM, A D at deguzman.al...@gmail.com wrote: Do you ride up to the peak in the 42-19 gear? I live a couple of miles from base of Mt Diablo on the Danville side but was always afraid to ride up on my low 44-19. If the 44x19 is fixed, that's a pretty good gear for it. ~62 inches? I've done it both on the fixed setup (always better for climbing) and stock coastable gearing of 40x18 (~60 inches). The last pitch up to the top is a killer for high gearing. But most of it isn't steep steep. You just have to keep calm and stay methodical and optimistic. Rest when you need to. Oh, and keep in mind that Jeremy is kind of a monster... ;^) - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes The Gallery needs your photos! Send 'em in - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I carried my bike inside the front door, a privilege earned by steady patronage. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Pics!!!
Robert: Yes, we all agreed we need to push it a little later. I'm conscious of potential conflicts with graduations and other events later in May/ June, but I do agree that we should never try to compete with Mother's Day (even though my mom and my wife/mother of my children claim to have forgiven me for my apparent mistake). In fact we're already talking about Riv Rally 2012. One idea (still in the early stages) would be to do a 2-day point-to-point light touring ride along a section of the Great Allegheny Passage trail, where we would travel by train/bike to the starting point. (Amtrak has apparently announced plans to offer roll-on/roll-off service between Washington DC and Pittsburgh beginning this summer!!!) How cool would that be??? Peace, BB On May 9, 6:57 am, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe next year, a little later on the calendar and not conflicting w/, say Mothers Day? On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Today we wrapped up the first Riv Rally East with another spectacular ride. After yesterday's brief brush with heavy weather, we were prepared for more of the same today. Much to our delight we were greeted by the most magnificent weather...Sunny, cloudless blue skies, and cool. We sampled a few of the awesome dirt roads that traverse the hills around Wellsboro. Wow, these roads were beautiful; perfect for a Riv ride...long gradual climbs, deep woods, flowing streams, beautiful vistas, screaming descents... it had it all. Thanks to all who made the long drive out to Wellsboro from distant locations: Bruce Oppenheim and Rick Porter (Cleveland, OH) Steve Palincsar (Alexandria, VA) John Philip (Syracuse, NY) Andy Philip (Washington, DC) Norm Rosenblum (Upper Montclair, NJ) (I drove from Belle Mead, NJ) And SPECIAL THANKS to Wellsboro native Bill Yacovissi, for sharing his love of riding along these beautiful roads in this special region with a bunch of complete strangers... Thanks, Bill !!! (More photos to come - in the mean time Andy Philip posted a few nice ones... Thanks, Andy!! -http://tinyurl.com/3c2b8ly) Peace, BB On May 7, 10:43 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Today Riv Rally East kicked off with a stellar ride through the beautiful Pine Creek Gorge in North Central Pennsylvania. Our group numbered 8, with folks coming from as far away as Cleveland and Washington DC. The weather started out perfect, and remained so for the first half of the ride. But eventually the clouds rolled in and we got our first 10-minute rain shower, followed by more gorgeous weather. Then the BIG clouds rolled in, and we got a nice dousing of heavy rain, wind and lightning... NOW WE HAD OURSELVES A RIDE!!! The rain only lasted 30 minutes or so, but we were compelled to seek shelter after getting soaked for only 10 minutes. Then the weather turned gorgeous once again... such is spring in the wilds of Central PA. It was a beautiful ride through some beautiful country... Our group enjoyed today's ride; tomorrow we'll choose a slightly shorter route. By all accounts, Riv Rally East has been a success so far... There is definite interest in a Riv Rally 2012. Here are a few pics...http://tinyurl.com/66re7ty Peace, BB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
One of the great pleasures of riding fixed or ss is having to plan ahead and pace yourself. Oh, and having to learn to climb standing for longer stretches. I'm good for half miles but, back when I commuted 15+ miles into work on a fixed, I was good for (yessir!) 1 mile stretches of standing. Again, pacing myself. On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:11 AM, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 5/8/11 10:37 PM, A D at deguzman.al...@gmail.com wrote: Do you ride up to the peak in the 42-19 gear? I live a couple of miles from base of Mt Diablo on the Danville side but was always afraid to ride up on my low 44-19. If the 44x19 is fixed, that's a pretty good gear for it. ~62 inches? I've done it both on the fixed setup (always better for climbing) and stock coastable gearing of 40x18 (~60 inches). The last pitch up to the top is a killer for high gearing. But most of it isn't steep steep. You just have to keep calm and stay methodical and optimistic. Rest when you need to. Oh, and keep in mind that Jeremy is kind of a monster... ;^) - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes The Gallery needs your photos! Send 'em in - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I carried my bike inside the front door, a privilege earned by steady patronage. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Break in period for factory wheels?
I recently got some nice Dura Ace road wheels and I like them. They spin smooth and are somewhat aero. I feel a lot fresher after rides (I was riding on Mavic Ksyrium Elites before). I was wondering, if wheels improve over time or miles? Is there a general break in period like 500 miles for example? Somewhere I recall reading something about bearings needing time for something... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Angel Island S24O
for an overnighter, or just to ride around for a few hours? I've only done the former, never the latter. There's a rolling paved road that circumnavigates the island (~7 miles), called Perimeter Road. I've enjoyed that road to myself on overnighters. I don't know how kooky it might be in the middle of the day with all the bike-renter-tourists on it as well. There's also a fire road that circumnavigates the island at a higher elevation so it's much shorter. It's a dirt road, so just about any bike can do fine. The old buildings on the southwest side of the island are really interesting. Bring a picnic, if you aren't camping. It was windy on one side of the island, so bring layers. Make sure you have your ferry stuff set up already, like maybe prebuy your tickets. Otherwise just take your time and have fun. On May 9, 7:07 am, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote: My wife and I are planning to go there next weekend. Any tips? We haven't been to the island before. We're going to be coming from Mountain View. Stephen On May 8, 11:54 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: One of my 2011 goals was to do 4 S24O's. This was the first. Along with my wife and two kids we voyaged to Angel Island from the East Bay via bike, bart and ferry. Turned out to be a very memorable Mother's Day. The Bombadil and the Gomez did splendidly, as expected. Video proves it happened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqgpPRaV6qo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Pics!!!
It would be very cool. I'm in. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 1:25 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Pics!!! Robert: Yes, we all agreed we need to push it a little later. I'm conscious of potential conflicts with graduations and other events later in May/ June, but I do agree that we should never try to compete with Mother's Day (even though my mom and my wife/mother of my children claim to have forgiven me for my apparent mistake). In fact we're already talking about Riv Rally 2012. One idea (still in the early stages) would be to do a 2-day point-to-point light touring ride along a section of the Great Allegheny Passage trail, where we would travel by train/bike to the starting point. (Amtrak has apparently announced plans to offer roll-on/roll-off service between Washington DC and Pittsburgh beginning this summer!!!) How cool would that be??? Peace, BB On May 9, 6:57 am, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe next year, a little later on the calendar and not conflicting w/, say Mothers Day? On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Today we wrapped up the first Riv Rally East with another spectacular ride. After yesterday's brief brush with heavy weather, we were prepared for more of the same today. Much to our delight we were greeted by the most magnificent weather...Sunny, cloudless blue skies, and cool. We sampled a few of the awesome dirt roads that traverse the hills around Wellsboro. Wow, these roads were beautiful; perfect for a Riv ride...long gradual climbs, deep woods, flowing streams, beautiful vistas, screaming descents... it had it all. Thanks to all who made the long drive out to Wellsboro from distant locations: Bruce Oppenheim and Rick Porter (Cleveland, OH) Steve Palincsar (Alexandria, VA) John Philip (Syracuse, NY) Andy Philip (Washington, DC) Norm Rosenblum (Upper Montclair, NJ) (I drove from Belle Mead, NJ) And SPECIAL THANKS to Wellsboro native Bill Yacovissi, for sharing his love of riding along these beautiful roads in this special region with a bunch of complete strangers... Thanks, Bill !!! (More photos to come - in the mean time Andy Philip posted a few nice ones... Thanks, Andy!! -http://tinyurl.com/3c2b8ly) Peace, BB On May 7, 10:43 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Today Riv Rally East kicked off with a stellar ride through the beautiful Pine Creek Gorge in North Central Pennsylvania. Our group numbered 8, with folks coming from as far away as Cleveland and Washington DC. The weather started out perfect, and remained so for the first half of the ride. But eventually the clouds rolled in and we got our first 10-minute rain shower, followed by more gorgeous weather. Then the BIG clouds rolled in, and we got a nice dousing of heavy rain, wind and lightning... NOW WE HAD OURSELVES A RIDE!!! The rain only lasted 30 minutes or so, but we were compelled to seek shelter after getting soaked for only 10 minutes. Then the weather turned gorgeous once again... such is spring in the wilds of Central PA. It was a beautiful ride through some beautiful country... Our group enjoyed today's ride; tomorrow we'll choose a slightly shorter route. By all accounts, Riv Rally East has been a success so far... There is definite interest in a Riv Rally 2012. Here are a few pics...http://tinyurl.com/66re7ty Peace, BB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting,
RE: [RBW] Break in period for factory wheels?
Some of the wheels on my rental fleet had bearings that seemed a little tight upon first spin. Most of these are Shimano. They freed up pretty quickly and run nice and smooth now. We've had little difficulty with the Ultegra Tubeless wheels we've been running. One of the rears needed a little truing, but other than that, they've stayed round and true and the bearings haven't developed play or caused us any issues. So far, we've not felt a need to play with the bearings at all. Joe Bartoe Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc. email: j...@synapticcycles.com website: www.synapticcycles.com Twitter: @synapticcycles phone: 949-374-6079 Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 10:44:21 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Break in period for factory wheels? From: zdree...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I recently got some nice Dura Ace road wheels and I like them. They spin smooth and are somewhat aero. I feel a lot fresher after rides (I was riding on Mavic Ksyrium Elites before). I was wondering, if wheels improve over time or miles? Is there a general break in period like 500 miles for example? Somewhere I recall reading something about bearings needing time for something... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pannier Anchor for Nitto R-15
Some photos on the way. On May 9, 8:23 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: Thomas, Thanks for pointing out the lack of bungee hook. I would have completely overlooked that. I also like that rack and maybe I would make a small bungee hook from a piece of scrap metal. How about some photos with your TourSacks installed!! ginz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
Carbon fiber matrix offers large performance improvement in all kinds of structures. So carbon fiber matrix has potential for maintaining the strength and stiffness required with much less mass than most metals including the three common bike frame materials. However, careful design and fabrication procedures must be followed. The implementation of carbon fiber in aircraft design has progressed to the point that large percentages airframes are carbon fiber. Jim Merz is a smart guy---smarter than I am---and maybe I'm misunderstanding what he's saying here. But---whatever the future holds for carbon, whatever its objective theoretical points of superiority---its track record is abyssmal. I wrote that article so long ago that I don't even remember izzactly what I said or how I said it, but my opinion hasn't changed, and it's not due to my general stubbornness. Carbon is chart-topping strong, but it snaps without warning, and is the most notch-sensitive of any common frame or fork material. So...UTS (ultimate tensile strength---the glamor spec of frame materials) doesn't really matter with carbon. Glass has a much higher UTS than CrMo steel, but it doesn't fail in tension. I must have said that in the column. It is unlikely that any carbon frame or fork bought in 2012 (I'm giving them time to improve it still) will be both on the road and safe on the road in 2020. Something will happen, or at least wise heads will quit riding them. Steel can break, but it breaks a different way; is the LEAST notch- sensitive of any frame material; has an enviable---and I'd guess unpassable track record. Not to mention the looksbut that's in the eye of the berider, etc. I shall now shutup and quit repeating my already well-known 'pinions. Best, G -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 08:47 -0700, Erik wrote: I agree with Steve. All of my current bikes are steel now that I'm not racing anymore, however, I previously owned one of the original OCLV models. Estimating conservatively, it probably had 30K miles on it (probably closer to 50K) when I traded it to a friend (who still rides it) for a vintage Dura-Ace crankset. There are certainly horror stories of failed carbon forks and resulting injuries, but I wonder to what extent our global connectedness plays into our overall perception. When a fork failed twenty years ago, the twenty people that were in that person's riding circle knew about it...not all of cyberspace. I, for one, had an acquaintance whose steerer tube separated from his fork crown (on a steel fork), mid-race, causing substantial facial and dental injuries. I don't know anyone whose carbon fork has led to similar circumstances. Does this mean that carbon is safer? No...it's just a reminder that we can't rely on anecdotal evidence. Yes, I agree that at least 80% of riders on carbon should be on a different bike, not necessarily because it's inherently unsafe, but because the design of the bikes is inappropriate. If a carbon bike were designed sensibly, and slightly overbuilt, I might conceptually support it. Likewise, there have been steel bikes that tried to push the technological envelope too far, and have failed unpredictably and spectacularly. The steel bikes that are out there now, are typically quite conservative, and thus quite safe. I get all of the stuff about how different materials fail in different ways, however, my many years as a rider and shop mechanic (former) have led me to believe that theory and reality not the same, regarding frame materials. I think a more accurate generalization might be that well-maintained and regularly inspected bikes are less likely to have sudden failures than poorly maintained bikes that are never inspected for potential indicators--regardless of material. The other generalization that I would make is that racing bikes have become unsafe for long-term use by recreational cyclists. Companies seem much more willing to push the weight envelope on their racing frames, and the nature of carbon manufacturing and consumer (wannabe racers) demands, has put these same frames in the hands of everyday riders. I am hesitant, however, too finger a frame material, when it has more to do with design and marketing decisions that have more tightly intertwined professional racing and consumer choice. And I agree with every single one of your points! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Front derailer for 48-38-24: Shimano, Campy, IRD?
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 08:45 -0700, Alex wrote: On the thumb debate: I think the confusion stems from the use of the word downshift - what Ginz meant (I think) is that he had to push down on the shifter a lot in order to shift to a bigger chainring. You do not push down on the shifter to shift to a bigger chain ring. You lift the lever up. Pushing down on a bar end shifter shifts you into a smaller chain ring -- unless you are running one of the backwards acting Sun Tours - an SL or a Compe V, and there are very few of those still out there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv reader, playthings?
my bicycles are both daily transportation and recreation, and i shudder at the notion that the thought of increased frequencies of basic maintenance on a utilitarian bicycle prevents people from riding them as such. 'three cheers for expensive toys' that aren't coddled, primped, and otherwise treated like museum pieces. i'll leave my roughed up bicycle frames to somebody else who'll ride the hell out of them. i've plenty of friends who ride the hell out of old roughed up bicycle frames (and do better than most of us out on trails). no harm done by not riding, but geez don't let needing to spay some lube on your derailleur stop you from riding through the rain and muck. let alone turning the keys, i shudder at the thought of paying somebody to maintain my car for me (to contrast against the comparatively simple act of bicycle maintenance). time to ride, erik On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 12:29 PM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: They really are unnecessary devices for the most part. I suppose if you use your bicycle as a commuter and a general way of getting around it becomes more of a tool but it soon takes on that grungy look of your 1992 Suzuki automobile sitting in the driveway. I find the maintenance issues that surround real high mileage riding quickly turn bicycling into something less than fun..for me. I like riding a pretty bicycle on a sunny day and I have no guilt about it.life is too short not to enjoy it now. Three cheers for expensive toys !!! I'm leaving mine to whomever can appreciate them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Angel Island S24O
We're camping. My wife was looking and it seemed like the tickets were more expensive pre-bought as we'd get a discount with the camping. Good call on the layers. We'll make sure we're equipped appropriately. Thanks Stephen On May 9, 10:14 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: for an overnighter, or just to ride around for a few hours? I've only done the former, never the latter. There's a rolling paved road that circumnavigates the island (~7 miles), called Perimeter Road. I've enjoyed that road to myself on overnighters. I don't know how kooky it might be in the middle of the day with all the bike-renter-tourists on it as well. There's also a fire road that circumnavigates the island at a higher elevation so it's much shorter. It's a dirt road, so just about any bike can do fine. The old buildings on the southwest side of the island are really interesting. Bring a picnic, if you aren't camping. It was windy on one side of the island, so bring layers. Make sure you have your ferry stuff set up already, like maybe prebuy your tickets. Otherwise just take your time and have fun. On May 9, 7:07 am, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote: My wife and I are planning to go there next weekend. Any tips? We haven't been to the island before. We're going to be coming from Mountain View. Stephen On May 8, 11:54 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: One of my 2011 goals was to do 4 S24O's. This was the first. Along with my wife and two kids we voyaged to Angel Island from the East Bay via bike, bart and ferry. Turned out to be a very memorable Mother's Day. The Bombadil and the Gomez did splendidly, as expected. Video proves it happened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqgpPRaV6qo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front derailer for 48-38-24: Shimano, Campy, IRD?
Steve P How can you not use your thumb? Do you really shift your left barcon by lifting it with your fingers while your thumb is floating in the air? I tried manipulating my left barcon without using my thumb, and it feels awkward and terribly imprecise, not to mention pointless. I don't have any thumb-wrenching ligament ripping problem with any of my barcon bikes, but I never shift the left without my thumb being involved. I posted a camera phone youtube to show what I mean. I can't NOT use my thumb. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU8vbx7v5ok That's what Ginz means by 'prying like can opener' Bill On May 9, 12:10 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 08:45 -0700, Alex wrote: On the thumb debate: I think the confusion stems from the use of the word downshift - what Ginz meant (I think) is that he had to push down on the shifter a lot in order to shift to a bigger chainring. You do not push down on the shifter to shift to a bigger chain ring. You lift the lever up. Pushing down on a bar end shifter shifts you into a smaller chain ring -- unless you are running one of the backwards acting Sun Tours - an SL or a Compe V, and there are very few of those still out there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Front derailer for 48-38-24: Shimano, Campy, IRD?
can i have your old xt? i love old fd's! erik On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 08:45 -0700, Alex wrote: On the thumb debate: I think the confusion stems from the use of the word downshift - what Ginz meant (I think) is that he had to push down on the shifter a lot in order to shift to a bigger chainring. You do not push down on the shifter to shift to a bigger chain ring. You lift the lever up. Pushing down on a bar end shifter shifts you into a smaller chain ring -- unless you are running one of the backwards acting Sun Tours - an SL or a Compe V, and there are very few of those still out there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- oakland, ca bikenoir.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Front derailer for 48-38-24: Shimano, Campy, IRD?
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 12:57 -0700, William wrote: Steve P How can you not use your thumb? Do you really shift your left barcon by lifting it with your fingers while your thumb is floating in the air? I tried manipulating my left barcon without using my thumb, and it feels awkward and terribly imprecise, not to mention pointless. I don't have any thumb-wrenching ligament ripping problem with any of my barcon bikes, but I never shift the left without my thumb being involved. Often I grip the bar end with my left hand and work the shifters with my pinkie and ring finger. When the thumb is involved, it's just as a stabilizer, no pushing is involved. If things are set up correctly, it doesn't require a whole lot of force at the shifter. I posted a camera phone youtube to show what I mean. I can't NOT use my thumb. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU8vbx7v5ok That's what Ginz means by 'prying like can opener' I've seen the movie, but frankly I don't understand how or why you hold the shifter that way while actually riding the bike. (And by the way, what kind of can opener works like that? None I'm familiar with. Ah - it just came to me: a churchkey! Not at all what I thought of as a can opener.) I grab hold of the bar end using the palm, thumb and first two fingers, wrapping my hand around the bar end. I then hook my ring finger and pinke around the shifter. If I need downward pressure, I mash down on the pad at the very base of my thumb. Lift with the two fingers on the shifter to upshift. To downshift, I catch the lever between the pinkie and the ring finger. Mash down with the pinkie. Some wrist rotation may be involved as well, pivoting the wrist on the pad at the base of the thumb. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Front derailer for 48-38-24: Shimano, Campy, IRD?
For a 9 speed the Shimano 105 works best, even better than the ultegra triples. Shimano's front derailleur has a maximum range of 22 teeth. Your 48 to 24 range is 2 teeth beyond the official limit. No problem, I run a 50 large ring to a 26 granny gear which is also a 24 tooth spread. You'll find the 105 to be the best although other derailleurs such as the xt, ultegra etc. will also do the job.. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:45 AM, BCDrums bcdr...@comcast.net wrote: My bike has a Shimano XT front derailer from 1990. It has given good service, but I'd like to change it out. Rivendell and Harris Cyclery sell the IRD for this setup. I have read raves about the Campy Racing T, but it seems to be gone. I am not sure which Shimano is the appropriate replacement. I read somewhere that the IRD is a copy of an Ultegra, is that the case? I shift with Shimano bar-ends, and my bike has 1.25 tubes. Since I only change front ders every 20 years, I'd like to get a great one and be done with it. Any recommendations appreciated! BC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Riv Rally East Group Pool
I've created a flickr group pool for photos and discussion of the Riv Rally East 2011: http://www.flickr.com/groups/1691409@N23/ Those who have posted photos have been sent an invitation to join, but if you have photos and haven't posted yet, please do join. And if you're not on flickr yet, please join. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
I think a Rivendell Reader interview with the proprietor of Ruckus Components (Shawn) would be interesting. He's a smart, engaging engineer, with decided views on carbon fiber (pro) and the bicycle industry's use of it (negative? mixed?). He repairs carbon fiber bikes. He's deconstructed a lot of CF bikes, and says there's no correlation between brand reputation and quality of design or execution. I toured his facility with some Portland bike builders, and he made a good case. Two steel is real builders left going, dang, that changed my perception of carbon fiber. Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On May 9, 2:49 pm, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: Carbon fiber matrix offers large performance improvement in all kinds of structures. So carbon fiber matrix has potential for maintaining the strength and stiffness required with much less mass than most metals including the three common bike frame materials. However, careful design and fabrication procedures must be followed. The implementation of carbon fiber in aircraft design has progressed to the point that large percentages airframes are carbon fiber. Jim Merz is a smart guy---smarter than I am---and maybe I'm misunderstanding what he's saying here. But---whatever the future holds for carbon, whatever its objective theoretical points of superiority---its track record is abyssmal. I wrote that article so long ago that I don't even remember izzactly what I said or how I said it, but my opinion hasn't changed, and it's not due to my general stubbornness. Carbon is chart-topping strong, but it snaps without warning, and is the most notch-sensitive of any common frame or fork material. So...UTS (ultimate tensile strength---the glamor spec of frame materials) doesn't really matter with carbon. Glass has a much higher UTS than CrMo steel, but it doesn't fail in tension. I must have said that in the column. It is unlikely that any carbon frame or fork bought in 2012 (I'm giving them time to improve it still) will be both on the road and safe on the road in 2020. Something will happen, or at least wise heads will quit riding them. Steel can break, but it breaks a different way; is the LEAST notch- sensitive of any frame material; has an enviable---and I'd guess unpassable track record. Not to mention the looksbut that's in the eye of the berider, etc. I shall now shutup and quit repeating my already well-known 'pinions. Best, G -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Black Rose Messenger bag $75/OBO
link to review and pictures - http://midatlbike.wordpress.com/2011/04/01/black-rose-messenger-bag/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Pashley Tube Rider Complete Bike, new post
Still for sale! Make me an offer. On May 5, 6:52 pm, williwoods willh...@yahoo.com wrote: I have this gorgeousPashleyTube Rider Double Scoop in Pink/ Tourquoise Upgrades include: Nitto Periscopa stem, Nitto bars, mks touring pedals, shimano brake levers, cork grips, a suntour thumbshifter used in friction mode, and basket. I have the original twist shifter and grips as well as the original beach cruiser style bars. All will be included. This was the last one imported from the uk back in '10. I am not sure if these are available anymore state-side from apashleydealer. I was told last year that the us distributer wasn't importing them anymore. perfect shape not a blemish to be found. no dents cracks etc. there are scuff marks here and there on the pedals and crank arms, just the normal wear. always stored indoors ridden about 1000 miles. wheels are true, everything works perfect. My wife doesnt really ride it much anymore, since she got a go-fast bike. $550 Bike only, shipping is extra, I got a quote on shipping via ups/ fedex says it will be around $80 to the east coast (depending on location could be cheaper), local pickup is also an option. perfect town bike. http://www.flickr.com/photos/willhrtn/sets/72157626556037328/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Acorn Boxy Rando bag
Hi Ryan: Thanks for the link and information. The Velo Orange decaleur looks very interesting. I had my eye on them from the beginning. I like the idea of the quick release. You've been tremendously helpful. I love that bike too! :-p Jodi On May 8, 10:49 am, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Yup, I'm using a Velo Orange decaleur that fits on the steerer tube. Swift had the bag on hand, so no wait! (I didn't care what it looked like; that said, it looks great!). Alex Wetmore has a nice writeup for a similar setup:http://alexwetmore.org/?p=439 The real trick for me is getting the bag away from the bars so it doesn't interfere with hands on top, so either the bag has to be below the handlebars (which can be tough when the bag is tall or the bars aren't really high) or pushed away an inch or so by the decaleur. I compared the top to bottom measurement for the bag and then from the rack to the decaleur. You've got the bars pretty high so I don't think that interference with the bars (or, in your case, the interrupter levers) will be a problem. The Velo Orange decaleur that mounts to a 1 headset stack on your Hilsen would work well, I think. A Berthoud decaleur (which mounts to the stem bolt) might not be long enough with the Swift bag (because you've got a long way from the stem to the rack). I love that bike by the way. Ryan On May 7, 9:50 pm, Zaelia caddic...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ryan: Looks very nice. Mind me asking what your setup is and how long it took to receive your Swift Ozette after placing your order? Is that a Velo Orange decaleur kit? Would you be willing to write a little something outlining the setup process? Thanks On May 6, 5:26 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: I just got one. http://www.flickr.com/photos/30684316@N08/5682342304/in/photostream Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] UPDATE - 64cm Trek TX500 Custom, NOS Sugino AT, Phil BB, Nitto Dirt Drop
Update - the bike, crankset and stem are SOLD. The Phil BB is still available. How about $65 shipped for that? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
AD, yeah, i went all the way up to the peak--i only ever ride diablo about once a year, so when i do, I like to go all the way. Although I did walk the steep bit in the last hundred meters or so up to the parking lot. In general, yeah, what Jim says--stay calm, get comfortable pushing the cranks over at lower RPMs. Don't be afraid to stop and catch your breath for a few seconds, or use your 24 inch gear (get it?). On May 9, 10:11 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 5/8/11 10:37 PM, A D at deguzman.al...@gmail.com wrote: Do you ride up to the peak in the 42-19 gear? I live a couple of miles from base of Mt Diablo on the Danville side but was always afraid to ride up on my low 44-19. If the 44x19 is fixed, that's a pretty good gear for it. ~62 inches? I've done it both on the fixed setup (always better for climbing) and stock coastable gearing of 40x18 (~60 inches). The last pitch up to the top is a killer for high gearing. But most of it isn't steep steep. You just have to keep calm and stay methodical and optimistic. Rest when you need to. Oh, and keep in mind that Jeremy is kind of a monster... ;^) - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes The Gallery needs your photos! Send 'em in - Here's how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I carried my bike inside the front door, a privilege earned by steady patronage. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 600K Brevet
Riding on lugged steel with friction shifting! My video of this weekend's brevet from San Francisco to Fort Bragg and back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW3OfkYeo2Q --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Innit the cutest li'l rack you ever saw?
Mine did the same exact thing with a pretty minimal load. On May 6, 10:25 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: On May 6, 6:56 am, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: I'm surprised more folks aren't using the Gran Compe ENE front rack, which is even more diminutive than yours (and fender friendly). maybe because it's for centerpulls only? Hi Patrick. I can't say I'd recommend the GC ENE for anything but the light side of light duty. I was riding down a trail last summer on my ENE-equipped Quickbeam, when the tang ends snapped right where they mount around the brake bolt. At the time, I was using the rack to support a Berthoud Mini 86, which carried cards/keys/cash, a pastry, mesh gloves, a summer-weight ls layer, cellphone, and first aid kit. Not much of a load, imo. I was disappointed. Note that the Mini 86 bag does not use a decauleur. So, the ENE rack may work for supporting bags that have a decauleur or use handlebar straps. Personally, I'd still be skeptical. Anyway, I've kept the repaired, reinforced rack on my QB, but I only use it occasionally. When I do, I take care to load it lightly. Here are the visuals... The break:http://tinyurl.com/5rzgt7khttp://tinyurl.com/69bbv3jhttp://tinyurl.com/3wcvvyc Side-by-side with replacement:http://tinyurl.com/3cb8nv2 Fixed rack:http://tinyurl.com/3nm5enx Happy Friday, all, Lee SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 600K Brevet
Great job Eric. Hopefully I can tame that beast next year. On May 9, 6:17 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Riding on lugged steel with friction shifting! My video of this weekend's brevet from San Francisco to Fort Bragg and back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW3OfkYeo2Q --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 600K Brevet
I have a lot of admiration for the PBP guys. Keep up the good work. Don C. On May 9, 6:17 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Riding on lugged steel with friction shifting! My video of this weekend's brevet from San Francisco to Fort Bragg and back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW3OfkYeo2Q --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: duomatic
How did it break? Well, I did some things with it that I arguably should not have: http://www.flickr.com/photos/edrabbit/5682255789/in/faves-sofauxboho/ Which lead to problems: http://www.flickr.com/photos/edrabbit/5682260605/in/set-72157626511121539/ While resist-pedaling on the downslope of one of those mounds my S3X low gear (a 43 or so incher) let go. A couple miles later my middle gear gave up as well, leaving me with only top. The shop I bought it from said that one should be able to skid the rear wheel on that hub and replaced it with an entirely new hand-built wheel. It seems either the original hub was bad, it was adjusted wrong, or the cable stretched and it went out of adjustment. My money is on that last one. So far the new one has about 40 miles on it and it has behaved well so far, though I'll admit I'm rather babying at the moment. Just remember that the rougher you're going the more certain you have to be that your hub is adjusted perfectly. Oh, and remember these things have significant drive train lash. If you buy one without knowing that you'll likely be disappointed. But I like mine! Reed On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Reed, how did your S3X break? I was just looking at doing some silly things to mine, which got me wondering if there was a gear that would be too low for the internals. Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On May 7, 2:59 pm, Reed Kennedy atinyt...@gmail.com wrote: After breaking my first Sturmey S3X three speed fix hub I was super excited by the prospect of replacing it with a S2c duomatic kick shift hub. I went out to Mission Bicycles here in San Francisco where they even had a S2-hubed-bike (the one without the coaster brake) in stock. They were happy to let me try it out, but they warned it was not the most user friendly of things. Hard to shift, and hard to know if you shifted, they said. Pah! I said. I'm sure an old hand like myself will have no troubles! And off I went. Indeed, by the time I got back (a couple miles later) I could shift reliably 50-75% of the time. I was feeling quite accomplished. Then I thought: How much do I really want a heavy, inefficient, difficult to operate, potentially fragile hub that only gives a 38% range? No Duomatics for me, thanks. I'll stick with either a true single speed or a bigger range, like a Sturmey 5 or a Alfine 8. (Or, if you are looking for something silly, a S3X. My second one now has 30 miles on it and is doing fine so far.) Best, Reed On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 5:12 PM, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone planning to go new or n.o.s. 2 speed kickback hub on their new Simpleone? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Group Pool
Can someone pass along the name of the stem and bars on the orange Sam ? On May 9, 5:16 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: I've created a flickr group pool for photos and discussion of the Riv Rally East 2011: http://www.flickr.com/groups/1691409@N23/ Those who have posted photos have been sent an invitation to join, but if you have photos and haven't posted yet, please do join. And if you're not on flickr yet, please join. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front derailer for 48-38-24: Shimano, Campy, IRD?
Picked the IRD up at the LBS today, they said they had plenty of 'em. It's listed on the IRD site and the Harris Cyclery site as available. Will put it on the bike next rainy day and see what it can do. (Shift, I imagine...) BC On May 8, 10:26 am, Saturday Mark saturdaycyc...@gmail.com wrote: The IRD triple is great, however it has been out of stock for quite some time. Good luck finding one. The current Tiagra triple seems to work fine. Other than that you are probably going to have to scour Ebay and Craigslist... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: Nitto Mini Front Rack
Anyone want to part with a mini front rack? (The one with a threaded rod that fits through the hole in the fork crown.) I'll pay shipping. Thanks, Paul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Group Pool
Nitto Bullmoose Bars, exclusively through RIvendell... One piece stem and bar. I have em, I love em. These are the 150mm version (not the 200mm) BB On May 9, 7:41 pm, Skip cejud...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone pass along the name of the stem and bars on the orange Sam ? On May 9, 5:16 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: I've created a flickr group pool for photos and discussion of the Riv Rally East 2011: http://www.flickr.com/groups/1691409@N23/ Those who have posted photos have been sent an invitation to join, but if you have photos and haven't posted yet, please do join. And if you're not on flickr yet, please join. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Angel Island S24O
I did my first real S24O last year on Angel Island as well with my son and daughter. We took Caltrain from Palo Alto, rode to the Ferry and then rode both the paved and dirt trails on the island. It was a lot of fun but it was very windy and chilly when exposed. Our campsite was on the west side with views of San Francisco. We went in the Fall, but I'd definitely bring layers. IIRC, we had to buy the ferry tickets in addition to reserving the campsite. René Sent from my iPad On May 9, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote: We're camping. My wife was looking and it seemed like the tickets were more expensive pre-bought as we'd get a discount with the camping. Good call on the layers. We'll make sure we're equipped appropriately. Thanks Stephen On May 9, 10:14 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: for an overnighter, or just to ride around for a few hours? I've only done the former, never the latter. There's a rolling paved road that circumnavigates the island (~7 miles), called Perimeter Road. I've enjoyed that road to myself on overnighters. I don't know how kooky it might be in the middle of the day with all the bike-renter-tourists on it as well. There's also a fire road that circumnavigates the island at a higher elevation so it's much shorter. It's a dirt road, so just about any bike can do fine. The old buildings on the southwest side of the island are really interesting. Bring a picnic, if you aren't camping. It was windy on one side of the island, so bring layers. Make sure you have your ferry stuff set up already, like maybe prebuy your tickets. Otherwise just take your time and have fun. On May 9, 7:07 am, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote: My wife and I are planning to go there next weekend. Any tips? We haven't been to the island before. We're going to be coming from Mountain View. Stephen On May 8, 11:54 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: One of my 2011 goals was to do 4 S24O's. This was the first. Along with my wife and two kids we voyaged to Angel Island from the East Bay via bike, bart and ferry. Turned out to be a very memorable Mother's Day. The Bombadil and the Gomez did splendidly, as expected. Video proves it happened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqgpPRaV6qo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Innit the cutest li'l rack you ever saw?
Hey Minh. I've never used one of the Mafac mini-racks, so I can't comment. I know that the pivot bolts on the centerpulls differ by a few mm from the Dia Compe 750/610s. You can find pics of people using the Mafac mini-rack on Flickr. You may want to post a question there. My apologies for drifting further and further off-topic. Lee SF, CA On May 7, 7:08 am, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. I've had one of these ta racks for about ten years and didn't know how to attach it. Will it only work on the mafac center pulls? What can these support, they're pretty flimsy when I compare it to a nitto mini. On May 6, 3:39 pm, Lee Chae leec...@stanford.edu wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: In any event, I'm big on smaller racks like these, especially for handlebar bags/other light front loads. wish there were more options. I like the idea of these small type of racks, too. I just wish Dia Compe used the TA mini-rack design for the mounting tang, which in hindsight, makes a lot more sense to me: http://tinyurl.com/4ycjlv2 My fortified ENE rack is much more robust than the original, so I'm going to keep using it with light loads on the Quickbeam. Again in hindsight, washers might have made a difference, thanks for pointing that out. Best, Lee SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Angel Island S24O
Oh yeah. I took campsite reservation as a given. I booked mine like last October. On May 9, 8:23 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: I did my first real S24O last year on Angel Island as well with my son and daughter. We took Caltrain from Palo Alto, rode to the Ferry and then rode both the paved and dirt trails on the island. It was a lot of fun but it was very windy and chilly when exposed. Our campsite was on the west side with views of San Francisco. We went in the Fall, but I'd definitely bring layers. IIRC, we had to buy the ferry tickets in addition to reserving the campsite. René Sent from my iPad On May 9, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote: We're camping. My wife was looking and it seemed like the tickets were more expensive pre-bought as we'd get a discount with the camping. Good call on the layers. We'll make sure we're equipped appropriately. Thanks Stephen On May 9, 10:14 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: for an overnighter, or just to ride around for a few hours? I've only done the former, never the latter. There's a rolling paved road that circumnavigates the island (~7 miles), called Perimeter Road. I've enjoyed that road to myself on overnighters. I don't know how kooky it might be in the middle of the day with all the bike-renter-tourists on it as well. There's also a fire road that circumnavigates the island at a higher elevation so it's much shorter. It's a dirt road, so just about any bike can do fine. The old buildings on the southwest side of the island are really interesting. Bring a picnic, if you aren't camping. It was windy on one side of the island, so bring layers. Make sure you have your ferry stuff set up already, like maybe prebuy your tickets. Otherwise just take your time and have fun. On May 9, 7:07 am, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote: My wife and I are planning to go there next weekend. Any tips? We haven't been to the island before. We're going to be coming from Mountain View. Stephen On May 8, 11:54 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: One of my 2011 goals was to do 4 S24O's. This was the first. Along with my wife and two kids we voyaged to Angel Island from the East Bay via bike, bart and ferry. Turned out to be a very memorable Mother's Day. The Bombadil and the Gomez did splendidly, as expected. Video proves it happened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqgpPRaV6qo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
On May 9, 11:49 am, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: It is unlikely that any carbon frame or fork bought in 2012 (I'm giving them time to improve it still) will be both on the road and safe on the road in 2020. Something will happen, or at least wise heads will quit riding them. That seems to me to be an overly pessimistic assessment. I still occasionally see Trek 2300's (CF tubes glued to aluminum lugs) from the early 90's (maybe late 80's?) on the road after some 20 years. Craig Calfee warrantees his frames for 25 years. I suspect quite a few of them will still be on the road in eight years. I wouldn't use a CF frame for touring, shopping, commuting, or back road/off road exploring, steel still makes sense for those purposes. It's no surprise that most of Rivendell's current bikes are suited to just those sorts of rides. When I ride solo, or with a load, or down dirt roads or trails, or with a friend on a casual ride I ride steel. Last Saturday I rode my 1995 Riv Road 62 solo miles with 4500 ft vertical and lots of steep hills and had a lovely time. But I also own a Calfee that I use for for fast, unloaded riding with my bike club. It doesn't need to be versatile, I have other bikes for that. Fenders, racks and baggage would only detract from its intended function, so it doesn't need eyelets to mount any of those things. Its 25 mm tires are wide enough to handle the many miles of decent paved roads within reach of my home. I'm not overly concerned about its longevity, it only gets a couple of thousand miles a year so it should last a long time. All the same, I'm careful not to abuse it. I don't abuse my steel bikes either. I'm also not so worried about cost per ride, or all I'd ride would be Miyata 1000 I bought in 1983 and still ride as a commuter. The cost per ride is low for that bike, but the fun per dollar isn't all that high either. Different tools, different materials for different purposes. Now, can't we all just get along? Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 600K Brevet
HA! I was the ..uhh riding companion with the fenders. Glad to see I made the final edit. It was good riding with you Eric. See you in France. Gabe On May 9, 6:17 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Riding on lugged steel with friction shifting! My video of this weekend's brevet from San Francisco to Fort Bragg and back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW3OfkYeo2Q --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 600K Brevet
Eric, great video. That's tough riding through the night. Well done on finishing your SR series. Are you confirmed for PBP? I'm curious, in the video you mention collecting receipts at controls, don't you guys use brevet cards and just get them signed at the open controls? Do you guys use info controls? I did the Oregon Randonneurs Coastal 600k this weekend, we had 13 controls, 5 of which were info controls. It sure looks like you folks had nice weather. Our weather wasn't bad by Oregon standards but still there was a lot of rain and a lot wind. At our overnight control I slept for 5hrs. I probably could have slept less but I don't really like riding at night. I got into the over- night control soaking wet and very hungry at 11pm. After food and a shower I was asleep by midnight and back on the road by 5:30am. Perhaps if it hadn't been so wet and windy I would have ridden through the night but I would have missed some of the best scenery of the trip. Like you I also had BB trouble. It developed a horrible creak. This was my first brevet NOT on a Rivendell. I rode my new Bryant which was great. Here's some pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157626679099612/ I had this song stuck in my head for the entire second day. It wasn't so bad but still seemed like such a random song to have going in your head over and over and over... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aumejrcEHs --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 600K Brevet
Bonne route! --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On May 9, 2011, at 8:58 PM, oldmangabe wrote: HA! I was the ..uhh riding companion with the fenders. Glad to see I made the final edit. It was good riding with you Eric. See you in France. Gabe On May 9, 6:17 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Riding on lugged steel with friction shifting! My video of this weekend's brevet from San Francisco to Fort Bragg and back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW3OfkYeo2Q --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 600K Brevet
Real nice video of the 32 hour adventure! Thanks for putting those together. Congratulations (and you to, Mike and Gabe!)!! On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, great video. That's tough riding through the night. Well done on finishing your SR series. Are you confirmed for PBP? I'm curious, in the video you mention collecting receipts at controls, don't you guys use brevet cards and just get them signed at the open controls? Do you guys use info controls? I did the Oregon Randonneurs Coastal 600k this weekend, we had 13 controls, 5 of which were info controls. It sure looks like you folks had nice weather. Our weather wasn't bad by Oregon standards but still there was a lot of rain and a lot wind. At our overnight control I slept for 5hrs. I probably could have slept less but I don't really like riding at night. I got into the over- night control soaking wet and very hungry at 11pm. After food and a shower I was asleep by midnight and back on the road by 5:30am. Perhaps if it hadn't been so wet and windy I would have ridden through the night but I would have missed some of the best scenery of the trip. Like you I also had BB trouble. It developed a horrible creak. This was my first brevet NOT on a Rivendell. I rode my new Bryant which was great. Here's some pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157626679099612/ I had this song stuck in my head for the entire second day. It wasn't so bad but still seemed like such a random song to have going in your head over and over and over... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aumejrcEHs --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
My two cents.. I road carbon for 10 years and never had any problems with it. Bikes were beautiful as well as racing machine beauty goes. They were not good for general riding and as stated a one trick pony. The Rivendell to Me is for a different style of riding... Not at jeep or corvette but fills the vast ground in-between. For it's given purpose the steel frame is the best.. Cf cant compete..just as the steel with bar ends will not and can not compete in racing events. I've replaced three cf bikes in those ten years. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: duomatic
Brilliant. Thanks for the update. Barring a pedal strike, I would expect the S3X to handle those mounds. I agree with you on the cable stretch - on the Oregon Manifest challenge (77 miles of mixed terrain with steepness), Chris Igleheart lost a gear on his S3X, but it turned out to be a shifter problem, and easily fixed. The bike: http://bikesareborn.blogspot.com/2010/02/nahbs-2010-sturmey-archer-s3x.html After riding my S3X for a few weeks, I find it a lot easier to shift (my shifter is inconveniently located), and the lash (almost) doesn't bother me. It's 90% of what a fixed gear should be, and 300% of what a fixed gear usually is. Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On May 9, 6:56 pm, Reed Kennedy atinyt...@gmail.com wrote: How did it break? Well, I did some things with it that I arguably should not have:http://www.flickr.com/photos/edrabbit/5682255789/in/faves-sofauxboho/ Which lead to problems:http://www.flickr.com/photos/edrabbit/5682260605/in/set-7215762651112... While resist-pedaling on the downslope of one of those mounds my S3X low gear (a 43 or so incher) let go. A couple miles later my middle gear gave up as well, leaving me with only top. The shop I bought it from said that one should be able to skid the rear wheel on that hub and replaced it with an entirely new hand-built wheel. It seems either the original hub was bad, it was adjusted wrong, or the cable stretched and it went out of adjustment. My money is on that last one. So far the new one has about 40 miles on it and it has behaved well so far, though I'll admit I'm rather babying at the moment. Just remember that the rougher you're going the more certain you have to be that your hub is adjusted perfectly. Oh, and remember these things have significant drive train lash. If you buy one without knowing that you'll likely be disappointed. But I like mine! Reed On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Reed, how did your S3X break? I was just looking at doing some silly things to mine, which got me wondering if there was a gear that would be too low for the internals. Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On May 7, 2:59 pm, Reed Kennedy atinyt...@gmail.com wrote: After breaking my first Sturmey S3X three speed fix hub I was super excited by the prospect of replacing it with a S2c duomatic kick shift hub. I went out to Mission Bicycles here in San Francisco where they even had a S2-hubed-bike (the one without the coaster brake) in stock. They were happy to let me try it out, but they warned it was not the most user friendly of things. Hard to shift, and hard to know if you shifted, they said. Pah! I said. I'm sure an old hand like myself will have no troubles! And off I went. Indeed, by the time I got back (a couple miles later) I could shift reliably 50-75% of the time. I was feeling quite accomplished. Then I thought: How much do I really want a heavy, inefficient, difficult to operate, potentially fragile hub that only gives a 38% range? No Duomatics for me, thanks. I'll stick with either a true single speed or a bigger range, like a Sturmey 5 or a Alfine 8. (Or, if you are looking for something silly, a S3X. My second one now has 30 miles on it and is doing fine so far.) Best, Reed On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 5:12 PM, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone planning to go new or n.o.s. 2 speed kickback hub on their new Simpleone? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Angel Island S24O
Actually, doing some re-checking, it turns out we went on the 4th of July weekend and it was cold from the wind. Quite windy. I'm going to take advantage of your post to book another weekend... Have fun!!! Rene Sent from my iPad On May 9, 2011, at 8:31 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Oh yeah. I took campsite reservation as a given. I booked mine like last October. On May 9, 8:23 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: I did my first real S24O last year on Angel Island as well with my son and daughter. We took Caltrain from Palo Alto, rode to the Ferry and then rode both the paved and dirt trails on the island. It was a lot of fun but it was very windy and chilly when exposed. Our campsite was on the west side with views of San Francisco. We went in the Fall, but I'd definitely bring layers. IIRC, we had to buy the ferry tickets in addition to reserving the campsite. René Sent from my iPad On May 9, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote: We're camping. My wife was looking and it seemed like the tickets were more expensive pre-bought as we'd get a discount with the camping. Good call on the layers. We'll make sure we're equipped appropriately. Thanks Stephen On May 9, 10:14 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: for an overnighter, or just to ride around for a few hours? I've only done the former, never the latter. There's a rolling paved road that circumnavigates the island (~7 miles), called Perimeter Road. I've enjoyed that road to myself on overnighters. I don't know how kooky it might be in the middle of the day with all the bike-renter-tourists on it as well. There's also a fire road that circumnavigates the island at a higher elevation so it's much shorter. It's a dirt road, so just about any bike can do fine. The old buildings on the southwest side of the island are really interesting. Bring a picnic, if you aren't camping. It was windy on one side of the island, so bring layers. Make sure you have your ferry stuff set up already, like maybe prebuy your tickets. Otherwise just take your time and have fun. On May 9, 7:07 am, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote: My wife and I are planning to go there next weekend. Any tips? We haven't been to the island before. We're going to be coming from Mountain View. Stephen On May 8, 11:54 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: One of my 2011 goals was to do 4 S24O's. This was the first. Along with my wife and two kids we voyaged to Angel Island from the East Bay via bike, bart and ferry. Turned out to be a very memorable Mother's Day. The Bombadil and the Gomez did splendidly, as expected. Video proves it happened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqgpPRaV6qo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] drivetrain
Hi, I am about to install Dura Ace down tube shifters and wonder which rear derailleur works the best? Of course I plan to use pancake cassette. I assume XT with normal pull? Also is 9 speed is feasible with this specific set up? Thanks in advance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
Thanks. My commute ends with a 3/4 mile stretch where I'm grinding up a pretty steep hill with a 48/16 FW gear. I may change my inner ring to a 42t and give it a shot on Memorial Day weekend. Do you change up your bike before you ride up? Change out your wheels, remove racks and fenders or lighten up the bike in any way? On May 9, 5:42 pm, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: AD, yeah, i went all the way up to the peak--i only ever ride diablo about once a year, so when i do, I like to go all the way. Although I did walk the steep bit in the last hundred meters or so up to the parking lot. In general, yeah, what Jim says--stay calm, get comfortable pushing the cranks over at lower RPMs. Don't be afraid to stop and catch your breath for a few seconds, or use your 24 inch gear (get it?). On May 9, 10:11 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 5/8/11 10:37 PM, A D at deguzman.al...@gmail.com wrote: Do you ride up to the peak in the 42-19 gear? I live a couple of miles from base of Mt Diablo on the Danville side but was always afraid to ride up on my low 44-19. If the 44x19 is fixed, that's a pretty good gear for it. ~62 inches? I've done it both on the fixed setup (always better for climbing) and stock coastable gearing of 40x18 (~60 inches). The last pitch up to the top is a killer for high gearing. But most of it isn't steep steep. You just have to keep calm and stay methodical and optimistic. Rest when you need to. Oh, and keep in mind that Jeremy is kind of a monster... ;^) - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes The Gallery needs your photos! Send 'em in - Here's how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I carried my bike inside the front door, a privilege earned by steady patronage. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?
On May 6, 9:48 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Because they negate the function of a quick release. While I have filed many a fork tip (actually a disk grinder does the job in a few seconds, but one needs to be especially careful), I wouldn't go so far as to say that lawyer lips negate the function of a quick release. The wheel can still be removed without a wrench, which seems to be the major objective. Given the willingness of contributors to this site to value almost anything over speed, the extra ten seconds needed to loosen the skewer nut seems rather insignificant. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] drivetrain
You can't really go wrong w/ XT. When you say pancake, what's your largest cog? If it's only 30, you could run pretty much whatever you want. I have DA downtube 9 shifters and a DA rear derailer that work fine w/ a 30T low in back. Compact double up front. If a 32 or 34T cog, then yeah, the XT would be a good bet. On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:47 AM, velobandit veloban...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am about to install Dura Ace down tube shifters and wonder which rear derailleur works the best? Of course I plan to use pancake cassette. I assume XT with normal pull? Also is 9 speed is feasible with this specific set up? Thanks in advance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 3 speed shifter on Albatross bar?
Has anyone tried this? Any tips? Thanks! Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
